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Ryan 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: Hollands alongside this is We're coming off of some awesome 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: NBA games, an incredible performance in Major League Baseball, right, um, 18 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: and we have football stories about but but last night 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: something surprising happened. Jay Wright, who did you know? He's 20 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: sixty years old? Like, I don't know what sixty. I 21 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: could assume it. I'm thirty seven now, Dad, When I 22 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: could yeah, I guess he's sixty. I wouldn't. He don't 23 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: look sixty. Or maybe you got you got timeless faces. 24 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: Jay's got a timeless face. Well I did. I'll get 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: into it, but I did. I had. I watched them 26 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: practice at UCLA earlier this year before they played, like 27 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: early in the season, and I did for the first time, 28 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: I was like, well, Jays a little older than I 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: thought he was, you know, like I'm not. He didn't 30 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: look sixty. But I just, you know, you start to 31 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: do the calculation you had, like, Dammy's been there a 32 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: long time, been there twenty one years. He won two 33 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: national championships in sixteen and eighteen, two four Final four appearances. 34 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: Nay Smith Coach of the Year twice in the Basketball 35 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, going back to last year he called 36 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: the quits. He walked walked, walked away. What first thing 37 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: you thought when you when you saw the news? It 38 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: surprised me. You knew coach Kay was leaving. This was 39 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: the last dance for him, and I just think the 40 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: fashion in which it happened surprised me. And maybe it 41 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: was just like, hey, you know, he has a love 42 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: for Gillespie and he didn't want to kind of come 43 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: back and do it again. It caught me off guard. 44 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: And sixty is still very young for a coach, and 45 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: a coach of his stature, So I don't get the 46 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: feeling that basketball is out of Jay Wright's future. Maybe 47 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna just try to do some consulting, kind of 48 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: float around and maybe he'll come back to the game. 49 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: But honestly, I was very, very shocked. Doug Um, I 50 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: think I was too. I'm like, I'm surprised. But now 51 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: that I stop and take a breath and like, good 52 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: for him. You know, there's a bunch of layers to it. Okay, 53 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: the first thing is we are we do operate in 54 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: this world where especially college basketball coaches in college football, 55 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: because like those guys are just lifers. Like that's what 56 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: they do. Peel me up off the sideline, like people. 57 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: You have people who don't believe Mike Shachevski will be retired. 58 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: Like he's seventy five years old. He's got a gaggle grandkids, 59 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: he's got you know, rings and Final Fours and money 60 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: and fame, and he coached Team USA and he won 61 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: gold medals and he'll still get people like, no, he's 62 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: he's mad because they lost to Carolina's for us, but 63 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: like he's seventy five, like he's good just because we 64 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I was watching the Joe Paterno 65 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: story that thirty for thirty last night, and what happened 66 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: to Joe Paterno. Obviously I don't want to get into 67 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: the Penn State and that you know that that tragedy. Okay, 68 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: but Joe Paterno, like what we remember if you covered 69 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: it was he retired and then he died shortly thereafter. 70 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: Like this so many of those guys, this is their life, 71 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 1: and I congratulate, like if if Jay rights, like, yeah, 72 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: I'm good. You know, I got a ton of money. 73 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: I got a house on the beach on the Jersey shore. 74 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's got a house somewhere else. I can 75 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: always come back. And if he misses basketball, I'm sure 76 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: he could do He could do television, but you don't 77 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: have to. It's not like he has to do a 78 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: move to television. Like what if I'm just good? What 79 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: if sixty years old is enough? And then but then 80 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: there's the other aspect to it is and I think 81 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: this would be glaring. Is is college basketball and it's 82 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: not the product as much as the process is really 83 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: hard and it's really hard to do it the way 84 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: that Jay has done it, which is if you've ever 85 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: been around them, they're almost like there's almost a little 86 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: bit of it's almost cult like right in the repeating 87 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: of like they go up to each other, they be 88 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: like attitude, attitude, attitude, like that's what players will tell 89 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: each other. They have these little sayings and ways in 90 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: which they do things, and they are completely bought into 91 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: the process of how they want to play. And look it, 92 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: look at mcail bridges and what is it. There's only 93 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: two guys in the NBA that started every game this year. 94 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: They're both Nova guys, right, And then you have him 95 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: Look what Jalen Brunson is doing in the NBA at 96 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: forty one the other night. So what he does and 97 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: how he does it works and wins and losses and 98 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: works for the players. But the question is like, is 99 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: the are the way the way in which the sport 100 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: is going? Would he be able to still do it? 101 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: And even if he's able to still do it and 102 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: be successful, would it not be as much fun? And 103 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: you're just like, I guess that, we don't know. We're 104 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: just speculating, But how much do you think a guy 105 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: walking away at sixty has to do with how how 106 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: his job is changing. Well, here's the deal, Doug. I'll 107 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: cover college basketball the year prior and those pretty much 108 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: I'd say, are gona be two years of COVID one 109 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: year where a championship was canceled. It it took a 110 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: lot of the lifers out of the game. There's a 111 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: and I mean this is just universal beyond sports. A 112 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: lot of you know, tenured positions that were just guys 113 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: were just gonna just live out the rest of their lives. 