WEBVTT - A BIG Car-MESS-A! | RHOC Recap with Alexis Janssen 

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<v Speaker 1>Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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<v Speaker 1>addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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<v Speaker 1>scripted as well. Hey, rain drops on today's episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Reality with the King Alexis Jansen. I are back to recap, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the latest episode of Orange County, but we're also here

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<v Speaker 1>to recap Alexis Facelif, the.

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<v Speaker 2>New Alexis that's been back podcasting with you for three

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<v Speaker 2>weeks now or four?

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<v Speaker 3>Wait?

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<v Speaker 2>Was this week five that we never talked about because

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<v Speaker 2>it was a secret, But now it's out.

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<v Speaker 3>I was weaking good.

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<v Speaker 2>Before and afters, and then I wanted, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to make sure that it was like it was healed,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't want to talk.

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<v Speaker 3>About it until I was proud and felt comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look, this is the secret you've been teasing for

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<v Speaker 1>the past five weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>It finally is being revealed. And look, it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>So talk to me about this, because you've already a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful woman. What made you want to get a face

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<v Speaker 1>lift in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was it was really a lot about my

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<v Speaker 2>neck and photos. And I know we're our worst critics, right, Carlos.

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<v Speaker 2>You will pick something apart about yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>That no one else notices.

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<v Speaker 2>I was really getting frustrated in all my photos and

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<v Speaker 2>it was like, no matter how much I stuck my

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<v Speaker 2>neck out or what I did, and then my face

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<v Speaker 2>looked funny and I'm just like, oh my gosh, let's

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<v Speaker 2>just chop it off. So and that happens with older age, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And I know it's not like I'm obese or like

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<v Speaker 2>I need to just lose weight there. It's that it

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<v Speaker 2>was just skinned. So that's what started it. But you

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<v Speaker 2>can't do it. You can't do just an You have

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<v Speaker 2>to The doctor explained this when I went to like

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<v Speaker 2>four consultations because John was and my kids were so

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<v Speaker 2>against it. He had to consult with me like four times.

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<v Speaker 2>Poor guy sure earned his money on that one, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm like back the door stuff every day. So anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>he's explained it like you have to pull everything a little.

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<v Speaker 2>So he only did three millimeters on me, which is

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<v Speaker 2>super tiny, and it was just.

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<v Speaker 3>Enough to make me look like I got a good

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<v Speaker 3>night's sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the funny part is everyone's commenting on my

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<v Speaker 2>instagrams and stuff and they're like, well, you wasted your

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<v Speaker 2>time and I can't even tell the difference. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, that's exactly what you want. Like it just

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<v Speaker 2>makes me look like I got good sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's all I was after.

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<v Speaker 2>And and my neck is gone and you didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>notice my neck so perfect.

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<v Speaker 4>See, so that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been doing this for like two years and I

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<v Speaker 1>but you're right, I never noticed anything wrong with your neck.

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<v Speaker 1>And your face already gorgeous. So when I saw it

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<v Speaker 1>before and after, I was like everyone else, like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>the good thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen was a great thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like a Chris Jenni face lip where it

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<v Speaker 1>was such a visible difference.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's that's the goal. That's what doctors.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're starting at forty nine or fifty, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>goal is if you wait till you're sixty, it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be such a huge difference that it is like

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<v Speaker 2>when you walk in a restaurant, like the what the

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<v Speaker 2>hell did you just do? When I walked in the restaurant.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's like, no one really notices. They thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was my hair like your hair, or you got a

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<v Speaker 2>new tan, or you've been vacationing so you look good.

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<v Speaker 2>They couldn't put their finger on it. And so now

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<v Speaker 2>when I get it done at sixty five or sixty

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<v Speaker 2>then it's going to be just another little nip and

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<v Speaker 2>then you don't have the huge one. So yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think Chris Jenner looks amazing, but was fantastic?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>Just yeah, she just did have a very It was

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<v Speaker 2>it was like, oh my gosh, difference. But when you

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<v Speaker 2>looked at my before and after pictures, be honest with me,

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<v Speaker 2>because you always are.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, You're not my feelings.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you tell in the before and afters a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit like it just looked brighter or refreshed or did

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<v Speaker 2>you not?

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<v Speaker 1>It was? The thing is it was small. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a small difference. And what's funny is, I'll speak for myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I have mentioned that. Look, I can tell on oc

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<v Speaker 1>who's had a little work done because it's visible, right

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of you could tell off season some work

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<v Speaker 1>was done and it's not jarring, but it's obvious. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I you is obvious. So with yours it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't obvious. Like the thing is, if you would have

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<v Speaker 1>never said anything to me, I would have said to

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<v Speaker 1>myself and this is me being honest.

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<v Speaker 4>Alexis got a good makeup artist.

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<v Speaker 1>I love.

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<v Speaker 3>That's perfect.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Like she has a good makeup artist and good.

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<v Speaker 3>New York lamb's good. I got all oc glam. Who

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<v Speaker 3>squad's good? I got all kinds of good glam squads.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you look absolutely studying. So who was the person

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<v Speaker 1>that did this amazing work on you?

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<v Speaker 2>It's doctor Laky and Beverly Hills, and he's he's worked

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<v Speaker 2>on quite a few other reality people, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at a lot of his before and afters

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<v Speaker 2>and he he just made me feel so comfortable because

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<v Speaker 2>I was nervous. And then he had to meet with

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<v Speaker 2>John and John was grilling him and and and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and then my kids. So I sent my kids my

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<v Speaker 2>before and afters and I said, see, guys, now, aren't

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<v Speaker 2>you glad?

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<v Speaker 3>Mom did that? And they were like, Mom, which one's

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<v Speaker 3>the before and which one's the after?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, the befores are all on top and

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<v Speaker 2>they're like then they're like, oh, okay, we're happy now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we like it. We look good, we love it.

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<v Speaker 2>So shout out to doctor Lakey for not ticking off

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<v Speaker 2>my kids and my husband.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're all still friends. Thank God, you look good.

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<v Speaker 4>You look good.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's funny is sometime you hear horror stories like

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<v Speaker 1>I heard the other day, which is Amanda Francis is

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<v Speaker 1>not returning to the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

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<v Speaker 3>What the heck?

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<v Speaker 2>I almost called you because I and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think I just got busy or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I almost called because I was you and.

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<v Speaker 2>I are such lovers of her, like we love her

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm just sad, and I thought it was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>because she decided not to because she had a tough season.

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<v Speaker 3>It's because she wasn't asked back as what I got

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<v Speaker 3>from that article.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>So TIMS, which I would listen, I would go on

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<v Speaker 1>record saying that TMZ is ninety nine point nine to

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<v Speaker 1>nine percent accurate, like they they do not report on

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<v Speaker 1>anything that isn't fully outsourced, and they have an amazing reputation.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a great that's a great ninety is a

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<v Speaker 2>great rate, like it's a great for what you're discussing

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<v Speaker 2>and bringing the real news.

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<v Speaker 4>So go ahead, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So tmzy reported that Amanda Francis was not asked back

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<v Speaker 1>by production for the show. Amanda Francis on Instagram did

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<v Speaker 1>a LinkedIn post and she mentioned, which listen, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to give credit where credit is due. So Alexis, let

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<v Speaker 1>me read to you exactly what she said, so that

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<v Speaker 1>there isn't, you know, mince words in terms of what

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<v Speaker 1>she said on her Instagram. So Amanda Francis the same

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<v Speaker 1>day TMZ revealed it, and we really do honestly, Alexis,

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<v Speaker 1>because we've been in this business for.

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<v Speaker 4>A long time.

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<v Speaker 1>TMZ scooped it first hours, maybe an hour later or two.

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<v Speaker 1>Amanda France has then posted on her Instagram and this

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<v Speaker 1>is what she had to say. I'm not gonna read everything,

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<v Speaker 1>but the part that I think you and I should

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<v Speaker 1>discuss is she mentioned while this show gave me an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible platform, a platform is not the same thing as

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<v Speaker 1>a foundation.

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<v Speaker 4>Beverly Hills, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I am taking the clarity, the lessons, the plot twist,

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<v Speaker 1>the spiritual warfare, and the occasional deeply unnecessary dinner party

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<v Speaker 1>drama into all that God has for me. Now and

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<v Speaker 1>to anyone watching, please know your next move does not

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<v Speaker 1>require anyone's approval, and you can be grateful for an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity and know when it's time to leave. Uh huh okay,

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<v Speaker 1>making it seem like it was her decision, which I listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say.

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<v Speaker 4>This, I haven't. I haven't contacted my sources to get

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<v Speaker 4>the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, honey, if you if you DMed her or texted her,

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<v Speaker 2>she'd tell you because like you had her on your podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>like you guys have a broad ship now.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I want to be honest, and you know

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<v Speaker 4>this to be true.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a few OC women who were not asked back

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<v Speaker 1>and they made it seem like they left on their own.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in all fairness, I think that that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that like for me, I admit when I quit

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<v Speaker 3>and I met when I got fired.

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<v Speaker 2>So CA I'm looking, Hey, yeah, I got Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>are honest, and it's like nope, but I got canned.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, who knows if we're gonna get us back

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<v Speaker 2>ever again. You never know, but like and you never

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<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna take it, they offer back again. But

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<v Speaker 2>so I think that it could go either way. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to get to the bottom of it. Maybe all

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<v Speaker 2>DM or Carlos.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing is this because she's listen.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing BRABO does do they I'll give them credit

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<v Speaker 1>for as well when it comes to the way they

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<v Speaker 1>treat their housewives, who they let go. They allow them

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<v Speaker 1>to say whatever narrative they want to say, are so white,

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<v Speaker 1>and they.

