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Speaker 1: The Friday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off right now,

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Speaker 1: and we have updates for you on the horrific crash

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Speaker 1: the details. Also, our friend Ambert Smith will be with us.

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Speaker 1: She is a former Kiowa combat helicopter pilots, to join

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Speaker 1: us bottom of this hour to talk about what she

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Speaker 1: thinks has happened here. Also, there's new video out to

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Speaker 1: show the crash from different angles, really the collision from

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Speaker 1: different angles between that Blackhawk helicopter and the Regional jet.

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Speaker 1: They've just collided at high speed. Sixty seven deaths from this,

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Speaker 1: as we know, at a horrible tragedy and something that

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Speaker 1: has to be averted in the future. So it's important

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Speaker 1: to figure out what went wrong here, what could be

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Speaker 1: done differently. There's already reporting that there were not there

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Speaker 1: were not the proper staffing for the air traffic controllers

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Speaker 1: at the time of this, which is obviously incredibly upsetting

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Speaker 1: for everyone to hear staffing levels not normal inside the

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Speaker 1: Reagan Airport control tower during the time of the crash.

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Speaker 1: According to The Washington Post, there was no single controller

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Speaker 1: dedicated to managing helicopter traffic, so we'll get into more

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Speaker 1: of these details. We also have some other stories we're

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Speaker 1: going to cover today. The confirmation battles for Cash Betel

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Speaker 1: and Tulci Gabbard. Those still underway. We're going to see

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Speaker 1: how all of that shakes out. And we've got some

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Speaker 1: updates from Trump himself, including on birthright citizenship. I think

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Speaker 1: he's got it right. Clay thinks he's got it right.

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Speaker 1: We will the court Supreme Court end up thinking. We'll

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Speaker 1: discuss this coming up over the course of the show.

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Speaker 1: We also have our friend Will Kine, by the way,

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Speaker 1: who I really started my media career alongside at The

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Speaker 1: Blaze many years ago. He is just saying it's very like,

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Speaker 1: look very proud. He's had an amazing arc. He is

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Speaker 1: now the four PM host at Fox News. Another guy

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Speaker 1: that we used to do that show with a lot

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Speaker 1: of Pete Hegseth who's now Secretary of Defense, and Will's

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Speaker 1: former co hosts. So we will talk about so Will

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Speaker 1: and I were co host, Pete and Will were co hosts.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to Will about his new show and everything

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Speaker 1: going up in the news. That's in the third hour.

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Speaker 1: You all know Will Kine. So we'll be joined by him.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Clay, there's already a kind of a

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Speaker 1: fierce back and forth over the ideological problems that may

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Speaker 1: have been caused within or that may have caused problems

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Speaker 1: within idological issues that may have caused problems within the

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Speaker 1: air traffic control system, within selection for pilots, any of

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Speaker 1: these things. There's a lot of conversation going on around this.

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Speaker 1: And we know that diversity, equity and inclusion has been

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Speaker 1: a focus of airlines in recent years. We know the

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Speaker 1: government under Biden has been pushing this relentlessly. Well, here's

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Speaker 1: a throwback during the Biden years that I think you

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Speaker 1: all need to see. This is back just in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three, so not long ago, and it is Senator

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Speaker 1: Ted Cruz who is questioning. This is a longer clip.

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Speaker 1: We wanted you to hear the whole thing. He is

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Speaker 1: questioning Biden's nominee for FAA Administrator, Phil Washington. I want

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Speaker 1: you to listen in and think to yourself, as Ted

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Speaker 1: Cruise is working through this, why the heck should this

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Speaker 1: person be in charge of the FAA, which deals with

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Speaker 2: Play it the ever flowing a plane.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for the question, Senator No. I have never

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Speaker 3: flown a plane, so you weren't a military pilot or

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Speaker 4: No center, have you ever worked for an airline?

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Speaker 3: No center, have you ever worked as an air traffic controller?

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Speaker 2: No senator, he ever worked for a.

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Speaker 3: Company that manufactures airplanes? No cenator, you ever worked for

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Speaker 3: a company that fixes airplanes?

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Speaker 4: No center.

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Speaker 3: FA administrator is a specialized position. I'm not qualified to

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Speaker 3: be FA administrator. I've no idea how a flyplane. No

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Speaker 3: I suspect most of the members of this committee are

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Speaker 3: in a similar position the American people when they think

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Speaker 3: this committee a Southwest Airlines and FedEx plane almost colliding

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Speaker 3: to keep them safe. And with all respect, mister Washington,

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Speaker 3: it gives no comfort to the flying public that their

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Speaker 3: and killing them. I believe your record is woefully lacking,

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Speaker 3: and in fact you.

