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Speaker 1: my mom uh huh, look like my aunt Sandy Red

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Speaker 1: braw Top. I'm a devil. My art made sweeting about

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Speaker 1: being morney. Oh my god, I need a wine business.

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Speaker 1: Hitting the mic with the macha. If you can't see this,

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Speaker 1: it's on you, trickle Kyle, shooting is really difficult to

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Speaker 1: pick your head up, Queen, your crown's falling.

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Speaker 2: What do we even do? What are we even doing?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Haunted Show. I'm a huge Halloween fan.

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Speaker 2: We would do a Halloween hallway in New York and

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well, all.

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Speaker 2: The kids would have to come in and hit We

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Speaker 2: all the way to the end of the cauldron, the

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Speaker 2: it was full of full of crazy stuff.

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Speaker 1: But that's you want to be that house because then

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Speaker 3: That's we had great candy, full.

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Speaker 1: Size, none of this little bullshit bullshow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going deep.

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Speaker 2: We're we're going hey, hello everyone. I know I look

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Speaker 2: a little different. This is our Halloween episode. I can't

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Speaker 2: Not forget that, ah, the pressure of Halloween. This is

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Speaker 2: where we sit down with actors, musicians, creatives. We talk process,

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Speaker 2: we talk creativity, we talk about how they're shaking up

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Speaker 2: the wonderful world of the Internet. It's wild and willy,

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna get crazy and we're gonna get weird,

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Speaker 2: but in a good way. And tonight, oh, I can

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Speaker 2: say tonight because it's a Halloween night. Tonight, we have

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Speaker 2: a brilliant and hysterical actress, this writer producer known for

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Speaker 2: the film's bottom Bodies, Bodies, Bodies, Shiva Baby, what's the

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Speaker 2: trailer of that. It's fantastic. I used to be funny

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Speaker 2: and more. This is the original, the one and only

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Speaker 2: Trickily Child aka Rachel Sennett. I am so happy to

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Speaker 2: see you. You are unbelievable. Cheers, thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you for having me this little different too.

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Speaker 1: I know, I just thought i'd throw this on. I

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Speaker 1: Do you love the movie?

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Speaker 2: A great movie.

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Speaker 1: It's such a great movie.

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Speaker 3: You look like.

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Speaker 1: The princess, like a prince.

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Speaker 2: Shut up, you look like a princess. The question is

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Speaker 1: Yes, you know you walk and honestly very Julie Andrews

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Speaker 1: Warm Yes, she has warm. She has some banger lines

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Speaker 1: and that I love. A queen is never late. Everyone

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Speaker 1: It's a fabulous place to meet. All the lights are off,

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Speaker 1: You need to learn the Shakespeare monologue and perform it

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Speaker 1: I was like going to like open mics and falling

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Speaker 1: It seems like I think you would be fabulous.

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Speaker 2: Acting is because you can hide.

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Speaker 1: That would be fabulous.

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Speaker 1: with God.

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00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:36,920
Speaker 2: Go go, go and go with God.

444
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 1: Let go and go What is it called? Let go

445
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 1: and let God?

446
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 2: Like going like God, let go and let God?

447
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like do you just feel.

448
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, And that that does come with time and experience,

449
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 2: I think, because when I first started, I was much

450
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 2: more controlled and like got to you know, stay in

451
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 2: this and for God's sake. The first thing I did,

452
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 2: Dune was the first thing I did. And here is that.

453
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 2: You know, here's a guy that's under severe control.

454
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, very very strict.

455
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 2: And then I went off into Blue Velvet, which is

456
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 2: a completely different thing. The guy is kind of loose

457
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 2: and free and he's exploring sides of things and enjoying that.

458
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 2: So it was like the push and pull. But I

459
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 2: was blessed with working with David Lynch starting out, Vid Lynch,

460
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 2: who is I mean, was forgetting that one of the

461
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,919
Speaker 2: greats of all time, you know, and not only as

462
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,199
Speaker 2: a director but as a person as well. So, but

463
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 2: I think that the community you talked about earlier, the community,

464
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 2: and we I've now met and we've on the podcast.

465
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: Yes you're seeing my community your community.

466
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well with Harley too, I mean that's I

467
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 2: think I was. First, I was, you know, watching the videos.

468
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: We were doing stuff with it, and I was like,

469
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 2: wait a minute, who's that girl right there and that

470
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,919
Speaker 2: one right there and and so that's Spark.

