Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect
Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and it's Drink chas motherfucking podcast. Mason,
Speaker 1: he's a legendary Queen's rapper. He's like Green is your
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Speaker 1: me tell how probably am and you you got a
Speaker 1: night deal Jordan Jordan Animal at deal craon. So it
Speaker 1: described to people who who who's living under the rock,
Speaker 1: what exactly is do you you do? We a legend
Speaker 1: that we already send you from Queens were doing like
Speaker 1: the behind the scenes. It's not behind the scenes, um,
Speaker 1: but just described to people. You know what's going on
Speaker 1: in you're like the man. So I'm a professional BMX
Speaker 1: athletes ride bikes, jumping over everything, manuel and popping Willie's
Speaker 1: all those things, bro, and I took that from just
Speaker 1: a love and a hobby and turned into a career. Wow,
Speaker 1: I've been pro for fifteen years man, you start writing, Um,
Speaker 1: I started riding when I was about four years old,
Speaker 1: but I started taking BMX serious around like twelve years
Speaker 1: old and I turned pro eighteen. So how does the
Speaker 1: person in turn pro like from people that's sitting around
Speaker 1: riding a bike right now and um just having fun,
Speaker 1: how do they How does a person that's that's doing
Speaker 1: that say, you know what, I could make money off it?
Speaker 1: And I could I could be doing what nig was doing, right,
Speaker 1: So two different ways to go about it. Um, you
Speaker 1: can rideing like the traditional contests, compete and whatnot. Or
Speaker 1: you could just be doing your thing outside like video
Speaker 1: social media, social like huge rollings to it and um
Speaker 1: you'll find different companies or companies will find you haven't
Speaker 1: check out, you know, and if you're worthy, if it's right,
Speaker 1: the opportunity to makes sense, it's sign you up. Right?
Speaker 1: So then how does how does one not only get
Speaker 1: UM via max uh like staff, but then you got um,
Speaker 1: let's pump about all eight don't go to bask me help?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah the nine hole man? Yeah? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: how you are God for too? Now I keep my
Speaker 1: head with the vibs. So how do you how does it.
Speaker 1: How does a person um even like you know, because
Speaker 1: like I said, you said, you got Jordan Jordan's Uh
Speaker 1: you know, I remember Jordan's like first athlete he ever
Speaker 1: endorsed with Derek Jeter, right, so didn't he endorsed you? Like?
Speaker 1: How the elder is that I got my Jordas right now?
Speaker 1: Like you know what, how does that I got my
Speaker 1: gold Cup? Tomario to man, you know what's going on?
Speaker 1: I don't really see Wait a minute, I took it off.
Speaker 1: I had to give my life together. But that's real quick.
Speaker 1: That's that's the main way to to to generate revenue
Speaker 1: if you're like a bike rider, if you're a skater
Speaker 1: or server, like endorsement deals, right, endorsement deals, and then
Speaker 1: you create your own to create your own brand. Um,
Speaker 1: you compete in contests, especially nowadays man, with like social media,
Speaker 1: there's so many different ways to go about it. Like
Speaker 1: it's really like the wild wild Western sense if you
Speaker 1: can make it your own. This is what I've been
Speaker 1: doing my entire career. How did you get to call
Speaker 1: with Jordan's care What did they say? So? So listen,
Speaker 1: So when I turned pro right, Um, I turned from
Speaker 1: eighteen and I got signed to Dave Mirra. So for
Speaker 1: those of you who don't know who Dave Marry is,
Speaker 1: Dave Marry is like the Jordans of b he know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like he's the guy father. He's the
Speaker 1: biggest bmxed rout of all time. In my opinion, God
Speaker 1: rested Dell, you know what I mean, Like he's right
Speaker 1: but the soul and all that. So he signed me
Speaker 1: when I was eighteen, and I got signed to Nike
Speaker 1: a couple of months later. So like when I turned pro,
Speaker 1: was like in a very like kind of like President
Speaker 1: way right, it was like like, damn, we're signed to
Speaker 1: Mirraco Bikes and you signed to Nike. So I've been
Speaker 1: on Nanke for a very long time. I'm both recently
Speaker 1: I signed from UM I switched from Nike to Jordan Brand.
Speaker 1: It's been like about a year ago, so it's it's
Speaker 1: been It's been amazing to go cross category and a
Speaker 1: brand like that, you know, I mean, right, has has
Speaker 1: Do you feel that representation has changed from black and
Speaker 1: brown in this space because before, back in the days
Speaker 1: you look back, it wasn't there because you got so
Speaker 1: many kids from the hood. Now can be because looking
Speaker 1: at it like, Okay, I can do this now too, right,
Speaker 1: you feel me? Like even for real, like you know,
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that I'm affiliated with Parrele. But even
Speaker 1: back then, like he was, he was presenting like the skateboard,
Speaker 1: the BMX type of thing and people weren't ignoring him.
Speaker 1: Back now, that wasn't cool, But that's because I think
Speaker 1: there was a lack of Like I was a little skater,
Speaker 1: market was the only skater that that was Latinos that
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, he's doing it. There was only
Speaker 1: like one or two a handful, right see. But nowadays
Speaker 1: with like social media, now everyone has access to because
Speaker 1: we want skate parks everywhere, Like people can put their
Speaker 1: content out and they're not confined to having to wait
Speaker 1: for the big brand to come find you, right, I
Speaker 1: mean like now it's like, Okay, I'm gonna put my
Speaker 1: content out and I'm gonna make it mine and I
Speaker 1: can create my merch. But if I need to do now,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's It's a beautiful thing man to see.
Speaker 1: And then like not only that, I was just so
Speaker 1: proud because it's like coming from Queens, two of our
Speaker 1: biggest brands, that it's so um weighed on us and
Speaker 1: so heavy on us. It's Nike and then it's Moette
Speaker 1: like you a drug dealers, like you know, they've always
Speaker 1: had my wet And I looked and I was just,
Speaker 1: you know, I always see I follow you, obviously appreciate
Speaker 1: and I support you. I'm gonna see you a lot.
Speaker 1: But I'm sitting back and I'm like this, I said,
Speaker 1: this guy really is living the dream of a queen's kid.
Speaker 1: When you have you have a Nike slash Jordan deal
Speaker 1: uh and a Moat deal like, and you're you're doing
Speaker 1: what you actually love to do. I'm mad. I would
Speaker 1: be much man. I mean for you, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: still being driving you, still crazy ship with you. You
Speaker 1: still go to the city and you still like hit
Speaker 1: the park. I'm still do the tricks. But my thing is,
Speaker 1: I was sitting there like I'll be like I'll be thinking,
Speaker 1: like you're gonna get hurt. Like I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: so why do you still do that? Is that something
Speaker 1: you have to do to keep keep your skills shop?
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, Like I still love riding my bicycle
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like this is what
Speaker 1: got me here. Like I was out riding yesterday. I
Speaker 1: was in front of the FTX arena, like look at
Speaker 1: my right now. Oh god blood, I was out there
Speaker 1: getting busy yesterday. So wherever I'm at, like my bike
Speaker 1: is usually with me. What's it to your point? Right,
Speaker 1: like when you said like the whole nikee thing and
Speaker 1: like the my wet thing. I remember like being a
Speaker 1: kid in the hood, like growing up in Laurelton, like
Speaker 1: pull them to the stoop and like the older heads
Speaker 1: was out there following my wet chilling fresh like fresh
Speaker 1: nankee fit on, you know what I mean. So I'm
Speaker 1: just following tradition in the sense you feel me like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's crazy, what is so much of a
Speaker 1: queeze thing? I felt like that was a part of
Speaker 1: the outfit. Like yeah, I feel like you know, I
Speaker 1: can say that now because because Jake doing business with
Speaker 1: web Scott, you know what I mean. But yeah, like
Speaker 1: what was really like it's really like even to now,
Speaker 1: Like yesterday, I was drinking my wet right missively and
Speaker 1: it really like I promise you I hate this time.
Speaker 1: I got alcoholic, but it takes like regular cool aid,
Speaker 1: you know, like you're not used to it. I was
Speaker 1: so used to it and it's like it's going right
Speaker 1: back to drinking cool it. But how is that? Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like like it's crazy, right,
Speaker 1: So I think it was junior This year I went
Speaker 1: out to Paris and fashion. Yeah, I was out there
Speaker 1: doing that and my way invited me to the Chateau
Speaker 1: out and that was the vibe because they brought me
Speaker 1: to the sellers. But you have to see the process
Speaker 1: of how they bottle, how they store, how they aged them,
Speaker 1: put them a web, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: then he had this amazing like chateau was like ten bedrooms,
Speaker 1: marble everywhere and chandeliers like wow. So they had this
Speaker 1: entire experience which is so crazy man. So it's again
Speaker 1: to think about it like being a kid riding around
Speaker 1: my hood watching like the older cast and the hustlers
Speaker 1: like top of my wed or being a club whatever
Speaker 1: the case is. Get to work with a brand like that.
Speaker 1: And now France like actually bombing with with that Brandon building.
Speaker 1: It's in a cluble opportunity, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And your passion got to there, you didn't have to
Speaker 1: do something else to It's crazy. Yes, come on, come down, down.
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, come on, couple boy. I hate that.
Speaker 1: I hate to immediately ask my phone somebody phone man,
Speaker 1: hate to immediately ask both of y'all this question. What's up?