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Speaker 2: Have zero aviation safety experience.

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Speaker 1: I think this exchange typifies a lot of what's upset

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Speaker 5: Clay totally, and again we still have to get the

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Speaker 5: full details to come out. There's a new video buck

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Speaker 5: that I'm sure you have seen, that shows even in

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Speaker 2: And it seems as.

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Speaker 5: More and more evidence is coming out that what we

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Speaker 5: The actual airplane pilot, it appears, had no knowledge to

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Speaker 5: that the helicopter pilot was flying too tall, too high,

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Speaker 5: above ground, so that has to be determined. There is

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Speaker 5: audio of air traffic control. Now there's reports that air

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Speaker 5: certainly is something to be investigated as well. But there

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Speaker 5: American Airlines flight coming in from Wichita. So at some

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Speaker 5: point the assessment of blame should there have been a

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Speaker 5: more specific designation given to the air traffic control. Were

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Speaker 5: the helicopter crew looking at another airplane and believing that

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Speaker 5: the seeing that airplane. There's still a lot of details

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Speaker 1: Steven Miller, the Deputy White House Chief of Staff, this

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Speaker 1: is cut eight. He weighed on this heavily. And you

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Speaker 1: going there? No, because he's saying things that people under

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Speaker 1: the circumstances want to be said out loud, because everyone's

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Speaker 6: Well, it's absolutely heartbreaking and this devastating, but even more

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Speaker 6: so because it's so preventable. As President Trump said today,

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Speaker 6: over the last four years, the FAA, the Federal Aviation

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Speaker 6: Administration and Air Traffic Control under JOBADEN have been dedicated

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Speaker 6: trying to advance social engineering, political ideology, trying to hire

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Speaker 6: It means instead of spending four years trying to solve

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Speaker 1: This is the heart of the issue on so many things. Clay,

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Speaker 1: this came up in the California wildfires. As we know,

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Speaker 1: fire chief and there's the video saying, you know, how

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Speaker 1: so yeah, people want to have a lot of people

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Speaker 1: People want to be safe in the air. People want

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Speaker 1: their career prospects. I also think we hit it on

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Speaker 1: an examination of why we're doing helicopter training in that

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Speaker 1: I do think that is a point of contention, right

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Speaker 1: think it's a fair question. I've been reading some about this,

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Speaker 1: That's why the training has to happen. But are there

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Speaker 1: I think that will be a big part of the

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Speaker 1: discussion as well. But in general, the immediate desire to

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Speaker 7: So here's the thing. Trump can blame anyone and everything

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Speaker 7: that he wants, right, But the reality is this horror

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Speaker 7: people in place. In fact, on his second day in office,

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Speaker 7: President Trump issued an executive order that called for an

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Speaker 7: And he did that despite the fact that the FAA

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Speaker 7: But as a result of Trump's day one hiring freeze,

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Speaker 7: no federal civilian position could be filled. Also, there was

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Speaker 5: So you know how this is going to work. I

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Speaker 5: mean they tried before this commercial airline tragedy. The story

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Speaker 5: suddenly we talked about this a little bit on air.

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Speaker 5: Was Trump's to blame for the price of eggs. You know,

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Speaker 5: Trump has been in office for what is the ten days,

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Speaker 5: basically twelve days, whatever the math is on how long

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Speaker 5: Trump has been in office. Expecting him to address the

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Speaker 5: price of eggs and also fix the federal aviation issues

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Speaker 5: seems like a really expansive definition of what you expect

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Speaker 1: Well, you can also look at the number. She's an

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Speaker 1: idiot and put that aside for a second. Eighty percent

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Speaker 5: not real, it disinterests me. And then eventually they moved

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Speaker 5: from that's not real to you remember that the next

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Speaker 5: step on the train. The next step was, well, why

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Speaker 5: do we care about Hunter Biden's personal proclivities and drug addiction?

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Speaker 5: Like that's he's not the president of the United States.

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Speaker 5: Like that was the step. Once it became clear it

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Speaker 5: was real, it was well why do we care about Hunter?

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Speaker 5: And I give credit to Miranda Divine in New York

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Speaker 5: Post team. They actually didn't write about the most salacious

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Speaker 5: aspects of the laptop. They focused directly on the connection

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Speaker 5: between Hunter and Joe and the money that was received

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Speaker 5: based on access to the president.

