WEBVTT - Episode 344 “StockX Golf Invitational” 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.520 Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:17.680 and I Heart Radio and it's Drink chas motherfucking podcast. Mason, 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:21.680 he's a legendary Queen's rapper. He's like Green is your 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:25.880 boy in or he's a Miami hippop pioneer d J E. 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:28.280 F N. Together they drink it up with some of 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:33.440 the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional podcast. And 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:37.479 your number one swords for drunk drink every day is 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:49.159 New year' z for Drink Champs. Drink up. Mother. Let 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:51.320 me tell how probably am and you you got a 0:00:51.479 --> 0:01:04.360 night deal Jordan Jordan Animal at deal craon. So it 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:08.000 described to people who who who's living under the rock, 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:10.960 what exactly is do you you do? We a legend 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:14.160 that we already send you from Queens were doing like 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:16.720 the behind the scenes. It's not behind the scenes, um, 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:20.080 but just described to people. You know what's going on 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:22.480 in you're like the man. So I'm a professional BMX 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:28.160 athletes ride bikes, jumping over everything, manuel and popping Willie's 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:30.800 all those things, bro, and I took that from just 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:34.440 a love and a hobby and turned into a career. Wow, 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:38.360 I've been pro for fifteen years man, you start writing, Um, 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:40.600 I started riding when I was about four years old, 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:43.760 but I started taking BMX serious around like twelve years 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:46.480 old and I turned pro eighteen. So how does the 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.040 person in turn pro like from people that's sitting around 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:52.200 riding a bike right now and um just having fun, 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.240 how do they How does a person that's that's doing 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:57.160 that say, you know what, I could make money off it? 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:59.720 And I could I could be doing what nig was doing, right, 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:01.800 So two different ways to go about it. Um, you 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:05.080 can rideing like the traditional contests, compete and whatnot. Or 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.200 you could just be doing your thing outside like video 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:11.360 social media, social like huge rollings to it and um 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.280 you'll find different companies or companies will find you haven't 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.720 check out, you know, and if you're worthy, if it's right, 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.960 the opportunity to makes sense, it's sign you up. Right? 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.200 So then how does how does one not only get 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:26.560 UM via max uh like staff, but then you got um, 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:32.120 let's pump about all eight don't go to bask me help? 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:38.480 Yeah yeah yeah the nine hole man? Yeah? Oh yeah, 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.160 how you are God for too? Now I keep my 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:47.840 head with the vibs. So how do you how does it. 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:53.000 How does a person um even like you know, because 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:56.959 like I said, you said, you got Jordan Jordan's Uh 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:59.919 you know, I remember Jordan's like first athlete he ever 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:05.000 endorsed with Derek Jeter, right, so didn't he endorsed you? Like? 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.120 How the elder is that I got my Jordas right now? 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:11.080 Like you know what, how does that I got my 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:16.040 gold Cup? Tomario to man, you know what's going on? 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:21.400 I don't really see Wait a minute, I took it off. 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.359 I had to give my life together. But that's real quick. 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.359 That's that's the main way to to to generate revenue 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:29.400 if you're like a bike rider, if you're a skater 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.200 or server, like endorsement deals, right, endorsement deals, and then 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:35.800 you create your own to create your own brand. Um, 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:39.960 you compete in contests, especially nowadays man, with like social media, 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:41.880 there's so many different ways to go about it. Like 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:45.080 it's really like the wild wild Western sense if you 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:47.400 can make it your own. This is what I've been 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:50.560 doing my entire career. How did you get to call 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.200 with Jordan's care What did they say? So? So listen, 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.560 So when I turned pro right, Um, I turned from 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:58.880 eighteen and I got signed to Dave Mirra. So for 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:00.360 those of you who don't know who Dave Marry is, 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:03.640 Dave Marry is like the Jordans of b he know 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:05.840 what I mean, Like he's the guy father. He's the 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:09.720 biggest bmxed rout of all time. In my opinion, God 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:11.960 rested Dell, you know what I mean, Like he's right 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.120 but the soul and all that. So he signed me 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.280 when I was eighteen, and I got signed to Nike 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:20.240 a couple of months later. So like when I turned pro, 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:23.440 was like in a very like kind of like President 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:25.680 way right, it was like like, damn, we're signed to 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:27.760 Mirraco Bikes and you signed to Nike. So I've been 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:30.200 on Nanke for a very long time. I'm both recently 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:34.000 I signed from UM I switched from Nike to Jordan Brand. 