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Visit SWBC dot com Now your 10 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: hosts Nate Newton and Bobby Bell. 11 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 3: Happy Wednesday, everyone, Welcome in the Cowboys Cross Talk live 12 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 3: from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco, Texas. 13 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 4: I am not your host, Poppy Belt. 14 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: My name is Tommy Yards of Dallascowboys dot Com. Alongside 15 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 3: me is Corey Majors. From one oh five to three, 16 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: the fan were joined as always by the three times 17 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 3: Super Bowl champion, six time Pro Bowler Nate Newton and 18 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: our special guest this evening is former Cowboys defensive end 19 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: Pro Bowl defensive end Anthony Spencer. 20 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 4: Welcome to the program. Thank you so much for making 21 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 4: the time. 22 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 5: I appreciate it. 23 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: Thank you all for joining us here on the Dallas 24 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 3: Cowboys Radio Network, Dallas Cowboys dot Com, and all other 25 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 3: associated social media platforms. Now that all that's out of 26 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: the way, let's go ahead and dive into your past 27 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: a little bit here. Anthony fort Wayne, Indiana, Yes. Born 28 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 3: and raised in Bishop High School. I thought that was 29 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 3: really interesting, just kind of looking back at that. You 30 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: were the three year starter there. You only lost three games, right, 31 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: What do you remember about your high school days and 32 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: those two state championships you won? 33 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 5: I remember the losses. I remember the losses. 34 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 4: As a true competitor one it was. 35 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 5: It was a lot of good time, a lot of 36 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 5: good times. 37 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 6: Like my first year and the freshman class that we had, 38 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 6: we only lost the three times that Like, we went 39 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 6: through the SAC was our conference, and we just beat 40 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 6: everybody our freshman year and we all kind of got 41 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 6: moved up that year. And then just getting a little 42 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 6: bit of taste of how varsity football was. 43 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 5: It was. 44 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 6: It was kind of mind blowing the difference between freshmen 45 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 6: to varsity. And then once I became our very first 46 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 6: game we lost as varsity, like we lost against the 47 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 6: five A team and we got demolished and I remember 48 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 6: us all being at Burger King after the game just 49 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 6: talking about how we all got whooped up on and 50 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 6: it was just like, we can't have this happening, like 51 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 6: and then after that it's like all of us kind 52 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 6: of just hell, does everybody accountable? 53 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 5: Like do your job? I do my job. And then 54 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 5: we just went on a winning. 55 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, but me, So what you just one sport? 56 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 5: Guy? Did you get into? 57 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 6: I love I loved basketball. Basketball was my number one 58 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 6: sport growing up. I had a lot of hoop dreams. 59 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 6: I thought that I was going to be the next 60 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 6: Michael Jordan, but I learned quickly like playing au because 61 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 6: that was every summer in Indiana. 62 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 5: It was just always basketball, basketball, basketball. 63 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 6: So probably around sophomore year I started. I was playing 64 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 6: that power forward center, uh swing guard position. The guy 65 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 6: started being six six six seven, you know, so I 66 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 6: was like, I can't, I'm not matching up well. So 67 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 6: it pushed me into the football world a lot more. 68 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 4: The kids watching this show just got the six seven. 69 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 5: My kids love it. 70 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 4: I knew. I knew as soon as you said that 71 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 4: that you said your kids would. 72 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, now did you? 73 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 8: Was NFL always a dream or was it kind of 74 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 8: like at some point it became a dream. 75 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 5: At one point it became a dream. You know. I 76 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 5: was always doing. 77 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 6: What I had to do to do what I wanted 78 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 6: to do, and that kind of just even one thing 79 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 6: led to another. I was really good at basketball and 80 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 6: I was really good at football. I had scholarships to 81 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 6: do both. But just me seeing the I mean the 82 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 6: writing on the wall, I guess to say, just to 83 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 6: see that I was better at football, Like I got 84 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 6: more accolades and more praise for it. 85 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 5: So I just stayed with what I was good at. 86 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, looking back, we'll talk about the NFL here in 87 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: just a little bit, But in you're recruiting, when your 88 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: recruitment was going on, you ended up going to Purdue. Yeah, 89 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 3: what other offers that you have and what went into 90 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 3: that decision? Was it wanting to stay close to home? 91 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: And what was it about coach Tiller that made you 92 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: want to commit to the boiler Makers? 93 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 2: Uh? 94 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 6: The biggest thing that separated, Like I had offers from 95 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 6: like Texas A and m Michigan State. I was like 96 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 6: I had offers from all over because I would go 97 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 6: to these camps and they were like, oh, like you're 98 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 6: really I would get offered at the camp. 99 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 5: But my grades weren't good. 100 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 6: So Purdue what they like, they were like a lot 101 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 6: of teams were like, he's not gonna be able to 102 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 6: get eligible. What they really tried to Purdue helped me, 103 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 6: Like they helped me. They told me I need to 104 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 6: take night school. They told me what classes I should 105 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 6: really take over, what I should focus on, and uh 106 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 6: even the SAT like telling me like to go take 107 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 6: a test or practice practice tests for the SAT. Like 108 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 6: they just got me prepared, you know what I mean. 109 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 6: And that really showed me that they wanted me there. 110 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 6: And then once I got my grades right, everybody came 111 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 6: back like the offers out of Wahoo. 112 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 5: But I was like, I'm gonna go. 113 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 6: I'm gonna go to Purdue because it was just like 114 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 6: they wanted me there, and it was like, I don't know, 115 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 6: I always I always try to just read between the 116 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 6: lines in life, you know what I mean, because there's 117 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 6: always options. You got choices you have made. The choices 118 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 6: that you make is really gonna shape shape your life, 119 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So I really uh looked 120 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 6: at those things before I made decisions like that. 121 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: And then just with coach till Or he was there 122 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 3: for a really long time, and especially when by the 123 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 3: time that you had gone there, what was your relationship 124 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: like with him and how did you see it grow 125 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: over the years there, especially going into the senior year. 126 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 4: Where you had your best year in college. 127 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 6: Football accountability wise, like because like I said, like my 128 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 6: grades that didn't change when I got to college, you 129 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 6: know what I mean. So it was like just them 130 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 6: him keeping me accountable to my grades and just the 131 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 6: amount of work that I put into things, and then 132 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 6: the the gratitude and the things that I had for 133 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 6: what I have done for myself. I made it made 134 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 6: it more important, you know I mean, and just him 135 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 6: showing me how to make things important in my life, 136 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 6: how I went about it, the decisions that I was making, 137 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 6: and it just he was just like more of a 138 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 6: father figure. 