114 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: COVID gave people a different perspective on life to whether 115 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: they like, do I really want to keep doing Like 116 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who did their nine to fives, 117 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: then they drove into the office and still to this 118 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: day they're like, I'm gonna work from home, I'm gonna 119 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: find ways to work from I'm not going into the 120 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: office anymore if needed. COVID changed a lot, and I 121 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: think that's a big reason why coach Kay was able 122 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: to step down and Jay Wright was able to maybe 123 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: look up and say, dude, I want to spend more 124 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: time with my family while they're here. Dude, I want 125 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: to spend time with grandkids, like he wants to probably 126 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: do things. And people got to see perspectives of themselves 127 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: that they would have never been able to see. And 128 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: that's why I think, like you, we're saying, like Jay 129 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: Wright or coach k they are willing to step away 130 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: from what they once was just a norm. Just your 131 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: just was b Villanova basketball and that's it. And like 132 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: the tax that it put on the kids, the tax 133 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: that it put on the coaches. I mean, like obviously, 134 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: like NBA has a lot of money, so everybody would 135 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: do kind of the bubble. NFL was just kind of 136 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: like we're gonna keep rolling around and just kind of 137 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: figure it out as we go. But college sports were 138 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: decimated during COVID. Dude, Oh, I agree. I agree, And 139 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: I think there's some of that, right, there's some of 140 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: you get to get a little bit of sip of 141 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: the good life. But I also think that we be 142 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: we'd be remiss if we didn't point out that that 143 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: the way in which like coaching is hard. Man. Yeah, 144 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: it just is. Because here's the way it works in 145 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: college basketball. Right, So you know, you got thirteen guys 146 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: on scholarship okay, And generally there's only a couple of 147 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: guys that are truly truly happy anyway. But you know 148 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,679 Speaker 1: the young guys, Hey man, you're young, we're gonna grow you, 149 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna get better, You're gonna sit for a couple 150 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: of years, and then you're gonna play and it's gonna 151 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: be your team. But now, the reason that teams don't 152 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: have good benches is anybody who's sitting there, It's like, 153 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: why would I sit here when I can go somewhere 154 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: else and star and play and maybe get a check 155 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: as well. Right, And then the star level players, well, 156 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: they want to go to the NBA. That's always happened 157 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: and it will continue to happen. And then the mid 158 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: level starters, those guys want to be stars and feel 159 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: like they can be stars elsewhere. Now, that's Villanova is 160 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: one of kind of the classic places where guys do 161 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: continue to assimilate to ascend to a higher level. There's 162 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: a totem pole and guys work their way up, right, 163 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: like Ryan Archidiacino's little brother is there and eventually he'll 164 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: be He'll be a dude. And you see guys that 165 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: get better in the program. But that becomes increasingly difficult 166 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: to find kids and families that buy into something which 167 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: feels foreign to the I want it now, and if 168 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: I don't get it here now, I'll go somewhere else 169 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: and get it there now. Yeah, the trans I think 170 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: the transfer portal hit another high, Like there's so many 171 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: kids in the port right over fourteen kids. Yeah, I 172 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: couldn't imagine being a college coach and like you know, Doug, 173 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: you know it to generate, like if you transferred, like 174 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: it was weak Doug when we played, Like if you transferred, 175 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: you were weak, Like it was like you couldn't make 176 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: it where you're supposed to go. And now it's like, 177 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: well I didn't like my minutes. Like kids transferred now 178 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: for any reason under the sun, the star player, I 179 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: want to play a better players, you know, the lower guy. 180 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna everybody is transferring and you're in this 181 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: spot where it's tough because hey, they're getting paid from nil. 182 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: But at the same time, like it's not like these 183 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: guys are under contract, but as far as getting up 184 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: and going, it just happens. And the grass seems to 185 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: always be greener on the other side. So as a coach, 186 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: you don't have that power, and then you fall into 187 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: a situation, Doug, you know it, Do I sacrifice my 188 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: culture for a kid, for one player and to keep 189 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: them along? Right? Yeah? No, that that that's that's that's 190 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: a brilliant statement. And like, look, people forget you go back. 191 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: I think it was twenty thirteen, right, that was they 192 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: were coming off of the the the Kyle Lowry Final four, 193 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: and they're the best recruiting class ever. And he felt 194 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: like they sacrificed their culture, that number one recruiting class, 195 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: and those guys. They couldn't win with those guys. And 196 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: he got back to what he calls what they call 197 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: okags are kind of guys, right yeah, and get the 198 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: kind of guys that they want to do it the 199 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: way we want to do it. And and what they 200 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: they turned around the program. They've dominated the New Big 201 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: East and they've been the multi you know, to they've 202 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: been to three more final fours, won two national championships, 203 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: and they've changed it. But that that, you know, finding 204 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: guys that want to do it that way becomes increasingly difficult. 205 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: And and then I think, so I don't think there's 206 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: any one reason. I mean, I would guess though that 207 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: the main reason is just like you're like, I'm I'm good, 208 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm I'm good, I'm I'm done, and and you know 209 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: you'll get people say, well, then he coached the Lakers, 210 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: and I just I don't see it. I don't just 211 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: again that that would be sacrificing everything that he had 212 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: done and built and how he had done and built 213 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: it to take a shot at something like the Lakers. 