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.400 It's been like about a year ago, so it's it's 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:40.160 been It's been amazing to go cross category and a 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:47.039 brand like that, you know, I mean, right, has has 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:49.960 Do you feel that representation has changed from black and 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.320 brown in this space because before, back in the days 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:56.560 you look back, it wasn't there because you got so 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:58.720 many kids from the hood. Now can be because looking 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:00.880 at it like, Okay, I can do this now too, right, 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:03.280 you feel me? Like even for real, like you know, 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.559 I'm so glad that I'm affiliated with Parrele. But even 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:10.160 back then, like he was, he was presenting like the skateboard, 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:13.920 the BMX type of thing and people weren't ignoring him. 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:15.760 Back now, that wasn't cool, But that's because I think 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:18.600 there was a lack of Like I was a little skater, 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.320 market was the only skater that that was Latinos that 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.120 I was like, yo, he's doing it. There was only 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.279 like one or two a handful, right see. But nowadays 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:29.679 with like social media, now everyone has access to because 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.640 we want skate parks everywhere, Like people can put their 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.359 content out and they're not confined to having to wait 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.640 for the big brand to come find you, right, I 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:39.520 mean like now it's like, Okay, I'm gonna put my 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:41.080 content out and I'm gonna make it mine and I 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:45.560 can create my merch. But if I need to do now, 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:47.479 that's that's that's It's a beautiful thing man to see. 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:49.480 And then like not only that, I was just so 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.880 proud because it's like coming from Queens, two of our 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:55.680 biggest brands, that it's so um weighed on us and 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:59.000 so heavy on us. It's Nike and then it's Moette 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:02.760 like you a drug dealers, like you know, they've always 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:04.680 had my wet And I looked and I was just, 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.120 you know, I always see I follow you, obviously appreciate 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:10.520 and I support you. I'm gonna see you a lot. 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:12.880 But I'm sitting back and I'm like this, I said, 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.640 this guy really is living the dream of a queen's kid. 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:18.400 When you have you have a Nike slash Jordan deal 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.320 uh and a Moat deal like, and you're you're doing 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:26.160 what you actually love to do. I'm mad. I would 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:32.159 be much man. I mean for you, I'm like, I'm 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:35.440 still being driving you, still crazy ship with you. You 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:37.520 still go to the city and you still like hit 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.520 the park. I'm still do the tricks. But my thing is, 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.280 I was sitting there like I'll be like I'll be thinking, 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:45.080 like you're gonna get hurt. Like I'm like, you know, 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:47.280 so why do you still do that? Is that something 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:50.599 you have to do to keep keep your skills shop? 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.799 I mean yeah, Like I still love riding my bicycle 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:54.800 at the end of the day, like this is what 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:56.839 got me here. Like I was out riding yesterday. I 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.920 was in front of the FTX arena, like look at 0:06:59.920 --> 0:07:03.240 my right now. Oh god blood, I was out there 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.840 getting busy yesterday. So wherever I'm at, like my bike 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:08.040 is usually with me. What's it to your point? Right, 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:09.800 like when you said like the whole nikee thing and 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:11.920 like the my wet thing. I remember like being a 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.160 kid in the hood, like growing up in Laurelton, like 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:15.960 pull them to the stoop and like the older heads 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:19.320 was out there following my wet chilling fresh like fresh 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.240 nankee fit on, you know what I mean. So I'm 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:23.960 just following tradition in the sense you feel me like, 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:28.040 you know, it's crazy, what is so much of a 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:29.840 queeze thing? I felt like that was a part of 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:35.760 the outfit. Like yeah, I feel like you know, I 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.040 can say that now because because Jake doing business with 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:44.640 web Scott, you know what I mean. But yeah, like 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.920 what was really like it's really like even to now, 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.400 Like yesterday, I was drinking my wet right missively and 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:53.280 it really like I promise you I hate this time. 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:56.800 I got alcoholic, but it takes like regular cool aid, 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:00.360 you know, like you're not used to it. I was 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:02.480 so used to it and it's like it's going right 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.440 back to drinking cool it. But how is that? Like 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:07.640 you know what I'm saying, Like like it's crazy, right, 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.400 So I think it was junior This year I went 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:15.080 out to Paris and fashion. Yeah, I was out there 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.760 doing that and my way invited me to the Chateau 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:22.360 out and that was the vibe because they brought me 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.360 to the sellers. But you have to see the process 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:27.800 of how they bottle, how they store, how they aged them, 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:29.600 put them a web, you know what I mean. And 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:34.080 then he had this amazing like chateau was like ten bedrooms, 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:38.360 marble everywhere and chandeliers like wow. So they had this 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:41.160 entire experience which is so crazy man. So it's again 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.640 to think about it like being a kid riding around 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.480 my hood watching like the older cast and the hustlers 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:48.520 like top of my wed or being a club whatever 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.679 the case is. Get to work with a brand like that. 