139 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 5: A lot of a lot of coaches that I had. 140 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 6: I probably had probably three four different position coaches while 141 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 6: I was there, but each one of them brought different 142 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 6: aspects of my personality out, you know what I mean. 143 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 6: So they had guys that yelled at me and tried 144 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 6: to get it out to me, and then guys asked 145 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 6: playing to me, like if you just did X, like 146 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 6: it was just a lot of different personalities and now 147 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 6: today it just really helped shape me and to be 148 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 6: able to cause I do. I coach with my kids now. 149 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 6: So like when I'm coaching certain kids, it's like I 150 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 6: don't get through to them if I'm yelling or be 151 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 6: in a certain type of way. So it's like everybody 152 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 6: responds to different Yes, sure you know what I mean. 153 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 5: So it's like I learned all that. 154 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 6: From Coach Tiller and all the other coaches I had 155 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 6: while I was at Producer. 156 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 7: Let me let me so the accolades man, he said, 157 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 7: your senior year, I mean, tell me about it, man, Yeah, going, well, 158 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 7: this is what this was like. 159 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 6: So my junior year, I can't like I was went 160 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 6: to that little combine thing and then like I was 161 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 6: projected to be a six round pick and the guys 162 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 6: I was playing with that gap that went out that 163 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 6: year they were third, second, fourth round picks. I'm like, 164 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 6: I'm just as good, or if not better than these guys. 165 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 6: So I went after that, I went to home for 166 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 6: whatever break it was. I was working at General Motors 167 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 6: during that time. Like my mom, she worked at General 168 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 6: MoES for a really long time. But during that time 169 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 6: when I was working at General Motors, I was making 170 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 6: seventeen twenty. 171 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 5: Dollars an hour, which I thought was you know. 172 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 6: What I mean, like a lot of freaking money back then. 173 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 6: So but after working there for like three four weeks 174 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 6: and not having what I thought I should have out 175 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 6: of it, yeah, I mean, like it's a lot of 176 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 6: hard work and put put perspective on the work that 177 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 6: I was doing at Purdue. So I went back to 178 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 6: Purdue after that, like three weeks of summer and I 179 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 6: went back. I did every rep I ran. I try 180 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 6: to be the first in every race. Like I just 181 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 6: I just pushed myself to like to the end, I mean, 182 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 6: because I saw the life that I could be living 183 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 6: in Fort Wayne and working at General Motors and doing 184 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 6: those things. But it's like, yeah, if I just pushed 185 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 6: myself a little bit more, and you know, I mean, 186 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 6: it wasn't hard. Yeah, I mean it was like when 187 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 6: before it was hard, you know. I mean when I 188 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 6: looked at it, it was. 189 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 5: A lot of things that I didn't want to do. 190 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 6: But it just put things in perspective and made football easy. 191 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 6: It made me enjoy it and love it for because 192 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 6: it's a game, you know, I mean, like, who has 193 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 6: the opportunity to play a game for a living. I 194 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 6: tell the same thing to my kids, Like, you do 195 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 6: a lot of work now so that you can have 196 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 6: a lot of choices later. 197 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that work paid off and you certainly made 198 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: it look easy. Ten and a half sacks. Let the 199 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 3: team ninety three tackles. That was third on the team, 200 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 3: First Team All Big Ten, third Team. 201 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 4: All American. 202 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 3: We keep on going down the list, but that was 203 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 3: a that was a really special year. 204 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, I was that style of football up there. I 205 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 8: always look at all the conferences and I'm like, there's 206 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 8: a lot of pageantry in Big twelve. There's a lot 207 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 8: of it feels fast on the West Coast, but up there, 208 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 8: it's like this smash mouth style of football. Right is 209 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 8: that do you kind of see the same thing? Yes, 210 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 8: for sure, Like and and that was the Big Ten. 211 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 8: Now it's completely different. 212 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 5: It's a little bit o next week. 213 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, but the culture there it was just like more 214 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 6: just in your face fight, like like who's tougher than who? 215 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 6: Type of situation in our team my senior year, like 216 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 6: we've built our like foundation around that, like we like 217 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 6: we compete against each other, we and It's like, I 218 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 6: feel like a show too, because like they're like Nikovich, Cliff, 219 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 6: all these guys that are coming out a pretty during 220 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 6: that time is because we. 221 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 5: Were just we're steel sharpened and steel. 222 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 6: You mean, we all were working against each other and 223 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 6: making each other better during that time. 224 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 3: Wow, well it certainly worked. Really, that hard nose style 225 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 3: is the big ten. I feel like it's always regardless 226 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 3: of the shifting landscape of college football, it's always been 227 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 3: known for who's the toughest team, who's the most hard 228 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 3: nosed team on the interior, and specifically on the interior, 229 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: that's kind of where the nose area was, kind of 230 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: where you had started your career. And then when we 231 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 3: get to our next time, we're gonna go and take 232 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: our first break here. We're gonna talk about the movie 233 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 3: that Anthony Spencer made to the outside and when you 234 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 3: became a first round pick back in two thousand and seven, 235 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 3: the Cowboys moved you outside, and trivia question for all 236 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 3: of you guys heading into the break here, he ended 237 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: up starting next to a guy in Dallas who wore 238 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 3: the number ninety four. 239 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 4: I know it's going to be really difficult to figure 240 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 4: out who that is. 241 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: But we'll talk about that in more coming up on 242 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,479 Speaker 3: our next segment here of Cowboys Crossed. 243 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 5: Off clear. 244 00:11:30,960 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 9: Cow Cowboys, no cowbaws, no Cowboys nos. 245 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgages, Dallas Cowboys Crosstalk broadcasting live from the Cowboys 246 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: Club at the Star in Frisco. 247 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 3: And welcome back to Cowboys Cross Talk, brought to you 248 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 3: by our friends at SWBC. 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We talked 258 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 3: going into the break a little bit about what do 259 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 3: you remember from Draft nine of two thousand and seven. 260 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 6: Oh, I remember not wanting to have people at the house, 261 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 6: and then getting to the house and it was full 262 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 6: of people, and my mom wanted to have a party 263 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 6: and all that stuff. But I'm I've always been like 264 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 6: to myself and like, just I don't know. I don't 265 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 6: like the hoopla. Yeah, I don't like the hype. I 266 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 6: don't like the hype. Yeah, I've never been like that. 267 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 6: So that's what I remember most about it. But it 268 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 6: was it was a very exciting time for me, just 269 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 6: because I wasn't sure where I was going to go, 270 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 6: Like I had had projections of where I was going 271 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 6: to be at, and I had visited so many different 272 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 6: teams and talked to so many different people during that 273 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 6: time that it was just like I had no idea. 274 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 5: But once I knew where. 