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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast will host the two thousand

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft at Mark's rental property from the Chris Westling

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Speaker 1: podcast studio. It's Around the NFL. I'm Dan Hansis. I

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Speaker 1: got some heroes here, Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler, And wow,

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Speaker 1: what a to The draft week is off to a

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Speaker 1: flying start. We had our sandwich props, m J d

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Speaker 1: came in. Then Cavon Thibodeaux potentially a top five pick

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Speaker 1: in the draft. He shows up out of nowhere. We

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Speaker 1: talk about Erica and her future. That was a major

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Speaker 1: moment in the podcast recent history, and Greg, we're just

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Speaker 1: getting started because that was all just an appetizer, like

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Speaker 1: Erica's future. Okay, great, Like that's cool. But now we're

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Speaker 1: talking mock draft with potential number one overall pick, like

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest Jaguars of the all time. Whatever.

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Speaker 1: How about the greatest mock draft in the history of

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Speaker 1: mock drafters. It's Mark Sessler. The moment is yours marked,

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Speaker 1: The floor is about to be yours. No one is

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Speaker 1: going to get in your way, no one will be

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Speaker 1: talking over you. This is your moment to shine. It

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Speaker 1: is the two thousand twenty two Mark Sessler mock draft.

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Speaker 1: And I know you're excited. It's been an incredible process, um.

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Speaker 1: One that I you know, you think, oh, of just

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Speaker 1: it's a road activity. We've done this before, just follow

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Speaker 1: you know, paint by numbers. Well, this year has been

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Speaker 1: very different. Um. You know, I have had to change

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Speaker 1: the way that I approached this and I've done that.

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Speaker 1: And we'll tell you that. You know, of course, like

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Speaker 1: like a mitochondria or something, there's a lot of osmosis. Um.

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Speaker 1: You're you're hearing different information for months. Um. Some from

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Speaker 1: you know, well established birds inside of buildings, sparrows, sparrows, um.

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Speaker 1: Some not from those sources, not NFL buildings to be clear,

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Speaker 1: just actually just buildings, civic buildings. That's where they come

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Speaker 1: to government buildings, local government, right. And I will say

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Speaker 1: one differentiating factor in years past, I would build out

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Speaker 1: my mock draft um over the course of days, which

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Speaker 1: is a little different than the lands eer lines of

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Speaker 1: the world. The Daniel jeremiahs who actually the process begins

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Speaker 1: the previous year. It's sharply different. But you are more

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Speaker 1: a less is more seven minute abs approach to the

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Speaker 1: mock draft economical. And I think that so I really

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Speaker 1: wanted to peak that the difference there, so this time around,

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Speaker 1: before adding any player to Team X, Y and Z,

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Speaker 1: I just said, I'm going to learn everything I can,

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Speaker 1: and I decided to begin the process. It is right

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Speaker 1: now in Los Angeles about PM. I began this process

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Speaker 1: putting name to paper at three thirty three AM. When

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Speaker 1: I set my alarm, I slept on the couch not

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Speaker 1: disrupt family. I had the laptop poised on a on

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Speaker 1: a cushion right near my head, and the minute that

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Speaker 1: the alarm went off, I began the process. Alarm was

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Speaker 1: from the laptop, well from my phone, you know, setting

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Speaker 1: it like at three paying a picture for sure? Do

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Speaker 1: you turn the lights on or no? No? I lied

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Speaker 1: under a large comforter and just the light of the laptop.

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Speaker 1: Sterry coffee and he like extra. No, You're in a

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Speaker 1: whole different time, You're in a different mental. I guess

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Speaker 1: what it sounds like you're saying is that we're down

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Speaker 1: to about two minute abs now. Where your day of

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Speaker 1: fifty six or whatever? Is this just the top thirty two?

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Speaker 1: Where are we at top thirty two. But I've added

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Speaker 1: nature this time, something that I am called at the

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Speaker 1: end of that first round. Ten locks. It's that simple

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Speaker 1: plus ten locks, ten other ten of the things that

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Speaker 1: will happen in this draft that are of notable, either newsworthy,

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Speaker 1: you know you have to cut through the noise. It's

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Speaker 1: like people trying to start a podcast. You have to

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Speaker 1: figure out how to cut through the noise with you

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Speaker 1: having your own mock draft millions of others and now

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Speaker 1: you have this subcategory maybe ten locks. Maybe could workshop that,

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Speaker 1: maybe we could give that thing a little panache, a

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Speaker 1: little sizzle. That's something to think about. It was about

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Speaker 1: that subtitle, so that yes, that we could work on

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Speaker 1: get through the mock. Well, actually I started doing the

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Speaker 1: math that he got this. I started working on my

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Speaker 1: ten locks um while Greg and I are like red

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Speaker 1: stringing this down and figure out how time you actually

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Speaker 1: put into So let's do it. The two Mark Sessler

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Speaker 1: mock draft. And remember the stakes here, remember the stakes.

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Speaker 1: Mark doesn't have to hit all thirty two, but he

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Speaker 1: does have to beat Josh Norris of the Underdog Network,

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Speaker 1: who set a record with sixteen out of thirty two

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Speaker 1: last year. He's not doing sixteen this year. We know

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Speaker 1: of what we're going for. We want. We're looking for

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Speaker 1: you to hit nine or ten. Take out Norris. He

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Speaker 1: has a mihicle, but he gets humbled. You rise up

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Speaker 1: in the industry. We need ten out of thirty two?

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Speaker 1: Can you give us that? I hope so, and I

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Speaker 1: point for my employer to actually put it on our website.

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Speaker 1: It's true, It's true. It does bother you. Um the

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Speaker 1: m j D. Like he's just he's a good guy.

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Speaker 1: He was a great guest. It's like he's not a

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Speaker 1: draft expert necessarily. Wait a second, no, I think that

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Speaker 1: I think that the last could be okay, Mr I

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Speaker 1: in that. Uh that under the ledger, But in this case,

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Speaker 1: unnecessary for a former guest, Mark let's get going again.

