1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Takes the snap, turns, gives to Montgomery. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: Bright Side tucks out the Trod Lions. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: This game over. Pack it up, boys, we're going home. 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: Welcome to week two of the NFL season. Lines have 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: another rematch of the playoffs against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 2: I'm really happy to welcome in. Eric Woodyard does a 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: great job with ESPN covering the Detroit Lions. 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 3: Eric. 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: Before we start, though, I have to give it off, 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: shout out to my son Connor twenty men turned seventeen 11 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: this week. Your son Ethan, you bring him around. He 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: comes around during training camp and stuff. Holds Ethan ten. Now, 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: I was a travel hockey dad, travel baseball dad. 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty good basketball basketball. 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 4: He just started football. So yeah, shout out to Connor 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 4: our happy birthday. Well, yeah, want son, man, he doing 17 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 4: all that type of stuff. Man, every day, I feel 18 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 4: like I'm ripping a running this morning, same thing. I 19 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 4: took him to school, you know, yeah, practice last night, 20 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 4: practice today. So it's ten. 21 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: That's a fun age, man. That's when they're starting to 22 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: kind of get into their own right. It is all right, Well, 23 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: let's get into this matchup because it's a good one. 24 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: And look Eric, you had a great statistic about just 25 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: how difficult this Lion's schedule was to start. 26 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: Obviously, had the Week. 27 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: One rematch of the Wildcard playoffs with the Rams, get 28 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: an overtime win there, Now you run it right back, 29 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,279 Speaker 2: you get a Division round rematch against the Bucks. 30 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: Had you had a crazy sting. 31 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 4: So I was doing my research, you know, and definitely 32 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 4: it's kind of rare for teams to have these early 33 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 4: playoff rematches, you know, to start the season. So obviously 34 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 4: the Rams Week one, you come back with Tampa Bay. 35 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 4: It's only been you know, three other teams in NFL 36 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 4: history that have you know, ran it back from the 37 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 4: previous two playoff rematches, and all three of those teams 38 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 4: reached the super Bowl. So you look at two thousand 39 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 4: and seven, the Patriots, they lost in the super Bowl. 40 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 4: But before that, the nineteen eighty the nineteen eighty four 41 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 4: to forty nine Ers they won the super Bowl, and 42 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 4: the nineteen sixty six Packers they won a Super Bowl. 43 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 4: So this is rare territory, you know, for them to 44 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 4: come back and run it back. So I mean, I 45 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 4: know it's been Super Bowl, Super Bowl, and Dan Campbell 46 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 4: and the players trying to get away from it. But 47 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 4: it is Super Bowl those type of I mean, it's 48 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 4: hard to overlook stuff like that when we're looking into that, 49 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 4: so you know, that's kind of rare. 50 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: It was a big win Week one. 51 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: You know, obviously overtime, tough opponent, that's a team I 52 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: think that you're going to see it when it's all 53 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: said and done, the NFC fighting for a playoff spot, 54 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: and that's critical when it comes to tie breakers and matchups. 55 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: You get another one this week. Let's get into three 56 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: big keys about this week's matchup. First, to me, it's 57 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: it's I thought Baker Mayfield and that offense looked terrific. 58 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: Now, that passing game was great, Baker, I. 59 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: Think it was twenty four of thirty, two hundred and 60 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: eighty nine yards, four touchdowns, no interceptions, one hundred and 61 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: forty four, one hundred and forty point, the three passer 62 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: rating and it's a first year new offensive co Liam 63 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: Cohen there Just what did you see from that performance? 64 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: And what does what does Detroit have to do to 65 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 2: try to limit that kind of explosiveness. 66 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 4: So funny story, I mean, Baker, I picked him up 67 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 4: later on my fantasy team, so I was watching that 68 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 4: relatively closely when he was doing I got a lot 69 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 4: of points off that so shot the Baker first week, 70 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 4: let me get that weird. But yeah, so, I mean 71 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 4: I thought it was cool. You know, he got a 72 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 4: lot of different targets over there. You know, that's a 73 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 4: high powered offense over there. You look at what Rashaan 74 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 4: White was able to do, seventy seventy five receiving yards. 75 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 4: Chris Godwin, you know, Jayleen McMillan, Mike Evans, all those 76 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 4: guys were able to, you know, really really shine in 77 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 4: that first game. So I think the Lions they really 78 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 4: have to be disciplined. They need smart play from Carlton Davis. 79 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 5: I know. 80 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 4: You know, Carlton Davis got experience those guys six seasons. 81 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 4: You know those guys, So I think that's somewhat of 82 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 4: an advantage having six years under his belt to play 83 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 4: with them. And then we need Terry On Arnold, you know, 84 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 4: those guys to step up, you know, be a little 85 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 4: more disciplined. I thought he was up and down in 86 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 4: that first week, but I think a little more consistent 87 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 4: play from him. Also, you know, you look at the safeties, Kirby, Joseph, 88 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 4: Brian Branch. I think they're gonna play a big role 89 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 4: in this game, So I think they need guys to 90 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 4: be more consistent, a little more disciplined, and I think 91 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 4: from there on, I think, you know, just cleaning up 92 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 4: a little bit of that play that was really the 93 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 4: off season. What they really wanted to clean up was 94 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 4: that secondary So you know, stronger play from those guys, 95 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 4: it's gonna be a big challenge. 96 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: And that was the Week one, right. 97 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: We always see sloppier play, a little bit more inconsistent 98 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: play with Week one, especially when you couple the fact 99 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: that those guys hadn't played a lot of time in 100 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: the training camp. I mean, those guys were injured at 101 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: different points and didn't get a whole lot of time, 102 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: and now you're dealing with the environment there and the 103 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: turned out Lions fans and the noise and communication. So 104 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: I would expect that to be much better. You look 105 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: at that performance, and obviously Matthew threw for over three 106 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: hundred yards, had a lot of success, but when you 107 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: look at Davis and Arnold specifically, they targeted Davis thirteen times, 108 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: completed nine for one hundred and fourteen yards, but sixty 109 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: three of those was a short catch and run that 110 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: he slipped on the nine yard touchdown pass to Cooper Cup. 111 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 2: Another play he slipped on Terry and Arnold through him 112 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: ten times completed eight. 113 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: One of those was a really. 114 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: Nice route by Cooper Cup, a twenty one yard comeback 115 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: that you know, kind of turned Arnold around a little bit. 116 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: Really good route. 117 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 2: But other than that, seven catches for thirty six yards. 118 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: I think when it's all said and then the lines 119 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: will take that right. 120 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: You know, and so that sham. Yeah, you got to. Yeah, 121 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: but this matchup's a little bit different. 122 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: I mean those guys, especially Mike Evans on the outside, 123 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: it's a different. Cooper Cup is kind of that precision guy, 124 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: that route runner. That guy's always in the right spot. 125 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 2: Mike Evans is a guy I thought Baker Mayfield said 126 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: it best this week. He said, if it's fifty to fifty, 127 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: it's not really fifty to fifty. I like mister Evans 128 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: on that one, and he's right. I mean, that is 129 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: such a weapon, right, Yeah, definitely a big weapon. And 130 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: like you said, you got to have guys to be disciplined. 131 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: I think they were a little rusty though in that 132 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: first game. Just going back to your point, and I 133 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: asked a couple of guys that after the first game 134 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: for the Lions, I think, I think you have to 135 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 2: factor that in. No preseason experience, like you say, injury, 136 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: so I think, like you say, it has. 137 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 4: To be cleaned up a little more, right. I mean 138 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 4: definitely when you get that time off. I don't think 139 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 4: they're gonna, like Dan Campbell was saying, not use them 140 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 4: for the preseason again going forward. That's not like an excuse, 141 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 4: I don't think. But you have to factor that aspect 142 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 4: in as well. And you're throwing them right in the 143 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 4: deep end, especially these guys that's young, that's quarterbacks. 144 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 3: All. 145 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, I expect it to be better all 146 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: the way around, both sides of the ball, you know, 147 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 2: week two, and I think of one big part getting 148 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 2: into our second keys for that is how do they 149 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: get it? 150 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm say I'm more involved, man. 151 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 4: I can imagine if anybody who's been around this guy, 152 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 4: I know he was extremely bish his dad. 153 00:05:58,839 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: I talked to his dad. 154 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 4: He said he better not be over there getting you know, 155 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 4: getting complacent, because they got the ads around the city. 156 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 4: He got the Little Seasons commercial. So I don't think 157 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 4: his family's tolerating that. I don't think he's tolerating that. 158 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 4: You know, the guy, what six targets, three receptions, thirteen yards. 