WEBVTT - HOUR 1: The Mavs Punch Back

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio. What up? Good morning, Dan Patrick Show. You're

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<v Speaker 1>on Fox Sports Radio. Oh man, Jay Mack Jason McIntyre,

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<v Speaker 1>founder of the Big Lead, and now of course he does.

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<v Speaker 1>He does the morning pod, Straight Fire, Straight Fire Daily

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<v Speaker 1>just aug Gotlib Doug Gotlieb Show by the way three

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<v Speaker 1>to six Eastern, twelve, three Pacific on many of these

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<v Speaker 1>same Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio and Serious XM stations. Um, Jason,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a lot to get to you, right. Baseball

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<v Speaker 1>still taking place, Fernando Tatis still doing Fernando Tatis sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of things. Lakers play tonight, try and even the series

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<v Speaker 1>with the Trailblazers. But for the third conset, third consecutive day, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>third consecutive do we have upsets that we didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>upsets the first day a favorites went four and oh

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah. So for the second consecutive day, down goes

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<v Speaker 1>a sizeable favorite, not just in terms of of point spread,

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<v Speaker 1>but a favorite in terms you know, people believe that

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<v Speaker 1>the Clippers are a favorite to win an NBA title,

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<v Speaker 1>and here they lose to the Dallas Mavericks after game one,

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<v Speaker 1>very competitive and Perzingis was ejected. They might be down.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's not the way it actually works in

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<v Speaker 1>real life, right because you lost game two. You might

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<v Speaker 1>have lost game one. It's not how it worked. But

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<v Speaker 1>could have been down two games and none. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess is that where you start with straight fire? Was that?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you start with the is it time to panic?

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a Clipper fan, I you're right on the money.

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<v Speaker 1>Doug as usual? Um, you know in the restart during

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<v Speaker 1>those eight games, we saw the Bucks kind of hit

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<v Speaker 1>and miss. You know, Jannis had that headbut Bledsoe had

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<v Speaker 1>the COVID and it's just was they didn't look like

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<v Speaker 1>the Bucks who were dominant. We had the COVID. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't go with had ron rona COVID. Yeah, yeah, had

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<v Speaker 1>the rona coronavirus um. And then the Clippers also had

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<v Speaker 1>some issues, right Montrez Harold never played a game, Beverly

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<v Speaker 1>in and out of the lineup. The chemistry was lacking,

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<v Speaker 1>and Doug the Lakers. Lakers had some issues with the shooting.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we've seen all three of them already drop

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<v Speaker 1>a playoff game, and Doug, I have no idea. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no precedent for this, Like do the Mavericks now have

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<v Speaker 1>momentum heading into Game three? Or is there no home

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<v Speaker 1>court advantage? Like what is the mood for the Lakers?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they must win? I mean, I can't imagine the

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks are in trouble, but I don't know. This is

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<v Speaker 1>just so weird. You're going into like a quiet arena

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no fans. Luca one time in the first half,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just he hits a three and he goes and

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<v Speaker 1>looks to the non bench sideline and like pounds his

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<v Speaker 1>chest like you would do if you're in a home game.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's almost you have to like play like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a crowd even when there is no crowd. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I and we can get into this. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a story. Um Joe Varden, of course covered Lebron in

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland wrote the story about how you know, how surprised

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<v Speaker 1>he is the affected by not having fans Lebron is.

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<v Speaker 1>We could but like, look, they're all this is what

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<v Speaker 1>they've created in Orlando is an environment that basically is

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<v Speaker 1>what the NCAA tournament in its and it's heart of

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<v Speaker 1>hearts wants to be right, it wants to be a

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<v Speaker 1>true neutral site environment, and that's what you have, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you just get the who's the better basketball team

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<v Speaker 1>on that particular night, And I think I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>on some levels the most surprising thing. I did this

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<v Speaker 1>on my show yesterday where I'm like, you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the maybe one of the myths of the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>is how non competitive we think first round series are,

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<v Speaker 1>and the truth is they're a lot more competitive. Yeah right,

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<v Speaker 1>this this happens way more often than you think that

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<v Speaker 1>the underdog steals a game and and and sometimes the

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<v Speaker 1>favorites just survive. But there's a bunch to get to.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's begin with Luca okay um I you know Vlody,

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<v Speaker 1>I think lucas the reason bloody Divats got fired. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you can't have an all European front office

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<v Speaker 1>have the most decorated and uh, I mean it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't a European prospect as much as he's a

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<v Speaker 1>European player, Yeah right, Like this wasn't a Nikolai Skidisvilli

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<v Speaker 1>who was a bench player in Italy. And you're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know as he matures like. I played against Darko

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<v Speaker 1>before he was drafted. We played twice when I was

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<v Speaker 1>in Israel, play against twice he was seventeen, and I

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<v Speaker 1>would I said, I thought it was a great pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he had great upside and potential. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>just potential, yea. What people need to remember about Luca

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<v Speaker 1>was Luca was arguably the best player in Europe, if

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<v Speaker 1>not the best young player in Europe, won a European championship,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was the go to guy. So it's not

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<v Speaker 1>as much so Luca got Bloody Divas fired. Right, he's

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<v Speaker 1>the Portland not taking him, I mean Phoenix not taking

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<v Speaker 1>him and taking DeAndre and only a sign of exactly

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<v Speaker 1>and they had his national team coach as their head

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<v Speaker 1>coach at the time. It unbelievable. But how do you

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<v Speaker 1>see Luca after now watching him two playoff games and

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's second all time and most points scored

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<v Speaker 1>in his first two playoff games. Well, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going on Colin Cowherd show later today, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>a theory already that when Jannis gets presented that Supermax

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<v Speaker 1>is summer, yeah, this offseason, you know, whenever it is

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what where the bucks are. But if I'm honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't am I sticking around to play with Middleton

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<v Speaker 1>and Bledsoe and these guys, or I don't know, Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna have money. They have started to clear a

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<v Speaker 1>cap room for the summer of twenty twenty one. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you're Luca Dontage and you are ascending to the