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Speaker 1: Ten is the goal. But we have to remember, and

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Speaker 1: I did check out the I did check out your

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Speaker 1: factional I wouldn't call to split, but there's different opinions

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Speaker 1: I think shod Khan is preferring in favor of Trayvon Walker. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so Trayvon Walker out of Georgia. And then around out

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Speaker 1: of Malik Wills. Willis going from Liberty to the Lions. Right.

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Speaker 1: That was my mark draft Mark and mock very lock draft.

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Speaker 1: I think Sauce Gardner is if you're the Houston Texans,

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Speaker 1: you're looking at someone who has years and years of production.

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Speaker 1: He can play press, he can play his zone. I

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Speaker 1: get that it may not be the number one. This

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Speaker 1: how Greg's tone is gonna be during this, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be like I'm kicking him Taylor and Maurice Jones Jew

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Speaker 1: circa two thousand fifteen. Yeah, because Lovey it's like a

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Speaker 1: little bit more of a zone thing and Stingley some

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Speaker 1: I think it's good at this point to also factor

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Speaker 1: in and remember that Mark's mock draft represents us as well.

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Speaker 1: So what we're trying to do is raise Mark up.

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Speaker 1: We don't want to expose Mark, which I think was great.

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Speaker 1: Guys are weird. I've been raising market mock up this

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Speaker 1: whole time. What I want is, all right, Stinky Davis,

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Speaker 1: I know what you were doing our listeners. I want

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Speaker 1: them to learn. And I know that maybe Mark hasn't

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Speaker 1: All right. It was a good answer. Now. We talked

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Speaker 1: it's another quarterback, Mark and I'll see you up that way.

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Speaker 1: So this, uh, if this happened, I don't see another

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Speaker 1: I did this trade here at number seven? It's aggressive.

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Speaker 1: Ozzie Newsom did it with Lamar Jackson famously that he's

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Speaker 1: a legacy pick and if and if he flames out,

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Speaker 1: But can make people remember you went out on a stinker.

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Speaker 1: so at number ten, that's where we thought the Jets

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Speaker 1: they might go get their wide receiver. Instead, the Jets

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Speaker 1: manufacture a monster trade with the Seattle Seahawks or DK

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Speaker 1: Metcalf a sure thing. A lot of these rookie white

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Speaker 1: always seem to get like the future all pro that

425
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Speaker 1: falls way too far, and that seems to be where

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Speaker 1: linder Bomb might go because he's a center and there's

427
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Speaker 1: not a lot of center need Zion Johnson. But I

428
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Speaker 1: got a zero in on your trade to end this thing.

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Speaker 1: The Saints getting Desmond Ritter in it, unbel what a

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Speaker 1: way to finish you better styles. And if you want

431
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Speaker 1: to like a little bit of like how does the

432
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Speaker 1: first round sausage get you want to take a quarterback

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Speaker 1: at thirty two? If you have that need, you get

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Speaker 1: that extra year of control as a first round pick.

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Speaker 1: I will I'll spin it into another reason why the Lions,

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Speaker 1: who you know they need to look for their quarterback

437
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,959
Speaker 1: as well, they did something rather cunning here, I mean,

438
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Speaker 1: or I project them to. They allowed the Saints to

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Speaker 1: get back into number thirty two and take Ridder who

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Speaker 1: who gives the Saints that quarterback who they might have

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Speaker 1: taken higher up, but he's fallen to them, which I

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Speaker 1: think is which they like, and they're willing to move

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Speaker 1: up for him. But the Lions in one of my locks,

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Speaker 1: I'll just tell you right now in round two at

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Speaker 1: number thirty four, tike Matt Corral because they don't have

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Speaker 1: to pay that. They don't have that first round money

447
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Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Now you don't get the first

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Speaker 1: you don't get the fifth year option either. But that's

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Speaker 1: that's that tricky for some teams. They're willing to take

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Speaker 1: him in round two. That's that's quite a risk. I

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Speaker 1: guess they would have to be confident that the Saints

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Speaker 1: weren't taking Ridder, I mean Corral at thirty two. But

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Speaker 1: I like that the Lions just picking up picks, making

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Speaker 1: other gms look like fools, exactly fools. And it kind

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Speaker 1: of makes sense because the Saints and the Lions have

456
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Speaker 1: a lot of shared DNA. Dan Campbell was in New

457
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: Orleans for a long Aaron Glenn was there, and so

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Speaker 1: I think they would get along, maybe the type of

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Speaker 1: teams that would make a trade. All right, this is

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Speaker 1: this is so, there's the there's the first round and

461
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: again you can get it on Twitter, Instagram all over.

462
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, Bucks fans, you didn't say our pick,

463
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Speaker 1: it's Dax Hill. It's Dax Hills and any other fans

464
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Speaker 1: of teams that we didn't mention tough luck. Just simply,

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Speaker 1: you know, travel the online labyrinths to find this highway

466
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Speaker 1: past on Instagram the a t N. Let's do a

467
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Speaker 1: little ten o'clock to light for Mark Sessler's locks. Go ahead, Mark,

468
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Speaker 1: run down the list. Alright, Baker Mayfield to the Seahawks

469
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Speaker 1: for a fourth rounder is what will happen after all?

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Speaker 1: This business ends after the draft, after the draft pick.

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Speaker 1: I mean that once we know that they're not taking

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. Deebo Samuel not traded, a j Brown not traded.

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Speaker 1: I already mentioned the Lions corral. Can I just yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm not buying. I think Deebo could still be on

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Speaker 1: the move. I think you will be traded. But Wells

476
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Speaker 1: are saying clearly we're not trading. They're not. They don't see,

477
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: don't know the Niners actually hold the cards. I just

478
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: went with my feelings on that. Um, the Titans will

479
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Speaker 1: move into Chicago's spot at number nine and take Sam

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Speaker 1: Howell quarterback in a trade. The Jets in round two

481
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Speaker 1: take Nakobe Dean linebacker round of Georgia. I love his

482
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Speaker 1: feet and a really good vendor. Then Gang Green, I

483
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Speaker 1: love this for them. Three picks later at number thirty eight.

