1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and it's Drink chas motherfucking podcast. Mason, 3 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: he's a legendary Queen's rapper. He's like Green is your 4 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: boy in or he's a Miami hippop pioneer d J E. 5 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: F N. Together they drink it up with some of 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional podcast. And 7 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: your number one swords for drunk drink every day is 8 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: New year' z for Drink Champs. Drink up. Mother. Let 9 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: me tell how probably am and you you got a 10 00:00:51,479 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: night deal Jordan Jordan Animal at deal craon. So it 11 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: described to people who who who's living under the rock, 12 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: what exactly is do you you do? We a legend 13 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: that we already send you from Queens were doing like 14 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: the behind the scenes. It's not behind the scenes, um, 15 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: but just described to people. You know what's going on 16 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: in you're like the man. So I'm a professional BMX 17 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: athletes ride bikes, jumping over everything, manuel and popping Willie's 18 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: all those things, bro, and I took that from just 19 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: a love and a hobby and turned into a career. Wow, 20 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: I've been pro for fifteen years man, you start writing, Um, 21 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: I started riding when I was about four years old, 22 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: but I started taking BMX serious around like twelve years 23 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: old and I turned pro eighteen. So how does the 24 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: person in turn pro like from people that's sitting around 25 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: riding a bike right now and um just having fun, 26 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: how do they How does a person that's that's doing 27 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: that say, you know what, I could make money off it? 28 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: And I could I could be doing what nig was doing, right, 29 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: So two different ways to go about it. Um, you 30 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: can rideing like the traditional contests, compete and whatnot. Or 31 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: you could just be doing your thing outside like video 32 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: social media, social like huge rollings to it and um 33 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: you'll find different companies or companies will find you haven't 34 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: check out, you know, and if you're worthy, if it's right, 35 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: the opportunity to makes sense, it's sign you up. Right? 36 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: So then how does how does one not only get 37 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: UM via max uh like staff, but then you got um, 38 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: let's pump about all eight don't go to bask me help? 39 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah the nine hole man? Yeah? Oh yeah, 40 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: how you are God for too? Now I keep my 41 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: head with the vibs. So how do you how does it. 42 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: How does a person um even like you know, because 43 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: like I said, you said, you got Jordan Jordan's Uh 44 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: you know, I remember Jordan's like first athlete he ever 45 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: endorsed with Derek Jeter, right, so didn't he endorsed you? Like? 46 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: How the elder is that I got my Jordas right now? 47 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: Like you know what, how does that I got my 48 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: gold Cup? Tomario to man, you know what's going on? 49 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: I don't really see Wait a minute, I took it off. 50 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: I had to give my life together. But that's real quick. 51 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: That's that's the main way to to to generate revenue 52 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: if you're like a bike rider, if you're a skater 53 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: or server, like endorsement deals, right, endorsement deals, and then 54 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: you create your own to create your own brand. Um, 55 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: you compete in contests, especially nowadays man, with like social media, 56 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: there's so many different ways to go about it. Like 57 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: it's really like the wild wild Western sense if you 58 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: can make it your own. This is what I've been 59 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: doing my entire career. How did you get to call 60 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: with Jordan's care What did they say? So? So listen, 61 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: So when I turned pro right, Um, I turned from 62 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: eighteen and I got signed to Dave Mirra. So for 63 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: those of you who don't know who Dave Marry is, 64 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: Dave Marry is like the Jordans of b he know 65 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like he's the guy father. He's the 66 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: biggest bmxed rout of all time. In my opinion, God 67 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: rested Dell, you know what I mean, Like he's right 68 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: but the soul and all that. So he signed me 69 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: when I was eighteen, and I got signed to Nike 70 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: a couple of months later. So like when I turned pro, 71 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: was like in a very like kind of like President 72 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: way right, it was like like, damn, we're signed to 73 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: Mirraco Bikes and you signed to Nike. So I've been 74 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: on Nanke for a very long time. I'm both recently 75 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: I signed from UM I switched from Nike to Jordan Brand. 76 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: It's been like about a year ago, so it's it's 77 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: been It's been amazing to go cross category and a 78 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: brand like that, you know, I mean, right, has has 79 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: Do you feel that representation has changed from black and 80 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: brown in this space because before, back in the days 81 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: you look back, it wasn't there because you got so 82 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: many kids from the hood. Now can be because looking 83 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: at it like, Okay, I can do this now too, right, 84 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: you feel me? Like even for real, like you know, 85 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,559 Speaker 1: I'm so glad that I'm affiliated with Parrele. But even 86 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: back then, like he was, he was presenting like the skateboard, 87 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: the BMX type of thing and people weren't ignoring him. 88 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: Back now, that wasn't cool, But that's because I think 89 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: there was a lack of Like I was a little skater, 90 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: market was the only skater that that was Latinos that 91 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: I was like, yo, he's doing it. There was only 92 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: like one or two a handful, right see. But nowadays 93 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 1: with like social media, now everyone has access to because 94 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: we want skate parks everywhere, Like people can put their 95 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: content out and they're not confined to having to wait 96 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: for the big brand to come find you, right, I 97 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: mean like now it's like, Okay, I'm gonna put my 98 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: content out and I'm gonna make it mine and I 99 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: can create my merch. But if I need to do now, 100 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: that's that's that's It's a beautiful thing man to see. 101 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: And then like not only that, I was just so 102 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: proud because it's like coming from Queens, two of our 103 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: biggest brands, that it's so um weighed on us and 104 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: so heavy on us. It's Nike and then it's Moette 105 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: like you a drug dealers, like you know, they've always 106 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: had my wet And I looked and I was just, 107 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, I always see I follow you, obviously appreciate 108 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: and I support you. I'm gonna see you a lot. 109 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: But I'm sitting back and I'm like this, I said, 110 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: this guy really is living the dream of a queen's kid. 111 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: When you have you have a Nike slash Jordan deal 112 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: uh and a Moat deal like, and you're you're doing 113 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: what you actually love to do. I'm mad. I would 114 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: be much man. I mean for you, I'm like, I'm 115 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: still being driving you, still crazy ship with you. You 116 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: still go to the city and you still like hit 117 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: the park. I'm still do the tricks. But my thing is, 118 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: I was sitting there like I'll be like I'll be thinking, 119 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: like you're gonna get hurt. Like I'm like, you know, 120 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: so why do you still do that? Is that something 121 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: you have to do to keep keep your skills shop? 122 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, Like I still love riding my bicycle 123 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like this is what 124 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: got me here. Like I was out riding yesterday. I 125 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: was in front of the FTX arena, like look at 126 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: my right now. Oh god blood, I was out there 127 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: getting busy yesterday. So wherever I'm at, like my bike 128 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: is usually with me. What's it to your point? Right, 129 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: like when you said like the whole nikee thing and 130 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: like the my wet thing. I remember like being a 131 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: kid in the hood, like growing up in Laurelton, like 132 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: pull them to the stoop and like the older heads 133 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: was out there following my wet chilling fresh like fresh 134 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: nankee fit on, you know what I mean. So I'm 135 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: just following tradition in the sense you feel me like, 136 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's crazy, what is so much of a 137 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: queeze thing? I felt like that was a part of 138 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: the outfit. Like yeah, I feel like you know, I 139 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: can say that now because because Jake doing business with 140 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: web Scott, you know what I mean. But yeah, like 141 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: what was really like it's really like even to now, 142 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: Like yesterday, I was drinking my wet right missively and 143 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: it really like I promise you I hate this time. 144 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: I got alcoholic, but it takes like regular cool aid, 145 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: you know, like you're not used to it. I was 146 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: so used to it and it's like it's going right 147 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: back to drinking cool it. But how is that? Like 148 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like like it's crazy, right, 149 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: So I think it was junior This year I went 150 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: out to Paris and fashion. Yeah, I was out there 151 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: doing that and my way invited me to the Chateau 152 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: out and that was the vibe because they brought me 153 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: to the sellers. But you have to see the process 154 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: of how they bottle, how they store, how they aged them, 155 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: put them a web, you know what I mean. And 156 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: then he had this amazing like chateau was like ten bedrooms, 157 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: marble everywhere and chandeliers like wow. So they had this 158 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: entire experience which is so crazy man. So it's again 159 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: to think about it like being a kid riding around 160 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: my hood watching like the older cast and the hustlers 161 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: like top of my wed or being a club whatever 162 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: the case is. Get to work with a brand like that. 163 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: And now France like actually bombing with with that Brandon building. 