214 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: I think when you walk away and you say I 215 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: need some space and time, you just need space and time. Now, now, Doug, 216 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: what if I'm not saying then nothing's impossible if he 217 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: What if Lebron reached out and just like hey, like 218 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: I'm on board, like let's do this, like that's it, 219 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: Like you got NBA, you gotta be on par with 220 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: players and I and I think it's far fetched, but 221 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: I mean that could be a different element where a 222 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: big game guy and I'm sure Lebron is gonna be 223 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: along this hopefully included in this coaching process for the 224 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: Lakers and say hey, like let's get on the same page, 225 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 1: let's let's work things out. And I'll tell you one 226 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: thing from playing in the NBA, from playing college basketball, 227 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: and Jay right was there. We never got a chance 228 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: to compete against Nova. But you always knowing you alluded 229 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: to this dug earlier, like you always know that Nova 230 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: guys in the league, like Jay Wright creates pros, his concepts, 231 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: Hey get in the lane, be a basketball player, beats 232 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: huff one through five, interchangeable, knocking down at three, putting 233 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: the ball on the deck, defending, pressuring the basketball, recovering, 234 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: not needing help. You know, just there's a lot of 235 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,599 Speaker 1: elements of what Jay Wright teaches that is very transferable. 236 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: You know, he creates champions. You know, he creates Bunsen 237 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: and Lay all those guys. I agree in terms of 238 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: their skill development and really fundamental development, yes, And I 239 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: agree in terms of how they play. I mean, like, look, 240 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: if if we were given the secret sauce, he runs 241 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: like five plays and no, I mean like really, like again, 242 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: I could draw them up. I could tell you what 243 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: they were and you would nod, you go like, oh, yeah, 244 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: we could do those. But but the space in the moment, 245 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: And so I do think there's a simplicity in it 246 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: and the idea of interchangeable pieces that works. And Jay, 247 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: though he's incredibly has been incredibly successful and well regarded 248 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: and well paid, and obviously everybody talks about how smooth 249 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: he looks in the suits. He doesn't walk in carrying 250 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: the ego that some college coaches do. He does not. 251 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: So that would work. The way in which they played 252 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 1: defensively would be completely countered to how they played defensively. 253 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: Most times they load up and help, and so that 254 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: would have to change, and I think it could be changed. 255 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: But the big thing is, like, man, what's allowed nobody 256 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: to be great was culture. And culture is built over 257 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: time and with consistency, and what's been missing from the 258 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: Lakers is, among other things, you can't have any culture 259 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: if you're constantly changing pieces every year. And I just 260 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: don't know if you can have culture when you have 261 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: guys that have been pros for fifty twenty years and 262 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: been successful and have hundreds of millions in the bank 263 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: like those guys. You know, I don't know how that. 264 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think that works. But I do think, 265 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: like if I'm Lebron, like that's a call, that's a 266 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: call I make, Hey, man, you want to talk about this? 267 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: And if he says no, he says no, But you 268 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: gotta can we have a conversation about it. That would 269 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: be fascinating. I don't think he does it. I don't 270 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: think it's a great fit, right, I think there's there 271 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: are other fits that are better. I think, you know, 272 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: finding that last coach for Lebron is going to be 273 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: a task. Do you want somebody who is a contemporary 274 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: in a Juwan Howard? And that would mean Juan Howard 275 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: would have to leave behind the chances of coaching both 276 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: of his two of his sons, right do you? I 277 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: mean I don't. I don't know where they I don't 278 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: know if there's an answer, Like I don't think Doc Rivers. 279 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: Everybody's said Doc Rivers because there's new management right in 280 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, and maybe if they lose in the next round, 281 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: everybody gets unhappy. But do we think Doc Rivers definitely 282 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: would want that? I don't think Nurse would want that. 283 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: Like there's not a ton of options that make complete sense. Yeah, no, 284 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not. Yeah, you know, I'm not sure. 285 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: If you retired at sixty, this is the big question, 286 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: Ryan Hollands, Dog Gottlieb, they have past your show. You're 287 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: retired at sixty, like you wake up the next day 288 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: like my honest thing with retirement is like, well, you know, 289 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna fish and I'm gonna hunt. Like, all right, 290 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: what do you do the next day? What are you 291 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: doing the first week you're off the clock? Like do 292 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: you look at your cell phone? Or you're like, I'm retired. 293 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna look at my phone. I'm just 294 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: gonna go Like what, Ryan Hollands, what do you do 295 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: if I if I retire, Yeah, I'm gonna spend time 296 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: with my kids sixty years old. I'm just wondering what 297 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: you what you do like that? I mean, I guess 298 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: you just go and play just golf, golf, golf and 299 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: you just go to a beach and and just be 300 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: weird to not have when you've always done something. To 301 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: not do something, We'll talk about that a little bit later. 302 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: Your valued customer, you deserve a simple jest of appreciation 303 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: from your credit card company. That's why Discover matches all 304 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: the cash back you've earned at the end of your 305 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: first year. Discover exception, common sense, little more, Discover dot 306 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: Com slash match limitations apply. Bubba Wallace returns to the 307 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: track and he won his first Cup race this past weekend. 