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Speaker 1: Take Tyler Smith, offensive tackle who surprisingly slipped out of

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Speaker 1: round one. Like that, a little son the Jets a

486
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Speaker 1: little well, you know, currying favor to some degree. It's

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Speaker 1: also that this is a lot of draft value for

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Speaker 1: a gang. It's a huge draft for them. The Cults,

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Speaker 1: we know they need a wide receiver. I think they

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Speaker 1: get value at round at round two, at number forty

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Speaker 1: two at a sky More out of Western Michigan, and

492
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Speaker 1: then Cleveland in a trade with the g Men, move

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Speaker 1: up to number thirty six and take Georgia wide receiver

494
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Speaker 1: George Pickens. How do you feel about that? Mark? I

495
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 1: will observe it, and I already you know, there's very

496
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Speaker 1: little feeling and just think it's a it might be

497
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: a test. There's a test, you've passed it, this whole thing.

498
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Speaker 1: But I feel like Pickens might if he was healthy,

499
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Speaker 1: he had a torn a c L that he missed

500
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: most last year, he might be the number one wide

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Speaker 1: receiver in this class. Well, I mean, and meanwhile, and

502
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: I know it's a new brain trust, but it just

503
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: goes to show you, like the Giants what a free

504
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: fall like they're shopping Cadarius Tony just drafted him in

505
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Speaker 1: the first round last year. Now you're trying to trade him.

506
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: It's just like he looked. I know he didn't produce

507
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,479
Speaker 1: that much, but he moves more like he moves more like.

508
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: Everyone always compares people to Tyreek Hill, and it's always stupid,

509
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: I think, but Caldarius Tony moves more like Tyreek Hill

510
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Speaker 1: in the way that he just moves different and more

511
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: explosive and faster than all the NFL players around him,

512
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Speaker 1: more than almost anyone I've seen since. There's a lot

513
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Speaker 1: of red flags there. But man, I think if you're

514
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, you'd be like a team like that were

515
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Speaker 1: bigger red flags that I re kill. I mean that

516
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: that makes me think maybe if the Giants are desperate

517
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: to turn the page, perhaps they could secure Tony and

518
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: and see if he can play the guitar. I read

519
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: that Tony was back with the Giants now and doing

520
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: things with them, and I don't know, he's back lifting

521
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: weights and whatnot. I like what you did, though, Mark

522
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: m just playing the game. In terms of the mocks,

523
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 1: you had a lot of very specific player team combos.

524
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: No one's gonna expect you to nail those. But when

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Speaker 1: you happen to hit on one of them. Let's say, Na,

526
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: Kobe Dean goes to the Jets. You just highlight that,

527
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: you put it out on Twitter, copy paste, passive income

528
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: see in September. That's called a mailbox money scissor, great job, Mark,

529
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: excellent work on the mock draft. And remember the goals

530
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Speaker 1: on thirty two out of thirty two. Nobody does it.

531
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: But if you can just get nine or ten and

532
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: take out Norris, who is the Who's the king? You

533
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: know what? What did it call? He's the He's the

534
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: king of mountain or the mountain. If you could take

535
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: him out, you will be on top. Then I become

536
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: that you are that person. I think it's a good

537
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: thing to me. I think one of the two sounded

538
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: better than the other. Bys. Yes, you're the one. You

539
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: are Also though, if you lose to him, you could

540
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: be replaced by him just during draft season. But you

541
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: know it could just be like, hey, let's get Norris

542
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: more in the mid That's on my mind too. That's

543
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: why I again, I put a solid I mean I

544
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: really put a solid hour plus into this overall exercise.

545
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: All right, good stuff? Any other questions Greg you have now?

546
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: I I want I want to hear more was what

547
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: was happening by five thirty am, Because at that point

548
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: you're you're locked and loaded, um and you just got

549
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: some time to kill in a dark house. But I wrapped,

550
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: I wrapped the exercise by then fell into like R

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Speaker 1: E M sleep and had a dream that I is

552
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: falling off a building. So and and one last note again, Greg,

553
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: this is building the brand. It's not just the Mark brand. Absolutely,

554
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: it reflects on all of us. If Mark goes one

555
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: gets one right, the whole podcast looks like, hell, we need,

556
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: we want that, we need. You're you're carrying us on

557
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: some level through this draft process. Um, so your win

558
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: is our win and your loss is gonna Remember I

559
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: don't love the sound of that Mark. The two sets

560
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: of no footprints and all a sudden one set of

561
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: foot Prince Jesus, where'd you go? Oh bro? That was

562
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: those are my I was carrying. That's you right now,

563
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm carrying you or you're carrying me the draft carrying

564
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: both of you. That you or or you drop us

565
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: right in the falter. Well, we'll find out what happens,

566
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: all right, we'll circle back on Saturday, all right. I

567
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: mean I love I love steaks are skylie maybe they're

568
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: they're huge? Are you awaken? Wiggling around in my arms

569
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: where you just sort of like sack of potatoes over

570
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: each Whatever is going on in your rd cycle is

571
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: what's happening. My favorite thing about this mock is like

572
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: on Thursday evening, when you know, before Draftwick, we're like, oh,

573
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do for Draftwick? I was like, oh, yeah,

574
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: We've par accessor and then a little double dip for

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Speaker 1: the ages. The other thing that happens, We're like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: Spice Rack coming up next. Stay tuned, welcome back, joining

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Speaker 1: us now from the West side of Cincinnati. It's a

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00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: tradition like no other. Some people call him Bradley Allen Spicer.

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00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: Some people my no m is Spice Underscore Rack, Underscore

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Speaker 1: m D. But we know the man is Spice Rack

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00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: and he's back with his draft predictions. What's up, Spicy, gentlemen.

