WEBVTT - Tight End Position Outlook & Which Undrafted Players Could Make the Roster | Bucs Insider 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:08.440 Welcome in to Buccaneers Insider Live, presented by Miller. Like 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:11.120 Casey Phillips, here was senior writer and editor Scott Smith. 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:13.720 We are back after a little break every time this year, 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:15.920 at this time of year, the office is closed, there's 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:17.960 not a lot going on, but now we are officially 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:20.680 close enough to training camp that we feel like we 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:22.440 have this to talk about During that week, were you 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:24.720 trying not to think about the fact that when you 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:26.520 got back, training camp will be right around the corner 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:29.600 a little bit, it's always a little bit like already 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:32.080 almost over. But then it's like, but it's exciting that 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:33.640 the whole season is in front of you. And I 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:35.839 think training camp is such a fun time, especially for 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:38.559 our show, talking about all the different position battles and 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:40.479 what the roster is gonna look like. It's it's a 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:42.320 very fun time to sort of speculate about that and 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:45.080 think about what we're excited to watch at training camp. 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:47.400 And so I know that is the point of training 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:49.239 camp in so many ways, is to figure out when 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:51.280 you have ninety how you get down to fifty three 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:53.880 and you get to watch these maybe some undrafted guys 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:56.160 that could sneak in there or different draft picks and 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:58.040 what it could look like. So for you, what are 0:00:58.080 --> 0:00:59.520 the biggest things that you feel like you're going to 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:03.360 be watching as it goes from There was really two 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:07.240 intertwined major goals of training camp, and you just named 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:09.440 one of them. Take your ninety people that you take 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:12.160 into on your roster into camp and fashion the best 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.320 possible fifty three man regular season roster. And then at 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:17.240 the same time, you're trying to get your playbooks installed 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:19.399 so you're ready for the Dallas Cowboys and the teams 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:21.440 that come after. But first things you have to do 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.080 is you have to get from fifty three and um, 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.840 here's an here's a possible way that that could be 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:28.760 laid out, and it might not be exactly this. I 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.200 do believe the Buccaneers go into camp with a goal 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:33.920 of how many they want in each position, but sometimes 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:35.360 you have to tweak it here and they're depending on 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:37.480 what you have and what you need in players being injury. 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:40.640 You might keep nine offensive linemen or ten defensive backs, 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:42.600 or you may have to keep an extra receiver because 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:45.040 Chris Godwin isn't quite ready to go, and so you 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:46.920 might lose a running back tighten But this is a 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:50.520 pretty typical um layout of of how you might get 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.360 to fifty three by position um. And so you can 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:55.880 see by looking at that where the Buccaneers have the 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:58.840 least and the most trim. I mean, there's thirteen wide receivers. 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.720 Now a lot of those guys are undrafted. You know, 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.040 there's four or five undrafted free agents, and not to 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.520 the mean those guys, those undrafted free agents make it 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:09.200 almost every year, but not all of them. Right, So 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:11.200 and then look at all You've got sixte dbs, you 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:12.960 might keep nine, you might keep tents. So there's some 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:14.919 things to figure out there. But then at a place 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:18.799 like tight end, you've only got six at the moment, 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:22.280 and you're probably keeping four, could be five, could be three. 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:26.280 So yeah, yeah, inside Liebracker exact, there's like no fat 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.760 to trim off that spot, particularly because when you look 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.400 at it, it's Devin White, Lavante, David, your obvious starters, 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.400 and then your two draft picks from last year, kJ Britten, 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:36.760 Grant Stewart, and then the only other two are a 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:40.640 pair of undrafted free free agents. So you know that 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:42.359 that's a spot where if you're in that group, you're 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:44.880 feeling pretty good probably, so This just gives you an 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:46.960 idea of where the competition is probably gonna be the 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:49.000 most heated. Yeah, that's going to be interesting. And so 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.720 now one of those spots you mentioned tight end, and 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:53.640 we know that's been very talked about, of course because 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:56.280 of Gronk and retirement and then people hoping he was 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:58.919 just kidding and then him doing another interview that made 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:00.920 it sound like he wasn't just kidding, and now you 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:02.799 never know, we're just we're always gonna What was that 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:04.320 they said about Brady, We're going to leave the light 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:06.360 on for you, having I imagine that would be the 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:08.760 case the door unlocked, leave the door unlocked for Gronk. 