1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to stuff Mom never told you. From how Stuff 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Works dot Com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Kristen and I'm Caroline, and today we're talking about sleepwalking. Caroline, 4 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: did you ever sleepwalk once? Exactly? Well that I remember 5 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: you look so proud of yourself. I just think it's 6 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: ridiculous because I yeah, and it's sleepwalking. As we'll get into, 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: it's so common in children. But I only did it 8 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: once that I can call. And it's because I woke 9 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: up at the top of the stairs. Yeah, like I 10 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: had gotten out of bed and walked to the top 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: of the stairs. Was like, oh, I'm gonna go back 12 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: to bed. I did a lot of I do and 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: still do a lot of sleep hand movements. Like when 14 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: I worked for the newspaper, I would have these terrible 15 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: work stress dreams and wake up because I was using 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: my hands to lay out the newspaper. And and sometimes 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: I would wake myself up doing um sleep handwater guns. 18 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: That's awesome. That's officially the best sleep jet sure I've 19 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: ever heard of. Yeah, but no, no, no sleepwalking stories 20 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: beyond that. Listen. I don't want to one up you. 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: But I slept walked sleepwalked. Is that the past tense leepwalked? 22 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: I sleep walked as a child A lot, kind of 23 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: a lot it was, only it was it was a 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: fairly brief face. I'm thinking maybe I don't know six 25 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: months to a year, but it happened a lot when 26 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: it started, and I vaguely remember. And maybe I say 27 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: I remember because my siblings thought that it was polarious 28 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: the next day, um, because I had we had a 29 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: pet ferret. And there, I mean, I can hear like 30 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: a collective. Yeah, I just made a face. We had 31 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: a pet ferret. And I got up out of bed, 32 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: and my my parents live in the like a ranch 33 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: style house with a really long haul. It's a long, long, 34 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: lean house. And my my room was at one end 35 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: of the hall, and so I got up, started walking 36 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: on the hall, be lined over to my ferrets cage, 37 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: grabbed my ferret and kept on walking up to the 38 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: living room, where presumably the older members of the family, 39 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: older siblings and my parents were up watching TV or something. 40 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: And I walked up to my oldest sister and I 41 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: held out my ferret and I asked her what kind 42 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: of plant it was, at which point she realized that 43 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: I was sleepwalking. And so the cure for my sleepwalking 44 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: always if if I went to my parents room, because inevitably, 45 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: with like four siblings, you know, I'm going to run 46 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: into somebody at some point in the house. So let 47 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: someone to run into me. They would take me to 48 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: the bathroom. It would score me to my bathroom and uh, 49 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: and I would pee and I go back to bed. 50 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,559 Speaker 1: Would be great. Um. So so that was my sleepwalking. 51 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: But I don't think that it has happen and since then, 52 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: and I really hope it doesn't happen now because I 53 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: live alone and that would be weird. Yeah, get up 54 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: and bother your neighbors about their pets. Excuse me, Look 55 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: at a plant do you have? I'm holding like a 56 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: feral cat in the neighborhood. So why don't we figure 57 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: out what was going on with these Parasomnia's nice word, 58 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: which are disruptive sleep disorders, including sleep walking, which occurred 59 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: during arousals from either rem sleep or partial arousals from 60 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: non rem sleep. And since we've talked about parasomnia, is 61 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: also sleep walking, specifically as a parasomnia referred to as somnambulism. 62 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: Sounds so nice, So anyone's stating for their g R 63 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: or s a t out there somnambulism. Yeah. And if 64 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: anybody wants to come up with a word for sleep 65 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: finger guns, let me know. Um. So, sleep walking most 66 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: often occur is during the deep non REM sleep early 67 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: in the night. But if it occurs during REM sleep, 68 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: it's actually part of REM behavior disorder intends to happen 69 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: near morning. So years happened mine would be at night. 