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00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: It's good to see you, Spicy Spicy. It is great

583
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: to see you. You're on the Skype. You're the only

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Speaker 1: guest we've ever had in Skype that's clapped to get

585
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: fired up multiple times before we fired. Of course, you're

586
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: a long time old friend of our great friend Chris

587
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: Wesley and we're here in the Wesleyan Podcast studio and

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00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: you were the original Desert Consigliari. And now the draft

589
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: is in Las Vegas, you're old home and you're in Cincinnati.

590
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: I feel like that that's not right there. I feel

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00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: like I feel like it's not right either. I would

592
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Speaker 1: love to be hosting you guys around about now. Can

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Speaker 1: I make one one note that Spicy is getting more handsome?

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00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: Hard to argue, I'll leave it right there. I just

595
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: I'm noticing that it looks good. We've mentioned many times

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Speaker 1: that the first time meeting Spice Rack was disarming because

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00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: he's like a six ft five guy with nice head

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00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: of salty salt gray hair. It's it's it's a whole thing.

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00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: Maybe now not not when we first met. It's been

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Speaker 1: coming on like a freight train, salt on top of

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Speaker 1: pepper from what I'm seeing. Yeah, but in a in

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00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: a good way. All right, Spicy, Before we get into

603
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: because you love the college game and you know it

604
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: at a level that we can't even begin to fathom.

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00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: But I do want to just touch base about the

606
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: lead up to the super Bowl and your beloved Bengals

607
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: and nearly taking the Lombardi home and also you making

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00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: um almost like a threat that you better be on

609
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: the podcast that didn't come to fruition. Are there any

610
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: hard feelings on the spice racks towards the pod? Yes, absolutely,

611
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: they're only directed at you. I was gonna ask and

612
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: Adam shocked you had the nerve to bring it up

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00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: right now. But yes, of course I'm upset. Of course

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00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: I would think, how about this? There's no excuse, isn't

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00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: this isn't like the old days when it's a week

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Speaker 1: you know between championship game super Bowl? Could have found

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00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: some time for spice And can I just throw and out?

618
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Speaker 1: I had angles? Who do you? Who do you text with?

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Speaker 1: By far the most with on this uh? Right here

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Speaker 1: at this table? Uh? All right? So we got Triple

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Speaker 1: G first, no doubt, no doubt about it. Uh Sess

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Speaker 1: Thesessman is next, and you are non existent aside from

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Speaker 1: aside from baseball postseason. I feel like that's the only

624
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: connection I have outside. So if you and I have

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00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: less of a connection, then Greg and Mark, why is

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00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: it than my fault? Your buddy Greggy? Who you guys

627
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: are constantly going back and forth about things that I

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00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: don't even want to know about. Uh read between the

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Speaker 1: lines and that why isn't he taking the reins and

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00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: making sure you get on the super fairy fair point?

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Speaker 1: Why why am I taking the heat when your actual

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00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: buddy Greggy didn't make sure it happened. I'll tell you

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00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: why because when I when I threw it out there

634
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: about nine seconds after the Bengals beat the Chiefs in

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Speaker 1: the FC Championship game, you know, the most early and

636
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Speaker 1: on time and ahead of schedule I've ever been in

637
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 1: my entire life. I reached out and you you you

638
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: squashed it immediately. It's true. I mean it. He said

639
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: that to the group, and you squashed it immediately. It

640
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: was over. How about this? How about this? I bet

641
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: I can. Let's let's scroll back. I love the fire

642
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: inside of Spicy. It is h a door, I mean,

643
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 1: not a door, but Dan like Dan while there, Dan,

644
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: bring that up right now, I got I'm I'm looking

645
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: at it right now. He's trying to throw you off

646
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: your game to make your happened. It says that this

647
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 1: is Spice Rack. Minutes after the Bengals shocked the world

648
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: to advance the Super Bowl spice Rack demanding thirty minutes

649
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: segment on Bengal Slash West between now and Super Bowl

650
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: fifty six or delete my contact info. And I responded,

651
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: we can promise you the Bengals will get extensive coverage

652
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: across the next two weeks. At no point, at no

653
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: point that I said that you would not be nonsense.

654
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: Is that I'm not gonna beg What do you think?

655
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: This is the most important thing in my life. It

656
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: is a trash response. But you demand. But but I thought,

657
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: and I thought for sure I had a lot to offer.

658
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: Let's be real. I wanted by Eddie Brown Jersey to school,

659
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: you know, right before the Bengals lost Super Bowl twenty three.

660
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: I offer some perspective here. You need to go answer

661
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: the landline in fairness, though we're all adults here, Dan,

662
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: that was we're all adults. That was as nice of

663
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: a slap down as possible by you. It was. It

664
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: was honestly open it. Or Mark, your beloved Mark ever

665
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: said hey, let's get spicy on the show. I at

666
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: no point didn't even come up. Mark is not to

667
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: blame on this in this situation. That's because I saw

668
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: I saw the slap that I was like, dang, damn

669
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: went Dan went hard immediately. And by the way, not

670
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,959
Speaker 1: stepping into you're asking, does the old user mind wearing

671
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: the black hat? I do not mind wearing the black hat.

672
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: If you want me to be the you will be

673
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: the bad guy. But I will tell you that favorite

674
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: thing in the whole world to be by no means

675
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: that I want you not to be involved with that show.

676
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 1: It just wasn't an option because we were on Radio

677
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: Row all week. It was just there was never really

678
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: a window. And guess right now right not spicy guest,

679
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 1: you didn't start the podcast last week? Why do you say?

680
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: And what goes on? Spicy? Spicy, bring in the room.