Speaker 1: But it's a hot topic right now, and people are
Speaker 1: saying that two of our gods in hip hop, Oh,
Speaker 1: come on now, are not relevant. I told her, I
Speaker 1: think the word relevance is being used the wrong way
Speaker 1: to be. I can answer that very easily, but I
Speaker 1: want to. I want to. I want to start with you.
Speaker 1: But you walked in. They're saying that, I don't know how.
Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of understood what Booty was trying
Speaker 1: to say. You know, you already know. It's not that
Speaker 1: you can't. The word jay Z and relevance is gonna
Speaker 1: always be, you know, to me hand in hand. So
Speaker 1: he's definitely relevant because what he does with the culture
Speaker 1: when he constant moves, but for me not definitely not
Speaker 1: He's doing his non stop too, just exactly, so both
Speaker 1: of them definitely relevant to me right now. You come on,
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, we're sitting here drinking space, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I feel like Dream Chance is one
Speaker 1: of the biggest shows in the world right now. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So we're here doing that here
Speaker 1: and then nazis queens man, so like, I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: you're dropping an album, dropping music, like how could we
Speaker 1: how can we sit here and say it's not I'll
Speaker 1: answer the question like this, right in different people's worlds,
Speaker 1: relevance like and like, listen, right now, I can go
Speaker 1: to a Jamaican concert right and there might be thirty
Speaker 1: thousand people saying that Norma's not relevant, right because I'm
Speaker 1: not saying blood Clode exactly. You know, I don't not
Speaker 1: to make it back. I don't know where you love
Speaker 1: the yard, you know what I'm saying. But what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say is they would say, if I was
Speaker 1: to drop my old music, let's say that's not relevant
Speaker 1: right now, right, So they're they're right, they're right, right.
Speaker 1: So but then in my world, maybe this reggae artist
Speaker 1: is old school regular artists that it's still relevant and
Speaker 1: therefore it's not what are you still listening to my
Speaker 1: my school hookie parties. It's not what I'm listening to now.
Speaker 1: So the word relevant is only relevant to people who
Speaker 1: find relevant relevant. It's very specifically, it's very specific, Like
Speaker 1: some people were making that conversation about music specific Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can have that specific to generational, like youth versus this.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But relevance, come on, it's
Speaker 1: kind of it's we gotta redefine it right now. Like
Speaker 1: right now, some people say Britney Spears not relevant. I say,
Speaker 1: if Britty Spears come on, drink chance, we're gonna kill that. Man.
Speaker 1: You know what's just for me? I think it's about
Speaker 1: explosion man, Like everyone, I feel like nowadays because you
Speaker 1: can follow who you want to follow on social media,
Speaker 1: like your world's find that too white important? You know,
Speaker 1: I you know, what you find important doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: something else is not important. But I think it's all
Speaker 1: based down to and you know, Boosty is my friend.
Speaker 1: But it's like if he was to find the young
Speaker 1: kid and queens right now, just a random young kid
Speaker 1: and queens, and you will say it's Boosey relevant. I
Speaker 1: bet you that kid and queens would not say he
Speaker 1: is because that kid in Queens listen to two whoever
Speaker 1: whoever is hot at that moment, and maybe he might
Speaker 1: agree with you. And you know, I will never come
Speaker 1: at Boosey. But um, and that's just really what it is, man,
Speaker 1: it's just like you know, I think it was here
Speaker 1: is a booty made that statement, and he was like
Speaker 1: where he is. His circuit that he's doing as well,
Speaker 1: the clubs that he's performing a very specific so it's yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like, you're not relevant there. I would never be
Speaker 1: relevant there. Honestly, my style of music, you know, he
Speaker 1: prob whatever it is wouldn't play necessarily in those venues anywhere.
Speaker 1: So of course you would believe I'm not relevant because
Speaker 1: we don't play necessarily at the same venue as well.
Speaker 1: What well, to me, they're both relevant to me. I
Speaker 1: still look up to them what they did as far
Speaker 1: as business, as far as music, as far as artistry,
Speaker 1: I always look up to them. But I will never
Speaker 1: deny the fact that m Boost it's his own version
Speaker 1: of jay Z. I will never defined the fact that
Speaker 1: it's only version of No talked about this. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: relevant over talking about but the fact was that everything
Speaker 1: is very finitely he says, everything is like very detailed
Speaker 1: to what you're watching when you're looking. Truth funny, relevancy
Speaker 1: is irrelevant to me because the fact that you could
Speaker 1: be I know artists that like m when the sound
Speaker 1: club ship was popping, and there was artists that had
Speaker 1: millions and millions of followers. They're doing festivals. You asked
Speaker 1: the average like head like hip hop. He let's say
Speaker 1: you asked me. You know this, are never heard of him.
Speaker 1: But this artist here is making millions of dollars. They've
Speaker 1: got million the followers they're doing, they're doing festivals. That's
Speaker 1: in my world. K will never be irrelevant. The world
Speaker 1: that I live in, big will never be irrelevant. But
Speaker 1: to my son, my some bobby doesn't even know who
Speaker 1: Big Dad. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But that's
Speaker 1: actually even more importantly my wife, your tongue, you'll never
Speaker 1: be relevant, like to our like I'm saying, it's all
Speaker 1: that is irrelevant. What I'm saying because to somebody you relevant.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, yeah, man, there's a lot of good watches
Speaker 1: out here. Man. I was just looking around Judge like
Speaker 1: you know, I judge your years years, you know, it's
Speaker 1: crazy around yesterday and I was like yo, and he
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, now you know, now you want to
Speaker 1: wear Richard Mills. It's about ten years ago. I was
Speaker 1: laughing at for a round like this bull. I had
Speaker 1: no idea what I was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: yeah that guys, what's going on? Trying to make this
Speaker 1: to pop up? Let's go, what do you call u?
Speaker 1: The moon? That you called it? The moon? Come on down?
Speaker 1: You already know man, he's going down. We got motherfucking
Speaker 1: the Holy jay Awsmith build how about you, champion? As
Speaker 1: soon as you got to god Ward when um, but
Speaker 1: I gotta asked about this famous place. It's this famous place.
Speaker 1: Everyone thought you was high. You know what flames over
Speaker 1: exactly what you I gotta ask when they did that?
Speaker 1: Though he was locked in, He locked in for the moment.
Speaker 1: The ambitions was there, the passion was there. You wanted it.
Speaker 1: But so he's saying that means you look sorry, no,
Speaker 1: no Flames, don't Hennessy anybody. We don't weak. They had
Speaker 1: nothing to do with Hennessy all week. Nothing to do
Speaker 1: with Hennessy all week. Okay, to explain this play, tell us,
Speaker 1: so what happened was normally in this situation for us,
Speaker 1: the game is close, you get an offensive rebound, we
Speaker 1: get it. That means we get a second chance. We're
Speaker 1: gonna call time out, get the ways organized, get the
Speaker 1: ball back in Brian's so in this case, we got
Speaker 1: the ball, I brought it back. I'm waiting for somebody to,
Speaker 1: you know, called time out of something. So nobody did nothing.
Speaker 1: So I'm all right, bet we're in a good situation.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring the ball back out. It turns out
Speaker 1: what he was, it was in a good situation. But
Speaker 1: it is what it is. When mean, I take that,
Speaker 1: I'll take that far off if that's what it was
Speaker 1: what caused us to lose the series? All right? I
Speaker 1: mean they only had Katie, Steph and Clay and so
Speaker 1: do you miss playing ball? Yeah, of course that's my
Speaker 1: That's my first love. Yeah, that's my passion for sure.
Speaker 1: Coming from from coming from New York, coming from Jersey,
Speaker 1: that upbringing and get into the Big League and then
Speaker 1: moving on to college after your career, how important was
Speaker 1: that to you? Uh? I mean honestly, I thought about
Speaker 1: it a lot like my early years coming into the league,
Speaker 1: Like I was like, I'm always gonna go back and
Speaker 1: get my get my degree and whatever whatever. But you know,
Speaker 1: I mean after year six seven, went straight from high school,
Speaker 1: straight from school, so I after for me, after like
Speaker 1: years six seven, eight nine, and I'm like that ship did,
Speaker 1: like I ain't gone back to school. I'm done, Like
Speaker 1: I mean, my mom even my mom was like, boy,
Speaker 1: you ain't. Don't even worry about I ain't tripping on that.
Speaker 1: So then after like you know, after my career and
Speaker 1: after the ship started getting slow as a hooper, I
Speaker 1: was trying to figure it out. Man, Rayal and hooked
Speaker 1: me up. It was some real knowledge of self and
Speaker 1: being more self aware, and uh, after that was just over.
Speaker 1: I just didn't figure somelf was so dope. Man, that
Speaker 1: was that was so cool because so many, like our youngsters,
Speaker 1: they think that that is the end all be all,
Speaker 1: like you get you, you become a rapper, or you
Speaker 1: become getting the NBA, and then so then our goals
Speaker 1: are so limited. Like like what you did was so honorable,
Speaker 1: Like I always wish I had your number to just
Speaker 1: call you and say how proud to be as a
Speaker 1: community because you made it to where you made it,
Speaker 1: you had you your rings already and then you went
Speaker 1: to college. That was like that was like just like
Speaker 1: so honorable, like like let's just make some noise that again,
Speaker 1: that it's never too late, and like the biggest thing
Speaker 1: for me, like growing up, I never like I was
Speaker 1: I was always an athlete, like it was all to
Speaker 1: me making it out. Was always basketball, football, baseball or
Speaker 1: something like that. So that was my that was my outlets.
