WEBVTT - New DCU Slate + Mailbag

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<v Speaker 1>Warning. This podcast contained series and reactions to the new

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<v Speaker 1>DC Slate, plus grab bag spoilers for various Marvel Comics,

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars stuff including and Or and more in our

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<v Speaker 1>mail bag, so be warned. Hello. My name is Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Concepcion and I'm Rosey Night, and welcome to extra revision

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<v Speaker 1>of the Crooked Media podcast, where we dive deep, deep, deep,

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<v Speaker 1>deep deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture.

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<v Speaker 2>In this episode, we are diving deep, deep, deep, deep deep.

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<v Speaker 2>In the previously on it's that James Gunn new DC.

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<v Speaker 2>It is wild JBG. It is weird, and we are

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<v Speaker 2>here to tell you all about it because it is.

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<v Speaker 2>There is some deep stuff there, you know. We love that.

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<v Speaker 1>In the alue, Colonel Sanders, beautiful bastard, you creature, Come

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<v Speaker 1>on those ways.

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<v Speaker 2>This is incredible. In the airlock, it's the mail bag,

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<v Speaker 2>we got questions about Marvel Comics, what we're looking forward

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<v Speaker 2>to in twenty twenty three, and more important thing to

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<v Speaker 2>note here we recorded this before the DC Slate announcement,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why some of the later answers about DC

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<v Speaker 2>films don't mention the new projects. But we will be

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<v Speaker 2>answering those questions in a future episode. And in that

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<v Speaker 2>out we have a really awesome segment from Sarah talking

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<v Speaker 2>about dungeons and dragons, which is very relevant if you've

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<v Speaker 2>been keeping up with the tabletop gaming news and as always,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to jump around, check the show notes

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<v Speaker 2>for timestamps, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into it with the huge announcement from James Gunn,

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<v Speaker 1>co CEO of DC Studios, with the announcement of the

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<v Speaker 1>DC Slate. James Gunn, the recently appointed co CEO of

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<v Speaker 1>DC Studios, revealed the upcoming slate of DC comics, movies,

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<v Speaker 1>and shows, and also did a bunch of interviews for

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<v Speaker 1>the big industry publications. And let's get into it. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, the We're All strategy is the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I think DC fans comic fans have been wanting for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, which is unify all of these kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like disparate story spaces and make one coherent, cohesive story

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<v Speaker 1>in which all the characters are the same characters played

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<v Speaker 1>by the same actors. And that includes interestingly, characters who

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<v Speaker 1>are going to voice characters on the animation side are

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<v Speaker 1>also going to be the same actors who play them

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<v Speaker 1>in live action and in cases where things are happening

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<v Speaker 1>outside of that continuity, like the sequel to Matt Reeves's

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<v Speaker 1>Batman and the end Matt Reeves Batman itself, like the

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<v Speaker 1>Joker movie you.

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<v Speaker 2>Teen Titans Go. I was so happy that they were.

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<v Speaker 2>They were like, Teen Titans Go is an Elsewaldz project. Guys,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not going anyway. And I was like, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>God, well, it's funny to me, like like it was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it. It kind of made me chuckle a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit because it was like and then things like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, matt ings his Batman Joker to the Joker

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<v Speaker 1>Empty exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, at least they know it's valuable.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I'm happy because I feel like everyone for

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, we've all been asking for an elseworld's slate,

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<v Speaker 2>and I actually think it's really clever to use it

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<v Speaker 2>for stuff that already exists, rather than what we've all

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<v Speaker 2>kind of assumed, which is you would create your else

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<v Speaker 2>worlds outside of him already existing DC universe. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>that was really smart. Also, I just want to say

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<v Speaker 2>I really like this choice to bring people over from

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<v Speaker 2>animation into live action. And also, as Gunn said, he's

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<v Speaker 2>hoping that that can cross over to gaming, because I

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<v Speaker 2>think it shows something about Gun that I think hints

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<v Speaker 2>a really massive promise of success. He already knows what

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<v Speaker 2>DC does well.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Ryan's who This is part of the lineage of

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<v Speaker 1>DC is animation to lie.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly because Matt Ryan, who is such a brilliant Constantine

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<v Speaker 2>who I still believe should get his chance to do

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<v Speaker 2>his serious R rated Constantine from the CW shows. He

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<v Speaker 2>voiced Constant in the later animated series and it was

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<v Speaker 2>such a good continuity and it made people so excited

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<v Speaker 2>to think it was the same character, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>just a small kind of niche TV audience. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be really exciting to see them continue that on.

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<v Speaker 2>And even in those CW shows, they tested this idea

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<v Speaker 2>of introducing a character in animation like Fixen and then

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<v Speaker 2>bringing them over. So I'm really excited to see that

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<v Speaker 2>done in a much more expansive way that's not just

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<v Speaker 2>little YouTube shorts to TV.

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<v Speaker 1>I totally feel the same way. Let's get into the

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<v Speaker 1>slate itself wild starting with the existing project. So Gun

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<v Speaker 1>was was very praiseful of the Slate. That is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like that they that they inherited essentially saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Peter and I got really lucky with these yeah movies.

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<v Speaker 1>So we start with Shazam Fury of the Gods. So

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<v Speaker 1>obviously bedtime. It was Zachary Levi's recent tweets, which he addressed,

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<v Speaker 1>but this kind of puts to any idea that that

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<v Speaker 1>Shazam is outside of the DCEU, And he kind of said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Shazama has always kind of been doing his

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<v Speaker 1>own thing, like even in the comics, she Sam's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like separated from a normal continuity, but will be

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<v Speaker 1>part of the DCU. Yeah, so that puts threats in

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<v Speaker 1>any country.

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<v Speaker 2>I find this very interesting though, because, like so they

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<v Speaker 2>said this will lead directly into the Flash, which will

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<v Speaker 2>then reset the DC universe. So I do think that's

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of an out for them to get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of anything they don't want. Everyone knows I'm a big

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<v Speaker 2>Shazam movie fan. I'm not a big fan of what

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<v Speaker 2>Zachary Levy was saying online, but I do think like

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<v Speaker 2>the Shazamiie, Mary, Marvel, all those other kids, I would

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<v Speaker 2>love to see them continue in the DC universe, even

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<v Speaker 2>if that's not necessarily something that we see for the

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<v Speaker 2>main Billy Batson Shazam character. I mean, who doesn't want

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<v Speaker 2>Megan Good in the in the DCU I do. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's gonna go directly into the flash, which again me

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<v Speaker 2>and Jason have been saying for a long time, is

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<v Speaker 2>it gonna come out? I still don't believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>It really feels like it's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna come out, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So important connective tissue here is, you know, Zachary Levi

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<v Speaker 1>of course came out as strongly ANTIVACS and people were

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<v Speaker 1>sharing his his Rogan clip in which he is like

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Peterson man, that guy gets it.

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<v Speaker 2>And he doesn't correct Vergan dead names a Missgender's Elliott page.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a law and negative and so a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Of negative stuff and this was getting reshared and people

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<v Speaker 1>are like, oh my gosh, I believe I'm not good now.

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<v Speaker 1>James Gunn did address this essentially saying, well, I'll quote

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<v Speaker 1>him here. Actors filmmakers that I work with are going

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<v Speaker 1>to say things that I agree with and things that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't agree with. I can't be changing my plans

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<v Speaker 1>all the time because the actor says something that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't agree with, then saying something that is clearly meant

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<v Speaker 1>to address any Flash issues and Ezra Miller issues. He

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<v Speaker 1>continued at the same token, if someone is doing something

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<v Speaker 1>that is morally reprehensible, that's a different story, and we

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<v Speaker 1>have to take that into account. So I think a

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<v Speaker 1>very measured statement. We can disagree. I think, listen, I

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<v Speaker 1>strongly disagree with everything, exactlyly I but I said at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, I'm not married to a movie franchise

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<v Speaker 1>with millions of dollars of outstanding billings left there and

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<v Speaker 1>all the kind of legal contractual bindings that occur. So

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<v Speaker 1>as the head of the studio, I get it. The

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<v Speaker 1>change Gun has statement, he has to he has to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, listen, I can't police every comment that everybody makes.

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<v Speaker 2>I personally, I personally believe it's very interesting to say like,

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<v Speaker 2>if something's morally reprehensible and then lead into the Flash

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<v Speaker 2>and be like it's the greatest movie ever, because I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like we clearly.

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<v Speaker 1>Know that those things clearly a comment.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Flash movie, which is going to become directly

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<v Speaker 2>off to Shazam, and they say Shazam is going to

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<v Speaker 2>connect to that's going to reset the entire DC universe.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, as we know that means that gives them

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<v Speaker 2>a choice to get rid of Ezra, to introduce a

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<v Speaker 2>Wally West Flash, to get rid of the parts of

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<v Speaker 2>the old DCEU that they don't want, and start off

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<v Speaker 2>with a crisis or a flash point that will lay

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<v Speaker 2>the groundwork for where the new DCU starts.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, and so the Flash June sixteenth, which Gun

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<v Speaker 1>referred to in a in a comment, I think to

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<v Speaker 1>Variety during the scrum, probably one of the greatest superhero

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<v Speaker 1>movie he's ever made. So listen, there's an element of

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<v Speaker 1>he has to say that, but he did say it's it.

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<v Speaker 2>And also, I feel like Mike dut says, I think

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<v Speaker 2>at one point the director of The Flash, Annie Mische,

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<v Speaker 2>who's been working on this movie for years, I think

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<v Speaker 2>he was probably promised the keys to the dc Kingdom

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<v Speaker 2>with this movie. This was meant to be the big

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<v Speaker 2>cohesive restart movie. And I think that people are feeling

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<v Speaker 2>very generous to him for the work that he has

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<v Speaker 2>done and the time that he's put into this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hope it really is that great, and I

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<v Speaker 2>person like, I hope that Ezra's just gone at the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning and then they're like, hey, it's Weally Wes, do

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<v Speaker 2>you love him? He's great, but yeah, I'm fine. Out

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<v Speaker 2>to be a very interesting comment I'm hearing. Apparently it

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<v Speaker 2>did test very well, so that will be interesting. And

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things that I found very interesting is

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<v Speaker 2>they then said, well, next movie is Blue Beetle, and

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<v Speaker 2>that will not be connected to the Flash or any

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<v Speaker 2>previous DCU. That is Blue Beetle is where you begin

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<v Speaker 2>with this new DCU. And he even said that the

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<v Speaker 2>character Blue Beetle, who I love and I'm really excited

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<v Speaker 2>to see, you know, the kid from Cobra Kai who's

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<v Speaker 2>so brilliant, the kid who plays mcguel take on that role.

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<v Speaker 2>And James said that character Blue Beetle is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a big part of the DCU going forward, which

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<v Speaker 2>makes a lot of sense when we get to one

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<v Speaker 2>of our new announcements, which is a character who's very

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<v Speaker 2>heavily connected to Blue Beetle.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom December twenty fifth,

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<v Speaker 1>Saffran said in interviews after the announcem meant Jason always

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<v Speaker 1>saw Aquaman as a trilogy, and which Gun added, I

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<v Speaker 1>will say, we don't have an actor playing two different roles.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is in uh as an answer to

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<v Speaker 1>the rumor that Momo could play Lobo when he's done

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<v Speaker 1>playing Aquaman. I'm sure that will probably happen.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes a lot of sense, but it will be

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<v Speaker 2>when he's done. And something that I was very excited

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<v Speaker 2>about as number one Aquaman and James Wan and Jason

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<v Speaker 2>Momoa fan they said something here that I found very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>At one point it seemed like Aquaman was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be like the step child of this this four and

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<v Speaker 2>this was going to be the outside. But James specifically

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<v Speaker 2>said that Aquaman will lead directly into their first proper

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<v Speaker 2>DCU movie, which is Superman Legacy. So that is incredibly

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<v Speaker 2>exciting to me that they see Aquaman as a direct

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<v Speaker 2>line into that decas I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the question then is, you know, with they've

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<v Speaker 1>cut the cored on all of the kind of legacy

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<v Speaker 1>projects except for Aquaman, which is going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>string that kind of leads into this. They're saying, but

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<v Speaker 1>when the Flash, and we're assuming here that the Flash

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<v Speaker 1>basically flashpoints and kills everything, it resets the entire universe,

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean that Moha Moa as Aquaman is reset

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and then he can then do lower because

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<v Speaker 1>it seems pretty something. It seems pretty definitive that Gunn

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<v Speaker 1>is saying like if you played Aquaman, you cannot then

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<v Speaker 1>go and play another character. But if that character and

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<v Speaker 1>continuity is gone wiped away, can it then happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And clear very interesting, especially as Aquaman comes out

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<v Speaker 2>at December twenty fifth, so off the flashpoints, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be very interesting to see. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>one of the threads between Aquaman and The Flash had

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<v Speaker 2>been this Michael Keaton appearance that had been like very

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<v Speaker 2>heavily rumored that apparently got taken away. Then they brought

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<v Speaker 2>in Ben Affleck. Now Ben Afflecks not in it. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like a Michael Keaton, uh Batman eighty nine thread

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<v Speaker 2>between those movies feels very James gunnish and like you

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<v Speaker 2>could still have that kind of time traveling future past

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<v Speaker 2>Bruce Wayne to kind of tie these things together. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be very interested to see how this happens. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just really glad that James C's Aquaman as a direct

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<v Speaker 2>kind of lineage to the Superman movie, which gets us

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<v Speaker 2>to these kind of what they're calling Chapter one gods

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<v Speaker 2>and monsters and.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, so this is there there phase one in which

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<v Speaker 1>the introduce our heroes and our villains.