681
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: But let me say this, Spicy, if the bengt left

682
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: guard from Boston College, if the Bengals get that stop,

683
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 1: if the Bengals get that stop in l A, you're

684
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: on the show super Bowl Night, I promise you, I

685
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: swear on the lives of my children. You're on that show,

686
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I might have been too drunk

687
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: for broadcast, right That's it's part of the reason why

688
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: I might not demand his demand. When I read it,

689
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: I I figured it was from a man who had

690
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: been enjoying, uh, the greatest win in in Cincinnati sports

691
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: and in quite a long time. And Spicy, just to

692
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: put it just the underline, it here bumming me out

693
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: season for the ages and the ages and this is

694
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: I think your fifth appearance on the Draft Show. And

695
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: we love Avenue every year. That's that could not be true. Now,

696
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 1: let's transition. Let's no I'm saying no, no, I'm saying

697
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: that in terms of year, I've been doing a lot

698
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: more than five years. Really, time flies, well, the Melvin

699
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: Gordon years when we started that so well, you was

700
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: at sixteen. I trust Spicy on this front. I don't know.

701
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: All right, a lot more show, please, all right, let's

702
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 1: get into it, Spicy. I want to know the other thing.

703
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: I'd much rather talk to Cessler alone. I've said that

704
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: for a long time, man, I mean it, Let's get

705
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: into the draft prospects. But go for it. We can

706
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: keep texting. This is a disaster right now, and it's

707
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: not on you. It is not on you hanging their spa.

708
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: Give us the guy you're standing on the table for first,

709
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: among all these draft prospects that Spicy is higher on

710
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: than anyone. I could sit this out if you guys

711
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: want me to leave and you guys get handled. I

712
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: don't think that you're sitting this out. You've we've but

713
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: plenty of real estate on your concern going forward. I could,

714
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: I could excuse myself. No, I'd love to say, take

715
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: a hike right now, but I know how you get

716
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: me back. Give us the name, give us who are

717
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: you starting with? Spices? Come out strong? Well, I'll say

718
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: that Greg, you know already sort of Uh, you mentioned

719
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: my my strongest take and but you know, as far

720
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: as the ritter thing, and I don't want to. It's

721
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: much more fun to talk about guys. You believe in positive,

722
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: Let's go positive. I know you know that's that's fine.

723
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: You're a Cincinnati guy, st you've watched him a ton,

724
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: and you're not a fan. Let's go positive. Who do

725
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: you like? Well, if we're talking, if we're talking quarterback,

726
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 1: I think there's one that's clearly ahead of everyone else,

727
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: and that's Matt Correll, clear clearly ahead of everyone else. Um.

728
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: Obviously the class isn't great, and um between my leak

729
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: will it's his arm strength and athleticism. He's worth a

730
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: shot for for a franchises going nowhere. Um. He I

731
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: mean he's you know, he's he's a much better athlete

732
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: than say like Jalen Hurts, and Jalen Hurt is a

733
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: very good athlete, you know. I mean Malik Willis can

734
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: really move and he's got a stronger arm, and he'll

735
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: probably lead the league in interceptions. Not trying to pile

736
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: on him. He's he's worth the roll of the dice

737
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: for a franchise that ain't doing nothing. But uh, you

738
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: know mc corral, I think is a guy who uh,

739
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: you know, you worry about his frame because in the

740
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: open field he's a good runner, but in the open

741
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: field he looks for contact. Sliding has got to be

742
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: part of the deal immediately. Um. But he stands in

743
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: there and takes it, takes it on the chin because

744
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: he looks to throw deep and his frame is just

745
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: you worry about it being able to stand up. But

746
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: he's a good athlete. He can scored aways out of

747
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: trouble and uh, I mean he'll he'll square up and

748
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: flicking sixty yards no problem. He's alway he's always looking

749
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: deep first. So uh, you know, I just like the

750
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: guys that will roll the dice. I don't want safe

751
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: and steady. You know, Jalen Hurts is safe and steady.

752
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: How far are you ever gonna go with him? Um?

753
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: He seems more like a backup quarterback and a coach someday.

754
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: But you know, Matt, you know, Matt, I already picked

755
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: on Jalen Hurts twice now, but you compared Riddard Andy

756
00:40:54,719 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: Dalton too, which is a bad Oh, no doubt about it.

757
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: He'll he'll he'll let it rip. And I mean, you know,

758
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: you'll hear people talk about he had, you know, some

759
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: bad turnover sudd. He really just had like a couple

760
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: of bad games, you know, where like when you had

761
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: three interceptions, it was kind of like effort. I'm you know,

762
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: who cares if I throw a fourth or a fifth?

763
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: And uh, you know that's not the goal. But it's

764
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: you know, there's something I don't know if i'd call

765
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: it adamable admirable, but like he's gonna let it rip,

766
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: you know, like he's gonna he'll let it rip. So

767
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: their ability is an issue with him. I see I

768
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: see him as as a better prospect than I mean,

769
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: because you know people people say that, um, you know,

770
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: like one of the knocks on him. Is is ah,

771
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: Holy moly, Lane Kiffin's offense sort of buy design, you know,

772
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: but hey, you're throw an accurate deep ball and you're

773
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: never looking to go safe and steady. I don't care

774
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: what offense you play, because he's the type of player

775
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: who extends plays. I mean, he's quick, he's athletic, he'll

776
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: make plays off script. I think he was leading the

777
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: sec and rushing going into like November. You know this

778
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: isn't Cam Newton or Tim Tebow. Is a big physical

779
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: presence of the goal line. He's like six one nine.

780
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: I don't know what he measured at the combine, but

781
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: you know he's not physically impressive dude. But uh yeah,

782
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: I like him most of the quarterbacks for sure. I'm

783
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: not trying to be out like Nolan the Iraqi here,

784
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: but like there, he is the one quarterback where there

785
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 1: is a lot of press about the off the field

786
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: version of Matt Correll, where someone said the problems start

787
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: the minute you give him a million dollars. There's a

788
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: lot of unresolved stuff going on with him. Like so

789
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: it's I guess the fit would really matter where he lands.