159 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 4: That's not gonna happen again. I mean, that's just not 160 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 4: This is typical. And I think this defense is tailored 161 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 4: for him to get off. I mean, you look at 162 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 4: what he was able to do last year when they 163 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 4: played them in the playoffs. He had a touchdown the 164 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 4: game before that. They saw it them week six. You know, 165 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 4: twelve receptions, you know, tied for the second most at 166 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 4: the time, and you know in his career, So I 167 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 4: think this is a game to kind of get him 168 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 4: back on track. And I think, you know, they were 169 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 4: trying to get him involved. I think it was just 170 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 4: a mix of you know, them with the coverage, and 171 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 4: I think it was just a mix of just things 172 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 4: falling apart a little bit, Like you know, Jered Goff 173 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 4: said after the game, you know, he was like he 174 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 4: didn't feel like they were doing anything in particular, so 175 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 4: like take him out of it. But I think, you know, 176 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 4: he's a focal point now. Obviously it was a big game, 177 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,799 Speaker 4: and I think it was just a quiet night. Jmo 178 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 4: got off with so many different weapons so I don't 179 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 4: think anybody expected him to have that type of game again. 180 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 4: And I think you look at the success that he 181 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 4: did had last year against his Buccaneer team, I don't 182 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 4: really see him really falling off at off anything. He's 183 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 4: probably pissed off this week. 184 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: And one of the big storylines this week coming on 185 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay is the issues that they're having a cornerback 186 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: and safety. Some of the injuries they have there, Bryce 187 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: Hall going to ir Zion McCollum had a concussion, left 188 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: of the Dame, Josh Hayes, their number one backup has 189 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: an ankle injury, and then Antoine Winfield was in a. 190 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: Boot after that game. 191 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: So I mean, that's the chunk of your second and 192 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: they've had to sign, you know, an undrafted guy this 193 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: weekend and that's very much in flux, and I think 194 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: that's advantage a'man Ross Saint Brown, Jared Golf this passing 195 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: attack at home, I would expect we see a much 196 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: bigger performance from Saint Brown's I. 197 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 4: Think so man, that guys, you know, one of the 198 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 4: most disciplined, motivated guys, and any little thing he looking 199 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: at so I know he's licking his chops to try 200 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 4: to get back out there to. 201 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: Saint Brownie your fantasy team. 202 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 4: No, no, I have Baker, all right, I don't got 203 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 4: on this edition. 204 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: Right, Let's get into our third big key and one 205 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: that I think we're both excited to see is what 206 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: kind of impact. 207 00:07:58,560 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: Can DJ Reader have? 208 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: Because if you watch that Rams game, you have to 209 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: be excited about the way that front minus DJ Reader 210 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: got after Matthew Stafford. Not a ton of sacks too, 211 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: but they hit him twelve times. He you know, he 212 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: was on the run a little bit. He was pressured 213 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: all game. And now you add a guy like DJ 214 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: Reader into the mix. 215 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: You're smiling. I'm spine. 216 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: I Dan Campbell's smiling down the stairs. And what do 217 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: you expect from him? 218 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 4: Man, I think he's going to come in. I don't 219 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 4: think there's no pressure on him. I think he's going 220 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 4: to come in and find his way. He really helped 221 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 4: their interior defense out a lot. 222 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 223 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I talked to him before the 224 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 4: season started as he was trying to get in the 225 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 4: loop of everything, and he was saying, yeah, he doesn't 226 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 4: feel as any pressure. He just want to come in 227 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 4: and be an impact player. He's not relied upon to 228 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 4: get crazy amount of stacked stats or anything like that. 229 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 4: He's just going to come in and be consistent veteran presence. 230 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 4: You got Levi, you know, you got Ellen McNeil, and 231 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 4: I think they're super excited to play with this veteran. 232 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 4: He's been a part of a turnaround as well already before, 233 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 4: coming from you know, the Bengals team, and I think 234 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,359 Speaker 4: that that that type of stuff like that is you know, invaluable. 235 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 4: So I think he brings that as well as his 236 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 4: as well as his production. So I expect him to 237 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: really help that interior. 238 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 2: And you mentioned Levi, and I thought he had a 239 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: terrific Week one game. But now when you put DJ 240 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: into that mix and Marcus Davenport, I thought had a 241 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: great game. Now there's not only talent eat but there's 242 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 2: depth along that defensive front. 243 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: And that's important. 244 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: When you talk about seventeen games a eighteen week schedule, 245 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: you're gonna need those guys. And now they can run 246 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: guys in and out, they can keep guys fresh. That 247 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: hasn't always been the case here. You've had some studs 248 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 2: obviously on this defensive line, but now you got five 249 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: six guys that can go out there, make place for 250 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: you and compete. You can shuffle those guys in, keep 251 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: them fresh. I think that's huge. And just from a 252 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: rushing perspective, you look at Tampa Bay thirty rushes one 253 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 2: hundred and twelve yards three point seven average. 254 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: Not bad. 255 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: Okay, now you're putting Alee McNeil and DJ Reader, the 256 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 2: too top ten run stuffers in the league, next to 257 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: each other. I just want to see how that works together. 258 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: Just all that beef right there, I mean that's bringing 259 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 2: the beef. 260 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, McNeil. I mean he was saying they want to 261 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 4: be violent. That's what that's what these defense want to 262 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 4: be on that So you add him into that. This 263 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 4: defense is violent, it's mean, it's angry, and I think 264 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 4: you add a guy like DJ Reader only makes it 265 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 4: even better. 266 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 2: And I think it's gonna allow guys like alexans A 267 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 2: Lonely to fly around. If you saw him thirteen tackles, 268 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 2: three tackles for lost last week. Just everything is gonna, 269 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 2: I think open up for the guys behind them. It's 270 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: gonna be a much faster paced I think more playmaking 271 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: with that Detroit defense with him in the center there, 272 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: because he's gonna take double teams, and so it's Hutch 273 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 2: and so now you get Marcus Davenport one on one, 274 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 2: you get a Lee McNeil one on one. Just as 275 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: an offensive line, what do you do? 276 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: How do you attack it? 277 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: And I think that's the fun thing if you're a 278 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions fan. 279 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely, man, this team is revamped it especially defensively 280 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 4: in that area particularly. We talked about secondary earlier. So 281 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 4: once they all put it together, get time to play 282 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: shake the Russ we haven't even saw. I feel like, 283 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 4: as long as they stay healthy, the best of this 284 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 4: team at all. I mean that was just a little, 285 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 4: really small window that we saw this first week. So 286 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 4: it's a lot of excitement with that defense. 287 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: You're exciting Lions fans here, I know, because it's a 288 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 2: great atmosphere Week one, it's going to be a great 289 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: atmosphere here, a tough opponent if you can come away. 290 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 2: I think with two wins off two playoff caliber teams 291 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: have those tie breakers, I think that's huge for this team. 292 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: Those were the three keys to Sunday's game. He is 293 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 2: Eric Wood, who does a great job with ESPN. We'll 294 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: be back in a minute. Welcome back to the twenty 295 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: in the Huddle podcast. Very happy to welcome Frank rag 296 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: now all Pro Center for the Detroit Lions, brand new 297 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 2: father I saw that piece on ABC. How fun was 298 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: that to be a part of and just how is 299 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: fatherhood changing a little bit? 300 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: Frank, Yeah, it was really cool. 301 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 6: I think the coolest part to me was to be 302 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 6: able to highlight my wife because she's incredible and does 303 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 6: a lot for our family. And I'm extremely blessed. But 304 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 6: it's been It's every It's amazing. It's such a huge 305 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 6: change of my perspective on everything in life. I feel 306 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 6: like it's called me. I really realize what matters. Football 307 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 6: is just football to me now, and I just feel 308 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 6: like it's made me a better person and father or husband, everything. 309 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 6: He's just been such a blessing. 310 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: And I saw Matt training camp a couple of times. 311 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: How old is he now? 312 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 6: He's getting he's over he's just turned thirteen months. 