Speaker 1: So you know when I catered to that. So I
Speaker 1: cated to that so much I didn't learn how to
Speaker 1: do you know, everything else. Like people people like get
Speaker 1: on me about it, but I've never changed the tire
Speaker 1: on the car. I've had money since I was seventeen,
Speaker 1: so my time I got my first Yeah, like I ain't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I really like I called my mother
Speaker 1: when it's time to like, uh, washing my clothes, I
Speaker 1: gotta call my mom's Like I ain't call I have,
Speaker 1: So I paid somebody since I was seventeen eighteen wash
Speaker 1: my shop. I don't know do this so like little
Speaker 1: ship like that, like trade, like trades, and when they
Speaker 1: took trades out of the community, and like we really
Speaker 1: I feel like, especially the black and brown communities where
Speaker 1: we really like that because we can't. We stopped working
Speaker 1: with our hands, but stopped being a carpenters, start, stopped
Speaker 1: being construction workers, stopped being so many things that just
Speaker 1: it's a necessive through life opposed just clicking and making
Speaker 1: it seem like anything is easy. Just use them all
Speaker 1: the time. It's a confidence builder from person for sure.
Speaker 1: For sure. What's your favorite team you ever played? For?
Speaker 1: Good question? Favorite team, there's no there's no pressure, there's
Speaker 1: no pressure n C double as man, I need to
Speaker 1: break that barrier actually though. But yeah, favorite team though,
Speaker 1: My favorite team was my Cleveland team, the Chip team.
Speaker 1: Like we was we were sticking Steves. But just on
Speaker 1: that team as well, right yeah, me, Kai, bran Ken Channing,
Speaker 1: r J Sean. I mean we had a crew. It
Speaker 1: was Tristan. We missed that team. Man. Just the bond
Speaker 1: we had as a team was crazy. Like I've never
Speaker 1: I've been on good teams, but I've been on some
Speaker 1: teams that we quote unquote tighten it. But like every
Speaker 1: time we moved around, it was always thirteen, fourteen, fifteen people.
Speaker 1: And you know, for for us, that was saying something
Speaker 1: because you always catch change people click up, you see
Speaker 1: two people here, you see three day, you see one day,
Speaker 1: see two day. But for us, when you've seen one
Speaker 1: of us nine times out of ten, fourteen other people
Speaker 1: about to hit that corner, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that was that was that was powerful for me,
Speaker 1: but my obviously playing in Jersey was like are playing
Speaker 1: and sitting in New York and the garden was crazy.
Speaker 1: Being from Jersey. My pops was the Knicks fan. I
Speaker 1: grew up a Bulls fan. But when I had an
Speaker 1: opportunity to come go to New York, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I gotta do that. Absolutely, that's all. That's all.
Speaker 1: You already done your Jersey spiel right now. I told
Speaker 1: him I'm take when we were eating lunch. I had to.
Speaker 1: But because tell them, tell them all in as a
Speaker 1: Jersey we always get the love as far as hip
Speaker 1: hop and life in New York and West Coast, and
Speaker 1: the vibe is always alive in Jersey. Always feel like
Speaker 1: we gotta right for it. You know, we don't get
Speaker 1: the problems as far as so many people have said.
Speaker 1: But as far as anybody that I see, you know
Speaker 1: how to introduced myself and to make it right. But
Speaker 1: but as far as um an athlete coming out of
Speaker 1: high school and touching back to hip hop, what was
Speaker 1: your music? What was your your influence your soundtrack of
Speaker 1: how did you get going to who you are and
Speaker 1: what you are? Man, I'll never forget it. My my
Speaker 1: coming out party was my sophomore year. I was playing
Speaker 1: football at the time, and they put what years is
Speaker 1: just this is two thousand two to two thousand one.
Speaker 1: Um that flash with my flash anthem and all that coming, bro,
Speaker 1: when you came through the tunnel in the high school,
Speaker 1: like that was crazy. We thought it was like we
Speaker 1: thought it was the bulls when you heard that, that's
Speaker 1: what to us. I mean, it was like it was
Speaker 1: you thought we was gonna have a whole fight. And
Speaker 1: it was obviously just a basketball game or just a
Speaker 1: football game, but like coming up, it was for me,
Speaker 1: it was always ax. That was like the first CD
Speaker 1: I ever bought. The first team was on the same
Speaker 1: same Yeah, we was. So we had in Jersey South
Speaker 1: or Central Jersey I call it. We got different like
Speaker 1: people from different sides of the tracks or whatever. So
Speaker 1: we had this crew called the Red Jaft Crew. They
Speaker 1: they thought they was like the Rock And we had
Speaker 1: another crew that was like Deep Block, and I mean
Speaker 1: we had some young named after young I mean it
Speaker 1: was young kids wild en up. But that's how it was.
Speaker 1: And like we was really I mean, we really loved
Speaker 1: music more than anything. Nas obviously noy man, y'all was
Speaker 1: like guys to us. So when I see y'all, I
Speaker 1: mean I paid how much to y'all because yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: were coming up. That's what that's what's amazing. That was
Speaker 1: the motivation. But what was the worst team you ever
Speaker 1: played for? Oh Man, New Orleans. My first ship the
Speaker 1: Warriors New Orleans. We want eighteen games year. We got
Speaker 1: the Hornets at the time. Yeah, the next morning we
Speaker 1: drafted CP. Next first year, it was two thousand four,
Speaker 1: we played out. We want eighteen games. We get a
Speaker 1: lot of repick. Hurricane Katriina happened. We moved to Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: We draft CP, CP come ball out Rookie of the
Speaker 1: Year next year. After that, my third year coming in,
Speaker 1: I get traded to Denver. That I got trade to
Speaker 1: Chicago for a couple of coffee. Then they sent me
Speaker 1: to Denver. When the Denver and Mellow started rocking out
Speaker 1: that first year, that's when I got We got into
Speaker 1: that fight in New York. Yeah, we traded for a court.
Speaker 1: Yeah when Mellow everywhere. Yeah, how do you feel playing
Speaker 1: with a or I love that. I mean, you played
Speaker 1: with a lot of people. There's a lot of experience
Speaker 1: that you have on your boat outside of your own talent,
Speaker 1: But how is that going to be your favorite? How
Speaker 1: that chemistry var gotta be your favorite to play with? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jake kids Kid, Yeah, because like, bro, it's different man.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean there's no district to brown obviously.
Speaker 1: Be like jak was a point guard. You know I'm saying,
Speaker 1: j K jay Kid literally trying to get twenty assists.
Speaker 1: He ain't trying to score nothing. For me. He changed
Speaker 1: my mentality immediately because he told me like, listen, if
Speaker 1: you in better shape than everybody else on this team,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you at least six to eight points
Speaker 1: a game. And I was just like, he was like, listen,
Speaker 1: you know it may not seem like a lot, but
Speaker 1: you get six or eight points just from me a
Speaker 1: game that's not on top of two three, your own hustle.
Speaker 1: We're gonna run some plays for you. You're gonna get
Speaker 1: to the free throw line. But I was just like,
Speaker 1: he like really broke the game down for me, and
Speaker 1: like that's what I was just like, Okay, oh, this
Speaker 1: is how I this is how I go about running
Speaker 1: a second unit or whatever else. And know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: he really taught me the game. So for me, he
Speaker 1: was probably one of my favorites. And if you could
Speaker 1: do anything over what were you doing or nothing? If
Speaker 1: I could do anything, oh honestly, if I could do
Speaker 1: anything over that fight in New York. Yeah, me and
Speaker 1: Mello got into that fight in New York with Nate
Speaker 1: and um I don't even know du name no more.
Speaker 1: Um she got rip no for real. That's crazy. But
Speaker 1: I feel like because at that time, me and Me
Speaker 1: and Mellow was one of the highest two scoring duos
Speaker 1: in in the UH the team was playing. It was
Speaker 1: in the Western so Mello was averaging like thirty five
Speaker 1: or something like that. He's going to higher scoring. He didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't make the playoffs. Isaiah Thomas. He just got
Speaker 1: mad because we was running the score up and he
Speaker 1: ain't like George Carls. So they had a whole inner time,
Speaker 1: even we as players, got caught up into some bullshit
Speaker 1: that we had nothing to do with. So but that's
Speaker 1: just the way this should go because me and like
Speaker 1: I said, me and Mellows is one of the highest
Speaker 1: scoring duos in the in the in the league at
Speaker 1: the time, So for me, that's perfect time for me.
Speaker 1: Contract year is about to come up. We talk a
Speaker 1: longevity all right, we're paying duels up like that. That
Speaker 1: plays a major part we trade for AI. I go
Speaker 1: to the bench like ship play out different. But I
Speaker 1: mean I don't look back at it regret. It's just
Speaker 1: like if I could take something away, then now I
Speaker 1: would take that away because for one, that ship costs
Speaker 1: me a ship ton of money on on immediately. But
Speaker 1: just my whole image went down after that, like people
Speaker 1: just started looking at me like, oh, he's a real
Speaker 1: thug like that I'm saying, you know, I mean, he's
Speaker 1: sticking for your team. Man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When it's nowadays it's cool for stick up for your teammate,
Speaker 1: but then it's like, okay, you're doing too much or
Speaker 1: just then a thirds like all I bet ah, that's
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Um. One of the things that I remember
Speaker 1: the most about you after career wise, I mean, not
Speaker 1: to take nothing away from what you've done, is when
Speaker 1: you made a comment about spending thirty grand in the
Speaker 1: street club instead of helping somebody with with a scholarship
Speaker 1: or doing something to the community. I like, I like
Speaker 1: to teuch based on community outside of athletes, and you know,
Speaker 1: in your and your goals. So how was that important
Speaker 1: for you to get to that point where you when
Speaker 1: you said, you know what I could do better, and
Speaker 1: I'm available so I can do better. I mean that's
Speaker 1: for me because I've been on a different program, right,
Speaker 1: I've since walking out of high school. Like I was
Speaker 1: just gifted uh a fame, money, whatever. But the community
Speaker 1: support you anyway, right, the community supported me anyway. But
Speaker 1: for me, it wasn't even. It wasn't about the community.
