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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge. We have breaking news. I see

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Speaker 1: it come across the ticker. I see it right now. Wow,

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Speaker 1: this is a whopper. The Ravens have traded offensive tackle

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Speaker 1: or Lando Brown Junior to the Kansas City Chiefs, pending

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Speaker 1: the passing of a physical big moves on a Friday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Huge ramifications. This means, first and foremost that I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be doing a lot more minkering with my seven round

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Speaker 1: draft for first round picks. Let's not lie here. First

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Speaker 1: and foremost, this means that you've got to work a

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Speaker 1: full day on a Friday for the first time in years. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean this delayed happy hour. That's the first thing

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Speaker 1: I got. I got my kid tugging all my pants

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Speaker 1: right now. It's supposed to be Friday afternoon, supposed to

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Speaker 1: having a beer. Sweetie, Eric's Cossa had other ideas of

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Speaker 1: mine when you were trying to sneak out the door

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Speaker 1: for a happy hour and made this train. So it's

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Speaker 1: definitely exciting. End of the week. This is uh, can

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Speaker 1: I just you know I'm gonna put you on blast

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Speaker 1: because that's my favorite thing to do. I told you

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Speaker 1: earlier in the day, I said the Ravens are gonna

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Speaker 1: trade Orlando. I thought I was gonna happen. I've been

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Speaker 1: saying all along that I ultimately think it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: And you say, not trading, not gonna happen. Don't see

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Speaker 1: it happen. I did not. I'll give you credit. I

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Speaker 1: did not think it was gonna happen. Uh. In typical

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Speaker 1: mink fashion, At first I thought it was. At first

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Speaker 1: I thought it wasn't. And then, like I started, the

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Speaker 1: rumors started kind of heating up, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I think it is. And then and then I was like, no,

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Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen. And here we go. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what. I'll give Eric to Costa some credit here,

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Speaker 1: a lot of credit, because everybody in the world knew

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Speaker 1: that or Landy Brown Jr. Was not going to be

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Speaker 1: with the Ravens for the long term. Right. The Ravens

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Speaker 1: did not have a whole lot of leverage in this situation.

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Speaker 1: They played it pretty darn well, saying, hey, we're totally

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Speaker 1: comfortable keeping you know, a Pro Bowl right tackle or

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl tackle. I shouldn't say right right, he's now

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Speaker 1: a left tackle. Um a Pro Bowl tackle here for

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Speaker 1: another year and then what ever, take the comp pick, uh,

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Speaker 1: presumably a third round com pick, but you never know. Instead,

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Speaker 1: you know, without leverage, he moves up. And I think

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Speaker 1: this is probably the best way to frame what the

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Speaker 1: Ravens got is they moved. They took their second round

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Speaker 1: pick and moved up twenty seven spots with that pick

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Speaker 1: to the first round. Right, So they converted a late

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Speaker 1: rounder into a late first rounder, and they got up

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Speaker 1: a third and a fourth and a five, and they

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Speaker 1: only gave up a sixth. Right, So it's Orlando Brown

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Speaker 1: in a sixth to move up into the first round

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Speaker 1: and you get extra third, fourth, and fifth. The other

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Speaker 1: thing pretty good, I think, is just this goes to

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Speaker 1: show you why the Ravens front office does things so well.

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Speaker 1: They drafted Orlando Brown is the third round pick back,

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Speaker 1: and every other team got scared off, had a bad combine.

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Speaker 1: His first round talent but bad combine, so everyone's passing

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Speaker 1: on him. Ravens take him in the third round, two

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Speaker 1: time ro bowler, does everything right, and then they swap

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Speaker 1: him for that and then you move, and they were

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Speaker 1: comfortable with, just like you said, allowing him to play

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Speaker 1: out that deal and then get the third round comp

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Speaker 1: and then basically get it for four years and then

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Speaker 1: you get what you put into it. But instead you

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Speaker 1: then trade that rather than have one more year of Orlando,

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Speaker 1: you trade that for a first round pick and the

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Speaker 1: and the rest. Obviously, that is that's tough to do.

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Speaker 1: That's tough to do at a time when everyone knows

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Speaker 1: that he's requested a trade very publicly. You're not catching

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Speaker 1: anybody by surprise, So kudos. I honestly do think that

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Speaker 1: this is this is the case of a win win.

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Speaker 1: You don't always see that in trades. But the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs get the win win win, to be honest,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens we just talked about that. The Chiefs get

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Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl offensive tackle, which I don't like. I

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Speaker 1: don't like them getting great players. Where where the heck

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Speaker 1: did the Chiefs keep getting money? By the way, because

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Speaker 1: they have I mean, now they have to pay or Landa.

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Speaker 1: So that's the other thing. It's not just that you

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Speaker 1: maybe they don't trade, Maybe they don't pay him yet.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they make him play out this year. I would

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Speaker 1: It's a win for Orlando because he gets his opportunity

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Speaker 1: him and play and left tackle was really important in

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Speaker 1: that family. And so this isn't just about a guy

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Speaker 1: who wants to get a bigger payday. This is something

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Speaker 1: And so as tough as it is to lose him,

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Speaker 1: I can understand his desire to do that and he

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Speaker 1: for for wanting to do that, maximize his potential and

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Speaker 1: live up to his father's legacy. I don't fault to anybody.

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Speaker 1: I don't fault the you know, and obviously not the

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Speaker 1: Ravens for trading him. You know they they Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: agree totally to win, win win for everybody. Involved. Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't like the Chiefs getting better. They just got

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Speaker 1: a really good player and a great guy who we

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Speaker 1: really enjoyed covering uh here for the past three seasons.

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Speaker 1: So I don't like that, you know what I do like?

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Speaker 1: So now, so now the Ravens have these two first

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Speaker 1: a pass rusher. You know we've been talking about, do

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Speaker 1: they take a pass rusher an offensive lineman, or to

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Speaker 1: take a watch receiver and offensive lineman. Now that could

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Speaker 1: be both, um, so they could they could take they

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Speaker 1: that's the other thing that's that you need consider here.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens can potentially replace Orlando with a high caliber

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Speaker 1: you're gonna really need to be very frugal. After you're

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Speaker 1: on his second contract, and and that's obviously what you hope.