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:11.400 But though he could probably get in even if that's true, 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:13.200 that's true, Gronk feels like he can show up no 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.200 matter what. So now, looking at that, what do you 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.839 think about the tight end position? If we just let's 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:21.480 go with the fact that Gronk doesn't come back, yeah, 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:23.240 I mean, it looked like he wasn't having any fun 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:25.800 at all. Why would he possibly stay retired? So looking 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:27.960 at the fact that he's probably not coming back, now, 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:30.960 what does that mean for this position? Who's on the roster? 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.400 Do you think they add someone from outside of it. 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:34.800 What do you think that position group is going to 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:36.360 look like. Well, I've been calling it the ninety man 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:38.560 roster because that's what you take to camp, but at 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.320 the moment, that's only eighty nine after they are released 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.200 some brandly opinion. So, um, there is a spot open, 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:47.440 and you don't leave a spot open. They will sign somebody. 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:49.200 It could be another arm draft of fra Age, you 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:51.600 could be anybody, but they will sign somebody. They could 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:54.000 use that spot to bring in another tight end. Last 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:55.960 year we took seven tight ends in training camp. This 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:59.560 year we only had four, I mean six. Um, so 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:01.680 they could sign a veteran free agent because right now 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.000 you have cam Brad, who's great, we love him, He's 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.440 got like two and thirty five career catches, and then 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.440 you've got five other guys who have combined for one 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:11.080 career catch. So you may love Kadot and you may 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:12.920 love co Keith. He may love these guys, but they're 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.400 they're not proven. So the Bucks could go, let's get 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:18.679 approven option in here and see how what works out best. 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.120 And I was just looking at the available tight ends 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:24.160 that are out there that names you would recognize and 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:25.560 this is what he came up with is probably the 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:29.359 five most recognizable names that remain unsigned. Um. What jumps 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.839 out at me here is that most of these guys 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:34.360 are pretty up there. You know, Jared Cook has had 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:37.560 a brilli productive career and he even had four yards 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:39.479 last year, so he's the most productive of the group 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.800 from last year. But he's also thirty five and he's 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.200 basically been mostly a pass catcher, not really much of 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:48.200 a blocker. The youngest got on the list is Blake Jarwin. 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:50.520 Didn't have a lot of production last year because the 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:53.240 Cowboys kind of have focused on Dalton Schultz, but he 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.920 did a few years ago have a couple productive years, 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.600 so maybe that's an option. Eric Ibran and Kyle Rudolph 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:02.440 probably better blockers then Jared Cook, So maybe you're looking 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:04.160 more in that direction. And I don't know if the 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:05.760 Bucks are looking at any of these guys, but these 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.520 are the most prominent names out there, and they they 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:11.760 all have something to offer, but they all have Well, 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:14.320 maybe he's a little bit you know, he's a little 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.760 bit up there, or maybe he's not a great blocker, 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:20.200 or maybe he hasn't had unproduction lately. So um, you know, 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:22.120 you just have to judge, is does this guy have 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:24.800 something that he can offer the team? Is there more 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.320 possibly on the bone there than what they showed last year? 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.200 Do you see pass catching or blocking as being the priory? 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.440 Because obviously, if somebody is still an unsigned free agent, 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:36.440 the odds are they're not incredible at both or they 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:40.080 wouldn't be unsigned. So what would you say if someone 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:41.760 is better at one the other, which one do you 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:43.880 think the Bucks need more of? Right? I think ideally 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:46.680 the Bucks would like to find a tight in who 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.280 they know can block well and then maybe add something 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.920 in the passing game, because cam Braid is your number 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.039 one tied in at the moment, and he's had a 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:57.159 great career and he's a good blocker, but he's that's 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:59.760 not been the main thing, right His main thing is 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.719 as catching. He's especially good in the red zone. Um. 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.400 You know, he's good at moving the chains, he's reliable, 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:08.720 he's got great hands. Uh. You know, we love a 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.240 lot about cam Bride, but he's had to learn how 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:13.880 to block during his NFL career, right, he didn't come 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:16.680 in as a blocking tight end. Uh so, um, I 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:19.200 think you would want to pair him with a guy 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:21.560 that was a good blocker, like if you're doing two 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.200 tight insets, uh, and then and the guy that could 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:28.120 they could give you blocking but also perhaps be a 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:29.600 little bit of a threat in the past game. And 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:31.599 that could be kay Doton. It could be and and 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.600 that's why the Bucks drafted him in the fourth round 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:35.400 and and probably felt like they got a little bit 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:37.279 of a steel. I know some draft analysts have said 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.039 that was a little bit of a steel because due 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.960 a terrible quarterback play at Washington last year and his 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:45.200 own injuries, his last year wasn't as productive as the 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.080 year before when he probably would have gone a little 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:48.680 higher in the draft. So maybe the Buck's got a 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:50.760 steel and he's a potential two way tight end, but 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:54.200 again it's not proven. Plus he hasn't practiced yet due 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:57.200 to coming back from an injury, so it would maybe 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.880 be nice to have a veteran option in that same 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.679 mold and then just see which one works out best. Okay. 