Speaker 1: It was more I was so focused on me and
Speaker 1: what I had going on. It wasn't even. I wasn't
Speaker 1: because it was all happening so fast. Yeah. That, and
Speaker 1: it wasn't like yeah and that. It wasn't like we
Speaker 1: had people. I didn't have people to like to look
Speaker 1: up to to be like, okay, bet, this is how
Speaker 1: you go about doing that, being a professional doing it.
Speaker 1: We are in a certain type of way. We was
Speaker 1: in a funky era between throwback jerseys, being revaluous towards
Speaker 1: the league and ship like that. So it was like
Speaker 1: my idols was bad boys in the sense you know
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Speaker 1: A I she zebo like those type dudes like because
Speaker 1: to me, like I'm not going to suck a coat,
Speaker 1: what I got to say just to make a book?
Speaker 1: So if you to me, those are always the realist ones.
Speaker 1: So I always attracted to people who kept it real,
Speaker 1: like we ain't gonna bullshit, You ain't gonna I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and say X, Y and
Speaker 1: Z just for product of your environment. You say, do
Speaker 1: you say missing college was it was a bad thing?
Speaker 1: Or like didn't help you mature growing into that part
Speaker 1: of the culture with being rebellious. I would say yes
Speaker 1: and no, but it's all it's all dependent on the
Speaker 1: right situation, you know what I'm saying, Like everybody don't
Speaker 1: have the same experiences when they go to college. Some
Speaker 1: people just even get the more baby than cater to
Speaker 1: even even more, you know what I'm saying. So honestly,
Speaker 1: if you're depending on the situation, I think it every
Speaker 1: it emoted you any kind of way. But for me,
Speaker 1: I'm glad I did what I did because I got
Speaker 1: to learn then a sack like I got to I
Speaker 1: got to do what I wanted to do anyway faster,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like my boys went to school,
Speaker 1: they went to school, they went to school three or
Speaker 1: four years, play in the league to three years, three
Speaker 1: or four years, and then't out the league. Like bro,
Speaker 1: I've been in the league this whole time and played
Speaker 1: another five six like you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: I ain't I ain't had to go to no bullshits
Speaker 1: some coach talking about all because you ain't make the
Speaker 1: running around the track in a certain amount of time,
Speaker 1: or you're not gonna play this or that or playing
Speaker 1: some weird games and ship like I ain't got time
Speaker 1: for that. Like cold college coaches from one they got
Speaker 1: too much power, you know what I'm saying. And I
Speaker 1: feel like for me, Yeah for sure, bro, because they
Speaker 1: control every thing. Like now that you like, these dudes
Speaker 1: starting to get bread, now it's gonna be a little
Speaker 1: different because they're throwing like you got some weight, right,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you gotta think like if
Speaker 1: I'm a quarterback at Alabama and I'm getting three mill
Speaker 1: off of some n I l ship, like, I gotta
Speaker 1: brown some more say around this ship NIX saveming like,
Speaker 1: don't give me no disrespect. You all who you are,
Speaker 1: but you're not just about to be talking to me
Speaker 1: and treat me any kind of way. Now, you know
Speaker 1: the gatekeeper to get to that, right, Like yeah, Like
Speaker 1: they really look like they're the gatekeeper. They treat they
Speaker 1: treat players like that. I've been in Louisville and I've
Speaker 1: seen Patinot talk to some of these people crazy, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I like, and he's a great coach,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but I've seen these people talk
Speaker 1: to people crazy and he and he navigates his way
Speaker 1: out of right back. Yeah, I mean, but anyway outside
Speaker 1: of that. So, so being that you're now, would you
Speaker 1: go back to like the Big three, would you still
Speaker 1: stay active in the sports sense? Or how do you
Speaker 1: feel about your own you know being for me personally,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't play in the Big three the same thing,
Speaker 1: just speak just because it's not the same as what
Speaker 1: I'm accustomed to, you know what I'm saying, Like it's
Speaker 1: not like I'm a five on five dude, Like I'm
Speaker 1: I'm full caught, like I'm a who like three yar
Speaker 1: three and all that's like a workout for me that
Speaker 1: we do that to like staying in shape and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So for me, it's just not as appealing
Speaker 1: as what I'm accustomed for my other than my last year,
Speaker 1: what five years, four years I've been in I played
Speaker 1: in the finals, well out of six out of five
Speaker 1: years of my last year of my career was in
Speaker 1: the finals. What I'm saying like for real, but you
Speaker 1: know what, But it's funny because and I've seen Draymond
Speaker 1: say this the other day on one of his shows,
Speaker 1: like it's hard to like people is getting after him
Speaker 1: because it was like hard for him to get up
Speaker 1: for certain games like bro, are you four and sixties
Speaker 1: something and you just came from five straight finals? Just
Speaker 1: hard to get up for the game. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Let alone, you're already getting paid X, Y
Speaker 1: and Z, Like that's just hard to keep that thirst
Speaker 1: and whatever. But yeah, man, like that, I let a
Speaker 1: game and I let her play. But for me, I
Speaker 1: get more joy out of it just going to the
Speaker 1: me and going to the wreck and go, yeah, your
Speaker 1: own preference, yeah, pick up like because then at that
Speaker 1: point I could be me like I A. I'm not
Speaker 1: going into the situation where like, listen, man, you shoot
Speaker 1: corner threes like you men that he gets thirty, give
Speaker 1: him the ball, like, listen, bro, I ain't. I ain't
Speaker 1: here for that. I'm thirties seven years old. Brother, who
Speaker 1: I would go, who? So this is this and everybody
Speaker 1: in the NBA burns? But but is it true or
Speaker 1: is it not? I'm sure not everybody. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's like anything, everybody will do it because I like
Speaker 1: some people, it's just not good for some people, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like some people like alcohol, just
Speaker 1: not good for them. I mean some people just can't
Speaker 1: do either one. I mean so, but a lot of
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of us do for sure, because
Speaker 1: a lot of for one, a lot of us come
Speaker 1: from the from that community. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: People don't realize, like when you sit there and say, oh,
Speaker 1: a lot of the NBA players smoke, Yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of us black too, Like a lot of us like
Speaker 1: we come from. I mean, that's how that's our culture,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I don't make us
Speaker 1: wrong or and different, but that's just what we that's
Speaker 1: what we do. You know what I'm saying. Right in
Speaker 1: the bubble, which every which is crazy to me because
Speaker 1: they said all the numbers were so amazing. It's not
Speaker 1: the third alright, cool, But y'all was letting everybody smoke,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because y'all made it so
Speaker 1: crazy for us when we was like we're not during
Speaker 1: my career, like it was the worst thing of him
Speaker 1: if you would have been up with spending five games
Speaker 1: for that ship, you know what I'm saying, Like that's
Speaker 1: for the moral perception or just being professional, like smoking
Speaker 1: weed and just being like you don't know, I got
Speaker 1: I got I felt Yeah. So I was in the
Speaker 1: program for a while and I kept like I was
Speaker 1: failing drug tests like I wasn't. Like people don't realize
Speaker 1: like when you got talent first of all, Like for me,
Speaker 1: it's hard for me because I understand the god gift
Speaker 1: given ability that I got from where you're from from
Speaker 1: well not only from where I'm from, just in my
Speaker 1: being like mom, like I'm gonna I'm very gifted, Like
Speaker 1: I can. I hate to say it, but I can
Speaker 1: go out here and play damn that scratched golf, go
Speaker 1: play ball and go bold, damn that row three hunted,
Speaker 1: and then like I'm very gifted at this after the
Speaker 1: I can't do none of that people like yeah. So
Speaker 1: like when people like try to underplay, like make it
Speaker 1: seem like you don't know your talent. No, I know
Speaker 1: my talent. You you don't. You're scared of my talent
Speaker 1: because you keep limiting me and all at fascest of
Speaker 1: what I can do. You're just trying to keep throwing
Speaker 1: me in this box. Okay, this, No, I can do this, this, this, this,
Speaker 1: and that I'm six six six, one of the most athletic.
Speaker 1: I can handle the ball I can shoot now. You
Speaker 1: can't sit here and tell me as a basketball player archetype.
Speaker 1: You want to make somebody like my like me. So
Speaker 1: when you people other people just try to limit like,
Speaker 1: oh nah, you didn't play two your abilities, you didn't
Speaker 1: do this, you didn't do that, you did that. Listen.
Speaker 1: I did everything I could do within the restrictions that
Speaker 1: they gave me. You want the six man, Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: absolutely not. That's that's that itself is also an achievement
Speaker 1: for being in the league and the lead players, and
Speaker 1: there's only a lot of players in a certain amount
Speaker 1: of team coming off the bench playing that role, being
Speaker 1: the leader, being a mentor and a student and winning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I suspended a lot of games to people don't
Speaker 1: even realize that ship like like and it's funked up
Speaker 1: because I don't. I don't like to glorify as like
Speaker 1: something I'm proud of, but it's like I was standing
Speaker 1: up for what I believed in. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and let you just treat
Speaker 1: me any kind of way, whether it be coach, player, GM.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk. We're gonna talk like you do you
Speaker 1: like it or you don't, but you're gonna respect the
Speaker 1: fact that I had to say what I had to say.