790
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: You don't want to go to some wandering franchise that's

791
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: gonna be in and out of coaching hires, taking austray

792
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: in a big spot. Well, I mean I think we

793
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: know that. You know, he's he generates headlines for some

794
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: of his career criticism. I don't know Matt Correll, but

795
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: that's out there. Does it concern you? Are you just

796
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: just fair enough? Because I can't I can't really listen

797
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: any quarterbacks who I mean, you got that's that's a

798
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: full year. You know, that's a that's a real mature job.

799
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: You can't really Hey, are you finding me any of

800
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: the Johnny Manziel's or um, you know, Vince Young, you know,

801
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: I don't think took things too seriously. A bunch of

802
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: other guys who were kind of you know, guys who

803
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: didn't even really get uh, losing my chap, Kelly, you

804
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: know Sessler's guy. A lot of you don't you ran

805
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: very sad story, but he you know, those guys who

806
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: caught of scow around and don't think, all right, we'll

807
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: take things too seriously. I don't know, Spicy, I wanna

808
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: I want to cycle back to a tweet that you

809
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: have highlighted on your Twitter account from our great frienk

810
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: me Chris Westling. I remember was from March two thousand eighteen.

811
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: I remember a conversation more than a decade ago when

812
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 1: Spice Rack called Antonio Crimarti one of the most naturally

813
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: gifted athletes he'd ever seen on a football field. Crimarty

814
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: had a really, really good career in the NFL. Cremarty

815
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: was big. What what made him really not only was

816
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: the incredibly athletic he had size. He was six to

817
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: to ten. And now you got this guy, the Cincinnati kid,

818
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner. He's six three, he's one ninety. Do you

819
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: see any Cromarty esque ability to Obviously he's a physical match.

820
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: Do you think he has that type of ceiling I'll

821
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: tell you what he's got that, yes, absolutely, And I'll

822
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: tell you what he has them that same that same

823
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: uh you know, like that that same look in a uniform,

824
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: like this guy is just a stud. You know. It's

825
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: like looks like Tarzan, plays like Tarzan, you know what

826
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: I mean. Like some some of the Cromarty was like that.

827
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: Sean Taylor was like that, Patrick Peterson was like that.

828
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: And I'm talking early, you know, like they just stood out.

829
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: I mean South Gardner, Like a lot of games the

830
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: ball wasn't even going his way, but he still found

831
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: a way to stand out. Like this guy is just

832
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: just a stud. You know, I'm surprised. I think like

833
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: some of his testing stuff wasn't like off the charts,

834
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: which kind of surprised me. But you know, the comparison

835
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: is just that big athlete that's just like just smooth,

836
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: like you could you could see him being good at anything,

837
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 1: multiple position, multiple sports, Like just a real smooth guy.

838
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: Like when I when I saw early in the year,

839
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: you know, someone's mock draft or a top fifty or

840
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: whatever you will come your way, and you see him

841
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: pick being picked in the mid twenties, Like, hell no,

842
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. I mean, he's he's he's

843
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 1: a ballplayer. It's probably going top five and he looks

844
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: point yeah, I mean it's give us some of your

845
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: rapid fire. Maybe yeah, I know, you know alright, like

846
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,959
Speaker 1: who's gonna be lighting up Sundays that you're excited about

847
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: running backs, receivers those type of players, well, you know,

848
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: I mean receivers. As far as I'm concerned, is like, uh,

849
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: this is that first generation where we're looking at like

850
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: all the guys grow up now playing receiver. It's it's

851
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: you get paid more, it's safer. You know, those enforces

852
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: are in the middle of the field. Running backs get

853
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: the shaft. So that's where guys always play running backs,

854
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: and a lot of times they you know, they'd be

855
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: stubborn and they wouldn't want the position change. I just

856
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: feel like all these guys coming out, there's just gonna

857
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: be so many more hits misses almost every year now.

858
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: I just think that's a position, um because because you

859
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: look at like what Chase and the Jefferson right before that,

860
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: even like Backham when he first, it was never ever

861
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: like that in the NFL that a rookie would come in.

862
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: Even during passing booms, you wouldn't see rookies like really

863
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: just blow up. And I just think we're seeing a

864
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: lot more of those guys. Have us your favorites though,

865
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: Johan Dotson, Um, I think we'll have to move to

866
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: the slot. But he's the guy I like most. I

867
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: think he's like just a bustproof player. That's a that's

868
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: a big take. I mean he's not going in the

869
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 1: first round, and a lot of them. I like Tyler

870
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: Boyd with upside, you know, but like I think he's

871
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 1: more in the slot, but he'll hit home. Ron's kind

872
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: or like chunk plays. Um. He was a one man

873
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: team at Penn State. He was the only guy who

874
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: could do anything. So I know he was at the

875
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: top of every scouting report and a man he busted

876
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: open big plays. Let it like Eliza More where he's

877
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: a small guy that's gonna play outside infinitely. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,

878
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: um but yeah, John Dots and I like a lot,

879
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: but all these received I mean, sky More I love.

880
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,919
Speaker 1: I mean, I I see no way he's not gonna

881
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: be a hell of a ball player. Um, Metchie you

882
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: know his injury situation, but I think he's a stud.

883
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: I know Saban loves him and and I thought he

884
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: was more of the guy even than Jamison Williams. But

885
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: like James Williams be great. Yeah, I mean I think

886
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: all these guys are good. I really don't have someone

887
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: that I that I would even knock. Um. They obviously

888
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: some will bust or whatever, but you know, just a

889
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: high hit rate anymore with receivers. The tight end I

890
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: love is Greg dalchich. Um. You're not hearing a lot

891
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: a lot about tight ends. This draft class. No, not loaded,

892
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: but um, you know that I feel like that's a position.

893
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: Like these guys the like the receiving not the not

894
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: the blocking receiving hybrid tight end, but like just those

895
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,959
Speaker 1: receiving tight ends. A lot of them come into the league,

896
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: you know, good and ready to go and and uh

897
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: had to you know, from one hair you know, hair

898
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 1: ficionado to another. I'd see. I want the Bengals to

899
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: grab him so much in the second round if he's available,

900
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 1: I get I get these like h Brent Jones, Dallas

901
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: Clark type vibes with him, and both of those guys

902
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: played with extremely accurate quarterbacks Steve Young and Peyton Manning,

903
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: but mostly like new where to go with the ball?