471
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 1: Series in the back of the visit.

472
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, it's like yeah. It was like and

473
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 2: I was saying, and when I'm talking about like a

474
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 2: persona you had, there's a certain kind of a vibe

475
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 2: projecting within that world.

476
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, she holds the whole audience like a packed insane crowd.

477
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 1: The energy she creates is like insane. And then like

478
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: but then you talk to her and she's so down

479
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 1: to earth and grounded and sweet and funny, like you

480
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And it's cool to have that balance.

481
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: How did y'all meet?

482
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,439
Speaker 1: Okay, I was like I was like a fan. I

483
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 1: was just like tweeting at her, to be honest, like

484
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 1: back when I was on Twitter, I was like literally

485
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 1: like I'm crying to a Charlie song, like Charlie helped me.

486
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: My boyfriend doesn't want to date me. So it was

487
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 1: sort of like crazy behavior. But anyways, she watched Shiva

488
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: Baby and then like I think during COVID and like

489
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: reviewed it on her letter box and then like sort

490
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 1: of we like found each other online. I did her

491
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: podcast remotely, so we first met through that, okay, and

492
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: then she did a song for Bodies Buddies Bodies, which

493
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: was amazing, and then like I went to her show.

494
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 1: I went to I think I first went to her

495
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 1: show with the Greek that was incredible, and then it

496
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: was just I think it just sort of happened naturally,

497
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 1: and like, I think she genuinely wants to root for

498
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 1: and support other artists, and when she finds someone who's

499
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: stuff she likes, she's just like down, Like she she

500
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: did the score for Bottoms and like like she doesn't

501
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: need to do the score for a movie where we're

502
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: paying her five dollars, Like she doesn't need that. And

503
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 1: she was like I love to I'm down, like because

504
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: she like loves shit a baby and believed in me

505
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: and Emma and ioways like creator, you know what I mean.

506
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 1: And I just feel like she's always like looking for

507
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: ways to like bring different people together.

508
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree, I think, and that was the

509
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 2: experience I think a.

510
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: Compensating Yeah, and he's like that too, you know, Yeah,

511
00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 1: brings in his crew and like is really warm and

512
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 1: so funny yea, and like has the charisma where it's

513
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 1: like he's leading the show, but then also can make

514
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: everyone feel welcome on set and feel like they're at

515
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: like like almost like you're hosting a party.

516
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I feel like it's such gratitude. Both Charlie

517
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: and Benny is like they've they've been through it and

518
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 2: they really appreciate. Charlie in particular, she understands the journey. Yeah,

519
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 2: and she's and she has gratitude for the fact that

520
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 2: she's able to have success. Yes, and I think Benny

521
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: as well, and they they share that. They share that

522
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: with the.

523
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 3: People that are around them.

524
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

525
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 2: And they're so welcoming, They're so happy that you're there.

526
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 2: They're so great soul that you're there. And that's just

527
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 2: that's a great world to be able to step into,

528
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 2: like a little film world, like our little crew, our

529
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 2: little posse that we have.

530
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you want to have that.

531
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 2: Everyone is so happy that everyone is there, yea, everyone's

532
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 2: there to contribute.

533
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: Was it a dream filming? Was it so fun?

534
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 3: It was so fun?

535
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so fun. Yeah, it was just really

536
00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 2: a joy.

537
00:24:58,800 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

538
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: And you know, I met but I didn't know, and

539
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 2: now you know friends and follow them and stuff just

540
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 2: because And it's part of why I'm doing this this podcast.

541
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 2: There's a creative community that exists. It's much younger than me,

542
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 2: much different generation that I'm interested in and I'm curious about. Yeah,

543
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 2: what's happening, you know what's important, And it's just it's

544
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 2: like a there's a real sense of family. There's a

545
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: real sense of community. Yeah, like sharing and trading back

546
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 2: and forth.

547
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: I think a thousand percent. And I think also like

548
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: it feels like supportive in a way that I feel

549
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: like when I was like younger growing up, or like

550
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: when I was in acting school, was like told almost

551
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 1: like you watch like chorus line or something or like whatever,

552
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: and it's like all the girls like cutting up each

553
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: other's shoes and whatever. Yeah, and I feel like we're

554
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: really lucky to have this group. Like Benny, like he

555
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: was shooting while I was in the writer's room. Then

556
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: we were shooting while they were editing, So he's always

557
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: like a couple like months ahead of me in the process, right,

558
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 1: And I would be like, the writer's room is really hard.