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Speaker 1: That's the ideal for a first round pick, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: they're cheap and really good, so uh, I think stockpiling

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have some more compics next year. So they're

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Speaker 1: really restocking the cupboard in a big way. And just

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Speaker 1: real quick, um, before we because this is an interview

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Speaker 1: that we have with Joe Ortiz. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: we recorded the interview with Joe about ninety minutes before

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Speaker 1: this trade went down on a Friday afternoon, so you'll

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Speaker 1: notice when we get into the interview with him, we

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Speaker 1: we had to re record this open afterwards because obviously

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Speaker 1: there was some big news that we wanted to address. Um.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of how the Ravens use these picks,

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Speaker 1: like they could go a lot of different directions. I

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Speaker 1: Tevin Jenkins. And he was now, well, now, yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: now you're on my guy, Tevin Jenkins. I had seven regardless,

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Speaker 1: I think if I think if Tevin Jenkins is there

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Speaker 1: or or you know, it could be you knows, Quitty

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Speaker 1: that exists here is, as we've seen, Tacosta loves to maneuver,

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Speaker 1: make both those first? Wait? Wait? Wait, yeah, wait, hold on,

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Speaker 1: let's just say the Ravens love DeVonta Smiths. They love him.

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Speaker 1: They love him, they love him, they love him, and

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Speaker 1: we've everyone knows how the Ravens love to accumulate picks

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Speaker 1: and and that's no surprise. But I do think that

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Speaker 1: there is potential if they want to do that, also

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Speaker 1: with having these extra pics in the middle of ten.

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Speaker 1: But we we just got talking about how they need

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Speaker 1: more young talented players on rookie contracts. Sure, yeah, DeVonta

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Speaker 1: Smith is a pretty good one. He's a pretty good

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Speaker 1: talented young player. Yeah, but but now you're giving up

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Speaker 1: two good young talented players on rookie contracts for one. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That that is it's the less likely scenario if you're

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Speaker 1: just playing it by the book and you're and you're saying, what, well,

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Speaker 1: this is what the Ravens always do. I know, that's

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Speaker 1: what you do. That's the low hanging fruit. That's the

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Speaker 1: low hanging fruit that you always like to predict. And

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Speaker 1: I I just I'll say this, I do not expect

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Speaker 1: our interviews. Make you look very bored right now, Garrett,

427
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 1: you're definitely on edge and Gage, you know, and I'm

428
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 1: like hands everywhere right, so like um, but now, like you,

429
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 1: you can feel the energy from the player when you're

430
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 1: across from a little bit easier. UM. So I would

431
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 1: tell the guys, I'm like, hey, guys, I'm fired up

432
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 1: for this interview. This kids, he's wound up. He's right, Hey,

433
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just feeling his energy right now. So

434
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 1: um and he and it carried forward in the interview

435
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 1: so you could see it. But there's some guys that

436
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 1: you know, you interview on zoom and you guys have them.

437
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure at times like he was kind of a

438
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 1: boring guest. You know, I'm not one of those people,

439
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,920
Speaker 1: but um, you know, but you have some some guests

440
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 1: or some interviews there you're like, well that thinking, I'll

441
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 1: think it a great feel from him. But there's a

442
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,479
Speaker 1: lot of different factors that play into it. He may

443
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,679
Speaker 1: just got done working out. He he may have just

444
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 1: done his third interview of the day three three hours straight.

445
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 1: You get the interview fatigue. You know, we may have

446
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 1: been the thirtieth team to talk to him already. So um,

447
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 1: you gotta take those things into account. What you do

448
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 1: in person too, at the combine the last interview of

449
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 1: the night. A lot of times it's hard on both sides,

450
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: you know, the player and and and the team interviewing them. So, um,

451
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 1: you got a factor in the interview fatigue. M hm.

452
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 1: So all right, So where are we right now in

453
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Speaker 1: this process? We're doing this this interview on Friday, draft

454
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 1: of six days away up Thursday? Is the board done?

455
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: Like where where is the draft woards done? Or where

456
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 1: does it stand? Yeah? So you know, like Jerry says,

457
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 1: Jerry Sandusky says, the hay is in the barn Uh,

458
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 1: pretty much all of the hay is in the barn.

459
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,239
Speaker 1: We just got a three stack. If you bales, you know,

460
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 1: like you know, we may move a couple of bails

461
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 1: from this stack to that, you know. But for the

462
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 1: most part, the board said, there's not gonna be a

463
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,919
Speaker 1: lot of changing with our board from here. Uh to

464
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: the draft we've had. We've had two great rounds and meetings,

465
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Speaker 1: first with just the scouts um at the beginning of March,

466
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 1: and then we brought the coaches in last week, and UM,

467
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: they did a phenomenal job, you know, evaluating the players

468
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 1: that we assigned them and kind of work together with

469
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Speaker 1: the coaches in the scouts to get the guys in

470
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: the best possession for the Ravens. All right, So, Joe,

471
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 1: yesterday we talked to uh NFL network Cynthia Freeland, uh,

472
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Speaker 1: kind of in the analytics field, and she got me

473
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Speaker 1: thinking about more how analytics have played into this year's draft. Uh.

474
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Speaker 1: Can you shed some light on kind of how you

475
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Speaker 1: have used analytics in this year's evaluation of the prospects

476
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Speaker 1: and whether it was increased or different in anyway. Um,

477
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: I'll say this, you know, I mean analytics, it's kind

478
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Speaker 1: of we don't talk about how we scout players the

479
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 1: science behind how we do things. So we use analytics certainly,

480
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Speaker 1: and and and it's obvious, UM, it's discussed in the media. UM.

481
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: And every year we try to grow our use of

482
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 1: analytics and the way we're looking at players, so that

483
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 1: this year hasn't changed, you know, like last year we

484
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 1: do this, this year we add another layer, So we're

485
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: always looking to add layers. I think it's one of

486
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: those parts of scouting that are growing UM. And I

487
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: think our guys to a phenomenal job. Our our analytics

488
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 1: crew did the ore outstanding there. On top of it,

489
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 1: they're coming up with new ideas, new ways to look

490
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: at things, and we're continually Eric is always challenging and

491
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 1: then headed up by David McDonald, he's always challenging everybody.