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:04.239 And then as we talk about some of the different 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:06.839 positions we mentioned tight end and some areas that you 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:09.040 think guys can need to either step up or what 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:10.840 it looks like now as you trim to your fifty 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.680 three UM we know that JPP no longer part of 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.080 the team, and so there are definitely some snaps up 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.640 for grabs in that position room. So how do you 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:21.200 see that group shaking out in terms of the number 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:22.920 of people that make the roster, who's going to be 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:25.920 stepping into the most production. Do you feel like there's 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:27.560 anything that still needs to be added there? You know, 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:29.000 last year we got a little bit of a break 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.200 from this kind of conversation because the Bucks, famously after 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.960 winning the Super Bowl, brought everybody really was not great 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:35.800 for our show. In the off season, we were like, well, 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.600 it's gonna look like it number last year team. That's 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.680 what you got. So generally, camps at every team every 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.920 year had some battles like at right guard for the 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.400 Bucks this year, and I mean left guard, and some 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.600 places where you're expecting a younger guy to step up 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:52.400 for a departed veteran, And in this case, I think 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:55.120 the most prominent of those is Joe try On Showinka, 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.760 the first round pick from two thousand twenty one, who 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.280 is probably going to step in as the other outside 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:04.760 linebacker for Jason Pierre Paul opposite Shack Barrett. Now. Last year, 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:06.680 as has been the story that has all the coaches 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.760 have been telling about Joe from his last year is 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.040 that they really asked him to play a lot of 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.360 different positions. They actually play a lot of different roles, 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:16.040 and it was tough. It was tough for rookie. It's 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:18.320 tough for Rickie to learn and adapt at one spot 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:20.680 and to have to play inside and outside and drop 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.320 off the ball sometimes. That was a lot on his 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:25.880 plate and he produced pretty well, but maybe not as 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.680 much as you're hoping for this year. Now, presumably he's 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:31.239 going to get a shot to stick and to focus 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.880 at one of the outside linebacker positions, being edge rusher, 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:36.280 and the Buccaneers are hoping he'll blossom in that. And 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:40.920 Shack Barrett during the off season during minicamp was glowing 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:44.480 about Joe and saying he thinks he's capable of getting 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.120 double dug sacks this season, which would be cool because 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:50.240 we know Shaq Barrett is a very good shot at 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.520 kidd right. He's done it. He's done it two out 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.640 of the three years that he's been with the team 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.400 and just missed it the other year, so you would 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:59.600 not be surprised at all. Shack Barrett got inside right 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:03.240 Joe also did that would be too multi multi. Yeah, 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:05.080 and the Bucks have only had that twice in their 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:09.120 whole history, with Sap and Cheetyana too and two thousand 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:11.679 with Sap and Marcus Jones. But it's really actually not 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:15.239 all that uncommon. It's happened for at least two teams 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:18.280 every year for the fast past nineteen years. I know, 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.439 I was shocked when I looked at it. I started, 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.280 I'm gonna go to this graphic first, and I'll get 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.160 back to that. But this is a list of all 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.200 the players in team history who have at least twenty sacks, 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:28.920 because I didn't want to include maybe some guy who 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.440 had one sack in one game or something. Uh. Shack 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:33.760 has the highest rate of sacks per game at point 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.400 eight to uh even a little bit more than Simeon Rice, 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.640 who has the most decorated pass rusher, him and Lever 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.800 semon A those decorated pass rushers in team history. And 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:44.560 Shaquille Barrett has more sex per game than than all 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:47.240 of them, And if you multiply that out for seventeen games, 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:49.800 it's close to fourteen sacks. So he's obviously a very 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:52.000 good bet to be good ten. Now getting back to 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.600 what I was saying before, Um, yeah, two teams like 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:57.679 last year, I think it was Pittsburgh in Arizona had 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:00.320 at least two guys that had doubleged sex and at 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.280 least two teams have had that for nineteen straight years. 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:05.320 I started looking it up to see how common it was. 