70 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: It would be within the first couple of hours of 71 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: me falling asleep. Um. And when it happens in the 72 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: during the REM cycle later on in the night or 73 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: into the early morning, it's actually more dangerous. And one 74 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: thing that got us thinking about sleepwalking to I went 75 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: to go see Mike Barbiglia of This American Life Fame, 76 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: What's Up Other awesome podcast and radio show. I saw 77 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: his movie Sleepwalk with Me, which is about his REM 78 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: behavior disordered sleepwalk. Didn't he walk through a window in 79 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: which he ends up walking through a window? Actually, well, 80 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: he ran through a window because I think he needs 81 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: some from the Marsha to get you through a plane 82 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: of glass. Um. But typically these bouts will last ten 83 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: minutes or less, and it's most commonly seen in kids, 84 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: it's ages eight to twelve, but it can happen obviously 85 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: at any age, as can sleep, water guns, Yeah, exactly, 86 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: or sleep newspaper designing. Um and children see there. The 87 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: thing is, they're not sure exactly what causes sleepwalking. It's 88 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,679 Speaker 1: just it's super common. Your brain is just doing something weird. 89 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: But they think in children it's possibly related to fatigue 90 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: and lack of sleep or anxiety. In adults, they tend 91 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: to tie it to alcohol, sedatives, or other medications like 92 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: ambient and specifically which we'll get into, also medical conditions 93 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: and mental disorders. In the elderly, it can be a 94 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 1: symptom of organic brain syndrome, also known as just having 95 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: basically decreased mental function due to a disease of some 96 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: kind or rim behavior disorders. Yeah. And one of the 97 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: more recent findings about this is that sleepwalking is in 98 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: fact hereditary, which means if I have a child, oh man, 99 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: their door, does anyone does your mother or father's sleepwalk? 100 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: I don't think so. As far as I know, I was, 101 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: I've been the only child in my family to exhibit sleepwalking. Um. 102 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: But maybe maybe you had famous sleepwalking grandparents, famous ones 103 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: that I don't know about them. But there was a 104 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: study that came out in two thousand eleven from the 105 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: Washington University School of Medicine, UH, in which they studied 106 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: four generations of a sleep walking family. I kind of 107 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: it was a great study background just because it was 108 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: all about this family of sleepwalkers, intense sleepwalkers. There go 109 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: the Smiths walking down the street again or all in 110 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: their pajamas. Uh. And they were able to trace this 111 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: sleep walking down to a section of chromosome twenty. But 112 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: they're not sure which jean exactly was responsible for the 113 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: sleepwalking because on chromosome twenty you got a bunch of 114 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: jeans still to choose from all these genes. Yeah, and 115 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: then stamp for it in spring twelve fact us up 116 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: they found it more than a third of sleepwalkers do 117 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: have a family history of the disorder, which is very interesting. Yeah, 118 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: supposedly someone with the gene I E me, surely I 119 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: have this gene. I mean, and I'm not just trying 120 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,559 Speaker 1: to like be a well, I must have this gene. 121 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: But I assume that I have this gene, uh, my 122 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: offspring will have a fifty percent chance of getting it. 123 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: I kind of hope that if I do have a kid, 124 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: one of them does, because that sounds hilarious, like a 125 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: kid walking around with pets asking strange questions. UM. But 126 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: in terms of gender, it's probably not going to make 127 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: much of a difference if I were to have a 128 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: boy child or a girl child, because a lot of 129 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: these studies say that there's no gender component to it. 130 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: Although a study published in Neurology UH had something different 131 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: to say. Yeah, it found that childhood sleepwalking was significantly 132 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: more frequent in women. Um. They found that it occurred 133 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: often in two point eight percent of women and just 134 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: two percent of men, and sometimes in six point nine 135 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: percent of women and five point seven percent of men. 136 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: So not a huge difference, but this study did point 137 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 1: out there was a bit of a difference for women. Yeah, 138 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: And I think it's worth noting too that that study 139 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: was based on data from the finished twin cohort that 140 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: followed around I think it was something around a lot 141 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: of people pairs of of finished twins, and it's it's 142 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: often used as a really solid data set for UM 143 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: kind of figuring out behavioral patterns. But again, you know, 144 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: a lot of times we'll still see no no gender component. Um, 145 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: but what do sleepwalkers do besides finger guns? Yes? I 146 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: mean really, they just get up and walk around. Yeah, 147 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: you know, there's often the kind of the film trope 148 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: of walking around like a zombie. It was um step 149 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: others where they get up and throw all their presents 150 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: on the Christmas tree in their parents room. Have you 151 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: seen that? No? I have not seen that recommend YouTube. 