904
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: Who's your catch? Who's your and Williams memorial table pounder.

905
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's like a late pick you really stood for,

906
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: Jonathan Williams. Jonathan Williams. Of course, I'm running back out

907
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: of the middles fifth round pick spicy pound of the

908
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: table didn't work out, but it's a dart throw obviously

909
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: on that day. Who is who? Who's the guy that

910
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: people aren't talking about that you feel reasonably confident is

911
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: going to be a player. Jeez, Louise, you have to

912
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: know the question is coming, Spicy. Yeah, well, you know

913
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:06,479
Speaker 1: usually like you can always find a quarterback who called

914
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: McDonald famously. You're a big fan of old McDonald. He was,

915
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: he was the first guy cut he I don't even

916
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: think he made it the camp. I don't even think

917
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: he made it the camp. Oh no, I forgot about

918
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: Old McDonald's all right, So obviously there's gonna be more

919
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: mrs than hits here. Who is who's gonna change the

920
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: trajectory here? Well, this annoyed Spicy. First of all, I

921
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: understand that it was one million percent. I'm also annoyed

922
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: that I barely heard Sessler's voice. I'll call you are

923
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,919
Speaker 1: the star of the show, call you on the phone.

924
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: One on one. Ask one asked the final question, then

925
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: or Mark, Mark? I want to hear the answer to

926
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,720
Speaker 1: this one like you have one. Well, yeah, Spicy doesn't

927
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: always answer. Sometimes you gotta just keep moving. Sometimes he's

928
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: more evasive than Johnny Depp on the stand. Well, how

929
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: about how about this? I'll tell you, I'll give you

930
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: two guys from University of Cincinnati who were so sort

931
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: of not not by no me off the radar there,

932
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 1: they'll probably like Day three type, maybe late day too picks.

933
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 1: But Um, Alec Pierce, the wide receiver, he's he's a

934
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: home run hitter. He's not gonna be Johnny Possession receiver.

935
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: And I don't think you're gonna throw him the ball

936
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: a ton, but he's a home run hitter. Um. When

937
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: they watching Ritter, I was thinking the rest of their

938
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: receivers are terrible, but Alec Pierce is a boler. Yeah,

939
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: he's he's he's the truth, and he's tall and so

940
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he's a hell of an athlete.

941
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: He can he can sort of go up and get

942
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: it again. You're not gonna build your offense around this guy.

943
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: But uh, you know that number two receiver who will

944
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: catch a couple of long ones and stretched the field.

945
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: The other guy is is uh Sauce Gardeners quarterback teammate

946
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant. Okay, m hum, He's already a chip on

947
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: the shoulder type player. It's pretty clear he sort of

948
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: place within that edge. But I mean, imagine this guy

949
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: just won the Jim Thorpe Award for the nation's defensive

950
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: back or you know, best defensive back. Um, unquestionably the

951
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: only guy in in Cincinnati Bearcat history to do so,

952
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 1: and like no one even mentioned his name or mentioned

953
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 1: that because he happens to share the exact same position

954
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: with the best defensive player in the history of that school,

955
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: you know, and and like he saw a lot of action.

956
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: He was always game. I mean, he's he's a hell

957
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: of a player. Um, I could see him being a

958
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: you know, like a you know and maybe maybe more

959
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: in the slot or or just like playing. He's the

960
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: guy I want on the field for sure. So both

961
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: those guys that could be like second third you know,

962
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: maybe more like third round picks. Um, I'm I'm kind

963
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: of like, yeah, I like both those guys for sure.

964
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: All right, do you have something? No, alright, let me

965
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: before we say goodbye. He's gonna give you a call

966
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: before you say goodbye. I want a sandwich frop from Spicy.

967
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: I thought you were right. I gotta I got, I

968
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: got a quadruple wmmy sandwich problem. All right, let's hear it.

969
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 1: My Okay, there's four parts of this, uh first ever

970
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: four team parlay as. I'll take it. Yeah, I'll take

971
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: it too. I'll wait and say my my connection with

972
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler will intensify over the next Uh well, however

973
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: long till the end of those season. Okay, my connection

974
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: with Greg will gradually increase. Okay, gradually it was just

975
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: steady Eddie Greg like we've been going, buddy, and then Dan,

976
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: our relationship will will you know, fall off cliff plummet.

977
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: That's where we're at. Now, that's stuff I hope that.

978
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: I hope that's not that's not already tumbled up a cliff.

979
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: All right, what's the content? Contention? Contention is brewing? Uh

980
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: and then Ricky and I will stay the exact same,

981
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: which is to say, zero relationship. That's that's from now

982
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: mark the clock until the end of the football season.

983
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: I don't all right, texted you, I don't think I

984
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: can take you on this because this sounds um spot on.

985
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: I mean, and then you're accurate. I think control happening.

986
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: I would. I always pick what I'm rooting for, and

987
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: I want to see this be the moment that actually,

988
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: instead of breaking you and Dan apart, brings you together.

989
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 1: Uh So I'll take you on it, and I want

990
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 1: to take it and I'm gonna mend the fences with

991
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: spicy I'm gonna win a sandwich prop and gain a

992
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: friend in the process. That's that's how I think. But Spicy,

993
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: I want you to be sussing out the ideas Dan

994
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: reaching out to you more with more frequency, because it's

995
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: to win a sandwich, it's false. Or do you feel

996
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: those real feelings of friendship? You have to you have

997
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: to weigh in on that with all of us or

998
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: eternally I'd be happy. I'd be happy to lose this one,

999
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: you know. And also and also for your own um,

1000
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 1: for your own sanity. Just don't wait by the phone

1001
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: for Mark to call you. It's not gonna happen. Well,

1002
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I gotta speak for yourself. Yeah, I

1003
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: don't appreciate that sentence. I don't appreciate the sentences when

1004
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: you get the phone call. Can I have a very

1005
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: specific and understood relationship, and uh, I just want to

1006
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: keep it. I just want to keep growing it even

1007
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: in the past. You know, twenty four hours we've been

1008
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: texting about a novel that we both read that we

1009
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: thought needs to be created into film form. So I

1010
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: don't know where dance coming with that black view of

1011
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: the world. I don't don't hold your breath. That's a negative.