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Speaker 1: Just remember Joe Biden pardoned his whole family, his whole

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Speaker 1: immediate family on the way out of office. Remember Hunter

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Speaker 1: was before, and then there was the whole slew so

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Speaker 1: for ten years, Yeah, going all the way back to

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, which is yeah, it's I mean that it's

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Speaker 1: unheard of preemptively pardon them for a full decade of activity. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And it is very fair to ask how did all

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Speaker 1: these Bidens have so much money? What exactly did they do?

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Speaker 1: They were selling access, they were selling out their country,

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Speaker 1: and that should never be forgotten when we look at

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Speaker 1: the record of Joe Biden. So the guy who was

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Speaker 1: the clearest other than if you want to talk about

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Speaker 1: like the Clinton line under oath stuff, but the clearest

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Speaker 1: criminal conduct we've seen of somebody who has been a president,

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Speaker 1: actual criminal conduct, not make believe stuff like they did

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Speaker 1: against Trump, is the guy who had his rival prosecuted

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Speaker 1: four times in an election year. That's a pretty remarkable record.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden walks away with I think that the good

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Speaker 1: news for Biden Clay is that his regime ended so

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Speaker 1: ignominiously that he will quickly be someone who no one

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Speaker 1: even thinks or talks about people And within a few years,

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Speaker 1: people will be saying themselves, wait, who was president before Trump?

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Speaker 1: The second time? You know it's gonna take a moment. Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's right, it was Biden.

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Speaker 5: And it's also why twenty fourteen, if you're out there

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Speaker 5: and you're saying, that's when Biden recognized and believed that

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Speaker 5: Biden suddenly gets looked over, passed over, and they're gonna

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Speaker 5: give Hillary the nomination. He didn't ever think that he

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Speaker 5: would have the opportunity to run for president. He thought

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Speaker 5: he was going to be a private citizen from that

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Speaker 5: when the money really started to pour in. And that's

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Speaker 5: what he protected his family from. And it was absolutely

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Speaker 5: I think was dirtier than any president at any point

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Speaker 5: after Nixon, but Nixon was arguably for Watergate, just a

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Speaker 5: of actions that Trump is undertaking on a daily basis.

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Speaker 5: As we finish up we number two of his administration.

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Speaker 5: It's hard to believe it's only been two weeks given

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Speaker 5: all the actions that he's undertaken. We got fifty more

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Speaker 5: more weeks of Trump in office before we figure out

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 5: But Buck, I think actually the most consequential thing Trump

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Speaker 5: has done in the first two weeks is an executive

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Speaker 5: order ending birthright citizenship. And we talked about this when

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Speaker 5: he did it and why it was so far reaching

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Speaker 5: that it would slowly work its way through the courts,

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Speaker 5: and we think at some point likely end up in

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Speaker 5: front of the Supreme Court to see what does the

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Speaker 5: fourteenth Amendment actually mean as it pertains the birthright citizenship

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Speaker 5: and kind of giving you a little bit of a

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Speaker 5: quick history lesson birthright citizenship is a legacy of colonialism

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Speaker 5: because when the United States was a colony of England,

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Speaker 5: the idea was in order to leave England and go

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Speaker 5: live in the hinterland of the New World. You didn't

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Speaker 5: necessarily want to cut your ties forever with England, and

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Speaker 5: so they said, your children will be British subjects as well,

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Speaker 5: So even though you are being born in a different land,

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Speaker 5: you will still be considered a British subject. And every

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Speaker 5: other colony basically did this as well. So if you

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Speaker 5: were coming from Portugal to Brazil, let's say, for instance,

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Speaker 5: or if you were from Spain going to Cuba, or

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Speaker 5: you were from France going out into the French New

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Speaker 5: Orleans area the French territories as they were called at

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Speaker 5: the time, you were still a citizen of those countries

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Speaker 5: even though you were born here. Now, obviously we had

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Speaker 5: the Revolutionary War, America establishes its independence. But by and large,

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Speaker 5: even as no other country had by soil citizenship, America

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Speaker 5: and Brazil and Canada and a few other of the

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Speaker 5: New World countries maintained this policy. Now, fourteenth Amendment comes along,

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Speaker 5: and the fourteenth Amendment is passed to ensure that slaves

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Speaker 5: and the children of slaves are also American citizens because

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Speaker 5: they had previously been excluded from citizenship. And that Fourteenth Amendment,

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Speaker 5: and I'm taking you through the entire of quick history.