308 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: He's gonna join us next. Be sure to catch the 309 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: live edition of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine 310 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: am Eastern six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, in 311 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: the iHeart Radio WAPP, Doug Glli, Brian Hans in for 312 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: Dan then at Stan Patrick Show Fox Sports Radio. So 313 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: last weekend, NASCAR did something pretty cool. Okay, so Bristol 314 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: Motor Speedway which has the just the high pitched ovals. Right, 315 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: they raced on dirt. They raced on dirt. And what 316 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: you may have missed was Tyler Reddick was he was 317 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: about to get his first win, gets gets tangled up, 318 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: crash as Kyle Bush comes in and wins the race. 319 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: And there's this there's this photo that was on social 320 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 1: media of Bubba Wallace and of course Bubba Wallace um 321 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: joins us now on the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 322 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Bubba consoling Tyler after the race. Bubba, thanks 323 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: so much for joining us. Hope you're really really well 324 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,239 Speaker 1: and had a had a great Easter weekend. What did 325 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: you say to Tyler after the race? Yeah, good morning. Um, 326 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: you know, I've I've been REDOCKONNIZED, had a couple run 327 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,479 Speaker 1: ins throughout our career. Um, but we've we were we 328 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: were somewhat teammates um the last few years, and so 329 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: getting a note Tyler and understand who he is and 330 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: how he races. I've definitely respected his craft and his uh, 331 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: his experience coming up through. And I found out that 332 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: Kyler and I raced against each other, um when we 333 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: were kids. But I didn't even realize that until I've 334 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: seen a result sheet from back in two thousand and 335 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: like four or five, So I thought that was pretty interesting. Um. 336 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: But seeing how he's been close, He's been close a 337 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: lot of times this year and a few times last 338 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: year to get in that first win. I mean, I 339 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: know how special the first win is and and uh 340 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: and how long it takes and how hard it is 341 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: to get And I was unfortunately, um, we had motor 342 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: problems there at the end of the race. So I 343 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: was a few laps down and the leaders had just 344 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: passed me going into three. So I've seen it all 345 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: happening and unfolding, and I was like, oh no, And 346 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: I thought he had enough to enough gaps to get 347 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: back going and and Kyle Bush just beat him out. 348 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: And so I can only feel, you know, what he 349 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: was going through or imagine what he was going through. 350 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: But hell, and I walked up to him, he was 351 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: he was okay, you know, And and I heard his comments, um, 352 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: you know on the radio is radio transaction? Um? And 353 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: he's a lot like me, and and looking at scenarios 354 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 1: where well, why did I put myself in that situation 355 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: to let that happen? And so it's a lot of 356 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,719 Speaker 1: self reflect instead of being mad at someone else, it 357 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: was like, well, yeah, I never should have let him 358 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: get an opportunity to do that to me, and so 359 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: I respected him even more after that. So I just 360 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: told him like, hey, man, keep the faith and it's 361 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: going to happen rather sooner than later. Babba, How are 362 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: you setting somebody sort of a teammate? What is it? Like? 363 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 1: How does that work? Say that again? You said we 364 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: were sort of teammates the past couple. Oh yeah, this 365 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: sort of teammates. So I raced for Richard Petty in 366 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: the forty three for UM since twenty eighteen to twenty twenty, 367 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: and we had an affiliation with Richard Childre's racing, so 368 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: who Tyler drove for. And so once he got to 369 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,239 Speaker 1: the cup level, we were in debrief meetings, we were 370 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: talking about our cars and stuff because we had that 371 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: that relationship and that affiliation, so they were they were 372 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: helping us. Ourcr was like the mother ship kind of 373 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: like how we are right now twenty three eleven and 374 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: j g R kind of being the mothership Bubba. First off, 375 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: Ryan Hollands, you're big fan, brother, big fan, love love 376 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: your work, man, So you talk. Michael Jordan left you 377 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: a voicemail, Man, how did you miss MJ's call? Dude? 378 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: And like, are there any more stories because your story 379 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: and celebrity just kind of blew up. I don't want 380 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: to say overnight. I respect the crap, but you are 381 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: like the household name of NASCAR, Like how did that 382 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: come about? And are there any other cool stories that 383 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: we don't know about where you're like, dude, this is 384 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 1: this is bigger than me. Yeah, no, there was you 385 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: know a lot of stuff that went on in twenty twenty. 386 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: Uh you know, I Talladega obviously that got my name 387 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: out there, and and uh I indirectly, you know, wanted 388 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: to be a part of just so happened to be 389 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: at the forefront of all that. And um, you know 390 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: that that really you know, kind of put a spotlight 391 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: on who I am and who I am as a 392 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: driver and as a person. And then you know, we 393 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: come back and win at Talladega last year, and that 394 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: just kind of ranted things up again. And I think 395 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: I left my phone in the bus. Usually I take 396 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: it out to get road with me, but this was 397 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: a Monday race as a reskens of race because of 398 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: the rain, and it was just me and the dog chilling, 399 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: and so I left my phone in the bus, and 400 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: after the race was called, shoot, I didn't get my 401 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: phone until like two hours after I forgot the numbers 402 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: that I had. I think it was I don't know, 403 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: I think it was four hundred text messages or something 404 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: around that, and then about forty miss calls and about 405 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: twenty voicemails and one of them was m jat so 406 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: I think he called, you know, right right when they 407 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: called the race, but I didn't have my phone on me, 408 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: so that's the reason I missed it. But um, but yeah, 409 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: I think, you know, those things happening, and then obviously 410 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: the Netflix documentary that we dropped in late February this year, 411 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: UM just continue to rise my name and so it's 412 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: been cool to see it's definitely gone through a lot 413 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: of ups and downs, and and my mentions and comments 414 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: are getting less hate, which is good. I think that's 415 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: more because of the block button that I use all 416 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 1: the times. Um but uh but yeah, I think you 