559
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 1: I I think I'm like wearing pants. I can't think

560
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: of an idea and he was like, donht my love.

561
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: Shooting is really difficult, like whatever, Like giving.

562
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 2: You make you feel better? Ye hard?

563
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, like giving having being able to, like I don't know,

564
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 1: like share less things you've learned or things that are

565
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,719
Speaker 1: fun and whatever. Like it's it's cool to have that

566
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: and have that community.

567
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree. And it's nice to hear that

568
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: they're sharing. And I I know what you mean. When

569
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 2: I was in school too, it's kind of everyone. You know,

570
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 2: you're all every person for themselves. Yeah, you know, you're

571
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 2: like okay, and you just do the best you can.

572
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, they've been absolutely absolutely special. I want to

573
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: ask you about treaty Child and is it because I'm

574
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: so curious about the name and this name of your

575
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 2: production company too, isn't it? Is it not?

576
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 4: Yes?

577
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I couldn't think of any other words. I

578
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: was just like, it's already been Instagram, let's just use that.

579
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 3: And yeah, it was available.

580
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 2: That was good.

581
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was no.

582
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: One knows that word.

583
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: No, And I was going to ask you so treakily,

584
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: I mean to you, I mean, I know it's a

585
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: sweet So it's okay. There's a couple of different version meanings.

586
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: So basically, when I was little, my family would call

587
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: me like a sticky child. It's like a little kid

588
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: that's like sucking on the top of their shirt and

589
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: there's like a little bit of spit here, or like

590
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: there's a little jelly here or something kind of messy.

591
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: So whenever touch you, like you're like, oh, yeah, was

592
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: in the chair and yeah.

593
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: And so I looked for sticky child on Instagram when

594
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: I first met my Instagram, and it was taken. It's

595
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: taken crazy. So then I looked up synonyms for sticky

596
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: and trickly came up. And I also saw that it

597
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: meant like emotional or messy or like mound of something

598
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. And I was like, oh,

599
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: like man, also, it's a dessert.

600
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: Yes, that's that's how I know.

601
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: An you better know I'm a dessert. So I was like,

602
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,719
Speaker 1: I'm doing this and then I just did it like randomly,

603
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: like this is like when I'm in high school, I think,

604
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 1: like I mean, so it's like I just had it,

605
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: like maybe it was when I first got to No,

606
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: I think it was like in high school. And then

607
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: I just made it and it didn't like I didn't

608
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: think like then I'll have Instagram like ten years from now,

609
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: and you.

610
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 3: Were already thinking.

611
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: You already sort of had this idea in your head,

612
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: which I think is amazing.

613
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's that's how it began.

614
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

615
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good story.

616
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: It's a good story.

617
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 3: I'm still looking for a name for me.

618
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: So what do you think?

619
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: So I have one that I like, but it's taken many, many,

620
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: many times. Yeah, just a number because and it's kind

621
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: of a I don't know, I mean, it's a nice

622
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: story to me. Anyway, the story isn't really nice, but

623
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: how what happened after the.

624
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 3: Story is good.

625
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: So my mom passed away January eleventh, eighty six, long

626
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: long time ago.

627
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 3: So it's one one one, and I didn't think much

628
00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 3: about it.

629
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I thought a lot about her passing,

630
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: but the fact they didn't think much about the day,

631
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, But and then I started seeing

632
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: everywhere one one one, yeah.

633
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 3: One one one one would come up wow, like a lot.

634
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was and I began to sort of go,

635
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: I think, wow, I think my mom's around. Yeah. Yeah,

636
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: it's not like I believe, you know, I'm like, they're people.

637
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: But I just said, oh, that's it's either I don't

638
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,479
Speaker 2: know what's happening, obnestly you know, it's just happening. So

639
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: I whenever I see it, I just so I just

640
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: go hang mom, you know, and I think of her,

641
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: you know there, you know, for a minute, and then

642
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: I go onto my next thing.

643
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 4: You know.

644
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 2: It's not like I sit there and d it or

645
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: feel sad. Yeah, it's just oh exactly, I think of her,

646
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: you know, and I'm reminded. And but it's all that

647
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: I said. That was one idea.

648
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: So I love that idea.

649
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: It's a cool idea, and I liked you.