313 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: Just thirteen months, so he's starting to be on the 314 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: move now and stuff like that. 315 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: That's a tough time. 316 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: I'll age myself here, Frank, you know how crazy it is. 317 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: And my advice to you is taking every day. 318 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: Mine turned seventeen. 319 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 6: Yes, is crazy, but it feels like it's flying thirteen. 320 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: Months fly by, haven't it? Yeah? 321 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: How cool is it to be in a room there too? 322 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: And that piece highlight on ABC if you haven't seen, 323 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: it's a great one. It gets all five of you 324 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: guys who are now dads together. But just to have 325 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 2: that community within that offensive line group and just have 326 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 2: guys that are in similar spots, wives that are in 327 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: similar spots. 328 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: I think you guys highlighted that too. It feels like 329 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: family in that room. It always has been, but especially now, 330 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: don't it. 331 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 6: For sure? It's a blessing to be able to lean 332 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 6: on these guys, asked the advice of Penay Graham, Taylor Kevin, 333 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 6: like to hear what they have to say, and they've 334 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 6: already been through it, and then we all are going 335 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 6: through a lot of the same things, so we're able 336 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 6: to relate and have good conversation about it all. 337 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: All right, let's get to football. How rewarding was that 338 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 2: overtime drive for you? I mean, you guys pride yourself 339 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: on playing big boy ball offensive line here you have 340 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: for years, but that was the true definition of it 341 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: right there. I mean, six rushes sixty yards, went right 342 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 2: down the field through it one time for ten yards, 343 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: but that was big boy ball. How impressive was that? 344 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: Yeah? 345 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 6: It felt good. Would have liked to get that going 346 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 6: a little bit earlier in the game, but we able 347 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 6: to make it happen. You definitely felt like David was 348 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 6: hit a different level there and it was pretty special 349 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 6: to be a part of that. I feel like the 350 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 6: whole offense kind of feeledes him as he feeled off 351 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 6: him as he kept going, and then we just tried 352 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 6: to execute or do our job and do what we 353 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 6: need to do. 354 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: How much did you guys appreciate having a running back 355 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: like that back? 356 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 2: I mean, they talk all the time about the kind 357 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: of thunder and lightning, but David really can be that 358 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: thun But there's a little lightning in there. 359 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: To you, he's kind of that mixed guy. 360 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: But when he gets going, man, he is really tough 361 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 2: to tackle, but guys bounce off him and he's just 362 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: a guy that can run between the tackles make big plays. 363 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 2: How nice is it to have a guy like that 364 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: running behind you. 365 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's relentless and to know that he's one cutaway 366 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 6: or running over, one guy away from making a big one. 367 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 6: It definitely motivates you more to finish your block. Block 368 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 6: a little bit harder for a few more seconds and 369 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 6: see what happens. And he showed it. 370 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: You guys gonna get that going first quarter this week. 371 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna laugh goal hard to go, you know. 372 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 2: And I wrote after the game that the good teams 373 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: in this league find a way to win when they 374 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: don't play their best football. Is that one of the 375 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 2: takeaways that you can take from last week? And especially offensively, 376 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: I don't think we've seen this offense be explosive, one 377 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: of the best in the league. You weren't quite there 378 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: last week, especially in the passing game. But week one 379 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: is kind of the unknown. 380 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: Is that? 381 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: The one takeaway there that, hey, we're a good football team. 382 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: We still find a way to win even though we 383 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 2: don't play our best football. 384 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 6: That's the good takeaway. That's what you have to take 385 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 6: away from it. You also have to be hard on yourself, 386 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 6: your harshest critics, and see where we went wrong and 387 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 6: fix all that stuff and not forget about that in 388 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 6: a win. But yeah, the good takeaway is good teams 389 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 6: find a way to win ugly. And I feel like 390 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 6: we did play some COMPROMENTNI football with the offense, defense, 391 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 6: and special team, so that's a good sign. 392 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: What was the biggest disappointment for you after watching the tape? Money, 393 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: What's one area you'd like to see this offense maybe 394 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: clean up, especially heading into a Bucks game on Sunday. 395 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 6: I'd just say, operation, we could definitely be cleaner, whether 396 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 6: it's false starts or whatnot, and how we're uh the 397 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 6: tempo in and out of the huddle and all that 398 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 6: stuff like that really can stress out a defense if 399 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 6: you're really on your p's and q's there. 400 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: What about Kevin Zeitler, you got your first chance kind 401 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: of playing, you know, next to him. How has he 402 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: worked into that mix? Obviously an experienced player, played for 403 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: a terrific team in Baltimore. How does he fit into 404 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: that mix? How do you like that set up there 405 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: along the right side with you him? 406 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 6: And obviously yeah, he's a strong, strong guard and does 407 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 6: a great job moving double teams him and had a 408 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 6: couple of them this week that were pretty good. 409 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: Talk about this challenge this week with the Bucks. I mean, 410 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: that's a defense that is gonna come. They're going to 411 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: pressure you a lot of different ways. I think they 412 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: run pretty much every single defense in the book. When 413 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: you look through the course of a game. Just how 414 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: difficult the task this week? What's the main focus heading 415 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: into Sunday. 416 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, Coach Bowls is going to really stress you out. 417 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 6: I think they can run any coverage, any pressure, a 418 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 6: whole lot of fronts, and then you combine that with 419 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 6: a lot of talent upfront and a lot of guys 420 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 6: who've been in that system for a while, so we're 421 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 6: gonna have our hands full. They do a great job 422 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 6: stopping the run, They've always done a great job under him, 423 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 6: and then they'll bring a whole bowload of different pressures, 424 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 6: whether it's cover zero pressures or linebacker dogs, free safety, 425 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 6: They're bringing it all. So you got to really be 426 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 6: on your p's and q's. We got to make sure 427 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 6: we're overly communicating and trying to make sure we're all 428 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 6: on the same page. 429 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: And you talked about some of the dogs that Vida 430 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: Bay is one of them. 431 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: When I see that, do you take that approach sometimes 432 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: when you know you got a guy like that who's 433 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: just gonna be on you all game long, who's a 434 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: giant human being. Like Saturday, before the game, you're obviously 435 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: excited about. You're like, Oh, it's gonna be such an 436 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: heach all day. 437 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 6: Freaking grizzly bear. Yeah, it's gonna be this. I know 438 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 6: I'm gonna have my hands full extremely large, extremely strong, 439 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 6: extremely athletic, very talented players, so got to bring in 440 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 6: every snap. 441 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: You look forward to matchups like that too. 442 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 2: I know we've talked in the past, like before you're 443 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: playing the Rams and getting like an Aaron Donald type 444 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: when you get those elite type players, do you look 445 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: forward to to those matchups. 446 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 6: Part of it? Yeah, Like there's there's some parts you're 447 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 6: like not looking forward to that, but like, to be 448 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 6: able to compete against the best is only going to 449 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 6: bring out your best. 450 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: I feel like, does he rank up there? 451 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 2: Like do you have like a top three like currently playing? 452 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 2: I know Aaron Donald retires, so he's probably off that 453 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: list current current like list of the top three guys 454 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 2: that you're. 455 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 6: Like like true noses. Yeah, him and Dexter are right 456 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 6: up there. Yeah, those two are like true nose guards. 457 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: Those are the best, and you just know every play 458 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: they're going to be right across from You've got to 459 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: do your job. Here we go, here, we go. I 460 00:17:58,600 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: love it. 461 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 2: Here we go again at Ford Field. What a great 462 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 2: atmosphere that was obviously all playoffs last year, but week 463 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 2: won as well. 464 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: You expect the same thing. 465 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 2: How much, Frank, is that becoming a home field advantage 466 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: for you and one of the best ones. 467 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 5: In the league. Yeah. 468 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 6: I don't think people realize how special it is and 469 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 6: how hard it is as an offense to operate on 470 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 6: the road when your crowd is absurd, like for me 471 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 6: as a center going on the road when it is 472 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 6: when you can't hear yourself, the communication and everything is 473 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 6: so much harder, and that really will frazzle on offense. 