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<v Speaker 2>Just they just stay they stip rise above and they

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<v Speaker 2>stay quiet, and they're just like whatever. They don't ever

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<v Speaker 2>go back in the media and say, actually, we fired her,

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<v Speaker 2>we canned her, we gave her a break, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think Andy Cohen has been honest about

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<v Speaker 2>things like that on watch What Happens Live about like

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<v Speaker 2>giving Vicky a break, you know, like she took a

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<v Speaker 2>pause or whatever. I think he's honest about that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing. But in the press, they don't go back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth with the housewife.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, No, once the housewives says they're fired, Andy

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<v Speaker 1>Ben talks about like like like what Tamra said he did,

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<v Speaker 1>It'll feel real good when they ask you back like

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<v Speaker 1>that was his response to her publicly. So the thing is, huh,

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<v Speaker 1>did Amanda Francis not get asked back?

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<v Speaker 4>I will say this, and I'm being very honest.

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<v Speaker 1>She won a lot of people over in the end,

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<v Speaker 1>and I found her to.

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<v Speaker 4>Be extremely interesting and you know that, and so did you.

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<v Speaker 1>It was eight women and unless they found someone that,

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<v Speaker 1>unless they found a person or two that is undeniable.

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<v Speaker 1>That to me is the only reason, the only reason

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<v Speaker 1>why they will look at their roster and say we

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<v Speaker 1>have to get rid of her to make room for

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<v Speaker 1>someone else.

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<v Speaker 4>Who they may think is the right choice.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought something different, or you might be right though,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, but I was thinking because she didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really create a best friendship or a good friendship with

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<v Speaker 2>sincere friendship with any of the women, I thought maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they were like she rubbed a couple of the women

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong way, super bad and like you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it. I think Amanda had such good singers and

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<v Speaker 2>comebacks when she was put on the spot that I

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<v Speaker 2>think she was amazing and ha held her own. But

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if maybe if that was part of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were just like you know, the other women

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<v Speaker 2>are not that they ice you out, because you can't

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<v Speaker 2>really ice someone out on the show. But maybe production

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<v Speaker 2>was just like, you know, she doesn't really get along

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<v Speaker 2>with everybody. But it could be what you're saying, and

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<v Speaker 2>it could be that she quit. It could be the

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<v Speaker 2>production heard she wasn't into it and it wasn't happy

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<v Speaker 2>with a lot of the drama, and and so maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it was more of a mutual thing, like the show

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<v Speaker 2>knew she wasn't get really into it, she was probably

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<v Speaker 2>gonna quit, and they just both severed, you know, parted ways.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So this is my other theory. If she did quit,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons why she would would be would

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<v Speaker 1>be if she wanted more money. I just I.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't see her leaving because the show was too dramatic.

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<v Speaker 4>I I follow.

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<v Speaker 1>Her and when Rihanna Rihanna DMed her and said don't

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<v Speaker 1>you leave because she was being very coy with it,

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<v Speaker 1>which which.

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<v Speaker 4>Is a housewife play. Are you coming back?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe Rihanna DMed her. Amanda posted it

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<v Speaker 1>I would too, and she here she goes, election she goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if Rihanna wants me to stay, maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>should really stay. And I was like Amanda, Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe she wanted more money.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think? She's a money queen after.

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<v Speaker 2>All, I know, And I think that could very will

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<v Speaker 2>be true, because I mean, you know, it's a known

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<v Speaker 2>fact they don't pay the first year girls anything. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you are making, you are making chump change to be

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<v Speaker 2>a first season housewife.

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<v Speaker 3>It it wasn't always that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we all started, you know, a decade and

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<v Speaker 2>a half ago, or fifteen years ago I got, which is.

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<v Speaker 3>A decad and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>They paid a little bit different. So so I almost

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<v Speaker 2>wonder if maybe you're right. And she was like, for

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<v Speaker 2>everything I just endured and went through and this drama

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<v Speaker 2>that I had no idea about. I did the first

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<v Speaker 2>year for free, basically, and if you don't give me

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<v Speaker 2>what I think I'm worth, and maybe she could, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's super time consuming, it's super unexpected, the things

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<v Speaker 2>that happen at dinners and things like that, and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of times uncalled for.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Amanda said, so I don't know you're right. I

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<v Speaker 3>think you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>So the rumor is this, I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>know this person, but I'm a huge fan. The show's

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<v Speaker 1>along on me here, But I was a huge fan

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<v Speaker 1>of million dollars listing La. Yeah, Tracy Tudor is rumored

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<v Speaker 1>to be a Beverly Hill's contender.

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<v Speaker 4>As a housewife.

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<v Speaker 1>Who I will say this if it's not true, Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Baskin Bravamp on that phone, I Carlos King the first.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to see Tracy Tudor as a housewife.

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<v Speaker 1>I she Tracy is beyond gorge. She is spicy, she's

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<v Speaker 1>a great mom. She's a stute businesswoman, she is wealthy.

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<v Speaker 1>She had well she had I think they broke up.

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<v Speaker 1>She had a hot young trainer as a boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, Tracy is that girl.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm telling you I want to see Tracy Tudor

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<v Speaker 1>as a Beverly Hills housewife.

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<v Speaker 4>Make that shit happens. Am I wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>She just had a facelift too.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, she was one of my inspos, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because Tarry was one of the first inspos, because she

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<v Speaker 2>got hers at forty, not her first one fifty, and

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<v Speaker 2>then my other best friend got her, and then Tracy

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<v Speaker 2>Tudor got hers. I'm like, girl, I am I am

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<v Speaker 2>on board now because I looked at your before and afters.

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<v Speaker 3>And I am on board.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, hoddy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So okay, if you had your brother a new

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<v Speaker 2>season with Tracy Tutor or or keep Amanda, what would

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<v Speaker 2>you say.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, alexaid, you are so shady, let me plug in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. I am.

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<v Speaker 3>I am shady as I drink my Lani Hani shady.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well think about it, because that's a hard call.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a hard call.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what if you could get rid of one housewife

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<v Speaker 2>and add Tracy and keep Amanda?

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<v Speaker 4>If I had okay, well I went Jennifer.

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<v Speaker 3>Tillia is a full time.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're talking about Beverly Hills and we're supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be okapping recop.

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<v Speaker 4>We will we will, we will, we will, we will

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<v Speaker 4>will we.

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<v Speaker 3>Will Otillia is a full time.

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<v Speaker 1>I will lose Ston to keep Amanda and add Tracy Tudor.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not agree. I love me some Sutton. I

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<v Speaker 2>love she brings a totally different I love me some Sutton.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I would you too, I answer your question, what would

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<v Speaker 4>you tooth?

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<v Speaker 2>Honey?

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<v Speaker 3>I was just gonna go there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I would keep Amanda if I had the

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<v Speaker 2>But if Amanda quits or gets fired, I would then

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<v Speaker 2>say Tracy's great if we can't make or bring her

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<v Speaker 2>on as a friend of and put Jennifer in full cast.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, okay, okay, So rain drops Alexis and I

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<v Speaker 1>know what you guys think, but I will say this, Amanda,

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<v Speaker 1>you were amazing on the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Is rare.

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<v Speaker 1>You.

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<v Speaker 4>We love you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's rare to see a housewife have it hard in

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning and then to win the fans over towards

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<v Speaker 1>the end. Even h Anna loved you. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>tough gig. We'll see what happens, but I will. I

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<v Speaker 1>will support Amanda and her new book, just like I

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<v Speaker 1>will support Carmela as my developer real estate agent and

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<v Speaker 1>broke her.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's such a word of some semantics.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think that if say, she's a developer and

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<v Speaker 2>VICKI doesn't like that word, it's like, who cares?

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<v Speaker 3>She's a boss lady.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, like both both Vicky and her

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<v Speaker 2>are boss women. So it's okay if Vicky wants to

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<v Speaker 2>call herself a you know, queen of realists or Queen

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<v Speaker 2>of insurance or whatever the title.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It's like I don't care.

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<v Speaker 4>No, So let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>So the episode kicks off when you get to get

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<v Speaker 1>both perspectives, and I love with scenes do this. I

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<v Speaker 1>love when scenes are there's two separate scenes and they're

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<v Speaker 1>all like integrated into one to where they live back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth and seeing it. So I really did enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>seeing Carmela Emily.

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<v Speaker 4>With plus Gen and Vickie and just.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting sort of that world collided. Of course, listen, they're

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<v Speaker 1>still talking about the fact that Carmela bought Emily ad

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<v Speaker 1>or bag and a dial do and Janice with Vicky,

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<v Speaker 1>and Vicky is not feeling Carmela at all. Carmela learns

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<v Speaker 1>from Why and Carmela thinks that Vicky is stuck in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen fifties mindset and doesn't understand why she has

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<v Speaker 1>such a.

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<v Speaker 4>Heart on for her. Why do you think this is

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<v Speaker 4>the case.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it just simply simply that Vicky is hazing the

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<v Speaker 1>new Girl, like is it just that? Or do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that Vicky is onto something questioning the validity of

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<v Speaker 1>Carmela's career.

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent. I think it's the second.