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Speaker 5: Here is now what is going to be decided? What

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Speaker 5: is the meaning of subject to the jurisdiction within the

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Speaker 5: language of the fourteenth Amendment. Trump was asked about this

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Speaker 5: and gave his answer yesterday, this is Trump on birthright citizenship.

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Speaker 2: Cut to.

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Speaker 5: Got to Trump on birthright citizenship, and eventually maybe I

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Speaker 5: imagine that we may or may not have Trump on

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Speaker 5: birthright citizenship period. Do you believe that.

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Speaker 3: There are five votes of the Supreme Court that would

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Speaker 3: have pulled your position?

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Speaker 10: I think so. Yeah. Look, birthright citizenship was if you

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Speaker 10: look back when this was pasted and made, that was

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Speaker 10: meant for the children of slaves. This was not meant

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Speaker 10: for the whole world to come into Poland to the

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Speaker 10: United States of America, everybody coming in and totally unqualified

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Speaker 10: people with perhaps unqualified children.

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Speaker 3: This wasn't meant for that.

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Speaker 10: This was meant when it was originally done for the

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Speaker 10: children of slaves, and that was a very good and

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Speaker 10: noble thing to do, and I'm in favor of that

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Speaker 10: one hundred percent. But it wasn't meant for the entire

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Speaker 10: world to occupy the United States.

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Speaker 5: Not an awful answer here. I mean, Trump's not a

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Speaker 5: legal scholar, but he's pretty good there.

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 9: No.

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Speaker 1: I like the the lay person way he put it though,

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Speaker 1: really gets right to it, which is it was about slaves.

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Speaker 1: You know, then Americans obviously freed uh and their descendants.

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Speaker 1: It was not so that people could come here on

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Speaker 1: and go back to their home country and then come

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Speaker 1: back here as an adult and sponsor their entire family

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Speaker 1: and skip the whole immigration line and become and become

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Speaker 1: quote Americans like that. That's not the way that the

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Speaker 1: system is supposed to work. That's part one. Clearly, there

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Speaker 1: are scams that are run using this and that has

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Speaker 1: to be addressed because that cannot be That was not

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Speaker 1: the intent of the fourteenth Amendment. That was not the

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Speaker 1: intent of the founders. That's not supposed to happen. Also, Clay,

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Speaker 1: as we know there is an you know, an extra

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Speaker 1: extra territoriality or extra territorial component to our laws when

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Speaker 1: it comes to citizenship that is already in effect. We know,

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Speaker 1: if you're born, as we've talked about, if you're military

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Speaker 1: and you give birth to you know, your wife has

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Speaker 1: a baby in Germany, you're an American citizen. To American

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Speaker 1: parents US jurisdiction, you're an American citizen. Don't know, question

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Speaker 1: about it. On the other side of it, if a

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Speaker 1: Russian diplomat has a baby in DC, that baby is Russian.

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Speaker 1: But what's interesting is that if a low level staffer

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Speaker 1: in the embassy has a baby here, because of the

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Speaker 1: interpretation up to this point, that baby actually may be

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Speaker 1: given a pack. Like it's whether or not you're on

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Speaker 1: the DIP list, the diplomatic list sort of the official

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Speaker 1: list of those who have diplomatic community. But my point

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Speaker 1: here is merely it's not just you're here, so you're

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Speaker 1: you're an American. That's actually not the law, and it

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Speaker 1: actually is.

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Speaker 5: And I think again this is why having the conversation matters,

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Speaker 5: because a lot of people just don't realize how rare

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Speaker 5: this is. Building on what you said, Buck, if you're

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Speaker 5: born in Germany, you aren't a German citizen. If you go,

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Speaker 5: if your wife is, if you're studying abroad in Germany,

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Speaker 5: or you are sent to Germany to work as an

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Speaker 5: employee of a company international company, and you're American and

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Speaker 5: you have a family in Germany, and you and your

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Speaker 5: wife are Americans. Your kids don't become German, and they

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Speaker 5: don't become British, and they don't become French. What we

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Speaker 5: do is actually the exception. They don't become Japanese, they

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Speaker 5: don't become Chinese. There's two types of citizenship. By blood,

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Speaker 5: which is the historic and typical way in which you

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Speaker 5: would be a citizen of a land. That is, your

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Speaker 5: dad or your mom are citizens, and by birth you

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Speaker 5: become a citizen as well. And then there's by soil.

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Speaker 5: And to what you said, Buck, in eighteen sixty eight,

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Speaker 5: when this amendment was put in place, no one who

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Speaker 5: was pregnant could decide by and large, hey I'm going

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Speaker 5: to travel to the United States to have a baby.