275 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 6: I was gonna go, it was very exciting because I 276 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 6: knew of the Cowboys because they were America's team right 277 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 6: so to say. But as a as a young child 278 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 6: growing up, I wasn't I didn't watch football, like, I 279 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 6: wasn't a football fan like. 280 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 5: I was more into basketball and stuff like that. 281 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 6: So just for me just to know the organization and 282 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 6: the people that I was going to be around, like 283 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 6: it made it easier, I feel like. 284 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 3: And then being a first round pick, regardless of year, 285 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 3: you come in with high expectations and you know, usually 286 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: you're looked at us. You're gonna be starting playing early, right, 287 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 3: Well for you, Greg Allis is still dealing with the 288 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 3: injury and all right, removing the outside you're starting next 289 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 3: to the Marcus Ware. What was that rookie season like 290 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 3: and how much did wear help you early on? 291 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 5: Man? D Ware was awesome for me. 292 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 6: Like I remember the first day I got there and 293 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 6: it was just like he's just yelling my name across 294 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 6: the locker room and I don't even know who he is, 295 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 6: and I like he walking up and just embracing me 296 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 6: and making it just feel at home, you know, I 297 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 6: mean just like like they wanted me there. Like it 298 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 6: was like the same type of thing that I felt 299 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 6: when I went to produce, so and just deware and 300 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 6: even Greg Greg was super helpful for me on my 301 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 6: first year. Like even with it being like a business 302 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 6: and I'm taking his job or having his like us 303 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 6: having the same job, he wasn't ever like not trying 304 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 6: to help me. 305 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 5: So that was another big just. 306 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,239 Speaker 6: Thinking because I didn't really understand how the how the 307 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 6: business of the game worked at that time. Like when 308 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 6: I got here, like I knew I was going to 309 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 6: be backing him up, But I didn't know that he 310 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 6: was going to be leaving, you know what I mean, 311 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 6: Like I like, I didn't know I was gonna be 312 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 6: like taking his position in that in that type of way, 313 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 6: but then to it forth to turn out how it did, 314 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 6: and him to be the person that he was to me, Like, 315 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 6: he just made it easier for me when new guys 316 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 6: came in, to be able to feed into them and 317 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 6: just give them knowledge into I don't know, just to 318 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 6: push it forward. Like, but he where and Greg were 319 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 6: both awesome when I first got here. 320 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 8: You know, sometimes you're in high school man among boys, 321 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 8: you go to college, it's good. 322 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 5: Then you get to the NFL. 323 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 8: The power, the difference and strength of guys across from you. 324 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 8: How different was that? Was there a wake up call there? 325 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 5: Yes? For sure? So my that first like that first 326 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 5: training camp, it was. 327 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 6: Like playing a high school or college game every every practice, 328 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. 329 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 5: So it was it was a lot. It was a 330 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 5: lot different. 331 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 6: So it made it but it made me better faster, 332 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 6: Like and the guys that we had on the team 333 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 6: on that offensive line that first year, like they made 334 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 6: me get ready for the league. I mean, just the 335 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 6: practices were the hardest thing during the week, you, I mean, 336 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 6: then when we got into the game, it was just like, 337 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 6: I'm doing what I was doing in practice all week. 338 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 6: So it made it a lot easier just competing against 339 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 6: guys of that caliber, you know. 340 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 8: I mean, yea, having that kind of coaching staff is 341 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 8: always nice, right, right? 342 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 7: I hope I ain't jump in the gum. But now, 343 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 7: what was position did he play in college? Because you 344 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 7: had a question? 345 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 4: Was I incorrect about that? 346 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 5: You? What position did you play in college? I played? 347 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 6: I played defensive end in college, So I went, I 348 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 6: went from, well. 349 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 4: There you go, there's my first coming back. 350 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 8: In the three four edge, right, like that was what 351 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 8: he did. 352 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, but you're you said I played I played nose 353 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 6: when I was in high school, right, and then I 354 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 6: moved to defensive Yah. 355 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, I just wanted to know because I kind of 356 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 7: missed that part. So I'm like, because a lot of 357 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 7: guys get moved around coming out of high school, you 358 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 7: the biggest guy, even though you ain't the biggest guy 359 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 7: when you get to get to high school, even middle school, 360 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 7: you ain't the biggest guy when you get to college. 361 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 7: And so you know, like I was, I was just 362 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 7: the biggest guy you know. So I just wanted to 363 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 7: know him because a lot of guys started one position 364 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 7: and all of a sudden, you're like, wow, this kid 365 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 7: developed from a nose guard right to the outside linebacker. 366 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 6: And it's like, as I got first there along end 367 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 6: of my career, it's just like I I've moved further 368 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 6: and further away from the ball. 369 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, what is. 370 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 4: That transition like as you look back on it now 371 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 4: you know it? Sometimes when you see. 372 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 3: Guys move around as from fans, from an outsider subspective, 373 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: it's oh, okay, they're moving a little bit more on 374 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 3: the outside. Yeah, what changes and what are the difficulties 375 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 3: of changing that? 376 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 4: When you move from not just high school to college, 377 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 4: but especially college. 378 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 5: Is the NFL responsibilities? So as a defensive end, it's. 379 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 6: A pretty much straightforward You're going to get the quarterback 380 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 6: and the guy goes down, you do such and such. 381 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 6: But when you have a linebacker position, like you're in 382 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 6: the past routes now and the coverages and uh, it's 383 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 6: just a lot more the checks. And I loved it because. 384 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 5: It made me know more about the defense. 385 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 6: It helped me learn more about what this guy was 386 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 6: doing and what that guy was doing, so it made 387 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 6: me do my job easier. 388 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 8: Nate, you were talking this morning when you were on 389 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 8: with our morning show Sean and RJ and Bobby, They 390 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 8: and you were talking about, you know when you learn 391 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 8: that pop that use your hands reset the guy. I 392 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 8: was just thinking, my, you know, my kids in middle school, 393 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 8: I'm teaching him these things like that. I was like, 394 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 8: oh man, I got to get him powerful right there. 395 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 8: But I was I was kind of curious because the 396 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 8: reset he reset you how when when you get reset? 397 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 5: How does now what do you. 398 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 8: What You're going through your mind because it's a lot 399 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 8: of instinct, but you just got moved off. Now you 400 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 8: still got to get to the quarterback right. 401 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 6: So like my first couple of years, it was a 402 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 6: lot of I would say growing pains, just because I 403 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 6: was having to learn how to move backwards and then 404 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 6: move forwards and in certain different situations. So if it 405 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 6: was a pass, then I would be in coverage, and 406 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 6: if it was a run, then I should be going forward. 