164 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: It's in a cluble opportunity, you know what I mean. 165 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: And your passion got to there, you didn't have to 166 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: do something else to It's crazy. Yes, come on, come down, down. 167 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: Come on, come on, come on, couple boy. I hate that. 168 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: I hate to immediately ask my phone somebody phone man, 169 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: hate to immediately ask both of y'all this question. What's up? 170 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: But it's a hot topic right now, and people are 171 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: saying that two of our gods in hip hop, Oh, 172 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: come on now, are not relevant. I told her, I 173 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: think the word relevance is being used the wrong way 174 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: to be. I can answer that very easily, but I 175 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: want to. I want to. I want to start with you. 176 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: But you walked in. They're saying that, I don't know how. 177 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of understood what Booty was trying 178 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: to say. You know, you already know. It's not that 179 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: you can't. The word jay Z and relevance is gonna 180 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: always be, you know, to me hand in hand. So 181 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: he's definitely relevant because what he does with the culture 182 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: when he constant moves, but for me not definitely not 183 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: He's doing his non stop too, just exactly, so both 184 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: of them definitely relevant to me right now. You come on, 185 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, we're sitting here drinking space, you know 186 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: what I mean. I feel like Dream Chance is one 187 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: of the biggest shows in the world right now. You 188 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So we're here doing that here 189 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: and then nazis queens man, so like, I mean, come on, 190 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: you're dropping an album, dropping music, like how could we 191 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: how can we sit here and say it's not I'll 192 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: answer the question like this, right in different people's worlds, 193 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: relevance like and like, listen, right now, I can go 194 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: to a Jamaican concert right and there might be thirty 195 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: thousand people saying that Norma's not relevant, right because I'm 196 00:10:50,200 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: not saying blood Clode exactly. You know, I don't not 197 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: to make it back. I don't know where you love 198 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: the yard, you know what I'm saying. But what I'm 199 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: trying to say is they would say, if I was 200 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: to drop my old music, let's say that's not relevant 201 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: right now, right, So they're they're right, they're right, right. 202 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: So but then in my world, maybe this reggae artist 203 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: is old school regular artists that it's still relevant and 204 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: therefore it's not what are you still listening to my 205 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: my school hookie parties. It's not what I'm listening to now. 206 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: So the word relevant is only relevant to people who 207 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: find relevant relevant. It's very specifically, it's very specific, Like 208 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: some people were making that conversation about music specific Yeah, 209 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: you can have that specific to generational, like youth versus this. 210 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But relevance, come on, it's 211 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: kind of it's we gotta redefine it right now. Like 212 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: right now, some people say Britney Spears not relevant. I say, 213 00:11:54,200 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: if Britty Spears come on, drink chance, we're gonna kill that. Man. 214 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: You know what's just for me? I think it's about 215 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: explosion man, Like everyone, I feel like nowadays because you 216 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: can follow who you want to follow on social media, 217 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: like your world's find that too white important? You know, 218 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: I you know, what you find important doesn't mean that 219 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: something else is not important. But I think it's all 220 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: based down to and you know, Boosty is my friend. 221 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: But it's like if he was to find the young 222 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: kid and queens right now, just a random young kid 223 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: and queens, and you will say it's Boosey relevant. I 224 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: bet you that kid and queens would not say he 225 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: is because that kid in Queens listen to two whoever 226 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: whoever is hot at that moment, and maybe he might 227 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: agree with you. And you know, I will never come 228 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: at Boosey. But um, and that's just really what it is, man, 229 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: it's just like you know, I think it was here 230 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: is a booty made that statement, and he was like 231 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: where he is. His circuit that he's doing as well, 232 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: the clubs that he's performing a very specific so it's yeah, 233 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: he's like, you're not relevant there. I would never be 234 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: relevant there. Honestly, my style of music, you know, he 235 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: prob whatever it is wouldn't play necessarily in those venues anywhere. 236 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: So of course you would believe I'm not relevant because 237 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: we don't play necessarily at the same venue as well. 238 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: What well, to me, they're both relevant to me. I 239 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: still look up to them what they did as far 240 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: as business, as far as music, as far as artistry, 241 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: I always look up to them. But I will never 242 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: deny the fact that m Boost it's his own version 243 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: of jay Z. I will never defined the fact that 244 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: it's only version of No talked about this. Yeah, we 245 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: relevant over talking about but the fact was that everything 246 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: is very finitely he says, everything is like very detailed 247 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: to what you're watching when you're looking. Truth funny, relevancy 248 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: is irrelevant to me because the fact that you could 249 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: be I know artists that like m when the sound 250 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: club ship was popping, and there was artists that had 251 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: millions and millions of followers. They're doing festivals. You asked 252 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: the average like head like hip hop. He let's say 253 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: you asked me. You know this, are never heard of him. 254 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: But this artist here is making millions of dollars. They've 255 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: got million the followers they're doing, they're doing festivals. That's 256 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: in my world. K will never be irrelevant. The world 257 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: that I live in, big will never be irrelevant. But 258 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: to my son, my some bobby doesn't even know who 259 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: Big Dad. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But that's 260 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: actually even more importantly my wife, your tongue, you'll never 261 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: be relevant, like to our like I'm saying, it's all 262 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: that is irrelevant. What I'm saying because to somebody you relevant. 263 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying, yeah, man, there's a lot of good watches 264 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: out here. Man. I was just looking around Judge like 265 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: you know, I judge your years years, you know, it's 266 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: crazy around yesterday and I was like yo, and he 267 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, now you know, now you want to 268 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: wear Richard Mills. It's about ten years ago. I was 269 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: laughing at for a round like this bull. I had 270 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: no idea what I was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 271 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: yeah that guys, what's going on? Trying to make this 272 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: to pop up? Let's go, what do you call u? 273 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: The moon? That you called it? The moon? Come on down? 274 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: You already know man, he's going down. We got motherfucking 275 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: the Holy jay Awsmith build how about you, champion? As 276 00:15:55,080 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: soon as you got to god Ward when um, but 277 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: I gotta asked about this famous place. It's this famous place. 278 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: Everyone thought you was high. You know what flames over 279 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: exactly what you I gotta ask when they did that? 280 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: Though he was locked in, He locked in for the moment. 281 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: The ambitions was there, the passion was there. You wanted it. 282 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: But so he's saying that means you look sorry, no, 283 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: no Flames, don't Hennessy anybody. We don't weak. They had 284 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: nothing to do with Hennessy all week. Nothing to do 285 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: with Hennessy all week. Okay, to explain this play, tell us, 286 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: so what happened was normally in this situation for us, 287 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: the game is close, you get an offensive rebound, we 288 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: get it. That means we get a second chance. We're 289 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: gonna call time out, get the ways organized, get the 290 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: ball back in Brian's so in this case, we got 291 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: the ball, I brought it back. I'm waiting for somebody to, 292 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, called time out of something. So nobody did nothing. 293 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: So I'm all right, bet we're in a good situation. 294 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring the ball back out. It turns out 295 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: what he was, it was in a good situation. But 296 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: it is what it is. When mean, I take that, 297 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: I'll take that far off if that's what it was 298 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: what caused us to lose the series? All right? I 299 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: mean they only had Katie, Steph and Clay and so 300 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: do you miss playing ball? Yeah, of course that's my 301 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: That's my first love. Yeah, that's my passion for sure. 302 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: Coming from from coming from New York, coming from Jersey, 303 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: that upbringing and get into the Big League and then 304 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: moving on to college after your career, how important was 305 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: that to you? Uh? I mean honestly, I thought about 306 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: it a lot like my early years coming into the league, 307 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: Like I was like, I'm always gonna go back and 308 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: get my get my degree and whatever whatever. But you know, 309 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: I mean after year six seven, went straight from high school, 310 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: straight from school, so I after for me, after like 311 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: years six seven, eight nine, and I'm like that ship did, 312 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: like I ain't gone back to school. I'm done, Like 313 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: I mean, my mom even my mom was like, boy, 314 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: you ain't. Don't even worry about I ain't tripping on that. 315 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: So then after like you know, after my career and 316 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: after the ship started getting slow as a hooper, I 317 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: was trying to figure it out. Man, Rayal and hooked 318 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: me up. It was some real knowledge of self and 319 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: being more self aware, and uh, after that was just over. 320 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: I just didn't figure somelf was so dope. Man, that 321 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: was that was so cool because so many, like our youngsters, 322 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: they think that that is the end all be all, 323 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: like you get you, you become a rapper, or you 324 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: become getting the NBA, and then so then our goals 325 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: are so limited. Like like what you did was so honorable, 326 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: Like I always wish I had your number to just 327 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: call you and say how proud to be as a 328 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: community because you made it to where you made it, 329 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: you had you your rings already and then you went 330 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: to college. That was like that was like just like 331 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: so honorable, like like let's just make some noise that again, 332 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: that it's never too late, and like the biggest thing 333 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: for me, like growing up, I never like I was 334 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: I was always an athlete, like it was all to 335 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: me making it out. Was always basketball, football, baseball or 336 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: something like that. So that was my that was my outlets. 