WEBVTT - Jada Pinkett Smith Comes to the Virtual Red Table

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<v Speaker 1>In this episode, we briefly discussed suicide. If you or

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<v Speaker 1>it loved one need help, please call the National Suicide

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<v Speaker 1>Prevention Lifeline at nine eight. Hey y'all, Hey, what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome to Let's Red Table Bat. I'm Tracy t

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<v Speaker 1>Row and I'll call Rap Pressley and do we have

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing episode plan for you today or what Tracy,

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<v Speaker 1>we truly do? Because today we are recapping the Different

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<v Speaker 1>World Reunion special and we're not doing it alone. We

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<v Speaker 1>have two guests coming to the Virtual Red Table today.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them is a fellow Red Table Talk o

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<v Speaker 1>G and the other is none other than Red Table

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<v Speaker 1>Talk host Jada Pinkett Smith. Yes, this has been a

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<v Speaker 1>long time coming, and what a perfect episode to have

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<v Speaker 1>Jada on. So we have more questions about a Different

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<v Speaker 1>World and we have some questions straight from the community

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<v Speaker 1>for Jada, So stay tuned for all of the answers.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's welcome our first guest, Dr Danita Crawford. Danita is

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<v Speaker 1>a fellow Red Table Talk o G and co organizer

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<v Speaker 1>of the Red Table Talk Discussions Facebook group. Like the

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<v Speaker 1>Characters in a Different World, Danita attendant an hbc U

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<v Speaker 1>and that experience forever impacted her life. She is here

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<v Speaker 1>to tell us all about it today. Welcome, Dr Danita,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for having me. I'm really excited to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this. All right, We're happy to have you here.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we reveal our wait what moments, we're gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break and we'll be right. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>part of the show where we reveal which moments made

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<v Speaker 1>us pause, rewind, and listen again. This week it's all

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<v Speaker 1>about the Different World Reunion. Wait what? Wait? What? Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, I'm gonna kicking off Debbie revealing what Jada

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<v Speaker 1>said to her the first time they met, which was

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the next Debbie Allen and she already had all

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<v Speaker 1>that and I said, wow, you are wonderful. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the next Debbie Aland I'm like and I loved her

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<v Speaker 1>from her now. So can y'all imagine a seventeen year

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<v Speaker 1>old Jada Pinkett saying this That was bold. I totally

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<v Speaker 1>see it. It was bold. Dr, don't need to I

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<v Speaker 1>agree it was bold. And I see little feisty Jada

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<v Speaker 1>Pinkett before she was Jada Pinkett Smith. I see her

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<v Speaker 1>playing this day, going in there saying that just as

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<v Speaker 1>clear yeah, but I see that's how you get places.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be very bright, you have to claim it.

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<v Speaker 1>So Debbie Allen had to wait what? But then she

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hold on here, now, let's bring her fourth.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, let me meet this girl. Who meet her?

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<v Speaker 1>Because she just feels like she's gonna be next me.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see. Was definitely a wait what. Another way what

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<v Speaker 1>moment was when Don Lewis reflected on how when she

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<v Speaker 1>was on the show, she couldn't wait to tell the

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<v Speaker 1>guest stars how inspirational they had been for her. Now

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<v Speaker 1>people are sharing with had Don and others on the

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<v Speaker 1>Different World how they're an inspiration. I couldn't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>tell miss Horn how inspirational she was and how what

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<v Speaker 1>she meant to me. So I walked over her and

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<v Speaker 1>she held my face in her hands and said you

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<v Speaker 1>on that show, aren't you? And I said yeah. She says,

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<v Speaker 1>your name is Dawn. You good at Jelisa. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all are doing such a good job. Y'all keep that up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so proud of you. And I'm thinking to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>I was waiting to tell you how you inspired me

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<v Speaker 1>and so many others, but it flips me to now

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<v Speaker 1>who we have become two people who walk up to

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<v Speaker 1>us and say, you don't know how you inspired me,

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<v Speaker 1>how you changed my life. Okay, so now, Dr Danita,

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<v Speaker 1>I know how you feel about a different work. How

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<v Speaker 1>have the cast and crew of a Different World inspired you?

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<v Speaker 1>And they've inspired me in many ways throughout my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we've discussed before, I did attend the nhbc U,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was all because of a Different World. I

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<v Speaker 1>used to watch that show when I was younger, I

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<v Speaker 1>used to watch while I was in college. It actually

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<v Speaker 1>was my first impression of what and all black environment

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<v Speaker 1>would be. I used to live in an all Hispanic environment,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I moved to a predominantly white community, and

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<v Speaker 1>then after that in a Different World presented another concept

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<v Speaker 1>to me. While my family was very much black, I

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<v Speaker 1>had never lived in a community like that. So it

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<v Speaker 1>just triggered something in me to say, like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to live in that kind of environment.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to be able to see how it

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<v Speaker 1>feels to live among my people. And my mom was

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<v Speaker 1>a little hesitant, but I kind of convinced her. When

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<v Speaker 1>I got a scholarship, I convinced her to let me

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<v Speaker 1>go and it was like mind blowing, how amazing my

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<v Speaker 1>experience was. It was very similar to a different world

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<v Speaker 1>and many SMEs. Wow. Okay, so now give us one

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<v Speaker 1>little snippet. How was it similar to your HBC you

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<v Speaker 1>experienced compared to Hillman. Okay, let's think of some of

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<v Speaker 1>the fun parts. I would say joining a sorority. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a part of Data Publate a sorority incorporated, and my

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<v Speaker 1>membership intake was very similar to when Whitley and Kim

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<v Speaker 1>were joining their organization and Ron was joining his organization.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you just learned and you grow with the sisterhood.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think I would have even thought to

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<v Speaker 1>join an organization had I not seen that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had this perception of what it was supposed to be like.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a very similar presentation to what the show did.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just all in. I was just ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to participate in everything the college had to offer.