650
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: That it means something to you. But it's not like

651
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: same with Trickly Child in a very different way. But

652
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: it's like you have to sort of not everyone knows

653
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: what the meaning is at a glance, do you know

654
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: what I mean? But you know, but it's sort of like,

655
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: oh what is.

656
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 2: That a little bit of a mystery. Yeah, it has

657
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: power I think because because of that everything is.

658
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, people don't necessarily know exactly what.

659
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: What it is, what it is totally totally.

660
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 3: But I don't know. But but you know, treakily Kyle.

661
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: Kyle, we vote you you I we asserted the Trickly Wars.

662
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: I'm like literally like, hey, back off, back off my hand.

663
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: Trickly no, no, no, no.

664
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Speaker 4: No.

665
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: Girl.

666
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: I feel like but I got a sense of this

667
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: is a very when we talked about claustrophobic, right.

668
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: I remember Emma Seligman, the writer director, being so like

669
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: being being so giving, so many like notes and thoughts

670
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: of being like, it's really got a hit because we

671
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: didn't have it was like a super indie movie. And

672
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: then we didn't have a film festival premiere because of COVID.

673
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: So I remember them being like this, we this is

674
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: all we have in Shiva. Baby. It's very much that

675
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: like end of college, sort of like when you're like,

676
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: oh shit, like I'm entering the real world, like what's

677
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: going to happen whatever? And then I feel like I

678
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: love la is a little bit more like end of

679
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: your twenties sat in Return, which I want to hear

680
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: about yours.

681
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: Remember in Return?

682
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: You do?

683
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 4: Yeah?

684
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, wait what sign are you? Oh my god? Okay,

685
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: so here's the thing. I'm a virgo. So we're in

686
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: but that's together.

687
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 3: Yeah we're perfect.

688
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're perfect together.

689
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: I love it.

690
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 3: We can make a whole person, We can.

691
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: Make all persons. Okay, we together, we could be normal,

692
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: and we strive, we can get really close. But it's

693
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,719
Speaker 1: like you go through hard lessons in your early twenties

694
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: and then the middle of your twenties is sort of

695
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: evens out and you're like, oh, yeah, okay, or it's

696
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: COVID and you're just in your parents' basement. But then

697
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: in the end of your twenties you're sort of like,

698
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: wait a second, fuck, I'm about to be thirty, Like

699
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: is this my life? Or am I changing my whole life?

700
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 1: And then it like everything gets shaken up and you

701
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: land hopefully where you're supposed to land. Yeah, but that's

702
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: a little bit more the chaos, And I'll say it

703
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: hits different like being chaotic. When you're like twenty three,

704
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm drinking in the daytime, I'm doing poppers outside.

705
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: I don't care because you know, you have time to

706
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: fuck up. When you're like twenty eight, you're having a

707
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: fuck up, but you're like, I have to go to

708
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: work tomorrow and I don't even know if I want

709
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: this job. And then am I keeping that my boyfriend?

710
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: Like it's so much more serious because it's not as

711
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: fun to be like messy and free, you know what I.

712
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: Mean, Yeah, completely one side or the other. And that's

713
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 2: I love A lay is like that. I mean, got

714
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: your character in there's like you're trying to like hold

715
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: things together, yes, and your friend comes a visiting and

716
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: you're like ripping. Yeah.

717
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: But do you remember did you have a moment at

718
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: the end of your twenties where you're like, everything's I

719
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: don't know what's happening, everything's getting shaken.

720
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: Up, still happening. Actually, no, I don't know what's happening. Yeah,

721
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: you know it was. It was definitely a move into

722
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: something else. So I had a long term relationship that

723
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: ended and then and then I kind of had a

724
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: little quick, short of relationship and then I got into

725
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: something else long again. I got him in my early thirties,

726
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: and it was I basically just sort of stepped away

727
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 2: from the business in a weird way, and I just

728
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: I got involved in the fashion world more in that

729
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: in that arena, and it was so interesting to me

730
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: because the film business was hard, yeah, and I was

731
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: and I was not. I was not progressing, So I

732
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: was kind of treading water and I said, well, this

733
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 2: isn't really working.

734
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: I don't know what else to do.

735
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: So I basically just took a holiday six year vacation.

736
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: Which is powerful. I think I don't be able, no,

737
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: but I think to be able to like.

738
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: Can I take my crownd just for a second?

739
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: Of course, heavy head the ground?