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<v Speaker 2>I think because Vicky Vicky is known, both are kind

0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:35.280
<v Speaker 2>of true. Though Vicky is known for having the heart

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<v Speaker 2>on for the first the New girl. I mean, she

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<v Speaker 2>had it hard for me for a whole year once

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<v Speaker 2>I got Hazed into the group. Then, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>then she was starting to lose her marriage with Dawn,

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<v Speaker 2>and her and I had that deep talk about like

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, don't whatever it is, Alexis, don't let the

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<v Speaker 2>show get in the way of her marriage. Don't get

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<v Speaker 2>and Jim and I were fine at that point. We

0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:55.080
<v Speaker 2>weren't having issues at that point, and so she's just like,

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<v Speaker 2>put your marriage first, you know, stay married to your

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<v Speaker 2>husband and your kids have their dad. Because we all

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<v Speaker 2>know Vicky's still has a hard time and feels guilty about,

0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:07.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, family. I think that she does do that

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<v Speaker 2>to the newbies, but I truly think Vicky has a

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<v Speaker 2>gut feeling or doesn't like just doesn't like Carmela. I

0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:18.639
<v Speaker 2>truly think that because I know Vicky and she usually

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<v Speaker 2>she'll come around by the end or soften up a

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<v Speaker 2>little or or whatever.

0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:24.720
<v Speaker 3>So we'll have to see how it the episodes play out.

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<v Speaker 2>But what was I just listening to, Oh oh oh

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<v Speaker 2>h what this is why I have a little bit

0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.600
<v Speaker 2>of intel watch what Happens Live. Gina was on last

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<v Speaker 2>night after and something was said about one of the

0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:37.200
<v Speaker 2>one of the people in the audience or whatever said

0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:41.840
<v Speaker 2>something about Carmela and Vicky's disagreement and Gina goes.

0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.000
<v Speaker 3>And it gets worse. Oh no, it was the person.

0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:45.920
<v Speaker 2>With Gina said, you know, I have it, I feel

0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.480
<v Speaker 2>bad for Carmela, and Gino goes, oh, and it gets worse.

0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:51.600
<v Speaker 2>So I don't think that Vicky is gonna lighten up

0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:53.399
<v Speaker 2>on this and does not. I think she does not

0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:55.200
<v Speaker 2>like Carmela. Wait for the reunion.

0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:59.679
<v Speaker 1>I bet this is reality with the King, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Karl was king.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's get back into the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen she is Listen, Vicky is saying things about Carmela

0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:18.439
<v Speaker 1>that is a little bit unfortunate for Carmela's reputation in

0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:22.240
<v Speaker 1>her business. And not to skip towards the end, but

0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:24.800
<v Speaker 1>I do want to bring this up. Listen, love Vicky,

0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Vicki's great. I will say, I am on Carmela's side

0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:33.000
<v Speaker 1>when she's like, I thought you were a woman who

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<v Speaker 1>supports women, and I think, listen, Bickie to me was

0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:41.080
<v Speaker 1>somebody who appreciated of working woman. A hard working woman, right,

0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:43.440
<v Speaker 1>a woman who isn't relying on a man.

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<v Speaker 4>Those are what she.

0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Has said publicly on the show and interviews, which is

0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:52.920
<v Speaker 1>why it's hard for me to stomach why she's given

0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Carmela hard time because she listen, everything's google ball, So

0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:02.080
<v Speaker 1>if you really did think she would a fraud, all

0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:05.720
<v Speaker 1>you have to do is google her on MLS, see

0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:09.520
<v Speaker 1>what seeing what she has done. And I think Carmela,

0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:12.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Carmela got these girls shaken up and

0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:17.240
<v Speaker 1>I you know, these women, what is it about Carmela

0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:19.760
<v Speaker 1>that has And we'll get to this later with Gina,

0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:25.240
<v Speaker 1>she's these women are like giving her a hard time.

0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Is it just is it just hazy or is it

0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:29.960
<v Speaker 1>deeper than that? I can't I can't put my finger

0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:30.320
<v Speaker 1>on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's there's a true initiation process with it.

0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:37.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm no matter what housewife franchise you're on, I think

0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:38.719
<v Speaker 2>there's an initiate, an initiation process.

0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:39.760
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like a sorority.

0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:43.320
<v Speaker 2>But but what I will say for Carmela is I

0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:46.760
<v Speaker 2>think it's because she's coming in so hot, like Okay,

0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:49.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna bring a dildo. I'm just gonna

0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:51.280
<v Speaker 2>be bold and buy a do Or clutch that was

0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:53.280
<v Speaker 2>twenty seven hundred dollars and put a dildo in it.

0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:56.160
<v Speaker 2>I think that it's because she's she's not just kind

0:21:56.160 --> 0:22:00.200
<v Speaker 2>of like slowly integrating herself. She's like, Bam, I'm here

0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:03.200
<v Speaker 2>and I'm bringing a dildo and I'm gonna make everybody laugh.

0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:05.160
<v Speaker 3>And I also, you know, she just has a.

0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:08.199
<v Speaker 2>Very and I'm still married to my ex my husband

0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:10.600
<v Speaker 2>that I'm not getting a divorce front, but we're done.

0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:12.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's just a lot of things about her

0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:15.479
<v Speaker 2>that are so kind of in your face bam, that

0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:19.399
<v Speaker 2>the women are like, okay, what and like when Vicky said, like,

0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Vicky's questioning so much about that she made the one

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<v Speaker 2>point four million on her first house?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you believe that?

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<v Speaker 2>Or is like so, I wonder if some of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that Carmela is saying are just so bold that

0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:32.720
<v Speaker 2>it makes the women. And maybe it's because there's no

0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:35.000
<v Speaker 2>freaking storyline for anyone and it's a boring season and

0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:36.440
<v Speaker 2>they're just trying to create some shit.

0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:42.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, look at how boring the episodes are right now. Sorry, guys,

0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:46.280
<v Speaker 3>it's not their fault. It's just for some reason, I

0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:47.520
<v Speaker 3>don't know, there's no real drama.

0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:52.359
<v Speaker 2>We're still talking about dildos and white boxes with words

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<v Speaker 2>put in them.

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<v Speaker 4>Alexis.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only do you have a facelift, my love, you

0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:07.080
<v Speaker 1>also have a shade left because when I say to

0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:15.160
<v Speaker 1>you that was listen, that was supreme shade. Because supreme

0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:18.560
<v Speaker 1>shade is what it's unexpected. I had no idea it

0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:22.359
<v Speaker 1>was gonna go there. And that's how alexis shit.

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<v Speaker 4>Next time war me.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Carlos, we don't operate like that. We made the

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<v Speaker 2>pack to never call our text before any of these podcasts. Yes,

0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:34.280
<v Speaker 2>and if we are authentic and we don't let you

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<v Speaker 2>know where we're going at any given time.

0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:37.280
<v Speaker 4>You don't know.

0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:39.160
<v Speaker 3>Where this bus is taking you. We could go right,

0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:41.439
<v Speaker 3>or we could do two or left. Okay, you just

0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:41.919
<v Speaker 3>don't know.

0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:43.199
<v Speaker 4>But the one thing you know is.

0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:44.879
<v Speaker 3>It's honesty coming out of both of us. There is

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<v Speaker 3>no There is.

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<v Speaker 1>No plan, all right, because you don't have tough of

0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:58.240
<v Speaker 1>thoughts of what you just said. I'll stay it towards

0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 1>the end, okay, So remind me of lex Is because.

0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:03.239
<v Speaker 3>I, oh, honey, I'm not gonna let it go.

0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:07.920
<v Speaker 4>So s borla alert, I can cur okay. So the

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<v Speaker 4>thing is, Gin is.

0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Being asked by Carmela to help her.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't get it out because it's so funny to me.

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 4>So Carmela's like, hey, Jen, I know you need money, you.

0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:33.040
<v Speaker 5>Need to do something, so abou you're gonna come clean

0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:35.320
<v Speaker 5>my toilet, Come clean my toilets and my and then

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:37.240
<v Speaker 5>you can dust my window sills and then I'll give

0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:38.200
<v Speaker 5>you twenty grand.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you like?

0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:39.199
<v Speaker 3>Would you like that?

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 2>And we can even do it under the table gins

0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:47.560
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to claim taxes on it, can do.

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 3>The to come look at tiles and.

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 2>And how does she even know what if Jin can't

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:54.000
<v Speaker 2>pick a tile for the to save the life of her.

0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 3>And she chooses like a stone that doesn't even.

0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:58.800
<v Speaker 4>Go with the room. I mean, I don't.

0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:02.359
<v Speaker 2>Hey, it was in my in my mind when I

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:04.679
<v Speaker 2>first was watching it, I thought that is so sweet.

0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 2>Though I don't care that is such a sweet gesture.

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 2>It just it just makes me feel like though, like

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what do I.

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:13.200
<v Speaker 3>Ever own the house that Jin could do handyman work?

0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:17.600
<v Speaker 4>Can you do that? It's like does it work for

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:19.119
<v Speaker 4>task rabbit? Like whatever?

0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Listen, if you want to give anybody twenty thousand dollars,

0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Me and Alexis was split it and make sure that

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:31.120
<v Speaker 1>these recaps are in your favor.

0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:34.360
<v Speaker 3>Carlos, we take ten five each due, we'll go down.

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:40.119
<v Speaker 2>We'll give you a discount, your fifty person off today.