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<v Speaker 1>point letter, I don't know, Doug. When I watched Luca,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like he makes everyone better. Tim Hardaway looks awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>Seth Curry looks like I'm one of the best role

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<v Speaker 1>players in the league. I mean, if you're Luca Dontage,

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<v Speaker 1>you put in a call to Jannis, Yo, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to come run with us? Well, I think nobody can

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<v Speaker 1>stop the pick and roll with me and Porzingis now,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Luca and Yannis. Like you're Luca, you're a

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<v Speaker 1>foundational player in this league. The guy has one playoff

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<v Speaker 1>win under his belt. But Doug, I think it's undeniable.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the best player on the court. So far

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<v Speaker 1>in this series, Kawhi has had some good numbers playoff.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul George shrinking in Game two as he is wont

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<v Speaker 1>to do. But I think it's easily. Luca Dodge is

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<v Speaker 1>the best player on the floor. Just looks he's in

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<v Speaker 1>total control. And think about this, Clippers MAVs eight quarters

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<v Speaker 1>in with the exception of the first quarter of the

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<v Speaker 1>game one, Porzingis and Luca never played a playoff game.

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas has controlled the series. Luca Donches is the best

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<v Speaker 1>player on the floor. I'm stunned at how amazing he is.

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<v Speaker 1>And oh yeah, he's twenty one years old. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>two of them are not good defensively, Zingers probably especially so.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's really hard to sit there and just

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<v Speaker 1>go ross stats, raw data. Lucas better than Kauai. But remember, though,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an offensive league. Dallas had I think, per

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred possessions, the greatest offense in NBA history. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and why and Paul George on the on the wings

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<v Speaker 1>to stop a guy like Luca. I think it's an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive regular season league. Now, Now, what's what's interesting about

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<v Speaker 1>the bubble? Jason McIntire, Doug Gotliebin for Jan and the Denetts.

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<v Speaker 1>What's interesting about the bubble is it used to be

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<v Speaker 1>you get to the playoffs and the game was officiated

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<v Speaker 1>completely differently in terms of physicality, right, Like, whoa, what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to? That's really what affects Steph Curry, especially early

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<v Speaker 1>in the NBA finals is and and during that times

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA playoffs as teams have been so much more

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<v Speaker 1>physical with him, and you know, it starts to the

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<v Speaker 1>officia aint starts to tighten up, and he starts to

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<v Speaker 1>get loose, usually later in series. But but the regular

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<v Speaker 1>season the postseason have been different. Now Prezinga is getting

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<v Speaker 1>ejected for what I felt like it was nothing the

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<v Speaker 1>other day. I understand as the second technical foul, but

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<v Speaker 1>why he got a technical foul, I don't really understand. Like, so,

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<v Speaker 1>part of what we have to understand is there's the

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<v Speaker 1>possibility that you're right, they want this to be an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive league. The league, the game is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>super tightly officiated, and those and players that skew more

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<v Speaker 1>to offense will be as valuable in the postseason as

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<v Speaker 1>they are in the regular season. However, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>he's undeniably the best player on the floor, and I

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<v Speaker 1>let's just take a breath. He's been incredible, He's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't actually think by the way it works with Jannis,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think there's a bigger discussion to have about Jannis,

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<v Speaker 1>and you talk about Cowherd. I thought he actually, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes he says stuff about basketball. I'm like, what, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>And but yesterday I thought he was on fire in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of a couple of points he made about the

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers and then a comparison he made with Jannis. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get to But I look at this thing

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<v Speaker 1>and I think Luca is amazing. I agree, he's in

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<v Speaker 1>complete control. He plays at his own pace, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>one of these guys where, you know, I think his

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<v Speaker 1>style lasts a long time because he's so skilled, but

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<v Speaker 1>also he's so big that even if he's already kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a half step slow, yeah, right, even if he

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<v Speaker 1>becomes a step slow like Paul Pierce, you can still

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<v Speaker 1>get to where you want to get to and and

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<v Speaker 1>can completely control the game. He's been marvelous. How about

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<v Speaker 1>this over under two and a half MVP awards for

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<v Speaker 1>Luca done in his career. He's twenty one. Jannis is

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<v Speaker 1>about to win his second MVP. Larry Bird had won

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<v Speaker 1>three in a row. Steve Nash one two, Curry one two.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give I'll give it two and a half for

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<v Speaker 1>Luca over Under. I mean, I'd take under. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the idea you're gonna win multiple mv like, let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>catch our breath. I mean, because if we go by

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<v Speaker 1>simply by the bubble, Damian Lillard's the best point guard

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<v Speaker 1>in the league. He's not right, but he'd be the

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<v Speaker 1>best point guard in league. I mean, we've seen him

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<v Speaker 1>against Steph Curry in playoffs before, and Steph Curry has

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<v Speaker 1>kicked his ass. I think Steph Curry's ten and oh

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<v Speaker 1>against Stimula right now. He's had many in many aspects,

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<v Speaker 1>he's had better teams, but it's not just ten No,

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<v Speaker 1>like he's Steph went healthy has played really well against

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<v Speaker 1>against Well, let's admit though Dame has gotten better, no

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<v Speaker 1>question the last two. That's the other problem. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>other problem that we make. And this kind of will

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get around to the Lakers is a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>this we're doing on dated data. Right Whereas I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Luca is better than Lebron, people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what are you talking about, like Lebron like

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen years, Like I'm not talking about Lebron for the

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<v Speaker 1>last seventeen years, talking Lebron James today and Luca today. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Lebron still does some things athletically the Luca coulnot.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know Luca made. Luca's close to the same

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<v Speaker 1>passer and a far better scorer. I mean that's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that Lebron just doesn't seem to have the bill

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<v Speaker 1>to do is get his own shot. You notice he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have the lift of walked twice well again, And

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<v Speaker 1>there's another thing that Colin actually picked out. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get to like, he's not really a it's it's fascinating,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So we got a lot to get to. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let let me start though, let me get back to