492
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Speaker 1: And and there's just a really good interaction between our

493
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 1: analytics department within the scouting department, and you know, we

494
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: work together well and there's a lot of dialogue and

495
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: a lot of conversations that go on. And have you

496
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: thought about this? They asked us questions and we asked

497
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: them questions. So it's really good and I think we

498
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 1: worked really well together and I think it helps improve

499
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 1: us as scouts and hopefully our ideas and our thoughts

500
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Speaker 1: help improve them in in new roles. Mhm, So real

501
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: quick before we jump into some specific questions about guys

502
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: who I want to ask you about. Do you think

503
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: that you haven't that your board this year it could

504
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: be more secretive compared to what other teams would expect.

505
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: I know that in the past few years, and we

506
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: talked about analytics, Like in the past few years, there's

507
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: when we've done these conversations that you guys have said

508
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: some things like it seems like the boards across the

509
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: league are often more aligned, maybe because of analytics, maybe

510
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: because there's more and more mock drafts. Yeah, like the

511
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: draft as a thing has just become a much bigger

512
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 1: event all of that. So, but this year, like Cynthia

513
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: pointed out when we talk to her, you know, with

514
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: no combine this year, you couldn't have everyone kind of

515
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: sitting there and Indy saying, oh, what do you think

516
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 1: about this guy? Okay, he looked pretty good, and then

517
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 1: you've got to get the group think that goes on.

518
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: Is your do you feel like your board could be

519
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: different than others? Like there's more uncertainty, is more secretive

520
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: of what you have compared to what anyone else sense. Right, So, like,

521
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: I think what happens is is our board looks like

522
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: other teams boards, right in past years, it's still the same.

523
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: Are they look the same in the sense that we

524
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: have a lot of the same players up in the

525
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: same area, but the boards are different, our stacks are different,

526
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: our rankings of those players are different. That doesn't that's

527
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: not that's right. So, like so maybe a little bit

528
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: of variance this year, but now it's still this. You know,

529
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: you still have tons of media coverage, you still have

530
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, different like you said, tons

531
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: of mock drafts. A lot of people cover the draft boards,

532
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: so the names get out there more. And you know

533
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: these guys that you see rising late, you know, oh

534
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: this guy's a rising, Well no he's not. He's kind

535
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: of been up there all along with the scouts that

536
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: went in in the fall that did him in the fall,

537
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: but he hasn't been talked about as much. So now

538
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: he's talked about more. And so you know, if you

539
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: go all the way back to when Joe Flacco was drafted, Um,

540
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: we had Joe in the first round. Obviously we took

541
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: him in the first round. Um, we had at that

542
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: point when we were down at the Senior Bowl, there

543
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: were one, two, three, four, at least four bad and

544
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: maybe five I think five grades on Joe Flacco in

545
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: in January. Um, there was another team down there that

546
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: didn't have one grade on him because he was a

547
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: small stool guy from Delaware. But that being said, so

548
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: here we go, like Joe, he's an unknown to one team.

549
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: Right to us, he's we got five grades on him,

550
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: But the Senior Bowl knew about him, all right, and

551
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: so now there it's an outside network, right or outside

552
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: platform that introduces Joe. So now next thing, you know,

553
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: Joe's a riser, but he really wasn't rising, so to speak,

554
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: just other teams, other people outside of NFL teams caught

555
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: up to Joe. So um, so I think the boards

556
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: as a whole will be similar. Um again, but there, yeah,

557
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: there may be some a little bit of differences. Uh,

558
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, and obviously once you get past the first round,

559
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: your second rounder is different than my second rounder. In

560
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 1: your third round, you know, you may take a guy

561
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: in the second round and I'm like, wow, you know,

562
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: I just don't see it, and we may take someone

563
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: in the second round where teams like, wow, I don't

564
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: see it, you know. And so, but it's a lot

565
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: of it has to do with uh, you know, organizational fit,

566
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: schematic fit. You know, like a four three pound d tackles.

567
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna have a certain value for us,

568
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: but he doesn't fit in our base package, right, I mean,

569
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: we've got a big baby, We got big guys playing

570
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: up front. We you know, we're not looking for the

571
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: gap shooters. We're looking for the two gappers. So we

572
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,479
Speaker 1: see value in those guys and we may respect their value,

573
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: but they may not be as high as as the

574
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: guy that fits our scheme as much. You know, same

575
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: thing with the zone blocker on the offensive line versus

576
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: the gap scheme. We come off the ball and we

577
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: look the mally empower you. You know. So if you're

578
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 1: one of those super athletics guys that can reach a

579
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: three technique from center or get out from guard and

580
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: get to the seven technique and cut them down, that's

581
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: we acknowledge the talent and we will there's a certain

582
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: point we'll like it, but um, we may not be

583
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: a time on you as some other teams. So right right,

584
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: all right, So let's get into some specific player talk here,

585
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: because we know you're just gonna shoot a straight give

586
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: you give us the fool scouting report, the full grade

587
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: where you have them ranked. Get your big board ready, Joe,

588
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: because here we come. All right. So, the biggest the

589
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: biggest debate, and you were asked about this a little

590
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: bit in the pre draft presser, but I want to see,

591
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: you know, if you elaborate on this. The biggest debate

592
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: Amongst Ravens fans is terroris Marshall Jr. Versus Rashy Bateman everybody.

593
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: You know a lot of different people in each camp.

594
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: Can you tell me how those guys compare and contrast. Yeah,

595
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: one's a little bit bigger. Um, one is a little

596
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: bit faster. Um. They both play inside and outside and

597
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: uh they're pretty good route runners, you know, so no,

598
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: um so. But they they really have followed a similar

599
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: path in the sense that there they kind of were

600
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,479
Speaker 1: outside guys obviously. Uh, Marshall's a little bit bigger, all right,

601
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: and I think he ran a little bit after it

602
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: is pro day. But they're both they both have good

603
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: speed and good size. But Marshall is a bigger receiver. Um.