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 4>We're cheap. Listen.

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:44.720
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't it's just a good deal. We're a good deal.

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 4>That's great over here.

0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Talk about a bargain like you don't have to spend

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:50.879
<v Speaker 1>twenty to listen.

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:51.720
<v Speaker 4>I loved it.

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Just a great a great woman to listen. It's one

0:25:56.400 --> 0:25:59.640
<v Speaker 1>thing to sort of be like, hey, my be my intern,

0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 1>be my shadow, watch me do this job, see this

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 1>something you're interested in, but to have Emily ask her like, so,

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:12.680
<v Speaker 1>how much you're gonna pay her?

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<v Speaker 4>I do think Carmela just made up the number.

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I really think she had no idea what even the

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 1>thought process of that was. I do think she threw

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:26.159
<v Speaker 1>out twenty thousand dollars. But I also love.

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:29.639
<v Speaker 4>That Vicky said, I bet you that Ryan.

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Is going to take advantage of this opportunity and find

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:36.160
<v Speaker 1>some way to insert his ass in there.

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I think I don't agree with you on that she

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:42.120
<v Speaker 2>just pulled that number out of there.

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:42.879
<v Speaker 3>I think she knows what.

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 2>She probably pays someone else to be her assistant on

0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:47.200
<v Speaker 2>a project, and so probably it was just like I'll

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 2>just Paygen to be my assistant in this project, and

0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:51.920
<v Speaker 2>it's probably twenty grand, So I don't know. I think

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 2>that I think she probably had a I mean, if

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:55.879
<v Speaker 2>you know your finances, if you run a business, you

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:57.880
<v Speaker 2>know how much you pay X, Y and Z. Don't

0:26:57.920 --> 0:26:59.959
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't just slip your mind. Like I know how

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 2>much I paid my kid yesterday, and if it was

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:03.920
<v Speaker 2>twelve dollars, I'm like, you owed me that twelve dollars

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 2>back because that was for Starbucks and I'm not paying

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 2>for all your Starbucks.

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:10.880
<v Speaker 3>Is you know, like I know every dollar. I think

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 3>she probably did. I think she probably didn't know the number.

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:17.919
<v Speaker 2>But I thought I took that scene with Ryan, I

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:20.359
<v Speaker 2>thought that she said that Vicky goes.

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:23.360
<v Speaker 3>Maybe I heard it wrong. I thought, Vicky.

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Goes, you know, she's probably going to ask Rian to

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 2>be the next person to flip his house, like you know,

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 2>I thought, oh, yes, I took it the other way,

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Yes I am going to insert himself.

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 3>But that Vicky was saying, she's probably Carmela.

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't trust her so much that I think she's

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:41.399
<v Speaker 2>probably going to go to Ryan and ask that to

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 2>flip their house.

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 3>And that's where Jen's going to be inserted, you know,

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:44.639
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, no, no, no.

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I think you're right. I think you're right too. So

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 1>the thing is, we'll see what happens with that. I

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 1>do like that she's throwing Jenna bone because listen, Jen

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 1>has been very honest about you know, listen, she broughted

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>money from her parents two seasons ago, so she's been

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 1>very honest about her financial status. So the fact that

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Carmela's trying to help her, I do like that. I

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 1>also like the fact that Carmela is telling everybody about

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:17.439
<v Speaker 1>her past because I think she's playing the game of

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:21.119
<v Speaker 1>let me tell you my tea before you investigate me

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 1>and try to throw it against me. So to know

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>that she violated a restraining order because she had an

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 1>altercation with the woman that had some sort of dealings

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:36.680
<v Speaker 1>with her husband that she's estranged from, and they were

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 1>in the strip club in Ohio, dancing on a pole

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 1>and she tried to like give her these loves and

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 1>the friend through a drink on her great casting. This

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>is the type of woman I want to see on

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 1>the show.

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, well, the thing is is like that's another

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 2>thing that I think these women are just like, you know,

0:28:57.840 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 2>like I said, she's coming in with beam because not

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 2>many of the housewives have restraining orders or have been

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 2>arrested or assaulted for that matter, you know. So I

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 2>mean all at once, I just think that it's it's

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like making the women question like everything.

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 2>But for me, I love that she was open about it, Carmela,

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 2>and that she just divulged everything. And it's just like

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 2>you can try to you know, find it and scoop

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 2>it up on me and then try to play it

0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 2>against me or like tmz me with it.

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 3>But whatever, I'm just gonna let you know what happened.

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 3>This is what happened, and I loved it.

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I listen, I really do like her a great deal,

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 1>and I like the fact that she's open and honest

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>about her past what she's going through, and listen, I

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 1>found her to be super interesting.

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 4>So Vicky, Shannon, Jean, and Heather.

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:52.320
<v Speaker 1>They went out to you know, have drinks and Shannon

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>talks about the state of her and Tamra's friendship and

0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:03.160
<v Speaker 1>said that they were exchanging friendly texting and how she

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>really wants it to you know, to stay that way.

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 1>But obviously she's still cautious. I gotta be honest with you.

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:15.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't give two shits about this storyline. I just

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 1>don't care. I'm not investing in treating megas goodbye. I

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 1>don't care.

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 4>I do not spoiler alert.

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 1>In real life, Shannon and Tamera will never be friends ever.

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Everybody knows that.

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Well.

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 4>I feel like they're trying to make it seem like

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 4>there's hope.

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, of course they are. It's the TV show, Carlos,

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 2>That's what they're supposed to be doing. But it's all

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 2>about conflict resolution.

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 3>But so I think.

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 2>That, Okay, see and I have as a viewer, I

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 2>have a different look on it.

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 3>I am liking it.

0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 2>I am liking that, Okay, we can finally move on

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 2>because I'm telling you, the stick of it keep going

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 2>on and on for two and a half four years.

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 3>Whatever they held timers in the back is really old.

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 3>That if Tamer walks in the room, Shannon goes like

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 3>this and ignores her. It's like, Bros, you guys are

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 3>on a TV show together.

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 2>You have to find a way to make some kind

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 2>of an amicable working relationship.

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 3>You ain't gotta like your secretary or your partner's secretary.

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 3>But you gotta sayhyd or when you walk in the door.

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 2>You gotta be amicable because you work in the same building,

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 2>so you're kind of the same thing.

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 3>So I was excited to I was excited.

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 4>I like it.

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, no, no, no, The thing is this, I just

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 1>don't need it spoon fed to me that we're trying

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>to off camera have these friendly texts. I agree with

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 1>everything you're saying, Like, yes, I don't. I'm not saying

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I want you try to fight. All I'm saying is

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't need every episode to hear about a text

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>she said, good morning, and can I bring over her

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 1>paper towels to help you clean?

0:31:57.520 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 4>Like I, I.

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Don't need to be told what you guys are doing.

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm okay.

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually okay with you guys co existing at work

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>and not having to speak to each other besides pleasantries.

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 4>Okay, you know, like I don't know. I don't I

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 4>don't listen rain drops.

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Let us know in the comments if you really do

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>need to hear life updates about a text between Tamra

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Shannon to make it balid that they are trying to

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 1>work in their friendship. I'm just saying they're not friends,

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 1>they'll never be friends. I'm with Alexis Janssen. Co exists.

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 1>You guys are co workers, and I'm okay with that.

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:48.959
<v Speaker 2>I think they're just trying to make it look like

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 2>it is happening behind the scenes, not just for the camera.

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 3>I think that's the point, and that's what you don't want.

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 2>You don't want to see the for the camera, behind

0:32:57.240 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 2>the scenes texts. Instead, you'd rather just see what plays

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 2>out on care and let it go and leave it be.

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, exactly all of that and more and more, Okay.

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 4>Next, speaking of dramatics, half of the bro has alleged.

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>That she did not sleep last night on her plush

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 1>four hundred count pillow sheets from the Ritz Carlton.

0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 3>Honey, her pillow count ate for her? She count ate

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 3>four hundred.

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 2>She's twelve or sixteen hundreds, honey, because I got at twelve,

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:41.719
<v Speaker 2>she's at sixteen or two. They probably I don't even

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 2>know if they make a two thousand, but she ain't

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 2>had a four hundred.

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 4>That's at your.

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 3>College kids dorm sheets. Just letting like we had to.

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Get please correct me, have our apologies for giving your threat.

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 1>How the the same as your children's dorm.

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 4>Okay, children's dorm.

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:08.800
<v Speaker 3>Her children's dorm also have twelve hundred sixty. I'm just

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:11.920
<v Speaker 3>say mine, don't. I'm not. I'm not unless I'm trying

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 3>to keep my kids a little humble. Here Okay, you

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 3>don't get my thread yet. You gotta hearn it.

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 4>So here we are.

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Heather is saying Alexis she did not sleep last night

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 1>because after Tama's party, she went home and she cried

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 1>herself to sleep because Emily once said to her in

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 1>the premiere episode, you're like one of my best friends now,

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:43.360
<v Speaker 1>which Emily please. And then she was mad that at

0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Tama's party, Emily kind of like Gabe didn't really speak

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:52.320
<v Speaker 1>to her, but then also was kind of like getting

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>it to her in terms of, like you do enough talking.

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk now. And then you know, had

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 1>this starts crying and that she's upset by Emily's actions and.

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:06.280
<v Speaker 4>Again maybe I have a black heart.

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>I just don't buy these emotions that are happening off

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:14.759
<v Speaker 1>camera allegedly, and then to see her cry, I'm like,

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 1>you're crying over Emily Simpson.