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<v Speaker 2>And James said, this is just some but not all

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<v Speaker 2>of the projects. So this is the first This is

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<v Speaker 2>the first wave that they got okay to announce basically.

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<v Speaker 1>So we start with Creature Commandos, which is James Gunn

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<v Speaker 1>written animated series, seven episode animated series that will feature

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<v Speaker 1>the same characters who are playing the characters featured in

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<v Speaker 1>this and live action voicing the characters in this. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>such as Amanda Wa this is like played by.

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<v Speaker 2>This is such I will say, I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 2>the case. I think that I think my understanding is

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be that they had a great still

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<v Speaker 2>from the video of the Creature Commandos and it's basically

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<v Speaker 2>in the comics. It's like from Weird War and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a World War two team and it's basically all the

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<v Speaker 2>Universal monsters scratch out Universal. So you have a Frankenstein,

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<v Speaker 2>a Dracula they look like in the new Team. They

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<v Speaker 2>also have like a bride Frankenstein and a a kind

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<v Speaker 2>of creature from the backa Zone inspired by Abe Sapien.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think this is going to be that Monsters

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<v Speaker 2>fighting nazis really taken directly from their JMD Mitteus and

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Broderick stuff. That is just one of those weird

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<v Speaker 2>deep cut DC things. Interestingly, this is already in production,

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<v Speaker 2>so I assume that this is a passion project of

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<v Speaker 2>guns that was probably already in play before this ever

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<v Speaker 2>came into Also Animated.

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<v Speaker 1>You just do the voices and then exactly it's four

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<v Speaker 1>years to do, so, do the beautiful anima to the cartoons. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>then we go to Waller. This will star Viola Davis.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a TV series that spins off from a

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<v Speaker 1>Peacemaker written by Crystal Henry, who was part of the

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<v Speaker 1>writing team behind Watchmen on HBO Max and Jeremy Carver

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<v Speaker 1>from Supernatural. And this is essentially going to be Peacemaker

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<v Speaker 1>season two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I think originally it had come out saying

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to kind of be peace Maker season two.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think what James is saying now is this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be the holding pattern between peace Maker

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<v Speaker 2>two because everybody's really busy. But I think that we

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<v Speaker 2>can say it's it's spiritually peace Maker season two because

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to have Team Peacemaker in it. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be Viola playing Waller, which is really exciting, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to see those peace Maker characters come back.

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<v Speaker 2>The centering of the stories just going to focus onto

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<v Speaker 2>Amanda Walla, who I think is one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>interesting DC characters, and I think they're very smart to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of focus heavily on her and her legacy as

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<v Speaker 2>the leader of the Suicide Squad is the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>person behind Peacemaker, So I think that would be really

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<v Speaker 2>interesting and I'm sure it will be a huge smash it,

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<v Speaker 2>just like peace Maker.

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<v Speaker 1>Was next up, and this is I would put this

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<v Speaker 1>under the category of we were right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, we've been calling for an all star Superman take

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<v Speaker 1>on Superman to kind of reset all the gritty like

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<v Speaker 1>jaw clenching, mass destruction depiction of Superman and Man of

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<v Speaker 1>Steel and the Snyder verse, and I think this description

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<v Speaker 1>of Superman legacy, written by James Gunn, is the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that we'll do that. Saffran says, it's not an Orangin

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<v Speaker 1>story focuses on Superman balancing his Kryptonian heritage with his

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<v Speaker 1>human upbringing. He's the embodiment of truth justice in the

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<v Speaker 1>American way. He's kindness in a world that thinks kindness

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<v Speaker 1>as old fashioned. This sounds a lot like All starstr Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you go to this video, which is funny

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<v Speaker 2>because I read all of this news in the trade

0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.600
<v Speaker 2>because obviously the trades are great. Yeah, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>where they had the big news, and DC dot Com

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<v Speaker 2>had some great news. But I will say that if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the video, you get a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of extra information. And you talked about All Star Superman.

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<v Speaker 2>The image we get when they show this and when

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<v Speaker 2>James is talking about this is Frank quietly and it's

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<v Speaker 2>Superman sitting up above looking over Metropolis, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>I saw another really great quote from Gun that made

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<v Speaker 2>me really feel like he understands what you need in

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<v Speaker 2>a Superman story where he said he's just like a

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<v Speaker 2>big old fashioned galut and like his I love this

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<v Speaker 2>idea that James said, which was his greatest weaknesses. He

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<v Speaker 2>will never care somebody, And I just think that is

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<v Speaker 2>like the best thing you have, the most powerful, godlike

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<v Speaker 2>person on earth. But their ultimate weakness is they can't

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<v Speaker 2>do the thing that every villain will do. That to me.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also the symbolism of this announcement coming out on

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<v Speaker 1>Grant Morrison's birthday.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel absolutely not just that, because this is not the

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<v Speaker 3>only is the This is like the fans saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's probably inspired by Grant Morrison and Frank Quietly's All Star.

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<v Speaker 2>Superman, but later on we get an announcement where they

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<v Speaker 2>say this is directly based on Grant Morrison's spoiler alert,

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<v Speaker 2>which we're talking in a minute. But yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>this is really exciting. I I know it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be young Superman, but I really still one of my

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<v Speaker 2>greatest wishes is that in the else world's like Matt

0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:55.120
<v Speaker 2>Reeves world, I think you could have such a good

0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Channing Tatum Superman, who is the Superman to Robert Pattinson's Batman,

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<v Speaker 2>and you make that movie and it is as bright

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<v Speaker 2>and cheery and funny as that Batman movie is dark. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like Channing Tatum is He's coming up more

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<v Speaker 2>and more in my superhero casting because I just think

0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:14.480
<v Speaker 2>he's such a great comedic actor. And obviously I love

0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:18.520
<v Speaker 2>Magic Mic, but like, yeah, the Mic verse. I can't

0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:21.040
<v Speaker 2>wait for Magic MIC's Last Dance. Magic Mic XXL one

0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:22.760
<v Speaker 2>of my all time Ferreite movies. If you haven't seen it,

0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.800
<v Speaker 2>go watch it. It's like an unbelievable treatise on male friendship,

0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:29.199
<v Speaker 2>just absolutely wonderful. But yeah, Superman Legacy, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>a young Superman. And this begins what James says, like,

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<v Speaker 2>so Waller and Creach Commandos, I think those were in

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<v Speaker 2>production before, and James says they're kind of the soft launch,

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<v Speaker 2>But Superman Legacy is boom. You're in the new DCU now,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's gonna be in twenty twenty five, so you're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of getting a scope for where we're headed and

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<v Speaker 2>when we'll really be seeing that massive boom of DC projects,

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<v Speaker 2>which will be continued by Lanterns, which they're kind of

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<v Speaker 2>selling as this huge, massive TV event on HBO Max

0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:09.040
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna teams John Stewart and How Jordan, which is exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Single actic detectives, space cups on Earth. They're they're saying

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<v Speaker 1>that it's it's essentially kind of going to be like

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<v Speaker 1>a true detective relationships story about these two very different Lanterns.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Listen, I don't love I'm not a fan of

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<v Speaker 1>space cars yea the.

0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Exciting version of Green Lantern, But I do like true detective.

0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I love and I love the fact that how you

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<v Speaker 1>get Hal and John together, which is really and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Would love I want to see a world where they

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<v Speaker 2>even though I get it it's like Space Cops, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a great grittier I still think one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most interesting things about John Stewart is that

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<v Speaker 2>he was originally like an architect, which is the best

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<v Speaker 2>power you could ever like, the best life you could

0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:55.560
<v Speaker 2>ever have before being a green lantern. So I would

0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:57.800
<v Speaker 2>love to see some of that brought in. And they

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<v Speaker 2>I think that if you're wondering what the DCU is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be about, this is the show that you

0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:06.879
<v Speaker 2>need to watch, because they say this plays a really

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<v Speaker 2>big role in leading into the main story we're telling

0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:12.800
<v Speaker 2>across film and TV when the pair will discover like

0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:15.920
<v Speaker 2>a terrifying mystery that ties into the kind of larger story.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's very interesting. I wonder what it would be

0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:21.760
<v Speaker 2>because True Detective I think of, like the first season Cults.

0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:25.760
<v Speaker 2>I think of like this really intimate, gritty serial killer story.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm kind of wondering. I mean, look, I did

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<v Speaker 2>just have a terrible idea. I'm sure there's not what

0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:33.120
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be, but in my head, I'm like, when

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<v Speaker 2>you think about murder mystery, and you think about DC universe,

0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:40.560
<v Speaker 2>you think about identity crisis, and I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think maybe I don't necessarily know if that's what it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be, And if it was, I trust James Suicide Squad.

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<v Speaker 2>I still I will tell you, guys, if you're not

0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:52.520
<v Speaker 2>sure about this James Gun universe, go and watch that movie.

0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:56.800
<v Speaker 2>It is so subversive and cool and the performances that

0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:59.800
<v Speaker 2>he gets out of this unbelievable cast. There's a Tiger

0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Why two minute cameo that will break your heart, like

0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:06.480
<v Speaker 2>it's so good, and I would I would trust the

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<v Speaker 2>person who made Suicide Squad to oversee an identity crisis

0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:13.680
<v Speaker 2>that is not so as problematic as the original.

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<v Speaker 1>So for those for those who are not versed in

0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:21.200
<v Speaker 1>identity crisis, it's on the most basic level, it's about

0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:28.040
<v Speaker 1>a mind a memory wiping scheme that causes various characters,

0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:31.440
<v Speaker 1>villains and heroes to maybe not actually know who they

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<v Speaker 1>are and the things that did the various characters go

0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:38.760
<v Speaker 1>through to uncover you know what's at the bottom of

0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:39.359
<v Speaker 1>this Yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 2>It centers around like a what appears to be like

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<v Speaker 2>a murder mystery. And it's written by Brad Meltzer, who

0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:49.080
<v Speaker 2>is a murder mystery writer, and Rags Morales did the art.

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<v Speaker 2>When this book came out, I actually, like, really did

0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:53.560
<v Speaker 2>love it. I was very young, and I loved the

0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:58.199
<v Speaker 2>murder mysteries. It has some less than appealing treatment of

0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:02.200
<v Speaker 2>women and depictions of men health. But I do wonder

0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:09.800
<v Speaker 2>if some kind of multiversal or superheroic murder mystery that

0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:14.199
<v Speaker 2>changes the way superhero see themselves could potentially be at

0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:16.080
<v Speaker 2>the core of what they're doing. I think there's a

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<v Speaker 2>chance that we could see a version of that. And

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<v Speaker 2>then we talked about identity crisis, which seems wild if

0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:24.120
<v Speaker 2>you know it, but we're about to say the wildest

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<v Speaker 2>thing that got announced, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>The wildest, truly, the wildest kind of a storm of wildness,

0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:35.200
<v Speaker 1>could say. So they're bringing in they're bringing the DC

0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:42.160
<v Speaker 1>imprint wild Storm story and team the Authority into DC

0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:45.639
<v Speaker 1>continuity proper. Here's Saffarn on the Authority. They're kind of

0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:47.720
<v Speaker 1>like Jack Nicholson and a few good men. They know

0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:50.119
<v Speaker 1>what you want, They want you on that wall, or

0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:52.120
<v Speaker 1>at least they believe that. So the Authority was kind

0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:55.560
<v Speaker 1>of like a very a very very late nineties, early

0:22:55.680 --> 0:23:01.119
<v Speaker 1>two thousands take on superheroes, super violent superhero those who will.