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<v Speaker 1>I just knew that watching the show, that oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what they did in regards to housing, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what they did in regards to activities. They participated in

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of activities. I'm going to partist of fate.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to immerse myself into this entire community so

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<v Speaker 1>that I can get as much as I can out

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<v Speaker 1>of this. What do you think the show did for

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<v Speaker 1>black people in America? It showed them a different way

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<v Speaker 1>of life. It was Oh, wait, I grew up with

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<v Speaker 1>Rudy in college? Wait do I do I have to

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<v Speaker 1>go to college? Wait? What can I do in college? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>My guards is so fun? And then you see Denise's

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<v Speaker 1>challenges and how she's not managing her finance as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just one of those people that I see

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<v Speaker 1>something on TV and I learned from other people, and

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<v Speaker 1>I seen how she was just like, oh, she was

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<v Speaker 1>just messing up everywhere she could turn. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not applying for credit cards because that's gonna mess

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<v Speaker 1>up my finances, much like the person who was like

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<v Speaker 1>this happened in that show. So guess what I learned

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<v Speaker 1>from that mistake? So I'm not You didn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>experience it yourself, So you really allowed the show to

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<v Speaker 1>help give you some direction and guidance on how you

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<v Speaker 1>could navigate through your own journey and what was maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not a standard that you would transition from high school

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<v Speaker 1>to college and made it become like a natural progression

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Exactly. I grew up in the era of

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<v Speaker 1>the after school specials, where you know, they said, don't

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<v Speaker 1>do drugs, and guess what, I'm not doing drugs. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Friday Boy. Yeah, that's so good. That's a that's

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<v Speaker 1>a major weight. What that was a weight? What this

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<v Speaker 1>changed my life? Yes, yes I did. I would not

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<v Speaker 1>have even known about HBCUs I promised you. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>major Wait, what's right? You know? I love that for you,

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<v Speaker 1>And like, I think, we all just have our history

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<v Speaker 1>with a different world, and I remember the beginning, and

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<v Speaker 1>I also remember, like the later season when the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>characters kind of transitioned into the older the senior students

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<v Speaker 1>of course, and then they've graduated and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So all the actors sharing their favorite moments and episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>what is your favorite moment or episode from a different world?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's cliche because we all have that same

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<v Speaker 1>favorite moment where doing runs after that? Please man it,

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<v Speaker 1>please please back number one favorite. And then I do

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<v Speaker 1>like the one where Kim she had to confront some

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<v Speaker 1>issues she had with her complexion. You teared up thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about how much people of color have to go through

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<v Speaker 1>especially when even just the little things could be offensive.

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<v Speaker 1>And some of that stuff you don't even realize just

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<v Speaker 1>saying like, oh, you're like a mom. I forgot how

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<v Speaker 1>they said it in the show, but it was like

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<v Speaker 1>you're a mom, or you're like the aunt Jemima type,

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't realize that you are referencing these characters

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<v Speaker 1>that are very offensive to certain people. And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>being really impacted by that. There's just some sensitive topics

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't realize how you're offending someone until you

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<v Speaker 1>see it, or you see how they've been effective, or

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<v Speaker 1>you've even experienced it yourself so that you can relate. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So now we have thirty five years, which I could

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<v Speaker 1>not believe. I could not believe it had been thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five years. And when I think about the reunion, there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many things that I was looking forward to sing

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<v Speaker 1>and some cast members. I was absolutely looking forward to.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you think about this reunion y'all? I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like I got everything I needed. I got to see

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<v Speaker 1>it all of my favorite characters. I was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>shock because initially I was like, oh, I'm surprised that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone didn't get to join. When I first started watching

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<v Speaker 1>the show, And then when I started to see everybody

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<v Speaker 1>presenting themselves, I saw Freddie and I, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>just saw everyone, even down to the next generation of

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<v Speaker 1>film and students. I was really excited to see them

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<v Speaker 1>as well, because they had a lot of impactful shows

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<v Speaker 1>like they like even the rape episode that was very impactful.

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<v Speaker 1>That episode and oh my gosh, they touched on a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things that were sensitive and somewhat taboo. What

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<v Speaker 1>were any of the stories that you heard the a

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<v Speaker 1>Cash shared that surprised you. The number one surprise was

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<v Speaker 1>just how they were treated. I think I was surprised

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<v Speaker 1>at how they were treated because you see the show

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<v Speaker 1>and you realize you thought that they were like a family.

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<v Speaker 1>You thought it was just so like they were so

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<v Speaker 1>connected to like the entire project was connected. But to

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<v Speaker 1>hear the struggles that they went through as actors and

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<v Speaker 1>still were able to pull out such a major content,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, Wow, you really have to be talented. And

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<v Speaker 1>just hearing the stories that they told about their relationships

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<v Speaker 1>with each other and how they had to defend each

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<v Speaker 1>other was something that you know, you strive for in

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<v Speaker 1>relation to just the people in your community, your sisters,

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<v Speaker 1>your brothers, you want to strive to become that where

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<v Speaker 1>you're an advocate for them, and how Jasmine Guy said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's happening to them, its Taxactually shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>Jasmine Guy for that long stance, I can tell y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things I was surprised about the show

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<v Speaker 1>is right in line with my time frame, right like

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<v Speaker 1>I was sixteen when A Different World came out, very

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<v Speaker 1>much the trajectory of what they did from high school

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<v Speaker 1>and then with Denise being in college at Hillman. It

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<v Speaker 1>was amazing to me to know from behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 1>how much influenced Debbie Allen made on the show and

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<v Speaker 1>how I honestly believe if she hadn't become a part

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<v Speaker 1>of it and been the showrunner, the show probably wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have made it because it was not believe that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have the authenticity. It was okay in the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning because we literally got to see the stage set

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<v Speaker 1>for Denise, right, but when it started getting into those

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<v Speaker 1>real life experiences and dr denied some of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that you were saying, and how it was truly reflective

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<v Speaker 1>of your own experience without Debbie Allen having been a

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<v Speaker 1>Howard graduate and I think we would have seen the

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<v Speaker 1>authenticity of an HBC you reflected in that show. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was grateful. I mean, Debbie Allen is a force.