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 4>I I don't know.

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 1>I think it's I think they're trying so hard to

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 1>me once again, to make us.

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:32.839
<v Speaker 4>Audience believe that we love each other, we are a

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 4>real friend group, and I just think it's bullshit.

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:38.360
<v Speaker 3>I wonder what you think about this.

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:40.879
<v Speaker 2>I thought when I watched that scene that it really

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 2>had more to do than with just Emily.

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:43.840
<v Speaker 3>I kind of thought because.

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 2>They're kind of they are kind of poking a lot

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 2>at Heather right now. This it seems like they've been,

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:53.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, Heather's had a rough couple episodes, just slightly

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 2>not like nothing. Maybe Carmela hh, okay, she's been put

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:59.439
<v Speaker 2>through the wringer, but Heather's kind of had a little

0:35:59.440 --> 0:35:59.799
<v Speaker 2>bit of it.

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 3>I felt like maybe it's more of that just pent

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 3>up from having like.

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 2>It seems like everyone's kind of got an issue or

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:07.800
<v Speaker 2>something to say about Heather, and that's I kind of

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 2>thought maybe the tears were coming and she didn't sleep

0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:12.320
<v Speaker 2>because of Emily. But I also in my mind was thinking,

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, when I do know Heather and she is sensitive,

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:17.319
<v Speaker 2>So I was also thinking, maybe it's just because there

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 2>was too too many you know things, and.

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 3>Just added to it. That was just the that's what

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 3>made it spills over kind of thing, you know.

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:28.360
<v Speaker 4>I actually received that I received that.

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I think because she hasn't been in the hot seat

0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:35.239
<v Speaker 1>like this. That was like if you've removed Carmela that

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 1>every episode people had from Gin to camera to Emily,

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 1>they have been calling out Heather because I think they

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 1>now feel like you are one way behind the scenes

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 1>and you are another on camera.

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:52.399
<v Speaker 4>So that see, that makes sense to.

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Me if I wonder, I just wondered when I was

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 2>watching it, because I agreed with you.

0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:57.359
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I don't think she'd really cry.

0:36:57.400 --> 0:36:58.839
<v Speaker 2>I know she's sensitive, but I don't think she'd cry

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:01.759
<v Speaker 2>only over that even I wouldn't probably even carry over

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:04.840
<v Speaker 2>just that. I just think it was because Heather feels like,

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:07.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, like it's always something with me right now,

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:09.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, and Heather has had a couple of really

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:11.800
<v Speaker 2>good seasons and easy seasons where she's gone.

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 4>So.

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm it all started when Jen just started

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:19.879
<v Speaker 2>calling her out this season. You know, Jen's the one

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 2>that kind of threw under the bus a little and said,

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, you were talking about smack on Tamra, and

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:26.799
<v Speaker 2>now I don't trust you as much.

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think because Jen called her out, then Tamra

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>said we are social besties, right and then Emily saying

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 1>to her like, well you did say this about Jen

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 1>and Jen finding out Tamra's party. All of that makes

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 1>complete sense to me, and that should have been Heather's

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 1>response to it in terms of why is everyone attacking me?

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 1>I have done nothing whatever she wants to say. But

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Heather has always had it easy. Heather has has it's

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:07.839
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen a season ever besides this one where

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:12.279
<v Speaker 1>Heather has been called out for how duplicit is she

0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:16.759
<v Speaker 1>is with these women, And I actually think there's that's

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 1>a fresh up.

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:19.120
<v Speaker 4>There's a fresher breath.

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:23.839
<v Speaker 3>No, a breath of breath of fresh air. You usually

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:25.319
<v Speaker 3>have to help me. I got you on this one.

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:30.879
<v Speaker 1>I owe you, okay, a breath of fresh Okay, let's

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:33.439
<v Speaker 1>get imagine a fresh of breadth air.

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:35.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, what the fuck am I saying right now?

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:40.320
<v Speaker 1>A breath of fresh air that they have been calling

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 1>her out. I think I find that, honestly to be

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 1>interesting because it's new.

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Well it's new, and for me, I feel like it's

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 2>actually organic, where some of this stuff, like they're still

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 2>talking about a handbag and a vibrator. It's like, I

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 2>feel like that's kind of organic thing. That the women

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 2>are feeling. So I think that that's the kind of

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 2>stuff I like to hear and see, not that it's

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:02.800
<v Speaker 2>on Heather or whatever. I just like the more organic

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 2>stuff than when they're reaching into a bag of tricks

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 2>trying to pull something out of the hat just to

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 2>make something, you know, work, Because you know, like you

0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 2>and I are saying, it's like all of this drama

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 2>that's happening right now is just so it just doesn't

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:19.239
<v Speaker 2>seem I don't know if it's authentic or if it

0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:21.279
<v Speaker 2>just doesn't seem like it's something they'd really still be

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 2>talking about. Like I just don't know a group of

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:25.359
<v Speaker 2>women that would still be talking about it this many

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 2>days later of getting around each other, you know. So yeah,

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:31.920
<v Speaker 2>let's see where they go with Heather, because I don't

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:33.440
<v Speaker 2>know if they're done or that's the end of it

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 2>now that she cried, they're going to ease up on

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 2>her or what.

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah, I'm with you, because even when Emily

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:45.440
<v Speaker 1>and Tamra are walking and talking, you know, I'm sorry

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Gina and Tamar are walking and talking. You know, Look, Gina,

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:55.359
<v Speaker 1>Gina is trying to explain to Tamra why she's very

0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 1>cautious against Carmela. And one thing that I think you're

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:03.440
<v Speaker 1>not I agree with is in real life, Gina and

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Emily are best friends.

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 4>Like that's they are. They are best friends.

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:14.719
<v Speaker 1>I could see Gina having you know, a good eye

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:18.719
<v Speaker 1>on Carmela based on like what are you trying to do?

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 4>So she's telling Tamra that.

0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:28.279
<v Speaker 1>She just believes Carmela has a motive in this d

0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:33.000
<v Speaker 1>or bad giving and giving her something to masturbate with.

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 1>She feels like this isn't normal, and she wonders if

0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Carmela is trying to win over Emily by doing this.

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 1>And do you think, Alex is that Gina is just

0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:53.239
<v Speaker 1>a little jealous that someone wants to be friends with

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 1>her best friend.

0:40:57.080 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Gosh, this is hard, I think if I'm really thinking

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:05.319
<v Speaker 2>about it, I think again, they're pulling at stuff to

0:41:05.320 --> 0:41:07.359
<v Speaker 2>try to find some kind of drama somewhere, and it's

0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:10.239
<v Speaker 2>easy to target Carmela because she's the new one and

0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 2>she do bold gestures. But I don't know if I think,

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:17.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that if I agree that Gina's jealous

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:19.760
<v Speaker 2>of it, I think that I think Emily just happened

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 2>to be the first person that had a birthday, and

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:23.520
<v Speaker 2>they were doing it at a drag show and they

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:25.319
<v Speaker 2>all dressed up as old women. So it's all kind

0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 2>of quirky in itself and kind of weird, and it's

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:30.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, in itself, and then yet and playing bingo.

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:32.919
<v Speaker 2>Add all those things together, it's just all it's all

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:34.959
<v Speaker 2>just a jumble, you know, but it's kind of cool.

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:37.160
<v Speaker 2>It's fun, and it's fun to watch. So I think that

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:40.480
<v Speaker 2>if it would have been anyone's birthday, gins Vicki's, I

0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:42.879
<v Speaker 2>think Carmela would have given the same gift. I think

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Carmela was literally just trying to be funny.

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:46.640
<v Speaker 2>You can tell she has a sense of humor, and

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:47.960
<v Speaker 2>she does not take things seriously.

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:50.120
<v Speaker 3>She lets she lets it roll off.

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 2>As far from what I can tell. I mean, we

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:54.400
<v Speaker 2>don't know her, but I act like I do. And

0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:57.839
<v Speaker 2>so I don't know what I think about Gina. If

0:41:57.880 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 2>she's jealous, what do you think?

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:02.320
<v Speaker 4>I actually agree with you one hundred percent.

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she's jealous, because the thing is.

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 4>No one can take they've been on this show.

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:12.839
<v Speaker 1>I thought about this last night as I was watching it.

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:18.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm like Gina and Emily have been on like I

0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:21.880
<v Speaker 1>think seven years, which is like kudos to them right

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:24.880
<v Speaker 1>to last that long, especially when social media. One of

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 1>them gone after their second season, but they have survived.

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I think in seven seasons you see Emily make friendships

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 1>with other women. I just don't think anybody can come

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 1>between them. I will agree with you, and I do

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 1>feel like this is just the way it is this season.

0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:46.359
<v Speaker 1>As we're seeing five episodes in, I think they all

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:50.799
<v Speaker 1>collectively said, this is something that we can harp on.

0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I don't think Gina's jealous. I don't

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 1>think she I don't think she's even worried that Emily

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 1>is going to be thrown for the that's not even

0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:05.840
<v Speaker 1>a real of possibilities. I think Gina saw an opening

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:10.759
<v Speaker 1>to start from drama, and she is going to use

0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 1>it for her safety net.

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Speaker 4>For her job.