740
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: I know, heavy, it's so beautiful, but it's also a

741
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: little it's a little bit I'm gonna sitt here for

742
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: just one second.

743
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: But I think it's powerful to be like if this

744
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: is not if I'm not feeling like creatively fulfilled or

745
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: like inspire or whatever, or if I'm feeling frustrated, I

746
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: think there's something like in the same way that it's

747
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: like if you're dating someone and they're treating you like

748
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: shit and you're like, I'm good, love you walk away,

749
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: they go, where do you go?

750
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 3: Right?

751
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: I miss you? I need you? Sorry too late. Yeah,

752
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: But it's like I think, and finding other things that

753
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: fulfill you, because I do think it's a really brutal,

754
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: hard industry, and like I feel like since I graduated college,

755
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 1: there's been like there was COVID, there was a strike,

756
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: like all these things shifting and changing the industry, and

757
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: it's like so hard to ever feel like in control

758
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: or ground. You know, it never feels like enough. So

759
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: I think I think it's I think it's very powerful

760
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: to be creative.

761
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 3: Energy is very strong.

762
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: I mean between the acting, the producing, the writing, you know,

763
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: these are this is, this is, these are all powerful

764
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: forces at work. I think I felt with mine, I

765
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 2: was just like, you know what I'm I'm not really

766
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: going where I want to go. And I think, honestly,

767
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: I think I needed to grow up a little bit. Yeah,

768
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 2: I have a better understanding of what I was here

769
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: for and what I was doing. Even though I'd started

770
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: strong with David and then you know, it kind of

771
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: segued into and then Peaks was great, but there were

772
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: long periods of time where I was like, I just

773
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: I'm not Yeah, all cylinders are not working.

774
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 1: Also, sometimes when you have an amazing, like amazing experiences

775
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: early on, then it almost feels like how am I

776
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: ever going to match that?

777
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that's true.

778
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 3: That was part of the journey.

779
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, where it's like or or sometimes I think it's

780
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: like you have an experience like the experience I had

781
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: on Ship a Baby was so like because no, there

782
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: was no expectation it was just us. It was like

783
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: our friends making a movie in one house. I was like,

784
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: this feels so intimate and fun and small. Then all

785
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: of a sudden, there's new pressure and there's all these

786
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: people to answer to and whatever, and it's like, how

787
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: do I get back the feeling of being with like

788
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 1: three of my friends in a little house. Yeah, and that, yes,

789
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: how do I get that? You know what I mean?

790
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: So it's like you're always chasing that initial high or experience.

791
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree. The other actors in She If

792
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 2: a Baby or so wonderful, the faces, the characters.

793
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: Molly Gordon is amazing. That's where I first met her

794
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: and now she's one of my best friends. Yeah, but like, yeah,

795
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: I was like, so I didn't realize how special it was,

796
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: I think until later where I was like that was crazy,

797
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 1: that was so special.

798
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's something else too, when you start like that,

799
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 2: the way I started working with really extraordinary people, kind

800
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: of going oh, so this is how it's done, and

801
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 2: not really understanding or appreciating it, you know.

802
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: And later you're like, oh my god, yeah, not everyone's

803
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 1: on this level.

804
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

805
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting thing to be able to understand,

806
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know if it's if it's true,

807
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: because I'm so focused now on on overcompensating and so

808
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: kind of in the world of younger creatives. But it

809
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: feels like there's this movement, like a a young millennial

810
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: gen Z movement in the creative world that is compelling,

811
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 2: you know, And I'm working with with creatives like Benny

812
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: and some of the cast and watching your stuff, I'm going,

813
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: there's there's there are new voices that are coming up

814
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 2: that are very exciting. Do you feel like you're part

815
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 2: of a new wave or a new.

816
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: I would say, I feel like, yeah, there's like a

817
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: I call it my grade. I'm like, we're in the

818
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,479
Speaker 1: same grade kind of okay, and I feel like our

819
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: grade is like coming or graduating or it's like we're

820
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: sort of like you look around and you're like, wait

821
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: a second. My friend as a show, like Benny is

822
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: a show, and then Owen's on an amazing show, and

823
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 1: he's also on Benny's show, Like you look around, Jordan's

824
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: on my show. He's directing his first movie, like Io

825
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: is like doing amazing movies, like huge dramatic movies, but

826
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: then still doing like funny comedy stuff. Molly's off making

827
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: a move like yeah, but I was writing something like

828
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: it's like I feel like my grade is like we

829
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 1: all came up together, and so it's cool to see

830
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: everyone like doing their thing and doing stuff together, but

831
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: doing you know, I think that's really special.