337 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: So you know when I catered to that. So I 338 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: cated to that so much I didn't learn how to 339 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: do you know, everything else. Like people people like get 340 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: on me about it, but I've never changed the tire 341 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: on the car. I've had money since I was seventeen, 342 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: so my time I got my first Yeah, like I ain't. 343 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. I really like I called my mother 344 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: when it's time to like, uh, washing my clothes, I 345 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: gotta call my mom's Like I ain't call I have, 346 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: So I paid somebody since I was seventeen eighteen wash 347 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: my shop. I don't know do this so like little 348 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: ship like that, like trade, like trades, and when they 349 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: took trades out of the community, and like we really 350 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: I feel like, especially the black and brown communities where 351 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 1: we really like that because we can't. We stopped working 352 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: with our hands, but stopped being a carpenters, start, stopped 353 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: being construction workers, stopped being so many things that just 354 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: it's a necessive through life opposed just clicking and making 355 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: it seem like anything is easy. Just use them all 356 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: the time. It's a confidence builder from person for sure. 357 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: For sure. What's your favorite team you ever played? For? 358 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: Good question? Favorite team, there's no there's no pressure, there's 359 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: no pressure n C double as man, I need to 360 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: break that barrier actually though. But yeah, favorite team though, 361 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: My favorite team was my Cleveland team, the Chip team. 362 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: Like we was we were sticking Steves. But just on 363 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: that team as well, right yeah, me, Kai, bran Ken Channing, 364 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: r J Sean. I mean we had a crew. It 365 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: was Tristan. We missed that team. Man. Just the bond 366 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: we had as a team was crazy. Like I've never 367 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: I've been on good teams, but I've been on some 368 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: teams that we quote unquote tighten it. But like every 369 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: time we moved around, it was always thirteen, fourteen, fifteen people. 370 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: And you know, for for us, that was saying something 371 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: because you always catch change people click up, you see 372 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: two people here, you see three day, you see one day, 373 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: see two day. But for us, when you've seen one 374 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: of us nine times out of ten, fourteen other people 375 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: about to hit that corner, you know what I'm saying. 376 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: So that was that was that was powerful for me, 377 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: but my obviously playing in Jersey was like are playing 378 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: and sitting in New York and the garden was crazy. 379 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: Being from Jersey. My pops was the Knicks fan. I 380 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: grew up a Bulls fan. But when I had an 381 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: opportunity to come go to New York, I was like, 382 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I gotta do that. Absolutely, that's all. That's all. 383 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: You already done your Jersey spiel right now. I told 384 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: him I'm take when we were eating lunch. I had to. 385 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: But because tell them, tell them all in as a 386 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: Jersey we always get the love as far as hip 387 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: hop and life in New York and West Coast, and 388 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: the vibe is always alive in Jersey. Always feel like 389 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: we gotta right for it. You know, we don't get 390 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: the problems as far as so many people have said. 391 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: But as far as anybody that I see, you know 392 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: how to introduced myself and to make it right. But 393 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: but as far as um an athlete coming out of 394 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: high school and touching back to hip hop, what was 395 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: your music? What was your your influence your soundtrack of 396 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: how did you get going to who you are and 397 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: what you are? Man, I'll never forget it. My my 398 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: coming out party was my sophomore year. I was playing 399 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: football at the time, and they put what years is 400 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: just this is two thousand two to two thousand one. 401 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: Um that flash with my flash anthem and all that coming, bro, 402 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: when you came through the tunnel in the high school, 403 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 1: like that was crazy. We thought it was like we 404 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: thought it was the bulls when you heard that, that's 405 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: what to us. I mean, it was like it was 406 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: you thought we was gonna have a whole fight. And 407 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: it was obviously just a basketball game or just a 408 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,719 Speaker 1: football game, but like coming up, it was for me, 409 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: it was always ax. That was like the first CD 410 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: I ever bought. The first team was on the same 411 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: same Yeah, we was. So we had in Jersey South 412 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: or Central Jersey I call it. We got different like 413 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: people from different sides of the tracks or whatever. So 414 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: we had this crew called the Red Jaft Crew. They 415 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: they thought they was like the Rock And we had 416 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: another crew that was like Deep Block, and I mean 417 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: we had some young named after young I mean it 418 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: was young kids wild en up. But that's how it was. 419 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: And like we was really I mean, we really loved 420 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: music more than anything. Nas obviously noy man, y'all was 421 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: like guys to us. So when I see y'all, I 422 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: mean I paid how much to y'all because yeah, maybe 423 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: were coming up. That's what that's what's amazing. That was 424 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: the motivation. But what was the worst team you ever 425 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: played for? Oh Man, New Orleans. My first ship the 426 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: Warriors New Orleans. We want eighteen games year. We got 427 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: the Hornets at the time. Yeah, the next morning we 428 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: drafted CP. Next first year, it was two thousand four, 429 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: we played out. We want eighteen games. We get a 430 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: lot of repick. Hurricane Katriina happened. We moved to Oklahoma. 431 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: We draft CP, CP come ball out Rookie of the 432 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: Year next year. After that, my third year coming in, 433 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: I get traded to Denver. That I got trade to 434 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: Chicago for a couple of coffee. Then they sent me 435 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: to Denver. When the Denver and Mellow started rocking out 436 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: that first year, that's when I got We got into 437 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: that fight in New York. Yeah, we traded for a court. 438 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: Yeah when Mellow everywhere. Yeah, how do you feel playing 439 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: with a or I love that. I mean, you played 440 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: with a lot of people. There's a lot of experience 441 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: that you have on your boat outside of your own talent, 442 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 1: But how is that going to be your favorite? How 443 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: that chemistry var gotta be your favorite to play with? Yeah, 444 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: Jake kids Kid, Yeah, because like, bro, it's different man. 445 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: And I don't mean there's no district to brown obviously. 446 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: Be like jak was a point guard. You know I'm saying, 447 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: j K jay Kid literally trying to get twenty assists. 448 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: He ain't trying to score nothing. For me. He changed 449 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: my mentality immediately because he told me like, listen, if 450 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: you in better shape than everybody else on this team, 451 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you at least six to eight points 452 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: a game. And I was just like, he was like, listen, 453 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: you know it may not seem like a lot, but 454 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: you get six or eight points just from me a 455 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: game that's not on top of two three, your own hustle. 456 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,719 Speaker 1: We're gonna run some plays for you. You're gonna get 457 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: to the free throw line. But I was just like, 458 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: he like really broke the game down for me, and 459 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: like that's what I was just like, Okay, oh, this 460 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: is how I this is how I go about running 461 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: a second unit or whatever else. And know what I'm saying, 462 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: he really taught me the game. So for me, he 463 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: was probably one of my favorites. And if you could 464 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: do anything over what were you doing or nothing? If 465 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: I could do anything, oh honestly, if I could do 466 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: anything over that fight in New York. Yeah, me and 467 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: Mello got into that fight in New York with Nate 468 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: and um I don't even know du name no more. 469 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: Um she got rip no for real. That's crazy. But 470 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: I feel like because at that time, me and Me 471 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: and Mellow was one of the highest two scoring duos 472 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: in in the UH the team was playing. It was 473 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: in the Western so Mello was averaging like thirty five 474 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: or something like that. He's going to higher scoring. He didn't. 475 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: He didn't make the playoffs. Isaiah Thomas. He just got 476 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: mad because we was running the score up and he 477 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: ain't like George Carls. So they had a whole inner time, 478 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: even we as players, got caught up into some bullshit 479 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: that we had nothing to do with. So but that's 480 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: just the way this should go because me and like 481 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: I said, me and Mellows is one of the highest 482 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: scoring duos in the in the in the league at 483 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: the time, So for me, that's perfect time for me. 484 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: Contract year is about to come up. We talk a 485 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: longevity all right, we're paying duels up like that. That 486 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: plays a major part we trade for AI. I go 487 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: to the bench like ship play out different. But I 488 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: mean I don't look back at it regret. It's just 489 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: like if I could take something away, then now I 490 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: would take that away because for one, that ship costs 491 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: me a ship ton of money on on immediately. But 492 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: just my whole image went down after that, like people 493 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: just started looking at me like, oh, he's a real 494 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: thug like that I'm saying, you know, I mean, he's 495 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: sticking for your team. Man, you know what I'm saying. 496 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: When it's nowadays it's cool for stick up for your teammate, 497 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: but then it's like, okay, you're doing too much or 498 00:27:54,640 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: just then a thirds like all I bet ah, that's 499 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: that's crazy. Um. One of the things that I remember 500 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: the most about you after career wise, I mean, not 501 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: to take nothing away from what you've done, is when 502 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: you made a comment about spending thirty grand in the 503 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: street club instead of helping somebody with with a scholarship 504 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: or doing something to the community. I like, I like 505 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 1: to teuch based on community outside of athletes, and you know, 506 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: in your and your goals. So how was that important 507 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: for you to get to that point where you when 508 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: you said, you know what I could do better, and 509 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm available so I can do better. I mean that's 510 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: for me because I've been on a different program, right, 511 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: I've since walking out of high school. Like I was 512 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: just gifted uh a fame, money, whatever. But the community 513 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: support you anyway, right, the community supported me anyway. But 514 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: for me, it wasn't even. It wasn't about the community. 515 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: It was more I was so focused on me and 516 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: what I had going on. It wasn't even. I wasn't 517 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: because it was all happening so fast. Yeah. That, and 518 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: it wasn't like yeah and that. It wasn't like we 519 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: had people. I didn't have people to like to look 520 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: up to to be like, okay, bet, this is how 521 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: you go about doing that, being a professional doing it. 522 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: We are in a certain type of way. We was 523 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: in a funky era between throwback jerseys, being revaluous towards 524 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: the league and ship like that. So it was like 525 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: my idols was bad boys in the sense you know 526 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, your has Hold up a second, I 527 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: got something to say. Addiction is a treatable disease, but 528 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: finding the right treatment can be overwhelming and confusing. Shadow Proof, 529 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,719 Speaker 1: a national nonprofit, is here to help without judgment. At 530 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: shadow Proof, their goals to help you find addiction care 531 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: that meets your needs and leads to better health and 532 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: long term recovery. 