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Speaker 5: It took months to get to the United States basically

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Speaker 5: from anywhere around the world. And so this has never

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Speaker 5: really been examined by the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 2: What will they say?

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Speaker 5: What Trump was asked was do you think five Supreme

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Speaker 5: Court justices are going to agree with your interpretation? He said, yes,

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I wouldn't even claim to predict. It

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Speaker 5: is very complicated to think about but I give Trump

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Speaker 5: credit for raising it as an issue. I would actually

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Speaker 5: ask Congress to pass a law that says birthright citizenship

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Speaker 5: doesn't exist in the United States anymore, because I think

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Speaker 5: it would go a long way towards disincentivizing people from

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Speaker 5: breaking our immigration laws and coming here.

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Speaker 1: It also demeans what it is to be a citizen

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Speaker 1: when the interpretation of law that we have is that,

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Speaker 1: like I said again, somebody comes here, they have a

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Speaker 1: baby here, they leave, they have non US citizen parents,

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Speaker 1: they're hearing a tourist visa, they leave after let's say

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Speaker 1: a few weeks, they live in a foreign country, their

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Speaker 1: whole lives. According to what the Democrats and even some

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Speaker 1: Republicans say on this, when that person comes back after

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Speaker 1: twenty years to America, not speaking English, having lived in

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Speaker 1: a foreign country, having had all of their their connections,

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Speaker 1: their patriots, and everything foreign, they are as American Clay

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Speaker 1: as you, me and everybody listening to this. As a citizen.

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Speaker 1: They're exactly the same, exactly the same rights, exactly the

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Speaker 1: same benefits and duties, I might add, And I just

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Speaker 1: think that that's out I just think that's an obvious outrage,

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Speaker 1: and it demeans what it is to be an American,

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Speaker 1: and this needs to be clarified. And this is something

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Speaker 1: that we've been forced to have to force to clarify

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Speaker 1: because of one. As I said, the changes in mass transportation,

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Speaker 1: specifically air travel, means that the whole world can come

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Speaker 1: here and scam us as they have been doing. People

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Speaker 1: come across by foot and the southern border, as we know,

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Speaker 1: and they run the same kind of a scam. And

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Speaker 1: we've gotten now the point where you have tens of

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Speaker 1: millions of people who are in this country in violation

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Speaker 1: of the laws of this land in the first place.

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Speaker 1: So of course we're going to look at this now.

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Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't a problem before because people weren't

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Speaker 1: scamming it before. I would also add, our asylum system

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Speaker 1: needs to be changed entirely. Asylum has been the little

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Speaker 1: little cracked door that they have ripped open and used

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Speaker 1: to bring millions and millions of people who are in

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Speaker 1: bad faith exploiting the goodness of the American ideal that

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Speaker 1: we're a safe harbor for some. We're not a safe

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Speaker 1: harbor for the whole world. We're safe harbor for some

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Speaker 1: people who are under true duress. We take some of

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Speaker 1: them to be a good nation because we're good people.

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Speaker 1: We don't have to do this. You got to shut

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Speaker 1: this thing down, or you've got to make it where

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Speaker 1: people have to You know, it can only be refugee,

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Speaker 1: no more asylum. You got to be a refugee who

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Speaker 1: applies to abroad. We vet you, and it's serious, and

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Speaker 1: we believe it and we trust it.

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Speaker 5: I saw you on must shared today speaking on the

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Speaker 5: asylum claim buck that eighty percent of Europeans who claim

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Speaker 5: that they had to flee their country for fear of

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Speaker 5: peril have later vacation in the country that from which

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Speaker 5: they claimed asylum, and that they did another word scem.

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Speaker 5: If you really were in danger of being arrested or

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Speaker 5: prosecuted based on something in your home country, the last

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Speaker 5: thing you would do is when you get your asylum

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Speaker 5: granted in the European Union, to decide to go back

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Speaker 5: and visit your home country. When we gave defectors from

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Speaker 5: the Soviet Union asylum here, they didn't go back to

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Speaker 5: check out what's going on in Moscow while the Soviet

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Speaker 5: Union still existed, because it was too dangerous, which is

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Speaker 5: why we gave them asylum. Right that's the whole point.