832
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: That's what I'm I'm I'm just just kind of.

833
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 3: Getting a sense of it.

834
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: I mean, as you can see, I'm kind of trying

835
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 2: to describe something.

836
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 3: I don't really know what I'm saying, but it's like.

837
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: I feel like there is a lot of creative.

838
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 3: Yeah right now.

839
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good in a certain group and all doing

840
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: interesting stuff.

841
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I think I was. I feel

842
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: like we're hopefully leaving the period of our careers where

843
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: it's like just try starting or whatever. Like I think

844
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: people are getting to do their things, you know what

845
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: I mean, instead of like trying to prove themselves to

846
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: get to do the thing. It's like we're getting to

847
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: do the thing and make the stuff we want.

848
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I do feel like, and I've talked about

849
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: this a little bit, is that there's there you try

850
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 2: a lot of different things, Like there's no thinking back

851
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: to my let's say, my generation where you kind of

852
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 2: not staying your lane necessarily.

853
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: But you're an actor.

854
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you do a little bit of something here there,

855
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: But in this generation, everything everything.

856
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a video ho, I'm a writer, I'm show running,

857
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: I'm doing you know what I mean. You get to dabble.

858
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 1: It's really fun.

859
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

860
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: The only thing that's hard about dabbling is that I'm like,

861
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: the schedule gets overwhelming, and then you want to do everything,

862
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, that part is tricky,

863
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: but I think it's it's really freeing to be able

864
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: to do different stuff. And for me that came from

865
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: a place of being like, no one's ever going to

866
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: cast me in anything. I better write something, you know

867
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: what I mean. But then you're like, oh, I love writing,

868
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 1: you know. But like you get to do multiple things

869
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: and you're doing that too. I am now yeah, podcasting, acting, like.

870
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: Wine business and everything love.

871
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that is oh my god, I need a

872
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 3: wine business.

873
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: You guys are drinking all the time. Yes, I gotta

874
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: do that.

875
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 2: Do you enjoy? Yeah?

876
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 1: Okay, not like crazy, but why I like wine?

877
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

878
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nice with food.

879
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 3: I like it with.

880
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: Food with cheese and I can't even eat cheese, but

881
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: I do with the right wine just because I get

882
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: really party. But it's like just like friends, Yeah, you

883
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: have to be around friends, or it's like you leave

884
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: in time and then you go be alone, you know,

885
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: or you go where it's summer.

886
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 2: Son and and you don't and you don't like.

887
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: Whatever, deal with it. Get it good for him.

888
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: This is so, this is our Halloween episode. But of course,

889
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 2: as you can tell, because looking at us, we are

890
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 2: crazy and drested, very strange. How did that happen?

891
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: I love it?

892
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: You started it? No, we went started.

893
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 3: I love it.

894
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: And the set is supporting our Halloween Yeah, totally sorry.

895
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: If you can't see this, it's really fun.

896
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: If you can't see this, it's on you like, turn

897
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: it on, turn it on the camera.

898
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: Come on, get busy. So I did come up with

899
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: an idea for a little segment just for some fuff.

900
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: It's called Spooky Season Showdown. But before we get to that,

901
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: let me ask you about like a favorite Halloween costume maybe,

902
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: or Halloween memories.

903
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: I have a traumatic Halloween memory.

904
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: That's because most Halloween, yeah memories are traumatic.

905
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: Got some way got my period? Got your period on

906
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: Halloween for the first time? Wow, mid trick or treat.

907
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: Mid trick or treating the worst time you missed out

908
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: on I.

909
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: Know, well, no, I kept going, kept going because Rachel

910
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: I was just like, what's happening? And I was also

911
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: sort of like, I don't my parents told me not

912
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: to go pee in someone else's house, but I know

913
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: something's going on, but I'm like too embarrassed it tell

914
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 1: the group.

915
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: It could have been like in Carry movie Carry and yeah, if.

916
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: I was carry, Oh, that would have been perfect. It

917
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: was just it was just trigger treating while perioding myself

918
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: for the first times.

919
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: My story is not nearly as interesting as that my

920
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 2: best costume. I had a couple that I thought were

921
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 2: pretty good. I like to make my make out up

922
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: and make my own thing. I don't like the sort

923
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: of store about stuff. So I had one year I

924
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: was the unfortunate somolier thinking in the wine world, so

925
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: I had a broken bottle on my head, lash of

926
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 2: glasses blood. And then another year I was the unfortunate golfer.