604
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: But if you watched their career progressions, they both were

605
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: kind of outside guys early on, and then as they

606
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: this year, they got a greater role in the slot.

607
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: So it's hard to really honestly sit here and tell

608
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: you that, hey, how do you compare and contrast? And well,

609
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,959
Speaker 1: one may do one thing better than the other, but

610
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: they both have performed in similar capacities and have had

611
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: similar success in their careers and production. Now Bateman's maybe

612
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: it has a few more catches because he hasn't played

613
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: with his many productive players, UM. But both of them

614
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: have had the ability to play inside and outside UM,

615
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: and and show the ability to succeed inside and outside

616
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: and win at all three levels. So it's it's it's

617
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not trying to get out of the question.

618
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: But they really do have similarities to their games that

619
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: that people see, and that's why they're kind of married together.

620
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: I think in a lot of people's projections that they're

621
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: going to go around the same same range. M hmm.

622
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: Let's little bit was a defense a Z's oil are

623
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: a common cop for him is unique? Goway, do you

624
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: agree with that assessment? Um? You know, I think as

625
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: he's Honestly, it's probably not as not quite the guy

626
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: who burns off the edge of Yoni Um. But that

627
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: athleticism and that versatility. I remember when Yank was coming out,

628
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: which certainly saw pass ruction him um, but there was

629
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: talk about where does he fit? Uh, you know, this

630
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: guy could even be an inside will backer type because

631
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: of his athleticism and speed um, you know, and and

632
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: the way he played as he's probably was a little

633
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: bit more physical, like physical force versus to run on

634
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: the edge and Yonnick was coming out. But both really

635
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: good athletes who can bend on the edge, have sack

636
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: production length to get to the quarterback. But you like

637
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: both of the versatility. So I think that's a that's

638
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: that's not an unfair comparison between the two of them. No, Now,

639
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: you guys traded a third round pick for you unique

640
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: you know, and to you that kind of indicated, okay,

641
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: like the Ravens, we wanted to get one of those

642
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: kind of speed rushers, like we were looking at the

643
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: mahomes Is of the world and the Josh Allen's and

644
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: some of these guys like who do hold the ball

645
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: a little bit longer and look for that kind of

646
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: big play, and we got to get a speed rusher

647
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: off the edge. Now, obviously you lost Unique and Judean.

648
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: You know, do you feel like, hey, that that guy

649
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,959
Speaker 1: who had some big time sack production in college, some speed,

650
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: that speed rusher off the edge. That doesn't have to

651
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: be the biggest guy necessarily, but we need some speed

652
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: off the edge. Do you kind of feel that way

653
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: going into the draft? Um? You know, I certainly speed

654
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: off the edge helps, but I think, um, when you

655
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: look at our outside the backer position, UM, it's important

656
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: for them to be able to play the run as well.

657
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: Um to be a free down outside backer porch right,

658
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: you know, Um, so you've gotta be able to play

659
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: the run. But yeah, certainly you want guys that can

660
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback from wide. The problem with what

661
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: you see in the NFL's quarterbacks aren't holding that ball

662
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: as long anymore, you know. And we we had Unique

663
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: and I don't know how many sacks he had total,

664
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: he had a lot of pressures. Um, But like I

665
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: remember that first game against Ben, I don't think Ben

666
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: held the ball more for more than two seconds any staff.

667
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: I mean, like so, um, teams, I do think teams

668
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: look to get rid of the ball fast against us

669
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: because they know we bring pressure and multiple looks and

670
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: can come from any different angles, so they look to

671
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: just try to get it out quick. Um. But yeah,

672
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: you know you definitely. I mean when you can find

673
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: a guy that gives you some heat off the edge,

674
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: you know, even if it's in a in a sub

675
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: type role, that that's a valuable position. Another pass rusher

676
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: that I want to ask you about. And this guy,

677
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: I think Garrett and I start calling, well, I start

678
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: calling my guys who I'm gonna take in my seven

679
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: round mock draft in like January, right, and the first

680
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: guy that I called among the dozen that I've called

681
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: and told Garrett that he can't take. The first guy

682
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: was QUITTI pay right because I just watched this guy

683
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh man, this guy screams Ravens, Like,

684
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: you know, the way he plays the game, his backstory,

685
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: his physical makeup, like a lot of things scream Ravens

686
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: to me. Can you talk about your evaluation what you

687
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: see with Quitty? Yeah, I mean he's a guy that

688
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: you know when you talk about three down players, that's

689
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: what he can do. He can he can set the

690
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: edge he plays physical versu running. He plays hard. You know,

691
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: you can tell he's been it's it's you know, it's

692
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: in him to just give all he's got. And uh,

693
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: you know he's got some sack production as well. He

694
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: he he can bend the edge. He's got some speed,

695
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: but he can also go through you and and and

696
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: give you some power rush to. So, um, he's a

697
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: good football player, you know, just well rounded in in

698
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: the sense now that they don't drop him much. So

699
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: so like you look at Quidity pay you see a

700
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,239
Speaker 1: defensive end in college. So the whole drop you know,

701
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: I don't you know, I don't know if he's gonna

702
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: be the pals or dropping off picking balls off and

703
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: taking the end zone or you know, or the tigres corner.

704
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: I got tackled on the one against Cleveland, but yeah,

705
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: a play by him, you know. So But yeah, know

706
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: he's a good competitive player, um with with versatility. So

707
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: we're talking seven around mocks. The guy who I am

708
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: most I'm leaning towards and I'm I'm always locked a man,

709
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: I'm percent of the way there is Jalen Phillips, pass

710
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: rusher from Miami, and you know, you we just talked

711
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: about pay. I think the question with both those guys

712
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: is do they make it to twenty seven. I always

713
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: feel like the player who we end up taking in

714
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: the first round is often a guy who, you know,

715
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: Meles got his big board up there and we're picking

716
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: at twenty seven and and he's you know, eightee on

717
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: Meles board and a guy that basically is it's a

718
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: surprise to be there. Jalen Phillips would would be that

719
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. The eighteen on Males board

720
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: this year. I don't know. I don't know exactly where

721
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: he is where he is, but Jeremiah told us he's he's,

722
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: you know, talent wise, the top ten talent and is

723
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: the best pass rusher in the draft um in his mind.