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<v Speaker 1>the original question, and then we'll work work in this conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Are the Clippers in trouble? I think the Clippers are

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble. I just saw a stat that the Mavericks

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<v Speaker 1>have outscored the Clippers by sixteen points with Porzingis on

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<v Speaker 1>the floor. Now it's only it's only six quarters. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know Pat Bev, the lead dog at Chris Bussard,

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<v Speaker 1>loves to tell me, oh, the Clippers got these dogs

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<v Speaker 1>on defense. I mean the MAVs have shredded them now twice,

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<v Speaker 1>just absolutely tore that great defense apart over one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>twenty points twice. So I just don't know how much

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<v Speaker 1>I buy of this. They got the dogs and they

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<v Speaker 1>love to play defense. Paul George can't stay in front

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<v Speaker 1>of Luca. That's a problem. I mean, yeah, Dallas is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the great three point shooting teams in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>They catch fire for in Game three. I'm a little concerned,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, I think the better question, who are

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<v Speaker 1>you more concerned about the Clippers after two games or

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers after one? I would say the Lakers after one,

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<v Speaker 1>but not the Lakers in terms of losing to Portland.

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<v Speaker 1>I still think they're in good shape. I still think

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<v Speaker 1>they're fine with Portland, you know, with especially with no

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<v Speaker 1>home court disadvantage whatever to go to Portland. Are they

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<v Speaker 1>gonna miss twenties? What are the twenty six three pointers? Again?

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<v Speaker 1>Now that we scoff, but Casey p and Danny Green

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<v Speaker 1>can't throw in the ocean door. I mean, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little scary. It's not not not just you know

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<v Speaker 1>then you know you're when you're when they want to

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<v Speaker 1>go defense at point guard, you know, you bring in

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who's can't is not a score Crucho baby

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<v Speaker 1>and Crusoe. As much as I love Alex Crusoe, what

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<v Speaker 1>kept him out of the league consistently for a long

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<v Speaker 1>time was his jump shot. And that gets exposed even

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<v Speaker 1>more once you get to the postseason, right at the

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<v Speaker 1>like like he's basically Avery Johnson, and what people forget.

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<v Speaker 1>Avery Johnson was cut three times I think by the Spurs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>good mid rain shooter. But we know what he did

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<v Speaker 1>was he developed I gotta get to my spots, my spots,

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<v Speaker 1>and like he had like five spots on the floor.

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<v Speaker 1>They were all mid rain shots, and when he would

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<v Speaker 1>enter the ball in the offense, like he would just

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<v Speaker 1>get to his spots and he could make just enough

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<v Speaker 1>of them so that all the other things that he

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<v Speaker 1>could do, passing, defending, leading, we're good. Now. The league

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<v Speaker 1>has kind of evolved since then. And Caruso, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Caruso tries to cut, but he just he's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really hard to have a point guard, a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who when you when you're on a team that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have more than one shot creator, when you're a really

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<v Speaker 1>good passer and you're explosive, but you can't score like that,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a that's a problem. But that's not their biggest problem,

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<v Speaker 1>right their their issue. They had h This is where

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<v Speaker 1>I disagree with you in terms of it being an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive league. The Lakers were fine. They held Portland, even

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<v Speaker 1>with Portland going on a late run there to one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred points. Yeah, that's the lowest scoring win of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>hundred And that's by design for the Lakers, like they

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<v Speaker 1>want to control with their defense. That's how they're built

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<v Speaker 1>because they don't have the offense. But um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when they have us on Whiteside in the game, Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>can't can't finish. That's exactly what I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>too done, because I think that is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things Vogel's going to have to fix. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you can play two bigs against Portland that allows nurkicch

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<v Speaker 1>and Whiteside to be in the game. I think Vogel's

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<v Speaker 1>got to say, listen, Anthony Davis, I don't care that

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<v Speaker 1>you refuse to play the five, dude, We've got to

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<v Speaker 1>get Morris out there. He shot, he doesn't refuse to

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<v Speaker 1>play the five. About it all the time. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I get it. Fine, you want the start of

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<v Speaker 1>the year. He can play well, guess what, it's playoff time. Man. No,

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<v Speaker 1>But at the start of the year and then as

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<v Speaker 1>the season went on, he actually embraced it and started

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<v Speaker 1>doing the problem with Anthony Davis was, Okay, we're playing

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<v Speaker 1>you at the five to stretch you out, but that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean you're you're You're Steph Curry now, like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't be just taking threes like, we need you

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<v Speaker 1>to get in there and score. And this has been

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen outside of the restricted area. Well, he two for fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>But why is he shooting all the I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Why does he fade away on every shot? I think

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<v Speaker 1>Vogel has to realize we can't play two bigs if

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<v Speaker 1>we will go with Morris or Kuzma at the four.

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<v Speaker 1>And now, why dare you to play Hassan Whiteside and

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<v Speaker 1>Nurkis because they they blocked a lot of the Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>shots at the rim that I mean, hit side surprised me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really shocked at he. I know he led

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<v Speaker 1>the league in blocks, blah blah blah, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>this is the guy who can't shoot free throws for

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<v Speaker 1>a lick. What does that do him? Defending the minus

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<v Speaker 1>offensive player. But the reason he the reason he exists

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<v Speaker 1>in this world is what he did the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>He all he has to do is defend the rim

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<v Speaker 1>and roll to the basket and finished when he gets it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Lakers have to counter by saying, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess what, We're not gonna play two bigs. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>I just I actually think the two bigs. If you

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<v Speaker 1>can get the problem in Portland is they won't match

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<v Speaker 1>up necessarily with two bigs. And now they get you

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<v Speaker 1>all screwed up defensively, right because they keep they keep

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<v Speaker 1>their big guys in the lane. The lanes crowded for Lebron.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really not Allude a lot of room to operate.

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<v Speaker 1>And they don't respect KCP. They don't respect Caruso. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you got I mean, I I do believe Doug.