474 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 6: So the lotter we can be and we are so loud, 475 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 6: it is a huge advantage for us on defense. 476 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: That's gonna be a crazy environment. I think the Tigers 477 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 2: are going on next door. 478 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: Obviously it's going to be crazy in there. 479 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 2: You get another NFC playoff rematch, an important game in 480 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: the NFC because at the end, you know those tie 481 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: breakers and things like that are gonna matter. 482 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: It should be a fun one. What's the vibe in 483 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: the locker room going into this one? What's the feeling. 484 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 6: I think we're excited, we know we're going to have 485 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 6: our hands full. We know there's very talented team on 486 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 6: offense and defense, and it's going to be a great 487 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 6: test for us. 488 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: Well, it should be a really fun game. He is 489 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: frank right now, all pro center, one of the best 490 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 2: in the business. Thanks for joining the twenty in the podcast. 491 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate you for sure. 492 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: You welcome back to the twenty then the Huddle podcast, 493 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: and I'm very happy to welcome Scott Smith, the senior 494 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 2: writer editor over at Buccaneers dot com. He does a 495 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 2: great job covering everything Bucks and Scott. I feel like 496 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: a little bit of deja vous. I had Jordan Redriek 497 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 2: from the Rams here last week, and now I've got you. 498 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: It's like a playoff do over here to start the 499 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: regular season. 500 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, and we talked last year last year, and I 501 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 5: enjoyed that quite a bit. Didn't enjoy the outcome of 502 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 5: the games all that much, although that playoff game up 503 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 5: in Detroit was it was a pretty good game. It 504 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 5: was tied going into the fourth quarter, so disappointed in 505 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 5: how it ended, but we certainly felt like we played 506 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 5: well well. 507 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 2: I have to ask you to start obviously a big 508 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: win for the books week one, you know, really took 509 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 2: care of business against Washington. But are you being signed 510 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 2: to play cornerback for the Buccaneers this Sunday? Because, boy, 511 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: that that was really an issue coming out of that game. 512 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 2: Where do you guys stand in terms of the cornerback 513 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: position in your health in the secondary. 514 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 5: Well, we haven't got our injury report for the day yet, 515 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 5: so there's nothing official, but coach did tell us that 516 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 5: Zion McCollum, who was the starter opposite Jamel Dean and 517 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 5: then suffered a concussion, he did practice in a limited 518 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 5: fashion today. Coach bowl says he needs to see a 519 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 5: lot more before the week is done, and obviously he 520 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 5: has to clear the concussion protocol, but there's a chance 521 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 5: he'll be back. We had to put Bryce Hall on 522 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 5: injury reserve. He's the guy who came in for Zion 523 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 5: McCollum because he hurt his ankle, and then the next 524 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 5: man in would have been Josh Hayes, as second year 525 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 5: player we drafted last year, but he heard his ankle 526 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 5: on a special teams play, so we were down to 527 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 5: no corner. We only have four active corners that day, 528 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 5: and so one of our second year safety who played 529 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 5: slot corner last year came in to play outside corner, 530 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 5: a position a position he hadn't take a snap at 531 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 5: since he was a sophomore in high school Christian Izzian, 532 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 5: and he actually did a really good job. However, he's 533 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 5: probably not going to play there this week because Antoine 534 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 5: Winfield Junior is probably not gonna play due to a 535 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 5: foot injury, and they want to play Christian isy In 536 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 5: at safety now at pre safety. So uh, that's probably 537 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 5: how it'll shake out. We see, we'll see how some 538 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 5: of these injuries go. We also have an undrafted rookie 539 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 5: they like named Tyree Funderberg, and we resent a guy 540 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 5: who was on our practice squad last last year named 541 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 5: Keenan Isaac, so we have options there. It's the same 542 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 5: thing the coaches always say, next man up, So we'll 543 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 5: see how it goes. 544 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 3: Now. 545 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 2: There's a lot of moving parts obviously there with with 546 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: with the secretary going into an important game because you 547 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: know this is obviously two teams that face each other 548 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 2: in the playoffs last year, face each other in the 549 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: regular season. That Week six game was you know, important 550 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 2: for seeding and stuff like that. You don't know where 551 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: that's going to end up. You know, at the at 552 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: the end of the year here with two teams that 553 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 2: are expected to be in the mix in the playoffs. 554 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 2: But Scott, what was your impression of the win last 555 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: week against Washington? What was your biggest takeaway from from 556 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: from that match up? 557 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 5: In that win, Well, I think it's how efficient and 558 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 5: productive the offense was right out of the gate. As 559 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 5: you know, shorter preseasons and more teams like we didn't 560 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 5: are not playing their starters a lot in the preseason. 561 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 5: RS only got one drive and so it would have 562 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,959 Speaker 5: not been surprising for both teams to kind of come 563 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 5: out and be a little bit rusty on offense. But 564 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 5: the Bucks scored on their first five drives, then punted once, 565 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 5: and then scored three more times before a kneel down. 566 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 5: So seven scores in eight possessions is pretty darn good. 567 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 5: And it was really sort of a nice test run 568 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 5: for Liam Cohen and his new offense, and there was 569 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 5: a lot to like about it. There was a lot 570 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 5: to like about a running game that looks a little 571 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 5: bit better and now has two contributors in Rashad White 572 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 5: and Bucky Irving, and just I think the key to 573 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 5: me was we were nine to thirteen on third downs, 574 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 5: And what Liam Cohen said a lot during press conferences 575 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 5: leading up to the season was he wants this offense 576 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 5: and Baker in particular, to have answers. So when they 577 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 5: go out there and maybe they were thinking they were 578 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 5: going to see zone and then it looks like, man, 579 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 5: they have answers for that or vice versa. And they 580 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 5: have a lot a variety of run plays, and I 581 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 5: think the answers showed up on third downs nine of thirteen. 582 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 5: Is was the best of any team did this weekend. 583 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were really good on third down, and really 584 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 2: the passing game in general was really good. Baker makingfil 585 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 2: was efficient. Obviously, Mike Evans is Mike Evans, ten straight 586 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: years with one thousand receiving yards. He's always an issue. 587 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 2: I think that'll be one of the really interesting matchups 588 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 2: in this one comes Sunday. Is is that passing attack, 589 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: those weapons on the outside against really a very new 590 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 2: look Detroit secondary led by a guy that you guys 591 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 2: are pretty familiar with over there, Carlton Davis third. 592 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: Just we saw week one what he can do. A 593 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: veteran guy. 594 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: But you know what did he show you over you know, 595 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: six years in Tampa Bay? What kind of player is 596 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: Detroit getting and how much can maybe that help maybe 597 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: both sides, because those are gonna be two guys very 598 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 2: familiar with each other. Mike Evans is gonna be familiar 599 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: with Carlton vice versa. And how might that dynamic work 600 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: Sunday as well. 601 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that last point is a good one 602 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 5: and it will be interesting, interesting to see who that 603 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 5: gives the advantage to, offensive player or defender. I don't 604 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 5: know yet, but yeah, Carlton really had a nice I 605 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 5: think six years here when he was definitely when he 606 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 5: was fully healthy and when he was playing in his peak, 607 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 5: he was I think he was a very underrated corner 608 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 5: for many of those years. For some stretch he had 609 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 5: a whole lot of pass breakups. I think he led 610 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 5: the league over a course of two season span at 611 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 5: one point, and he just he was a guy. He 612 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 5: was the only guy that we've really had in recent 613 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 5: years that there were certain games where you would take 614 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 5: him and have him shadow one specific receiver and he 615 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 5: did that really well on a couple occasions. So you 616 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 5: guys obviously got a very good player and you saw 617 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 5: that in Week one. The familiarity factor is going to 618 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 5: be interesting though, and. 619 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to those veteran receivers. Now on the 620 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: other side is Terry and Arnold a rookie. He's only 621 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 2: played one game, look pretty good against the Rams, but 622 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 2: he'll obviously be tested. That should be one of the 623 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: fun matchups. Yeah, I heard that Baker Mayfield talk and 624 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: when the schedule came out that this was maybe one 625 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 2: of those games that some of those guys had had, 626 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 2: you know, circle when the schedule comes out, just because 627 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 2: of the way obviously last year ended in Detroit in 628 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: a playoff loss, and now you get to go back 629 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 2: there so early this week. Is that one that that 630 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 2: guys have been looking forward to once the schedule came 631 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 2: out maybe a little bit. 632 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: The chance of redemption in Detroit. 