Speaker 1: You're not just gonna get it off on me like that. Well,
Speaker 1: you one of those people that the teams turned to
Speaker 1: or the coaches turned to. Just speaking on that on
Speaker 1: a on on that statement. But were you just out spoken?
Speaker 1: I was. I was more outspoken. We had other dudes
Speaker 1: in there for that, because when it got to me
Speaker 1: it wasn't really that good. Too late, Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: too late, Like it wasn't as healthy for me because
Speaker 1: I didn't really know how to communicate my frustrations at times.
Speaker 1: You look, That's what I'm saying. So missing the college
Speaker 1: part and going straight from high school as a young man,
Speaker 1: that the development it articulate, you feel that that space
Speaker 1: was Now I don't even see. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: that space because again I've seen multiple dudes to go
Speaker 1: to college and still haven't developed that. It's just I
Speaker 1: think it's more development as I think we as the
Speaker 1: culture got to do a better job development as in
Speaker 1: one another. You know what I'm saying to me as
Speaker 1: a as a vet, my job is to make sure
Speaker 1: whoever following me don't do none of the dumb ship
Speaker 1: that I did and put them in a better position
Speaker 1: than what I had. You know what I'm saying, That's
Speaker 1: just what a vent is supposed to do. Now, if
Speaker 1: I can't do that, If I didn't do that, then
Speaker 1: I then I failed. That's just no efens appoints about it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So when I see my
Speaker 1: young boys out here going to get a bag, I'm
Speaker 1: proud because I know I did something right. I put
Speaker 1: him in the right direction. He like, I bet you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Whenever he see me, he knows
Speaker 1: for show like yo, good looking bro. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I can't never. I don't never want to
Speaker 1: be in a position when somebody wanted my one of
Speaker 1: my man see me and they you know, worst position,
Speaker 1: like damn with this name. No, I ain't never gonna
Speaker 1: be the case. You see the latest documentary I've seen
Speaker 1: bits and pieces of I ain't really you ever thought
Speaker 1: about culture. I'm more I'm more player like, player development.
Speaker 1: I'm not like yeah like I like. I like helping
Speaker 1: players get better at their craft, like all of that
Speaker 1: exces and nose and because once you get into that
Speaker 1: then it's like it's so much political pieces to the game.
Speaker 1: You gotta Okay, this person got to play thirty five minutes.
Speaker 1: This person got to play this time because you gotta
Speaker 1: like it, Na, because you don't like because it's it's
Speaker 1: not coming from the coach. It's not giving you a
Speaker 1: strategic political part of it. You know, it's somebody from
Speaker 1: the from the upper box, like, yo, no, he gotta
Speaker 1: play now he got It's not just the game, yeah
Speaker 1: that early in the career or like later in the career. No,
Speaker 1: that's just coaching and coaching period. Like that's just when
Speaker 1: I was with the Knicks, right, this is after me
Speaker 1: winning sixth man and they wanted me to like because
Speaker 1: I would always work out by myself and then my trainer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: even when when I was with the next I would
Speaker 1: always work out by myself because for so long, even
Speaker 1: when I was when I was in New Orleans, when
Speaker 1: I was in Denver, when I got to the next,
Speaker 1: all the coaches were always like, why is he doing this?
Speaker 1: So why is he doing that? And why is he
Speaker 1: doing Like for me, I'll practice the shots that I
Speaker 1: shoot so for the yeah, and for me, like once
Speaker 1: you start like really believing that ship and I see
Speaker 1: you believing, I'm starting to distance myself because now it's
Speaker 1: like you're not even giving me the opportunity of benefit
Speaker 1: of the job to be me. So you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm just nipping in the butt. So I ain't gotta
Speaker 1: worry about trusting you because I already don't, so I
Speaker 1: ain't gotta I mean, so I just alleviate myself from
Speaker 1: the whole situation. But when I was when I was there,
Speaker 1: like it was like, again, why are he doing this?
Speaker 1: Why is he doing that? Why is he doing this?
Speaker 1: So I was like, alright, bet I wanted six man, like, oh,
Speaker 1: now you gotta be around more for again, like young
Speaker 1: guys this and that, we want to see your face
Speaker 1: more or whatever, so get back into it. And it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: why are you doing this? And when you like, bro,
Speaker 1: like what you want me here for? Like you asked
Speaker 1: me to do. You asked me to come around. So
Speaker 1: when I come around you now you want to ask
Speaker 1: me what I'm doing? Why am I doing certain things?
Speaker 1: Like don't ask me that. When you see the finished product,
Speaker 1: when we step on the floor, you see eighteen eighteen
Speaker 1: five and four, don't worry about how how it got there.
Speaker 1: Just know that it's gonna get there. So is it
Speaker 1: fair to say that you did all alone? Did you
Speaker 1: have any vets? Um and a mari Um and a
Speaker 1: Marie start on my episode, Nor brought up that having
Speaker 1: vets is important in a young man's career. So how
Speaker 1: do you feel, like, who is your vets? And get
Speaker 1: you to that point that you just said doing the
Speaker 1: eight teen five and four that's why I j kid
Speaker 1: Jake Kid when I had j kids. She when I
Speaker 1: got to New York and that was like my first No,
Speaker 1: that's like that's big bro, Yeah, like for real? She uh,
Speaker 1: Jay Kid, Kurt Thomas, Marcus can be um Marcus came
Speaker 1: from from Syracuse. Yeah not Syracuse. Um you Massum. We
Speaker 1: had my yeah, Andre Miller and Denver, I had Chauncey
Speaker 1: for a minute. But like at that time, certain for me,
Speaker 1: it was hard because and at times I said I
Speaker 1: had bad vets. It's not that I had bad vests.
Speaker 1: I had vests who didn't know how to translate what
Speaker 1: I was going through to get to me, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like since sometimes it was telling me
Speaker 1: ship and it was just like they couldn't make it relatable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they couldn't really make it relatable. They were so old school,
Speaker 1: and I mean like when I'm coming I'm seventeen, eighteen
Speaker 1: years old getting drafted, the my vents is thirty six,
Speaker 1: thirty seven years old, like they got kids damn there.
Speaker 1: So it was like it was it was drastic for me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I didn't and then
Speaker 1: I wasn't playing like I had a viroun scout who
Speaker 1: coming from pat Riley coaching type style, like who already
Speaker 1: don't like young players all that ship, and so I
Speaker 1: didn't play like the first half of the season of
Speaker 1: my rookie years. So I'm like shot shut with school,
Speaker 1: Like no, I know, I definitely had to the point
Speaker 1: for the people to say, you ain't just jump because
Speaker 1: you had an opportunity, like you actually said, I could
Speaker 1: have gone school. I could have made for sure because
Speaker 1: my team was if I don't went to school, they
Speaker 1: won national championship, Carolina won the chip already, so they
Speaker 1: just add me, we just blow even more about So
Speaker 1: it wouldn't even That's the way I look at it anyway.
Speaker 1: But I mean, is wild man, I'm happy to I'm
Speaker 1: just happy to be here, man, damn absolutely, man, So,
Speaker 1: um did you see with Lebron's uh said this morning
Speaker 1: about Kyrie? Um was this morning? Yes, Um, I think
Speaker 1: that makes Lebron one of like most prolific athletes, right
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna tell you this, Muhammad Ali was cautious
Speaker 1: of what he was saying, and he he actually he
Speaker 1: did it, like Lebron is at the level where he
Speaker 1: don't have to even say nothing. Do you agree? Like
Speaker 1: what do what do you think he don't have to
Speaker 1: say nothing. No, he got to him, I mean for
Speaker 1: us he is saying something that and that's you you know,
Speaker 1: he was just just like yo, what look He's like,
Speaker 1: look at this Jerry Jones picture. Um, you guys made
Speaker 1: a whole issue about this Kyrie thing, and Kyrie really
Speaker 1: didn't really saying I've been crazy already did it was
Speaker 1: supposed to link and say I know who I am. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones is in the picture with a mob of
Speaker 1: people not letting black students earlier, a mob of of
Speaker 1: of white students not letting a couple of black students
Speaker 1: in the school, and no one's bringing that up. That's crazy. No,
Speaker 1: it's not even the fact that they did not bring
Speaker 1: it up. Bring they brought it up it's just that
Speaker 1: they shoved it up slide. But like that's my only thing,
Speaker 1: Like we're only like we're the most forgiving culture there
Speaker 1: is or we also nothing can happen because jay Z
Speaker 1: went on reg and I have to cut you up
Speaker 1: with the NFL when he said we don't shine, we
Speaker 1: don't shine shoes no more on the NFL before like
Speaker 1: three years ago about kaeber nag in the whole situation,
Speaker 1: what else can we do? You're right and nothing? And
Speaker 1: since then now John Jerry Jones, what else can we do? It?
Speaker 1: It's there, it fell in, It fell in, Oh ship,
Speaker 1: you just let my bottom fall in the have a friend?
Speaker 1: That was it his fault. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: fucking porn at this point, what the fuck good it is?
Speaker 1: But but still good. It's not that it's not being
Speaker 1: brought up that Who can push that up? Man? Let's
Speaker 1: be clear. Have you ever worked for a team that
Speaker 1: you thought the owner was racist? Really? I'm scared? I
Speaker 1: can I get can I just wint that through Charles Obia? Yeah, Dollar,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Honestly, I don't know if he's racist.