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<v Speaker 1>We will see more than five minutes of Dion Waiters.

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<v Speaker 1>He played one minute in Game one. We gotta see

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<v Speaker 1>some j R. Smith. I know he can't defend anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's a shooter. But he hasn't made any shots, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like give them some shots? Like do you do you

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<v Speaker 1>they've been down there a month and a half. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think if they assessed that j R. Smith could

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<v Speaker 1>make shots and couldn't do it in the NBA game,

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<v Speaker 1>that they would have given him a shot. Well, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's like that's the thing that is and again this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is like the going on dated information, Like

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to go buy four years ago, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>He hadn't played in the league in two years. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So to go from not playing the league in two

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<v Speaker 1>years to training with the team to playing in a

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<v Speaker 1>regular season game where you look completely out of sorts too,

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<v Speaker 1>let's throw you in an NBA playoff game or oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, you're gonna have to match up with

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<v Speaker 1>either CJ. McCullum. They can try to hide him on

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<v Speaker 1>where Gary tread hug up Gary trend. That's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't that you can't. This is what's changed about

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA. You can't hide dudes. Well, you can't hide you.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't hide four for twenty one, Danny Green and

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<v Speaker 1>Casey We've seen it games. They can't shoot and if

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<v Speaker 1>you make it, but if you make a free throw,

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<v Speaker 1>if you make a free throw, if Lebron, if Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>attacks more when he gets the rim, and instead of

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<v Speaker 1>being more passive. You're you're fine. I'm optimistic. I am

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<v Speaker 1>all in. Not quite the college education for my kids

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<v Speaker 1>on the Lakers tonight, but I'm very confident that the

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers will win. Yeah, I do believe Lebron. You've seen

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<v Speaker 1>the movie Troy with Brad Pitt. Remember when they're on

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<v Speaker 1>the boat about to storm the shores and Brad Pitt

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<v Speaker 1>as Achilles just destroys everyone. He makes that speech, we

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<v Speaker 1>are Lions. It's epic. You go watch it on YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seconds and I think Lebron at some point today

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<v Speaker 1>will be like, guys, I don't go down O two.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just not what I do. We are better

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<v Speaker 1>than this team. They're the twenty seventh rated defensive team

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<v Speaker 1>in the league and we scored ninety three friggin points.

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<v Speaker 1>Buck up, get it together, and the Lakers just smother.

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<v Speaker 1>Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

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<v Speaker 1>Jason mcintarre in for Dan and the Dan as Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick's Show on Fox Sports Radio. UM, there's like yearly discussions.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like in sports right. For a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>it was is Joe Flacco elite? Right? And um or

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<v Speaker 1>I guess is eli elite? Then it was Joe Flacco elite. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>now it's for a while. I remember at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of Brett farther front, will Brett Farve retire? No, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna retire. He will retire. Then finally he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of got retired, and then he wanted to come back,

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<v Speaker 1>and he went to the New York Jets, and and

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<v Speaker 1>and the rest. By this is history in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>In the NBA over the last I think three years,

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<v Speaker 1>in the off season, at least the last two years

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<v Speaker 1>in the off season, there has been at least a

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<v Speaker 1>discussion over the Philadelphia seventy six ers. Will they ever

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<v Speaker 1>be able to achieve the level of success that their

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<v Speaker 1>their talent would tell you they should achieve. And by talent,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you have two of the elite talented young players.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Tobias Harris. Who who they now have who's like

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<v Speaker 1>a um He's a very talented scoring wing. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know he's one of the top thirty players the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>is Okay, don't make me count. I don't think he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't think Harris is in the top thirty players in

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA. Is Jamal Murray? No? No, I like Jamal

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<v Speaker 1>Murray a lot, Okay, I mean I just see him.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No No, it's okay. I mean it's like you say

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<v Speaker 1>top thirty. Then you start to realize, right, there's thirty teams. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he's there's a bunch of teams. He's not the best

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<v Speaker 1>player on. But is he you know he's Is he

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely the best player? I don't, I don't know m

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<v Speaker 1>with him? Is he he got a Max deal and

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<v Speaker 1>he ain't a Max player? Right? That's that's the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of classic that that's what happened for with the Max

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<v Speaker 1>contract for a long time, which is there should be

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<v Speaker 1>different levels of the Max, right, there should be the

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<v Speaker 1>super super which is what the Supermax is. Really you

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<v Speaker 1>needn't get that. Yeah, but it's still a ton of money,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how you get guys to come join you anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the question they get beat by the same Celtics.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Tatum is one of the top thirty players the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>You okay with that thirty? Yeah, I think he's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot higher than that. I think there's okay, But he's

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<v Speaker 1>still a top ten, like number ten. Okay, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like we don't have we we can do another ratings

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<v Speaker 1>segment if you want, but if you're a top ten,

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<v Speaker 1>you're definitely in the top thirty. Tatum is a superstar

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<v Speaker 1>man star. I don't know a superstar. He's a star, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but find budding superstar. I'll back off the superstar buddings.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's unstoppable. And what really kills the Sixers

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<v Speaker 1>is they could have drafted him and they took Mark. No,

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<v Speaker 1>he could have drafted him. Okay, but they traded draft picks.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh gosh, like no, no, no, you take the first pick,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll take the third pick. That's the amazing thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>the process is done. Dug, it's over. Trust the process.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fun. It made a lot of sense. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot too, okay. So so okay, well, well, let's

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<v Speaker 1>work to the let's work to the question as to

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not you break up the team in a second.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna say this about the seventy six ers,

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<v Speaker 1>and this comes from here's my kind of there's here's

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<v Speaker 1>my realist brain working. Okay, when you walk into houses nowadays,

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<v Speaker 1>at least in my neighborhood and you're trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out what you're gonna do. You're almost better off when

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<v Speaker 1>everything is original right from like the nineteen sixties and seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh boy, you're almost because you're gonna That's

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<v Speaker 1>what a lot of these teams do is they want

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<v Speaker 1>to just start over. Let's just start over, take you know,

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<v Speaker 1>knock out a couple of walls all brand new, like

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<v Speaker 1>because if you're just gonna throw on white paint and

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<v Speaker 1>try and redo something, it ultimately it's age will show. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So some of these houses you walk in and they

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<v Speaker 1>had a kitchen that was redone ten years ago. A

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<v Speaker 1>bathroom has done five years ago, and they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they just threw on you know, some new stop new

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<v Speaker 1>paint and redid the outside, the exterior. And so you

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<v Speaker 1>have different visions, you have different eras, different things that

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<v Speaker 1>are important, right like the ship lap thing and the

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<v Speaker 1>modern farmhouse thing is now seemingly kind of going out.