633 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 5: Absolutely, definitely one hundred percent. And just today Baker Mayfield said, 634 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 5: I think another big part of this is that the 635 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 5: Buccaneers considered playing the Lions a great measuring stick. So 636 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 5: you said it earlier. It's early in the season. We 637 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 5: don't know how this outcome will affect playoff seedings or 638 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 5: who wins divisions and so on. But no matter who 639 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 5: wins the game, if the Buccaneers feel like they're on 640 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,719 Speaker 5: an equal footing with the Lions this weekend, especially up 641 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 5: there in that Rockets environment, they will consider that a 642 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 5: good measuring stick, and that's you know, there's I guess 643 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 5: I would put it this way. There aren't high national 644 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 5: expectations for the Bucks yet again this year, despite three 645 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 5: straight division titles and us pretty much keeping everybody we 646 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 5: had last year. There's a lot more obviously expectations internally. 647 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 5: But beating Washington in the first week after they you know, 648 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 5: pretty much struggled last year and have a rookie quarterback 649 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 5: isn't something that gave the Nashville media a whole lot 650 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 5: of reason to move us up a power ranking or whatever. Now, 651 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 5: if the Buccaneers look like they're on equal footing with 652 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 5: the Lions, especially in Detroit, that could change some people's minds. 653 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you this, Dan Campbell and everybody 654 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 2: at the Meer Performance Center isn't taking the isn't overlooking 655 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 2: the Bucks. They know that's a darn good football team. 656 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: It took everything that they needed to do to beat 657 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 2: that team in the division playoffs. Obviously came down to 658 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 2: the last minute, the last drive there. So you know, 659 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,479 Speaker 2: they're certainly not being overlooked here, especially if you look 660 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 2: at the way Baker Mayfield that offense played last week. 661 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 2: I think Detroit's defense has their work cut out for him. 662 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 2: But Scott, maybe one or two keys for you and 663 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 2: for the bucks for in this matchup in Detroit, one 664 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: or two things they really have to do well to 665 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: walk out of Detroit with a victory. 666 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 5: Well, I'll start with the obvious cliche one, but I 667 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 5: think it's particularly true here. In the two losses to 668 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 5: Detroit last year, I believe the combined turn over margin 669 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 5: was three to zero in your favor. And it's hard, 670 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,479 Speaker 5: really really hard on the road, especially in that environment 671 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 5: in Ford Field, especially if you do it early and 672 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 5: allow that whole building and the team to gain some 673 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 5: early momentum by turning the ball over early. You really 674 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 5: have to avoid that. It is really hard to win 675 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 5: on the road when you turn the ball over. So 676 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 5: we didn't have any takeaways, we didn't have any turnovers 677 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 5: in our first game. I think that could swing it 678 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 5: a little bit. And I think you've talked about it 679 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 5: a lot here, But how well will Baker and our 680 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 5: great offensive pass catching weapons fare against this new looking 681 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 5: Detroit secondary, Because I mean Baker threw the ball to 682 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 5: our top three targets pretty much obviously are Mike Evans, 683 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 5: Chris Godwin, and the running back were Sean White. He 684 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 5: threw twenty passes in their direction in that game and 685 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 5: completed nineteen of them. I mean, that's an unbelievable efficiency rate. 686 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 5: The only one that wasn't complete was a scrambling overthrow 687 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 5: in the end zone to Mike Evans. So if they 688 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 5: can do that kind of efficiency and can get guys 689 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 5: open in the secondary, that would because this could end 690 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 5: up being a shootout with all of the injury players 691 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 5: we have on defense. We also have some injury problems 692 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 5: up front on the defensive line, So injuries at the 693 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 5: front and the back is going to make it even 694 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 5: harder to stop that great Detroit defense. So I think 695 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 5: the Buccaneers have to be able to score to keep up, 696 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 5: and how Baker and his targets do against those new 697 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 5: guys in the secondary is probably the key. 698 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, you've been around Mike Evans for a 699 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: long time. 700 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: You know him. Does he even marvel you? 701 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 2: Because from the outside looking in, you look at ten 702 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: straight one thousand yard seasons, you just look at the 703 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 2: consistency with him, the size and the speed, the ability 704 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 2: to catch fifty fifty balls. I love the comment that 705 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: Baker made. I think it was earlier today that that, yeah, 706 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: it's not really a fifty to fifty ball when it's 707 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: up to Mike Evans. I think that's advantage mister Evans. 708 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 2: He said, but do you marvel at that guy's just 709 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 2: consistent talent weekend week out, year in year out. 710 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 5: I guess we've come to expect it now, but it 711 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 5: is pretty amazing. And two touchdowns in his first game. Uh, 712 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 5: he looks just the same. Last year, he looked like 713 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,719 Speaker 5: he was in twenty seventeen form. He looks just as 714 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 5: good now. I don't know if did you happen to 715 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 5: see Kyle Brants peace on him today? 716 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: I didn't know. 717 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 5: He had teased that he had a hot take on Twitter. 718 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 5: He had teased that he had a hot take about Mike, 719 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 5: but then he didn't share it for like a day, 720 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 5: And today he came out and he said, Mike Evans 721 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 5: is the greatest player in Buccaneers history. Now, he did 722 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 5: acknowledge that he meant the word greatest, not necessarily best, 723 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 5: because we have five guys in the Hall of Fame. 724 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 5: They're all on the defensive side. But Kyle's argument was, 725 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 5: he's been so consistent for so long, and he's a 726 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 5: great guy in the locker room, he's a team leader, 727 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 5: he's just a great dude first of all. And to 728 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 5: have all those together, and Kyle's opinion makes him the 729 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 5: greatest buccaneer ever. I'd probably have to do a little 730 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 5: thinking to see if I agree or not, but he's 731 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 5: definitely up there, and you said it yourself. He's just 732 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 5: so consistent, year after year, game after game. He's never 733 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 5: played fewer than thirteen games in a season. As you know, 734 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 5: he's he's at ninety six touchdowns now, which is twelfth 735 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 5: all time, and he's four away from becoming the eleventh 736 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 5: player in NFL history to get one hundred touchdown catches. 737 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 5: He is, he's been a joy to be around for 738 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 5: more than a decade now and he's still going strong. 739 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 2: Well that the Lions will certainly have their hands full 740 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 2: with him, and he's obviously been a guy that has 741 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: been around. The Lions know him very well. But maybe 742 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: who's a guy who's maybe new to this year or 743 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: maybe has an increased role. Maybe it wasn't a big 744 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: part of that Week six game, wasn't a big part 745 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: of the division game. But maybe who could be a 746 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 2: factor Sunday afternoon here in Detroit for the Bucks. 747 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll go with our rookie center, Graham Barton, who 748 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 5: we drafted him out of Duke. He primarily played tackle 749 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 5: of Duke, but the plan all long was to move 750 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 5: him to center, and he did win a competition for 751 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 5: that job, and in the preseason and then in this 752 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 5: first game, he has really graded out very highly with 753 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 5: the coaches. He's he's a guy that's very athletic. You 754 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 5: could see on tape him and our right guard Cody 755 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 5: malk Mauk, they have good speed for that position. I mean, 756 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 5: you guys have penned Penney Suel, so you know what 757 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 5: I'm talking about. He can get all over the field. 758 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 5: He can get downfield twenty thirty yards on the screen 759 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 5: and he's just moving guys at the line of scrimmage. 760 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 5: And our run game last year was not very good. 761 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 5: It was a little better at the end of season. 