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<v Speaker 1>She's just phenomenal. I've always just adored her and had

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<v Speaker 1>so much respect for because this took it to another

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<v Speaker 1>level for me. That was one of the stories. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, my god, you know, I remember when she

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<v Speaker 1>came on, but I didn't know what she did for

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<v Speaker 1>the actors, how she empowered them to really be their

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<v Speaker 1>truest best selves in that space and to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>I just found that out. I just found that out

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<v Speaker 1>watching this episode. So when she said that she came in,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe she said it was like a season later

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<v Speaker 1>where they were all upset about how the direction it

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<v Speaker 1>was taking. It's funny because you noticed the shift you do,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you start to see how the culture starts

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<v Speaker 1>to be presented, even in the language, the language of

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<v Speaker 1>the script. So when she said in the show, how

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<v Speaker 1>the writers were here and the actors were here, like

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<v Speaker 1>still two separate rooms, I felt that and understood it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I hear exactly what you're saying. Yeah, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the reunion, And like maybe I was glad

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<v Speaker 1>to see everyone. There was an obvious person missing, but

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<v Speaker 1>the exception of that, it was phenomenal overdoing right on

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<v Speaker 1>time out. At the same time, it sound like a reunion,

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<v Speaker 1>like your own family union, Like I know these people,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you. I don't know, but I do. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I really started to tear up, like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like they're real, Like they're you know, because you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen like some of the reunions that they've attempted, but

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<v Speaker 1>they don't really get to get into the nitty gritty

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<v Speaker 1>or the discussion of what was really going on behind

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes, how do you really feel about each other?

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<v Speaker 1>And this one really dug in. It really dug into

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<v Speaker 1>the part where you felt truly connected to the character

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<v Speaker 1>and the actress or the actor. Yeah, personally and professionally,

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<v Speaker 1>just both exactly. A different world introduced you to HBCUs

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<v Speaker 1>as you shared earlier, and of course you were able

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<v Speaker 1>to Cheney University of Pennsylvania, which is the oldest HBCU

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<v Speaker 1>in America. Going yeah or not? But how did Cheney

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<v Speaker 1>mirror Human College or was it completely different? Let someone know.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course there were some aspects that were different, but

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<v Speaker 1>Greek life was very much the same. The whole bookstore.

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<v Speaker 1>Financial struggle was the same going to try to register

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<v Speaker 1>first classes. I remember seeing one of the episodes. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it was Lena who was having trouble registering. She

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't find housing. We've all been there. If you went

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<v Speaker 1>to an HBC, we can all connect on that same

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<v Speaker 1>thing about how difficult it is to register, and then

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<v Speaker 1>also the housing aspect of it, Like that's still an

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<v Speaker 1>issue today. I think it is, Yeah, exactly. But even

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<v Speaker 1>with the struggles, you just have the amazing connection with

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<v Speaker 1>the people. And just even as a graduate or an

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<v Speaker 1>alumni of university, I can call on anyone that's went

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<v Speaker 1>to Cheney and we have an instinct connection because we

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<v Speaker 1>just know where we came from. It's I promise you,

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<v Speaker 1>It's just something that is unimaginable. And when I talked

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<v Speaker 1>to some of my friends who went to p w

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<v Speaker 1>i's predominantly white institutions, they struggle with that and they

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<v Speaker 1>struggled keeping a connection. Really, that's me, I swear. When

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<v Speaker 1>you said that, I was, Oh, that must be nice.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. It is. It's amazing. We go to our

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<v Speaker 1>homecomings and it just feels, like I said, like a

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<v Speaker 1>family reunion. You just you remember these people, even if

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't seen them in twenty years. You see their

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<v Speaker 1>face and it's just like, okay, and we I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell you something that's a p w I kid being

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<v Speaker 1>a Michigander. I went to Kalamazoo and like the closest

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to come to being connected. I can tell y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Terry Crews, who was who grew up in flat

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<v Speaker 1>and my mom knows his dad there. They worked together.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the thing, we were at school at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, we were on campus at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize that until earlier this year. Really, that's

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<v Speaker 1>how crazy, that's how spread out we are. Because he

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<v Speaker 1>was on the football team and obviously I wasn't, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it was like a totally different experience. Whereas HBCU life,

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<v Speaker 1>you know everyone who went to right there's some larger

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<v Speaker 1>HBCUs where you might not, but you go to a

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<v Speaker 1>chain university where it's very intimate, it's very family oriented.

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<v Speaker 1>The first day at orientation, you have some of the

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<v Speaker 1>coaches and instructors at that orientation telling your parents that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be okay, and they basically take the

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<v Speaker 1>reins on how you're going to mature and grow up.

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<v Speaker 1>They go into how you're supposed to interact with society.

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<v Speaker 1>They care about you in a way that I do

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<v Speaker 1>not think I would have been cared for at a

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<v Speaker 1>p W I. I can tell you you're right, possibly

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<v Speaker 1>right to this day, which I had gone to an HBCU. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like I feel like I've been robbed now that you

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<v Speaker 1>know the reunion and hearing you, I'm like dog on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I should have just went ahead and gone well. I

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<v Speaker 1>always feel like there's no limits, So if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go got We had students that were all ages

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<v Speaker 1>there and they felt just as you know what. That's

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<v Speaker 1>so sweet. Bless your heart, you're doing your level best. No, ma'am,

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<v Speaker 1>no paym no lamb. I'm not going back to school.

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<v Speaker 1>We're done with that. We're done with that. You can

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<v Speaker 1>come with me to homecoming. But now you just finished

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<v Speaker 1>another major milestone, and we know that a different world,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Danita. We were right there cheering you on and

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<v Speaker 1>so proudly so much. How did the experience that you

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<v Speaker 1>had a changing shape the rest of your life. You

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<v Speaker 1>have so much freedom, even just as a black woman

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<v Speaker 1>like I had so much freedom to be who I was.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the challenges you deal with when you're at school.