724
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: And so if if Phillips is there and also you

725
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: have a chance to get him, that to me just

726
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: seems like it would be a perfect marriage. But he

727
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: could slide because he has some of the red flags

728
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: on the medical side, you know, we have the concussions

729
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: and retired anyway, what is your what is your assessment

730
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: of him and how do you kind of what do

731
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: you make of his ability as a player along with

732
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: you know, the medical stuff which you gotta factor to

733
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: the equation. Yeah. Well I won't talk about medical because

734
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: hippa and all that. But um, as a player, you know,

735
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: he is a guy that much like Pay, you know

736
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: when when we talk about him, like he's the guy

737
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: one he started U c l A. He came over

738
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: to Miami. Uh he's from Miami, so like you know,

739
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: it's certainly a more an easier fit for him back home.

740
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: But really just blasted onto the scene this year. I

741
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: really just had a great year. Um. And you watched

742
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: him get better each game. You know, you watched him

743
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: become better with his technique. Um. You know in terms

744
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: of playing that run, playing square. You know, early on

745
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: he was a little bit more you call it edgy,

746
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: not you know, right in the tackle chess player tight

747
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: end looking to get an edge, and sometimes you do

748
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: that you give up your gap responsibility. Um, but you

749
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: watch him improve as you went on places much like

750
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: Pay plays physical, plays hard, not afraid to stick his

751
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: hands and face in on guys. Um. And then he

752
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: has the pass rush about you know, he's got size,

753
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: he's got length, and he's got speed. And again with

754
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: both those guys you're talking about two guys that give

755
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: They give really good effort and show a motor and

756
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: competes not just at the point of attack, not just

757
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: as a pass rusher, but if the plays away, they're

758
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: running to the ball, which you know in Baltimore we

759
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: preach and we love you know, so, um, we want

760
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: guys that will run to the ball. What's John's T shirt?

761
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 1: Life is short run to the ball, right, you know? So, um,

762
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,439
Speaker 1: that's what we look for. And guys, you know, guys

763
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: that are gonna play like a raven and both those

764
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: guys they do that. Yeah, and the other pass rushers

765
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: Jason Oway, Yeah, now he's the knock on him. Obviously

766
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: no sacks athlete. So how do you reconcile those things? Well,

767
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 1: you just gotta that's where you watch them. You get

768
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: the coaches involved. You know, hey, what do you see? Um,

769
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: certainly with a guy like him, there's yeah, no sacks.

770
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: He didn't have a sack this year. I think he

771
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: had four and a half last year as a DPR

772
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: Pence they used him as it really is, a situational

773
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: pass rusher last year. This year they had him as

774
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: a three down player and if watched him from last

775
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: year this year you see a guy that got much

776
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: better verse to run, you know, his technique, his pad level, um,

777
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, and that was one of the priorities of

778
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: his you know, he worked on it. He made it

779
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: a goal of his to be a three down player. UM.

780
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 1: And I want to be able to affect the game

781
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: in multiple ways. And he did that. You know, he

782
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: didn't get sacked. Um, he did have a lot of pressures.

783
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: If you watch the Indiana game, he was basically in

784
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 1: the backfield with the quarterback most of the game. Um.

785
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, certainly you gotta finish. But you see the

786
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: athletic tools and in a player like him. But again,

787
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: like the other two guys you mentioned, you can hang

788
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: your hat on the fact that he's gonna play hard

789
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: and he's gonna run to the ball. So like, there's

790
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: things that he has physically that need improvement, you know,

791
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: in terms of technique, but physically he's got things that

792
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 1: you'd love to work with. Yeah, there's so many good

793
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: pass rushers in the series class. It's kind of crazy.

794
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: It helps us out. We're a little bit in the market.

795
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: I would imagine here, Joe, so I wanna Yeah, I

796
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: want to flip things over to the other side the

797
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: trenches though, with the offensive line, and I'll go with

798
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: my guy who I'm taking my seventh round mock in

799
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: the first round, and that's gonna be tackled, Tevin Jenkins,

800
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: all right, So what do you think of him? And

801
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: and please talk him up as much as possible so

802
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: I can sleep at night knowing that that's my pick.

803
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: That's who you're going with in your mock. I think so,

804
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: I think I'm right there. Here's the thing, Joe Make

805
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 1: Make doesn't lock it in until the eleventh hour. He

806
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: wait until we're on the clock and the pick has

807
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 1: turned in before he says, actually, make That's another reason

808
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: why you'll never be picking. And I'll always take it there.

809
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: It'll have his list and they'll know his guy, he'll

810
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: have his order. You'll be building back and forth right

811
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: until we're on the clock. Who the heck you're picking?

812
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it was just dangerous, you know what

813
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: I mean. Our salt. They they want to they want

814
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: to feel confident the guy making a decision for him,

815
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: you know. So you think we're gonna lean to Garrett

816
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: on that one. You know, Um, Devin's a big man,

817
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: like huge, right, and uh, plays really physical. We talk

818
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: about like what we do right we come off the ball,

819
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: we block people, we get after, we drive guys off.

820
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 1: He does those things. He's hard to go around. He's big, wide, long,

821
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: um plays with the physical temperament. So right tackle could

822
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: probably play inside the guards, so he'd like that versatility. Heck,

823
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: he could probably go out. You know, you could play

824
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: left tackle to his you know, so he I think

825
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: he's just athletic enough to just play anywhere. Um and

826
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: uh and again you love the physicality and the temper

827
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: Mini brings. Oh yeah, locking it in, locking it in,

828
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 1: locking locks Luck and lady baby. A couple of guys

829
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: at center. I want we want to ask you about

830
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: Landon Dickerson, Creed Humphrey. What do you make of those two? Yeah,

831
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: it's funny, someone asked me. I think it was Jamison

832
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: asked me about those two yesterday. And now they're different.