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<v Speaker 1>You go back ten fifteen years ago and travertine was

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<v Speaker 1>in right, like the different stones that you use. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what the seventy six ers are. They started with the process. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they decided to keep their coach and keep these players.

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<v Speaker 1>But then they've interjected different personnel every year. There, you're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of they're almost doing like line changes hockey style

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of every year switching out guys, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>fix something where at the end of the day, the

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<v Speaker 1>layout of this house may just not work right. You

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<v Speaker 1>just may not be able to have Simmons and embiid

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm I'm I'm wondering what you do if you're

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<v Speaker 1>I put Jason mcintarre in charge of the Sixers, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you do? Oh, that's a genius move, Doug. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were a good coach, but maybe you're

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<v Speaker 1>a good GM. I think you start with getting rid

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<v Speaker 1>of Brett Brown. It's pretty clear that that ship is sailed.

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<v Speaker 1>He's done. But I also think you need to look

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<v Speaker 1>at the GM Elton brand who built this team. Remember,

0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:54.840
<v Speaker 1>gave Tobias Harris a Maxteele, brought in Al Horford, and

0:22:54.920 --> 0:22:58.040
<v Speaker 1>let Jimmy Butler walk. I mean I think he would

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<v Speaker 1>basically oh for three on those if you ask me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think you trade them yet, either Simmons

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<v Speaker 1>or Embid. But I certainly think Doug, you have to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to interview coaches who have an idea of

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<v Speaker 1>how on earth this this could work, because this pairing

0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:18.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem like it can. And then I think the

0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:21.280
<v Speaker 1>guy you look to move is Embiid and on on

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<v Speaker 1>Straight Fire today, Actually it's on iTunes and Spotify. We

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<v Speaker 1>discussed three landing spots. Are you ready let me hit

0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:32.480
<v Speaker 1>you with him? If you could get Joel Embid to

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<v Speaker 1>the Phoenix Suns to pair Embid with Devin Booker, If

0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:41.480
<v Speaker 1>you could get Joel that, well, you get Joel Embiid,

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<v Speaker 1>who's a dynamic superstar. Um, he's a top twenty player

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<v Speaker 1>in the league. Okay, we don't know if what DeAndre

0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:50.919
<v Speaker 1>Aden will be. He's strictly a defense and rebound and

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.400
<v Speaker 1>a rim runner and he's not a great shop rim

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<v Speaker 1>protector and beads a better defender than he better players.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's no quick Well you realize you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to and something back in Well, if you the trade, yeah,

0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:06.800
<v Speaker 1>you're like, hey, we want Joel the Sons. You like,

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:09.160
<v Speaker 1>we want Joel Embiid, You take DeAndre and like, okay,

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 1>well what else you Okay, Well, if you if you

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<v Speaker 1>are going to position Ben Simmons as the Draymond Green

0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:18.680
<v Speaker 1>point guard version, and he's your big and you want

0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:21.240
<v Speaker 1>to build around him. You could use a little Kelly

0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Ubre who's a pretty he's a pretty good wing player.

0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:25.879
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't play a lot of defense, but he's a

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<v Speaker 1>scorer and a shooter. And you know, I like the

0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 1>um the kid mcl bridges. He's a nice wing player.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the originally was drafted by Philly. You sent him

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<v Speaker 1>back to Philly where he played college. Ye payee, I

0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:41.040
<v Speaker 1>mean I want to I want wings around Ben Simmons

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.439
<v Speaker 1>who can shoot. Richardson can shoot a little bit. They

0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:45.920
<v Speaker 1>got Tobias Harris. They don't have enough, So I think

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Phoenix one opportunity someone the other great idea from my producers,

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<v Speaker 1>straight Fire said, what if the Wizards said, we'll give

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 1>you Bradley bo you give us Joel embiid Wait, why

0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:00.440
<v Speaker 1>would the Wizards do that? Well, you know, what do

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 1>you what do you have with Bradley Beale? You just

0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:04.480
<v Speaker 1>signed him to a massive long term deal. All you've

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:08.360
<v Speaker 1>got the best player by a by a mile. Right.

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:12.080
<v Speaker 1>The problem is the John Wall thing where if John

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Wall comes back, is he healthy? They have a huge

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:18.240
<v Speaker 1>contract with Wall. You can't necessarily trade him. He can't shoot.

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:22.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, John, they don't want to like if Yeah,

0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:24.200
<v Speaker 1>that I don't see that. Okay, look here's the here's

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<v Speaker 1>my thing. I've always been a if you're gonna trade,

0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 1>you trade Ebid because Embiid can't stay healthy. And and

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<v Speaker 1>whereas Simmons, the issues with Simmons at times were attitude,

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:38.960
<v Speaker 1>would he become a shooter? Um? And and you know,

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:43.199
<v Speaker 1>do guys like playing with him? It feels almost the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite now, right, Like Ben Simmons can't stay healthy. He

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<v Speaker 1>had the back issue that would have kept him out

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:51.159
<v Speaker 1>for the playoffs, and then he comes back obviously for

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:53.440
<v Speaker 1>the bubble, and now he's got the knee problem. Where's

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 1>his knee pops out? And that's going to keep out

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 1>of these playoffs. Ben Simmons can't stay healthy. And it's

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:02.199
<v Speaker 1>Joel Embiid who doesn't all always show that he's a

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:05.920
<v Speaker 1>great teammate, that guys want to play with him. He's

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 1>always looking out of shape. Yeah, I mean, look, this

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>is My late father used to had this expression, and

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:16.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he invented. I think it's something that's

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 1>the old basketball expression. He used to say, there's always

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:23.679
<v Speaker 1>a reason you know I've played in the usbl and

0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:27.440
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand we played usbl Enian Oklahoma. Jason sown

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<v Speaker 1>about the Yeah, home of Brent and Mark Price. That's

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 1>where they went to high school. Collectually play at Mark

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 1>Price Arena and their their late father, Denny, was one

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 1>of our assistants that year. Phillips University used to be there.