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:55.600 And now France like actually bombing with with that Brandon building. 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:57.560 It's in a cluble opportunity, you know what I mean. 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:00.120 And your passion got to there, you didn't have to 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:06.880 do something else to It's crazy. Yes, come on, come down, down. 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:12.800 Come on, come on, come on, couple boy. I hate that. 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.320 I hate to immediately ask my phone somebody phone man, 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:19.160 hate to immediately ask both of y'all this question. What's up? 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:24.079 But it's a hot topic right now, and people are 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:28.240 saying that two of our gods in hip hop, Oh, 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.960 come on now, are not relevant. I told her, I 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.160 think the word relevance is being used the wrong way 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.440 to be. I can answer that very easily, but I 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:37.800 want to. I want to. I want to start with you. 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.280 But you walked in. They're saying that, I don't know how. 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:45.640 I mean, I kind of understood what Booty was trying 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.640 to say. You know, you already know. It's not that 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.840 you can't. The word jay Z and relevance is gonna 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:54.680 always be, you know, to me hand in hand. So 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.600 he's definitely relevant because what he does with the culture 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.640 when he constant moves, but for me not definitely not 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:05.240 He's doing his non stop too, just exactly, so both 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:09.000 of them definitely relevant to me right now. You come on, 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:17.319 I mean, listen, we're sitting here drinking space, you know 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:19.120 what I mean. I feel like Dream Chance is one 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.760 of the biggest shows in the world right now. You 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.319 know what I mean. So we're here doing that here 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.440 and then nazis queens man, so like, I mean, come on, 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:28.679 you're dropping an album, dropping music, like how could we 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.440 how can we sit here and say it's not I'll 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:35.640 answer the question like this, right in different people's worlds, 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:40.760 relevance like and like, listen, right now, I can go 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:45.520 to a Jamaican concert right and there might be thirty 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:50.160 thousand people saying that Norma's not relevant, right because I'm 0:10:50.200 --> 0:11:03.240 not saying blood Clode exactly. You know, I don't not 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:07.760 to make it back. I don't know where you love 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:09.480 the yard, you know what I'm saying. But what I'm 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.640 trying to say is they would say, if I was 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.760 to drop my old music, let's say that's not relevant 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:18.320 right now, right, So they're they're right, they're right, right. 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:25.200 So but then in my world, maybe this reggae artist 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:27.480 is old school regular artists that it's still relevant and 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:31.199 therefore it's not what are you still listening to my 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:33.760 my school hookie parties. It's not what I'm listening to now. 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:37.079 So the word relevant is only relevant to people who 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:41.080 find relevant relevant. It's very specifically, it's very specific, Like 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.840 some people were making that conversation about music specific Yeah, 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:47.600 you can have that specific to generational, like youth versus this. 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:49.480 You know what I'm saying. But relevance, come on, it's 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:51.560 kind of it's we gotta redefine it right now. Like 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.240 right now, some people say Britney Spears not relevant. I say, 0:11:54.200 --> 0:12:01.360 if Britty Spears come on, drink chance, we're gonna kill that. Man. 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:03.200 You know what's just for me? I think it's about 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:06.000 explosion man, Like everyone, I feel like nowadays because you 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:07.960 can follow who you want to follow on social media, 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:11.160 like your world's find that too white important? You know, 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:12.920 I you know, what you find important doesn't mean that 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:15.040 something else is not important. But I think it's all 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:18.040 based down to and you know, Boosty is my friend. 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:20.000 But it's like if he was to find the young 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.440 kid and queens right now, just a random young kid 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:25.200 and queens, and you will say it's Boosey relevant. I 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.040 bet you that kid and queens would not say he 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:30.480 is because that kid in Queens listen to two whoever 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:35.240 whoever is hot at that moment, and maybe he might 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:39.240 agree with you. And you know, I will never come 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:43.120 at Boosey. But um, and that's just really what it is, man, 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:44.760 it's just like you know, I think it was here 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:46.840 is a booty made that statement, and he was like 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.439 where he is. His circuit that he's doing as well, 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:54.040 the clubs that he's performing a very specific so it's yeah, 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:56.920 he's like, you're not relevant there. I would never be 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.800 relevant there. Honestly, my style of music, you know, he 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:03.360 prob whatever it is wouldn't play necessarily in those venues anywhere. 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:05.880 So of course you would believe I'm not relevant because 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.520 we don't play necessarily at the same venue as well. 