0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:04.199
<v Speaker 1>It was kind of like a bid to bring a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of Justice League pastiche into the kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>into modern pop storytelling, much like you know Marvel's Ultimate

0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Universe and the Ultimates. It's very kind of kind of

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:21.280
<v Speaker 1>a similar kind of vein.

0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:23.320
<v Speaker 2>It's really good that you bring up the Ultimates. So

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<v Speaker 2>I would say the Authority, I'm gonna I'm gonna put

0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 2>it out there because this is the kind of stuff

0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 2>we talk about. It was so I love Jim Lee.

0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:33.879
<v Speaker 2>Jim Ley founded this imprint, Wild Storm, part of Image Comics,

0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:36.320
<v Speaker 2>one of the original six studios it had. It was

0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:38.320
<v Speaker 2>called Wildstorm. This is like the sweetest thing. I think

0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:40.080
<v Speaker 2>about it all the time because the two main books

0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:43.800
<v Speaker 2>were wild Cats and Stormwatch. Very cute, Jimly. I love

0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:50.400
<v Speaker 2>that storm Watch basically evolved into the Authority under the

0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:54.240
<v Speaker 2>authorship of Warren Ellis who recently, over the last few years,

0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:57.520
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people within the comics community came out

0:23:58.080 --> 0:23:59.800
<v Speaker 2>on a website called so Many of Us that you

0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:04.359
<v Speaker 2>could read and talked about how they had experienced I

0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:07.840
<v Speaker 2>will say alleged for legal reasons, like alleged abusive and

0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:10.399
<v Speaker 2>manipulative relationships with Ellis.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's really.

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<v Speaker 2>Important because to bring up just because the Authority put

0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:15.680
<v Speaker 2>him on the map, and this was really the book

0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:18.600
<v Speaker 2>that gave him the celebrity status that would later lead

0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 2>to those conversations. But what I will say is you

0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:26.720
<v Speaker 2>bore the Ultimate Universe. This book was created by Warren

0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Ellis and Brian Hitch. The second volume was made by

0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Mark Miller, and this gritty, grounded, violent take was then

0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 2>taken by Miller and Brian Hitch and they created the

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 2>Automate Universe, and the Automate Universe went on to create

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 2>and inspire the MCU as we know it. So the

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:51.199
<v Speaker 2>Authority has like a massive, massive impact and legacy, but

0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:56.680
<v Speaker 2>it is so it's not as grotesque as the Boys,

0:24:56.920 --> 0:25:00.680
<v Speaker 2>but it's definitely in that Ven diagram of edge violent.

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<v Speaker 2>These superheroes will kill you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that was the mission statement was push the

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<v Speaker 1>envelope on what superheroes are. Yeah, and I'll say this,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they're the bad guys.

0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:18.880
<v Speaker 2>I think so, I think they're the bad guys.

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that they're going to be the bad guys.

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 1>And I think this is I think the Authority and

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 1>the way the Authority go about their business. Who knows

0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 1>where they come from, maybe they come from another dimension,

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:31.720
<v Speaker 1>they show up here and then they're just like, oh, great, perfect,

0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 1>this world needs superheroes. And I think that this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the reason that the JLA and our

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:40.440
<v Speaker 1>heroes come together in a team to fight them.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. I think that's a brilliant idea because

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<v Speaker 2>also the original there's multiple different versions of the Authority

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:52.159
<v Speaker 2>throughout history, So like you probably wouldn't know most of

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 2>the characters because who is Jenny Sparks. Nobody knows that's

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 2>one of the original leaders. But I will tell you

0:25:57.320 --> 0:26:00.800
<v Speaker 2>two characters that you will know who if they come

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<v Speaker 2>into this show, which I believe they will, will probably

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:07.680
<v Speaker 2>be the breakoff team who become the roguish anti heroic

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 2>heroes rather than being part of the villains, which is

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Midnight to Ann Apollo, who are two of comics first

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:17.080
<v Speaker 2>gay characters. They're married, they're in love. They actually end

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:19.359
<v Speaker 2>up adopting a younger version of the Leader of the

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:24.919
<v Speaker 2>Authority later on, and they have become huge, huge cult

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:28.520
<v Speaker 2>fans in the DC universe. With you know, Steve Orlando

0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:30.840
<v Speaker 2>did like a Midnight series, and there was a Midnight

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:33.920
<v Speaker 2>in Apollo spinoff, and I think that we could see

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:36.640
<v Speaker 2>those characters kind of break off. But I think you're

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:39.879
<v Speaker 2>right the way they describe these characters. James Gunn is

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 2>a huge Wildstorm fan. He said he loves wild Story

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:45.480
<v Speaker 2>and he wants to bring all of the characters into

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:48.360
<v Speaker 2>the DCU so we could see, like you know, Wildcats,

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 2>we could see I think people like Griff.

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 1>And stuff, Wildcats are the dec I believe it.

0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm already hearing I'm already hearing rumblings about Jim Lee's

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:01.879
<v Speaker 2>involvement and stuff, which would make me really excited. So

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:05.240
<v Speaker 2>I think this is really interesting. But the way they're

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:08.439
<v Speaker 2>talking about it, they're saying they think they're the good guys.

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 2>They believe what they're doing is right. That is very

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:14.120
<v Speaker 2>different from the other kinds of stories that gun likes.

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Tell a story like Suicide Squad, who are the bad

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:18.120
<v Speaker 2>guys who think they're the bad guys, but then actually

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:21.359
<v Speaker 2>they do something good. I love this idea of a

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:23.679
<v Speaker 2>team who truly believes, and that is the point of

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 2>the authority. They believe they are a higher authority. They

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 2>believe that they should be outside the realm of the government.

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:37.199
<v Speaker 1>Superman in the in the like German philosophic exactly, you

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 1>even know that.

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 2>And they were created some of them like Midnight ran Apollo.

0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:43.120
<v Speaker 2>They were essentially created by like an evil scientist. Then

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 2>you have you know, Jenny Sparks is essentially like somebody

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 2>who lives for a century, who represents the spirit of

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:54.440
<v Speaker 2>the twenty first century and the twentieth century. I will

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 2>say that sounds like a Grant Morrison I did to me.

0:27:56.760 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 2>I feel like this was very inspired by the Morrisons look,

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 2>but comes with like a less hopeful vibe. But yeah,

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Mark Miller worked on it, Dustin Wehm worked on it.

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Frank quietly worked on it. Grant Morrison wrote two issues

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 2>of the third volume, which were illustrated by Gen Harh,

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:15.200
<v Speaker 2>then disappeared around the time him and Mark Miller fell out.

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 2>So this is like the absolute roster of famous creators

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:24.160
<v Speaker 2>who got their start or were involved on this book.

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Ed Brubaker wrote some of this like this, This was

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 2>a kind of hub for comic book create a talent

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 2>that would establish a lot of people.

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Late nineties early two thousands were a great time in

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 1>comics creatively, because the entire industry's back was against the exactly.

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 2>That's when you got some of the wildest Marvel stuff.

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Jok Asada comes in at Marvel. Yeah, you got frankincastle

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Let's punisher, who's a Frankenstein like Sure. I love that idea.

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 2>It was such a creative time, and I think it

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 2>makes a lot of sense for Gunn. I was rereading

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of these comics. A lot of the stuff,

0:28:56.960 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 2>even for nineteen ninety nine was age. But you know

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 2>what we've seen in both Marvel and Y, We've seen

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:11.640
<v Speaker 2>great reconsiderations and reimaginings, So I think this could be

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 2>one of them. And I think in a post boys world,

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 2>this is an incredibly smart choice. What I would love

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 2>to see when Avid Deverney adapted DMZ, which was written

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 2>by Brian Wood, who was a creator who had also

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 2>had alleged abuse and manipulation kind of wheel like accusations,

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Ava went out of her way to hire one of

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 2>the women who had first broken the silence on Brian

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Wood as a writer. I would love to see the

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 2>authority become a space for that too, where some of

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 2>these women who had had relationships with Warren Ellis are

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 2>allowed to be part of deciding how this story is

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 2>going to be told. If it's part of it, I

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 2>always I thought that was really cool that Avid did that,

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 2>and I'd be very interesting to see something similar.

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Happen next Paradise Lost. This is going to be a

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Game of Thrones political st I'll take on Semyscira to

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 1>me in the Amazon's birthplace of wonder Woman kind of.

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 1>It seems like a wonder Woman kind of origin story.

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 2>I think what they're saying is it's going to be

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 2>a generation before Diana, so I think we can assume

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 2>that Diana will be a baby, probably because a generation

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 2>before the Amazons could be thousands of years. And the

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:22.719
<v Speaker 2>coolest thing about this that I think has a lot

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 2>of potential to go both great or terrible, but I'm

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 2>going for great. I'm staying optimistic because I want to

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 2>see I want to see a Game of Thrones Greek mythology,

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 2>political intrigue show. The idea is this is going to

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 2>show why there are no men on Themyscerra. This is

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:42.920
<v Speaker 2>why I would assume that we'll get something around aries

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 2>trying to conquer them. I hope they go for more

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 2>of that kind of a war theme than the Brian

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Azarello style kind of like kind of leaning more into

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 2>like the creepy rape kind of aspect of why men

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be invited. But I would be very interested. I

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 2>think this could be so and I love the idea

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.240
<v Speaker 2>that this is going to be a prestige HBO Max show.

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Guess what, guys, we know HBO can make great Game

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 2>of Thrones style programming because they made Game of Thrones.

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 2>So yes, we want to see this. I think this

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 2>is really cool. Imagine casting, the kind of casting we're

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 2>going to get for all these brilliant Amazons, and the

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.479
<v Speaker 2>kind of way we could see them portrayed on screen

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 2>and get this time to spend there. So much of

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 2>the conversation around those Wonder Woman movies, especially Wonder Woman Too,

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 2>was like I want to stay on Themiscira, like those

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:32.840
<v Speaker 2>first twenty minutes on Themiscira, Let's make that the whole thing.

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 2>So I think this is really cool that they're gonna

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna do that.

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Up next, a real weirdo deep poll from James Gunn

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Booster Gold Live action series Booster Gold is this is

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 1>a very James Gunn template. The thing that you laid out,

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 1>which is the losers and bad guys who kind of

0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 1>get pulled into being heroes. Booster Gold is like a

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 1>loser from the future who travels back in time with

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 1>advanced technology to become a hero.

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think this is really cool. This is

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna be I think a Peacemaker style unexpected hit because

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 2>in the comics, as James says this in the video,

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:21.959
<v Speaker 2>this is a cult fan favorite character. Everyone has been

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 2>saying why not Booster Gold, Why not Booster Gold? And

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 2>one of the most popular successful parts of Booster Gold

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 2>in the comics is his relationship with Blue Beetle. So

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 2>I think that we will see that will probably be

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 2>that crossover between the Blue Beetle movie, which they were

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 2>so happy with and believed in so much that they

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:42.239
<v Speaker 2>moved it from HBO Max the theatrical. I think that

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 2>is where we will see Blue Beetle come in and crossover.

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 2>So the interesting thing to wonder is are they going

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 2>to do a young Booster Gold so that they are contemporaries.

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 2>If so, it could be called a castle like the

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 2>kid who played Hawk in Cobra Kai, So you get

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 2>that kind of reuniting or I'm going back to it.

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Channing Tait. He'd be a brilliant boost of gold, and

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 2>you could have this kind of olda mental younger blue

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 2>beetle kind of relationship of the real hero of us

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 2>as this kind of faux hero but who always ends

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 2>up getting pulled into these kind of heroic schemes. I

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 2>think this is going to be a really really big deal.