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Now it's uh Northeastern Oklahoma. I believe it is now

0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:46.200
<v Speaker 1>what they had a campus there anyway, So um and

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:49.399
<v Speaker 1>on the team. We had Willie Burton, ninth pick in

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:52.440
<v Speaker 1>the NBA draft, Minnesota Golden Gopher. Sure he had fifty

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 1>points an NBA game. We had Bubba Wells who played

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:58.359
<v Speaker 1>for Austin Pete led the country in scoring. Bubba Wells.

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Bubba Wells, look at up Bubba Wells. He he actually

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 1>had two. He broke his legs on stress fractures in college,

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:06.399
<v Speaker 1>so he had like rods in his legs. So had

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Bubba Wells. We had um uh oh man, what's the

0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:13.920
<v Speaker 1>name of the guy? I'm just blanking on his name.

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 1>He there was the famous story about Michael Jordan where

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:19.160
<v Speaker 1>he gave it to George oh Lebradford Smith. Ah. Yes,

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Louisville Star. Okay, so he had Lebradford Smith. We had

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 1>we had probably six or seven dudes that played in

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>the NBA and maybe a couple more who were also

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 1>drafted in the NBA. And my dad I never forget.

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 1>He was like, I was like, Dad, this team is.

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 1>You would not believe how good these guys are. He's like, Son,

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>there's always a reason. What do you mean, There's always

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:45.479
<v Speaker 1>a reason. He's like, why are you there? I was like, well,

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 1>because I can't shoot, right, that's why you're not in

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 1>the league. You're in the usbl right, you know, and

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:55.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, some guys cannot maintain the proper weight. They

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 1>don't have the self discipline. Right. That's the fear with

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:00.879
<v Speaker 1>with Zion Williamson, where he spent a couple days outside

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 1>the bubble and he comes back looking like he's fifteen

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 1>pounds heavier. Here you got Joel Embid, who's got a

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 1>world of talent. But but even if he's in better shape,

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 1>he's still not in You've got to be in the

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:12.919
<v Speaker 1>best shape of your life. Can you imagine if Embid

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 1>were playing in the nineties, he would have been the

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 1>perfect player. I mean, he's a la jahwe light. He's

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 1>not gonna win an MVP and a Defensive Player of

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 1>the Year, but in like the eighties and nineties and

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 1>bead would be a top five guy in the league.

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I think he still should be the top five guy

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 1>in the league because because he can really score at

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the block, because he can, he's a good enough shooter.

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 1>He's made himself in a pretty good shooter, and he

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>can defend the rim, and he can defend ball screens

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 1>like that guy should be. The problem is why doesn't

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>he put it together more often? It's not just Ben

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Simmons in the lack of space, It's not just Brett Brown.

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 1>It's that kind of personal accountability of I'm not in

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>the best shape and his The thing I like best

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 1>about Luca, to be totally honest with you, is every

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>time they show him, he's smiling, yeah, having fun right,

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>like he's just out there hooping. Reminds me of myself

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>in that way. How about this one, Joel Embid to

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>the New York Knicks. New York has lacked star power forever.

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 1>In return, well, you know, I'm looking at the roster.

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 1>It's very bleak. But if you could cobble together something

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 1>like a RJ. Barrett, Kevin Knock, Julius Randall. No, why

0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>do I want those things? No, I'm gonna give away

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give away the most talented big guy in

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 1>the league. He may not be the best, he's the

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>most talented big guy in the league. I'm gonna give

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>away the most talented big guy in many what's the

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 1>definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 1>again expecting different? Isn't that? I don't one definition of insanity. Insanity?

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you're like, look at that dude, he's insane. That's right,

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 1>he's not doing the same thing. But just how many

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 1>years are we going to trot out and be in Simmons? No,

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. I think that the Brett Brown thing

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 1>is the first the problem. Here's my disappointment of Brett Brown.

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I understand that the job he's doing now is not

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:57.959
<v Speaker 1>the job he's he was brought in to do. I

0:29:58.000 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>also know that he's working for a completely different ball

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>so that so it's it's really it's very hard to

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 1>be Brett Brown, right, And you're like, well, he's got

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 1>great players. Not okay, everybody's got great players, talented, let's

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 1>just go talented. He's got talented guys who've never won anything,

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 1>and the roster keeps changing, and you know, in order

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 1>to play Al Horford, who everybody loves, that everybody believes

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 1>is a winner, that means you're you're shrinking the space

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 1>and the floor. It dictates something that that your team

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 1>can look very odd in terms of how you look

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 1>versus how everybody else is playing in the NBA. That said,

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 1>my disappointment of Brett Brown is really simple. Ben. The

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 1>whole reason he kept his job was he coached Ben

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Simmons dad in Australia. I can get I can break

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 1>through to Ben Simmons. I can fix Ben Simmons. I

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 1>can make Ben Simmons everything that people believe he can be.

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:53.720
<v Speaker 1>And while I'm sure it's a lot harder than than

0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 1>it looks, the fact is that he's never used any

0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 1>of that equity, or doesn't feel like he's used like it.