407 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 6: So just getting my feet together, the footwork was just 408 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 6: the biggest thing for my my my the progression in 409 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 6: my first couple of years, it's just making sure that 410 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 6: I didn't fall. 411 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 5: Step, And it was just a lot of little things. 412 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 6: And I mean, I feel like that was what really 413 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 6: made good players good, is that they had to focus 414 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 6: on the little things and do the little things like 415 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 6: they were your job. 416 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, the details at this level or the difference margins. 417 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 7: And see when I'm playing a guy like him, that's 418 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 7: a great pass rusher, and I want him into a 419 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 7: second move because if I can get him into a 420 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 7: second move, that give my quarterback a chance to get 421 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 7: that first read. 422 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 5: You know so, But that's why I'm saying. 423 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 7: If I'm sitting back on him and he's outside linebacker, 424 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 7: if I can get him to sturdy his feet, that 425 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 7: gives my quarterback even a better chance to make that read. 426 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 7: But if he moving into me in one fluid movement 427 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 7: and he's gonna coming off that edge, now I'm losing 428 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 7: a step. And if he get even with me, he 429 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 7: leaving me and my quarterback gonna have to make a move. 430 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 7: He's gonna get knocked out, he gonna scramble away. 431 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 5: And that was that was the biggest thing for me. 432 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 6: Like I said, with the feedwork, it's just making sure 433 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 6: that I was on the tackle by the time he 434 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 6: was typing for me to be on the tackle and 435 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 6: I'm not back on the line. And it was just 436 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 6: like figuring that part out was the hardest part. 437 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 8: As when you were studying Nate, did you go, okay, 438 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 8: that's his first move, his second move will be this, yeah, okay. 439 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 7: So you were already thinking the the great players, you 440 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 7: can see it you just setting up. Yeah, yeah, but 441 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 7: average player, oh my god, it's yeah all day. But 442 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 7: a player that was fluid, like you said, had his 443 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,479 Speaker 7: steps down. He looking at your feet too, because if 444 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 7: you turn too much to that sideline, he dipping and going. 445 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 7: But if you try to stay straight up, he got choices. 446 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 7: He can speed power, your power, your speed. 447 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 5: So it's you know, and like I say, it can 448 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 5: be a battle. You can have your hands full. 449 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 3: You know, you said a lot of guys had their 450 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: hands full with with you, Anthony. 451 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 4: But especially in that twenty twelve. 452 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: Season when you go for eleven sacks and a Pro Bowl, 453 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 3: what do you feel like click that year? What was 454 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 3: it that Not that you weren't great in the earlier years, 455 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 3: but what was it about the details that finally came together. 456 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 6: I think it was the response, Like again, the responsibility 457 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 6: I started to have with a defense, like a I 458 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 6: just knew it more. I knew where I was supposed 459 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 6: to be. I knew how I did to do my job, 460 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 6: and if I didn't do my I knew how to 461 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 6: get in the place to. 462 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 5: Do my job. I mean I knew. I just knew 463 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 5: a lot. 464 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 6: I just knew a lot more than I did when 465 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 6: I first started. And I feel like that's just a 466 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 6: progression of football, Like the as you play, like people 467 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 6: study you, and as you as they study you got 468 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 6: to continue to recreate your moves and yourself to stay relevant. 469 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 8: Work those hands a little bit more. Yeah, Now the responsibilities, 470 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 8: it's not just go get the quarterback. No, you got 471 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 8: to play the run too, right, I mean, I'm this 472 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 8: is this is an important part of what we're seeing 473 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 8: right now. How Like when you're the instinct of seeing, 474 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 8: seeing what's happening, knowing to play. You did a lot 475 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 8: of studying just to get to that that game. But 476 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 8: then now I'm on the field and I know my responsibility. 477 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 8: I gotta seal this edge, right because then this guy goes. 478 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 6: I believe that was the same year Dewaar had a 479 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 6: lot of just more injuries at you so he didn't 480 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 6: play as much, and so I was put into that 481 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 6: role where I was rushing and having opportunity to just 482 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 6: do more. Yeah, I like when you're if I don't 483 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 6: have to worry about if the quarterbacks passing and running, 484 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 6: then I can just go. I'm all my attentions going 485 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 6: forward all the time, and I don't have to be going. 486 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 4: Back if it's passing. 487 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 6: It changes your whole aggressiveness of your person in the game. 488 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 3: And you know, I think Corey was bringing up how 489 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 3: it's relevant to this Cowboys team. I think too, you 490 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 3: were getting some really good quarterback player from Tony Romo. 491 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 4: Over of course of your time in Dallas. 492 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 3: You're seeing a lot of the same thing with Dak 493 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 3: Prescott nowt here in twenty twenty five. Complimentary football is 494 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 3: what every coach, regardless of level and football is looking 495 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: for in your mind, what goes into it from a 496 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 3: defensive standpoint that needs to happen to capitalize for your offense, 497 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 3: And what did go into it with Tony Back when 498 00:25:58,920 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 3: you were playing. 499 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 6: The turnover battle, I feel like was always the biggest thing, 500 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 6: Like you have to win the turnover battle. When you can't, 501 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 6: I want to say you can't stop people, but when 502 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 6: you are, I don't even know how to explain it. 503 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 6: You have to win a turnover battle, like because like 504 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 6: if you if you're not getting turnover because you're your 505 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 6: team is keeping pace with the other team. Like points wise, yea, 506 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 6: if they score, we score, they score, we score. 507 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 5: We try to just find a spot in there. 508 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 6: Where we could get a field goal or turnover and 509 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 6: give it back to our team so they can get 510 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 6: that points where they're just that now we're up, and 511 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 6: then they're like now the next thing, but there's trailer 512 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 6: and they're still scoring, but it's just at a slower pace, 513 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 6: you know, I. 514 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 7: Mean, and I know it's exactly what you're saying, because 515 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 7: when our defense gave us the ball and I played, 516 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 7: we wanted six. Right to go down and get three 517 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 7: is kind of wasted their time. 518 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 5: So or if they get a major stop, we want 519 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 5: to go down and get six threes. Lose you games. 520 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 7: That's why I'm not a big fan of kickers, but 521 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 7: I'm a big fan. 522 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 5: I'm a big fan of guys that scored touchdowns. 523 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 7: Kickers only have one two things to tie a game 524 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 7: to keep going. I don't need you being a part 525 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 7: of the score escapade. You know what I'm saying. But anyway, 526 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 7: but I know what you're saying, because threes and turnovers, 527 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 7: that's what we that's what we look at. They give 528 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 7: us opportunity and they and we put them in a 529 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 7: bad position by turning the ball and they just only 530 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 7: give up three. That's a victory. Now we need to 531 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 7: go down and get six. We need to go down 532 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 7: there and get that seventh. 