417 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: just you deal with things that they come at you 418 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: in that moment and learn from it move on. Yeah. 419 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: So you so you block, you don't mute? Like, what's 420 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: the decision like that I block? Do I mute? I 421 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: have friends and say mute muting sometimes fun? Blocking sometimes fun? 422 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: What's the what's the breakdown of block to mute ratio? Now? 423 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: If I see ignorance, which that's one hundred percent of 424 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: what it is, I just block them. Yeah, so it's fun. 425 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: What's what's the point? Right exactly? People are coming at 426 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: you with a inanimate object as their profile picture, so 427 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: it's like, man, you got the best is when you 428 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: click on their bio and it's like Christian loving like 429 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,719 Speaker 1: use like yeah, it's man, It's just what are these 430 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 1: people like? They have a lot more time, but they 431 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: obviously don't want to spend it widely? Um, okay, so 432 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: so you let obviously you can't text and drive, right, 433 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 1: that's right? So, but but how I this is and 434 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: this is completely interesting to me, And I don't know 435 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: if potitionally you guys, like I find that during times 436 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: in which I can't text, like it's it's actually like freeing, 437 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: Like I don't I want I coach you basketball on 438 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: the weekend. It's like an AU program Like I one 439 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: time I coached like four games. Like, man, why do 440 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: I feel so good? I was like, Man, I'm in 441 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: my phone all day. But when you get done with 442 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: the race, how how much do you feed to get 443 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: to get on that on that thing to communicate with 444 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: with the rest of the world. Yeah, I mean it's 445 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: it's pretty quick for me. But at the same time, 446 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: it's like, all we had a bad race. Let me 447 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: stay off social media before I see something that pisses 448 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: me off more or I say something wrong, it's going 449 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: to piss off the team or the sponsors. So sometimes 450 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: I'll just answer a few text messages or hew. The 451 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: new thing now it is playing wordle, So we're we're 452 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: always Amanda and out there. We're always at a competitive 453 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: level of who's gonna get word the fastest and so um. 454 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: Other than that, man, you know, it's just just catching 455 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: up on I guess not really emails because I'm terrible. 456 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: I have seven thousand emails that I haven't opened up. 457 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, so so, um, have you ever gotten 458 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: wordle in two words? Yeah? I've gotten it three or 459 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: four times? Wow? Now what's your streak? Have you ever 460 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: not gotten it? I have? I have. I got a 461 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: new phone recently. That's the worst. I did it too, 462 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: and it resets your thing and you're like, wait, I 463 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: had a str I was on thirty one in a row. 464 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: What happened? Yeah? It reset? So right now I think 465 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: I am. I think I'm on a pretty good streak. 466 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: I am. I'm on thirty one current streak right now. 467 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: No losses, which is good. My most common is ten 468 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: or four, ten, ten tries on four. All right, well 469 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: make sure you guys check out the guy go five hundred. 470 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: That's Talladega's super Speedway. This time did three pm Eastern 471 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: on Fox. But but let me ask you something. Man. 472 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: In the NBA, you always get a feel like, hey, 473 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: we got a chance to win a championship this year, 474 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: and Doug knows is even beyond this, Like everything has 475 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: to go right. The culture has to be good, no 476 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: nonsense off the floor. The guys need to five if 477 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: you have any anything going on, Like you got to 478 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: put it aside, like how hard is it from your 479 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: standpoint with your team to go out and win win 480 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: a race? Like does everything have to go right? Like 481 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: is it there's a little bit of fortune? I believe 482 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: sometimes in those championship runs, like when you won, what 483 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: does it come down to? And how hard is it? Really? 484 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: It's it's really relatable to to to the other other leagues, 485 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: and um, you know there's We've had I think nine 486 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: nine races so far this year out of thirty six, 487 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: and and I've made a few mistakes. I crashed in 488 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: our car in California and practice that put us behind. Um, 489 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: I've had three three loose wheels, um that that that 490 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: have cost us a lot, and just other mistakes that 491 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: we just haven't as a team. We haven't been firing 492 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: on all cylinders. And um, if you didn't know that, 493 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: and motor racing, all cylinders are not firing, then you're 494 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: usually having a bad day, whether that's metaphorically or actual. Um. 495 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: But um, but yeah, I think we we just got 496 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: to do a lot of cleaning up and and and 497 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: looking at how we can be better. A lot of 498 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: self reflected That's what Denny's big on is is, Yeah, 499 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: there's there's mistakes that that happened that are out of 500 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: your control, but at the same time you've got to 501 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: self reflect and see how you can be better in 502 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: those as well. So I appreciate that that wisdom from 503 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 1: him and that makes you be better because you know, everybody, 504 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: it's easy for everybody to point to blame it at 505 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: one thing, especially when it's not your fault. But in 506 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: this world, we are a team and we all surround 507 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: each other and try to uplift everybody when they, dude, 508 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: make that mistake. So um, so we just have to 509 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: get everything going. I mean, it seems like when a 510 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: race is going really well, something happens. You know, we 511 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: were running okay at Bristol last weekend and uh, you know, 512 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: we had our motor overheating problems that put us four 513 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: or five laps down and so that was that was 514 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: the end of our day. So it's just little things 515 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,719 Speaker 1: like that. It seems like the bad luck streak has 516 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: following us. So hopefully we can break that this weekend. 