927
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: I grew up playing golf. I had I had a

928
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: golf ball sort of stuck to my forehead, and I

929
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: had modeling wax. You know, I do a little have

930
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: a little skill with with doing special effect stuff, and

931
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 2: I made it like it was embedded in my skull.

932
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: And those were good because they were very simple. But yeah,

933
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 2: you know, it's like you want to have something that's

934
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: like really when you see you're like you neque, I

935
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: get it.

936
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, unique, but not so you're not

937
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: standing there explaining it for forty minutes and they're like.

938
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, not so obscure that it's like the golf ball.

939
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 1: That rolled under the whatever in that golf movie. And see,

940
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: I don't even know what I'm saying. I was oat

941
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: milk one yere and that was I was like sexy

942
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: oat mill. That was simple. I don't ever really go

943
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: crazy like last year.

944
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 2: Was a nurse, right, but like a tag, I've.

945
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: Been like a lion. I'm just I'm just trying to

946
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: be Usually I find a piece of clothing that I

947
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: want to wear and then I build around that. I'm

948
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: like red bra top, I'm a devil. I take it

949
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: from there.

950
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 4: Now.

951
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: That's kind of how kind of way you build a character.

952
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 2: Is it similar? No where did that start?

953
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: That kind of starts from hopefully the script, but the oh,

954
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: like building an idea.

955
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, either the idea, or you read something a character like, oh,

956
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: I'm beginning to feel this character, this thing.

957
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: That's like something that you want to I guess it's

958
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: kind of similar to something you want to wear, something

959
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: you want to do, Yeah, you want to walk? Yeah,

960
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: you just find something that's like exciting and then from.

961
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: There yeah yeah, does it come from the read just like, oh,

962
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 2: I start to feel a certain way.

963
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: I think you start to feel a certain way I do, Yeah,

964
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: you do?

965
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 4: I do?

966
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I sort of triggers something I don't

967
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 2: even know where it starts, and it just starts to

968
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: it starts to grow up, bubbles up.

969
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 3: It's fantastic.

970
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: The red bra bubble up. That's perfect. So anyway, we're

971
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna come. When we come back, we're gonna

972
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 2: have this cool segment. It's called Spooky Season Showdown. You

973
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: and are going to take turns reading lines from iconic

974
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: Halloween characters. Try and guess which film it comes from.

975
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: This is what I do.

976
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 2: So when we come back, we're going to get into it. Okay,

977
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: we're back, Rachel, so have you here here?

978
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: This is so good.

979
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: I'm having am so glad to hear it, and I

980
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: love how spooky we're getting. We're getting spooky.

981
00:44:58,719 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 4: My hat.

982
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: Keep changing here, I don't know what's happening. Okay, this

983
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: is the spooky season showdown I talked about. Now that

984
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: we're back from our break, tell the people what you're wearing.

985
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: So I'm wearing a fetching number. I'm wearing satin blue,

986
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 2: baby blue, and there is a wig involved. It's my aunt, Sandy.

987
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: Head.

988
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. And now I have on my head a hat.

989
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, appointed appointed hat.

990
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 3: I guess commonly referred to as a witch's hat.

991
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: They're just misunderstood, but it feels good. Yeah. I just

992
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 1: kept my costume from before because I love it. Yeah.

993
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: No, it's perfect and it suits you. Princess, Yeah, a princess. Okay,

994
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: So these are these are iconic lines from from scary movies,

995
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: horror movies, and we're gonna try and guess the movie

996
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 2: and possibly who may.

997
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: Have said it.

998
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. So shall I go first?

999
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1000
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: I want to go first.

1001
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 2: I smell a child. I smell a chi. I just

1002
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: want to keep saying the lights. I smell a child.

1003
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 2: Take two, Take three, Okay, this is a Michael Myers

1004
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: Halloween b beetlejuice see Mary Sanderson Pocus Pocus Mary. I know.

1005
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: I was like, that's that's a that's a girl, that's

1006
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: a diva exactly.

1007
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, the whole thing.

1008
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: That was a fabulous raading.

1009
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you. I feel like it's

1010
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: an audition maybe for your next book. Next thing.

1011
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, boom book boom, very nice.