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Again, get help today by visiting shatterproof dot org. 538 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: A I she zebo like those type dudes like because 539 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: to me, like I'm not going to suck a coat, 540 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: what I got to say just to make a book? 541 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: So if you to me, those are always the realist ones. 542 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: So I always attracted to people who kept it real, 543 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: like we ain't gonna bullshit, You ain't gonna I mean, 544 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and say X, Y and 545 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: Z just for product of your environment. You say, do 546 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: you say missing college was it was a bad thing? 547 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: Or like didn't help you mature growing into that part 548 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: of the culture with being rebellious. I would say yes 549 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: and no, but it's all it's all dependent on the 550 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: right situation, you know what I'm saying, Like everybody don't 551 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: have the same experiences when they go to college. Some 552 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: people just even get the more baby than cater to 553 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: even even more, you know what I'm saying. So honestly, 554 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: if you're depending on the situation, I think it every 555 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: it emoted you any kind of way. But for me, 556 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm glad I did what I did because I got 557 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: to learn then a sack like I got to I 558 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: got to do what I wanted to do anyway faster, 559 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like my boys went to school, 560 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: they went to school, they went to school three or 561 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: four years, play in the league to three years, three 562 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: or four years, and then't out the league. Like bro, 563 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: I've been in the league this whole time and played 564 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,479 Speaker 1: another five six like you know what I'm saying, Like 565 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: I ain't I ain't had to go to no bullshits 566 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: some coach talking about all because you ain't make the 567 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: running around the track in a certain amount of time, 568 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: or you're not gonna play this or that or playing 569 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: some weird games and ship like I ain't got time 570 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: for that. Like cold college coaches from one they got 571 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: too much power, you know what I'm saying. And I 572 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: feel like for me, Yeah for sure, bro, because they 573 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: control every thing. Like now that you like, these dudes 574 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: starting to get bread, now it's gonna be a little 575 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: different because they're throwing like you got some weight, right, 576 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,479 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you gotta think like if 577 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: I'm a quarterback at Alabama and I'm getting three mill 578 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: off of some n I l ship, like, I gotta 579 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: brown some more say around this ship NIX saveming like, 580 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: don't give me no disrespect. You all who you are, 581 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: but you're not just about to be talking to me 582 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: and treat me any kind of way. Now, you know 583 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: the gatekeeper to get to that, right, Like yeah, Like 584 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: they really look like they're the gatekeeper. They treat they 585 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: treat players like that. I've been in Louisville and I've 586 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: seen Patinot talk to some of these people crazy, you 587 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I like, and he's a great coach, 588 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but I've seen these people talk 589 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: to people crazy and he and he navigates his way 590 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: out of right back. Yeah, I mean, but anyway outside 591 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: of that. So, so being that you're now, would you 592 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: go back to like the Big three, would you still 593 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: stay active in the sports sense? Or how do you 594 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: feel about your own you know being for me personally, 595 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't play in the Big three the same thing, 596 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: just speak just because it's not the same as what 597 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm accustomed to, you know what I'm saying, Like it's 598 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: not like I'm a five on five dude, Like I'm 599 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm full caught, like I'm a who like three yar 600 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: three and all that's like a workout for me that 601 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: we do that to like staying in shape and stuff 602 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: like that. So for me, it's just not as appealing 603 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: as what I'm accustomed for my other than my last year, 604 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: what five years, four years I've been in I played 605 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: in the finals, well out of six out of five 606 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: years of my last year of my career was in 607 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: the finals. What I'm saying like for real, but you 608 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: know what, But it's funny because and I've seen Draymond 609 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: say this the other day on one of his shows, 610 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: like it's hard to like people is getting after him 611 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: because it was like hard for him to get up 612 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: for certain games like bro, are you four and sixties 613 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: something and you just came from five straight finals? Just 614 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: hard to get up for the game. You know what 615 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Let alone, you're already getting paid X, Y 616 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: and Z, Like that's just hard to keep that thirst 617 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: and whatever. But yeah, man, like that, I let a 618 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: game and I let her play. But for me, I 619 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: get more joy out of it just going to the 620 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: me and going to the wreck and go, yeah, your 621 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: own preference, yeah, pick up like because then at that 622 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: point I could be me like I A. I'm not 623 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: going into the situation where like, listen, man, you shoot 624 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: corner threes like you men that he gets thirty, give 625 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: him the ball, like, listen, bro, I ain't. I ain't 626 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: here for that. I'm thirties seven years old. Brother, who 627 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: I would go, who? So this is this and everybody 628 00:34:54,680 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: in the NBA burns? But but is it true or 629 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: is it not? I'm sure not everybody. Yeah, I mean 630 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: it's like anything, everybody will do it because I like 631 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: some people, it's just not good for some people, you 632 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like some people like alcohol, just 633 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: not good for them. I mean some people just can't 634 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: do either one. I mean so, but a lot of 635 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of us do for sure, because 636 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: a lot of for one, a lot of us come 637 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: from the from that community. You know what I'm saying. 638 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: People don't realize, like when you sit there and say, oh, 639 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: a lot of the NBA players smoke, Yeah, a lot 640 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: of us black too, Like a lot of us like 641 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: we come from. I mean, that's how that's our culture, 642 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I don't make us 643 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: wrong or and different, but that's just what we that's 644 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: what we do. You know what I'm saying. Right in 645 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: the bubble, which every which is crazy to me because 646 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: they said all the numbers were so amazing. It's not 647 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: the third alright, cool, But y'all was letting everybody smoke, 648 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because y'all made it so 649 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: crazy for us when we was like we're not during 650 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: my career, like it was the worst thing of him 651 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: if you would have been up with spending five games 652 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: for that ship, you know what I'm saying, Like that's 653 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: for the moral perception or just being professional, like smoking 654 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: weed and just being like you don't know, I got 655 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: I got I felt Yeah. So I was in the 656 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: program for a while and I kept like I was 657 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: failing drug tests like I wasn't. Like people don't realize 658 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 1: like when you got talent first of all, Like for me, 659 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: it's hard for me because I understand the god gift 660 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: given ability that I got from where you're from from 661 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 1: well not only from where I'm from, just in my 662 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: being like mom, like I'm gonna I'm very gifted, Like 663 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: I can. I hate to say it, but I can 664 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: go out here and play damn that scratched golf, go 665 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: play ball and go bold, damn that row three hunted, 666 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: and then like I'm very gifted at this after the 667 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: I can't do none of that people like yeah. So 668 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: like when people like try to underplay, like make it 669 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: seem like you don't know your talent. No, I know 670 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: my talent. You you don't. You're scared of my talent 671 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: because you keep limiting me and all at fascest of 672 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: what I can do. You're just trying to keep throwing 673 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: me in this box. Okay, this, No, I can do this, this, this, this, 674 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: and that I'm six six six, one of the most athletic. 675 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: I can handle the ball I can shoot now. You 676 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: can't sit here and tell me as a basketball player archetype. 677 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: You want to make somebody like my like me. So 678 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: when you people other people just try to limit like, 679 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: oh nah, you didn't play two your abilities, you didn't 680 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 1: do this, you didn't do that, you did that. Listen. 681 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: I did everything I could do within the restrictions that 682 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: they gave me. You want the six man, Yeah, absolutely, 683 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: absolutely not. That's that's that itself is also an achievement 684 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: for being in the league and the lead players, and 685 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 1: there's only a lot of players in a certain amount 686 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,439 Speaker 1: of team coming off the bench playing that role, being 687 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: the leader, being a mentor and a student and winning. Yeah, 688 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,879 Speaker 1: and I suspended a lot of games to people don't 689 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: even realize that ship like like and it's funked up 690 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: because I don't. I don't like to glorify as like 691 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,280 Speaker 1: something I'm proud of, but it's like I was standing 692 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: up for what I believed in. You know what I'm saying, Like, 693 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and let you just treat 694 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: me any kind of way, whether it be coach, player, GM. 695 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk. We're gonna talk like you do you 696 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: like it or you don't, but you're gonna respect the 697 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: fact that I had to say what I had to say. 698 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 1: You're not just gonna get it off on me like that. Well, 699 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: you one of those people that the teams turned to 700 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: or the coaches turned to. Just speaking on that on 701 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: a on on that statement. But were you just out spoken? 702 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: I was. I was more outspoken. We had other dudes 703 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: in there for that, because when it got to me 704 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: it wasn't really that good. Too late, Yeah, it was 705 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: too late, Like it wasn't as healthy for me because 706 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: I didn't really know how to communicate my frustrations at times. 