833
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: Right Landings three d and what forty pounds and creates

834
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: about three sixteen ish somewhere in there. Um so not

835
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: quite as big, but they're both equally effective at at

836
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: blocking their guy. They do it in different ways. Right

837
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,479
Speaker 1: Landing is coming off just gonna mally a bigger guy

838
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: overpower you. Both highly competitive. Um Creeds a very good technician.

839
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: He gets on guys really fast, works his body around,

840
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: and then he's kind of like that wrestler with just

841
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: the core strength where he just i mean he's just

842
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: grips you and you can't get away, and then he

843
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: just steers you how he wants to go. And then

844
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: you just watch both of them like they work to

845
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,959
Speaker 1: sustain their blocks. Both of them. They it's not about

846
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: hitting a guy and saying you did your job. Now.

847
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: They their their goal is at the end of when

848
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: that whistle blows, they are still locked on their man

849
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: finishing their blocks, are just moving them and pushing them.

850
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: So both great leaders. Um, both take great pride in

851
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: their job, in their roles as the center both you know,

852
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: like making the decisions for the offensive line, Um and

853
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: having the ability to do so well. And then just

854
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: they take in block and so both guys are fun

855
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: to watch, very cool. Now, now, you guys have been

856
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: so good at finding these like late round or undrafted centers,

857
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: I mean Ryan Jensen, Bradley Boseman, Scurro McCarry. You know,

858
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: does your success finding these guys in later rounds have

859
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: any impact on whether you would want to draft one early. Um, No,

860
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: I think you always just want to take really, I mean,

861
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: I know it's cliche, and um, we do try to

862
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: take the best player available, you know, and obviously you know,

863
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: need factors into a degree. Um, but not we're never

864
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: gonna reach on need, you know, like we're never We're never.

865
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: We've never done that, never will. You know, if there's

866
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: a two guys are close, okay, we may need this

867
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: position more over that position, but um, if they're you know,

868
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: if there's a gap, we're gonna take the best player available.

869
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: That's just kind of the way it worked out. You know.

870
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: I think our guys do a great job of understanding

871
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: what plays for us and and finding players at that

872
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: level and take pride in that, you know, our scouts

873
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: and being able to identify labround guys that can not

874
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: only contribute to this team, but can develop into into starters. So, um,

875
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: you go back to Jents and you know, and and

876
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: Matt Scurrow was an undrafted free agent, so like, yeah,

877
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: there's you take pride in that, Um, but that's not

878
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: going to preclude you from taking one one high. I mean,

879
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: we've had plenty of all those years when we took

880
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: those guys, we had centers high on the board that

881
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: those years. It's not like we went into it. It's

882
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: just they they weren't the highest guy when we picked,

883
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: you know. And uh, they may have been gone or

884
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: they weren't high the highest guy when we picked. But

885
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: every year we have centers high on the board. Not

886
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: a lot of them because good centers are hard to find,

887
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: I think, Um, but uh, it's just there's less of

888
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: them on the board. But our guys do a good job.

889
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: And I think the one thing you mentioned Bradley and

890
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: McCarry and Screw, those guys were guards too. You know.

891
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: McCarry was a tackle. Bozeman started as a guard and

892
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: then kicked in the center his last few years. Um,

893
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: Screw played guards like you know, go all the way

894
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: back to you know, Mike Flynn, I think he was

895
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 1: a college tackle. UM. And this was before Mike actually

896
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: was before my time, Um, but he was a college

897
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: tackle at Maine and he went to guard and then

898
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: the center force. So I think which when you look

899
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: at guys, scouts were curious like, hey, I'm looking at

900
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: the tackle. Can this guy snap because he's a tackle

901
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: who's probably not athletic, not long enough to play tackle,

902
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: but he's but he is a good athlete. He can banned,

903
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: he's got some strength, and he's smart, like, has has

904
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: he ever snapped? Can he make? Oh? Yeah, you know

905
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: he works on in practice. He's our emergency center. You

906
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: start hearing those things like, Okay, this guy might be

907
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: a guy that you can develop a center. So I

908
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: think our our scouts do a great job of keeping

909
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: an open mind when they look at offensive line. And

910
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: then you're always trying to find because it's a hard

911
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,439
Speaker 1: position to find in the sense of having someone who

912
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: can snap, you know, so um and make the call.

913
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: So you're always trying to find guys who may not

914
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: play the position, but have the capability to play the position.

915
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: So we're gonna conclude with our favorite game that we

916
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: play with you every year, But I got one more

917
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: before we do that. Okay, to me, this is a

918
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: year where I think that if you're more likely to

919
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: move up, to trade up, and I'm on an island

920
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: on this one. Here we go. He says, this is

921
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: the trade back year because that's the easy route. Because

922
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: everyone says that, of course the Ravens want to add

923
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: picks and trade back. Everyone says that, Um, But I

924
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: also feel like it's just if you want to get

925
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: an impact player that you really like, you's there, you know,

926
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: the same top fifteen, that you would be aggressive. And

927
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: I feel like this is a year that this that

928
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: this could happen. I'm not saying it's definitely gonna happen,

929
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: but I feel like this is more likely to be

930
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: a year that you trade up than trade back. So

931
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: go ahead and tell me. I'm right, Joe, tell him

932
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: he's up as Rocker. I'll say this, Garrett. I guess

933
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: the possibility always exists, right, But it's a good draft.

934
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 1: It's a draft where you want a lot of picks.

935
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: That's a draft where you feel like there's going to

936
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: be a good player when you're picking in the first

937
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: round and in the second round and in the third round.