762 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 5: I don't remember how he did in the playoff game 763 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 5: up there, but that was a huge point of emphasis 764 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 5: and we needed to get better in the interior line 765 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 5: because the tackle's played pretty well. So we got a 766 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 5: new center in Graham Barton. We got Ben Brettison and 767 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 5: he's played very well from the Giants. And then our 768 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 5: second year guy, Cody Mauk, a second round pick a 769 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 5: year ago, really put on a lot of strength and 770 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 5: size in the offseason because that was really his main 771 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 5: deficiency as a rookie. He's very good technically and very athletic, 772 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 5: but he just was having a little trouble with some 773 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 5: of the more bigger, more powerful guys. So you've got 774 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 5: those guys now actually moving guys and creating lanes and 775 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 5: cutback lanes for our running backs, and it's the running 776 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 5: game has completely revitalized so far, and that could be 777 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 5: a major difference between this team now and the last 778 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 5: time you guys saw it. 779 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Graham Barton was a guy that I loved in 780 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: the draft. I was kind of hoping he would he 781 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 2: would fall to Detroit. Uh, it worked out with him 782 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 2: getting obviously Terry and Arnold, But but he's a guy 783 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:08,719 Speaker 2: that I really love. 784 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: Fits what they do. 785 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 2: When you talk about the wrong game, I can see 786 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 2: that having watched his tape at Duke and the way 787 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 2: that he can move people. I can see how that's 788 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 2: an instant upgrade. But you guys played in Detroit in 789 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 2: the playoffs obviously last year. You know the atmosphere. You 790 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 2: can expect a similar thing. If it's anything like last week, 791 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 2: those guys were, those people in that same were turned 792 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 2: up and it's going to be loud. Do anything different 793 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 2: to prepare for that? Or does it help that you 794 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 2: were just there, you know, at the end of last 795 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 2: year and probably its most frenzy environment. Does it help 796 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: that they know what they're in for. 797 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so, And I feel like they felt 798 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 5: like they handled that pretty well. And really a lot 799 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 5: of our guys after that game and this week before 800 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 5: this game, I've talked about how much they really enjoyed 801 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 5: playing in that atmosphere. It just gets them pumped up too. 802 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 5: But it is obviously a challenge, and if you saw 803 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 5: us in our practice practice field, like any team that's 804 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 5: coming up to play there, you're practicing the things you 805 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 5: do in order to be able to communicate. That doesn't 806 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 5: mean it'll be easy, but they do feel like they 807 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 5: did a pretty good job of communicating last year, and 808 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 5: so that probably gives them confidence that they're going into 809 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 5: this game that they can do it again. 810 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 2: Well, it should be a really fun atmosphere, Scott. It's 811 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: two really good teams that everything are going to be 812 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 2: right there in the end in the playoff picture in 813 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: the NFC. So it's a big two week two matchup. 814 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 2: You gotta love those in the NFL. It's fun you, sir, 815 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 2: have a safe trip up here. I will make sure 816 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 2: I come and say hello and thank you. As always, 817 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 2: always great stuff from you from a Bucks perspective. I 818 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 2: appreciate you taking the time. Scott Smith, senior writer and 819 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 2: editor for Buccaneers dot Com. 820 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 5: Thanks a lot, Tim, I really enjoyed it. 821 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the twenty minute Huddle Podcast. 822 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: And I am very excited you guys and gals out 823 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 2: there because I have absolutely one of the best in 824 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: the business, Stacey Dales, who just got promoted to senior 825 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 2: national reporter. 826 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: Very well deserved. 827 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 2: Stacey has her hand on everything in the NFL. She 828 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 2: got a pulse on everything. Great information here. We're gonna 829 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 2: get into lines, we're gonna get into the NFC North 830 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 2: a little bit. 831 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: Stacey, thank you so much for joining me. Welcome to 832 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: the twenty Huddle Podcast. How you been. 833 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 3: Hey, what's up, Tim? Thanks for the intro. That was 834 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 3: super cool. I've been good. 835 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 7: I've been ready for football for so long, and we 836 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 7: had an interesting Week one and here we're on to 837 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 7: Week two, and fortunately I am headed to Detroit because 838 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 7: I get the Bucks and Lions in Week two. 839 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 3: Can't wait. 840 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: Oh that's perfect. 841 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 2: We usually talk, you know, obviously before the season, we 842 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 2: give kind of a preview of of of the NFC North. 843 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 2: But I love the fact that we get to talk 844 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 2: after week one because now some stuff has happened here, 845 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 2: We've got kind of an idea of who these teams 846 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,919 Speaker 2: are starting to be. Well, let's start in Detroit, since 847 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: you are doing Detroit and and Tampa. Obviously a great 848 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 2: Week one win over you know, a team we I 849 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 2: think we both expect to be right in the mix 850 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 2: in the playoff picture in the NFC in the Rams. 851 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: What was your biggest takeaway from from that Week one 852 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 2: win for Detroit. 853 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 7: I think my biggest takeaway was the overtime drive, right, 854 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 7: I mean, it was impressive, you know, going back and 855 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 7: looking at you first of all, it was just such 856 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 7: an exciting atmosphere. Matthew Stafford through the ball of kazillion times, 857 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 7: as you know, Tim, But I found the resolve of 858 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 7: the Lions to show up, like, let's carry this thing 859 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 7: over from the NFC Championship and show why we were 860 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 7: in that game and why we're you know, trying to 861 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 7: play for Super Bowl this season once again. First overtime 862 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,919 Speaker 7: victory since twenty sixteen for the Detroit Lions. So when 863 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 7: you could finish a game in that fashion and on 864 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 7: the ground, by the way, with that drive it was 865 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 7: what was an eight place seven yard touchdown drive to 866 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,439 Speaker 7: win it. Just the resolve, the conviction in the play 867 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 7: calling right and to see demo scorer at the end 868 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 7: of that drive and just close out the deal at home. 869 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 7: To me, that's the mark of tried and tested football team. 870 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 7: And it's only Week one, so I think that bodes well. 871 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 2: No, that's a good line, and I think how I 872 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 2: wrote it or how I described it after the game 873 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 2: is good football teams in this league win games when 874 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 2: they don't play their best football. And that's I think 875 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 2: one takeaway from Detroit is you didn't play they didn't 876 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 2: play their best football, but they still found a way. 877 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 2: You talked about that drive and look, I'm on Roth 878 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,720 Speaker 2: Saint Brown three catches thirteen yards and you still produce 879 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 2: enough points to win a game like that. So you know, 880 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 2: other guys step up. Jamison Williams and you know obviously Demo, 881 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,959 Speaker 2: who you talked about when you I think we both 882 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 2: stays can expect this offense to be pretty good. We 883 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 2: expect Saint Brown to get rolling in this passing it 884 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 2: to get rolling a little bit. But to me, it's 885 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 2: always been how far this Lion's team will go? Is 886 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 2: how far this kind of revamp, new look defense can 887 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 2: take them? 888 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: Do you agree? 889 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 7: I do. I felt, like you know, I have just 890 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 7: notorious flashbacks of the second half against the San Francisco 891 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 7: forty nine ers in. 892 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 3: That game, a game that I was at, and it 893 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 3: was just sitting in them. 894 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 7: Press box and watching that thing unfold and watching Brock 895 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 7: Purty just go off. 896 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 3: Not to bring it back, because the past is the past. 897 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 7: In history is history, but uh, there's a reason that 898 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 7: the Detroit Lions retooled that defense in the fashion that 899 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 7: they did. I can't wait to see the growth of 900 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 7: Terry and Arnold and you know Ennis Rakestraw, and I 901 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 7: obviously love the addition of Carlton Davis, who hopefully will 902 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 7: give a few nuggets to his team on his former team, 903 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 7: the Tampa Bay Bucks this week. But I just I'm 904 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 7: just so anxious to see what Like Brad Holmes is 905 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 7: one of the best gms in the business and has 906 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 7: put together this roster over the last few seasons, and 907 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 7: I'm just really fascinated to see where this defense can go. 908 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 7: Kirby Joseph does he have Matthew Stafford's. 909 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 3: Number or. 910 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 2: I think it might Well, you know, you know the 911 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 2: little quarrel between them last week obviously when he had 912 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 2: the hit you know that took out what was the 913 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 2: tight ends name Higbee Ye, he'd be took him out, 914 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 2: you know, obviously, and he had had the hit on 915 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 2: TG hockets and so you know him and Stafford get 916 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 2: after him. I thought about that incident right away when 917 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 2: Matthew through that interception to Kirby, like, oh, that had 918 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 2: to feel so great for Kirby. 919 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 3: Yeah. 920 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 7: Well, we had him on in the off season on 921 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 7: some of our programming on NFL Network and he has 922 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 7: no shame in anything. 923 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 5: He is. 924 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 3: That guy has conviction. But you know, that's kind of 925 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 3: the roster they've built. 926 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 7: And that's where Terry and Arnold A guy like that 927 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 7: comes in and adds that attitude. But you're right, Tim, 928 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 7: if this defense can take a step this season, the 929 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,280 Speaker 7: offense is all there. 930 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 3: I'm okay with am and Ra's performance. 