152 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: Um but a lot of times the symptoms of sleepwalking. 153 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: I find it kind of funny that they are symptoms 154 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: of sleepwalking. Would the symptoms be walking around when you're 155 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: sleep but thank you Mayo Clinic for clearing things up, 156 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: acting confused or disoriented when they wake up, having a 157 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: blank look on their face. What kind of plant is it? 158 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: Would I imagine opening their eyes during sleep, not remembering 159 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: the sleepwalking episode and saying, here we go, saying things 160 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: that don't make sense. Yeah. Well, my freshman roommate didn't sleepwalk. 161 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it would have been possible, actually, because 162 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: our dorm room was so small. But she would sleep 163 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: talk all the time. And that girl would wake me 164 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: up having conversations and I'd set up and be like, 165 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: what what what did you say? And She's like the eggs. 166 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: Did you get the eggs? We they're green, we need 167 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: to cook them. And she would have a whole conversation 168 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: about the flipping eggs, and I'd be like, God, Lauren, 169 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: I got a test in the morning, and then you'd 170 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: wake up wanting egg Yeah. God, a cycle just created 171 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: a cycle. But sleepwalkers can get themselves into troubles. But 172 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: really the only potential complication from sleepwalking is hurting yourself 173 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: if you had kept going over the cliff when roll 174 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: down those stairs. Um, one time I was in my sleep. 175 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: I don't know that this could be attributed to sleepwalking, 176 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: but I did roll off the top bunk and fall 177 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: onto onto my desk chair. Child. Did you break yourself? No, 178 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: but I got a pretty sweet bruise. It looks kind 179 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: of cool. Um. And it's also it's not dangerous. This 180 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: is a big myth. It's out there. It is not 181 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: dangerous to wake up a sleepwalker. Yeah. I think the 182 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: worst that you would get is them being really kind 183 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: of scared and confused as to why they're standing up 184 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: in the hall with a ferret. Yeah, but it'll it'll 185 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: it fades away. Um. And according to the National Sleep Foundation, 186 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: about ten percent of Americans reports some erratic nighttime behaviors 187 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: like eating, walking, talking, having sex, or even becoming violent 188 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: when they're sleep. Yeah, we haven't even touched on and 189 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: aren't going to in this episode touched on night terrors 190 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: and sleep violence. I've had one night r I get. 191 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: I don't know why I have these, like individual little things, 192 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: but I'll save it. It just didn't really involve me 193 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: sitting up screaming and the being like, oh, okay, well anyway, 194 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: but yes, the one that I think is the most entertaining, 195 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: I'm I'm really sorry if that's insensitive. But one that 196 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: I think is interesting, I guess I should say is 197 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: a sleep related eating disorder. And so this is coming 198 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: I got. I got my info from an ABC News 199 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: article about it that found that more than a million 200 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: Americans suffer from this really strange affliction, and most of 201 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: them are women. I don't know what's up with that, 202 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: but basically, these people get up in the middle of 203 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: night do their sleepwalking thing, but instead of just you know, 204 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: wandering around like zombies, they go to the kitchen. They 205 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: either fix themselves food or they eat stuff out of 206 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: the fridge, or they make like a cat food sandwich 207 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: because they really don't know what they're doing and they 208 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: just eat and eat and eat and then just go 209 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: back to bed. Yeah, and for some people this obviously 210 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: can be a problem. There was one woman profiled who 211 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: had gained sixty pounds as a result of sleep eating. 212 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,599 Speaker 1: And while Dr Carlos Shank, the author of Sleep, The Mysteries, 213 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: the Problems, and the Solutions, said that sleep eating is 214 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: a result of a major quote physiological force coming from 215 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: deep within your brain and body to eat so inappropriately. 216 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: But it probably also has something to do with this 217 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: chemical lepton, because lepton is what is released in our 218 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: brains during sleep to suppress hunger, because that would be awful. 