533 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 8: Did you play on the team though, They had like 534 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 8: twelve field goals in one game and that's how they 535 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 8: got to win. Which game was that? I can't remember remember? 536 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, maybe that's why. I don't know, but we did. 537 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 5: We had every once in a while exactly we did. 538 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 4: We but just find a way. 539 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you something, man, that was a different 540 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 7: style of game. 541 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 8: It was there. Definitely was right down Vegles was a baser. 542 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a lot like vintage. 543 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 5: That was the Beast. 544 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 3: All right, Well, we're gonna take our second break now, 545 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 3: and when we come back, we're going to keep up 546 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 3: our chat here with former Cowboys Pro Bowl defensive ent 547 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 3: Anthony Spencer taking a look at today's Cowboys and kind 548 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 3: of what we've seen so far as as Nate tries 549 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 3: to swallow the pill that is twelve field goals against 550 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 3: the Eagles and back in a moment here on the 551 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 3: STBBC Cowboys crossed. 552 00:28:23,920 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 9: Off Cowboys, no cowbaws, no Cowboys, no twas. 553 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,479 Speaker 1: To best WBC mortgages. Dallas Cowboys Cross Call. Check us 554 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: out broadcasting live from the Cowboys Club at the Star 555 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: in Frisco. 556 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 4: And welcome back to Cowboys Cross Talk. 557 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 3: Rots you by our friends over at SBVC and also 558 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 3: our friends over at Jack Black. Want to use with 559 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 3: the with the pros use Jack Black is the official 560 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 3: men's skincare brand of the Dallas Cowboys. 561 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 4: Visit get Jack Black dot com. 562 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 3: Today up here at the Cowboys Club at the Star 563 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 3: and Frisco, We've got Nate Newton, three time Super Bowl Champion, 564 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 3: six time Pro Bowler, Corey Majors from one to five 565 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,479 Speaker 3: point three, the fan and our Cowboys alum this evening 566 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 3: her world defensive end Anthony Spencer. Guys, thanks so much 567 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 3: for being here. Let's dive right back into it. We've 568 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 3: got uh let's talk about this week six game for 569 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 3: Dallas and Week five against the Jets. 570 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 4: They get five sacks. 571 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 3: That's as many as they had in the first four games, 572 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 3: and then they play like that against the Panthers, only 573 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 3: get one sack, are failing to get pressure on the quarterback. 574 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 4: Is Nate Newton's trying to wrap his head around it? 575 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 3: Anthony as a defensive player, what do you make of 576 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 3: this Dallas pass rush up to this point, because it 577 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 3: seems like they are struggling to find consistency getting in 578 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 3: the backfield. 579 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 5: Just that. 580 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's and that's I feel like that's 581 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 6: the hardest thing to be in football, is consistent, you 582 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 6: know what I mean, because there are everyone sees who 583 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 6: you are and they're trying to stop you from being 584 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 6: that you. I mean, so it's just just trying to 585 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 6: be consistent, and I feel like that's the hardest thing 586 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 6: to do in this in this league. But you gotta 587 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 6: find some way to try to, you mean, create it 588 00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 6: with pressures, with blitzing or some way. But it has 589 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 6: to be it has to be created somehow, you know. 590 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 5: One of the one of. 591 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 8: The things that Brian brought us says that Reggie White 592 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 8: hated playing against Eric Williams. Yes, because Eric Williams would 593 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 8: do anything it took to defeat him. That day and 594 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 8: when the when you watch this game that Tommy's talking about, 595 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 8: it did feel like I see a play with guid 596 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 8: and throwing a guy on the ground. I was like, 597 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 8: I need more of that right there. That physicality in 598 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 8: the in the trenches is where that starts. And I 599 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 8: and I don't know how you go into a game 600 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 8: on any given Sunday and don't have that. I just 601 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 8: can You'll explain how that happens, or you just get 602 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 8: hit in the mouth and then you don't know how 603 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 8: to respond hits. 604 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 7: And he was at Purdue, right, but Pat big Ten right, 605 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 7: he was bred that way. The game is not bread 606 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 7: that way for every player nowadays. And if you don't 607 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 7: have a couple of those guys that can show you 608 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 7: the way, it's hard. 609 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 5: I mean, we we have who we have. 610 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 7: We have Clark. Clark is not a bona fide pass rush. 611 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 7: He's an a one run stop. But it's it's it's 612 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 7: hard for him because you don't have enough guys coming 613 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 7: and understanding what how to fill their gaps. So uh, 614 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 7: right about now you just have to, like you. 615 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 5: Say, find a way. You know, hey, man, I'm not 616 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 5: gonna be moved out of this a gap. 617 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 7: You know, I may have to give up a little 618 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 7: bit of pass rush to make sure we don't give 619 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 7: up and run, or you know what, I'm just gonna 620 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 7: shoot this gap, but I gotta make the play. 621 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 6: And the Cowboys their their offense is I think one 622 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 6: of the best offenses in the league. 623 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 5: So they practice with each other. 624 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's a big way of trying to better 625 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 6: get better, Right, you. 626 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 5: Get better by playing against each other. 627 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 6: Like our practices that we would have were, like I said, 628 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 6: like we were playing college games. It felt like I 629 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 6: was God damn playing a game after practice. 630 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 5: So it was just hard. 631 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 6: You got to make it hard in practice so when 632 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 6: you get into the games that makes it more easier. 633 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 3: You know, Nate was talking about the run, stopping the 634 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 3: run and filling gaps and things like that. 635 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 4: You know, when they made the Micael Parsons. 636 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 3: Trade, the message was, hey, we can scheme pressure, but 637 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 3: you can't scheme stopping the run. Well, it doesn't seem 638 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 3: like they're doing a great job of stopping the run. 639 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 3: When you look at the linebackers playing right now, it 640 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 3: looks like they're. 641 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 4: As again, Nate is starting to cry over here. 642 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 3: Guys are either shooting the wrong gaps, or they're they're 643 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 3: kind of out of place. It seems like communication is 644 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 3: something that by week six, especially when a lot of 645 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 3: these guys have spent Mini camp and training camp together, 646 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 3: you're more or less on the same page. How do 647 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 3: you fix communication when guys are still maybe not as 648 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 3: confident in what they're seeing and where they're supposed to be. 649 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 6: With that, just being confident in what you're doing and 650 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 6: how you're doing it. Yeah, I mean, like I feel 651 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 6: like once you once I started to know the defense 652 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 6: and what I was doing and how to do it, 653 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 6: I played quick fast. I wasn't thinking about where I 654 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 6: was supposed to be or how want to get there 655 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 6: or any. 656 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 5: Of that stuff. 