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:07.000 I couldn't believe. I had to keep going. It took 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:08.240 me in like half an hour. It looked at this 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.719 not so interesting. I would have not thought that. It 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.120 also shows how important it is. Yeah, And I think 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:15.600 what it really shows is that when you have two 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.480 good or more than two good edge rushers, they really 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:20.520 help each other. Yeah, because you can't just say we're 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.600 gonna double team this guy, right, So somebody's always getting 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:25.640 a better opportunity when you have a real threat on 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.120 both sides. And now I think that especially how strongly 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:31.360 the Bucks feel about their interior alignment, could also help 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:33.240 with that. As you look at what they're gonna have 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.040 to do about a team Hicks and Vita Via and 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.520 then hopefully Logan Hall as well. But that's going to 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.480 also help them. Again, you have two incredible ede dressers 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:42.600 and guys like that in the middle. I would not 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.520 want to be in an offensive. Yeah, and and then 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:47.600 don't don't even sleep on Devin White, who's a great 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.440 blitz Glenbecker who had nine sacks two seasons ago. Yeah, 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.240 that's going to be incredible. All right, Well, we're gonna 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.160 look at us a few of the questions we have here. 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:58.640 Um we have let's see, Gerald wanted to know which 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:04.200 receivers do you see us keeping? Okay, yeah, you know what, 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.560 this is actually the probably the most discussed topic at 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:11.480 every single training camp because, like we showed before, there's 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:13.600 always a ton of them because there's just they just 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:15.840 have so many reps and they're running hard on every place, 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:18.200 so you need you need a ton of receivers. So 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:20.960 I think we saw we had thirteen. A common total 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:24.679 is six. Um, so you know every year and then 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:27.280 during camp, one guy will look great for a week 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.640 and one guy. It's hard to sustain though, So sometimes 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:31.400 you're really excited about something rookie and then by the 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.640 end of virus you're like, well, yeah, I would say, obviously, 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.560 I would think there's a decent chance to keep my captains, right, 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:40.000 that feels I mean, I know you're going out on 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:41.800 a limb here, but yeah, that feels like a good idea. 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:43.720 I'm gonna play the odds on Chris Godwin and say 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.400 he's not ready for the start of the season. Quite ready, 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.000 but he's not so far away that they want to 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:50.800 put him on PUP. And I thought you were about 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:52.920 to say that he wasn't going to be on the team, 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:56.120 and I was like no, I was like, I think 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.400 the big contract we gave them press your opinion on 0:11:58.440 --> 0:11:59.959 these things. But I was going to say something yes, 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:03.800 so um, I would guess that he's not gonna they 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:05.720 don't think he's gonna miss the first six games. I 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:07.640 hope that's the case, so he won't be on PUP. 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:09.560 So I'm playing the eyes in the middle there, which 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.040 means he has a roster spot. And then I think 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.680 the bugge is probably and I'm keeping seven because he's 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:17.640 not ready to play. Russell Gage. I think it's pretty 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.200 much a lock. So then then let's have just lay 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.080 out what we're talking about here. We're talking about Scotty Miller, 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:26.640 We're talking from Jalen Darden, We're talking Brashad Perryman, Tyler Johnson, 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.920 UH rookie Devin Tompkins had a nice camp. I'm almost 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:35.319 certain I'm forgetting somebody right now. Maybe not. Um, So 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:38.520 we got the three I already said, and then all 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:42.480 those guys, I guess keep four more Tyler Scottie. I 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.280 think Jalen probably ends up winning the kick return job again, 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:47.200 so he's there for that reason. So that's six. And 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:51.160 then one other from among Brashad Perryman, Devin Tompkins. I 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.480 just feel like I'm forgetting somebody right now, but I 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:56.920 hope not. I think, Yeah, that seems like a reasonable group. Okay, 0:12:56.960 --> 0:13:01.080 are this is sort of related? Um for some reason. 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:02.480 I don't think the name is popping up, but it 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:06.640 says from the undrafted Ricky Wide receivers and dbs, who 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:08.960 do you think has the best chance of making the roster? Yeah? Well, 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:10.720 I mean the best evidence that we have on the 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:15.120 receivers is that Coach Bowls when asked about, you know, 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:17.880 some young guys that had stood out, and generally with 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:22.000 questions like that, he answers more broadly, like a lot 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:23.760 of guys did well, right, because if you point out 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:25.320 one guy, then you're not pointing out of the guys. 