219 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: If we could get hungry while we were sleeping, I 220 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: would never sleep. Um. And so there there must be 221 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: something with part of the brain, possibly the gabble one 222 00:12:55,600 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 1: neurotransmitter that helps control the kind of sleep process in 223 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: the brain coming awake and kicking that leapton back in 224 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: without us knowing it. Yeah. So, and it's funny because 225 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: in the story they talked about how people tend to 226 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: go for like the cheesy poofs, you know, and not 227 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: instead of the apple because your whole you don't have 228 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: any It's not like you're judging. You're not making a 229 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: judgment call of like, you know what, I'm sleep eating, 230 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: I should probably have that banana. Yeah, your frontal cortex 231 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: that makes all of those like rational decisions between you know, 232 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: vegetables versus a milkshake. That's sleeping it's thinking about water guns. Um. 233 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: And this is part of the reason why there was 234 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: a rash of in the mid two thousands of ambient 235 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: it's a sleeping pill ambient related driving arrests because these 236 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: people were taking ambient and doing all sorts of crazy 237 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: things like driving. Eating was a big problem, having sex 238 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: and having no idea that they were doing all of this. 239 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: And as far as the eating goes, they thought the 240 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: there's a study done on it and they found that 241 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: an active ingredient and ambient tinkered with the lefton yeah, 242 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: which I immediately looked at my ambient bottle and was like, 243 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: O God, what have I done. Um, I really don't 244 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:16,599 Speaker 1: think I've done anything weird because I just don't that 245 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: I know of. You don't wake up with like pepperoni 246 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: stuck to your cheek, well, I mean like that's a 247 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: Saturday night, But yeah, it is scary what ambient can do. 248 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: I mean they talk about people, you know, getting in 249 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: their car and driving and running into other cars, hitting 250 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: telephone poles, things like that. And when the cops come that, 251 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: you know, they just assume you're you're drunk or you're 252 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: high on something, and so like, how do you how 253 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: do you test for ambient? I don't know. Maybe if 254 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: they start talking about ferrets are doing finger water guns, well, 255 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: you know what, I kind of made it poked a 256 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: little fun at the symptoms of sleepwalking. Maybe it's good 257 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: that those exist because maybe the you know, those are 258 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: the signs if someone the police should listen to our podcast. 259 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: Uh And since we've mentioned s a t words earlier 260 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: with somnambulism in paris, omnia's very briefly, people who have 261 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: sex in their sleep. They exhibit somnambulistic sexual behavior, otherwise 262 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: known as sexomnia. I just wanted to say all of 263 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: that out loud. Somnambulistic sexual behavior of sexomnia sounds like 264 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: a hex So how many of us, and by us, 265 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: I mean adults are doing this because a lot of 266 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: times kids will age out of sleepwalking, But how many 267 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: of us do this? Well, it's actually got a pretty 268 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: high lifetime rate people who have experienced it, but the 269 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: amount of adults who currently sleepwalk is pretty low. Um. 270 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: Going back to that Stanford study from spring of three 271 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: points six percent of US adults or eight point four 272 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: million people reported sleepwalking at least once in the previous year, 273 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: with one percent saying they had had two or more 274 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: episodes in one month. Yeah, the lifetime prevalence, like you said, 275 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: it's pretty high at twenty nine point two per cent. 276 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: And sleepwalking once like you did, out of the norm, Caroline, 277 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: because just over eighty percent of those who have sleepwalked 278 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: reported they've done so another time in the past five years. 279 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: And there are some conditions that are associated too with 280 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: sleepwalking behavior, not just the you know, the eating and 281 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: walking and talking, but things like sleep disordered breathing. Right, 282 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: This is a group of disorders characterized by, as you 283 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: would think, abnormal breathing patterns during sleep, most commonly obstructive 284 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: sleep apnea. And very interesting study that confirmed the importance 285 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: of correcting sleep problems in children. This is in pediatrics 286 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: in two thousand three. Children with chronic parasomnias may often 287 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: also present sleep disordered breathing or restless restless leg syndrome. 