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<v Speaker 1>There were so many different challenges that we had to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with that when you finally graduate, life becomes a

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<v Speaker 1>little easier. Not to say that there aren't challenges when

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<v Speaker 1>you're older, it's just that every time you think about

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<v Speaker 1>a challenge as an adult, you think back to man,

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<v Speaker 1>I had way more issues when I was in college,

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<v Speaker 1>or I had to deal with so many challenges when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a young adult that this is nothing. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me just finish school. Even in those stressful moments, I

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<v Speaker 1>have people that I can call. I know how to

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<v Speaker 1>connect to my support system. I have an amazing support system.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they can compare to my support system.

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<v Speaker 1>At the drop of a hat, if I'm having an issue,

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<v Speaker 1>I know who to call. I know exactly who will

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<v Speaker 1>bring me down. I know who will pep me up,

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<v Speaker 1>I know who will set me straight. And that all

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<v Speaker 1>comes from just Chaine University. Everyone that I connect with

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<v Speaker 1>in regards to like just making sure that I'm okay

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<v Speaker 1>has attended Chaine University. Not to say everyone, because there

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<v Speaker 1>are some people that are connected with along the way,

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<v Speaker 1>but my core group, they attend the Chine University and

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<v Speaker 1>they know the Denia that was at Chaine University. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not that that you see before you today. And that

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<v Speaker 1>connected a different world very much because because look at

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<v Speaker 1>how Freddie's transition was. I was tinding like Freddie where

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<v Speaker 1>she was a little lost and she had her moments

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<v Speaker 1>where it was like, what's she talking about? My friends

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<v Speaker 1>used to be like, you're a little goofy, what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on girl? And then all of a sudden you started

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<v Speaker 1>transition into Okay, maybe I do want to be become

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<v Speaker 1>a professional. I'm not a Norman, like, I'm not flake person.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to become a mature adult. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>see that shift in a person. And everyone that I've

0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:00.439
<v Speaker 1>attended Chaining university with has allowed me to have shift.

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<v Speaker 1>They've allowed me to mature. It's not like they're still

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<v Speaker 1>trying to hold me to the same immaturity that I

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<v Speaker 1>have as an undergrad. That is so powerful because you

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<v Speaker 1>want to have those be lifetime relationships that forge because

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<v Speaker 1>it helps you as you go through your evolution to

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<v Speaker 1>know that you have some foundational steadiness and that you

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<v Speaker 1>will be able to pass that on. Like the number

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<v Speaker 1>of people that are having the opportunity to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>us now and say, you know what, A different world

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<v Speaker 1>isn't on? And I can catch it in the reruns,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can go and look at episodes, but I

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<v Speaker 1>can hear firsthand from someone who attended an HBCU, and

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<v Speaker 1>now I can include that in my consideration for my

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<v Speaker 1>choices as a college. That's so powerful because hearing you,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm telling you, I wish I had gone to

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<v Speaker 1>an HBC you myself, and so I want want to

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for that. But at least we have our experience.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we need these conversations. That's right. Do I

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<v Speaker 1>need to go back? Should I go back to Oh? No?

0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, Wait a minute. You know you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the other people who with the other million people who

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<v Speaker 1>have listened, Yes, because yeah, okay, not me, that ship

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<v Speaker 1>is sealed. But for those who are selling onto college,

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<v Speaker 1>consider it because you hear Dr Juanita, it was definitely

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<v Speaker 1>something that made her life. It's been a different world

0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:32.399
<v Speaker 1>was the catalyst for that. So I'm so grateful to

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of this. And Dr Juanita, we could

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you for for hours. I know so much

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<v Speaker 1>more we could discuss on the impact of HBCUs. But

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<v Speaker 1>we have to go, so we want to say to

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<v Speaker 1>a fellow Red Table talk O g o ge, we

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<v Speaker 1>are so grateful for you being here and coming to

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<v Speaker 1>the birch for Red Table to share your HBCU you

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<v Speaker 1>experience and enjoy be a different world reunion with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I do appreciate you allowing me to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>If it can even persuade one person to consider an HBCU,

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<v Speaker 1>don't make it your second choice. Think about it as

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<v Speaker 1>the first option, because it really does change lives. It

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<v Speaker 1>really did. Love that. Alright, y'all, we're taking one more

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<v Speaker 1>break and when we returned, Jada will be joining us,

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<v Speaker 1>So don't go anywhere no more waiting. It is time

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<v Speaker 1>to welcome our very special guests, straight from the Red

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<v Speaker 1>Table herself, Ms. Jada peket Smith, Welcome Lo you successful ladies.

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<v Speaker 1>We are doing every day amazingly. That's how we are doing.

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<v Speaker 1>We are super excited to be here with you and

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<v Speaker 1>so grateful that you're coming fresh from the table to

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<v Speaker 1>our virtual were a table. We have lots to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>I know y'all have been doing such a beautiful job.

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<v Speaker 1>I have so much fun listening to you guys, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for what you do, and I'm just happy to

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<v Speaker 1>be here. Absolutely, thank you. We are excited to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a different world. And at the reunion you said

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<v Speaker 1>that times are hard right now for a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>and you hope this episode would bring some joy for people.

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you it accomplished that for me. The

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<v Speaker 1>topics at the Red Table have been heavy this season.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you take care of yourself in the midst

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<v Speaker 1>of opening yourself up to these tough conversations. Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in therapy that is just learning how to feel

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<v Speaker 1>safe in my vulnerability, because that's the only place to

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<v Speaker 1>really exist in regards to trying to be the most

0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:59.639
<v Speaker 1>loving and giving person that one can be, you really

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<v Speaker 1>have to learn how to feel safe in your vulnerability.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that I love most about the

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<v Speaker 1>Red Tables just kind of creating space for other people

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<v Speaker 1>to feel safe in their vulnerability. Fortunately, in this world today,

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<v Speaker 1>we just don't have a lot of that, especially for

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<v Speaker 1>people in general, I might say specially just for people

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<v Speaker 1>in general, just creating safe space where we can't just

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<v Speaker 1>be in our hearts, honestly, be in our experiences. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a process. I've been in this process for many, many,

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<v Speaker 1>many years. It's not like it just you know, happened

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<v Speaker 1>one day. Over the years of just me learning how

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<v Speaker 1>to be with myself and be with my experiences, embracing

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<v Speaker 1>my journey, and creating the Red Table to help others

0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:51.000
<v Speaker 1>embrace their journey. Because this is life. You know. We

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<v Speaker 1>are all trying to figure out how to do this

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's absolutely true, and to do it in the

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<v Speaker 1>most authentic way, to do it in an authentic way,

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<v Speaker 1>because we do ourselves your disservice. And the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>life isn't created in a way of like, Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be my authentic self and I'm gonna feel safe.