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Next up, another another possible entry into we were right.

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 1>We were talking in the studio and.

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is an online so pre probably.

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>About how much about how we thought the bat family

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 1>had to be involved in this iteration of the DCU,

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>and that we were hoping to see Damien son of

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Wayne, and the Brave and the Bold will do that.

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 1>The Brave and the Bold will introduce Batman and Robin

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 1>in this kind of like father Son's story. It's we're

0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 1>going to Bruce is going to discover that he has

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 1>a child, and then he's going to discover that his child,

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 1>who will at one point become Robin loves.

0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 2>To merger, take care out assassin with like Jim describe

0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 2>him a little son of a bitch. That's a good

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 2>description of Damian Wayne. He is a little son of

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 2>a bitch, and they very excitingly said, this is based

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:14.680
<v Speaker 2>on Grant Morrison's Batman and Robin comics, which, obviously, for

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>obvious reasons, they couldn't name it Batman and Robin because

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:22.279
<v Speaker 2>of the incredible Joe Schumacher movie Batman and Robin, which

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:24.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, everyone knows I'm a huge fan of. But

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 2>the Brave in the Bold is a very exciting title

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 2>for it, because not only are we going to get

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Damian Wayne, and James said, this is the beginning of

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 2>the bat Family, which is very exciting, very exciting, but

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 2>not only are we going to get Damian Wayne, who

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I think is such a beloved Robin and people are

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:42.440
<v Speaker 2>really excited to see him brought to life, but the

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 2>fact that they're calling it the Brave in the Bold

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:46.280
<v Speaker 2>makes me think there's going to be team up elements,

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 2>that we're going to see some of those weirder characters

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 2>brave in the balls where you'd see like a music

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 2>meister or like some really weird out there villains, especially

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 2>if you've watched the cartoon, which is so great and

0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 2>in the comics too, So I think this is a

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 2>very exciting possibility. And also again Grant Morrison's birthday, thanks

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 2>for the Grant Morrison love on Grant Morrison's birthday. I'm

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 2>a huge fan of this choice. I want to know,

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 2>how do you introduce Damien and build a bat family

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:19.360
<v Speaker 2>from Damien. I love Gotham Academy, so I'd love to

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 2>see maps like that's one of my favorite characters, and

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:25.360
<v Speaker 2>you do the younger bat family. But I think everyone

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 2>knows the interesting thing here is getting to meet the

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 2>other previous Robins at some point, and how you build

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 2>that in from the ground up of Damien. I think

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 2>that's a really interesting storytelling choice. We've seen Dick's story

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 2>many many times, We've seen the original Robin. We've even

0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 2>gotten to see Tim Drake now, you know, in the

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:48.319
<v Speaker 2>TV stuff. So I think this is a great choice.

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 2>And I can't I want to see that little sassy

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:52.759
<v Speaker 2>kid that they cast. This could be like a hit

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 2>girl from kick Ass Chloe Morets.

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:57.799
<v Speaker 1>Never has to be.

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you need a ten year old who's gonna swear

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:03.560
<v Speaker 2>like a sailor, who's gonna chop people's heads off with

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 2>a Samurai sword and he's just gonna cause Batman. Damian

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 2>is basically Batman's karma for all the children that he

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 2>pulled into his rule.

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, is as he becomes a teenager

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 1>and an older and a younger, a young man, a

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:23.400
<v Speaker 1>true young man continues to cause can problems for Bruce

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Wayne all throughout the years. Then next up this was

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of a surprise.

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 2>I think this is the most Tomorrow.

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is This is a story that came out

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 1>like last year.

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 2>Literally just Tom King.

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:43.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Tom King and everyone's favorite former CIA agent who

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 1>is a comic book creator, and bil Quis Evely's.

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Bilquises Are I just I cannot tell you read this book.

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:51.359
<v Speaker 1>It's great.

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:55.279
<v Speaker 2>This bil Quis Everly's are is unbelievable, like many other

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 2>things that Tom kick.

0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:59.399
<v Speaker 1>Sci Fi Supergirl, it is what this is.

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:02.279
<v Speaker 2>Tom King pitch DC and he said, what if we

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 2>did true Grit but with Supergirl? And Supergirl is not

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:08.640
<v Speaker 2>the girl asking for help because her family's been killed

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:11.479
<v Speaker 2>though we know her family died on Krypton. In fact,

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Supergirl is the grizzled, older, drunk who this young girl

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:20.320
<v Speaker 2>is gonna ask to take on a quest for revenge.

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:24.960
<v Speaker 2>And it is basically narratively true Grit. But Matt Lopez

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 2>the colorist, and Bill Chris Everly create this swirling cosmos.

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:35.520
<v Speaker 2>This absolutely wild space Western, and that to me is

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 2>what I think appeals to gun It's Guardians of the

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Galaxy but are rated. It's two women in a Western.

0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 2>It's the Last of Us and the Mandalorian. It's these

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 2>lone wolf and cub stories, but here we have the

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.640
<v Speaker 2>centered around two women. And I cannot tell you like

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:55.439
<v Speaker 2>there are in this book. You will not believe it.

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 2>It begins in a high fantasy planet, so everyone speaks

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 2>like they're in lad of Rings. There's all these kind

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 2>of wild monsters and aliens, and Bilkis and Matt bring

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 2>this visual language to it that is just unlike any

0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 2>other comic. I I tire of the dark twists that

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:17.279
<v Speaker 2>Tom King often brings, but I think that Everly and

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Lopez's art makes this something that made me really excited

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 2>when this was on there. It's it's a very interesting take.

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:28.600
<v Speaker 2>But I will say this is my one thing. I

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:30.839
<v Speaker 2>wrote a piece about this vi GM. I'll say it here.

0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:32.840
<v Speaker 2>It's not a spoiler because if you don't know what

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about, you won't know. But I'm saying, let

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.760
<v Speaker 2>the super Pets live, James Gunn, that's my one change.

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:41.239
<v Speaker 2>That's one change. That's all I want. Bilkis are and

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 2>let the super Pets live.

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 1>And then finally, this project I thought was by wrote

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:52.799
<v Speaker 1>by our own Rosie, who demanded who demanded that it'd

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:57.080
<v Speaker 1>be included in the first announcement of the DC Slate folks,

0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:58.080
<v Speaker 1>swamp Thing is here.

0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:01.719
<v Speaker 2>I actually was the outside the Warner Brothers offices every

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:05.359
<v Speaker 2>day with a sign I swam. I have to say

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 2>thank you. This is no joke, like thank you to

0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 2>everyone who messaged me to say congratulations. This was so

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:14.919
<v Speaker 2>funny that I actually had to do a post about

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 2>it because so many of my friends and so many

0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:18.680
<v Speaker 2>people who listen to the show, and so many people

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:20.360
<v Speaker 2>who read my work texted me and they were like

0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 2>and they DM me and they were like, congratulations, you

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 2>did it, Like swamp Thing is happening. I did a

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:27.400
<v Speaker 2>poster or I was like, thank you for your congratulations.

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:29.400
<v Speaker 2>And my sister texted me and was like, did I

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 2>miss something? And I was like, don't worry. It's just

0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:33.320
<v Speaker 2>a swamping movie. I'm not writing it, but I feel

0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:36.280
<v Speaker 2>I feel so close to this movie. I'm very excited.

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 2>If it was up to me, I would say bring

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:40.400
<v Speaker 2>back James One. I love that Swamp Thing show. I

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 2>know that's not going to happen. I am hearing. I

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 2>think James Mangol did a tweet with Swamp Thing, and

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:47.880
<v Speaker 2>I think people are thinking that's the way it's going

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 2>to go. James James says it's going to be a

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 2>very dark horror film about the origins of Swamp Thing.

0:39:54.719 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 2>If you don't know those origins, love it you will,

0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:04.760
<v Speaker 2>you will understand it's really really brilliant, strange, esoteric stuff.

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:08.400
<v Speaker 2>You can start with the original Lemoine stuff, or you

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:11.759
<v Speaker 2>can skip straight to Sagara swamp Thing, which is Alan Moore.

0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 2>There's also a great Current Swamp.

0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Iconic the Iconic Ale and that's the stuff you saw.

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 2>My post that where a lot of the images came

0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 2>from Right of Spring and stuff like that. There's also

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:24.840
<v Speaker 2>a great Current Swamp Thing run by Ramby. So I

0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 2>would say, I hope that the horror aspect is there,

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 2>but I hope it is sprinkled with some of the

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:32.799
<v Speaker 2>gothic romance that I believe is the best thing.

0:40:33.040 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 1>That's the heart, that's the emotion, the emotional heart of

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:38.759
<v Speaker 1>swamp because like, yeah, monster in the fucking Swamp, we've

0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 1>seen it, but he's there's a human emotional Yeah. The

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:47.520
<v Speaker 1>heart of Swamp Thing is this longing of the Swamp

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Things for the love that he used to have and

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 1>that he can know.

0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Humanity. Yeah, because there's this very brilliant twist on Swamp

0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Thing that you won't see coming when you read the books. Also,

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:01.919
<v Speaker 2>I will say I've said it before, I'll say it again.

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Go and watch the Swamp and Thing TV show that

0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 2>was originally on DC Universe. I believe it is more

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 2>than likely on HBO Max now. It is just absolute dynamite.

0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:15.839
<v Speaker 2>Crystal Read from teen Wolf plays Abby and she is

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:19.520
<v Speaker 2>so brilliant and the practical effects are unbelievable and it

0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 2>is just the most wonderful, lovely, romantic, weird, gothic horror show.

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 2>And I know he only got one season, but I

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:28.719
<v Speaker 2>will always hold it close to my heart. So watch

0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 2>that to prepare. But yes, I also really like the

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:33.920
<v Speaker 2>way James Gunn was like, this is extremely different in

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:36.360
<v Speaker 2>tone from anything else on this slate, but I just

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 2>had to get it in Mabby and I was like

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:40.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm ready. Yeah, I was like please, I'm ready.

0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, a very exciting announcement. I have to say, you

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:47.960
<v Speaker 1>can't be anything but excited about what James is attempting

0:41:47.960 --> 0:41:50.640
<v Speaker 1>to do exactly, and I think that it's what has

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 1>been necessary for a long time. And if they can

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:58.800
<v Speaker 1>pull this off, I think the comics the storytelling space

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 1>is going to be all the best or for it totally.

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 1>It be really fun if he can do it.

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:04.080
<v Speaker 2>I just think it shows the thing we've been saying

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:07.120
<v Speaker 2>that's most exciting about James and pet being in charge

0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:09.400
<v Speaker 2>of this. These are people who love comics, they get

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 2>they love. This is a lineup of someone who has

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:14.880
<v Speaker 2>favorite comics that they wanted to adapt to, which we

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:16.440
<v Speaker 2>rarely see. So I can't wait.

0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Up next to the mailbag, we're stepping out of the

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:37.440
<v Speaker 1>airlock and into the X ray vision crypt a KA

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:42.640
<v Speaker 1>the mail bag. To answer your questions, here's one from Mike.

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Mike asks, the MMCU is very global. Currently. You have

0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:51.239
<v Speaker 1>a shang Chi running around in China. You have Leila

0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 1>in Egypt. You have Cameron and Red Dagger in Pakistan.

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:56.160
<v Speaker 1>You have Blade and the Eternals in London and Moonnight

0:42:56.600 --> 0:43:00.640
<v Speaker 1>all over Europe. What are some other global heroes you'd

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:03.279
<v Speaker 1>like to see in the MCU. I have one that

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:06.960
<v Speaker 1>he instantly leaves to mind, but you tell me Rosie who.

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, this is like my dream question because basically

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:13.480
<v Speaker 2>getting onto one of when you talk about global characters

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 2>in MCU, getting onto one of mine and Jason's favorite topics,

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:21.560
<v Speaker 2>aka the X Men. So Colossus, you know, I think

0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 2>that's someone I'd really love to see in the MCU,

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 2>one of our X Men faves, you know, the Russian

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:34.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of legend, the huge hunky boy. I love Colossus.

0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean I would love to see Karma. So you're

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:40.200
<v Speaker 2>talking about like a Vietnamese character, that would be so wonderful.