517 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: At our best track it was you you you want 518 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: here to track that you you know, you won with 519 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: a damage car last time around, last thing, and I 520 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: know you gotta go. I was just looking online. There's 521 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: these new Air Jordan one stashes. Have you guys seen these. 522 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: It's like almost like a fanny pack on the back 523 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: of Air Jordan ones where you can like you could 524 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: put Bubby, you can put your cell phone in or stash. 525 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: Like every everyone in sports is now going back to 526 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: the old school. Air Jordan's your go to, your your 527 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: go to Jordan's. Just tell me what they are for me. 528 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: I'm I'm Columbia man, I represent Columbia, so uh, it's 529 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: different game. Everybody thinks, you know, being on the team 530 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: with with MJ we're the Jordan brand. But we've we've 531 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: formed a great relationship with with Columbia Sports where and 532 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: I've been rocking that so uh, you know, I mean, 533 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: I have a couple pair of Jay's, but I think 534 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: the ones are the easiest to go about. But it's 535 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: all about Columbia and I like the Columbia like the 536 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: Columbia gear. Hopefully we see in Checkers this weekend on Fox. Bubba, 537 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us. Be safe. Okay, all right, thanks, 538 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: but Bubba Wallace joining us, I thought that was It 539 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: was a cool moment last week when when when a 540 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: guy crashes and he goes up to him and I 541 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: think he thought he was consoling. He was like, no, 542 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,719 Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm I'm I'm I'm good. I'm good. By 543 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: the way, have you seen these air Jordan stashes? No? 544 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: Check check my Twitter. I just liked. It feels kind 545 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: of obvious. It feels kind of obvious what some dudes 546 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: will use them for. I guess you can use them 547 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: for cash as well, with cash, and that's actually good 548 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,479 Speaker 1: for you for cash for your kid, right because they 549 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: they take off and now all you got to do 550 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: have your cell phone. I don't know if you can 551 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: fit your cell phone in that thing. Um, I like them. 552 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: I just bought. I just bought some ones recently, some 553 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: Jordan ones. Yeah which ones they were. They're like a 554 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: denim and red there there's so many different I think 555 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: the ones have to be the most I guess color 556 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: friendly or different models, but uh yeah, like a like 557 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: a denim and red is. I hadn't bought some shoes 558 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: in a long time. I guess I spoiled myself. But yeah, no, 559 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: these I'd rock them. It's it's gotta be weird, like 560 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: for people to understand when you're a hooper, and especially 561 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: at Ryan's level, like I would guess there was twenty 562 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: years where you never bought, never bought sneakers. Yeah you know, 563 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: you know it, you know, and you don't have to 564 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: worry about Jordan's and stuff like that. And it kind 565 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: of really irritated me to a sense because as a kid, 566 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: I would spend my last money or money we didn't 567 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: have to, you know, get that one pair of Jordan's. 568 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, I've got like crates and boxes full of 569 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: Jordan's and you know, thank god they're timeless, right yeah, yeah, Well, like, dude, 570 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: you want I don't even know were you even alive 571 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: when the air Jordan ones came out because because that 572 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: was just born the year I was born eighty four, man, 573 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: eighty I think it was eight, must have been eighty 574 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: five now it was a little bit later letter and 575 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: they were still out like in eighties. I think it 576 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: was like eighty six or something. And I actually shared 577 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: a pair now I might have been eighty five. I 578 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: shared a pair of Jordan's with my sister. Yeah, she 579 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: was in ninth grade playing junior high basketball, and my 580 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: dad was like, look, I can't be buying you want 581 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: some game shoes. You guys can both get my games. 582 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: We'll he'll share them. Okay. So we wore the same 583 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: size at the time. She's five years older than me, 584 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: and we we shared a para George's. The only problem 585 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: was her junior ninth grade was junior high school basketball then, 586 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: and they played outdoors, and so like she's like, oh, 587 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: here's I was like one of those you tore up 588 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: my shoes, tore up my shoes, tore u by Jordan's um. 589 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: All right, I'm coming up next. I want to get 590 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: into this with you. Right. I had uh Stanley Johnson 591 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: who made the Lakers this year on my podcast, and 592 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: I had we had Robert Orion Jase dow Was this 593 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: two days ago? Right? It was two days ago on 594 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: the Dan Patrick Show, Okay, And both of them had 595 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: kind of the same perspective on Russell Westbrook and the Lakers. 596 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: And I'm interested in your perspective. Okay, what do you 597 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: what do you do if you're the Lakers and you 598 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: have a guy who's a former MVP three straight years 599 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: he averager triple double. All right, we're talking about Jordan. 600 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: He's a Jordan Brand guy. But what do you what 601 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: do you do if you're the Lakers and you have 602 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: that gigantic contract that'll be one year left. Wait to 603 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: hear what both of them said about Russell Westbrook and 604 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: what they would do it, and then I'll get your 605 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: reaction with Ryan Hollins. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is Dan 606 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: Patrick Show. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk 607 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at 608 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 609 00:31:53,680 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: Search FSR to listen live Fox Sports Right Along with 610 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: Ryan Hollins, I'm Doug gottlie We'll get you back to 611 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: the top of the hour. At top of the hour 612 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: as Boston comes back to beat the Nets down seventeen. 