931 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 7: Actually, I mean you want more out of him because 932 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 7: he's an all Pro type receiver. But you know, see 933 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 7: Jamison Williams kind of take off and have the performance 934 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 7: that he did a career high. If he can do that, 935 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 7: almon Roe, Saint Brown's going to find more opportunities. 936 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 3: I mean, as you know, he is the. 937 00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 7: Number one, you know, sort of chess piece that the 938 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 7: opposing defenses are trying to take away. Outside of the 939 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 7: run game, you're pleased if you if you ran the 940 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:06,959 Speaker 7: ball the way you did. 941 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 3: I think, you know, if you listen to. 942 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 7: Todd Bowles, like he acknowledged this week when he talked 943 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 7: about the Lions, they can beat you in every way, 944 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 7: and I think the. 945 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 3: Bucks are also a team that can do that. 946 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 7: This is going to be a slug fest, I think 947 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 7: on Sunday between these two football teams, right Tim, Like 948 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 7: Baker Mayfield to me was the highest performing quarterback in 949 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 7: Week one of all the QBS with his you know, 950 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,720 Speaker 7: four touchdown performance, and you see a healthy Chris Godwin 951 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,240 Speaker 7: opposite Mike Evans. 952 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 3: This offense can is and can. 953 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 7: Be very explosive, but mostly they were efficient and the 954 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 7: offensive line did a good job. 955 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 3: So this will be a fun game on Sunday. 956 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 957 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 2: One addition to that Detroit defense too, that'll be big. 958 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 2: This week's stace is DJ Reader, he big free agent acquisition. Yeah, 959 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 2: and I just talked to him in the locker room 960 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 2: on Wednesday and he's excited about kind of making his 961 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 2: you know, the Lions debut, hutch A, Lee McNeil, DJ 962 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,720 Speaker 2: Reader And we'll see if market is Davenport. He played 963 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,439 Speaker 2: really well there too, So it should be fun. And 964 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 2: I agree that it could be a slugout too, especially 965 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 2: when you think about all the injuries that Tampa is 966 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,879 Speaker 2: dealing with in their secondary. I think me and you 967 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 2: might have a chance to play corner for the Tampa 968 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers Nars on Sunday. They're so down on guys, 969 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 2: so I could see this being high scoring, kind of 970 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 2: a shootout and really fun. All right, let's let's flip 971 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 2: over to Chicago a little bit. Now you live in Chicago, 972 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 2: you are very familiar with the Chicago Bears. Is this 973 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 2: basically just kind of a love You love to see 974 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 2: them win a football game, right when with special teams 975 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 2: and defense. But how concerned are you with the way 976 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams played. I think we all maybe were a 977 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 2: little spoiled last year with how c J. Shroud came 978 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 2: in and we think maybe that's something that that you 979 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 2: should do. But that's a very rare case. Guys struggle. 980 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 2: It takes some time. How concerned are they in Chicago 981 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 2: about the way Caleb Williams and that offense played or 982 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 2: are they just happy that they you know, it was 983 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 2: a full team effort to get that win. 984 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 3: Yeah. 985 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 7: Well I was at the game that was my first 986 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:15,240 Speaker 7: game this season Chicago Tennessee, and you're right. The offense 987 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 7: just was paltry at best on Sunday. But that's what 988 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 7: you expect from a rookie quarterback. If I recall, and 989 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 7: going back in our research notes, CJ. Stroud's first game 990 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 7: with the Houston Texans wasn't great statistically, but his second 991 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 7: week was much better. So like Bobby Slowick and him 992 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 7: are going into year two and ironically they faced the 993 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 7: Bears in week two the Houston Texans, so. 994 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 3: That'll be fun to watch how they adjust. 995 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 7: I just think for Caleb Williams, we knew and we 996 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,839 Speaker 7: know the Bears defense is going to be really good, 997 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 7: right Their secondary is elite, absolutely elite. To see what 998 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 7: Tyreek Stevenson and Jalen Johnson did against Tennessee and then 999 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 7: the turnovers, the takeaways, I think you clearly see why 1000 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 7: Matt Eberflus is one of the best defensive play callers 1001 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 7: in the National Football League. When you get a pressure 1002 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,240 Speaker 7: in the you know, I think it was the fourth quarter, Yeah, 1003 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 7: and you get a pressure from DeMarcus Walker that leads 1004 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 7: to a pick six by Tyreek Stevenson off of a 1005 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 7: brilliant play call. That should excite Bears fans, but it's 1006 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 7: going to take time. I just think we expect like 1007 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 7: immediate results now from these rookies. Can you imagine, Tim, 1008 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 7: I don't profess to know what it's like to have 1009 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 7: four two hundred and fifty plus to three point fifty 1010 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 7: or three hundred pound defensive lineman coming at me in 1011 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 7: a pocket as a rookie quarterback in the NFL. I mean, 1012 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,919 Speaker 7: it's just it's hard for veteran quarterbacks at times like it. 1013 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 3: I just think you got to be patient. 1014 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 7: But I also think that, like Chicago needs to find 1015 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 7: a run game, I think that, you know, rookie quarterbacks 1016 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 7: need to take the check down, like when I go 1017 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 7: back and watch Monday Night Football and Brock Party. Rock 1018 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 7: Party is a great processor of the game. We saw 1019 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,359 Speaker 7: that in his rookie campaign last year. 1020 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 3: But he just makes the easy throw. 1021 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,439 Speaker 7: Like you know, you see Jared Goff make the easy throw, 1022 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 7: You'll see Baker do the same thing. I just think, 1023 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 7: you know, make the easy throw. Get the tight ends involved. 1024 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 7: I don't think Cole Kmett was involved enough on Sunday 1025 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 7: in the past game maybe pass Pro because their offensive 1026 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 7: line struggled with some of the looks that Dinnard Wilson 1027 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 7: threw at the rookie quarterback. But he's going to see 1028 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 7: a whole lot more of those looks here to come. 1029 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 7: So patience is really a virtue for young quarterbacks and 1030 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 7: offenses to start any NFL season. So defense is there, right, 1031 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,320 Speaker 7: But I think it's going to take time for any offense, 1032 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,320 Speaker 7: let alone a rookie quarterback led offense. 1033 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 2: No, I think it's a great point by you, because 1034 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 2: what's the quarterback's best friend, right, that slot receiver, right 1035 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 2: that that tight end over them, all those short easy 1036 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 2: throws first read, it's not there swinging out to a back. 1037 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 2: They've got a pretty good one there that can catch 1038 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 2: the football out of the backfield. And so I agree 1039 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 2: with you one hundred percent, and just make the game 1040 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 2: easier for him, make it simpler for him. I know 1041 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,879 Speaker 2: you want to make the big place and he's got 1042 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 2: a big arm and he can scramble and look down 1043 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 2: the field. But those are hard plays. Those are hard 1044 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 2: plays for veteran quarterbacks to make. Make the easy ones. 1045 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 2: And then if you get that look or the play 1046 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 2: breaks down, use his natural athleticism. Make a play, but 1047 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 2: don't make it be a big part of the offense. 1048 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 2: Simple easy, get it out of his hands, then open 1049 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 2: it up for the big play. I think it's a 1050 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 2: great point by you. 1051 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no question. 1052 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 7: And even like when I look at Monday Night Football 1053 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 7: with Aaron Rodgers, you know, I just think Aaron Rodgers 1054 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 7: plays the quarterback position brilliantly like I always have. I've 1055 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 7: watched him do things that like there's no way he 1056 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,760 Speaker 7: could have done that, but he did, like manufacture comebacks 1057 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 7: in his career the way he has. There's a reason 1058 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 7: he's a four time MVP. But like, did he use 1059 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 7: a tight end against the San Francisco forty nine ers? No, 1060 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 7: And I just think you become so vast. And Shane 1061 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 7: Waldron is a coach that we know historically has loved 1062 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 7: the use of tight end, so I'll be interested to 1063 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 7: see how he incorporates them this week. But by and large, 1064 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 7: what a win week one win for the NFC North. 1065 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 7: I mean, the Vikings to you know, dismantle the Giants 1066 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,720 Speaker 7: and then to see obviously Chicago win a game that last. 1067 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 3: Year they probably would have lost. 1068 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 7: Tim, I don't know if you agree, but like they 1069 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 7: closed out a game, and then the Lions showed why 1070 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 7: they were the best team in the North last season 1071 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 7: against a really good Rams squad and a quarterback who's 1072 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,320 Speaker 7: going to be in the Hall of Fame, like in 1073 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 7: Matthew Stafford. 1074 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 3: So I just think it was a successful weekend. 1075 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 7: And we'll have to see what happens to the Packers 1076 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 7: with Malik will will Willis at QB. 1077 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you brought it up, and that was the next 1078 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 2: one I was going to get to. Is is this 1079 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 2: in Green Bays? It just about surviving with Malik, you know, 1080 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 2: Willis not getting too far behind. We don't know how 1081 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 2: long Jordan Love is going to be out, like three 1082 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 2: to four weeks, three to five you hear, it'll depend, 1083 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 2: But is it? Is it just really they've got enough, 1084 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 2: good enough, good enough team over there to win and 1085 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,479 Speaker 2: to compete in the NFC, and some have even said 1086 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:00,720 Speaker 2: to be a super favorite. 