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:44.080
<v Speaker 2>I love Chamber. That's one of my favorite characters. And

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 2>he's from London. I think John Boyeger is my dream

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Chamber casting because I think, like the only thing you

0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 2>need about Chamber is that they're from that He's from London,

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 2>so you know, that would be a cool gen X character.

0:43:56.160 --> 0:43:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Basically all of mine are just X Men characters. He's

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:02.400
<v Speaker 2>from Canada. That's global, It's on the globe, you know.

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:04.360
<v Speaker 2>I think there's a I think there's a big space

0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:08.759
<v Speaker 2>for like for like a reconsideration and like a recontextualization

0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:13.280
<v Speaker 2>of like Sunfire to introduce like a Japanese hero. Yeah,

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 2>I would love to see like Money and Penance come in.

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:18.120
<v Speaker 2>That would be really cool to have like African characters,

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:21.160
<v Speaker 2>and also to have more again, more weird X Men characters.

0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:25.440
<v Speaker 2>And I do think that I think that's sun Spot,

0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 2>like a real version of sun Spot where you do

0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:32.520
<v Speaker 2>the Brazilian character whose father is like a wealthy businessman.

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 2>It opens up all these really interesting spaces into like

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 2>corporate espionage, the Hellfire Club. But also he has one

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:43.200
<v Speaker 2>of the most interesting origin stories, which is essentially like

0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 2>he is a black character who is targeted by racist

0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:53.239
<v Speaker 2>bullies and that is when his powers ignite, you know,

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:55.920
<v Speaker 2>and his powers are so interesting visually. So yeah, global

0:44:56.000 --> 0:45:00.000
<v Speaker 2>characters aka the X Men introduce them, how about you.

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:02.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, all of that is great. I could not

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I could not avoid thinking about the late eighties nineties

0:45:08.440 --> 0:45:10.799
<v Speaker 1>era X Men when they were hanging out in Australia

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:15.879
<v Speaker 1>with Yes, with the Teleporter Gateway. That's another gree Wow.

0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I would just love that. But I'll tell you one

0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 1>that I think we're gonna I think we're gonna get

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 1>this is Captain Britain and Excalibur. I think we're going

0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:26.600
<v Speaker 1>to get it at some point.

0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that makes so much sense. I mean with Blade, Yeah,

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 2>with with with you know Kit Harrington, that Black Knight

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 2>is going to become a character in the MCU, That's

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:39.839
<v Speaker 2>going to be a thing. So I think that makes

0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:41.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot of sense because you get Captain Britain, you

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:43.239
<v Speaker 2>get excalib but you can do some of that with

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 2>supernatural stuff. Okay, So in the comics at the moment,

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, they have this kind of like Betsy Braddock

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Captain Britain. Do you think we could see a version

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:53.600
<v Speaker 2>like that? Do you think it's like a more traditional

0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:54.160
<v Speaker 2>I think it is.

0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that's seeding and of course we can't forget.

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Also in Eastern Europe, our friend Bova in Mount Wonder Gore.

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 2>My Darling, my queen. I'm actually gonna you had it

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:09.279
<v Speaker 2>hip fast. He's a cool exclusive. I'm going to get

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Bova tattoo. Yeah yeah, yeah, so I'll make sure to

0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:17.600
<v Speaker 2>reveal it first. To the listeners of X ray.

0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:21.759
<v Speaker 1>Vision, Blakeney asks what Marvel DC project are you most

0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:23.759
<v Speaker 1>excited for? I which are you most worried about, whether

0:46:23.800 --> 0:46:29.240
<v Speaker 1>that's casting, story, or other factors. Mouth start, I'm I'm

0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 1>really excited for the James Gunn era of DC. I

0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:38.120
<v Speaker 1>think he's done some really wise things early on to

0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:43.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of cut the cord to, you know, the kind

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:46.719
<v Speaker 1>of the more toxic side of the Snyder.

0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:50.480
<v Speaker 2>He's talked about the divisive nature of the fandom and

0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:53.839
<v Speaker 2>how he can't please everyone. I'm excited to see it.

0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:58.600
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's a person who has proven that

0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 1>they have a track record and at point of view

0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 1>that works in this space, and I'm really excited to

0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:04.480
<v Speaker 1>see what he's going to do.

0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:08.480
<v Speaker 2>I totally agree. I love that this is somebody who

0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:11.720
<v Speaker 2>loves comics. It's also someone who had great and public

0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:15.160
<v Speaker 2>personal growth. I think the Suicide Squad movie that he

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:17.400
<v Speaker 2>made is an underrated gem that is just going to

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 2>age like a fine wine and is one of the

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:22.840
<v Speaker 2>most radical superhero movies we've ever seen. I love that

0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:25.879
<v Speaker 2>he came in really hard supporting the Blue Beetle movie,

0:47:25.880 --> 0:47:29.879
<v Speaker 2>which I'm very excited about. Let's keep it DC, because

0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:31.920
<v Speaker 2>we talk about Marvel lot most worried about. I think

0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 2>I can probably speak for both of us here, but.

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:36.840
<v Speaker 1>It's the Flash that's what I'm most worried about.

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:38.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't mean I want.

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 1>To tell the ways we're worried about you.

0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:43.839
<v Speaker 2>It's like I'm worried about it. In general, I'm interested

0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:46.759
<v Speaker 2>in what James is going to how they're going to

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:48.719
<v Speaker 2>handle that. I think Peter Saffran has made some of

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:51.040
<v Speaker 2>the best and had a hand in making some of

0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:53.919
<v Speaker 2>the best Warner Brothers movies. I love, as everyone knows,

0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:57.239
<v Speaker 2>I love Aquaman, the most profitable DC movie of all time,

0:47:57.280 --> 0:48:02.640
<v Speaker 2>by the way. So I'm very excited. I'm excited to

0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:05.800
<v Speaker 2>see how they handlell this very tough challenge of the Flash.

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Even though I'm worried about the Flash, I think it

0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:10.520
<v Speaker 2>will be an interesting watermark to see how they're going

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:16.640
<v Speaker 2>to approach it. And I'm hoping because as the reporting

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:19.319
<v Speaker 2>has been out there is that Ben Affleck is no

0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:21.360
<v Speaker 2>longer going to be in it as Batman, which was

0:48:21.440 --> 0:48:24.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of reported he came in because they people didn't

0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:26.600
<v Speaker 2>understand why Michael Keaton was there. I'm assuming if you're

0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:28.239
<v Speaker 2>James Gun, You're probably going to be like, put Michael

0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:30.560
<v Speaker 2>Keaton back in there. It's Batman, And now that Ben

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:33.239
<v Speaker 2>Affleck is out, he's going to be involved in maybe

0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:35.560
<v Speaker 2>directing a movie or something. I just think there's a

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:39.400
<v Speaker 2>lot of interesting options. But I'm really interested because I

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:42.279
<v Speaker 2>don't want to see Ezra as a flash. Everyone knows that,

0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:45.360
<v Speaker 2>but I do I want to. I'm most worried about

0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:48.880
<v Speaker 2>this inclusive, young version of the Justice League that that

0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:51.960
<v Speaker 2>that had supposedly been setting up with this, you know,

0:48:52.040 --> 0:48:54.160
<v Speaker 2>new Supergirl. I really want to see where that goes,

0:48:54.160 --> 0:48:56.279
<v Speaker 2>and I hope something positive can come out of it.

0:48:56.360 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 2>But I still don't even believe the movie's coming out

0:48:58.200 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 2>this year.

0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:02.080
<v Speaker 1>That's the rail track. I can't. I don't believe it either.

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Andrew asks, in the spirit of the Last of Us

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:07.399
<v Speaker 1>and other Lone Wolf and Cub style stories, what ex

0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:10.719
<v Speaker 1>team member would you most trust and least trust to

0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:15.399
<v Speaker 1>babysit your child, niece, nephew, pets or loved one. Well,

0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:20.719
<v Speaker 1>this is easy for me. I think I would. First

0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:22.719
<v Speaker 1>of all, it's Wolverine because he's done it so many times.

0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:29.359
<v Speaker 2>Obviously, he is the kid. He's taking the kid.

0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:32.680
<v Speaker 1>You can't count how many times he has done this

0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:36.760
<v Speaker 1>with you know. Power Pack is probably my favorite version

0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 1>of this. Remember that one when he's like when he's

0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:42.760
<v Speaker 1>on the run from the Reavers and Lady Death Strike

0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:45.800
<v Speaker 1>and he's like been reduced to his like feral state

0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:48.560
<v Speaker 1>because of like how injured he is, and then they

0:49:48.560 --> 0:49:51.480
<v Speaker 1>come across power Pack, and then he helps them, even

0:49:51.520 --> 0:49:54.120
<v Speaker 1>though because he's just you know, like good to the core,

0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 1>even though he is a hardened killer. I think it

0:49:57.640 --> 0:50:01.080
<v Speaker 1>would have to be Wolverine least, trust I don't know.

0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Does mister Sinister count as an X Men right now?

0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:04.960
<v Speaker 2>I think you can do it. I think you can

0:50:05.040 --> 0:50:05.359
<v Speaker 2>do it.

0:50:05.920 --> 0:50:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean like like like Mutant Nation is really united,

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:12.080
<v Speaker 1>and he has been an important.

0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:14.200
<v Speaker 2>He would probably do an experiment on your child.

0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:19.600
<v Speaker 1>He say what you listen, We've seen he said he would,

0:50:20.080 --> 0:50:23.200
<v Speaker 1>and listen, mister Sinister is on side. He's been an

0:50:23.200 --> 0:50:26.800
<v Speaker 1>important part of the Krakoa era x Men obviously, in

0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:34.080
<v Speaker 1>without him, there would be no resurrection process, you know.

0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:37.880
<v Speaker 1>So I guess I could count him as an x

0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Men and thus as an x Men. Mister Sinister, no

0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:44.880
<v Speaker 1>way keeping my pet loved one whoever?

0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:47.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, so I'm I agree Wolverine was my pick.

0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:50.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go controversial, but I believe it is. I

0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:53.320
<v Speaker 2>do believe it's fat. You know, I never leave my

0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:58.239
<v Speaker 2>kid with e ever, do not put my child in

0:50:58.280 --> 0:51:02.760
<v Speaker 2>your baby army. Do not do not send my child

0:51:03.000 --> 0:51:06.080
<v Speaker 2>to your private school, which I probably pay thousands of

0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:08.400
<v Speaker 2>dollars for. And then you're gonna put them in the

0:51:08.400 --> 0:51:11.400
<v Speaker 2>war room. No, thank you. You're not looking after my child.

0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:15.160
<v Speaker 2>The child's gonna end up in a war. This is

0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:17.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna be bad. Maybe I'll maybe, maybe I'll let my

0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:20.040
<v Speaker 2>child come and play baseball.

0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:23.480
<v Speaker 1>But this is without even like getting into all the

0:51:23.600 --> 0:51:28.719
<v Speaker 1>times after saying, hey, telepaths, you should, by the way,

0:51:28.760 --> 0:51:30.680
<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't just go into people's minds, don't do that.

0:51:30.719 --> 0:51:34.239
<v Speaker 1>He's every one while he's done it to everybody. Also,

0:51:34.360 --> 0:51:37.640
<v Speaker 1>he's read everybody's minds. He's put mental blocks in everybody's minds.

0:51:37.680 --> 0:51:43.040
<v Speaker 1>He's invasive fucking memory a million. Yeah, he just as well.

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:46.279
<v Speaker 2>Look, nobody wants to remember this even and this is

0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:49.080
<v Speaker 2>because understandable. It was a bad choice. Stanley. This was

0:51:49.080 --> 0:51:52.719
<v Speaker 2>a bad choice. But let's not forget that early in

0:51:52.800 --> 0:51:55.640
<v Speaker 2>the X Men's original tenure, before the giant size X

0:51:55.640 --> 0:51:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Men which reimagine them and we all love, Charley Xavier

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:05.600
<v Speaker 2>was creepy on Jane Gray. This is child bet.

0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:08.640
<v Speaker 1>This is one of those things. This is one of

0:52:08.680 --> 0:52:12.520
<v Speaker 1>those moments. It's like X Men number six legitimately where

0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:13.839
<v Speaker 1>it's like.