288 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: To a lesser extent, They found that frequent episodes of 289 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: sleepwalking could result from allergies, swollen tonsils, and other factors 290 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: that interfere with three eating. But once they had their 291 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: tonsils and or adnoids removed, fix the problem. Yeah, so 292 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: all their sleep disservances were gone. Yeah, so doctors should. 293 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: The researchers were hoping to like out of this pediatric 294 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: study that they could convince doctors to pay closer attention 295 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: to those kinds of breathing problems and kids. Um and 296 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: speaking of kids, migraines have been implicated. There were several 297 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: studies from the eighties showing that kids with migraines were 298 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: more likely to sleepwalk than were kids with other types 299 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: of headaches or even seizures. They also found that sleepwalking 300 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: was more common in kids who had migraines with aura 301 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: as opposed to migraines without OORA Like I get migraines 302 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: with aura, I get the whole, Like I get traveling numbness, 303 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: I get the lights and the party streamers in my vision, 304 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: I get numbness along my jaw. Whereas these kids who 305 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: don't have aura, would just be like hit with a migraine. 306 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: Another study found that a greater percentage of adults with 307 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: migraines were sleepwalkers compared to adults with just allergies. So 308 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: there's something going on in the brain. It's amazing though that, 309 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: like I because I currently have a cold or I 310 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: have you know, pretty much gotten over it. But so 311 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm having sleep issues right now and I'm a migraine suffer. 312 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: It's just weird that I don't sleepwalk. I feel like 313 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: I should. Maybe it's only a matter of time. Caroline 314 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: dum Dum dumb Well. Mental health issues too seem to 315 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: have one of the strongest relationships to sleep walking um 316 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: and with For people with depression, for instance, they are 317 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: three and a half times more likely to sleepwalk than 318 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: those without it, and people who are taking s sr 319 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: EYES for depression are three times more likely to sleepwalk 320 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: twice a month are or more. And it's not necessarily 321 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: the the s sr I antidepressants that are increasing the 322 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: risk of sleepwalking. They still think that it's something to 323 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: do with the depression, right, And there's also an interesting 324 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: link with obsessive compulsive disorder. They found that people with 325 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: O c D are seven times more likely to sleep walk, 326 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: So that's that's nuts. It's also more likely for those 327 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: with alcohol abuse or dependence, and uh, there could be 328 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: there could be a schizophrenia link. An article in the 329 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: British Journal of psycho Psychiatry in April found that schizophrenics 330 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: have sleep problems and that could have to do with 331 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: you know, all their sleep patterns are all messed up. 332 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: It's not like, you know, you want to go to 333 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 1: bed eleven o'clock, you sleep through the night, you have 334 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: your rem sleep, you get up at seven or whatever. Like. 335 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: They have a definite um kind of a mixed up 336 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: sleep patterns. So they also exhibit sleepwalking. And in the 337 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: ultimate twist of irony, people who take sleep medication are 338 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: two and a half times more likely to sleep walk 339 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: more than twice a month than people who don't take them. 340 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: So that kind of relates back to what we were 341 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: talking about with ambient. You take something to fall asleep. 342 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: At least you might get some exercise, or you might 343 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: eat a dozen donuts. Yeah, maybe you'll You'll walk to 344 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: the car to drive to Rispy Cream to eat the doughnuts, 345 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: drive back there you go, or you might drive to 346 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: Tim Horton's if you're one of our Canadian listeners, what 347 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: what Canada reference? Boom dropping truth bombs? So I think 348 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 1: that sums up our our sleepwalk. The thing is, we 349 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: still have an answered why it happens. We know that 350 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: it has something to do with this chromosome twenty, something 351 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: to do with passing it being passed along through our 352 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: family lines, and something to do with being a kid, 353 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: and maybe something to do with if you're an adult 354 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: who sleep box. Could be a mental health depression, sleep medication, alcohol, Okay, 355 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: a lot of things. It could be anything, is what 356 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: we're saying. Um But if you do want to see 357 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: um a a funny depiction of sleepwalking like real something 358 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: that happened in real life. I do recommend go see 359 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: a sleepwalk with me. I enjoyed it. It was fun. 360 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: And there's an Ira Glass cameo for this American Life 361 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: fans out there, so well, I really want to hear 362 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: stories of people sleepwalking. Weird places are doing weird things. 