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<v Speaker 1>If the world creates that for me to do, it's like, no, no,

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.400
<v Speaker 1>that's not happening. So you have to really learn how

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<v Speaker 1>to create that in yourself. And if you're really blessed,

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<v Speaker 1>if you find any space, if that offers that to you,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta really really be grateful for that. Don't take

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<v Speaker 1>that for granted. It's a safe spaces for me. I

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<v Speaker 1>love a safe space. Red Table is one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite safe spaces. We have been a part of this

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<v Speaker 1>journey for years now. I'm so blessed to say that, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>geez y'all day one. That's right, that's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And just with the variety of people you've had come

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<v Speaker 1>to the table, come even to you just your home,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you go about conversations at the table with

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<v Speaker 1>people who are close with you, maybe even personal friends,

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<v Speaker 1>versus those you're just meeting for the first time. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting. It's hard for me to have conversations with

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<v Speaker 1>people that I actually am close with at the table.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so hard because that protective mode comes out. It's

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 1>so interesting, isn't it. I'm like, no, no, no, we're

0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 1>not gonna talk about that next, you know what I mean.

0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like that, I don't want you to feel all that,

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:23.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's so funny. With that, I have such

0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:27.919
<v Speaker 1>a level of discomfort. It's very hard for me to

0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 1>transition sometimes my personal relationships with certain people onto the

0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:36.679
<v Speaker 1>table in front of cameras. And sometimes it's not, but

0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:40.280
<v Speaker 1>most of the time it is. I remember when Queen

0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:44.440
<v Speaker 1>came to the table, because I know how Queen, as

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:48.199
<v Speaker 1>strong as she is, she's such a gentle like soul,

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:49.720
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. And I know how to

0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:52.240
<v Speaker 1>arrive and she is just got such a warm heart,

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:56.159
<v Speaker 1>Like I just I was like, no, no, no, no,

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 1>don't don't talk about that. We're not going to talk

0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:00.960
<v Speaker 1>about We're not talk about want you to know. I

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 1>don't want to. I don't want you to hurt. I

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 1>don't want to. I don't want to see you feel

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:05.720
<v Speaker 1>that right now, because then I can't jump over the

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:08.160
<v Speaker 1>table and just hold you. And I'm used to that,

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 1>you know. I don't want to have to be in

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 1>my professional like you know, we're at the table, we're talking.

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't just be my myself with my friends. I

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 1>have to be in this different state. So that's hard.

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 1>But when when you're doing well, thank you you really do.

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that, and I really like when I don't know,

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:29.400
<v Speaker 1>it's a good balance. Yes, yeah, it's a good balance

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 1>because you really can't tell, aside from the fact that

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:34.720
<v Speaker 1>you share with us that you have a relationship with

0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:37.360
<v Speaker 1>people you you can't tell in the way that you

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 1>are engaged with them that you know them or your

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>safeguarding yourself from that. So you do a wonderful job

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 1>of those interviews with the people that you care about.

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for that. I really appreciate that. And then

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, there've been people that have come to the

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:53.639
<v Speaker 1>table that I didn't know and I didn't think I

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 1>was going to have a fantastic connection with you. I

0:26:56.680 --> 0:27:00.479
<v Speaker 1>made so many new friends, and that is so awesome

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:02.600
<v Speaker 1>to me when I have the opportunity to like connect

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 1>with people that I never thought I would and we

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 1>get to vibe together and we get to like share

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:09.960
<v Speaker 1>that kind of space together. So it's almost like you

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 1>gain a home girl, you know what I'm saying. It's

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:16.919
<v Speaker 1>so neat because this show is a show where you

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:20.359
<v Speaker 1>do open up about your personal life. How do you

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:25.959
<v Speaker 1>maintain the balance of transparency while still keeping some aspects private. Well,

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:29.679
<v Speaker 1>you'd be shocked to know that people think that I

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 1>have opened on the table and they have no idea

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:39.359
<v Speaker 1>how much I don't. And I know it seems like

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:44.679
<v Speaker 1>from many kinds of episodes that we've had that I

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 1>have poured my life onto the table and people have

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 1>absolutely no idea. You know, I think once my book

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 1>comes out, people have an understanding because there's but so

0:27:57.320 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 1>much that you can really say in an hour. I

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 1>definitely have shared some intense moments of my life, for sure,

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 1>but helpen here like and I'm laughing because it's just funny.

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 1>But like people say, man, you're so open, you say

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 1>so much, And I'm thinking to myself in my mind,

0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:25.400
<v Speaker 1>that's not even scratching the surface, you know, Right, it's

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>because it's so fresh and new for them to hear

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 1>someone speak their truth. That is a celebrity. That is

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 1>probably what makes it seem like you're giving so much

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 1>because you are open with what you do give. Yeah,

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>because that's you know, I don't know how to do

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 1>that any other way. It's like there is transparency, but

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of privacy. Each person has to decide

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 1>what that looks like for them, right. I've heard you

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:55.960
<v Speaker 1>talk about the book a couple of other times. Is

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>the book in the works, Like should we be on

0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 1>standby waiting or you just teasing us with it? What's

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 1>going on with the book? Focus coming up and the fall?

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 1>You know? The book is a journey, a deeper journey.

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 1>It's a healing book and even in writing it has

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:18.480
<v Speaker 1>been a deeply cathartic healing journey that will be out

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>in I'm looking forward to it. I'm excited the countdown

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 1>for me just knowing all that we've seen in terms

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 1>of growth and how you've connected us to other professionals

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 1>that have given us the ability to learn and look

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 1>at our own truths and say, okay, wait a second,

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I need to get this together or I'm doing okay

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 1>in this area. And you can identify this season alone

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 1>has been so unbelievably educational. So how do you decide

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>which topics to shine a light on at the Red Table?