707 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: You look, That's what I'm saying. So missing the college 708 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: part and going straight from high school as a young man, 709 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: that the development it articulate, you feel that that space 710 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: was Now I don't even see. I don't think it's 711 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: that space because again I've seen multiple dudes to go 712 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: to college and still haven't developed that. It's just I 713 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: think it's more development as I think we as the 714 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: culture got to do a better job development as in 715 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: one another. You know what I'm saying to me as 716 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: a as a vet, my job is to make sure 717 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: whoever following me don't do none of the dumb ship 718 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 1: that I did and put them in a better position 719 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: than what I had. You know what I'm saying, That's 720 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: just what a vent is supposed to do. Now, if 721 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: I can't do that, If I didn't do that, then 722 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 1: I then I failed. That's just no efens appoints about it. 723 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So when I see my 724 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: young boys out here going to get a bag, I'm 725 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: proud because I know I did something right. I put 726 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: him in the right direction. He like, I bet you 727 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Whenever he see me, he knows 728 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: for show like yo, good looking bro. You know what 729 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I can't never. I don't never want to 730 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: be in a position when somebody wanted my one of 731 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: my man see me and they you know, worst position, 732 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: like damn with this name. No, I ain't never gonna 733 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: be the case. You see the latest documentary I've seen 734 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 1: bits and pieces of I ain't really you ever thought 735 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: about culture. I'm more I'm more player like, player development. 736 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm not like yeah like I like. I like helping 737 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: players get better at their craft, like all of that 738 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 1: exces and nose and because once you get into that 739 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 1: then it's like it's so much political pieces to the game. 740 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 1: You gotta Okay, this person got to play thirty five minutes. 741 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: This person got to play this time because you gotta 742 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: like it, Na, because you don't like because it's it's 743 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: not coming from the coach. It's not giving you a 744 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: strategic political part of it. You know, it's somebody from 745 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: the from the upper box, like, yo, no, he gotta 746 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,359 Speaker 1: play now he got It's not just the game, yeah 747 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: that early in the career or like later in the career. No, 748 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 1: that's just coaching and coaching period. Like that's just when 749 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: I was with the Knicks, right, this is after me 750 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: winning sixth man and they wanted me to like because 751 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: I would always work out by myself and then my trainer. Yeah, 752 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: even when when I was with the next I would 753 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: always work out by myself because for so long, even 754 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: when I was when I was in New Orleans, when 755 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 1: I was in Denver, when I got to the next, 756 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: all the coaches were always like, why is he doing this? 757 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: So why is he doing that? And why is he 758 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: doing Like for me, I'll practice the shots that I 759 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 1: shoot so for the yeah, and for me, like once 760 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: you start like really believing that ship and I see 761 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: you believing, I'm starting to distance myself because now it's 762 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 1: like you're not even giving me the opportunity of benefit 763 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: of the job to be me. So you know what, 764 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: I'm just nipping in the butt. So I ain't gotta 765 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: worry about trusting you because I already don't, so I 766 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: ain't gotta I mean, so I just alleviate myself from 767 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: the whole situation. But when I was when I was there, 768 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: like it was like, again, why are he doing this? 769 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: Why is he doing that? Why is he doing this? 770 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: So I was like, alright, bet I wanted six man, like, oh, 771 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,399 Speaker 1: now you gotta be around more for again, like young 772 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: guys this and that, we want to see your face 773 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: more or whatever, so get back into it. And it's like, oh, 774 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 1: why are you doing this? And when you like, bro, 775 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 1: like what you want me here for? Like you asked 776 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 1: me to do. You asked me to come around. So 777 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: when I come around you now you want to ask 778 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 1: me what I'm doing? Why am I doing certain things? 779 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: Like don't ask me that. When you see the finished product, 780 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: when we step on the floor, you see eighteen eighteen 781 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 1: five and four, don't worry about how how it got there. 782 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: Just know that it's gonna get there. So is it 783 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: fair to say that you did all alone? Did you 784 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: have any vets? Um and a mari Um and a 785 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: Marie start on my episode, Nor brought up that having 786 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: vets is important in a young man's career. So how 787 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: do you feel, like, who is your vets? And get 788 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: you to that point that you just said doing the 789 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: eight teen five and four that's why I j kid 790 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: Jake Kid when I had j kids. She when I 791 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 1: got to New York and that was like my first No, 792 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: that's like that's big bro, Yeah, like for real? She uh, 793 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: Jay Kid, Kurt Thomas, Marcus can be um Marcus came 794 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: from from Syracuse. Yeah not Syracuse. Um you Massum. We 795 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 1: had my yeah, Andre Miller and Denver, I had Chauncey 796 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: for a minute. But like at that time, certain for me, 797 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: it was hard because and at times I said I 798 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: had bad vets. It's not that I had bad vests. 799 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: I had vests who didn't know how to translate what 800 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: I was going through to get to me, you know 801 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like since sometimes it was telling me 802 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: ship and it was just like they couldn't make it relatable. Yeah, 803 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,760 Speaker 1: they couldn't really make it relatable. They were so old school, 804 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 1: and I mean like when I'm coming I'm seventeen, eighteen 805 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: years old getting drafted, the my vents is thirty six, 806 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: thirty seven years old, like they got kids damn there. 807 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: So it was like it was it was drastic for me, 808 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,919 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I didn't and then 809 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: I wasn't playing like I had a viroun scout who 810 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: coming from pat Riley coaching type style, like who already 811 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 1: don't like young players all that ship, and so I 812 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: didn't play like the first half of the season of 813 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: my rookie years. So I'm like shot shut with school, 814 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 1: Like no, I know, I definitely had to the point 815 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,439 Speaker 1: for the people to say, you ain't just jump because 816 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: you had an opportunity, like you actually said, I could 817 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: have gone school. I could have made for sure because 818 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 1: my team was if I don't went to school, they 819 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: won national championship, Carolina won the chip already, so they 820 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: just add me, we just blow even more about So 821 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: it wouldn't even That's the way I look at it anyway. 822 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: But I mean, is wild man, I'm happy to I'm 823 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: just happy to be here, man, damn absolutely, man, So, 824 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:11,360 Speaker 1: um did you see with Lebron's uh said this morning 825 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 1: about Kyrie? Um was this morning? Yes, Um, I think 826 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: that makes Lebron one of like most prolific athletes, right 827 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,760 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna tell you this, Muhammad Ali was cautious 828 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 1: of what he was saying, and he he actually he 829 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: did it, like Lebron is at the level where he 830 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 1: don't have to even say nothing. Do you agree? Like 831 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 1: what do what do you think he don't have to 832 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,439 Speaker 1: say nothing. No, he got to him, I mean for 833 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 1: us he is saying something that and that's you you know, 834 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: he was just just like yo, what look He's like, 835 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 1: look at this Jerry Jones picture. Um, you guys made 836 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 1: a whole issue about this Kyrie thing, and Kyrie really 837 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 1: didn't really saying I've been crazy already did it was 838 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: supposed to link and say I know who I am. Meanwhile, 839 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:11,320 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones is in the picture with a mob of 840 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,320 Speaker 1: people not letting black students earlier, a mob of of 841 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,760 Speaker 1: of white students not letting a couple of black students 842 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 1: in the school, and no one's bringing that up. That's crazy. No, 843 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 1: it's not even the fact that they did not bring 844 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 1: it up. Bring they brought it up it's just that 845 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 1: they shoved it up slide. But like that's my only thing, 846 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: Like we're only like we're the most forgiving culture there 847 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 1: is or we also nothing can happen because jay Z 848 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,360 Speaker 1: went on reg and I have to cut you up 849 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: with the NFL when he said we don't shine, we 850 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,839 Speaker 1: don't shine shoes no more on the NFL before like 851 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: three years ago about kaeber nag in the whole situation, 852 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: what else can we do? You're right and nothing? And 853 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 1: since then now John Jerry Jones, what else can we do? It? 854 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: It's there, it fell in, It fell in, Oh ship, 855 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 1: you just let my bottom fall in the have a friend? 856 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 1: That was it his fault. I don't know what the 857 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 1: fucking porn at this point, what the fuck good it is? 858 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: But but still good. It's not that it's not being 859 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: brought up that Who can push that up? Man? Let's 860 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 1: be clear. Have you ever worked for a team that 861 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 1: you thought the owner was racist? Really? I'm scared? I 862 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: can I get can I just wint that through Charles Obia? Yeah, Dollar, 863 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. Honestly, I don't know if he's racist. 864 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 1: I think he's just he's so arrogant and locked up 865 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 1: into himself that he just he don't know aboudy like 866 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 1: he fud with the people who I mean who like 867 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 1: literally he person person. Yeah, but it's almost like he 868 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 1: got it. It's the difference he funk with you, unless 869 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 1: you know it's it's levels to this ship. If you 870 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,399 Speaker 1: know I'm up here and you're down here, then you're good. 871 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: And it ain't it ain't got no, it ain't no 872 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:16,879 Speaker 1: color barrier. It's just that's who. Yeah. Nah, some classism, right, Yeah, 873 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: he's more classism what I'm saying. So you're saying the 874 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 1: Denver owner. Nah, Now that's my man. You're cronking him. 875 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 1: That's my man. Um. Yeah, for sure. Where he blew, 876 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: he blew somewhere else. But who do you think was 877 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: a racist owner with a fair opinion? Not like you're 878 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,359 Speaker 1: a cute I don't like. I can't speak on dead people, right? 