0:52:13.800 --> 0:52:15.600
<v Speaker 2>I know you was like, don't do this that.

0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:21.319
<v Speaker 1>This is one of those things that I think we've

0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:24.560
<v Speaker 1>all just agreed to pretend that that never happened.

0:52:25.120 --> 0:52:27.400
<v Speaker 2>He's like, how could I ever tell her that I

0:52:27.440 --> 0:52:28.080
<v Speaker 2>am in love?

0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Why did this happened? Oh? God, I think that's going

0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:38.440
<v Speaker 1>by the way. Uh. While we're on Charles Xavier, do

0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:41.000
<v Speaker 1>you see I think it's Immortal x Men one of

0:52:41.040 --> 0:52:43.640
<v Speaker 1>the recent Immortal x men's where there's a really cool

0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:49.600
<v Speaker 1>uh uh exchange where Charles is like wondering what would

0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:53.520
<v Speaker 1>have happened had if him and Magnus had like switched

0:52:53.560 --> 0:52:56.480
<v Speaker 1>power sets, like if he was Magneto and Magneto is

0:52:56.560 --> 0:52:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Charles Xavier. And he was like, well, i'll tell you what.

0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:02.120
<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent what's happened is all humans would be

0:53:02.160 --> 0:53:06.160
<v Speaker 1>dead because and then he goes into like how he

0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Charles Xavier could have easily killed on humans. He's like,

0:53:10.320 --> 0:53:13.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, my power allows me to locate mutants, therefore

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I can also locate humans, And it would have just

0:53:16.680 --> 0:53:20.759
<v Speaker 1>been an easy work of about a decade of planting,

0:53:21.200 --> 0:53:27.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, subliminal messages in people's minds causing them to

0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:29.360
<v Speaker 1>not eat, kill themselves, whatever, And it would take about

0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:31.280
<v Speaker 1>ten years and I could kill every single human on Earth.

0:53:31.680 --> 0:53:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm really excited, Like they're doing so much good stuff.

0:53:34.800 --> 0:53:36.799
<v Speaker 2>So speaking of I'm glad you brought this up, because

0:53:36.800 --> 0:53:38.680
<v Speaker 2>when you started talking about Mister Sinister, I was thinking

0:53:38.760 --> 0:53:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Marvel's doing this event called Sins of Sinister and Kiaran

0:53:42.040 --> 0:53:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Gillan and Paco Medina they're doing a book called Immoral

0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:47.759
<v Speaker 2>x Men. Yeah, instead of Immortal x Men, and it's

0:53:47.800 --> 0:53:50.319
<v Speaker 2>like ten years in the future and the X Men

0:53:50.360 --> 0:53:54.440
<v Speaker 2>are loved and adored instead of you know, hated and feared.

0:53:54.800 --> 0:53:58.000
<v Speaker 2>So I'm really excited to see where that goes. It's

0:53:58.000 --> 0:53:59.480
<v Speaker 2>a great time to be an X Men fan.

0:53:59.600 --> 0:54:01.920
<v Speaker 1>It really is. I would argue there's almost been no

0:54:02.000 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 1>better time, not in.

0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Our age that we can really appreciate it. Like I

0:54:05.160 --> 0:54:08.319
<v Speaker 2>wish if I'd have been this age when you know,

0:54:08.440 --> 0:54:10.600
<v Speaker 2>New X Men was coming out, I probably would have

0:54:10.600 --> 0:54:11.200
<v Speaker 2>felt the same way.

0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:13.759
<v Speaker 1>But I was like twelve, They're at the peak of

0:54:13.880 --> 0:54:17.759
<v Speaker 1>their powers. Kyle asks, Hey, Jason and Rosie. With me

0:54:17.840 --> 0:54:19.640
<v Speaker 1>wanting to get into comics and X Men being my

0:54:19.719 --> 0:54:23.280
<v Speaker 1>favor from the original tune, what comic book issue series

0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:25.960
<v Speaker 1>would you recommend? I start with For further clarification, I'm

0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:28.719
<v Speaker 1>a black gay man, so obviously I am obsessed with

0:54:28.760 --> 0:54:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Storm and I watched The Phoenix and Dark Phoenix Saga

0:54:31.040 --> 0:54:33.560
<v Speaker 1>every three months or so. Oh Rosie, what I got it?

0:54:34.400 --> 0:54:37.719
<v Speaker 2>So first of all, I'll just say, you love Dark

0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Phoenix Saga. Read it. You can get it in a

0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:42.200
<v Speaker 2>collection Dark Phoenix Saga. It's great, some of the best

0:54:42.200 --> 0:54:46.280
<v Speaker 2>stuff ever, one of the most yeah, just absolutely wild stuff.

0:54:46.840 --> 0:54:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't the way it was supposed to go, but you

0:54:48.400 --> 0:54:50.640
<v Speaker 2>know what, some really great X Men storytelling days a

0:54:50.640 --> 0:54:52.640
<v Speaker 2>future past. I always say that, we always say this

0:54:52.680 --> 0:54:55.319
<v Speaker 2>is a great way to start because it's a couple

0:54:55.400 --> 0:54:55.920
<v Speaker 2>of issues.

0:54:56.120 --> 0:54:58.759
<v Speaker 1>You can read it early too, it's three issues. For

0:54:58.880 --> 0:55:02.600
<v Speaker 1>the impact that it has, it flows my mind. Who

0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:05.480
<v Speaker 1>issued not even like a you couldn't even call it

0:55:05.520 --> 0:55:09.600
<v Speaker 1>an arc. It's really just like part one Part two, yeah, literally, and.

0:55:09.600 --> 0:55:12.080
<v Speaker 2>It's had so much impact. It's so iconic. It's got

0:55:12.080 --> 0:55:15.719
<v Speaker 2>that unbelievable you know cover, and it's just so cool.

0:55:16.320 --> 0:55:18.520
<v Speaker 2>In a chat with Louis Simonson and I, I discovered

0:55:18.560 --> 0:55:19.719
<v Speaker 2>that she was the one who came up with the

0:55:19.719 --> 0:55:21.600
<v Speaker 2>idea of the dead dead dead, like what. It was

0:55:21.719 --> 0:55:25.200
<v Speaker 2>really cool stuff. Yeah, and for Storm, this is one

0:55:25.200 --> 0:55:28.040
<v Speaker 2>of my favorite questions. Basically we talk about it a lot.

0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:29.920
<v Speaker 2>You want to go to Uncanny x Men. There's a

0:55:29.920 --> 0:55:31.960
<v Speaker 2>few different things that I'm gonna lay out here. There's

0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:34.719
<v Speaker 2>an arc that's just two issues again, one hundred and

0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:37.759
<v Speaker 2>seventy Shoes one hundred and seventy three called to Have

0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:40.680
<v Speaker 2>and Have Not, and that's where Storm changes her whole look.

0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:43.000
<v Speaker 1>You know where she she she clashed.

0:55:42.760 --> 0:55:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Makes friendship, she finds an unexpected friend and just changes

0:55:46.560 --> 0:55:48.959
<v Speaker 2>her look. And Kitty pride so angry. Kitty used to suck.

0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:52.160
<v Speaker 2>She was always having a bad oppe duel, which is

0:55:52.200 --> 0:55:54.799
<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite issues that I actually have, which

0:55:54.840 --> 0:55:57.080
<v Speaker 2>is X Men Uncanny x Men two hour.

0:55:58.920 --> 0:55:59.240
<v Speaker 1>Session.

0:56:00.560 --> 0:56:02.320
<v Speaker 2>That's one of the best ever. If you love Storm,

0:56:02.360 --> 0:56:03.160
<v Speaker 2>that's a great issue.

0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:07.360
<v Speaker 1>And then No Powers, Baby, No No Powers, No Powers.

0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:11.319
<v Speaker 2>And speaking of No Powers, Uncanny x Men one eighty six,

0:56:11.360 --> 0:56:15.359
<v Speaker 2>which is Life Death that is kind of the culmination,

0:56:15.600 --> 0:56:18.759
<v Speaker 2>and it's this really interesting story about Storm and Forge

0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:21.839
<v Speaker 2>and they're kind of burgeoning relationship, but it has this

0:56:22.000 --> 0:56:25.680
<v Speaker 2>unbelievably tragic twist to do with Storm losing her powers,

0:56:25.719 --> 0:56:27.680
<v Speaker 2>so that those would be some great places to start,

0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:30.040
<v Speaker 2>but as always Uncanny X Men. You can go to

0:56:30.080 --> 0:56:32.319
<v Speaker 2>Barnes and Nobles and they sell little digests of these

0:56:32.360 --> 0:56:34.839
<v Speaker 2>that are really small, like an archie. You can buy

0:56:34.840 --> 0:56:36.680
<v Speaker 2>these in trades, you can get them online, you can

0:56:36.719 --> 0:56:39.600
<v Speaker 2>go to your library and read them. But Kyle, I'm

0:56:39.640 --> 0:56:41.480
<v Speaker 2>so glad you sent this question because we love Storm.

0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:44.520
<v Speaker 2>I truly believe Storm. I believe she is the way

0:56:44.520 --> 0:56:47.319
<v Speaker 2>in to the X Men. I think she is your

0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:51.439
<v Speaker 2>premiere X Men character for twenty twenty three. Mcu kind,

0:56:51.480 --> 0:56:53.880
<v Speaker 2>I have one more to add do.

0:56:54.080 --> 0:56:56.399
<v Speaker 1>Storm is kind of like weirdly sidelined in this one,

0:56:56.440 --> 0:56:58.960
<v Speaker 1>but she's also like the motivating factor in it. And

0:56:58.960 --> 0:57:04.200
<v Speaker 1>it's just one of my favorites stories in mutant lore,

0:57:04.360 --> 0:57:08.440
<v Speaker 1>certainly of the Claremont era. It's it's collected in a

0:57:08.480 --> 0:57:11.959
<v Speaker 1>graphic novel edition called The as Guardian Wars, which collects

0:57:12.280 --> 0:57:15.680
<v Speaker 1>X Men and off of Flight one and two, New

0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Mutants Special Edition and X Men Annual Number nine and

0:57:19.480 --> 0:57:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the Basic Just as this, the New Mutants get sucked

0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:30.360
<v Speaker 1>into a conflict in Asgard because of the machinations of

0:57:30.480 --> 0:57:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Loki and the Enchantress Uh and Storm gets wrapped in

0:57:36.080 --> 0:57:39.400
<v Speaker 1>a two and then the X Men not knowing what's

0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:42.360
<v Speaker 1>happened to their their charges. The new Mutants then has

0:57:42.400 --> 0:57:45.200
<v Speaker 1>to charge into Asgard to try and get them out,

0:57:45.640 --> 0:57:51.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's one spuggling. It's like Art Adams at his

0:57:52.040 --> 0:57:56.960
<v Speaker 1>absolute the bak of his fucking powers. As an incredible

0:57:57.720 --> 0:58:03.320
<v Speaker 1>super adventure, unbelieva are great story. It's just a great one,

0:58:03.360 --> 0:58:05.040
<v Speaker 1>one of the all time greats from the x MEO.

0:58:05.520 --> 0:58:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so Matt is asking question. Matt, I'm going to

0:58:08.480 --> 0:58:11.040
<v Speaker 2>preempt this question by saying thank you because me and

0:58:11.080 --> 0:58:12.760
<v Speaker 2>Jason talking about this all the time, and I know

0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:15.200
<v Speaker 2>it's one of our favorite topics. So yeah, let's lay

0:58:15.200 --> 0:58:18.840
<v Speaker 2>out in a more concrete way. Matt asks, I know

0:58:18.880 --> 0:58:21.560
<v Speaker 2>that the MCU has influenced some changes in the comics

0:58:21.720 --> 0:58:24.280
<v Speaker 2>as far as character art and some storylines, et cetera.

0:58:24.680 --> 0:58:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Do you think as the comics and the MCU develop

0:58:27.120 --> 0:58:30.200
<v Speaker 2>in tandem that comics will start being written in such

0:58:30.200 --> 0:58:33.160
<v Speaker 2>a way that intends to become part of the MCU.