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:28.240 And sometimes you don't even want people to know someone's 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:30.000 doing really well. You want to stash him on your 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:32.640 practice squad, or you're wanting to the guys the guys 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.680 that you don't want people talking about, aren't the guys 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:36.959 you know we're going to make the team, or the 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:38.560 guys that you're pretty sure aren't gonna make the teams, 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:40.319 the guys in the bubble you don't want people finding 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:43.680 out about them. But coach specifically brought up the young 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:48.760 undrafted rickie out of Utah or Utah State Devin Tompkins, 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:52.360 who had just enormous numbers last year, as did a 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:54.559 bunch of our undrafted free agent right receivers, and he 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:58.000 apparently really impressed during O t s and minicamp, and 0:13:58.000 --> 0:13:59.520 coach says he was very excited to see what he 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:03.720 does in training camp when the pad's gone. So on 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:05.480 the other side, I think you'd have to go with 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:09.440 the North Carolina cornerback Tyler Mingmichael because of all the 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.560 undrafted free agents at the buck and your signed and 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.600 we don't really get into numbers of salaries very much. 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:16.440 That's kind of almost like a team policy, like we 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:18.960 don't talk about guys salaries. Let's say they got a 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:20.920 big contract, like Chris Godwin or something like that. But 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:25.080 we do know that of all the undrafted Brookies whom 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:28.240 you can give any amount of signing bonus that you 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:31.400 want to, essentially that he got by far the highest 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.520 signing bonus, which is guaranteed money, because you've already given 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:36.760 it to him, right, So he got by far the 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:38.920 most guaranteed money of any of the guys at the 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:40.560 Buck in your sign which means he was a very 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:44.160 coveted guy, and among not just Bucks but other teams. 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.480 So this is a guy that obviously comes in with, 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:50.920 you know, a lot of expectations, not necessarily to make 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:52.560 the team, but he would probably have the best chance, 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:55.840 I would think contract stuff. James had asked how much 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:57.720 cap space is the team sitting on the last time 0:14:57.760 --> 0:14:59.720 I looked at was about eleven or twelve million. It 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:01.760 will probably cost you know, a couple to get our 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:06.080 last two uh drafting guys under contract. But it's somewhere 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.160 around that eleven or twelve million, which is not a 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.000 terrible number. I think I remember seeing it was right 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:12.000 about the middle of the pack like in the league 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:15.080 in terms of cap space. And you think about that, 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:16.400 you go, okay, well, what are we going to spend 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.440 that on? Before the season starts and maybe that happen. 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.600 We talked about maybe signing it tied end. But also 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:22.440 it's not the end of the world to go into 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:25.600 the season with a little cap space left over. A 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:27.800 because if you're in the thick of it and you 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.400 need to make a trade, you have some cap space 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:32.840 to work with. And b if you if you don't 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:34.480 spend the cap space, you can roll it over to 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:36.720 the next year, so you don't have to rush out 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:38.400 and make sure that you use every penny of your 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.560 cap space. All Right, we'll close with this. Re Que said, 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:44.560 who is projected to start opposite Winfield Jr. That's a 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:48.080 very good question, and I think the answer isn't going 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.720 to be just one name. Um, you could make it 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:54.680 simple and say Antoine Winfield is probably the starting free 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.760 safety either a little bit interchangeable in this defense and 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:01.680 in most defenses nowadays. But I think when Winfield would 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:04.880 be a great strong safety, but his his awareness and 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:07.200 the way he cleans up plays as a free safety 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:10.600 are just too important to move him. So Jordan Whitehead 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.360 was basically more of the same strong safety has departed, 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:16.120 so you look at who's more of a Jordan white 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:19.520 antipe player. It's definitely so it could be Kean O'Neil, right, 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:22.800 because he's more as a linebacker at the point that 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:25.240 he's a hitter and he's good in the box. But 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:28.440 Mike Edwards is obviously such a good ball hawk, and 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:34.400 coaches have said this offseason that they became more um, 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:36.880 what's the word I'm looking for, the more confident in 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.320 his open field tackling, which may have been a bit 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:41.000 of an issue for him earlier in his career, but 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.200 as he gets better at that, then you check it 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:44.760 off and you're like, you don't worry about him putting. 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.360 As you've seen he's he often switched with Jordan Whitehead 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:50.960 and came in in more obvious passing time. Can you 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:54.320 leave him in for every down even expected running downs? 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:56.920 So if you just want to make it a one 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:59.400 to one competition, it would probably be Kean O'Neil and 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:01.920 Mike Edward. But what I think will probably more likely 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:03.800 happen is that the Buccaneers will have a variety of 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:07.439 packages using the versatility of guys like Mike Edwards and 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.560 Logan Ryan, and you have Cannon Neil and I think 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:12.720 you're just going to see different sub packages interesting, so 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:14.960 it's not maybe just one answer to this question. Okay, 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:16.600 well that's gonna do it for us with Buccaneers inside 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:18.520 our Live presented by Miller Lte. 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