1012
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: Should I go? Do we go every other?

1013
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: Every other? Yea?

1014
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: Now I want to do the voice, but I'm not

1015
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 1: really good at A person should always choose a costume

1016
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: which is in direct contrast to her own personality. A. Okay, Lucy,

1017
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: it's The Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown, b Wednesday Adams, The

1018
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: Adams Family, or see Lydia Deets beetlejuice.

1019
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 2: This is so funny because I feel like it's like,

1020
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 2: and the winner is. I feel like we're reading an envelope.

1021
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: I know that's Lucy.

1022
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: That's Lucy definitely.

1023
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 2: Yeah you said it, and I was like, I know

1024
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,919
Speaker 2: this because The Great Pumpkin Charlie Byn was one of

1025
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: my favorite, if not.

1026
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 3: My last, favorite movie.

1027
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 2: I wish I could remember how this voice sounded. But

1028
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: I will try something. I excel without even trying with

1029
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 2: the slightest little effort of my ghost like charms. A.

1030
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: Jack Skellington The Night maybefore Christmas, Casper from Casper, Coraline

1031
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 2: from Coraline.

1032
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: I want to say, Jack Skelling.

1033
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: You're correct, you are correct.

1034
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: I was giving Jack Skelling to me.

1035
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: I was trying to make myself and more skeletony.

1036
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: Yes, you nailed it. He has sort of like the coal.

1037
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: You nail that.

1038
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 4: Yay.

1039
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 3: I'm here to help, Okay, Okay.

1040
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: I'm just like any modern woman trying to have it all,

1041
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: loving husband, a family. It's just I wish I had

1042
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: more time to seek out the dark forces and join

1043
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: their hellish crusade. Sally the Nightmare before Christmas. Be more

1044
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: to Adams, the Adams Family see grand Hi Witches the Witches.

1045
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: Oh God, I want to say more tissue because I

1046
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 2: just happened to love that.

1047
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 3: Is that right?

1048
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: That's right?

1049
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 2: Yes, you're read. Was brilliant. I got Angelica Houston right

1050
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: out of the boom. Okay, here we go. Death has

1051
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: come to your little town, Sheriff. Now you can either

1052
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: ignore it you can help me stop it. A Sydney

1053
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: Prescott scream B Loomis Halloween see Nancy Thompson A nightmare

1054
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: on Elm Street. I want to say a, but if

1055
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: you had to choose another one.

1056
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: He leads the witness.

1057
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: Yes, you are right.

1058
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: I wanted to say a, but I didn't, and so why,

1059
00:48:55,719 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: which is why I said be me. This one is

1060
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: like fun, I don't I think I saw this a

1061
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: really long time ago. But since when is being a

1062
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: slut a crime in this family? Means my mom a

1063
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: Jillian Owens practical magic, b aunt Fran practical magic, or

1064
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: c Sally Owens practical magic?

1065
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 2: So we know the movies smoke, Holy freaking practical magic.

1066
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: Is practical magic. It's correct. So you got that part right.

1067
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 2: Okay, you said aunt Fran was one, right. I don't

1068
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: think it's ant Fan.

1069
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: It's Gillian Sally or aunt Fran.

1070
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 2: It's Sandra saying it.

1071
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 4: Yeah you're right, yeah, yeah, not a.

1072
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 2: Reflection of her. I just feel like that she's a

1073
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 2: tried to deliver.

1074
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 3: Yeah you did good, tough, exactly, well done.

1075
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks for having it out.

1076
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: Fun, I really did it.

1077
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 3: This is good.

1078
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if we solved the question

1079
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 2: what are we even doing? But we had a good

1080
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: time doing it.

1081
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: We had a five of time doing it.

1082
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 3: You're so wonderful.

1083
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: You're wonderful.

1084
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 2: I'm excited for what's coming for you, the future. I

1085
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 2: want to see the stuff you're doing so far is

1086
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 2: so great. I'm really and hopefully it's going to continue. No, No,

1087
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 2: you're you have something to.

1088
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 3: Say, which I'm really excited about.

1089
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 2: So we.

1090
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 4: Do.

1091
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 2: What Are We Even Doing is a production of iHeartMedia

1092
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: and the Elvis Duran podcast Network, hosted by me Kyle

1093
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: McLachlin and created and produced by Full Picture Productions Yay,

1094
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:39,040
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1095
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,200
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Speaker 2: or anywhere you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Exclamation points