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 1>And can you walk us through that decision process? So

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>it really depends. It depends on what's going on and

0:29:56.720 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 1>everybody's life on board, you know, whether it's produced series,

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 1>whether it's Willow. You know, Willow be like, Mom, I

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 1>really want to talk about this subject, like okay, you know,

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>she's really passionate about something, or gam no, we don't

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 1>have to talk about this because I know. It really

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 1>just depends. And then there's some people who call us

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 1>and then like I really need a safe space, and

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>we get a lot of those calls and it's very

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 1>difficult to decide. You know, we only do but so

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 1>many a year, and it's painful because I wish we

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 1>had the ability to do more. But it's intense stuff,

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 1>and we do a bundle and then we got to

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>rest up and rejuvenate and take care that it seems

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>easy to do. People come to the table. That's usually

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>a three hour conversation. You guys know that because you

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>got that part right. They're long, you know what I mean,

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:59.239
<v Speaker 1>long time, you know, with some heavy stuff, you know,

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and so fee we have to take some time off.

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 1>We just have to see what's happening. We have to

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:07.960
<v Speaker 1>see what's what's just happening in the world as far

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 1>as like, okay, what are the issues and what are

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:17.080
<v Speaker 1>the things that people are looking to talk about hell

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 1>around We definitely take that into account and stay relevant

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>with it because I remember when COVID, right at the

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 1>beginning of it, we were at the precipitous of it,

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 1>and we had an opportunity to have a conversation. You

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 1>all gave us the opportunity to say pure our thoughts

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>and yes, it's so important for you to talk about this,

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 1>and so there's some flexibility that you factor in that's

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 1>so appreciated to stay current with what's happening. You know.

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 1>We were lucky to be able to do that, which

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 1>is one of the reasons why I wanted to go

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 1>to a platform like Facebook to have that kind of flexibility,

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 1>you just don't have that everywhere. That was an interesting

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 1>time during that time. Thankfully, Yeah, thank you for my

0:31:56.920 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 1>table talking. Yeah, getting back to a different world. On

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>the show, you were playing a character who was about

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>the same age as Willow now and you didn't mention

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>that in the episode looking back that you see Willow.

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>How does that impact the way you view a different

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 1>world today? Because I see Willow two. Yeah, I mean

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 1>it's a different world. Is still so supremely relevant when

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 1>we're looking back at all these topics, as far as

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 1>the topics we did around race, the topics that we

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:39.720
<v Speaker 1>did around domestic violence, the topics we did around politics. Man,

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 1>pretty much the state of what we were dealing with

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 1>at that time is the same in many ways, and

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 1>so it's still deeply relevant. The clothes might be a

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 1>little outdated, but even that's coming back, so you know

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>those are bad because you were totally rocking the cold

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 1>shoulder rhere. It's still really relevant. And Willows, she's so

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>vocal and fiery and opinionated. You know, she's like a

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 1>college student to me, and how she stays on top

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>of her reading and she's always on me like you can't.

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>That's you can't say it like that. You can't say

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 1>that anymore. And it's like, well, what do you mean.

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 1>She's like, no, that you can't say that. You know.

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 1>She's always schooling me, you know, and that reminds me

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 1>of Lena. Always politically correct, get it together, just do that,

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 1>do better, right, you will, just do better. So that

0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 1>spirit just reminds me of Lena and just kind of

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 1>in that stage of self actualizing and that's where Willow is,

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, and being open and like exploring and just

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 1>in awe of all the possibilities of life. And so

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 1>she she reminds me so much of Lena in that way.

0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 1>A force complete for yes, she is and sage and

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>she's far more wise than Lena at that age. But

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I do believe that young people today because they have

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 1>so much access with the Internet that we didn't have

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 1>at that age, you know what I mean. We had

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 1>to go all the way to the library to get

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>the Britannica talk look up stuff and pull up the books.

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Whereas they could just type something on their phone and

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 1>they got the answer right there. They can get in

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 1>contact with somebody in the other part of the world

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:40.320
<v Speaker 1>somewhere and get the full one one on what's happening

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 1>exactly right, exactly right. You mentioned at the reunion that

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>your favorite episode Homie Don't You Know Me with Tupac,

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 1>that episode had some powerful statements about personal growth, cultural codes,

0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:02.839
<v Speaker 1>and pure expectations and relationships. Which of those most resonated

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:06.919
<v Speaker 1>with you then and which hit home today? I mean,

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:11.359
<v Speaker 1>I think the peer expectations is still really relevant, and

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:13.759
<v Speaker 1>it hit that probably hit the most. I think it

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 1>was really so interesting that you asked that, because at

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:24.399
<v Speaker 1>that particular time, Pock and I were really trying to

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 1>figure out how to deal with our new lifestyles in

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:34.240
<v Speaker 1>regards to coming into a certain amount of notoriety and

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:38.359
<v Speaker 1>all the opportunity that was coming our way. It was

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of, in a lot of ways, creating this chasm

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:47.839
<v Speaker 1>between this new life we were coming into in an

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 1>old life that we were not trying to leave behind,

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and really trying to figure out the balance. That was

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>a really interesting time for us. That particular peer expectation

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 1>shin of like even us having friends feeling like, oh,

0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 1>so y'all can't come here no more? You know, It's like,

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, no, no, we can't, and I'm not acting right,

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to be, you know, but it's like

0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:17.279
<v Speaker 1>I can't anymore. It's different. I don't think I'm too

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 1>good for you. Yeah, and you get all of that.

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>And I had to learn fast that nobody can really

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:26.840
<v Speaker 1>understand where you sit if they haven't been there, and

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:29.919
<v Speaker 1>so I had to learn quick how not to take

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:36.759
<v Speaker 1>offense to them not understanding. Did having Tupac experiencing what

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:40.839
<v Speaker 1>you were experiencing in the same time frame help you? Absolutely?