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:16.759
<v Speaker 2>That's what I was kind of thinking. I was kind

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:19.359
<v Speaker 2>of like, there's not a lot of true drama. Then

0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:21.440
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, like I said, Carmela is the easy

0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 2>target right now because she's new. She's doing bold things

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:29.360
<v Speaker 2>that create stir and create conflict naturally or create I

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:31.880
<v Speaker 2>guess it's not conflict, but like create questions.

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:36.359
<v Speaker 3>So I just think it was an easy and yeah.

0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 1>So Vicky has an event and the girl's all there.

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Tamar tells Vicky she invited Carmela, which I.

0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 3>Was like, that's pretty bold.

0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 2>You don't usually do that to Vicki because it's like

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:50.440
<v Speaker 2>she's not really an easy going kind of girl when

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 2>it's about that kind of thing.

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:53.359
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't have done that. But Kara was like, yeah,

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 3>well she's coming, so be ready, be ready. Vicki was like,

0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 3>oh oh, oh okay, and then Vicky smile.

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:00.239
<v Speaker 4>Oh God.

0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 3>I love Vicky. I love her back on the screen,

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 3>her smile.

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:04.279
<v Speaker 2>When she was like, well she's not even supposed to

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:10.600
<v Speaker 2>be oh hi, I was like, nape, I love you, Vicky.

0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:14.520
<v Speaker 3>I just love you. I text I love her this season.

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:16.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, girl, you are making me because she doesn't

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 2>watch the episodes ever, and.

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:20.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, that's it my pants.

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 2>No no, I just had a long call with her,

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:24.400
<v Speaker 2>but she's she had didn't see that episode, so I

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:25.799
<v Speaker 2>told her what it was about. I go, girl, you

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 2>are keeping me like laughing and Carlos so much like,

0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 2>we are just laughing, ya we.

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:33.400
<v Speaker 4>Love I thought it was hysterical.

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I actually laughed out loud when Carmela is greeting Vicky

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:40.360
<v Speaker 1>and she was like, you know, we already met, and

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Vicky corrects her says, we met ish, and then.

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 2>They flap flashed back to the two times that they

0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 2>have already been around each other and met. So it's

0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:52.799
<v Speaker 2>just that's just Vicky and you know, and Vicky's mine.

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:55.239
<v Speaker 2>She's like, I don't know who you are. I can

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:57.680
<v Speaker 2>totally see Vicky and know exactly what she's thinking in

0:44:57.719 --> 0:44:58.120
<v Speaker 2>that moment.

0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:00.000
<v Speaker 3>She's like, we have not sat down and have coffee.

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't know smack about you. And yeah, we've seen.

0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:10.439
<v Speaker 2>Each other at two different work moments, you know, when

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 2>we're at a bingo party dressed as old women and

0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:15.040
<v Speaker 2>the other one we're at the Valentine's Day party.

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:17.279
<v Speaker 3>But you did meet twice, Vicky.

0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Mad Is And I think that's why she said that,

0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 1>because to your point, they're not conversing off camera, because

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:30.080
<v Speaker 1>what we also learned in this episode that Carmela Gina

0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 1>does not have Carmelo's number, which shows you that after

0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:36.279
<v Speaker 1>five episodes in, you're not trying to get to know

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Carmela off camera. So I think to your point, Vicky,

0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:41.839
<v Speaker 1>mine is sort of like, I don't know you because

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I only see you when we're working.

0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:46.600
<v Speaker 4>And that's what to me is going to be.

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 1>What Gina said last night, watch Happens Live, We're going

0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:52.200
<v Speaker 1>to see more of because Vicki is not letting up

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:53.960
<v Speaker 1>on Carmela at all.

0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:57.359
<v Speaker 2>But Carlos, she was a producer, know that, Like when

0:45:57.360 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 2>you're a cast member, you are very highly told or

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 2>discouraged from communicating with the housewives outside of filming. So

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:09.400
<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't be so odd that she didn't have Carmela's

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:11.600
<v Speaker 2>number yet after the reunion have at it.

0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:14.160
<v Speaker 3>You can talk all you want, but during production they.

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Highly discourage you discussing, and you can even get a

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:19.960
<v Speaker 2>slap on the wrist for talking off camera because they

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:22.760
<v Speaker 2>want to leave everything organic, which I get it, you know,

0:46:23.040 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 2>So it doesn't to me. That didn't make me feel

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:28.799
<v Speaker 2>weird that she didn't have Carmela's cell yet because they

0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:30.760
<v Speaker 2>just met. They met as they were working. They weren't

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:33.239
<v Speaker 2>they haven't been done filming yet. Now they are, I'm sure,

0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:35.799
<v Speaker 2>and they've all exchanged numbers, but like you know, I

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:39.279
<v Speaker 2>don't know. So, Plus it kind of just seemed very

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:42.880
<v Speaker 2>from the beginning like that Gina just didn't take to

0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:46.839
<v Speaker 2>Carmela very well, like VICKI didn't take to Carmela very well,

0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:47.680
<v Speaker 2>you know those two.

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:49.799
<v Speaker 3>I feel like Tamra likes her. I feel like Jin

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:50.399
<v Speaker 3>likes her.

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:52.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, those who like her.

0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:55.399
<v Speaker 3>I think Shenon likes her because they went and did

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:56.399
<v Speaker 3>that little on Q thing.

0:46:56.560 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I think Shan listen in Shannon's world, she

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:05.439
<v Speaker 1>would love for the show to revolve around her, Vickie, Heather,

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:11.000
<v Speaker 1>and she can tolerate Gina and Emily. I think she's

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:13.919
<v Speaker 1>also like, I'll do my job. I would much rather

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:17.719
<v Speaker 1>fill a Carmela than having to deal with Tamera. I

0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:21.280
<v Speaker 1>think that's her mindset, which is why she is open

0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:21.759
<v Speaker 1>to the.

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 4>Idea of a Carmela.

0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:30.400
<v Speaker 1>So Heather tells Emily how she was hurt by her,

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 1>and Emily clarifies that she didn't tell her to shut up.

0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 4>She just said, you've.

0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Been talking all night and now she wanted to talk.

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 1>And then Gina tries to interrupt, and Emily said, I

0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:48.560
<v Speaker 1>don't need you, and Gina took that in terms of

0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:50.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't need you as a friend, I don't need

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:53.920
<v Speaker 1>you as a human being, And once again Emily is

0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:56.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to clarify this point saying I don't need you

0:47:57.000 --> 0:47:59.840
<v Speaker 1>in this conversation right now.

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:04.319
<v Speaker 3>Emily just didn't want two people on her at the

0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:04.799
<v Speaker 3>same time.

0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:06.920
<v Speaker 2>She doesn't want to be corrected twice, she just was

0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 2>like trying to have the conversation with Heather. And again,

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:12.400
<v Speaker 2>I feel like this was just an easy, an easy

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:16.479
<v Speaker 2>argument that looks organic but can cause some drama because

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:18.200
<v Speaker 2>now the two best friends are bickering at the dinner

0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:20.280
<v Speaker 2>table too, you know, so it's all about the dinners.

0:48:21.440 --> 0:48:23.759
<v Speaker 4>And I also felt like, and I hate to be

0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:28.920
<v Speaker 4>this person. I don't want to be.

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I know, listen, honestly, it's not my fault, so like, please,

0:48:34.760 --> 0:48:39.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not Maybe it's just me. I'm not buying anything

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:42.120
<v Speaker 1>this season is real. I'm just not buying it that

0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Emily Gina Mishap. I thought, was those two leaning in

0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:49.839
<v Speaker 1>because they don't have anything else leaning into.

0:48:50.239 --> 0:48:52.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't. I don't.

0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:56.279
<v Speaker 1>I think I think Gina took something that we all

0:48:56.360 --> 0:48:59.399
<v Speaker 1>know Emily did not mean, and she ran with it

0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:03.960
<v Speaker 1>for this of drama, like let us argue so that

0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:05.600
<v Speaker 1>we're giving them something different.

0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:07.160
<v Speaker 4>I just I didn't.

0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I did not think for a second that Gina was

0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:13.160
<v Speaker 1>really offended by something so small.

0:49:13.280 --> 0:49:17.360
<v Speaker 4>I just I just did not buy that for a second.

0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:19.839
<v Speaker 3>Well, and I know you know your best friend too.

0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:21.800
<v Speaker 2>It's like you know your best friend better than anyone,

0:49:21.840 --> 0:49:23.840
<v Speaker 2>so you know that you know Emily didn't mean it.

0:49:23.880 --> 0:49:27.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't need you like in life, so.

0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:30.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, your point could be valid. Did you buy it?

0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:49:32.200 --> 0:49:34.160
<v Speaker 3>I didn't. I didn't.

0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:35.400
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was I thought it was just for

0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:36.880
<v Speaker 2>the It was like playing it up for the camera

0:49:36.960 --> 0:49:39.359
<v Speaker 2>to now have two best friends fighting at the dinner table,

0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:41.320
<v Speaker 2>also just to create more drama at dinner.

0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:48.800
<v Speaker 1>And that leads me to Gina's argument with Carmela. Gina

0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:53.200
<v Speaker 1>tells Carmela that she did hear that she told Heather.

0:49:55.320 --> 0:49:57.960
<v Speaker 4>That Emily talks too much.

0:49:58.480 --> 0:50:02.920
<v Speaker 1>And then at her birthday party, you know, she brought

0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the gift and she felt like, if you feel like

0:50:05.560 --> 0:50:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Emily talks too much, why bring her a gift. And

0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:13.600
<v Speaker 1>then Carmela's trying to explain herself even when it came

0:50:13.680 --> 0:50:17.319
<v Speaker 1>to like her business, and she's in the hot seat,

0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 1>and Gina is really, you know, yelling at her.