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:15.240 What well, to me, they're both relevant to me. I 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.600 still look up to them what they did as far 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:20.560 as business, as far as music, as far as artistry, 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:24.480 I always look up to them. But I will never 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.760 deny the fact that m Boost it's his own version 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:30.400 of jay Z. I will never defined the fact that 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:36.640 it's only version of No talked about this. Yeah, we 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:54.800 relevant over talking about but the fact was that everything 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.440 is very finitely he says, everything is like very detailed 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:01.200 to what you're watching when you're looking. Truth funny, relevancy 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.200 is irrelevant to me because the fact that you could 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.000 be I know artists that like m when the sound 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.040 club ship was popping, and there was artists that had 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.640 millions and millions of followers. They're doing festivals. You asked 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.400 the average like head like hip hop. He let's say 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:15.360 you asked me. You know this, are never heard of him. 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:17.679 But this artist here is making millions of dollars. They've 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:21.440 got million the followers they're doing, they're doing festivals. That's 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:25.960 in my world. K will never be irrelevant. The world 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.160 that I live in, big will never be irrelevant. But 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.120 to my son, my some bobby doesn't even know who 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.520 Big Dad. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But that's 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:36.280 actually even more importantly my wife, your tongue, you'll never 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.880 be relevant, like to our like I'm saying, it's all 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:42.520 that is irrelevant. What I'm saying because to somebody you relevant. 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:47.120 I'm saying, yeah, man, there's a lot of good watches 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:53.160 out here. Man. I was just looking around Judge like 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:58.920 you know, I judge your years years, you know, it's 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.600 crazy around yesterday and I was like yo, and he 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:04.040 was like, yeah, now you know, now you want to 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.320 wear Richard Mills. It's about ten years ago. I was 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:10.320 laughing at for a round like this bull. I had 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:14.920 no idea what I was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.440 yeah that guys, what's going on? Trying to make this 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:21.960 to pop up? Let's go, what do you call u? 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:37.120 The moon? That you called it? The moon? Come on down? 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:49.480 You already know man, he's going down. We got motherfucking 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:55.080 the Holy jay Awsmith build how about you, champion? As 0:15:55.080 --> 0:16:00.680 soon as you got to god Ward when um, but 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.680 I gotta asked about this famous place. It's this famous place. 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.640 Everyone thought you was high. You know what flames over 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:13.160 exactly what you I gotta ask when they did that? 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:15.400 Though he was locked in, He locked in for the moment. 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:19.920 The ambitions was there, the passion was there. You wanted it. 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.600 But so he's saying that means you look sorry, no, 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:26.200 no Flames, don't Hennessy anybody. We don't weak. They had 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.200 nothing to do with Hennessy all week. Nothing to do 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.040 with Hennessy all week. Okay, to explain this play, tell us, 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:35.320 so what happened was normally in this situation for us, 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.480 the game is close, you get an offensive rebound, we 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.120 get it. That means we get a second chance. We're 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:44.080 gonna call time out, get the ways organized, get the 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:47.080 ball back in Brian's so in this case, we got 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:50.040 the ball, I brought it back. I'm waiting for somebody to, 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:53.120 you know, called time out of something. So nobody did nothing. 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:54.840 So I'm all right, bet we're in a good situation. 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.520 I'm gonna bring the ball back out. It turns out 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:03.520 what he was, it was in a good situation. But 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:05.280 it is what it is. When mean, I take that, 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:08.119 I'll take that far off if that's what it was 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:11.040 what caused us to lose the series? All right? I 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:14.760 mean they only had Katie, Steph and Clay and so 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.800 do you miss playing ball? Yeah, of course that's my 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:23.000 That's my first love. Yeah, that's my passion for sure. 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:27.000 Coming from from coming from New York, coming from Jersey, 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:30.000 that upbringing and get into the Big League and then 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:33.440 moving on to college after your career, how important was 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:37.680 that to you? Uh? I mean honestly, I thought about 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.200 it a lot like my early years coming into the league, 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:41.879 Like I was like, I'm always gonna go back and 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.520 get my get my degree and whatever whatever. But you know, 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.600 I mean after year six seven, went straight from high school, 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:50.639 straight from school, so I after for me, after like 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:54.800 years six seven, eight nine, and I'm like that ship did, 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.240 like I ain't gone back to school. I'm done, Like 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:59.640 I mean, my mom even my mom was like, boy, 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:01.879 you ain't. Don't even worry about I ain't tripping on that. 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.399 So then after like you know, after my career and 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.000 after the ship started getting slow as a hooper, I 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.639 was trying to figure it out. Man, Rayal and hooked 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:15.040 me up. It was some real knowledge of self and 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:18.320 being more self aware, and uh, after that was just over. 