Speaker 1: I think he's just he's so arrogant and locked up
Speaker 1: into himself that he just he don't know aboudy like
Speaker 1: he fud with the people who I mean who like
Speaker 1: literally he person person. Yeah, but it's almost like he
Speaker 1: got it. It's the difference he funk with you, unless
Speaker 1: you know it's it's levels to this ship. If you
Speaker 1: know I'm up here and you're down here, then you're good.
Speaker 1: And it ain't it ain't got no, it ain't no
Speaker 1: color barrier. It's just that's who. Yeah. Nah, some classism, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's more classism what I'm saying. So you're saying the
Speaker 1: Denver owner. Nah, Now that's my man. You're cronking him.
Speaker 1: That's my man. Um. Yeah, for sure. Where he blew,
Speaker 1: he blew somewhere else. But who do you think was
Speaker 1: a racist owner with a fair opinion? Not like you're
Speaker 1: a cute I don't like. I can't speak on dead people, right?
Speaker 1: That a lot though A Nelson? No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you're the owners, right, Yes, then we're not talk about
Speaker 1: the lake, is right? Okay? Yeah, that I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: You gotta watch that documentary. I want to watch that
Speaker 1: ship is like it's crazy because that's just crazy. It's
Speaker 1: crazy to see the different generations, the different legacies, the
Speaker 1: different and I didn't realize because you know, I'm a
Speaker 1: New Yorker. For me being an l A fan, just
Speaker 1: I can't even tell nobody that. I can't even like
Speaker 1: it's just I gotta using secret. I gotta Yeah. It
Speaker 1: was like I gotta cheer lead to myself, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But then watching this ship and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: it was a real legacy, and yeah, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's really dope. What's what's the name of the family,
Speaker 1: the the Lakers family, what's the bus? The Boss family?
Speaker 1: And you know, we gotta been balling out here. Come
Speaker 1: on to change something. There's lett be balling. Come in
Speaker 1: here and that's something. Come on, let's ball in the here.
Speaker 1: What's going on? You know he's gonna have a great
Speaker 1: watch on. Let me check his watch out trans No, No,
Speaker 1: he's still staying here. You gotta stand up. I'm losing weight.
Speaker 1: But hey man, it's all family coming here. I got
Speaker 1: this question for both of y'all. You be careful. What
Speaker 1: the fund are y'all doing here? Why? What is this golf? Golf? Really,
Speaker 1: I've never played golf, bro Golf is lit golfer is crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm fully bro I'm about to sell much and play
Speaker 1: golf full time. What yeah, whoever is we're playing? Did
Speaker 1: he just say? He just said you about to sell
Speaker 1: your jury business and play golf all time? But you
Speaker 1: do you don't get paid for playing golf. I made
Speaker 1: five million dollars. Actually are playing golf tournament tournaments. I
Speaker 1: got my own clubs. Wow, so you basically went pro
Speaker 1: for yourself. No, I'm just doing this bean, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: if you're getting sponsorips, you're in the same agency. So
Speaker 1: like we connected, and like we got a TV show
Speaker 1: dropping in two months about golf, about the jail you
Speaker 1: just me Jr. And Marva and who this tournament? Who put? Okay?
Speaker 1: So all right, subscribe to us the people that was
Speaker 1: living under the rock. What is this TV show that
Speaker 1: we know it's about golf? But how did this come together?
Speaker 1: You know, golf has been like a traditional game for
Speaker 1: hundreds of years, and it's been like a game that's
Speaker 1: kind of been gate kept. I don't even know, I say,
Speaker 1: but my folks, you know I'm gonna keep it one
Speaker 1: hundred and so, like I think that it was really
Speaker 1: important to see and to be quite honest, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know my story so coming up, I
Speaker 1: didn't just get it from white people. I got from
Speaker 1: black people too, because I was in hip hop, I
Speaker 1: was in sports and whatever. But there are a lot
Speaker 1: of courses. Even ten years ago, country club, they when
Speaker 1: let Asians play you only. So with the game now,
Speaker 1: we just wanted different perspectives, him being a pro bowler,
Speaker 1: me being you know, ex record executive, to to Jewelry
Speaker 1: marb on starting something for everyone. I just felt like
Speaker 1: if we got three fathers, three people that kind of
Speaker 1: came from some sort of hip hop culture background, and
Speaker 1: three different perspectives of where we are and in the world.
Speaker 1: With golf, I think it'd be interesting. I know it's
Speaker 1: gonna be interested. What's the name of the show. It's
Speaker 1: called Part three, right, okay, And I know that's a
Speaker 1: golf term, but I am golf a literate So what
Speaker 1: is a par three? So, of course has so many
Speaker 1: part Basically, let's say eighteen holes here, right, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be you know, thirteen fourteen. Par four's, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: two to four. Part five, and they'll probably be two
Speaker 1: to four. Part three's. Part three is gonna be a
Speaker 1: shorter hole. Technically on an eighteen hole, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: somewhere between yards to maybe even up to two hin yards.
Speaker 1: It's a shorter distance whole, so it means you've got
Speaker 1: three shot to make it in. And if you make
Speaker 1: three shots, that's part three. Right, you get parted for
Speaker 1: the course or a part for the whole. So far
Speaker 1: the numbers how many shots you get? Right? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: now then give you parts like the even if you
Speaker 1: get shoot part. You're doing really good now JR. No,
Speaker 1: I ain't. Yeah, I'm like a one for the course.
Speaker 1: Now we know what it getting drunk and just come on.
Speaker 1: Everybody I know loves golf, golf tournament, but you gotta
Speaker 1: drink the whole part or whatever. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You just come out and hit a couple of shots
Speaker 1: outside smoke, chill, The environment is good. You can play
Speaker 1: music if you want. So this is it's chill for me.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm must say, we just a guards ye see,
Speaker 1: and then um shouts robbed all my daft dogs. Yeah
Speaker 1: he took all dolls. Hey, I signed up for it.
Speaker 1: Off is changing now I'm saying more people get involved
Speaker 1: you know, even like the people out there with dregs,
Speaker 1: I he has ready just come him off. But i'man
Speaker 1: east Side golf shout to Easide Golf. They got to actually,
Speaker 1: you know they have black owned golf brand. They're out
Speaker 1: there doing Jordan class. Where is that stay from Atlanta? Atlanta?
Speaker 1: How about the l A? Is there a black owned
Speaker 1: golf course in the l A. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a black owned golf course in America. Maybe I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the golf course. How about My Bad Girl plenty three?
Speaker 1: And he has a couple of spots here, gatch I
Speaker 1: watched Curb Your Enthusiasm, and in Curb Your Enthusiasm, they
Speaker 1: had an Asian golf course in l A. Is that true?
Speaker 1: There's a couple of Asian golf courses here here in Miami.
Speaker 1: In Miami, I don't know you's in l A. Larry
Speaker 1: David's coach is my coach? Action Rondale Barrio shot the
Speaker 1: round Cuban Cuban, be don't tell Spanish Cuban. I'm maybe
Speaker 1: I'm kill you don't turn them. So there was a
Speaker 1: rumor that you made the very first Rockefeller changes. That
Speaker 1: true or no? Um no, Uh, that ain't true, you know.
Speaker 1: Obviously I made a lot of them, um, But the
Speaker 1: first one was Manny Rest in Peace, Manny from the District.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Tito was the first one my battle, you know, man,
Speaker 1: you don't think I mind the computer. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: I'm you know Mannie made. Tito made the first one.
Speaker 1: Jacob made a few after, and then m Chris Ayre,
Speaker 1: who I would love to see around because I think
Speaker 1: there need be more black jewelers in the game, especially
Speaker 1: in this world, especially when you're talking about hip hop.
Speaker 1: It's weird how um And I don't care because half
Speaker 1: my family is Jewish, but it is really a diamond
Speaker 1: game is controlled mostly by you know, by a lot
Speaker 1: of Jewish people and stuff and everything. And I don't
Speaker 1: have an issue you. But Chris Sarah was literally the
Speaker 1: biggest jeweler in the world, you know, I'm saying, the
Speaker 1: ice man, and he was making all the rolls good joints.
Speaker 1: And then Dame lost a bet to me, so he
Speaker 1: had to give me his one or three rods school
Speaker 1: Rock Chain. I had by o G Rock Chain still obviously,
Speaker 1: but I made a bunch of them, and I make
Speaker 1: the Rock Nation ones too. But yeah, it's real ship
Speaker 1: right here. It's real shure right here, that's real ship.
Speaker 1: So so basically when I'm leaving from both of y'alls
Speaker 1: that I gotta start playing golf for sure. And I
Speaker 1: could drink. It's not like, are you good? They got
Speaker 1: a person, have a long girl that dresses nice and
Speaker 1: bring the alcohol to you. We drink chains on the
Speaker 1: we're here right right. I was scared. It's golf face.
Speaker 1: Every year invites me to a tournament where they give
Speaker 1: us a hundred and fifty thousands. It's not Dredney, it's um,
Speaker 1: it's like like whatever. Like it's like it's like the
Speaker 1: travel and all this crazy shit. And I downplay it
Speaker 1: every year because they said you have to know how
Speaker 1: to play golf and I don't, but I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: I heard he nice too. Yeah, And it's that is
Speaker 1: that a pleasure for you like after you were tired,
Speaker 1: because I mean, I mean you spoke about it earlier
Speaker 1: about you know, the thrill of you were just walking
Speaker 1: through and you're saying that golf is one of those
Speaker 1: pleasures for you. Yeah, for sure? What your lords? Who
Speaker 1: the hell put you on the golf Moses Malone arrest
Speaker 1: in peace. Yeah, I think mos of Malone. Man. I
Speaker 1: was playing that uh with chart Lewis's golf out in Houston.