1087 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: But if you get too far behind, now you've you've 1088 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 1: got to play behind the chase. Is it? 1089 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 2: Is it literally for the next half you know month? 1090 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,919 Speaker 2: Is it just don't get too far behind without Jordan Love? 1091 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,359 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think when I think about Malik Willis and 1092 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,760 Speaker 7: we don't like plung Years ago, I had a strained mcl, 1093 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 7: a sprain mcl from basketball, and like, you have to 1094 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 7: let it. 1095 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 2: He Stacey's a heck of a basketball player, by the way, 1096 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 2: a long time ago. 1097 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 8: Broken My pieces are all broken now. But you have 1098 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 8: to let it heal, and then you have to get 1099 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 8: confident again on it that you're not at a you know, 1100 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 8: a place of like mentally concern and overly cautious, I 1101 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 8: would say, especially for a quarterback in the NFL, who 1102 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,360 Speaker 8: you know, Jordan Love is a pocket passer. 1103 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 3: I mean he you know, when I look at him. 1104 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 7: He's really learned how to climb the pocket really well, 1105 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 7: and an incredible throw against the Eagles in Brazil that 1106 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 7: I can recall. 1107 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 3: I can't remember when it was in the game, but. 1108 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 7: You know, he wants to throw from the pocket, and 1109 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 7: I just think he's going to have to get that 1110 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 7: confidence when he comes back. 1111 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 3: But for Malik Willis, who is he right tim? 1112 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 7: We know he's a quarterback with a huge arm and 1113 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 7: you know obviously played in Tennessee as a backup. He's 1114 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 7: incredibly athletic, and so I think Matt Lafleur is underrated 1115 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 7: in terms of putting the skill set of his quarterback 1116 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 7: in the operation to succeed. 1117 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 3: And I think that he will do that get those 1118 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 3: legs going. 1119 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 7: But Josh Jacobs is going to be extremely important, and 1120 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 7: you know, without aj Dillon in the lineup due to injury, 1121 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,919 Speaker 7: he's got to become the man like we've seen Aaron 1122 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 7: Jones be it obviously is now in Minnesota. But like they, 1123 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 7: I just think they're going to need to figure out 1124 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 7: ways to run the ball, get those legs going. By 1125 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 7: Malik Willis and again another quarterback, because he'll have to 1126 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 7: learn very quickly get the ball out of his hands 1127 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 7: quickly to those that array of playmakers that. 1128 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: The Packers have, and there's a lot of them there, 1129 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:07,840 Speaker 1: so many. 1130 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,879 Speaker 2: How strange was it to see the four to three 1131 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 2: verse three four Jeff Hafley, the new defensive coordinator that 1132 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,839 Speaker 2: I mean, it's been how long, Stacy that we've seen 1133 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 2: this kind of defense that we knew, you knew Green 1134 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 2: Bay was going to come with that three four and 1135 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 2: now it's just that that four to three look is 1136 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 2: a little bit weird to me. But that's a good 1137 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,359 Speaker 2: that's a good defensive unit that I think can help 1138 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 2: stem the. 1139 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 1: Loss of Jordan Love too. 1140 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 2: They've got some playmakers on that side of the ball 1141 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 2: and and you know, I think that's going to be 1142 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,439 Speaker 2: a big key part of it as well. 1143 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,479 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was kind of foreign watching them because they've 1144 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,720 Speaker 7: they've been in the Joe Barry thing for so long, 1145 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 7: right and with all that shell and underneath type stuff 1146 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 7: that they would just kind of hate. We're going to 1147 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 7: give you that, but we're not going to give you 1148 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 7: the big play. And I'll vividly remember you know, the 1149 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 7: the JayR Alexander you know, touch and go with aj Brown, 1150 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 7: and Brown just blasts them off across the middle for 1151 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 7: a huge play. And you know, I think the players 1152 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 7: are getting used to it a little bit, having the freedom, 1153 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 7: a little bit more press and like a little bit 1154 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 7: more one on one, and I think you're going to 1155 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 7: see maybe some of those playmakers kind of come alive 1156 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 7: for the Packers, like jay r Alexander. 1157 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 3: But as my dogs anoint. 1158 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 2: The show, I like, and the one got the one 1159 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 2: perked up there behind you he or the other one. 1160 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, my old, my old sugarfish Ruby. My landscapers are outside. 1161 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 7: But yeah, I it's gonna be an interesting season, Tim 1162 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 7: like with this division because I think it's extremely competitive, 1163 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 7: and uh, you know, every team has some good quarterback play. 1164 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 3: I would give. 1165 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 7: I would sort of, you know, tip my cap to 1166 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,840 Speaker 7: the Vikings and Sam Darnold and yeah, he complete his 1167 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 7: first twelve or fourteen balls against the Giants like that 1168 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 7: is Kevin O'Connell. And so you know, Kirk Cousins really 1169 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,760 Speaker 7: enjoyed some Kevin O'Connell and those play calls. 1170 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 2: Well we find out if if and I know everybody's 1171 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 2: going to say, well it was the New York Giants, 1172 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 2: all right, come on that that doesn't count, right, And no, 1173 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,440 Speaker 2: offense to the New York Giants fans out there, but 1174 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 2: the team strong lan at the moment. They play San 1175 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 2: Francisco this week. Is this now okay, Minnesota's for real. 1176 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,399 Speaker 2: We'll know that after Week two. 1177 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 3: Well, I liked their defense last year. 1178 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,839 Speaker 7: I think Brian Flores is very aggressive, the players love 1179 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,919 Speaker 7: to play in it. San Francisco is really damn good. 1180 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 7: I'm here Monday night football. I was beyond and pressed. 1181 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 3: I mean, Trent Williams walks in like off the. 1182 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 7: Street because he, you know, he was in his sort 1183 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,800 Speaker 7: of holdout thing whatever. Brandon Auk looked a little rusty 1184 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,799 Speaker 7: to me, but I mean Rock Purty looks like a 1185 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 7: ten year veteran. And for Christian McCaffrey too, and probably 1186 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 7: we'll sit out again this week for him to not play. 1187 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 7: And Mason comes in and runs for all almost one 1188 00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,879 Speaker 7: fifty on the ground like. 1189 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,360 Speaker 3: Against a New York Jets. Defense is good. 1190 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 2: They're just a machine. They're a machine offensively. 1191 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 3: They are a machine. And I sit here on a 1192 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 3: liance pod. 1193 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 7: With you, as you know, we look at last year 1194 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 7: the way it ended like, I mean, that's how good 1195 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 7: Detroit was last season. Because it doesn't get a whole 1196 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,840 Speaker 7: lot better than what Kyle Shanahan has done with those Niners. 1197 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 2: Well, I know Lions fans here are wanting to see 1198 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 2: a rematch of that contest again, hopefully here in Detroit 1199 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 2: where maybe it's a little bit different, different outcome. But 1200 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 2: the NFC, I agree with you, the NFC North that 1201 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 2: I think is very underrated across the league. 1202 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:42,319 Speaker 1: It should be fun. 1203 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 2: There's some good teams there, some teams I got to 1204 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 2: survive a little bit with some injury stuff. Detroit is still, 1205 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,799 Speaker 2: in my opinion, the head of the class, but it's 1206 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 2: a lot closer than people think. It should be a 1207 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:51,760 Speaker 2: fun division. 1208 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:53,280 Speaker 1: The stays. 1209 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 2: I really appreciate you taking the time. You are my 1210 00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 2: go to for anything NFC North. I appreciate you. Congratulations 1211 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 2: on the promotion, very well deserved, and we will all 1212 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 2: be watching you all year long for sure. 1213 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. 1214 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,359 Speaker 7: Can't wait to see you get a big hug on 1215 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,799 Speaker 7: Sunday at Ford Field, and I expect the decibels to 1216 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,720 Speaker 7: blow my ear drums. 1217 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,880 Speaker 3: I always make sure I pack my. 1218 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 1: Ear plugs, little ear protectors. You're gonna need it. 1219 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,240 Speaker 7: I do because it's an open press box. Everyone knows, 1220 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,439 Speaker 7: but it's so loud in there, like your deaf. It's 1221 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,399 Speaker 7: like you leave a concert and your ears are ringing. 1222 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,720 Speaker 7: That's what it's like at ford Field. I expect nothing 1223 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 7: less at noon kickoff or I guess one o'clock kickoff 1224 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 7: on Sunday. 1225 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be crazy down there too. The Tigers are 1226 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,359 Speaker 2: at home this weekend too, so there'll be lots going 1227 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,240 Speaker 2: on across the street and there. Detroit will be fun. 1228 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 1: Stay. 1229 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,720 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining me. I will say hello 1230 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 2: on Sunday for sure. Enjoy the trip across across the 1231 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,879 Speaker 2: way here to Detroit. Safe travels, and we will see 1232 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:55,919 Speaker 2: you Sunday. Thanks so much. 1233 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 3: Thanks my friend 1234 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:01,479 Speaker 7: Sie,