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:44.719
<v Speaker 1>It helped us both, for sure. That's reminiscent. I mean

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:46.879
<v Speaker 1>it just has me thinking. I mean, we actually talked

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:48.920
<v Speaker 1>the game again and she said she still loves you

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 1>as Peaches, and I love seeing you up on a

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:56.240
<v Speaker 1>different world. So I'm just thinking, is there any acting

0:36:56.360 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>coming up? I mean, is there anything any new projects

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 1>ex that you're working on. I love seeing you in

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:04.719
<v Speaker 1>the equalizes that we're gonna bring about bring that up. Yeah,

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely some stuff that I'm thinking about diving back into.

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I definitely have two projects that I'm thinking about. I'm

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 1>older now, you know. For me, it's gotta be about

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 1>some real joy in regards to how I spend my time.

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 1>But I definitely have two projects. And I'm looking at like,

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 1>all right, let's see, you know, so I think I

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 1>might be it just hits different, so different. I'm like,

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I did, I've been there, done all that. I've been

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 1>in this damn game for three decades plus, Like I'm

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 1>an o G. So it's gotta be it's gotta be

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.919
<v Speaker 1>an alignment. Yeah, it's gotta be fun. But I love

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Red Table Talk. I want to see you at the table.

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 1>But I mean I also love Stony too, and it's

0:37:57.600 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 1>a couple of things we'll see. Okay. See, we know

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 1>there can't be a satd Off reunion, so we know

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 1>there's no point. You know, we can't have a sequel

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 1>to No No, No, No. I don't even want to

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:14.239
<v Speaker 1>no no no, because she's gone. But all of them?

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 1>What about up? What about a podcast or any other

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 1>avenues like that? I mean, of course, thank you for

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 1>coming to Let's Red Table. That the official fan rewatch

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 1>podcast for Red Table Talk, But what about you any

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 1>other podcast vibes? You know, I feel like I talk

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 1>enough on Red Table. I can hear myself on there. Honestly,

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I know people ain't trying to hear me talk no more.

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:47.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't even at that. No, I love it. We've

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:50.279
<v Speaker 1>asked our questions, but we have some questions directly from

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:54.239
<v Speaker 1>the fans. Are you ready to give some answers change? Well,

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 1>here's ports your flowers with her question. The different World

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty progressive for its time, but has changed since then.

0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 1>If a different world we're done today, what topics do

0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:07.680
<v Speaker 1>you think it would cover? I don't know. If we

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<v Speaker 1>did a show around suicide, solevant what we today? Given

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:16.879
<v Speaker 1>what we know today, our precious twitches no longer with us.

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<v Speaker 1>I think suicide is more prevalent in the black community

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<v Speaker 1>now than it's ever been. We would have definitely dealt

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<v Speaker 1>with suicide for sure. You know, I was talking to

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<v Speaker 1>well many friends today because we were just all just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one of the things haven't gone through my

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 1>own struggles with suicide and tendencies and what have you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I said, one of the things specifically for

0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 1>the black community is that we don't have the language

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<v Speaker 1>when we're in trouble, because it's like for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the environments that we come out of, right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody's having a hard time when you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out the language of how to express No, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a different kind of hard time, the pressure of life.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels different. I don't want to be here anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you express that? And when you're not a knight,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you're not an anomaly, that's it. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to explain to my friends today. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>just the shame, because when you're black and you're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>my ancestors survived being whooped, rapes, kids getting stone, they

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<v Speaker 1>survived slavery. Why am I having such a difficult time?

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<v Speaker 1>Especially if you've had the opportunity to experience a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of your dream right, and then other people around you

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:53.879
<v Speaker 1>are looking at you like, well, what's wrong? They think

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 1>that is the be all, end all, And so then

0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:02.239
<v Speaker 1>that compacts the shame. It limits the language of like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having a hard time. It's like, well, what does

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:07.759
<v Speaker 1>that mean? We're all having Like what do you mean?

0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:10.120
<v Speaker 1>So I was telling a friend of money today, we

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 1>talked so much about hey, check on your strong friends,

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 1>check on your people. It's like, yes, we need to

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<v Speaker 1>do that for sure, but we also need to talk

0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 1>to people who are having a hard time. We need

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<v Speaker 1>to give them a language. How do you express that?

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<v Speaker 1>You can't do this sentence, you know, or just that

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:33.799
<v Speaker 1>I can't do this anymore and I'm not playing right.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you have the space to say that? How

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 1>do you have the space and the courage? Some people

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<v Speaker 1>can't even get that out of their mouths because of

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:46.439
<v Speaker 1>the shame, and so it's so much shame for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we go to the next question on behalf of

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the Let's Read table, that family, we would like to

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:56.800
<v Speaker 1>extend our sincere sympathy to the family of Twitch, his fans,

0:41:56.960 --> 0:42:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and all who knew and loved him. Taylor Round has

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<v Speaker 1>a question that I am also really curious to know

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<v Speaker 1>the answer to. Here's Taylor. Growing up, my mom and

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<v Speaker 1>I would watch three Runs together, and now I watch

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<v Speaker 1>three Runs with my kids. So I want to know,

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:21.680
<v Speaker 1>do you watch three runs with your kids? Yeah? I

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 1>could already say your head, you're like, uh, I don't

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Speaker 1>think I've watched too much of anything I've done with

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 1>my kids. If we're not like at a event like

0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 1>a premiere or anything like that. Okay, So tell us

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>more about that. Is that because they don't want to

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 1>see it or you don't want to see it with them,

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 1>it's just not something we do. It's like mommy. They

0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 1>don't care, you know what I mean. It's different with

0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:52.440
<v Speaker 1>their dad. But something about that mommy relationship. They like,

0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:54.239
<v Speaker 1>you can do everything on the sun, but at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day. And what they did like to

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<v Speaker 1>do that they saw me do a lot was when

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<v Speaker 1>I was out on the road. They used to love

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<v Speaker 1>to watch me perform. Specifically, well okay, oh yeah, well

0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 1>loved it. That makes sense. Have to sneaker and that

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:14.799
<v Speaker 1>makes total sense. She was watching you because she was

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:18.799
<v Speaker 1>at your feet learning. So it was a stage. Yeah,

0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 1>she was saying, okay, the I'm taking notes. Yeah, and

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:24.840
<v Speaker 1>she I mean, I sneak her into the club on

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:28.800
<v Speaker 1>the security shoulders for like ten minutes so she can watch,

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:35.759
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Yeah, so they did that.