879 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 1: That a lot though A Nelson? No, no, no, no, no, 880 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 1: you're the owners, right, Yes, then we're not talk about 881 00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 1: the lake, is right? Okay? Yeah, that I ain't gonna lie. 882 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 1: You gotta watch that documentary. I want to watch that 883 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: ship is like it's crazy because that's just crazy. It's 884 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 1: crazy to see the different generations, the different legacies, the 885 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 1: different and I didn't realize because you know, I'm a 886 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 1: New Yorker. For me being an l A fan, just 887 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: I can't even tell nobody that. I can't even like 888 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: it's just I gotta using secret. I gotta Yeah. It 889 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 1: was like I gotta cheer lead to myself, you know 890 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: what I mean. But then watching this ship and I'm like, wow, 891 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 1: it was a real legacy, and yeah, it's it's it's 892 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,760 Speaker 1: it's really dope. What's what's the name of the family, 893 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:43,320 Speaker 1: the the Lakers family, what's the bus? The Boss family? 894 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 1: And you know, we gotta been balling out here. Come 895 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 1: on to change something. There's lett be balling. Come in 896 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,880 Speaker 1: here and that's something. Come on, let's ball in the here. 897 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: What's going on? You know he's gonna have a great 898 00:49:53,520 --> 00:50:03,359 Speaker 1: watch on. Let me check his watch out trans No, No, 899 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 1: he's still staying here. You gotta stand up. I'm losing weight. 900 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 1: But hey man, it's all family coming here. I got 901 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 1: this question for both of y'all. You be careful. What 902 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,919 Speaker 1: the fund are y'all doing here? Why? What is this golf? Golf? Really, 903 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 1: I've never played golf, bro Golf is lit golfer is crazy. 904 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm fully bro I'm about to sell much and play 905 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: golf full time. What yeah, whoever is we're playing? Did 906 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 1: he just say? He just said you about to sell 907 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 1: your jury business and play golf all time? But you 908 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 1: do you don't get paid for playing golf. I made 909 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 1: five million dollars. Actually are playing golf tournament tournaments. I 910 00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 1: got my own clubs. Wow, so you basically went pro 911 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 1: for yourself. No, I'm just doing this bean, I'm saying, 912 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:07,360 Speaker 1: if you're getting sponsorips, you're in the same agency. So 913 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: like we connected, and like we got a TV show 914 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 1: dropping in two months about golf, about the jail you 915 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 1: just me Jr. And Marva and who this tournament? Who put? Okay? 916 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,360 Speaker 1: So all right, subscribe to us the people that was 917 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 1: living under the rock. What is this TV show that 918 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,800 Speaker 1: we know it's about golf? But how did this come together? 919 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 1: You know, golf has been like a traditional game for 920 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,440 Speaker 1: hundreds of years, and it's been like a game that's 921 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 1: kind of been gate kept. I don't even know, I say, 922 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 1: but my folks, you know I'm gonna keep it one 923 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 1: hundred and so, like I think that it was really 924 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 1: important to see and to be quite honest, you know, 925 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you know my story so coming up, I 926 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 1: didn't just get it from white people. I got from 927 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,000 Speaker 1: black people too, because I was in hip hop, I 928 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 1: was in sports and whatever. But there are a lot 929 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 1: of courses. Even ten years ago, country club, they when 930 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 1: let Asians play you only. So with the game now, 931 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,480 Speaker 1: we just wanted different perspectives, him being a pro bowler, 932 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 1: me being you know, ex record executive, to to Jewelry 933 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 1: marb on starting something for everyone. I just felt like 934 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 1: if we got three fathers, three people that kind of 935 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,319 Speaker 1: came from some sort of hip hop culture background, and 936 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 1: three different perspectives of where we are and in the world. 937 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 1: With golf, I think it'd be interesting. I know it's 938 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 1: gonna be interested. What's the name of the show. It's 939 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 1: called Part three, right, okay, And I know that's a 940 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 1: golf term, but I am golf a literate So what 941 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,080 Speaker 1: is a par three? So, of course has so many 942 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,439 Speaker 1: part Basically, let's say eighteen holes here, right, there's gonna 943 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 1: be you know, thirteen fourteen. Par four's, there's gonna be 944 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,879 Speaker 1: two to four. Part five, and they'll probably be two 945 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 1: to four. Part three's. Part three is gonna be a 946 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,440 Speaker 1: shorter hole. Technically on an eighteen hole, it's gonna be 947 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,919 Speaker 1: somewhere between yards to maybe even up to two hin yards. 948 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 1: It's a shorter distance whole, so it means you've got 949 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,520 Speaker 1: three shot to make it in. And if you make 950 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 1: three shots, that's part three. Right, you get parted for 951 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,799 Speaker 1: the course or a part for the whole. So far 952 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,800 Speaker 1: the numbers how many shots you get? Right? Yeah? Okay, 953 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 1: now then give you parts like the even if you 954 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: get shoot part. You're doing really good now JR. No, 955 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 1: I ain't. Yeah, I'm like a one for the course. 956 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 1: Now we know what it getting drunk and just come on. 957 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:32,959 Speaker 1: Everybody I know loves golf, golf tournament, but you gotta 958 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 1: drink the whole part or whatever. That's what I'm saying. 959 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,240 Speaker 1: You just come out and hit a couple of shots 960 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 1: outside smoke, chill, The environment is good. You can play 961 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,040 Speaker 1: music if you want. So this is it's chill for me. 962 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm must say, we just a guards ye see, 963 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 1: and then um shouts robbed all my daft dogs. Yeah 964 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 1: he took all dolls. Hey, I signed up for it. 965 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,800 Speaker 1: Off is changing now I'm saying more people get involved 966 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, even like the people out there with dregs, 967 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,919 Speaker 1: I he has ready just come him off. But i'man 968 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 1: east Side golf shout to Easide Golf. They got to actually, 969 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 1: you know they have black owned golf brand. They're out 970 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 1: there doing Jordan class. Where is that stay from Atlanta? Atlanta? 971 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 1: How about the l A? Is there a black owned 972 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 1: golf course in the l A. I don't think it's 973 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 1: a black owned golf course in America. Maybe I don't know. Yeah, 974 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 1: the golf course. How about My Bad Girl plenty three? 975 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:36,400 Speaker 1: And he has a couple of spots here, gatch I 976 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,960 Speaker 1: watched Curb Your Enthusiasm, and in Curb Your Enthusiasm, they 977 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 1: had an Asian golf course in l A. Is that true? 978 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 1: There's a couple of Asian golf courses here here in Miami. 979 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,879 Speaker 1: In Miami, I don't know you's in l A. Larry 980 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:53,840 Speaker 1: David's coach is my coach? Action Rondale Barrio shot the 981 00:54:53,920 --> 00:55:01,280 Speaker 1: round Cuban Cuban, be don't tell Spanish Cuban. I'm maybe 982 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 1: I'm kill you don't turn them. So there was a 983 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,719 Speaker 1: rumor that you made the very first Rockefeller changes. That 984 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:19,880 Speaker 1: true or no? Um no, Uh, that ain't true, you know. 985 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,960 Speaker 1: Obviously I made a lot of them, um, But the 986 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:28,480 Speaker 1: first one was Manny Rest in Peace, Manny from the District. 987 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:34,239 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Tito was the first one my battle, you know, man, 988 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,279 Speaker 1: you don't think I mind the computer. Come on, man, 989 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm you know Mannie made. Tito made the first one. 990 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,879 Speaker 1: Jacob made a few after, and then m Chris Ayre, 991 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 1: who I would love to see around because I think 992 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,920 Speaker 1: there need be more black jewelers in the game, especially 993 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,839 Speaker 1: in this world, especially when you're talking about hip hop. 994 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 1: It's weird how um And I don't care because half 995 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,400 Speaker 1: my family is Jewish, but it is really a diamond 996 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 1: game is controlled mostly by you know, by a lot 997 00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 1: of Jewish people and stuff and everything. And I don't 998 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,680 Speaker 1: have an issue you. But Chris Sarah was literally the 999 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 1: biggest jeweler in the world, you know, I'm saying, the 1000 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,440 Speaker 1: ice man, and he was making all the rolls good joints. 1001 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,880 Speaker 1: And then Dame lost a bet to me, so he 1002 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,959 Speaker 1: had to give me his one or three rods school 1003 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 1: Rock Chain. I had by o G Rock Chain still obviously, 1004 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,839 Speaker 1: but I made a bunch of them, and I make 1005 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:21,759 Speaker 1: the Rock Nation ones too. But yeah, it's real ship 1006 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 1: right here. It's real shure right here, that's real ship. 1007 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,880 Speaker 1: So so basically when I'm leaving from both of y'alls 1008 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,920 Speaker 1: that I gotta start playing golf for sure. And I 1009 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:38,440 Speaker 1: could drink. It's not like, are you good? They got 1010 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:44,360 Speaker 1: a person, have a long girl that dresses nice and 1011 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,759 Speaker 1: bring the alcohol to you. We drink chains on the 1012 00:56:49,960 --> 00:57:00,480 Speaker 1: we're here right right. I was scared. It's golf face. 1013 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,480 Speaker 1: Every year invites me to a tournament where they give 1014 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 1: us a hundred and fifty thousands. It's not Dredney, it's um, 1015 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 1: it's like like whatever. Like it's like it's like the 1016 00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,719 Speaker 1: travel and all this crazy shit. And I downplay it 1017 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 1: every year because they said you have to know how 1018 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 1: to play golf and I don't, but I'm gonna do it. 1019 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 1: I heard he nice too. Yeah, And it's that is 1020 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,200 Speaker 1: that a pleasure for you like after you were tired, 1021 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 1: because I mean, I mean you spoke about it earlier 1022 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 1: about you know, the thrill of you were just walking 1023 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 1: through and you're saying that golf is one of those 1024 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 1: pleasures for you. Yeah, for sure? What your lords? Who 1025 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 1: the hell put you on the golf Moses Malone arrest 1026 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,240 Speaker 1: in peace. Yeah, I think mos of Malone. Man. I 1027 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 1: was playing that uh with chart Lewis's golf out in Houston. 1028 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,480 Speaker 1: His first foundation event was a golf out, and I 1029 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 1: was just riding around mess with people kind of like this, 1030 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,320 Speaker 1: drinking and smoking and ship mess with the car girls. 1031 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 1: And he was a man, young feller. You talking all 1032 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 1: this ship because people was hitting in the woods. Ain't 1033 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,960 Speaker 1: all over this place. Fella, Come here this ball. You're 1034 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 1: talking all this ship. Come here this bro, I get 1035 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,440 Speaker 1: up there. Showed me how to hold this ship, like 1036 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,560 Speaker 1: all right, like this is like yeah, I hate that ship. 1037 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,800 Speaker 1: Three hundre yards down the fairway. Let's man sh easy 1038 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 1: then talking ship, go back around, drinking, smoking the ship. 1039 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 1: Come back on this group like an hour and a 1040 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 1: half later. You beat me like three hundred your mother, 1041 00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 1: you can't do it again. You can't do it again. 