613 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: They come back and beat the Nets ticket the commanding 614 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: two games to none. Lead Shohio. Tony's kind a brilliant 615 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: night and how we balanced that off against Clayton Kirkshaw 616 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: getting pulled last week with a with a with a 617 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: perfect game. But I want to ask you, Ryan about 618 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: one of the conundrums in sports in the upcoming off season. Right, 619 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: It's like, what do you do if you're the Lakers 620 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: and what do you do with Russell Westbrook? Robert Rory 621 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: joined US two days ago. He said this about Westbrook, Um, 622 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: it's about getting a chance to go out there and 623 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: play and do things if you can out of I 624 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: can't name all the guys, but there's a history of 625 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: guys that have been playing for others. To us is 626 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: up in age, but it's been a history of guys 627 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: that have gone to other teams and floors because the 628 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: system didn't fit them. I think with Westbrook, he had 629 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: to be a person that is in a situation where 630 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: he can dominate the ball, and I don't think he 631 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: and Lebron had enough time on the court together where 632 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: they can understand who's going to dominate the basketball. And 633 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: I think Lebron should refer to Westbrook last season a 634 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: little more because Lebron is so dynamic without the ball. 635 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: He can post up, he can do all these other things. 636 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: But it was it was hard for day one because 637 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: if you remember, they never played together, they only played 638 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: like twenty games together. Needed a big D M a D. 639 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:44,479 Speaker 1: So it was a hard Yeah, you heard me reacting 640 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: in the background. I'm like more of Russell Westbrook and 641 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: putting him on the basketball. Is that? Is it? The system? 642 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,719 Speaker 1: Is the time together that'll fix it? Is that what 643 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: you do? Look there, man, there's a lot of factors 644 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: in this equation. And you know I talked about it earlier, Doug. 645 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: The middle class was gone, the injuries mounted up, and 646 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: the thing about me playing I played against Lebron, I 647 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: played against Russ. Russ like my little brother. Both those 648 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: two have had success, the most success in their careers 649 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: when they have defenders around them, when they have a 650 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: shot blocker, a clean up guy, two guys on the wing, 651 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: three and d guys, two guys committed to defending. When 652 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: you have the ball in your hands and your high usage, 653 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: you can't afford to play the same level of defense 654 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: that you'd like to, so you need people around you 655 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: cleaning up your mistakes. When we played the Rockets, played 656 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: and I cover the game and called the game. The 657 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: Lakers this year, you would see a play happen and 658 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: then you'd kind of see Westbrook and Lebron look at 659 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: each other and it's like, well, I'm not the hustle guy. 660 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna dive on the floor. You know you're 661 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: gonna dive on the floor. You know there's there's kind 662 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: of only one of those guys that you can have 663 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: on the floor at the same time. And I think 664 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: what Russ does is gonna work for Russ. And he's 665 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: been in systems, which I agree with Rob said, that 666 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: have worked for him. But I think the Lakers, if 667 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna come together, they're gonna have to figure out, Hey, 668 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: this is what it is. You're gonna have the coaches 669 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: say if Russ stays, this is how it's gonna work. 670 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: And I think even bigger than that from a from 671 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: a human aspect, from a player aspect, Doug, and you 672 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: notice if the word is I'm gonna be moved and 673 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be in the organization or with the 674 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: team anymore, which is respectable because that happens. It's sports. 675 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: There's no hard feelings, and I know Russ there's no 676 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: hard feelings with that. And then I'm not moved and 677 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: you come back to the locker room. It's a very 678 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: awkward situation. It's very it's very touchy. It's kind of like, uh, 679 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 1: it's it's the pink elephant in the room always. And 680 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: I think that's what you really saw in the second 681 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: half of the season with a Laker, So they're gonna 682 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: have to figure out a decision. And I don't think 683 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: they're beyond keeping Russ and trying their best to make 684 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: your work ultimately, but you're gonna have to have one 685 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: of those just keep it roll real moments where everybody 686 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: sits down, iron's out their differences and talks and gets 687 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: on the same page. And you could tell that mentally 688 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: and emotionally, that was a team that had been, you know, 689 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: kind of distant from each other and it ended up 690 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 1: showing on the court. I don't think there's any question 691 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: they were not cohesive. You know, you start talking about 692 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: moving pieces and guys take it personal, and not every 693 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: guy is gonna not every guy's going to handle that well. 694 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: But even if they do handle it well and work 695 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,959 Speaker 1: it all out, Like his shooting has gotten worse, not better, 696 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 1: He's he's not the defender that his reputation would tell 697 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: you he is. And why would you play him on 698 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,280 Speaker 1: the ball when you have Lebron James Like that doesn't 699 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: make any sense? Well, and there's just I mean, he 700 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: can't shoot, so you're kind of playing four on five. 701 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I don't know how he I 702 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: don't know how you double down on it. I just 703 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: I just don't like, yeah, yeah, well, here's here's the 704 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: given to take. You brought in Westbrook because you knew 705 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: what you wanted was, let's say Lebron sits twenty year 706 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: SOL games. You wanted a guy who can go in 707 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: at least, you know, win seventy five percent of those games, 708 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 1: or win the games you're supposed to win with Lebron 709 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: not in the lineup, and it didn't happen, and you 710 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: you what, was Lebron needing energy? So when to get 711 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: up and down, so when to push the ball, get 712 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: easy baskets. That was kind of the mindset. But not 713 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: having Anthony Davis, who really would have been Russa's best 714 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: friend because russ loves the pass. He loves to set 715 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: people up in with Anthony Davis loves to be set up. 716 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis can play a lot of one on one, 717 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: but Doug, we know this. Anthony Davis is one of 718 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: the better finishers in the league. He can pop out 719 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: and shoot the three, he can die, he can rimroll, 720 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: he can play off of the basketball. It would have 721 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: been a good fit, but you just never got to 722 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: see enough of those guys on the floor. And like 723 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna allude to it again, that middle 724 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: class being gone, the hustle guy, the three and D guy, 725 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: the you know, the James Jones is, the Mike Miller's, 726 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: the you know hey, the amand Schumpert's that Lebron has 727 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 1: had or you know hey, even if look they had looked, 728 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: they had Ryan, they had KCP and they had Alex Crew. 729 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,720 Speaker 1: So those are two best perimeter defenders and they're gone. 730 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: Those guys are those guys are gone. It changes everything, 731 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: changes everything, and replaced with Russell who's not a good defender. 