657 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 6: Like I knew how I was gonna do it, and 658 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 6: I knew I just knew how to execute you, I mean, 659 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 6: and it just comes down to that execution and you. 660 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 5: Just got to exit. 661 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 6: And it's a fight, yeah, I mean, because the other 662 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 6: team is trying to stop you from executing, because like 663 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 6: you have to want to be in that gap more 664 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 6: than the other guy doesn't want you in that gap. 665 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 6: When it comes down through pretty much it's hard though, 666 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 6: I mean, it's hard. 667 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 4: These guys are getting paid. 668 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 3: And you know, physicality too has been something that Brian 669 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 3: Schottenheimer's talked about in terms of aker we're going to 670 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 3: be a physical football team, but he admitted it too. 671 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 3: They were not the more physical football team in Carolina 672 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 3: and it really kind of rare its ugly teeth. 673 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 8: Defensively, he did kind of mention a couple of times 674 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 8: this week playing fast and they want him to play fast. 675 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 8: Do you think they're gonna try and streamline some things differently? 676 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 5: How do you guys feel like what. 677 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 8: They're they're going to do to make these guys be 678 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 8: able to play fast? 679 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 5: Well? 680 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 3: Something that I can lead Anthony into this is, you know, 681 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 3: there's been a conversation of Okay, we need to make 682 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 3: things simpler on defense, right, we need to simplify the 683 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 3: play calls and things like that. And you know, Maddy Reflues' defense, 684 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 3: it's a four to three and when they have been 685 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,240 Speaker 3: playing at their best and it stops to Chicago, Indianapolis 686 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 3: and even when he's a linebackers coaching Dallas, they stopped 687 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 3: the run well and they turned the ball over. They've 688 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 3: won the turnover bat the last three games, but it 689 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 3: hasn't really meant much because they're given four hundred yards 690 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,919 Speaker 3: up on offense. So in terms of how how much 691 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 3: simpler can it get to be able to put guys 692 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 3: in the right position, And does simplicity mean that things 693 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 3: aren't necessarily going to get better? 694 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 5: Uh? 695 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 6: I feel like they will play faster. And when you 696 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 6: like when you're thinking a lot, like when you're out 697 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 6: there and you get up into a block and you're like, oh, 698 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 6: maybe I supposed to be here, like that hesitation or 699 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 6: that little uncertainty, it slows you down. Like in the 700 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 6: game is like seconds, yeah, I mean like three seconds 701 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 6: they have to play is over with you? I mean, 702 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 6: so that little hesitation like that's half the play right there. 703 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 6: So it's just it's like when you simplify it, it 704 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:06,240 Speaker 6: makes you play faster, but you have to execute better, 705 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. 706 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 5: Like the execution has to be perfect, perfect perfect. 707 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 7: These guys offense and DC one as and coordinators are 708 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 7: too smart when when they say, hey man, it's a 709 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 7: four to three guy over the tackle, guy over the guard, 710 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 7: they ain't moving. 711 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 5: They barely running in the games that's run. 712 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 7: Games we've finished, we've been, we've been toa liked them up. 713 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 7: You know a lot of Jets. Jets did not move. 714 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 7: They stayed basic. We at them alive, We out quick them. 715 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 7: We were more confident. You come up to the next team, 716 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 7: they moved a little bit. We didn't move at all, 717 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 7: and it hurt us. We played fast, we played simple. 718 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,959 Speaker 7: But you gotta understand that offensive coordinator was reading us. 719 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 6: Like a book, right, and that and I feel like 720 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,439 Speaker 6: each week in the NFL that what you did last 721 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 6: week is not gonna work the next you know what 722 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 6: I mean, Like, you gotta they're too smart, like you 723 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 6: have to, especially if it worked the week prior, Like 724 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 6: if you did something well that week, the next week, 725 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 6: they're gonna be attacking what you did well. So you 726 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 6: have to find a way to disguise what you're doing 727 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 6: to be able to do it well. Yeah, I mean, 728 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 6: because once they know what you're doing, it's like we 729 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 6: know what place. 730 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 4: To run against. You've got it on tape, right. 731 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 732 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 6: So it's it's a it's a copycat league, but it's 733 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 6: like who can who can make the best adjustments the fastest. 734 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 3: Right, and and in along with it being a copycat league, 735 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 3: you were kind of mentioning it it's a week to 736 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 3: week league where it seems like now there's so much 737 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 3: parody across the board, and Brian Schoenheimer is talking about it, 738 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 3: Jerry Jones is talking about it. Does it seem like 739 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 3: this is as you watch games around the league and 740 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 3: you think back to when you were playing, Does it 741 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 3: seem like this is the most parody this league has 742 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 3: had in a long time. 743 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 6: I would have to say, like it's still I feel 744 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,720 Speaker 6: like it's still early in the in this in the season, 745 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 6: just because what I was just saying, like because teams 746 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,240 Speaker 6: watching other teams and they're preparing. 747 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 5: Like even though you may not be playing. 748 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 6: Against that that team or that week, like you're still 749 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,439 Speaker 6: putting in plays and things getting ready for that team, 750 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 6: you know what I mean? Like, so everybody is getting ready, 751 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 6: like is ready for everybody right now. But once like 752 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 6: you started to get tired and the injuries and the just. 753 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 5: The football start life. 754 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 6: When life starts life and against your team, I mean, 755 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 6: like that's when you're like the it starts to separate, 756 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 6: Like who's gonna have something to lean on, like their foundation? 757 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 6: Who has the strongest foundation, And that's basically who ends 758 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 6: up winning the Super Bowl every year? Like the team 759 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 6: that believes in what they're doing the most and does 760 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 6: it the. 761 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:52,439 Speaker 5: Best and the least amount of injuries. Yeah, right, key, Yeah. 762 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 7: The thing that I see in this league right now, 763 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,760 Speaker 7: the owners, they probably haven't a zoom eating like brother, 764 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 7: we got this thing. We got more four and two 765 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 7: teams and shaking stick at I mean, and so because 766 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 7: I'm teasing these guys, I went on one of their 767 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 7: shows and I'm teasing them all games about their power rankers. 768 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 5: Everybody got all different type power ranks week and week. 769 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 7: It ain't like Okay, it's Kansas City for five straight weeks. Sorry, 770 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 7: it's bubbalover eight straight weeks. It's up and. 771 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 5: Down the camp and is big. I'm liking it. 772 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 7: A lot of people thinking that it's sloppy football. 773 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 5: I don't think so. People are getting better. 774 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 7: They are blocking field goals, blocking extra points. The return 775 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 7: game is better, so people got a shorter distance to go. 776 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 5: The game is exploding. 777 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 7: This is what the fans fought for and want, and 778 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 7: now it looks like sloppy football because if you start 779 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 7: on the fifty or the forty five, most kickers saying hey, 780 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 7: get it to the other guys thirty, I'm you in 781 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,439 Speaker 7: the house them kickers, y'all. 782 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 4: Love, what are you looking at me for? Ever said 783 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 4: anything about pictures? 784 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 6: But I know a lot of a lot of teams 785 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 6: also are just building their teams for other teams. 