Speaker 1: His first foundation event was a golf out, and I
Speaker 1: was just riding around mess with people kind of like this,
Speaker 1: drinking and smoking and ship mess with the car girls.
Speaker 1: And he was a man, young feller. You talking all
Speaker 1: this ship because people was hitting in the woods. Ain't
Speaker 1: all over this place. Fella, Come here this ball. You're
Speaker 1: talking all this ship. Come here this bro, I get
Speaker 1: up there. Showed me how to hold this ship, like
Speaker 1: all right, like this is like yeah, I hate that ship.
Speaker 1: Three hundre yards down the fairway. Let's man sh easy
Speaker 1: then talking ship, go back around, drinking, smoking the ship.
Speaker 1: Come back on this group like an hour and a
Speaker 1: half later. You beat me like three hundred your mother,
Speaker 1: you can't do it again. You can't do it again.
Speaker 1: He telling everybody, I get up that, but she can't
Speaker 1: hit the ball. I'm gonna get this ship and I've
Speaker 1: been hook that shins. So Adam saying the story. You
Speaker 1: can't walk being humble because we got Tiger Woods with
Speaker 1: our agency, the best golfers in the world with our agency,
Speaker 1: right and I played with JR. And I played with
Speaker 1: some of the best people on earth and played my
Speaker 1: first p J problem last month that I've seen the
Speaker 1: best in the world. P n G. I play yesterday.
Speaker 1: This motherfucker hitting the ball just as far as p
Speaker 1: J players. And you played in the PJ played. What
Speaker 1: happened to you get invited to play in the PGA.
Speaker 1: Either you're a billionaire and you pay to play. Oh
Speaker 1: you could pay the play in the I'm like nobody.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying people can or you get Then they
Speaker 1: asked you and I got invited in Japan. They yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna You're donna trust us. Why you're either
Speaker 1: your course just sticking there? Oh no, no, man, he
Speaker 1: a lot of dude. He'll be ready at the point
Speaker 1: he's gonna hand somebody. I was like that when I
Speaker 1: was the kids. I was my man, don't trust nothing
Speaker 1: at all. Man. I don't know what kind of drink.
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of fucking was that called
Speaker 1: drink chance repetation. We got you're good over here, brother,
Speaker 1: and we're drinking that that that motherfucking space. So glad
Speaker 1: I'm worthy to drink it. Man. And I've been watching
Speaker 1: some people just ain't allowed to drink. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. The what you finish you do? Say? Did
Speaker 1: you finish you do? Set rank next us? We got
Speaker 1: the delimitate. I need some more man. Yeah, And we
Speaker 1: got to be talking about yeah because because I don't
Speaker 1: know where the car was. I have my air pods
Speaker 1: on my medicine and there I was like, oh God,
Speaker 1: now let me ask you something. Uh been baller Um
Speaker 1: and jay Um are y'all out here for art for
Speaker 1: a basil? I'm not here for golf, bro, I'm not
Speaker 1: for art. To one of my friends as good as
Speaker 1: a young he's not young, but black painter Alonzo Adams,
Speaker 1: he made a piece for me. We are ancestors while
Speaker 1: the Dreams and you know, he makes a lot of
Speaker 1: great pieces, makeing a lot of black art golf pieces
Speaker 1: as well. So I'm coming to see this show. Was
Speaker 1: seeing something of this with I'm not really sure. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I wish. I wish I'd be a better promotion for him.
Speaker 1: I could have from Jersey to even so he said,
Speaker 1: don't get you from Miami too, Bro, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to he could only go he's from Calli, He's from
Speaker 1: New York. Now we did Cally baby amazing, nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with I was born. Were fighting, We're fighting. We're always
Speaker 1: trying to get ours, you know. But when you said
Speaker 1: we all our wildest ancestors, that's want to be the
Speaker 1: greatest um slogans. Let's not it's not movement. How do
Speaker 1: you feel about that we are our wildest ancestor dreams?
Speaker 1: To me, it means a lot, because like when I
Speaker 1: think about my grandparents and I think about my mine,
Speaker 1: the lineage that I was fortunate to come through. Man
Speaker 1: I come from. My grandmother had eleven children and so
Speaker 1: unfortunately too passed away. So I got a nine answered
Speaker 1: uncles and my my father's the oldest boy. Throughout my siblings.
Speaker 1: The majority of my are start my my answered uncles.
Speaker 1: Person has them there for the five kids from that
Speaker 1: fort to five kids one or old throughout that each
Speaker 1: individual within that has at least two to three or
Speaker 1: four kids. So my cousin's family and you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that's where I come from. So when
Speaker 1: we do events and ship like that, like I actually
Speaker 1: see it now, like I see me having kids, my
Speaker 1: daughters fourteen five to fourteen year olds, five and four.
Speaker 1: Like I remember at that point in age being fourteen
Speaker 1: years old seeing my uncle's and seeing my dad around
Speaker 1: my age, you know what I'm saying. So it's all
Speaker 1: it all started hitting to me when I started thinking
Speaker 1: about my grandparents, like damn, where was they at? What
Speaker 1: was they doing at this point when they was thirty five,
Speaker 1: thirty six, thirty seven years So? What was they going through? Then?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I don't think about some
Speaker 1: of the ship that I'm so fortunate to be complaining about. Now,
Speaker 1: what was they fighting for just as I mean, just
Speaker 1: to walk down the street without being sped on whatever
Speaker 1: whatever I'm saying. I think about that, and I was like,
Speaker 1: my uh, I think about how fortunate and blessed I
Speaker 1: am to continuously do ship that mattered me something to
Speaker 1: people to where my at least my grandparents and people
Speaker 1: even you know, further than that, it's connected to me
Speaker 1: a better lineage going forward, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Because we all came from you know, especially if black
Speaker 1: and brown, he came from some type of l to
Speaker 1: get to where we at right now. And for that
Speaker 1: for them, people who were sacrificed, and for all the
Speaker 1: way die. Whether you came over on the boat or
Speaker 1: he was already here, you went through that bullshit to
Speaker 1: be able to steal, you know, come up to where
Speaker 1: we are now. Ship. That's a blessing in disguise, if
Speaker 1: if it was the orders Alonzo Adam. Yeah. Great about
Speaker 1: like one thing I learned on this plane trip over
Speaker 1: here and talking to him because we're both sponsored. I'm
Speaker 1: sponsored by major golf brands for billions of dollars. The
Speaker 1: first thing he had mentioned to me about the whole sponsorship.
Speaker 1: He a huge advocate for putting He want to put
Speaker 1: golf in a good because if you think about it, right,
Speaker 1: a lot of people out there just don't They probably
Speaker 1: have the physical athletic ability, absolutely, just don't have the resources.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's cool. Don't think what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because that's the first thing. Well, that's access. If you
Speaker 1: don't have access, you you're not gonna think cool at all.
Speaker 1: And I had a thing I kind of could have
Speaker 1: had access, right, but I mean like I was like, man,
Speaker 1: no bitches, yeah, yeah, for sure, ain't nobody and you know,
Speaker 1: pussy playing absolutely you know. And so once I figured
Speaker 1: it out, I was like, well, First of all, I'm married,
Speaker 1: so I don't care about that no more. But we
Speaker 1: came out here. I had a reason. I rest in
Speaker 1: peace Virgils event last night to go see my man
Speaker 1: and bris usually come out here, but I've been coming
Speaker 1: to Miami for the last thirty years since. How can
Speaker 1: I be downs way back? I've been homing out here
Speaker 1: and everything right, So like coming out here now just
Speaker 1: vibe with gr yesterday I'm about to buy a creep here.
Speaker 1: Now there you go. You're late. You should have been
Speaker 1: welcome home. I mean, how used to fly here just
Speaker 1: to fighting? Yeah, we've been here. How used to like
Speaker 1: just to go to Porthago? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Just yeah, we was there yesterday. So we need a
Speaker 1: gold community. We need to gold class. But that goes
Speaker 1: from Hispanics and and let's and everything. It's just it's
Speaker 1: not accessible. I just had that. I just hit the ball.
Speaker 1: I just hit a part with none. I had a
Speaker 1: part none. I don't think. I don't think he did that.
Speaker 1: It went you know, I don't know if I can't
Speaker 1: remember the name, but I can't remember his name, but
Speaker 1: the CEO of MARB Stephen, he sent me up. He said,
Speaker 1: you want to hit the ball. I said, I've never
Speaker 1: hit it before. He did not hit the ball. I said,
Speaker 1: do you have anything in your pockets? He said no.
Speaker 1: I said, okay, hold my phone in my wallet, like
Speaker 1: I'm shimp ship right. And I hit that ball about
Speaker 1: forty ft and I was like, get my phone water back,
Speaker 1: but shout out to Stephen and he sent me up
Speaker 1: with people's people's. I mean, look, I love it out here.
Speaker 1: I've always loved it out here. I used to have
Speaker 1: a check out here for a lot of Dale shout.