363 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: Tell us what you ate. I'm very curious. Well see 364 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: also the disappointing thing if I started sleep eating, I 365 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: would be mad, not so much because of the caloric intake, 366 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: but because I wouldn't have been awake enough to enjoy 367 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: to enjoy all the cupcakes or pizza or something, and 368 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: also thinking about like what's in my cupboard though it 369 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: wouldn't be that exciting. I'd probably end up eating dry rice. Actually, 370 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: I was just thinking dried lentils, all right. So that's 371 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: been as you're sleepwalking stories Mom stuff at Discovery dot com, 372 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: and speaking of movies, as we have a couple of 373 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: times in this episode, before we get into listener mail, 374 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: we've got a quick word from one of our kindly sponsors, Netflix, 375 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: which helped bring you today's episode of Stuff Mom Never 376 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: told you. Today we were talking about sleep walking. So 377 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: if you want to watch something kind of related to that, 378 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: I've got an idea here. 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None seemed to last much past a year, 399 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,239 Speaker 1: if we even made it that far. Now, these were 400 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: all relationships I created myself, meaning no on the set 401 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: us up or conspired to get us together. However, once 402 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: I started going to a weekly stitching group, a lovely 403 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: lady there offered to set me up with a guy 404 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: she worked with. Naturally, I was skeptical, being the youngest 405 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: in the group and she had always talked about how 406 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: she worked with older people at her architecture firm. But 407 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: I was feeling brave and agreed. Luckily he turned out 408 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: to be just thirty at the time, and absolutely amazing. 409 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: We're still dating. It's been almost a year, and I've 410 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: never been happier or felt more content in a romantic 411 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: relation and ship. We have a lot of fun together 412 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: and I can really see spending years and years with 413 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: him and never being bored and discontent at least for long. 414 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: Funnily enough, we both have similar family backgrounds, education levels, 415 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: and personal ideals and morals. It's amazing how much things 416 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: as dull as this really do help, like you two 417 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: pointed out on the podcast, So I guess my story 418 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: at least would imply that you're common about sometimes not 419 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: knowing what we need is true. So thanks and good 420 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: luck with that relationship, Melissa. Okay, here's one from Rose 421 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: about our slumber party podcast, and I'm really glad she 422 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: sent this in because you know, we touched on like 423 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: cultural differences as far as attitudes towards slumber parties, and 424 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: she has a good story. So she says, uh, my 425 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: dad is originally from South America and was completely perplexed 426 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: when I started wanting to go to slumber parties around 427 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: age seven, I remember him saying things like, why would 428 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: you need to sleep at someone else's house? Is our 429 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,959 Speaker 1: own house not good enough for you? My mom had 430 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: to explain to him this was a normal part of 431 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: a young girls social life in the US, and made 432 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: sure that I was able to both host and attend sleepovers. 433 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm so glad I was able to have these events 434 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: as part of my childhood. Going to other people's houses, 435 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: eating their food, living by their rules for a night 436 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: was all interesting and fun. It was also a good 437 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: test of my manners and confidence comporting myself well in 438 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: someone else's home, and sure I got into some things 439 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: I never would have at home. I only ever saw 440 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: horror movies at Slummer parties, for example, who shows a 441 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: room full of nine year olds The Exorcist at bedtime? 442 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: But comparing my experiences and other homes to my own home, 443 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: I actually better understood the values my parents wanted me 444 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: to have and why our home ran the way it did. 445 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: So Thanks for the perspective, Rose, and thanks to everyone 446 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: who's written into Mom's Stuff at Discovery dot com or 447 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: follow us on Twitter at mom Stuff podcast, or liked 448 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: us on Facebook. And you can also follow us now 449 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: on tumbler stuff Mom never told you. 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