0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Would there be a world in which a specific storyline

0:58:36.000 --> 0:58:38.640
<v Speaker 2>or comic art is written with the intent of being

0:58:38.680 --> 0:58:41.800
<v Speaker 2>the groundwork in which they become MCU Cannon, I'm just

0:58:41.840 --> 0:58:44.960
<v Speaker 2>going to start quickly by saying, I truly am of

0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:46.720
<v Speaker 2>the belief that they're already doing this.

0:58:48.360 --> 0:58:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think they already do it. I don't think

0:58:50.240 --> 0:58:52.640
<v Speaker 1>it's a one to one No. I think what they

0:58:52.720 --> 0:58:57.520
<v Speaker 1>do is they treat I think they treat the comics

0:58:57.680 --> 0:59:01.760
<v Speaker 1>as a very very active like research development for the movies,

0:59:02.360 --> 0:59:05.800
<v Speaker 1>seeing what works, what kind of like fun adventures people

0:59:05.880 --> 0:59:11.400
<v Speaker 1>could go into character characters. Yeah, certainly, Like I think

0:59:11.400 --> 0:59:14.440
<v Speaker 1>they're very strategic in terms of what characters are going

0:59:14.480 --> 0:59:16.840
<v Speaker 1>to appear in the movies. You start seeing one shots

0:59:16.840 --> 0:59:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and different things happen in the MCU, and we mentioned,

0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:22.680
<v Speaker 1>we mentioned all the time, uh, the kind of like

0:59:22.920 --> 0:59:28.640
<v Speaker 1>aborted attempt to raise the inhumans the level of exactly

0:59:28.680 --> 0:59:31.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, what are in them? That was that was

0:59:32.000 --> 0:59:37.320
<v Speaker 1>a direct attempt to fill in for the X Men,

0:59:37.360 --> 0:59:41.240
<v Speaker 1>who at the time Disney didn't own the ip uh

0:59:41.400 --> 0:59:45.760
<v Speaker 1>and by replacing them within humans. So I think you're

0:59:45.920 --> 0:59:48.160
<v Speaker 1>exactly right, they do it already. They do it already,

0:59:48.440 --> 0:59:51.680
<v Speaker 1>not not not with a direct connection, but I think

0:59:51.720 --> 0:59:56.160
<v Speaker 1>they they're clearly very strategic about the comics stories they released,

0:59:56.200 --> 0:59:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the characters who they spotlight, et cetera.

1:00:00.720 --> 1:00:03.880
<v Speaker 2>I think they see the comics as almost like a

1:00:04.560 --> 1:00:10.160
<v Speaker 2>way to introduce ideas and characters back into the mindset

1:00:10.200 --> 1:00:14.520
<v Speaker 2>of the fans. Think about our wonderful number one best

1:00:14.520 --> 1:00:19.600
<v Speaker 2>Bud Cody Ziggler and spider Punk. Cody's been absolutely smashing

1:00:19.640 --> 1:00:22.560
<v Speaker 2>it reintroducing spider Punk to people, and then we find

1:00:22.560 --> 1:00:27.120
<v Speaker 2>out spider Punk is going to be in the news.

1:00:29.120 --> 1:00:31.120
<v Speaker 2>It's like, so it's those little things that we can

1:00:31.160 --> 1:00:35.000
<v Speaker 2>get seeding that's my thing. Yet they are they seeding

1:00:35.080 --> 1:00:38.200
<v Speaker 2>something in the comics to the MCU Eve viewing another

1:00:38.240 --> 1:00:41.600
<v Speaker 2>incredible friend of the pod. Wow, we're so lucky. Eve

1:00:41.720 --> 1:00:44.760
<v Speaker 2>has a brilliant new Monica Rambo Photon. It's not a

1:00:44.800 --> 1:00:49.960
<v Speaker 2>coincidence that Monica is highlighted in the book with that

1:00:50.080 --> 1:00:53.200
<v Speaker 2>title Photon right now before the Marvels. So these things

1:00:53.200 --> 1:00:55.400
<v Speaker 2>are there now. What I think is interesting is Kevin

1:00:55.440 --> 1:01:00.400
<v Speaker 2>Feigey is in charge of like publishing operations, I believe now.

1:01:00.720 --> 1:01:03.080
<v Speaker 2>So what I will be interested to see is will

1:01:03.080 --> 1:01:06.280
<v Speaker 2>there be a world where it's less about seeding and hinting,

1:01:06.320 --> 1:01:08.280
<v Speaker 2>and will there be a world where there's an MCU

1:01:08.360 --> 1:01:12.040
<v Speaker 2>line of comics or there's a direct, more textual connection.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I think the next evolution could be and

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be very interested to see if that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>X Ray Vision will be back and we're back, Jacob

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<v Speaker 1>asks with James Gunn taking over DC and with a

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<v Speaker 1>younger Superman. Is it officially New fifty two time? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay for those not verse contra the DC comics, So

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<v Speaker 1>both Marvel and DC around the same time, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, like six or seven years ago old.

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<v Speaker 2>It was in twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, it's terrific. Twelve years ago rebooted their

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<v Speaker 1>entire line. In Marvel, it was called Heroes Reborn. In

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<v Speaker 1>DC it was called the New fifty two. Basically all

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty two titles were rebooted and started fresh.

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<v Speaker 2>They stripped down everything and really relaunched with only fifty

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<v Speaker 2>two titles. Look, it is one of the most influential

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<v Speaker 2>for all its controversy. It's one of the most influential

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<v Speaker 2>comic book situations of all time, follows the conclusion of Flashpoint,

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<v Speaker 2>which obviously is now like such an influential thing. Out

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<v Speaker 2>of it, there are so many books that people love

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<v Speaker 2>and choices and characters were completely reimagined. But it was

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<v Speaker 2>very controversial, as all kind of line wide readbooks.

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<v Speaker 1>The Markle stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the Marvel opened up Marvel now, which is

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<v Speaker 2>some of my favorite stuff. Young Avengers miss Marvel, all

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<v Speaker 2>of that stuff. DC. This was really like it was

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<v Speaker 2>really a super It's hard to express how much of

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<v Speaker 2>a big deal it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a huge deal and it happened, And like

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<v Speaker 1>many DC events, it was an attempt to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>streamline the the kind of just very very overgrown overlapping and.

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<v Speaker 2>For people, make it easier for people to jump on.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always about just jumping on point.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you what I did, jump on and

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed it. I thought it was great. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a good time with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Would we now? I'm very interested. This is a great point.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't necessarily know if Young Superman hints at kind

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<v Speaker 2>of New fifty two, but James Gunn has recently been

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<v Speaker 2>reading Grant Morrison's Batman and Robin. I do think this

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<v Speaker 2>is an era we Jim Lee is like such a

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<v Speaker 2>huge icon who is such a big part of the

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<v Speaker 2>New fifty two kind of era, And I do think

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<v Speaker 2>we could be seeing people looking back to this almost

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<v Speaker 2>as like we said, you know, twelve years ago, this

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<v Speaker 2>is historical now, this is kind of like people in

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<v Speaker 2>when they were making the two thousand and xt Me

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<v Speaker 2>movie looking back to the eighties, like we're really you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think New fifty two could be a touch point.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't ever think they're going to say it's directly

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<v Speaker 2>inspired by the New fifty two, because I do think

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<v Speaker 2>it's so controversial, but I do think that already, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>not necessarily like the greatest example, but the fact to

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<v Speaker 2>say this is a point in proof that people are

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<v Speaker 2>looking at it. The version of Black Adam and the

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<v Speaker 2>comics they were drawing from was very directly from the

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<v Speaker 2>New fifty two y Shazam, that which I love, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really excited for the next one, that New fifty two.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're already seeing characters seeded in the previous DCEU

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<v Speaker 2>flashpoint New fifty two prior to but around the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that there's a version where the New fifty

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<v Speaker 2>two is incredibly influential on this. But I will also

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<v Speaker 2>say James Gunn is a stone cold weirdo like us,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I think we're also going to be getting

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<v Speaker 2>some weirder, more deep cut you know. I could imagine

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<v Speaker 2>him doing like a Batman inc you know.

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<v Speaker 4>That.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of stuff. So yeah, I'm very interested to see

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<v Speaker 2>where it goes. But will we ever see a movie

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<v Speaker 2>called New fifty two or an allusion to it? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. It would be a brave It will be

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<v Speaker 2>a bold move, I will say it.

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of broad storylines, it's kind of a natural

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<v Speaker 1>starting point if you want to, in terms of where

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<v Speaker 1>to start stories and contemporary stories, contemporary stories that are

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<v Speaker 1>grounded in today's world, not like with you know, Superman

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<v Speaker 1>appearing in the fucking sixties or somethhit like that. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think it. I think it makes a lot of sense,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not as a one to one adaptation, but of

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<v Speaker 1>kind of spiritual adaptation to say, okay, new ownership, in

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<v Speaker 1>new creative direction, We're going to New fifty two, this

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<v Speaker 1>film universe. I think that's why I think.

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<v Speaker 2>People within DC, I'm Warner Brothers may be using that

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<v Speaker 2>phrase as you just used it. Yes, I believe it, Okay, Tyrannosaurus.

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<v Speaker 2>Greg asks a wonderful, truly wonderful question, would you want

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<v Speaker 2>a Star Wars what if animated series?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>And if so, what would you want the first season

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<v Speaker 2>to be? Like? What would some ideas be of stories

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<v Speaker 2>that you would want to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Anakin kills Palpatine right away and becomes emperor.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I love that. Okay, mine would because one of

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<v Speaker 2>my first ones is like the it's like the the

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<v Speaker 2>coin flip of that, which is what if Padme never died?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Those two would be so good. What if what if

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<v Speaker 2>Anakin killed Palpatine and what if Padme never died? I'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to see both.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be really cool. Yeah, and under in my imagination,

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<v Speaker 1>Anakin it kills Palpatine, he gets his kids and he

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<v Speaker 1>raises them as dark sis. I love that while ruling

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<v Speaker 1>the galaxy that is so hatred and fear in his heart.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the most exciting thing about what if

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<v Speaker 2>one imagine if they came at it with the esthetic

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<v Speaker 2>sensibilities of visions, so it looks different. It's but there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many options. Like obviously I'm our old school, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like an old head, I'm I'm an old person. So

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<v Speaker 2>like my first thought was like, what if Layer and

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<v Speaker 2>hands kids were Jana Solo and Jason Solo and you

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<v Speaker 2>have like the Legends stuff, and instead of Ben being

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a Jason, you actually get to see that

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<v Speaker 2>Legends canon brought to life in a more contemporary way.

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<v Speaker 2>I would also be like a what if Finn and

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<v Speaker 2>Poe fell in love? Like why not do it? It's animated, like,

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<v Speaker 2>let us have fun. I think that's the power of

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<v Speaker 2>what if is you can do so much. You could

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<v Speaker 2>do the smallest little story, and then you could do

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<v Speaker 2>like the most expansive, huge canon changing moments like this

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<v Speaker 2>idea of Anakin. I love that him raising the kids,

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<v Speaker 2>like that, getting see a real dark Luk.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what if all we Wan didn't die on

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<v Speaker 1>the desk?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Imagine you could have a lot of fun? Uh

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<v Speaker 2>what yeah? No? Another legends what I do? Like what

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<v Speaker 2>if Luke met Mara Jade just so we could see

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<v Speaker 2>so we get sad? Yeah? I mean there's so there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many incredible ones. I love that we if obi

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<v Speaker 2>Wan didn't die, I mean that you could do ten

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<v Speaker 2>seasons of Star of Star Wars.

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<v Speaker 1>What you really could? You know if there was and

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<v Speaker 1>there is? Well, I was about to say there is no.

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to say there's no kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>multiverse kind of effect in Star Wars, but then I

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<v Speaker 1>remembered rebels, the world between worlds or oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>that one of those, So like, let's put a pin

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<v Speaker 1>in that maybe there is, but God, that would be

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<v Speaker 1>really fun. That's a really cool idea to Rennosaurus, Greg.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Tynasaurs, Greg, get Disney to pay you for that one,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's that's primo.