732 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: And you can and you can tell me, I would 733 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: respect if you told me I'm dead wrong. All Right, 734 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: I respect you. You covered every game and you played 735 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: in the league or whatever. But from what I've seen 736 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: and what I've been told is it's more it's a 737 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 1: reputation thing when the reality is screws up. Reputation screws 738 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: up rotations, dies on screens. You know, plays hard in spurts, 739 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of times in which it ain't great. 740 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 1: Plus he's had forty surgeries, he's in his mid thirties, 741 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: he's been a superstar. He hasn't had to do a 742 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 1: lot of those little things the other guys have to do, right, 743 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 1: Lebron's not the same defender. Um. The Anthony Davis being 744 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: hurt absolutely derailed him. But I agree the idea was, hey, 745 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: Lebron sits or Lebron's on the bench and they need 746 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: somebody to carry him. The problem is that Russell Westbrook 747 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: can't carry anymore. With the league, you have to be 748 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 1: able to shoot the basketball. He's not a good finisher. 749 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: He's a high turnover guy, and the shooting has gotten worse, 750 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: not better. Like, I just don't see it. Here's the 751 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: thing about Russ's defense that I'll clear up. Russ is 752 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: allowed to gamble when he's on the floor with four 753 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 1: other guys who play solid, or you gotta Steven Adams, 754 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: who he's had, or you know, when he was younger, 755 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: a guy Nick Collinson on the back line. You get 756 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So like when I played with Tony Allen, 757 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: I knew I had Tony's an amazing defender, but I 758 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: knew I had to sacrifice my gambling instincts or my 759 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: instincts to kind of get out of position and take 760 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 1: a risk because I knew Tony was going to take 761 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 1: a risk. I knew that Tony would be guarding a 762 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 1: shooter and at the last moment he was going to 763 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: shoot the gap. So I would have to open up 764 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: so that Tony Allen shoot a gap. So when you 765 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: bring that up transferred over to Russell Westbrook, Russell Westbrook 766 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: wasn't a good defender or he could make certain plays. 767 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: Obviously with health and defense comes with a lot of 768 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: effort because you had four guys behind them that would 769 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: cover up those mistakes or be solid. And you know, 770 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,320 Speaker 1: I always believe that great passers have great instincts to 771 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: get still, so much like Lebron, Lebron can gut in 772 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 1: the passing lane and go get a slam dunk. You 773 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: know they can make those reads because you know you 774 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: got four of the guys behind you that have to 775 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: play solid. So in those terms, yes, you will see 776 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: great defensive plays out of those two because they're they're big, 777 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: they're strong, they're athletic, and then yeah, you're afforded to 778 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: make those gambles that you normally may not be able 779 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: to make. So when Restwood now gambles and he's on 780 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: the floor with Lebron, or a unit says not cohesive. 781 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: It looks very glaring, where before all those other Oka 782 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: SA teams are just like like, okay, he made he 783 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 1: made a hustle play, they scrambled and then the team 784 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: kind of figured it out behind him. If that makes sense, Yeah, no, 785 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: I mean I get it. I mean that's how all 786 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: those teams are built. You know, when Iverson went to 787 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: the finals, that team was built where everybody else is 788 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: great defenders and he could just try and get steals. Yes, 789 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: and obviously Staff has never been even what Russ was 790 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 1: at his peak, but that's really the that's kind of 791 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 1: what Golden State has always been able to do. Where 792 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: he's able to They don't switch, and he can occasionally 793 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: float and get a steal, but you hide him a 794 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: little bit, and then you have four other dudes because 795 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: he brings so much at the offensive end. I just 796 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: don't know if what he brings at the offensive end 797 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: is good enough. And I don't think that they have 798 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: the other, you know parts defensively as you pointed out, 799 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: to make up for that. It is that if if 800 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: if you're if Rob Polinka calls you and says, do 801 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,919 Speaker 1: we move him? We keep him and I know it's 802 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,879 Speaker 1: not that simple because you got to get something back 803 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: in return. What would your first reaction be, best deal? 804 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: Best deal? If we can move him, we get the 805 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 1: right deal, we're gonna make that play and we'll take 806 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,439 Speaker 1: the wiggle room. But you're not gonna move him just 807 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,959 Speaker 1: for anything, you know. And this is what is tough 808 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 1: with the Lakers. There is a deal on the table, 809 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: but the Lakers didn't want to give up a first 810 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: round pick. So it's like, yeah, we've kind of been 811 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: strapped from first round picks, and now do we go 812 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 1: deeper into the hole or do we come back and 813 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 1: make this thing work. I think they may be I 814 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: don't want to say I don't think they have options. 815 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: I think they may have to make it work. Dug Like, seriously, 816 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: it may not be on a table, all right. We'll 817 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: get to that up coming. Coming up next. 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