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:22.280 I just didn't figure somelf was so dope. Man, that 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:26.159 was that was so cool because so many, like our youngsters, 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.280 they think that that is the end all be all, 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:30.919 like you get you, you become a rapper, or you 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:35.119 become getting the NBA, and then so then our goals 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:38.600 are so limited. Like like what you did was so honorable, 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:41.080 Like I always wish I had your number to just 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.760 call you and say how proud to be as a 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.480 community because you made it to where you made it, 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:48.680 you had you your rings already and then you went 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:51.040 to college. That was like that was like just like 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:54.080 so honorable, like like let's just make some noise that again, 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:59.800 that it's never too late, and like the biggest thing 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:02.040 for me, like growing up, I never like I was 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.159 I was always an athlete, like it was all to 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:07.480 me making it out. Was always basketball, football, baseball or 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:10.120 something like that. So that was my that was my outlets. 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.800 So you know when I catered to that. So I 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:15.320 cated to that so much I didn't learn how to 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:19.320 do you know, everything else. Like people people like get 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:21.280 on me about it, but I've never changed the tire 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:23.560 on the car. I've had money since I was seventeen, 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:26.680 so my time I got my first Yeah, like I ain't. 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:30.360 I don't know. I really like I called my mother 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:33.480 when it's time to like, uh, washing my clothes, I 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:36.040 gotta call my mom's Like I ain't call I have, 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:38.720 So I paid somebody since I was seventeen eighteen wash 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:41.119 my shop. I don't know do this so like little 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:44.439 ship like that, like trade, like trades, and when they 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:46.960 took trades out of the community, and like we really 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:50.160 I feel like, especially the black and brown communities where 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:52.120 we really like that because we can't. We stopped working 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:54.879 with our hands, but stopped being a carpenters, start, stopped 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:58.760 being construction workers, stopped being so many things that just 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:03.200 it's a necessive through life opposed just clicking and making 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:07.119 it seem like anything is easy. Just use them all 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:10.160 the time. It's a confidence builder from person for sure. 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:12.800 For sure. What's your favorite team you ever played? For? 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:18.920 Good question? Favorite team, there's no there's no pressure, there's 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:23.119 no pressure n C double as man, I need to 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:31.400 break that barrier actually though. But yeah, favorite team though, 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:33.680 My favorite team was my Cleveland team, the Chip team. 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:37.359 Like we was we were sticking Steves. But just on 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:43.560 that team as well, right yeah, me, Kai, bran Ken Channing, 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:48.480 r J Sean. I mean we had a crew. It 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:53.200 was Tristan. We missed that team. Man. Just the bond 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:55.480 we had as a team was crazy. Like I've never 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:58.000 I've been on good teams, but I've been on some 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:00.640 teams that we quote unquote tighten it. But like every 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:04.720 time we moved around, it was always thirteen, fourteen, fifteen people. 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:09.440 And you know, for for us, that was saying something 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:12.000 because you always catch change people click up, you see 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:14.520 two people here, you see three day, you see one day, 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:17.160 see two day. But for us, when you've seen one 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:20.320 of us nine times out of ten, fourteen other people 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:22.000 about to hit that corner, you know what I'm saying. 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:24.120 So that was that was that was powerful for me, 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:28.240 but my obviously playing in Jersey was like are playing 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:30.280 and sitting in New York and the garden was crazy. 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:32.520 Being from Jersey. My pops was the Knicks fan. I 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:35.040 grew up a Bulls fan. But when I had an 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:37.119 opportunity to come go to New York, I was like, 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:41.760 oh yeah, I gotta do that. Absolutely, that's all. That's all. 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:45.879 You already done your Jersey spiel right now. I told 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:48.639 him I'm take when we were eating lunch. I had to. 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:52.119 But because tell them, tell them all in as a 0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:54.560 Jersey we always get the love as far as hip 0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:57.040 hop and life in New York and West Coast, and 0:21:57.240 --> 0:21:59.600 the vibe is always alive in Jersey. Always feel like 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:01.760 we gotta right for it. You know, we don't get 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:03.760 the problems as far as so many people have said. 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:05.840 But as far as anybody that I see, you know 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:08.280 how to introduced myself and to make it right. But 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:10.960 but as far as um an athlete coming out of 0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:13.600 high school and touching back to hip hop, what was 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:16.880 your music? What was your your influence your soundtrack of 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:18.879 how did you get going to who you are and 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:21.560 what you are? Man, I'll never forget it. My my 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:24.480 coming out party was my sophomore year. I was playing 0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:28.760 football at the time, and they put what years is 0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:36.080 just this is two thousand two to two thousand one. 0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:46.760