0:50:22.719 --> 0:50:23.959
<v Speaker 4>Saying, this is my best friend.

0:50:24.000 --> 0:50:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Now hold on, baby, you don't want.

0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:34.359
<v Speaker 4>Alexis. I literally was like, what am I watching right? Now,

0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:39.040
<v Speaker 4>I just I'm not buying any of this bullshit. I'm

0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:40.640
<v Speaker 4>just not buying for you. Carlos.

0:50:40.680 --> 0:50:42.600
<v Speaker 2>From what I'm gathering from what you're saying is you

0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:45.799
<v Speaker 2>thought this dinner was a really absolute fail flop.

0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:49.880
<v Speaker 3>Zero on a scale of one I am gathering.

0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Sending my way, I'm kind of picking it up a

0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:56.200
<v Speaker 2>little that girls, you did not do a good job

0:50:56.200 --> 0:50:56.800
<v Speaker 2>at this dinner.

0:50:57.800 --> 0:51:01.960
<v Speaker 3>I just I just was, per Carlos King's words.

0:51:02.480 --> 0:51:06.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, you know what I wish would have happened, honestly,

0:51:06.840 --> 0:51:09.360
<v Speaker 1>and listen, I want to get your thoughts obviously on

0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:13.480
<v Speaker 1>the Gina and Carmela thing. First of all, shout out

0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:19.680
<v Speaker 1>to Carmela for hanging in there and for standing up

0:51:19.719 --> 0:51:22.920
<v Speaker 1>for herself against all these women as a newbie.

0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:24.440
<v Speaker 4>That is not easy.

0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:28.879
<v Speaker 1>If anything, if anything similar to Amanda Francis when when

0:51:28.880 --> 0:51:32.880
<v Speaker 1>those women were so mean to a Mandam Beverly Hills,

0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:36.480
<v Speaker 1>it made us like Amanda more. Seeing how they're so

0:51:36.840 --> 0:51:41.360
<v Speaker 1>mean to Carmela and how Carmela is standing up for

0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:45.200
<v Speaker 1>herself in a very respectful way, it's making us like.

0:51:45.160 --> 0:51:46.360
<v Speaker 4>Carmela even more.

0:51:47.000 --> 0:51:49.480
<v Speaker 1>And I will say the one thing that came out

0:51:49.520 --> 0:51:54.359
<v Speaker 1>of it that I did enjoy. I I'm I'm I

0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:56.760
<v Speaker 1>love all the girls. I will say this on the record.

0:51:57.520 --> 0:52:00.719
<v Speaker 1>As of now, I'm only interested in seeing Carmela, like

0:52:01.000 --> 0:52:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't, I am I am. No one's giving me anything.

0:52:07.360 --> 0:52:11.719
<v Speaker 1>No one's giving me anything. No one's giving me appointment television.

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:14.479
<v Speaker 1>No one's giving me anything that makes me I can't

0:52:14.520 --> 0:52:17.840
<v Speaker 1>wait until next week. No one's giving me anything that's

0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:20.799
<v Speaker 1>allowing me to be like, ooh what what what?

0:52:20.800 --> 0:52:21.320
<v Speaker 4>What?

0:52:21.040 --> 0:52:21.080
<v Speaker 2>What?

0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:22.879
<v Speaker 4>What's the next scene after that?

0:52:23.520 --> 0:52:27.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, every time Carmela is in her personal story scene,

0:52:27.640 --> 0:52:28.320
<v Speaker 1>I'll speak.

0:52:28.120 --> 0:52:32.080
<v Speaker 4>For my sub Alexis, I'm glued. I'm like, oh, what's that?

0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Because you don't know where she's bold, you don't know

0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:35.960
<v Speaker 2>what's coming out of her mouth next. She just we

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:39.000
<v Speaker 2>just found out she was arrested and assaulted and has

0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:41.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, you just don't know what's happening in her

0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:44.200
<v Speaker 2>And I agree with you, like I I love the

0:52:44.200 --> 0:52:47.560
<v Speaker 2>fact that what's respectable is that Carmela isn't sitting there

0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:50.360
<v Speaker 2>like a wallflower and taking the beating when everyone's ganging

0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:54.960
<v Speaker 2>on her. She's saying things very eloquently instead of just

0:52:55.000 --> 0:52:57.879
<v Speaker 2>spouting off and acting mad because you get you can

0:52:58.040 --> 0:53:00.359
<v Speaker 2>actually get people to listen when you're actually saying something

0:53:00.360 --> 0:53:03.920
<v Speaker 2>that's intelligent and not using fighting words and you're just

0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:07.000
<v Speaker 2>speaking calmly and she never loses her cool. It's just

0:53:07.080 --> 0:53:10.080
<v Speaker 2>it's really it's a good job for being a first

0:53:10.120 --> 0:53:15.640
<v Speaker 2>year rookie for sure, you know, but you are really

0:53:15.800 --> 0:53:18.240
<v Speaker 2>just I'm gonna just let you run with it because

0:53:18.280 --> 0:53:22.400
<v Speaker 2>you are. You are not happy. Well, here's the thing, Carlos.

0:53:22.400 --> 0:53:25.479
<v Speaker 2>So last year when we did season nineteen of OC,

0:53:26.280 --> 0:53:28.520
<v Speaker 2>how many episodes did it take? And then Beverly Hills

0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:30.960
<v Speaker 2>took us toll like eight till you and I were like, oh,

0:53:30.960 --> 0:53:33.919
<v Speaker 2>we're in now, baby, So we're only on five. Maybe

0:53:33.920 --> 0:53:36.319
<v Speaker 2>it's another slow burn. Maybe this season's going to be

0:53:36.320 --> 0:53:38.600
<v Speaker 2>a slow burn. Although I did watch the preview for

0:53:38.640 --> 0:53:40.640
<v Speaker 2>next week. What did you think of that preview? Because

0:53:40.640 --> 0:53:44.080
<v Speaker 2>I usually love the previews show like make you want

0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:44.560
<v Speaker 2>to watch it?

0:53:44.600 --> 0:53:44.799
<v Speaker 4>You know?

0:53:45.760 --> 0:53:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like the only listen as a as

0:53:49.680 --> 0:53:54.440
<v Speaker 1>a viewer. The only thing I'm remotely interested in seeing

0:53:54.480 --> 0:53:56.480
<v Speaker 1>with drama is Vig and Carmela.

0:53:56.719 --> 0:53:59.160
<v Speaker 4>I cause I think that.

0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's real, that's a real.

0:54:01.719 --> 0:54:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I was just about to say, I think it's so

0:54:03.600 --> 0:54:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a real issue.

0:54:04.880 --> 0:54:05.879
<v Speaker 4>I think it's a real thing.

0:54:06.040 --> 0:54:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I think even when Carmela called out Vicky for putting

0:54:09.440 --> 0:54:12.920
<v Speaker 1>women down and Vicky says, you're not a flipper, you're

0:54:12.920 --> 0:54:17.959
<v Speaker 1>a developer there and talked about like what her soon

0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:22.120
<v Speaker 1>to be, you know, a husband, he's a developer, and

0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:25.200
<v Speaker 1>she's confused by it. And I really do think Vicky

0:54:25.280 --> 0:54:27.879
<v Speaker 1>is confused by it. But I think it's also semantics.

0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:32.080
<v Speaker 1>And but but I will say I'm intrigued by that

0:54:32.120 --> 0:54:35.640
<v Speaker 1>because that, to me is who Vicky is. Vicky is

0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:39.640
<v Speaker 1>a career woman, and if Vicky can poke holes at

0:54:39.680 --> 0:54:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the story, I.

0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:44.840
<v Speaker 4>Think Vicky is really not believing what Carmela does. And

0:54:44.840 --> 0:54:46.120
<v Speaker 4>I think Carmela has.

0:54:45.960 --> 0:54:49.040
<v Speaker 1>A real issue with it because I think, based on

0:54:49.040 --> 0:54:53.359
<v Speaker 1>her being a former playmate model, she already knows that

0:54:53.920 --> 0:54:56.640
<v Speaker 1>more than likely people think she's an airhead and that

0:54:56.760 --> 0:54:58.200
<v Speaker 1>she lays on her back for money.

0:54:58.280 --> 0:55:00.319
<v Speaker 4>And I think she's trying to prove the people well.

0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:03.960
<v Speaker 1>That I also have this going on in respect that

0:55:04.040 --> 0:55:07.279
<v Speaker 1>I do this and and I and I'm here for that.

0:55:08.360 --> 0:55:12.439
<v Speaker 3>And I believe Carmela is successful on her own. I don't.

0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:14.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't care what the name of what she's doing

0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:18.120
<v Speaker 2>is I don't care if it's developer, flipper, toilet cleaner,

0:55:18.160 --> 0:55:19.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't care what the title is. I think she's

0:55:19.640 --> 0:55:24.680
<v Speaker 2>doing a great job at being successful, you know.

0:55:25.239 --> 0:55:27.000
<v Speaker 3>So that's where I stand.

0:55:27.800 --> 0:55:29.839
<v Speaker 4>No, I I agree with that.

0:55:29.880 --> 0:55:33.040
<v Speaker 1>And so for me, going back to what you said

0:55:33.080 --> 0:55:35.760
<v Speaker 1>earlier about this episode.