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<v Speaker 1>Isabelle Thunderwood asks how much of Marv's funeral procession this

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<v Speaker 1>is from and or going early was a communal, coordinated

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<v Speaker 1>effort to support cast rescuing bis did Pegland cast agree

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<v Speaker 1>to meet the shipyard and set that escape up? Or

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<v Speaker 1>how much was an expression of how individuals spiritually aligned

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<v Speaker 1>will ultimately cross paths and entwine. I think the way

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<v Speaker 1>I read it was it wasn't a conscious effort on

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<v Speaker 1>anybody's part, but it was, and I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>supported by the themes of the story and the things that

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<v Speaker 1>we saw. I think it was an expression of people

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<v Speaker 1>were at their breaking point. They were fed up. A

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<v Speaker 1>beloved member of their community had been had been pounded

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<v Speaker 1>to her death, you know, and many members of their

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<v Speaker 1>community had been oppressed in prison. She said, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>many people. And whether or not it was a conscious

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<v Speaker 1>effort to cause a distraction for and or to rescue Bicks,

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't believe. I think what it was was

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<v Speaker 1>people were just had had enough. People were just had

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<v Speaker 1>had enough, and they were they were like sticking their

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<v Speaker 1>chin out hoping that the Empire would take a swim

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<v Speaker 1>because they had just had enough and they were ready

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<v Speaker 1>to fight at that point in time.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that, And actually Elizabell's like the way that

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<v Speaker 2>she posed this question actually just made me have a

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<v Speaker 2>thought as well. We talked a lot about how the

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<v Speaker 2>Force is not really something we see in action in

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<v Speaker 2>a way that we understand it. No one's lifting rocks,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, no one's doing But I kind of love

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<v Speaker 2>this idea of some kind of almost like unconscious solidarity

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<v Speaker 2>where everyone the Force was allowing these things to happen

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<v Speaker 2>in these moments because, like you said, everyone was aligned,

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<v Speaker 2>they knew what they wanted. They were at their breaking point,

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<v Speaker 2>and the right thing to bring balance to the universe,

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<v Speaker 2>to bring balance to the Force, to bring balance to Pherics,

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<v Speaker 2>was for this to happen. So I really love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I love thinking about that kind of stuff because the

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<v Speaker 2>show seems so grounded, but we know what world it

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<v Speaker 2>exists in, so I love that idea. It's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there was no no one was there with blueprints. No

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<v Speaker 2>one was like texting each other. This was somebody. This

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<v Speaker 2>was that connection of people at their last moment. And

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<v Speaker 2>maybe there was something a little bit more that allowed

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<v Speaker 2>every little thing to happen as it did. But yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what a great question, what a great show. I was

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<v Speaker 2>just thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also something Shakespearean about it, you know, like Julius Caesar.

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<v Speaker 1>How how mark Antony and Brutus make their speeches. And

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<v Speaker 1>Brutus goes first basically saying, hey, you know, I loved Caesar.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a great guy, but you know, he got

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<v Speaker 1>a little too big in the head, and unfortunately we

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<v Speaker 1>had to take them down. And then Mark Antony does

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<v Speaker 1>this emotional appeal appeal at just the right time, pointing

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<v Speaker 1>out the kind of incongruities between what Brutus said and

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<v Speaker 1>the way Julius Caesar had acted towards the people who

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<v Speaker 1>were who he was beloved of. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>there's something of that in this funeral procession, in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>how Marva's speech appears at the perfect time when everybody

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<v Speaker 1>was at that emotional tenor to go over the edge

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<v Speaker 1>and do whatever and just act out. There was no

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there was no like and then we'll overthrow

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<v Speaker 1>the empire and then we'll storm. It was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck these guys, Yeah, we've had enough. And when Marva

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<v Speaker 1>basically gave them the okay that like, it's okay to

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<v Speaker 1>fight for freedom, it's okay to do what's right on paraphrasing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And I think that message showed up at

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<v Speaker 1>just the right time. And yeah, I think to your point,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe something else was at play there. Yeah, Sheabugin asks

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<v Speaker 1>how much of a shot do you give everything everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>all at once of taking home Best Picture at the Oscars.

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<v Speaker 1>I give it like zero chance. But I was delighted

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<v Speaker 1>to see it. I think it's very clear to me

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<v Speaker 1>from the movies that were nominated that one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things the Oscars are trying desperately to do is to

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<v Speaker 1>elevate movies that were popular movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean this is I will say. The thing

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of blowing my mind is that this is

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<v Speaker 2>probably one of the first times where there's two of

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest movies of the year and of all time

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<v Speaker 2>in the Best Picture Top Gun and Avatar. Notably not

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<v Speaker 2>on years when they didn't nominate those on years when

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<v Speaker 2>it was superhero movies, but you know, they've got a

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<v Speaker 2>thing about genre. But so I think you're right. I

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<v Speaker 2>would love to see it take Best Picture. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a long shot, but I do think that Daniels

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<v Speaker 2>for Best Director is I think they might. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they'll probably get that and screenplay, but not Best Picture.

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<v Speaker 1>But I hope.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're gonna I think they have a good

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<v Speaker 2>chance of sweeping the acting norms. And I think Kikwan

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<v Speaker 2>is a I think that's a shoe in.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a shoeing too. I think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be I just can't imagine top Gun Africatic Best Picture,

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<v Speaker 1>no way.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's going to be the faith Woman's or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna be all quiet on the Western front.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a classic war movie, which the Academy loves,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's coming. Yeah, it's and you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be that Elvis is too weird. Sharon was good,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can't imagine it's too small as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Austin Butler does have a good chance for Elvis.

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<v Speaker 2>I never expected it, but I think that's your Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's such a it's such a wild Year, but eleven

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<v Speaker 2>nominations for everything everywhere, all at once. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>much does I have listened to the chat that we

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<v Speaker 2>had with the Daniels and and and just send them

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<v Speaker 2>some good vibes because they were freaked out. They deserve

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<v Speaker 2>a year ago when this movie was a hit, and

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<v Speaker 2>now it has eleven nominations, and I'm sure they're stressed.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, shouts to uh Austin Butler of

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<v Speaker 1>Wizards of Waverley Place fame, Yes would come up by

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<v Speaker 1>my guy, love that Matt Ces. If you had Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>level money to throw it the on screen adaptation of

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<v Speaker 1>your choice be a book series, comic run, or remake

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<v Speaker 1>of an old movie or show, what would it be? Personally?

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<v Speaker 1>I choose Robin Hobbes' Realm of the Elderlings books. Oh gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>what would you what would you do?

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<v Speaker 2>This is like such a hard question that for years

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<v Speaker 2>my answer would have been, uh, you know, Love and Rockets,

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<v Speaker 2>which everyone knows is one of my all time favorite

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<v Speaker 2>comic books. But I truly do believes as a grow older,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that is in its already in the best

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<v Speaker 2>form it will ever be in, which is as a

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<v Speaker 2>comic book. So I'm taking it off. So I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to say this is a newer book. I'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>shout out if you listen to the podcast, you've heard

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<v Speaker 2>it here before. But there is a manga by Komomi

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<v Speaker 2>shia Hama called wich Hat Italia. It's like if the

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<v Speaker 2>most beautiful, intricate mar story about magic was drawn by

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who loved Ur Adams, And it's about a young

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<v Speaker 2>girl who wants to learn magic and uncovers the secret

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<v Speaker 2>of magic accidentally in a world where only certain people

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<v Speaker 2>know it and has to go and study it. Is

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<v Speaker 2>honestly one of the best comics I've ever read in

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<v Speaker 2>my whole life. There's about nine. I think the tenth

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<v Speaker 2>book just came out. I think they are making an anime,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would love to see like a billion dollar

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<v Speaker 2>adaptation of that book brought to life in a way

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<v Speaker 2>that could represent the beauty of the art and the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of cozy magic of the storytelling. What would yoursby.

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<v Speaker 1>Gosh, it's really hard, right, but I gosh, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to pick a book that I just read, The Black

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<v Speaker 1>Tongue Thief by Christopher Buelman. Now there's only one. The

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<v Speaker 1>one story was published in twenty twenty one, so there's

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<v Speaker 1>only the one book, and it's unclear if he will

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<v Speaker 1>ever go back to the world world. But it is

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<v Speaker 1>a book that really knocked me out, and it has

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<v Speaker 1>like such a fully realized fun world involving magic, but

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<v Speaker 1>magic that is tightly controlled by guilds. And these guilds

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<v Speaker 1>are corrupt, and it's unclear how far their influence actually

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<v Speaker 1>runs and whether they are behind the scenes pulling the

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<v Speaker 1>strings of different things that are happening. This story takes

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<v Speaker 1>place in the kind of aftermath of these long running

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<v Speaker 1>and devastating wars against goblins that ended that devastated humanity

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<v Speaker 1>basically caused all horses to go extinct, many other had

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<v Speaker 1>caused various other plagues, and humanity is just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>getting on its feet. And as that is happening, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the cities on the periphery is attacked by giants.

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<v Speaker 1>Now important fact is this is a city that had

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<v Speaker 1>kind of ejected the Takers Guild, which is the guild

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<v Speaker 1>of thieves and the and the Magicians Guild from their territories,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning it was guild free, so you could be an

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<v Speaker 1>independent magician or an independent thief working there. But you couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no guild activities there, So what does this mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Who is doing this?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's all told from the perspective of this thief

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<v Speaker 1>named Kinschna Shanek, who is just a wonderful, unreliable narrator.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like just such a it's such a really really

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<v Speaker 1>gripping and swashbuckling read that is is really really fun

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<v Speaker 1>and wonderful and some of the best use of magic

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<v Speaker 1>of that I've read lately.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great, sounds amazing. In today's nerd out what you

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<v Speaker 2>tell us, what you love and why, or a theory

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<v Speaker 2>that you're excited to share. Sarah pictures us on the

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<v Speaker 2>beloved tabletop RPG Dungeons and Dragons from Crookedmedia started its

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<v Speaker 2>own Dungeons and Dragons campaign recently, which includes super producer Soul,

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<v Speaker 2>which means when the Dungeons and Dragon movie comes out,

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<v Speaker 2>Soul's gonna have to come on and talk about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, I'm Sarah, and I'm here to pitch you on

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<v Speaker 4>Dungeons and Dragons. It may seem like everyone knows about

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<v Speaker 4>D and D these days, but I'm a woman in

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<v Speaker 4>my thirties and it was only in my thirties that

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<v Speaker 4>I first discovered it. Shout out to my sister if

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<v Speaker 4>you're unfamiliar with the game. It's a multiplayer role playing

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<v Speaker 4>game which focuses on teamwork and storytelling. You play as

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<v Speaker 4>a singular character with a fantasy race like an Elf,

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<v Speaker 4>and class like a wizard, who teams up with an

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<v Speaker 4>unlikely band of heroes and faces challenges from paying the

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<v Speaker 4>bar tab displaying dragons. You can embody absolutely any character

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<v Speaker 4>you like, exploring different genders and identities, and form lifelong

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<v Speaker 4>bonds with the other players. It's an absolute feast for creativity,

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<v Speaker 4>allowing you to build genuinely transferable problem solving skills and

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<v Speaker 4>quick thinking. Empathy, daring, and math are just a few

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<v Speaker 4>things you can learn at a D and D table.

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<v Speaker 4>As a woman in my thirties, I've found today's players

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<v Speaker 4>to be a welcoming and inclusive group, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to encourage anyone who's sitting on the fence to give

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<v Speaker 4>it a try. If you're looking for content to get

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<v Speaker 4>you into it, The Juggernaut is critical role for good reason,

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<v Speaker 4>but some other great content is not. Another D and

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<v Speaker 4>D podcast, The Adventure Zone podcast, Rude Tales of Magic

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<v Speaker 4>podcast and Dimension twenty. I hope you find boundless excitement

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<v Speaker 4>and entertainment within the many worlds of D and D.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Sarah. If you have theories or passions you

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<v Speaker 2>want to share, hit us up extra at croocket dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Instructions as always are in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for us, Rosie any plugs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can find me Rosie marks on letterbox and Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>You will be able to read some of my storm

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<v Speaker 2>stories about these things that we're talking about. I've written

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<v Speaker 2>at IGN about a couple of these big DC news.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have some other core stuff coming out soon,

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously ant Man's coming up, baby, so get ready

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<v Speaker 2>for those anti takes. There's gonna be ants.

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