786 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they know, they know each other so well. 787 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 6: Now it's like they are getting personnel to be able 788 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 6: to combat in their division, in their division. Right, so 789 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 6: you might someone and get whooped outside of division, they 790 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 6: come back and they tie their division. 791 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, either King Kong. 792 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 8: Yeah, Parcels talked about that a lot whenever, whenever. 793 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 5: He was told jim Yeah, he does tell Jimmy that man. Yeah. 794 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna head to our third break, but 795 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 3: before we go, I'm going to pose a question to 796 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 3: the three of you, and we're going to talk about 797 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 3: it when we come back. In addition to Dallas's upcoming 798 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 3: game this week against the Washington Commanders on Sunday in 799 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 3: a week two week league, but the NFL is right now, 800 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 3: we talked about parody. How do you find consistency? How 801 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 3: do you find consistency and how do you build on 802 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 3: it so that you can take being two three and 803 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 3: one like the Cowboys are now and when these games 804 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,720 Speaker 3: get close like they have four out of six times 805 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 3: this year you come out of but win again. That'll 806 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 3: be up next when we return on the s WBC 807 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 3: Cowboys Crosstalk, you get a. 808 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 5: Kicker cli. 809 00:43:12,200 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 9: Co Cowboys, No Cowboys, No Cowboys Tis. 810 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgages, Dallas Cowboys Crosstalk check broadcasting live from the 811 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. 812 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Cowboys Cross Talk here from the Star 813 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 3: and PRIs comick the Cowboys Club, presented by our friends 814 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 3: at STVBC at s TOVVC. 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We posed 825 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 4: a question for you guys. 826 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 3: We talked about a week to week league in the 827 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 3: third segment, the NFL is right now when it's so 828 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 3: weak to week, when things can change on a time. 829 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 4: How do you find consistency? Anthony will start with you. 830 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,360 Speaker 6: Oh, I feel like consistency starts at practice. Like you 831 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 6: have to find it in your daily routine, you know 832 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 6: what I mean, Like in the things that you do 833 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 6: on a day to day basis in the locker room, 834 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 6: out of the locker room, in the weight room, on 835 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 6: the on the practice field, like you gotta be the 836 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 6: same person. Like it starts with there, and once you 837 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 6: kind of started doing that, it kind of trickles along. 838 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 5: Throughout your life. 839 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 8: I feel like the Rangers get Okay, that's that's what 840 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:38,760 Speaker 8: I'm actually gonna use a baseball because when when Bruce 841 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 8: Bochi was here, he was like he was very high 842 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 8: on confidence. And for athletes, I think confidence is such 843 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 8: a big such a big deal, and but you can't 844 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 8: gain confidence going into it. Going man, this is the 845 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 8: most complex thing you've ever seen. Good luck Start small, right, 846 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 8: And we were talking kind of talking about that a 847 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 8: minute ago. Start small with the streamline and the offense, 848 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 8: the defense a little bit, whatever it is. And then 849 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 8: add a little bit here, add a little bit there. 850 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 8: Once these guys start believing there, oh man, I'm unbeatable. 851 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:06,359 Speaker 5: I can do this. 852 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,319 Speaker 8: Yeah, and then you start you continue to stack that 853 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 8: up a little bit. But I think that's that is 854 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 8: you got to confidence is the important part for consistency 855 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 8: because you got to do the small things first and 856 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 8: then you can do more complex things. 857 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 858 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 7: I agree with all of that. You can't add more 859 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,359 Speaker 7: to what these two gentlemen said. I mean, you just 860 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,919 Speaker 7: have the routine I tell every kid, you know, get 861 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 7: up in the morning, stretch, think about what you've done 862 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 7: the day before, whether it was good or bad. 863 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 5: Get rid of the bad if you can, or improve 864 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,280 Speaker 5: on the bad. I enhance your goodness. 865 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 7: Just be consistent in who you are, you know, and 866 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 7: that and that's what I think Coach Schottenheimer is trying 867 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,240 Speaker 7: to do. He's trying to be consistent and what he's doing, 868 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 7: what he's preaching. But we've seen it offensively. But he's 869 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 7: the master over all of this. He is to coordinate 870 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,840 Speaker 7: over the offense any defense, So he's gonna be irresponsible 871 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 7: for his defense. He's got to find a way him 872 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 7: and coach Eva Flues to get guys like you say, 873 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 7: believe it in the little things, doing the extra. This 874 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,280 Speaker 7: is not college. You don't have no classes. Your wife, 875 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:13,720 Speaker 7: your kids, and everybody got. 876 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 5: Understand this is how I eat. 877 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,840 Speaker 7: Let me get this going for this next two or 878 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 7: three months and we'll do go party, we'll go vacation wherever. 879 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 7: But right now we need you. Daddy needs to work. 880 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 7: Daddy got blue off the line twenty yards. Daddy needs 881 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:31,280 Speaker 7: to work. 882 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 883 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 3: Some tough at home conversations going on insight. 884 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,359 Speaker 5: Not tonight. Baby, Dad's got to work. 885 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:42,879 Speaker 8: Film work, extra, film work. 886 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:44,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. 887 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,480 Speaker 4: I can't even transition from that. 888 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,720 Speaker 3: So the Cowboys have Washington coming up this week, Anthony, 889 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 3: do you remember any games or players that you went 890 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,720 Speaker 3: against and your playing days that stood out from them? 891 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,360 Speaker 6: For Washington, U, I mean we played them twice a 892 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 6: year and RG I remember Clinton Portis was there. Nice nice, Yeah, coolies. 893 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 6: He had a good tight end. They've always had. They've 894 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 6: always had a good offense. I'd say they always had 895 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 6: someone that scores touchdown. 896 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, well they've got another one this year and Jaden Daniels, 897 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 3: the second year quarterback. 898 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 4: They got the third best. 899 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 3: Rushing offense in the league, and you think about this 900 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 3: Dallas defense so far because they oh no. 901 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 5: Oh no. 902 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 3: But when you look back to last year Dallas did 903 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,479 Speaker 3: I think, and you guys correct me if I'm wrong, 904 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 3: one of the better jobs defensively and kind of limiting 905 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,239 Speaker 3: his game. How do they find that same success when 906 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 3: they're having the defensive struggles they are. 907 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 6: I feel like just the fact that they're playing against Washington, 908 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 6: like when they never played New York, they played Washington, 909 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 6: they played the Eagles. They're going to play you know. 910 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 6: I mean, it's just like how everybody gets up for 911 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 6: the Cowboys, like everybody's going to give the Cowboys a 912 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 6: good game because they're the Cowboys. And I feel the 913 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 6: same way with the Cowboys inside of their division because 914 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 6: it all like for a long time, the everything went 915 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 6: through the East, so it was like that was the passageway. 916 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:13,359 Speaker 6: So I feel like they're gonna they're gonna brain their 917 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 6: a game just because of the way that they lost, 918 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 6: and even like when I'll be watching the Cowboys now, 919 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 6: like I feel like it's the change, some change is 920 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,439 Speaker 6: starting to happen, just because of the way the fight 921 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 6: that they have, like they I feel like they know 922 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,640 Speaker 6: that they're outmanned or they know that they're not the 923 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 6: oh like the top dog as they have been in 924 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 6: the past. So it's like they're trying to prove themselves. 