938
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: So like, um, certainly, I mean we have traded up

939
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 1: in the past. We trade up from Michael or I think, right, Um,

940
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: and then we traded back for Lamar. You know, we

941
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: well we traded now we're nine. Yeah, but what does

942
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: that count? You know? With that? I don't know, I'll

943
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: count Lamar Jackson is a trade up that one worked

944
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: out pretty well, right they did. Yeah, so so far,

945
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: so good. Right. Uh, but no, it's yeah, the possibility

946
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: always exist, but you gotta get a guy who's and

947
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: there's been times where we haven't done it, but there's

948
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: been times where we literally have talked about all right,

949
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: if he gets to so and so, you know the phone,

950
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, we're we're gonna try to make a move up,

951
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: and then he's gone. You know. It's kind of like

952
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: when you talking into existence. Whenever you see a guy

953
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: falling and you mentioned his name, you start getting excited

954
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 1: all the sunn he gets back, you know. So it's

955
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: like it's hard. It's hard because you don't want to

956
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: You want to trade up for our guy that you

957
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: cove it and love, and well some time those guys

958
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: are gone before you even have an opportunity to trade up. So, um, yeah,

959
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: we'll do it. But when we've done it in the past,

960
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: it's not like we've never done it. But it's got

961
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: to be a player that's fallen and the guy that

962
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: he thinks great value strained up. Yeah, definitely sounded like it. Um,

963
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: I got one more before we get into our game too. Um,

964
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: So we didn't talk about wide receivers much. We just

965
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: talked about Marshall and Batement. But you know, Eric made

966
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: some headlines, uh during the pre draft press conference with

967
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: his comment that the Ravens are insulted about kind of

968
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: people saying that we don't have any wide receivers, right,

969
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: So I wanted to get your your take on this, like,

970
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: how do you view that situation and do you think

971
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: that the Ravens assessment of the team's need at wide

972
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: receiver is dress is pretty different from fans assessment of

973
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 1: the Ravens need at wide receiver. Well, yeah, certainly it's

974
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: it's not quite as extreme as the fans desire for

975
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: us to have a wide receiver. Um. You know, I'm

976
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,959
Speaker 1: proud of the young guys we got on this team,

977
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, I mean and we got we got two

978
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: third year receivers, two second year receivers who have shown

979
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: the ability to help impact some games and make big

980
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: plays in games. They just may not have the consistency

981
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: or the historical production yet. Um, but I know Hollywood

982
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: made big plays for us the past two years, and

983
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: I know Miles has made some clutch plays for us,

984
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: and do Rene and James. Now, you guys haven't seen

985
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: a lot of James because you know, we had we

986
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: had Willie and you know, in in the slot, and

987
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: but you will come out here and watching and practice

988
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: and he just he's constantly working. He catches everything he

989
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: gets open. Um. Just a really good feeling. Devon obviously

990
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 1: shown versatility with returning and then that speed outside. And

991
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: so you know, none of these guys had an off

992
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,959
Speaker 1: season last year. He had. He had rookies that came

993
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: in that lost the whole off season. Um. And then

994
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: you had second year guys last year they you know

995
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: what the rookies there, everything's going so fast. Okay, I'm

996
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: gonna have my off season going into my second year.

997
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: It helps slow things down, and then of course it

998
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 1: gets canceled due to COVID. So UM, you know, I

999
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: I feel good about where they're at and and their

1000
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: potential to grow even more. Um. But I also understand

1001
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 1: the fans frustration that, hey, we need an impact player,

1002
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: perceived impact player out there, and uh, and we're always

1003
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: trying to do it. You know, we're always trying to

1004
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: find that guy, whether it's through the draft or in

1005
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: free agency or if somebody gets cut. I mean, you know,

1006
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: we've benefited from from getting some pretty good free agents

1007
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: in the past, you know, or trades like an Ang

1008
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: Kuan Um, like a Steve Smith, Derek Mason. You know.

1009
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: So we've had some really good players out there. We

1010
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: just haven't taken one, you know. Uh, we haven't drafted

1011
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: a pro bowler, you know, and yeah, you know that's that,

1012
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: it is what it is. But you know, we're looking

1013
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: for guys that can help us out at the position. Alrighty,

1014
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: so let's get into our game. You guys have a

1015
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: shot this year. No All Star games, no combine. I'm

1016
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: a big. I'm a big put a put a body

1017
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,479
Speaker 1: in a face to you know, be able to see

1018
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: the guy move around, burn him into my mind. So

1019
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: you guys have a shot. We may have to edit

1020
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: this part out, all right. So this is called who's

1021
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 1: that prospect? Okay, al right? First name is Ryan new Zeal,

1022
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: Ryan new Zeal. How do you spell the last name?

1023
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: And E you z I L n e U z

1024
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 1: I L. Yeah, man, I'll give you a clue. Draft

1025
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: eligible Daniel Jeremiah is gonna be very upset if you

1026
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: don't get this guy. Alright, So hold on, now, you're

1027
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 1: helping me because all right, that's the app State guard, right, yeah,

1028
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: you got him. Yeah, under undersized guy. He's under size.

1029
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: He's six, like six two six two and a half. Uh,

1030
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: it's like three pounder. He did, he did. He's got

1031
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: good speed. Um. Not the ideal fit for an offensive

1032
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: lineman for us, like we're talking about. But yeah, okay,

1033
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: this is where not now. So this is a guy

1034
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: that would have been at one of the All Star Games,

1035
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: you know. So they oh yeah he was. You know

1036
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: you see the helmet. Oh yeah, he's the guard that

1037
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: was at the East West or the NFL p A

1038
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, it took a little off for

1039
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: that one. All right, this could be hard. You may

1040
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: have to give me some clues on these guys. Named

1041
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: number two is Garrett Grosschek, Jesus god, oh Joe. This

1042
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 1: is this is a big school at a premier position.

1043
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: Premier position, well, sexy, I'm trying sexy position. Sexy position.

1044
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: Oh wait a minute, Garrett crocheck, that's the the Wisconsin kid, right,

1045
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: you got it, you got it, Wisconsin position running back,

1046
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: running back. There you go, got it. Sorry, just took

1047
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: a second, took a si a second. That's right. All right,

1048
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: we'll keep it moving here. Joe Sculthorpe, sculf Thorpe. Yeah,

1049
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: he's your he's your namesake, man, he's your namesake. Sculthorpe, Sculthorpe,

1050
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: North Carolina State or North North Carolina State Guard. All right,

1051
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: all right, all right, we'll give you one last one.

1052
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: All right, this guy, this guy might be related to Hollywood. Okay,

1053
00:51:54,280 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: first name jet last name Toner, jet Toner, jet Toner, Uh,

1054
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: jet Toner. I know that name. This one yet, I

1055
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 1: know that name. I mean, that's a name jet that

1056
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: that there's some cool parents. Is he's a West Coast guy?