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Just now, Ben Simmons is taking jump shots. No, he

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 1>should have been benching him anytime he turns down in

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>a regular season, any turn time he turns down a

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 1>jump shot. You know, their home record was obscene in

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>the NBA, their road record was abysmal. Why is that

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 1>the road exposes adversity and those guys clearly don't handle

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>adverse situations well. And I'm surprised he hasn't challenged Ben

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Simmons more and gotten more out of Ben Simmons. Some

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 1>of that is on Ben Simmons, but some of that

0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>is on Brett Brown. And I agree with you. If

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 1>you get the sweetheart deal, you'd probably do it. But

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I would guess, as is usually the case in the NBA,

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 1>the first thing to go is the coaches before they start. Yeah,

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe the GM two and then yeah, you're right, Um,

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I just it's disappointing that this won't work. The Markel

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Fulton was really stump. Can you imagine this team Tatum,

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Simmons and Embid. That's terrifying. Yeah, well, they wouldn't have

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 1>to buy his hairs, although we don't know if we

0:31:58.160 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>would know, it would have been better. You would add

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 1>more and more couch space, you know. Oh yeah, But

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 1>but we also don't know if Jason Tatum wouldn't developed

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>the way he used to be. Like, we all believe

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>that Jason Tatum would be exactly the same, but there's

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:12.239
<v Speaker 1>a good chance that he wouldn't have developed. And one

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 1>of the things that helped Jason Tatum was um Kyrie

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 1>went down and didn't play in their first playoff run

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>and so he had to shoot the ball. See the

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Tatum numbers. Go look at the Bucks Celtics series last year.

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Jason Tatum was terrible. You average like twelve points for

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>the series, shot like from three because of the Kyrie

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Irving and also playing with Kyrie Irving is it's like

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 1>bad for your health. Honestly, guys, not a good teammate.

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go in on Kyrie Irving. Its

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:43.040
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0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 1>a frowback Thursday. Although Jason, you cut the froe. How

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 1>many COVID haircuts have you had? One? Had two? The

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 1>wife trim me up both times. We just ordered the

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 1>clippers online, yep, and I've done the home cut. I've

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 1>also I mean Orange County, where I live, we had

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 1>barber's were open for a lot longer. So I had

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 1>two cuts in the actual actual barber's chair, which is great. Yeah. Um,

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's weird work being at FS one. I

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 1>would just get haircuts there. So I haven't been in

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 1>a barber's chair and like four or five years. It

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>is interesting. Everybody got haircuts there. I never got one,

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<v Speaker 1>never once. No, they'll trim me up any day you

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<v Speaker 1>need it. I know. I just guys got them daily.

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I won't mention them, but I like that people get

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 1>them daily. I like that. Now, did you when you

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 1>get them? Do you tip? What do you? How do

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>you do it? H No? I mean I don't. Personally

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>I do the end of the year, I just give

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<v Speaker 1>everybody that I work within the building a little something.

0:33:56.000 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 1>What's a little something? A little holiday slash, Christmas sand

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<v Speaker 1>what's a little something? I think it varies, it depends

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 1>on you said, you give everybody a little something. I do.

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I roll in with you know, the family card, the

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:09.799
<v Speaker 1>MacIntire holiday card. I think we send them to you

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 1>me and the family out there in the South Bay

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<v Speaker 1>them thank you so much. Well you got listen, you

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 1>got to be a professional, now, Doug. You send the

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:21.719
<v Speaker 1>card with your family and then we I actually go

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:26.839
<v Speaker 1>to Target and get the gift cards. Gift cards. Huh yeah,

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm a gift card guy. Okay. So so I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I tried the first year to personalize it for somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Who So there's somebody who cuts your hair on a

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<v Speaker 1>bi monthly basis. My hair grows kind of slowly, so

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm like maybe a once every six week a guy,

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 1>you get a haircut once every six weeks? Six or

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:47.319
<v Speaker 1>six no way? Yeah, seriously, I'll trim up the neck

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 1>hairs myself. Yes, I want to have a clean nut,

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:53.479
<v Speaker 1>and I usually go kind of short, let it grow,

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 1>and then cut it six Okay. So so uh if

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<v Speaker 1>we go once every six weeks, there's fifty two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>in a year. Well the problem is there's like three

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 1>different people that can cut your hair. Okay, so what

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 1>do you how do you I think we you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I pretty much will do either, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred two fifty a person. Yeah that's good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny. I mean again, you know, when you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>that with the makeup artists as well. And listen, there's

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.399
<v Speaker 1>producers I work with. You work with them as well.

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:24.959
<v Speaker 1>I don't give them inducers. They're not that good. They're

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:27.360
<v Speaker 1>not worth two hundreds. Hey, they're trying to help me

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:30.399
<v Speaker 1>make me look good. So hey, you know you gotta

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:32.279
<v Speaker 1>spread the wealth. You got to spread the wealth, and

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>you have lots of it. Jason McIntire joining us because

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I got four jobs. You played basketball and made a

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of I did not um. Okay, So so there's

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<v Speaker 1>a there's an article from Ethan Strauss in The Athletic

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 1>and Ethan Strauss is remember he wrote the book on

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:55.359
<v Speaker 1>the Warriors Kevin Kevin Rant did not love Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>now this article talks about the ratings struggles of the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I both read it without getting into like

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<v Speaker 1>gritty details of it. Do you think the NBA is

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<v Speaker 1>in a bad place ratings wise? And if so, how

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 1>can they go back? Well, the big factor is there

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at since twenty twelve, Doug, they're down

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<v Speaker 1>forty And the article highlights a lot of the social

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:25.200
<v Speaker 1>issues that I guess the author thinks is a big

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:28.919
<v Speaker 1>reason why ratings are down so much. I personally dug

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 1>into it for the podcast Rate Fire and Doug, I

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 1>gotta be honest. If you look at primetime TV ratings,

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<v Speaker 1>they are down even more. Across the CBS, FOX, ANBC, ABC,

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<v Speaker 1>they're down more than the NBA games, I actually believe.

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 1>But sports are not down right, Well, baseball is not

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 1>down in the regular season. But if you compare the

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>NBA Finals over versus the World Series in the same

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:55.319
<v Speaker 1>eight year span, the NBA crushes the World I got it.