1042 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 1: He telling everybody, I get up that, but she can't 1043 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 1: hit the ball. I'm gonna get this ship and I've 1044 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:29,360 Speaker 1: been hook that shins. So Adam saying the story. You 1045 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 1: can't walk being humble because we got Tiger Woods with 1046 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 1: our agency, the best golfers in the world with our agency, 1047 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 1: right and I played with JR. And I played with 1048 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 1: some of the best people on earth and played my 1049 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 1: first p J problem last month that I've seen the 1050 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 1: best in the world. P n G. I play yesterday. 1051 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 1: This motherfucker hitting the ball just as far as p 1052 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,240 Speaker 1: J players. And you played in the PJ played. What 1053 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,400 Speaker 1: happened to you get invited to play in the PGA. 1054 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,000 Speaker 1: Either you're a billionaire and you pay to play. Oh 1055 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 1: you could pay the play in the I'm like nobody. 1056 00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 1: I'm just saying people can or you get Then they 1057 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,439 Speaker 1: asked you and I got invited in Japan. They yeah, 1058 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna You're donna trust us. Why you're either 1059 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 1: your course just sticking there? Oh no, no, man, he 1060 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 1: a lot of dude. He'll be ready at the point 1061 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna hand somebody. I was like that when I 1062 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:27,560 Speaker 1: was the kids. I was my man, don't trust nothing 1063 00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,439 Speaker 1: at all. Man. I don't know what kind of drink. 1064 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of fucking was that called 1065 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:39,200 Speaker 1: drink chance repetation. We got you're good over here, brother, 1066 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:47,680 Speaker 1: and we're drinking that that that motherfucking space. So glad 1067 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm worthy to drink it. Man. And I've been watching 1068 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,480 Speaker 1: some people just ain't allowed to drink. Oh yeah, yeah, 1069 00:59:52,520 --> 01:00:01,480 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. The what you finish you do? Say? Did 1070 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:07,800 Speaker 1: you finish you do? Set rank next us? We got 1071 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 1: the delimitate. I need some more man. Yeah, And we 1072 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 1: got to be talking about yeah because because I don't 1073 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 1: know where the car was. I have my air pods 1074 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,080 Speaker 1: on my medicine and there I was like, oh God, 1075 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,040 Speaker 1: now let me ask you something. Uh been baller Um 1076 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 1: and jay Um are y'all out here for art for 1077 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 1: a basil? I'm not here for golf, bro, I'm not 1078 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 1: for art. To one of my friends as good as 1079 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 1: a young he's not young, but black painter Alonzo Adams, 1080 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,280 Speaker 1: he made a piece for me. We are ancestors while 1081 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,360 Speaker 1: the Dreams and you know, he makes a lot of 1082 01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,120 Speaker 1: great pieces, makeing a lot of black art golf pieces 1083 01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 1: as well. So I'm coming to see this show. Was 1084 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:53,600 Speaker 1: seeing something of this with I'm not really sure. Honestly, 1085 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 1: I wish. I wish I'd be a better promotion for him. 1086 01:00:55,840 --> 01:01:01,919 Speaker 1: I could have from Jersey to even so he said, 1087 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:03,840 Speaker 1: don't get you from Miami too, Bro, I just wanted 1088 01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 1: to he could only go he's from Calli, He's from 1089 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:15,880 Speaker 1: New York. Now we did Cally baby amazing, nothing wrong 1090 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:20,760 Speaker 1: with I was born. Were fighting, We're fighting. We're always 1091 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 1: trying to get ours, you know. But when you said 1092 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,120 Speaker 1: we all our wildest ancestors, that's want to be the 1093 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:30,680 Speaker 1: greatest um slogans. Let's not it's not movement. How do 1094 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,240 Speaker 1: you feel about that we are our wildest ancestor dreams? 1095 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,480 Speaker 1: To me, it means a lot, because like when I 1096 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,000 Speaker 1: think about my grandparents and I think about my mine, 1097 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 1: the lineage that I was fortunate to come through. Man 1098 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 1: I come from. My grandmother had eleven children and so 1099 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,160 Speaker 1: unfortunately too passed away. So I got a nine answered 1100 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 1: uncles and my my father's the oldest boy. Throughout my siblings. 1101 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,400 Speaker 1: The majority of my are start my my answered uncles. 1102 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 1: Person has them there for the five kids from that 1103 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 1: fort to five kids one or old throughout that each 1104 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 1: individual within that has at least two to three or 1105 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 1: four kids. So my cousin's family and you know what 1106 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that's where I come from. So when 1107 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,200 Speaker 1: we do events and ship like that, like I actually 1108 01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,080 Speaker 1: see it now, like I see me having kids, my 1109 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 1: daughters fourteen five to fourteen year olds, five and four. 1110 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:31,320 Speaker 1: Like I remember at that point in age being fourteen 1111 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,480 Speaker 1: years old seeing my uncle's and seeing my dad around 1112 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 1: my age, you know what I'm saying. So it's all 1113 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 1: it all started hitting to me when I started thinking 1114 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 1: about my grandparents, like damn, where was they at? What 1115 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 1: was they doing at this point when they was thirty five, 1116 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,280 Speaker 1: thirty six, thirty seven years So? What was they going through? Then? 1117 01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:48,400 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I don't think about some 1118 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,280 Speaker 1: of the ship that I'm so fortunate to be complaining about. Now, 1119 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,080 Speaker 1: what was they fighting for just as I mean, just 1120 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,600 Speaker 1: to walk down the street without being sped on whatever 1121 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,360 Speaker 1: whatever I'm saying. I think about that, and I was like, 1122 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,240 Speaker 1: my uh, I think about how fortunate and blessed I 1123 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,960 Speaker 1: am to continuously do ship that mattered me something to 1124 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 1: people to where my at least my grandparents and people 1125 01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 1: even you know, further than that, it's connected to me 1126 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,080 Speaker 1: a better lineage going forward, you know what I'm saying, 1127 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,520 Speaker 1: Because we all came from you know, especially if black 1128 01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,760 Speaker 1: and brown, he came from some type of l to 1129 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,280 Speaker 1: get to where we at right now. And for that 1130 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 1: for them, people who were sacrificed, and for all the 1131 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,560 Speaker 1: way die. Whether you came over on the boat or 1132 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 1: he was already here, you went through that bullshit to 1133 01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,240 Speaker 1: be able to steal, you know, come up to where 1134 01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,920 Speaker 1: we are now. Ship. That's a blessing in disguise, if 1135 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:44,439 Speaker 1: if it was the orders Alonzo Adam. Yeah. Great about 1136 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:46,760 Speaker 1: like one thing I learned on this plane trip over 1137 01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,960 Speaker 1: here and talking to him because we're both sponsored. I'm 1138 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,120 Speaker 1: sponsored by major golf brands for billions of dollars. The 1139 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,720 Speaker 1: first thing he had mentioned to me about the whole sponsorship. 1140 01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,480 Speaker 1: He a huge advocate for putting He want to put 1141 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,840 Speaker 1: golf in a good because if you think about it, right, 1142 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people out there just don't They probably 1143 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,520 Speaker 1: have the physical athletic ability, absolutely, just don't have the resources. 1144 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:10,960 Speaker 1: I don't think it's cool. Don't think what I'm saying, 1145 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,480 Speaker 1: because that's the first thing. Well, that's access. If you 1146 01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,600 Speaker 1: don't have access, you you're not gonna think cool at all. 1147 01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,400 Speaker 1: And I had a thing I kind of could have 1148 01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,440 Speaker 1: had access, right, but I mean like I was like, man, 1149 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 1: no bitches, yeah, yeah, for sure, ain't nobody and you know, 1150 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,480 Speaker 1: pussy playing absolutely you know. And so once I figured 1151 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:26,840 Speaker 1: it out, I was like, well, First of all, I'm married, 1152 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,080 Speaker 1: so I don't care about that no more. But we 1153 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 1: came out here. I had a reason. I rest in 1154 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,560 Speaker 1: peace Virgils event last night to go see my man 1155 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,320 Speaker 1: and bris usually come out here, but I've been coming 1156 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,120 Speaker 1: to Miami for the last thirty years since. How can 1157 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 1: I be downs way back? I've been homing out here 1158 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,840 Speaker 1: and everything right, So like coming out here now just 1159 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,520 Speaker 1: vibe with gr yesterday I'm about to buy a creep here. 1160 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,400 Speaker 1: Now there you go. You're late. You should have been 1161 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:53,360 Speaker 1: welcome home. I mean, how used to fly here just 1162 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,560 Speaker 1: to fighting? Yeah, we've been here. How used to like 1163 01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 1: just to go to Porthago? You know what I'm saying? 1164 01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:02,400 Speaker 1: Just yeah, we was there yesterday. So we need a 1165 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,840 Speaker 1: gold community. We need to gold class. But that goes 1166 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 1: from Hispanics and and let's and everything. It's just it's 1167 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,640 Speaker 1: not accessible. I just had that. I just hit the ball. 1168 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,560 Speaker 1: I just hit a part with none. I had a 1169 01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,840 Speaker 1: part none. I don't think. I don't think he did that. 1170 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,120 Speaker 1: It went you know, I don't know if I can't 1171 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:22,880 Speaker 1: remember the name, but I can't remember his name, but 1172 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 1: the CEO of MARB Stephen, he sent me up. He said, 1173 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 1: you want to hit the ball. I said, I've never 1174 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 1: hit it before. He did not hit the ball. I said, 1175 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,760 Speaker 1: do you have anything in your pockets? He said no. 1176 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,120 Speaker 1: I said, okay, hold my phone in my wallet, like 1177 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,479 Speaker 1: I'm shimp ship right. And I hit that ball about 1178 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,840 Speaker 1: forty ft and I was like, get my phone water back, 1179 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,560 Speaker 1: but shout out to Stephen and he sent me up 1180 01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,800 Speaker 1: with people's people's. I mean, look, I love it out here. 1181 01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,320 Speaker 1: I've always loved it out here. I used to have 1182 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,600 Speaker 1: a check out here for a lot of Dale shout. 1183 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:52,000 Speaker 1: They always say that count without married. I'm just saying, like, 1184 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:53,880 Speaker 1: I just love the vibe out here. To air something 1185 01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,919 Speaker 1: about it out here, that's amazing for sure. One time, 1186 01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,200 Speaker 1: I forget what team it was, but y'all was at 1187 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 1: Club Live and y'all were surrounded by your own teammates 1188 01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,520 Speaker 1: and this is like, this is an ill moment because 1189 01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,080 Speaker 1: they was like, yo, we knew that that y'all were there, 1190 01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:18,800 Speaker 1: but y'all wasn't taking pictures. You remember what I'm talking about? What? What? What? What? What? 1191 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,760 Speaker 1: Because I forget it wasn't what team was, this was nixt. 1192 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:26,280 Speaker 1: This is because you were with Lebron this night are 1193 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,880 Speaker 1: you talking It's Cleveland that it was that Club Live 1194 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,640 Speaker 1: and y'all, y'all came and I think, y'all, I think 1195 01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,640 Speaker 1: I forget when it was, but it was like an 1196 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:38,320 Speaker 1: important game. And they said none of the capitalists taking 1197 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:42,360 Speaker 1: no pictures, and they just still he was there the 1198 01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,120 Speaker 1: next day. It was the next day and they went 1199 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,000 Speaker 1: to Club Lift, and I swear to god, it was 1200 01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:51,880 Speaker 1: like I always wanted to ask you this because there's 1201 01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:56,040 Speaker 1: always these weird stories about Tom Brady and you know, 1202 01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:00,280 Speaker 1: these elite athletes that make they hold me just do 1203 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:04,400 Speaker 1: some crazy ship Derrek and all this. Yeah, and it 1204 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,040 Speaker 1: was one of these NICs. It was like yo and yeah. 1205 01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,400 Speaker 1: It was all in the circle and Club Lift, and 1206 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,880 Speaker 1: I loved and I was brought to and there's like, no, 1207 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 1: they said, no one's taking pictures. So I said, oh ship. 1208 01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:19,240 Speaker 1: I just sat back and I swear I think it 1209 01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,680 Speaker 1: was the Capitalist. It could have been a Lakers too, 1210 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:29,280 Speaker 1: I'm being honest, you're laughing, like so, I always thought 1211 01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,400 Speaker 1: this was like this this crazy ship because they like, 1212 01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:37,360 Speaker 1: I spee to Tom Brady, he's like um teammates and 1213 01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,120 Speaker 1: they'd be like, yeah, Tom made me wake up at 1214 01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,520 Speaker 1: three thirty in the morning, hazy like some hazy ship. 1215 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:46,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make your break. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, 1216 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:51,960 Speaker 1: but you know what I'm talking like fifteen different stories 1217 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,600 Speaker 1: from there because for the Kobe ship. Um, but she's 1218 01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:59,560 Speaker 1: like it's that how it is sometimes right, Just I 1219 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,840 Speaker 1: loved that though, Like it's it's crazy, Like that's what 1220 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:06,520 Speaker 1: I missed the most, like ship, like the brotherhood of 1221 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,600 Speaker 1: it all, you know what I'm saying, Like you get 1222 01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,480 Speaker 1: the because when you you were, you out there with 1223 01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,520 Speaker 1: them more than you with your kids. Like I know 1224 01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,519 Speaker 1: these dudes more than like my my extion now but 1225 01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:20,840 Speaker 1: me and my wife at the time, but I knew 1226 01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:22,479 Speaker 1: I knew them better than I knew how to you 1227 01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like I'm with y'all every single day, 1228 01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,439 Speaker 1: Like we go to go to your room. I'm going 1229 01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:28,960 Speaker 1: to morroom with two or three in the morning, Like 1230 01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,200 Speaker 1: we're waking up. You know, we're gonna get coffee, We're 1231 01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,800 Speaker 1: gonna do We're gonna eat like nah, stop and that 1232 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,479 Speaker 1: ship really builds up. It's any of the really builds 1233 01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,519 Speaker 1: a bound with with people or just really like spending 1234 01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,439 Speaker 1: too much time people like ye, your energy you can 1235 01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:49,599 Speaker 1: go that way. You know what I'm saying the same, Yeah, 1236 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:52,920 Speaker 1: you want the subway in New York and with clear 1237 01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:57,439 Speaker 1: I've convinced them to take this up. Yeah, because I 1238 01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,160 Speaker 1: was trying to get back to the room. Bro, they 1239 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 1: with the whole team walking into the subway in New York. Yeah, 1240 01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,719 Speaker 1: because they don't understand, like where you're taking the bus 1241 01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,720 Speaker 1: in the city like this is. First of all, were 1242 01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,640 Speaker 1: staying a way uptown when we got to go back downtown. 1243 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,240 Speaker 1: Then when we then for the game, we're gonna have 1244 01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,680 Speaker 1: to go back downtown and then go all the way 1245 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,760 Speaker 1: across town to get to get to E w R. 1246 01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,040 Speaker 1: What we're doing all is traveling for five minutes to 1247 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:27,120 Speaker 1: get on the track over there. Like na, Bro, they're 1248 01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:30,240 Speaker 1: gonna start tripping. They're gonna trip anyway you take the train. 1249 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,479 Speaker 1: They're just gonna say, you're a regular person at one 1250 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:38,160 Speaker 1: point in time in your life. Now six ft five 1251 01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:42,840 Speaker 1: dudes won't get into the six eight six seven place, 1252 01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,560 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, yall did it first, or maybe and 1253 01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,320 Speaker 1: he did it after. I'm not sure. I think he 1254 01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,040 Speaker 1: did it. He did it first. It was dope because 1255 01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,320 Speaker 1: he was sitting next to the old girl. Really didn't 1256 01:09:53,360 --> 01:10:01,200 Speaker 1: know who he was. Oh my god, I gotta be 1257 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,120 Speaker 1: a larious further further, look at y'all, y'all make that 1258 01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:09,439 Speaker 1: moment to contact Lebron little way you're laughing, and she's like, y'all, 1259 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,800 Speaker 1: it's crazy because you really think, like to me, like, man, 1260 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,880 Speaker 1: everybody noticed my and so the few people in the 1261 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:22,920 Speaker 1: world don't just be like, yo, you're serious. That's crazy. 1262 01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:27,360 Speaker 1: It's fine. You've played against joining Nah in golf, yeah, 1263 01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,160 Speaker 1: but not on the court. Yeah. That was a nice 1264 01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:35,360 Speaker 1: floss too. Yeah, No, I ain't no fuss. He kicked 1265 01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:39,400 Speaker 1: my eye. Ain't golf. Yeah. You've played Againstcopie in the game. 1266 01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,760 Speaker 1: In the game, yeah, dustin me. He got me. So 1267 01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:45,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you a funny story about Cope. Right. 1268 01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,960 Speaker 1: So Byron Scott is my coach my rookie year, and 1269 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:52,599 Speaker 1: Byron Scott like he meantor code coming up and mean 1270 01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:58,920 Speaker 1: that was like o G So yeah, so we shoot 1271 01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:02,519 Speaker 1: around and David we had practice one day and then 1272 01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,200 Speaker 1: we played on the next night. So they all day long. Man, listen, 1273 01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:06,840 Speaker 1: you gotta stay down on the pump fake. That's in 1274 01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:10,639 Speaker 1: the thurs day on the pump fake all day shoot 1275 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:16,240 Speaker 1: around day before the game like all day long, down, 1276 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:21,080 Speaker 1: stay down on this pump fake. So again, I'm eighteen 1277 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,160 Speaker 1: checking in the game. It's cold. I'm still like, damn, 1278 01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,800 Speaker 1: it's cold, like you know, I mean, I still got 1279 01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:30,240 Speaker 1: to like not legitis, but like, oh ship, but you eighteen, 1280 01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,960 Speaker 1: he only been in the table, like he's been in 1281 01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,360 Speaker 1: the league a couple of years. If you're coming in 1282 01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 1: after him now, cod was like nine ten years when 1283 01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,519 Speaker 1: I when you came in, yeah he was yeah, yeah, 1284 01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:45,519 Speaker 1: he was longer than that. Damn yeah. So uh of course, 1285 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,479 Speaker 1: as soon as you get the ball to dribbles, right, 1286 01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:55,840 Speaker 1: pump fake, I jumped foul him and one knock it down. Bro, 1287 01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:59,559 Speaker 1: when I tell you this ship happened and like probably 1288 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:03,680 Speaker 1: all of of eighteen seconds, I think they just got 1289 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,000 Speaker 1: the ball up kicking toners. Like the first literally the 1290 01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:09,120 Speaker 1: first play from when I checked into the game. Acts 1291 01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,559 Speaker 1: took me right out. It was like that most young 1292 01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,920 Speaker 1: boys ship I've ever seen in my life. I was 1293 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,960 Speaker 1: just like, but it's crazy because like, if you know, 1294 01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:23,639 Speaker 1: cool playing against him, his shot face like he going, 1295 01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,920 Speaker 1: you know he's shooting this ship. Oh he should fuck 1296 01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,439 Speaker 1: then you gotta file him. You just can't let him 1297 01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:37,360 Speaker 1: get the shout off. It's like Fund was that dude. 1298 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:41,040 Speaker 1: He was that dude for real, but now been born. 1299 01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,880 Speaker 1: Let me ask you what the fund is the problem 1300 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:48,720 Speaker 1: with you and Jim Jones? How the job? Man? That 1301 01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,760 Speaker 1: was some bullshit from academics. Bro, that he's that's me 1302 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:55,240 Speaker 1: and Jim is good. I loved Jim. Bro, that's that's beautiful. 1303 01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,599 Speaker 1: That's my dog. Bro. I have been around since set 1304 01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:02,280 Speaker 1: dates like being it's good. Jimmy. Hit me up, Hey man, 1305 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm in you know Asia here, help me get into 1306 01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,160 Speaker 1: just this Japanese ARTI ship me and Jim is good. 1307 01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,599 Speaker 1: We ain't gonna beet it. So what the deity happened? 1308 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,320 Speaker 1: He was showing a picture of some doing some pull 1309 01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,760 Speaker 1: up something and I trowed his page. I was like, yeah, man, 1310 01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:16,080 Speaker 1: you can stopped being scared of me. I heard you 1311 01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:17,920 Speaker 1: can't walk through hard on or some ship. Man. I'm 1312 01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,120 Speaker 1: here waiting for you. I'm on one too. Fit was 1313 01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,160 Speaker 1: good and he was like it's nothing. We just he 1314 01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:25,439 Speaker 1: started kind of sucking around back. Meanwhile, me and him 1315 01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:29,599 Speaker 1: about to go meet up his day. So academics made 1316 01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,240 Speaker 1: it seem like it was some drama, some beat for 1317 01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:35,799 Speaker 1: some ship. DJ academics. Yeah, but so so. People actually 1318 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,360 Speaker 1: were hitting me up like, hey, man, if you really 1319 01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:38,680 Speaker 1: got I got some people, go go get him. I 1320 01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,400 Speaker 1: was like, the fuck you talk, girl, that's my dog, 1321 01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:44,439 Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna be I'm gonna beat with nobody. Didn't 1322 01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:47,559 Speaker 1: your troll dream chams early on beausewarn you told us 1323 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:56,120 Speaker 1: at one point and then I did, uh Captain Jack, right, 1324 01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:57,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that, like, yo, let's do 1325 01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:58,560 Speaker 1: this thing. And I know I'm supposed to come on 1326 01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:00,960 Speaker 1: the show. I just don't really we love you over here, 1327 01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,519 Speaker 1: you know. I mean I know I love you know, 1328 01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:08,360 Speaker 1: I know you know, but I love saying to your 1329 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,840 Speaker 1: face we love you know. In fact, he had a 1330 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:12,360 Speaker 1: phone call we had because we had to straighten it down. 1331 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:18,080 Speaker 1: We had yeah Twitter exchange, right, yeah, it's beautiful. I 1332 01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,800 Speaker 1: remember that. It was beautiful. It was beautiful and I'm 1333 01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:22,640 Speaker 1: not tripping m I would tell you the truth if 1334 01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,519 Speaker 1: I was. If anything, yeah, maybe I inst to get 1335 01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,080 Speaker 1: him up, but it was like I gotta love, like 1336 01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,360 Speaker 1: I would't even be up here by that same same 1337 01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:33,679 Speaker 1: with us. That's all we is. Love combats love cause 1338 01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:37,320 Speaker 1: too much energy for the average man. Yes man, and 1339 01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:41,680 Speaker 1: and you know, and I'm extremely you know, proud of 1340 01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, because I see it's just the rocket fell 1341 01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:48,080 Speaker 1: of days um and to where you at and I've 1342 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,200 Speaker 1: seen you from the beginning to where you guys are, 1343 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,760 Speaker 1: and it's just beautiful, man. Like that's what all of 1344 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:59,439 Speaker 1: it is. We spread love, positive energy and and love God. 1345 01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:04,400 Speaker 1: And I appreciate you saying we don't but the sun 1346 01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,519 Speaker 1: is coming out and saying it, I'm gonna start playing 1347 01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:12,479 Speaker 1: golf because golf has brought I don't know why there, Yeah, 1348 01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:17,639 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know, but man, thank 1349 01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,639 Speaker 1: you guys, man, both of you guys. And it's always 1350 01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:29,200 Speaker 1: let's make some noise for that man. 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