925 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 6: And I feel like that's very very important for especially 926 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 6: the defense that they have now, Like are guys that 927 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,400 Speaker 6: really don't you don't know any of them, So it's like, 928 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 6: you have this opportunity to be known, and you have 929 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 6: this the field and these play all you gotta do 930 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 6: is make plays, and like that's what that's what. 931 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,360 Speaker 5: You grow up as a kid wanted to do. 932 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,760 Speaker 6: And I feel like the opportunity at the Cowboys defense 933 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 6: has right now, it's like wide open for superstars to happen, 934 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. 935 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 5: But they have to want that and believe that they 936 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,359 Speaker 5: can be that, you know I. 937 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 6: Mean, But that's it's a long process. 938 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,840 Speaker 8: I can't wait for the rest of this team to 939 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,359 Speaker 8: play with the mentality that I see Dak playing with 940 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,359 Speaker 8: right now. Dak looked from Game one this year, he's 941 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 8: just looked more confident. He has this different swagger. I 942 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,919 Speaker 8: mean the spit moment against Philadelphia, that was a moment 943 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,799 Speaker 8: right there where he knew he just I got you. 944 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,879 Speaker 8: I just I just I got you out of the game. 945 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 8: I just did that. And he just has this confidence, 946 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 8: and I'm I can't wait for the rest of the 947 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 8: group to have that same kind of vibe, because going in, 948 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 8: going to having Washington on your plate is you gotta 949 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 8: you know, you got a tough, a tough defense that 950 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 8: you gotta handle because they're gonna bring it at you. 951 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 8: But on the other side of the ball too, you know, 952 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 8: their offense can be explosive. Now, Jerry told us last 953 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 8: year the Kingsbury's offense is kind of predictable, and I 954 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 8: was like, I'm sorry, I gotta this hold on what 955 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 8: and but then the Cowboys went out and stopped him, 956 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 8: and so I was like, Okay, this is pretty impressive. 957 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 8: But the I want to see, uh do we know 958 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:05,280 Speaker 8: the help. 959 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,280 Speaker 3: Of McLaurin yet was limited today in practice, our first 960 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 3: time he's practiced. 961 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 4: I think in a couple of weeks. He's missed the 962 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 4: last three games. 963 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 8: Okay, all right, that's that's one right there. That dude 964 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,879 Speaker 8: right there can burn, man, he can absolutely burn, yes, 965 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 8: But but this could it's still gonna be one of 966 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 8: those battles. 967 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 5: You know, you guys know right well, you always have 968 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:22,799 Speaker 5: to play the game. 969 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 6: That's what I love about football, Like you can be 970 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 6: better than whoever you on paper, like everybody you can 971 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 6: say whatever on paper, but when the game has actually 972 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,279 Speaker 6: been played, like you don't know what's going through anybody's mind, 973 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 6: Like everybody has to show up. You gotta be you 974 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 6: gotta be there every day. 975 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 5: So that's agree. 976 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 3: And you know, I think it's interesting you mentioned that 977 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,279 Speaker 3: the Cowboys are a team that everybody kind of gets 978 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 3: up for, right for sure? 979 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,439 Speaker 4: Player a game was as a player for you and Nate, 980 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 4: does it like, come on, they costed it? 981 00:53:55,600 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 7: Did you say thanks many, thanks, Bob Lily, Yeah, point there? 982 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 4: What's it like? 983 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,320 Speaker 3: You know that is obviously that I can only imagine 984 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 3: how taxing that is when you have sixteen straight games, 985 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 3: seventeen straight games of man, we're just getting everybody's best shot. 986 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 4: Does it make the wins that much sweeter? 987 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 5: I believe so, yes, Because. 988 00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,799 Speaker 6: Everybody talks about the Cowboys when they win or when 989 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 6: they lose, But when we're winning, it's a lot positive, 990 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,879 Speaker 6: Like everybody wants to hear the positive stuff, but it's 991 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,280 Speaker 6: it makes the journey throughout the season funner. 992 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean when whenning is fun, is fun when 993 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:37,760 Speaker 5: it is funny. 994 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 8: But everybody, everybody knows that if they have the interception 995 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 8: or the sack or whatever against the Cowboys, they're gonna 996 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 8: be on Sports Center all week because every topic is 997 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 8: gonna be the Cowboy Cowboys. 998 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 6: And I feel like that's very important for the Cowboys 999 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 6: players to know too, because if they're the ones making 1000 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,520 Speaker 6: those plays and doing it out and doing that, like, 1001 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,279 Speaker 6: they could be the ones being talked about as well. 1002 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 3: So well, Anthony will close with this, you know, well, 1003 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 3: to keep it on these Cowboys. We mentioned you're playing 1004 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,279 Speaker 3: days with Tony when he was playing some of his 1005 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 3: best football. 1006 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 4: How did the capitalize? 1007 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,200 Speaker 3: How did the Cowboys capitalize on the way Dak Prescott's 1008 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:10,839 Speaker 3: playing right now? 1009 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,319 Speaker 6: Got to win the turnover battle, man, Just get get 1010 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 6: them the ball one two times throughout the game, get 1011 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 6: a field goal when they're put when they're about to 1012 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 6: score a touchdown, Like just show up one two plays. 1013 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 6: That's really all it takes, you know, I mean, like 1014 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 6: one two plays throughout the game. With the defense makes 1015 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 6: a play, it could turn the whole game around. 1016 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 8: But only a field goal to win it, right, They like, 1017 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:37,160 Speaker 8: I'm gonna. 1018 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,279 Speaker 5: Go to tide to keep it going. He'll go to 1019 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,360 Speaker 5: win it and close it out. If you're doing anything else, 1020 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:45,279 Speaker 5: there's a waste of time. 1021 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 4: Well, we've got our kicker, yea with us tonight. 1022 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 5: I used to kick in high school? 1023 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 4: Oh really? 1024 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1025 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 4: How'd that go? 1026 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,880 Speaker 5: Not too good? All right? 1027 00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,360 Speaker 4: Anthony? Were he a kicker in high school? Play on 1028 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:01,160 Speaker 4: the offensive side of that? 1029 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,439 Speaker 5: I was a running back in high school. Yeah. Yeah. 1030 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 6: My senior year, I'm still in the record books. I 1031 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,280 Speaker 6: averaged nine point one yards. 1032 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 5: Are wow? All year? I played full back? All right. 1033 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 5: One time I had a chance to go a touchdown. 1034 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 5: The quarterback did the quarterbacks itself? 1035 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 3: Yeah all right, Well maybe maybe one day we'll see 1036 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,480 Speaker 3: the backfield of Nate Newton and Anthony Spencer. 1037 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,520 Speaker 5: S gattu boo shatu boo. 1038 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 3: For now, that'll do it for us here on Cowboys 1039 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 3: Cross Talk and anybody friends over at STVBC. 1040 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:38,399 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for. 1041 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 3: Joining us tonight for Corey Majors, Nate Newton, all right, 1042 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 3: incredible guest, Anthony Spencer and all the folks in the 1043 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 3: back Devin Gray Ivans Andia Yasmin and Shannon Allison Ramirez 1044 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 3: and Paul the studas I'm Tommy Yard. 1045 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 4: Good night. 1046 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 5: This has been production