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:58.760
<v Speaker 1>But obviously in the NFL football regular season, college football

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 1>regular season healthy numbers despite the despite the fact that

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 1>they're not. I think we agree that NFL there is urgency.

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>There's sixteen games, right, there's you know, you can't miss

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 1>NBA games. There's eighty two regular seas can miss NBA games,

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 1>you can miss NBA, you can't miss NFL. Yes. Now,

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:18.839
<v Speaker 1>then you'll say, well, Jason, what about baseball. Well, this

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 1>is where it gets really interesting, Doug. If you look

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 1>at when the NBA season is played, they open up

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 1>going against college football in the NFL. Okay, then they

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 1>struggle going up against the NFL playoffs. Then they get

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 1>the March madness. So in like seventy percent of the season,

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 1>they're going up against major sports. Major League Baseball has

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:42.319
<v Speaker 1>a runway in June, July, August where they're going up

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:46.839
<v Speaker 1>against nothing. Absolutely, they're going up against vacation and people

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 1>not traditionally paying attention to you know, they're also going

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:55.719
<v Speaker 1>up against the fact that they're a sport, which, um, there,

0:37:55.760 --> 0:38:00.720
<v Speaker 1>they're a sport which is not deemed as older, colder older.

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:04.080
<v Speaker 1>But my big one last thing, Yeah, if you look

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:07.960
<v Speaker 1>at the markets, and this is big where baseball is successful.

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 1>The Yankees had the best record in the American League

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:13.520
<v Speaker 1>in the decade. The Red Sox were second in the

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>National League. The Dodgers were first for best record of

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:19.279
<v Speaker 1>the of the two thousand and tens. Those are the

0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:21.880
<v Speaker 1>three biggest, three of the biggest TV markets. Look at

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 1>the NBA markets. The New York Knicks have been an

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 1>abject failure for the decade. The Chicago Bulls have been

0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:30.759
<v Speaker 1>a dumpster fire. The Lakers just had a six year run,

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:34.440
<v Speaker 1>the worst record in franchise history. You've got the big

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:39.239
<v Speaker 1>markets struggling in the decade. Okay, like yes, look the

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 1>last five years are back to the Lakers. Um and

0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:45.279
<v Speaker 1>that does coincide with some of the numbers, but I

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:47.759
<v Speaker 1>also so so there's some there's some things that you

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 1>can't fix, that you can't change. I think one of

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 1>the things though, that you're getting at is there are

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 1>things that the NBA has done to themselves, right, they're

0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 1>self inflicted out This is not a wound, but the

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:03.399
<v Speaker 1>new TV deals which are I think like four years

0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:06.239
<v Speaker 1>old or whatever. With trying to think how far back

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 1>with the ESPN in Turner, the NBA is not only

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:11.880
<v Speaker 1>played every night, it's literally on national TV every night.

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 1>So there's nothing special about it. There isn't now if

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:16.759
<v Speaker 1>you want to, and you can make the argument and

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:20.280
<v Speaker 1>be a good one, that the NFL is is trending

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:23.279
<v Speaker 1>in a very similar fashion, although that's kind of been

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 1>the one question. The Thursday night thing is has been

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 1>hard for them to play Monday, Thursday, Sunday and occasionally

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Saturday and then you know it, do it again. But

0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:35.279
<v Speaker 1>the NBA is literally on at least five not six

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:38.359
<v Speaker 1>days a week national TV between ESPN and Turner. Yeah,

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:40.399
<v Speaker 1>so that's the first thing. The second thing is and

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:44.360
<v Speaker 1>I do think that the social justice part of it

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:47.920
<v Speaker 1>is at least a small fraction of its small right agreed, right, Like,

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 1>do I think that that racist watch the NBA previously? No,

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:55.480
<v Speaker 1>but I think there are plenty of people in the

0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:58.799
<v Speaker 1>middle or in the middle leaning to the right. They're like, yeah,

0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I kind of watch sports not hear about this stuff. Okay,

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 1>let me ask on a personal level, do you know

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:09.239
<v Speaker 1>anyone who used to watch the NBA and now does

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:12.840
<v Speaker 1>not because Greg Popovic yes, says Donald Trump is a

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 1>buffoo and curses. No, it's just it's just about the

0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 1>like I turn on to watch a ball game and

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting what I'm getting on some level. I'm getting

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:25.719
<v Speaker 1>what I'm getting on Fox News, MSNBC, and you know,

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 1>because they wrote black Lives Matter on the court. Yeah,

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 1>there's the commercials as well. There's I don't It doesn't

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:32.799
<v Speaker 1>bother me, Like I don't care. Like if you know

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:35.399
<v Speaker 1>someone personally, yeah, I know you want to mention they

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 1>have you talked about why as they exactly what I

0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:42.759
<v Speaker 1>expressed as why. It's like I watched to see a

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:45.719
<v Speaker 1>ball game. I don't watch to see you know, to

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:49.840
<v Speaker 1>be told you know, different political stances. I just don't.

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Speaker 1>That's you know, there are people who are really bothered

0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 1>by NFL players or NBA players taking any towards the flag. Yeah.

0:40:56.600 --> 0:41:00.120
<v Speaker 1>My wife's stepdad was a hardcore NFL fan and he

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:02.400
<v Speaker 1>was in the Vietnam War. Was drafted at eighteen. He

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 1>told me, and I believe he gave it up cold Turkey.

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:06.840
<v Speaker 1>He would go for bike rides on Sunday. He was

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:09.160
<v Speaker 1>that upset with it. And you know, we talked about it,

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:11.640
<v Speaker 1>and he hasn't mentioned the NBA to me. But I

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:14.040
<v Speaker 1>can understand the Vietnam War. I get there. There's a

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 1>There's another issue though, that I think is less divisive,

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 1>which the players moving makes it really hard, not just

0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Lebron being in the West, but just not knowing who's

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:29.680
<v Speaker 1>where in comparison to the National Football League. Be sure

0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:32.200
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0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:35.920
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