1057
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: I think, Wait a minute, jet Toner? Is he a

1058
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: care he's a kicker? What schools he go to? Do?

1059
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 1: I have to give me of the school? Yeah, you're up.

1060
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: You're right. He's wicked. Smile. I'm looking at his wicked smart.

1061
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: Oh okay, that helps. That helps that Stanford, right, Stanford,

1062
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: I'm looking at But you guys can't say I got

1063
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 1: this big map up here. You guys know the map

1064
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 1: in my office. I'm staring at the map. The wicked

1065
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: smart helped me West Coast. Um. Yeah, I can't tell

1066
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: you much about jet Toner because Honestly, I leave the

1067
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: kickers up to Randy. I would not have gotten that

1068
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: without clues, There's no doubt. Really I needed some help

1069
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: on the Daniel Jeremiah one too, you know, Jeremiah being

1070
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: that well, yeah, you know I would say you gotta

1071
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 1: c grade on that. Joe. Yeah, I was the city

1072
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: that wasn't my best, you know, Like, but I I

1073
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: know the guy. I'm not even I know the name.

1074
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: You're gonna ask me next year. I know it, and

1075
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna write it down, put it in a piece

1076
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: of paper, Okay, and I'm gonna I'm and and you

1077
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 1: were gonna. I just hope he's not like I hope

1078
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: he's one of the obscure players because if he has

1079
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: a great year and all of a sudden, you know,

1080
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: too many people talk about you want to ask about it,

1081
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 1: but I can guarantee it. I'm gonna write it down

1082
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: right now on this piece of paper, and I'll put

1083
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 1: it in an envelope. I love that. I love that

1084
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,439
Speaker 1: we're in your head so much. The game has become

1085
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: such a thing that you think about it when you

1086
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: see good names on this piece of paper. After we

1087
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: hang off, I'm gonna write down the name you're gonna

1088
00:53:56,160 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: give me next year, and if I'm right, I gotta

1089
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: get something for it, like maybe a new pair of

1090
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: bows headsets or something. I don't know. The Hall of Fame.

1091
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: This car is going if I can get it right,

1092
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 1: and I'll get you lounge T shirt coming that I'm

1093
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: all about that. Is it dry it or is it like? No,

1094
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 1: It's like it's like a cotton that you'll sweat through

1095
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: immediately I wear. Alright. Last question for you, while we're

1096
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: on the subject of grades and your grade. You know,

1097
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: I remember when you guys, did you ranked the media

1098
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: members on your big board a couple of years ago?

1099
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: I want to know I was. I don't even know

1100
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: if I made priority free agent. I think I was

1101
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: just a straight free agent lucky to get a camp invite.

1102
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: Have I moved up on the big board at all? Um?

1103
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: I think actually Jerry's ahead of you now, Oh god,

1104
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: I I have to pull that board up. You know,

1105
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: it's in there somewhere. I don't know, man, Like you know,

1106
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: I just you know, maybe it's because you haven't been

1107
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: in the building, you know, and just we haven't been

1108
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: able to see as much. We just kind of you

1109
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 1: know you just haven't watched your luck home on you lately,

1110
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: so yeah, no doubt. All right, Joe, Well, thank you

1111
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. Best luck in the draft. Man.

1112
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: We're excited. We can't wait for to get here. I'm

1113
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: sure you are as well. All right, guys, I appreciate it.

1114
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: It's fun. Thanks all right, that's all right? Well, great

1115
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: stuff from Joe. Uh, if we if we had known

1116
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: Orlando Brown, do you think he knew the trade was

1117
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: coming up? That's I was wondering that probably. Yeah, yeah,

1118
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: I would have had about ten more questions about the

1119
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: offensive lineman had I know this was coming. Uh. But anyway,

1120
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: good stuff from Joe. Um, you know, I do think,

1121
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: like we talked at the top, Tevin Jenkins makes a

1122
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: whole lot of sense with one of those first round picks.

1123
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 1: What about the oh what about this? You draft Tevin

1124
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: Jenkins and Landon Dickerson. Just go all in on the

1125
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: old line, Just go all in, Oh, Ronnie Stanley, Ronnie Stanley,

1126
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: Bradley Bozeman, Landon Dickerson, Kevin Zeitler and uh and Tevin Jenkins.

1127
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: That's a big line. I don't that's not gonna happen.

1128
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: I would be shocked. I would be shocked at that happened.

1129
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: I would be shocked. If that's what how this thing

1130
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 1: played out, Um, that would be amazing. That. Well, we

1131
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: are gonna do next week. We're gonna do our full

1132
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: seven round mock draft. So this is throwing a ranch

1133
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 1: into it in a big way. Back to the drawing board.

1134
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: Scrap everything that you've done. There's gonna be a lot

1135
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: of majoring over the course of the next few days,

1136
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: and send us an email. You must have lounged at

1137
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: Ravens dot NFL dot net. Send us your mock draft.

1138
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: Also let us know what questions you may have, uh

1139
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 1: leading into Thursday night. It's gonna be fun. It's gonna

1140
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 1: be this just I'm always excited for the draft. This

1141
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: ramped it up a little bit because the end of

1142
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: that first round is gonna be uh is gonna be

1143
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. So, uh, we'll tell I'll tell

1144
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 1: you this, Garrett, hold on, before you close it. I'll

1145
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: tell you this happy hour might have gotten postponed, but

1146
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: it has not been called off. It's going to midnight.

1147
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: It's going to midnight tonight. Maybe while I'm doing this

1148
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: seven round mad it might get a little sloppy. Seven

1149
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: round may not be accurate now, but this is only

1150
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: delayed happy yeah. Seven round max is never accurate and

1151
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: and the happy hour on Thursday night also has extended

1152
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: to midnight. You're gonna have to stay up. Ram's got

1153
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: two picks at the end of the first round. Nobody's

1154
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: going to sleep early on Thursday night, so exciting stuff.

1155
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: Like I said, you can emailus the lounge at Ravens

1156
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: dot NFL died net. Thank you so much for listening,

1157
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: and we'll be back with you next week.