Speaker 1: They always say that count without married. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: I just love the vibe out here. To air something
Speaker 1: about it out here, that's amazing for sure. One time,
Speaker 1: I forget what team it was, but y'all was at
Speaker 1: Club Live and y'all were surrounded by your own teammates
Speaker 1: and this is like, this is an ill moment because
Speaker 1: they was like, yo, we knew that that y'all were there,
Speaker 1: but y'all wasn't taking pictures. You remember what I'm talking about? What? What? What? What? What?
Speaker 1: Because I forget it wasn't what team was, this was nixt.
Speaker 1: This is because you were with Lebron this night are
Speaker 1: you talking It's Cleveland that it was that Club Live
Speaker 1: and y'all, y'all came and I think, y'all, I think
Speaker 1: I forget when it was, but it was like an
Speaker 1: important game. And they said none of the capitalists taking
Speaker 1: no pictures, and they just still he was there the
Speaker 1: next day. It was the next day and they went
Speaker 1: to Club Lift, and I swear to god, it was
Speaker 1: like I always wanted to ask you this because there's
Speaker 1: always these weird stories about Tom Brady and you know,
Speaker 1: these elite athletes that make they hold me just do
Speaker 1: some crazy ship Derrek and all this. Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: was one of these NICs. It was like yo and yeah.
Speaker 1: It was all in the circle and Club Lift, and
Speaker 1: I loved and I was brought to and there's like, no,
Speaker 1: they said, no one's taking pictures. So I said, oh ship.
Speaker 1: I just sat back and I swear I think it
Speaker 1: was the Capitalist. It could have been a Lakers too,
Speaker 1: I'm being honest, you're laughing, like so, I always thought
Speaker 1: this was like this this crazy ship because they like,
Speaker 1: I spee to Tom Brady, he's like um teammates and
Speaker 1: they'd be like, yeah, Tom made me wake up at
Speaker 1: three thirty in the morning, hazy like some hazy ship.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make your break. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm talking like fifteen different stories
Speaker 1: from there because for the Kobe ship. Um, but she's
Speaker 1: like it's that how it is sometimes right, Just I
Speaker 1: loved that though, Like it's it's crazy, Like that's what
Speaker 1: I missed the most, like ship, like the brotherhood of
Speaker 1: it all, you know what I'm saying, Like you get
Speaker 1: the because when you you were, you out there with
Speaker 1: them more than you with your kids. Like I know
Speaker 1: these dudes more than like my my extion now but
Speaker 1: me and my wife at the time, but I knew
Speaker 1: I knew them better than I knew how to you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like I'm with y'all every single day,
Speaker 1: Like we go to go to your room. I'm going
Speaker 1: to morroom with two or three in the morning, Like
Speaker 1: we're waking up. You know, we're gonna get coffee, We're
Speaker 1: gonna do We're gonna eat like nah, stop and that
Speaker 1: ship really builds up. It's any of the really builds
Speaker 1: a bound with with people or just really like spending
Speaker 1: too much time people like ye, your energy you can
Speaker 1: go that way. You know what I'm saying the same, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you want the subway in New York and with clear
Speaker 1: I've convinced them to take this up. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: was trying to get back to the room. Bro, they
Speaker 1: with the whole team walking into the subway in New York. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because they don't understand, like where you're taking the bus
Speaker 1: in the city like this is. First of all, were
Speaker 1: staying a way uptown when we got to go back downtown.
Speaker 1: Then when we then for the game, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to go back downtown and then go all the way
Speaker 1: across town to get to get to E w R.
Speaker 1: What we're doing all is traveling for five minutes to
Speaker 1: get on the track over there. Like na, Bro, they're
Speaker 1: gonna start tripping. They're gonna trip anyway you take the train.
Speaker 1: They're just gonna say, you're a regular person at one
Speaker 1: point in time in your life. Now six ft five
Speaker 1: dudes won't get into the six eight six seven place,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, yall did it first, or maybe and
Speaker 1: he did it after. I'm not sure. I think he
Speaker 1: did it. He did it first. It was dope because
Speaker 1: he was sitting next to the old girl. Really didn't
Speaker 1: know who he was. Oh my god, I gotta be
Speaker 1: a larious further further, look at y'all, y'all make that
Speaker 1: moment to contact Lebron little way you're laughing, and she's like, y'all,
Speaker 1: it's crazy because you really think, like to me, like, man,
Speaker 1: everybody noticed my and so the few people in the
Speaker 1: world don't just be like, yo, you're serious. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's fine. You've played against joining Nah in golf, yeah,
Speaker 1: but not on the court. Yeah. That was a nice
Speaker 1: floss too. Yeah, No, I ain't no fuss. He kicked
Speaker 1: my eye. Ain't golf. Yeah. You've played Againstcopie in the game.
Speaker 1: In the game, yeah, dustin me. He got me. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you a funny story about Cope. Right.
Speaker 1: So Byron Scott is my coach my rookie year, and
Speaker 1: Byron Scott like he meantor code coming up and mean
Speaker 1: that was like o G So yeah, so we shoot
Speaker 1: around and David we had practice one day and then
Speaker 1: we played on the next night. So they all day long. Man, listen,
Speaker 1: you gotta stay down on the pump fake. That's in
Speaker 1: the thurs day on the pump fake all day shoot
Speaker 1: around day before the game like all day long, down,
Speaker 1: stay down on this pump fake. So again, I'm eighteen
Speaker 1: checking in the game. It's cold. I'm still like, damn,
Speaker 1: it's cold, like you know, I mean, I still got
Speaker 1: to like not legitis, but like, oh ship, but you eighteen,
Speaker 1: he only been in the table, like he's been in
Speaker 1: the league a couple of years. If you're coming in
Speaker 1: after him now, cod was like nine ten years when
Speaker 1: I when you came in, yeah he was yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was longer than that. Damn yeah. So uh of course,
Speaker 1: as soon as you get the ball to dribbles, right,
Speaker 1: pump fake, I jumped foul him and one knock it down. Bro,
Speaker 1: when I tell you this ship happened and like probably
Speaker 1: all of of eighteen seconds, I think they just got
Speaker 1: the ball up kicking toners. Like the first literally the
Speaker 1: first play from when I checked into the game. Acts
Speaker 1: took me right out. It was like that most young
Speaker 1: boys ship I've ever seen in my life. I was
Speaker 1: just like, but it's crazy because like, if you know,
Speaker 1: cool playing against him, his shot face like he going,
Speaker 1: you know he's shooting this ship. Oh he should fuck
Speaker 1: then you gotta file him. You just can't let him
Speaker 1: get the shout off. It's like Fund was that dude.
Speaker 1: He was that dude for real, but now been born.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you what the fund is the problem
Speaker 1: with you and Jim Jones? How the job? Man? That
Speaker 1: was some bullshit from academics. Bro, that he's that's me
Speaker 1: and Jim is good. I loved Jim. Bro, that's that's beautiful.
Speaker 1: That's my dog. Bro. I have been around since set
Speaker 1: dates like being it's good. Jimmy. Hit me up, Hey man,
Speaker 1: I'm in you know Asia here, help me get into
Speaker 1: just this Japanese ARTI ship me and Jim is good.
Speaker 1: We ain't gonna beet it. So what the deity happened?
Speaker 1: He was showing a picture of some doing some pull
Speaker 1: up something and I trowed his page. I was like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you can stopped being scared of me. I heard you
Speaker 1: can't walk through hard on or some ship. Man. I'm
Speaker 1: here waiting for you. I'm on one too. Fit was
Speaker 1: good and he was like it's nothing. We just he
Speaker 1: started kind of sucking around back. Meanwhile, me and him
Speaker 1: about to go meet up his day. So academics made
Speaker 1: it seem like it was some drama, some beat for
Speaker 1: some ship. DJ academics. Yeah, but so so. People actually
Speaker 1: were hitting me up like, hey, man, if you really
Speaker 1: got I got some people, go go get him. I
Speaker 1: was like, the fuck you talk, girl, that's my dog,
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna be I'm gonna beat with nobody. Didn't
Speaker 1: your troll dream chams early on beausewarn you told us
Speaker 1: at one point and then I did, uh Captain Jack, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that, like, yo, let's do
Speaker 1: this thing. And I know I'm supposed to come on
Speaker 1: the show. I just don't really we love you over here,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean I know I love you know,
Speaker 1: I know you know, but I love saying to your
Speaker 1: face we love you know. In fact, he had a
Speaker 1: phone call we had because we had to straighten it down.
Speaker 1: We had yeah Twitter exchange, right, yeah, it's beautiful. I
Speaker 1: remember that. It was beautiful. It was beautiful and I'm
Speaker 1: not tripping m I would tell you the truth if
Speaker 1: I was. If anything, yeah, maybe I inst to get
Speaker 1: him up, but it was like I gotta love, like
Speaker 1: I would't even be up here by that same same
Speaker 1: with us. That's all we is. Love combats love cause
Speaker 1: too much energy for the average man. Yes man, and
Speaker 1: and you know, and I'm extremely you know, proud of
Speaker 1: you know, because I see it's just the rocket fell
Speaker 1: of days um and to where you at and I've
Speaker 1: seen you from the beginning to where you guys are,
Speaker 1: and it's just beautiful, man. Like that's what all of
Speaker 1: it is. We spread love, positive energy and and love God.
Speaker 1: And I appreciate you saying we don't but the sun
Speaker 1: is coming out and saying it, I'm gonna start playing
Speaker 1: golf because golf has brought I don't know why there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know, but man, thank
Speaker 1: you guys, man, both of you guys. And it's always
Speaker 1: let's make some noise for that man. And thanks for
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