0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:39.400
<v Speaker 1>They enjoyed being with me on tour. They enjoyed watching

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 1>me perform music. But for some reason, movies and TV,

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 1>well it's so much more structure. I also think it's

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:49.799
<v Speaker 1>like that's the work, Like that's my mom's job. For them,

0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:51.839
<v Speaker 1>that's my mom's job. I want to be with mom

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:55.239
<v Speaker 1>when it's so. I think the performance was like something different, right,

0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 1>just a different aspect of you. Yeah, it was like

0:43:57.560 --> 0:43:59.759
<v Speaker 1>an experience it was like, oh, we get do this

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 1>to set, you know, and watching me like that and

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:06.720
<v Speaker 1>being with me like that. They loved being on the set,

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.799
<v Speaker 1>but like sitting and we didn't watch something mommy did

0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:14.279
<v Speaker 1>and it's like yeah, okay, Yeah, it's time for the

0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 1>final fan question, and this one is from Kiana Robinson.

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<v Speaker 1>Which characteristics, moments, or decisions for your character felt most

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<v Speaker 1>aligned with who you were in your own identity at

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 1>the time, and which moments, characteristics, or decisions were a

0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 1>little harder to lean into. So maybe they made a

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:36.760
<v Speaker 1>decision that you yourself wouldn't have made. Yeah, no, because

0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:42.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, Debbie created that character Lena James off of me.

0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes you and your bold blessing. And it's so funny

0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:52.799
<v Speaker 1>because I looked at it as a compliment because I

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:56.319
<v Speaker 1>was just like she was always had she was it,

0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:58.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, And so I was like, I'm a ju

0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm a i'm a dan, I'm a direct, I'm an act,

0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm a sing like Debbie did it all and so

0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be a black female talent like that.

0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:11.279
<v Speaker 1>So when I got to meet her, it was the

0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Yeah, I'm gonna be the next you.

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 1>You Oh, I love it. That's like the ultimate compliment.

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:27.719
<v Speaker 1>Had you ever talked to her about that prior to

0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 1>sitting at the table and talking at the renunion about

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 1>you saying all the time, you know, she's doing that

0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 1>up all the time. She took me under her wing.

0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:41.480
<v Speaker 1>From that moment on. She told me in the room,

0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:44.719
<v Speaker 1>she said, I'm not gonna hire you for this, but

0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you you're gonna come on this show as a series regular.

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:51.480
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna create this role around you. She said, tell

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:54.800
<v Speaker 1>me about you. So I told her my whole story

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:57.960
<v Speaker 1>and she was like, that's what we're gonna do. We're

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna create a carecter around you. Was you. I have

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:06.480
<v Speaker 1>never had experience like that in Hollywood ever. Again, you

0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:09.480
<v Speaker 1>know when somebody you walk into a room and they

0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:13.399
<v Speaker 1>just see you so much so that they take you

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:17.520
<v Speaker 1>under their wing. Only Debbie, that's the best affirmation I

0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 1>could ever have. And I was nineteen years old, I'd

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 1>only been in l A for a year and a half.

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:27.319
<v Speaker 1>That was the bindly order me. I'm so clear about that.

0:46:27.760 --> 0:46:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm so about that. Yeah, she gave me the wings

0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:35.359
<v Speaker 1>that I needed and my career took off. It took

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:38.480
<v Speaker 1>off from there. I remember being on the show. I

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:43.040
<v Speaker 1>got menace to society and they didn't want to let

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:46.360
<v Speaker 1>me out of my not out of my contract, but

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:48.920
<v Speaker 1>like a justust my schedule because I was willing to

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 1>do both things, which I ended up doing. Debbie went

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:54.759
<v Speaker 1>in there, she went in there, she was like, oh no,

0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:58.880
<v Speaker 1>She went to the principal's office and she said, no,

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:02.640
<v Speaker 1>we don't let this baby do this this movie, that's

0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:06.440
<v Speaker 1>what we are gonna do. So she literally the course

0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:11.840
<v Speaker 1>of a different world. She absolutely did, really created a

0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:15.759
<v Speaker 1>staple in my opinion and black culture in such a

0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:20.040
<v Speaker 1>beautiful way. Different world is just it's just its own thing.

0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel so blessed to have been a part of

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:27.560
<v Speaker 1>of that legacy for sure. Timeless, Priceless found the right

0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:30.640
<v Speaker 1>person to have your be my beacon, as my angel,

0:47:30.760 --> 0:47:36.480
<v Speaker 1>as my Hollywood mom as just to this day, Debbie

0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:41.280
<v Speaker 1>is like one of my greatest supporters no matter what's

0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 1>going on. I love that. I love that. I appreciate

0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 1>that you also support us. You have taken Tracy now

0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:48.600
<v Speaker 1>into your wing and we were able to host this

0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:50.839
<v Speaker 1>podcast be here with you and just have so many

0:47:51.120 --> 0:47:53.279
<v Speaker 1>amazing moments, and of course we could keep you for

0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:56.480
<v Speaker 1>hours and hours, but I'm sure that you have some

0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:58.720
<v Speaker 1>places to be, so we're gonna let you go for now,

0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:03.439
<v Speaker 1>for now, but thank you so much that we'll see

0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:08.960
<v Speaker 1>you again. Absolutely, absolutely, thank you so much, ladies. I

0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:13.279
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you so much. You guys have just been just

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:20.520
<v Speaker 1>such great supporters I need from day one. I love

0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:25.320
<v Speaker 1>you both so much. And yeah, you guys are just fantastic.

0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 1>You really are. You guys are just beautiful, beautiful, beautiful,

0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:32.440
<v Speaker 1>So thank you for having me. We want to know

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