0:55:35.360 --> 0:55:38.520
<v Speaker 4>Being warring, it's the problem.

0:55:41.040 --> 0:55:43.759
<v Speaker 3>Notice, hold on, Carlos, let me. I just I just

0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:44.240
<v Speaker 3>had something.

0:55:44.280 --> 0:55:46.080
<v Speaker 2>I want to preface it before you go on your

0:55:46.120 --> 0:55:48.640
<v Speaker 2>tangent right now, because I think of the one name

0:55:49.080 --> 0:55:52.759
<v Speaker 2>that we have not mentioned this entire podcast, the one name.

0:55:55.040 --> 0:55:56.719
<v Speaker 3>Do you think maybe that has something to do with it?

0:55:56.920 --> 0:55:59.280
<v Speaker 3>Because she's sitting back and not doing.

0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Much and she we haven't mentioned Tamra one time because

0:56:03.640 --> 0:56:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Tamra is just everybody's friend this season and trying to

0:56:06.000 --> 0:56:08.560
<v Speaker 2>really change and be the you know, calmer and this

0:56:08.600 --> 0:56:12.480
<v Speaker 2>and that. But if she wasn't, guess what, we'd be

0:56:12.560 --> 0:56:16.280
<v Speaker 2>probably liking some stuff. We wouldn't be saying it's boring.

0:56:18.400 --> 0:56:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I I want to cry. Listen. I okay, you this

0:56:30.520 --> 0:56:33.280
<v Speaker 1>is our I feel like we would doing this forever.

0:56:34.120 --> 0:56:38.560
<v Speaker 4>This is our third recap. I'll see her second second.

0:56:39.000 --> 0:56:39.640
<v Speaker 3>No, it's our third.

0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:44.960
<v Speaker 2>The first one was season oh maybe, second, it's only

0:56:45.040 --> 0:56:46.600
<v Speaker 2>nineteen and twenty, because I was on eighteen.

0:56:47.760 --> 0:56:48.200
<v Speaker 4>What it was?

0:56:48.640 --> 0:56:51.400
<v Speaker 2>I came on your podcast a few times in season

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:54.359
<v Speaker 2>eighteen as a guest, not as a co host.

0:56:54.880 --> 0:56:56.000
<v Speaker 3>Whatever you call me. I don't know.

0:56:56.360 --> 0:57:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, side kicks, baby, you're nob psidekick. So

0:57:05.000 --> 0:57:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I just I remember telling everybody. I literally would call

0:57:09.040 --> 0:57:11.680
<v Speaker 1>people or I would have dinner and they're like, what

0:57:11.719 --> 0:57:14.440
<v Speaker 1>are you watching? And I'm like, you guys have to

0:57:14.480 --> 0:57:16.760
<v Speaker 1>watch OC and They're like, shut the fuck up, are

0:57:16.760 --> 0:57:17.360
<v Speaker 1>you serious?

0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:22.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, no, OC is so good. Like you came

0:57:22.960 --> 0:57:24.280
<v Speaker 4>back what was it eighteen?

0:57:25.560 --> 0:57:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I told these motherfuckers, I said, eighteen is so good.

0:57:30.080 --> 0:57:35.000
<v Speaker 4>Watch it nineteen? So well, seventeen was good.

0:57:35.160 --> 0:57:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I think no, because Tamar came back seventeen and that's

0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:41.439
<v Speaker 1>what we met Jen, So I said, seventeen.

0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:44.080
<v Speaker 4>Good, eighteen good. Nineteen.

0:57:44.200 --> 0:57:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Last year people complained about the darkness or whatever, you know,

0:57:47.960 --> 0:57:50.720
<v Speaker 1>but the whole thing was, like Katie and Gretchen, I

0:57:50.840 --> 0:57:53.040
<v Speaker 1>have to admit you and I before like this is

0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:55.840
<v Speaker 1>so fucking good, like whatever, well, again.

0:57:55.760 --> 0:57:59.000
<v Speaker 3>It's organic. It was real things that were causing real problems.

0:57:59.280 --> 0:58:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Yes, So for the past three years I people know

0:58:04.360 --> 0:58:09.640
<v Speaker 1>me were like Carlo's favorite housewife is OC, like he

0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:12.960
<v Speaker 1>he can't stop talking about OC. And then this season,

0:58:14.360 --> 0:58:18.320
<v Speaker 1>I think, because it's the twentieth I did expect more,

0:58:19.320 --> 0:58:24.960
<v Speaker 1>and with the return of Vicky, I did expect more.

0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:28.760
<v Speaker 4>And this could be unpopular and it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just a little bit underwhelmed with this season, if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being honest.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, maybe a little kick into high gear, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, And that's the thing I was thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>last night when we were gonna be potting today and

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking, you know, it really was boring. I

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<v Speaker 2>had to, like, I had to keep myself from going

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<v Speaker 2>to like go get laundry and do this or do

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<v Speaker 2>that in between you. I was finding it was like

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<v Speaker 2>and then I would watch the scene and I would

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<v Speaker 2>kind of start thinking about work tomorrow and things had

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<v Speaker 2>to do first thing in the morning, and then I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be back and be like, okay, so and then I

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<v Speaker 2>had to rewind and watch it again. So I just

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<v Speaker 2>am hoping that see, you know, like like with RHO

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<v Speaker 2>at Beverly Hills, it season or let's put it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Beverly Hills episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight turned for you and I And when we got

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<v Speaker 2>on the pod that morning, we were like it was

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<v Speaker 2>all back. We were like doing backflips and our chairs

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<v Speaker 2>and all that. I'm just thinking, it's episode five. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to be optimistic, clat and glass half full. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>just wait and see. And do you know is there

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen episodes? I think I heard somewhere is it seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>with the reunion because Beverly Hills had twenty one with

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<v Speaker 2>the Yeah, I'm wondering if so. Then from eight to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one, Carlos, you and I were in and it

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<v Speaker 2>was great.

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<v Speaker 3>So if they have seventeen by eight, that's your halfway through.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, that we're halfway through, and they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to Vegas next in the in the.

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<v Speaker 2>No, and I don't even I'm sorry, but I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to see you put on a costume.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, see some the thing is is not okay. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel bad anymore, because of course, I'm thinking, like

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<v Speaker 1>in my senecol I just think that been there, done that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen this all before. I've seen the biggest thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen the costumes. I've seen it, and I think,

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<v Speaker 1>what's being shoved out our throats is we are real

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<v Speaker 1>friends who have fun, and I just think that what

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<v Speaker 1>we love about these shows is yes, that, but obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we love real organic drama, conflict resolution, and you hit

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<v Speaker 1>the nail on the head. I think, because Tamra has

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<v Speaker 1>to be so subdued that this is what happens when

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<v Speaker 1>you put baby in the corner.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, that's good, yep, and that's exam Like, look at

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<v Speaker 6>the one name we didn't bring up till the very

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<v Speaker 6>end because guess what she's been put in the corner.

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<v Speaker 2>It comes out next season or if she comes out.

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<v Speaker 3>The corner, I'll take her dancing.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll take it all. Let me listen, I need that back.

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<v Speaker 4>But we're going to be optimistic. It's episode five.

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<v Speaker 2>We think, let's crush your fingers, let's be up, let's

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<v Speaker 2>be let's be optimistic.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, like Alexis said, I think there's seventeen episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>so we have twelve more to go.

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<v Speaker 4>And I heard I.

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<v Speaker 2>Heard approximately seventeen or read it somewhere, so I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but maybe a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we have a few more episodes to go.

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<v Speaker 1>But ran John, listen, let us know. In the comments,

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<v Speaker 1>comments on Apple, on Spotify or tweet us, but let

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<v Speaker 1>us know your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to ask you next when when you're looking

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<v Speaker 2>at all these comments, I'm going to ask you next

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<v Speaker 2>week when we.

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<v Speaker 3>Start what what are they bored with it?

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<v Speaker 6>Two?

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<v Speaker 2>Or are they liking it? Because maybe you and I

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<v Speaker 2>are just maybe you and I are just being too

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<v Speaker 2>critical because we do this for a living.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this. I will say this. I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>on threads. Okay, I forgot which housewife of OC asked

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<v Speaker 1>the question, maybe Tamera maybe, but someone did ask are

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<v Speaker 1>you guys? Are you guys enduring season twenty so far?

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<v Speaker 1>And it was it was Oh, the overwhelming response was boring.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh so it's not it's not just.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, but said I am going to be optimistic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but listen, let us know your thoughts on the

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<v Speaker 1>episode rain Drops. Let us have the Spotify comments, and

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<v Speaker 1>like Alexis said, come next week, I am going to

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<v Speaker 1>read Alexis the comments. So you have an opportunity, brain

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<v Speaker 1>Drops to get your name shout it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's do three.

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<v Speaker 2>Do at least one from each the threat the change

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<v Speaker 2>you just said, at at least three comments, so one

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<v Speaker 2>of from each and let's just see what the you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to see the overall consensus anyway, but like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>to read three will be fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Love to hear three of the best ones.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm actually into that.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll do that. So Alexis, I will see you

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<v Speaker 1>next week. Keep your faith beautiful lifted.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we're no, we're faithlifts for a decade.

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<v Speaker 4>We're good. You're good, You're good. All right. I love you, baby, though.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a good weekend, guys. Bye bye bye.

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