1012
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: We don't heed. What do I need from you? Mark

1013
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: and I were, I mean, the bond is it's getting stronger,

1014
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: and I want to see it. It's about to intensify

1015
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: according to you. Said, yes, alright, you've said it all.

1016
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: Thanks Spicy, Thank you buddy. There he goes. You know,

1017
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: I texted Spicy yesterday and I said, hey, do you

1018
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: want to do a sandwich prop? Again that's an olive branch.

1019
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 1: Do you want to be more involved with the ship?

1020
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: And that's what he came back with. It was on

1021
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: brand though he's hell I fired up about some of these.

1022
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: Either it shows his ability to change on the fly,

1023
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: h and come up with a you know, I found

1024
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: very humorous sandwich props because we've never we've never had

1025
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: one like that before. I guess he had nothing planned

1026
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: then he just went with that. That's possible too, but

1027
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: either way, and he had no old McDonald all star,

1028
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: which that was a little a little disappointed about that too.

1029
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: But other elements of their appearance I really didn't enjoy.

1030
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he brings an unhinged element, so

1031
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 1: to not be prepared for the Cole McDonald two point

1032
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: oh pick is mixed. Total sense he he liked Corral.

1033
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: That was a hot take of these receivers. I haven't

1034
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: heard any I feel like no one likes Matt Corral

1035
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: except Chris Sims likes Matt Coral. That's about it. Ah,

1036
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: he likes John Dots and best of all the receiver.

1037
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: That's a pretty hot take. Maybe seventh three s and

1038
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: then he like the two Cincinnati gas. Kobe Bryant. You know,

1039
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: maybe it's the name that just people are Kobe with

1040
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: a C. Though it's that that would bother me. He

1041
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 1: won the Jim Thorpe board and no one's even talking

1042
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 1: about him, and he might be Listen, I'm not about

1043
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: to speak on the Cincinnati Barrack got football. When the

1044
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: arguably the best cornerback in the country is locking down

1045
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: the other half of the field. I would feel like,

1046
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: even if Kobe was great, some people are gonna say, well,

1047
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: I guess that shows a great mentality. Though. You know,

1048
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a lot of balls. You're gonna get

1049
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: picked on your across the street, from across the field,

1050
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: from the top ten pick, and you compete enough to

1051
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: get that sort of national recognition. That's the type of

1052
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 1: player you want, all right. On the shoulder. All right,

1053
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: So there you have it. Good app We are now

1054
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: getting on airplanes and I don't know if it's the

1055
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: same airplane or what, but we're all heading to Las

1056
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: Vegas for the NFL draft. First round. Will be there,

1057
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: I guess kind of backstage or something. I don't know

1058
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 1: what the setup is, but we'll be there. We're gonna

1059
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: talk to some of the first round picks. We're gonna,

1060
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: of course give you the night of the round one,

1061
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: we'll have a recap show that will get up to

1062
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: you as soon as possible. Uh, so make sure you

1063
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: check that out. Like I said, we'll also have the

1064
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: Saturday night recap um that will be a rundown of

1065
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: everything that happened, uh the week that was in the

1066
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: draft that was so be there for that. So a

1067
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: lot of good content, a lot of good content. Any

1068
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: final words, mark the floor is yours. I've already said enough.

1069
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I've presented my mock draft and now I

1070
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: let my deep research, um, my processes and uh, you know,

1071
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: months of looking at the overall landscape of the NFL

1072
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: speak for itself. And I think it's fair to say

1073
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: Josh Norris is nervous I think he would. I think

1074
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: he should be I Um, I think we should make

1075
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: this the tradition that the Mock and Spicy are together.

1076
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: It's a it's a chaotic show, a chaotic and g Um.

1077
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: I think he's spice Rack humans. They're fascinating, They're fascinating

1078
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: creatures here. I think, the same reason why I enjoy

1079
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: these spice Rack segments so much is the exact same

1080
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: reasons Dan is uncomfortable with him. I me uncomfortable. I'm

1081
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: enjoying it. I enjoy the discourse with Spicy. Um. I

1082
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: hope we can mend the relationship, and if it gets worse,

1083
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: that's good too. I mean, we still don't know this.

1084
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: The kernel of this occurred in Las Vegas years ago.

1085
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: I don't think we'll ever know that. Well, you do,

1086
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't truly know. But maybe that's the

1087
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: seed of everything. I mean, it certainly went south from there.

1088
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe if you are like iced tea and lemonade,

1089
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: we're like oil and water. One of those things, that's

1090
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: just one of those things. You just gotta write it off.

1091
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: You're not always gonna best friends with you. You don't

1092
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: fit together. No, that's okay. But you are increasingly getting

1093
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: closer with him, so that's good. You don't tell you right,

1094
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: you won't be calling him though, be honest, you're like,

1095
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: we've spoken on the phone multiple times. It's not I

1096
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: don't know why you assume that. I'm just I mean

1097
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: fair eness to throw it back to you know, Tuesday show,

1098
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: um where you where you did the play acting of

1099
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: the call. There's not a lot of phone calls going

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00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: on in the year, people in their thirties and forties,

1101
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: and what I factor that in my prediction. Alright, go,

1102
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: all right, let's go. We'll see you in Vegas until then.

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00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: Thank you the Spice Rack. Thank you to Mark Sessler

1104
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: for grinding it out once again. Watch out, Josh Norris,

1105
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: he'd the call.