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Speaker 5: So this is, you know, the third world has just

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Speaker 5: pulled this on the the you know, Western European and

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Speaker 5: American world in a way that is you know changing,

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Speaker 5: It's like civilization shifting really because of the numbers that

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Speaker 5: we're talking about and the fact that people want to

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Speaker 5: pretend like this isn't a problem, and I'll be is

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Speaker 5: a problem because if it's not, why do we have

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Speaker 5: all of these laws in place about why.

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Speaker 1: Have an immigration system? What's the point, Clay? If it's

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Speaker 1: nothing but upside? Why not just let everyone? Why not

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Speaker 1: be open borders if there's no cost, because at some

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Speaker 1: level people recognize that means you don't have a country. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's why my question for the people who

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Speaker 1: are most zealously advocating for illegal immigrants not to be returned. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what would be the number that you would acknowledge is

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Speaker 1: too many? They're seven billion people roughly in the world.

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Speaker 1: Why should we not take in a billion people from

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Speaker 1: a foreign country and let them live here? Like, what

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Speaker 1: is the number where you would say, no, you know what,

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Speaker 1: that's too high? Most Americans have said the last four

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Speaker 1: years of Biden, we've taken in too many people. I

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Speaker 1: think the number right now buck fifteen percent of the

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Speaker 1: United States population right now was not born here. That's

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Speaker 1: a pretty ridiculously high percentage. Fifteen percent of the people

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Speaker 1: that are American citizens now were not born in the

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Speaker 1: United States team in New York. You can correct me

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Speaker 1: on that if I'm wrong, But I think that's the

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Speaker 1: most recent census estimate, and I believe it is higher

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Speaker 1: now than it was in the immediate aftermath of Ellis Island.

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Speaker 1: And of course, what no one talks about during the

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Speaker 1: Ellis Island era is we needed population. We had a great,

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Speaker 1: big country that we had needed farmed, and that we

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Speaker 1: wanted to be able to unleash the economic potential of

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Speaker 1: a lot of people went back because in nineteen hundred,

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Speaker 1: there was no welfare check, there were no you know,

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Speaker 1: snap or EBT cards waiting for you. There was no

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Speaker 1: you know, publicly subsidized hotel rooms or housing or culturally

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Speaker 1: sensitive meals handed to you every day, and all you

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Speaker 1: know that didn't exist. So people actually went I think

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Speaker 1: something like twenty percent of immigrants that came through Ellis

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Speaker 1: Island turned home because it was so hard here. Well,

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Speaker 1: now we have a very large welfare state, and we're

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Speaker 1: the wealthiest country in the world by far. So guess what,

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Speaker 1: it's very different, very different situation. That's why when people say,

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Speaker 1: you know, even with the Margaret Brennan thing, which has

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Speaker 1: spawned a million funny memes, you know, oh, we're we're

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Speaker 1: a nation of immigrants. People were showing up here hoping

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Speaker 1: they weren't going to get scalped by Indians. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: very different than showing up here saying where's my free food,

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Speaker 1: classroom for my kids who are also coming with me.

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Speaker 1: That's a different thing. So I think we can all

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Speaker 1: understand and accept that. I look forward to day when

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Speaker 1: with this issue. There's no easy answer. So how can

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Speaker 9: Stories are freedom stories of America, inspirational stories that you

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Speaker 9: unite us all each day, spend time with Clay and

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Speaker 9: find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you

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Speaker 1: Our friend Will Caine joins us. He is the host

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Speaker 1: of the Will Kine Show, also the Will Podcast, and

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Speaker 1: you can watch him every day at four Eastern on

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Speaker 1: Fox News. Mister Will, first of all, man, congrats on

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Speaker 1: the four pm slot, richly deserved and it is it

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Speaker 1: is fun for me to watch my oldest friends in media,

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Speaker 1: either taking over media or running the country, as in

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Speaker 1: the case of our good friend Pete. So it's a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun stuff going on.

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you, my friend, both of you, my friends.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that we've done this every time we've

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Speaker 4: been on air. You know, it's fun. I saw a

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Speaker 4: hater this morning post you know what businesses Fox and

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Speaker 4: Friends have talking about the government, and then they said, well,

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Speaker 4: Fox and Friends is kind of now running the government.

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Speaker 4: So it's like and if you rewind the clock back,

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Speaker 4: you know, Buck, what fifteen years where we first sat

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Speaker 4: down on a table on an offshoot news network, the Blaze.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's gone. Well, it's gone fun and it's

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Speaker 4: fun to look around and see secondary of defense Clay

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Speaker 4: and Buck show everywhere.

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Speaker 5: Well, what first, congrats on the new show. What should

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Speaker 5: people know who have not yet gotten to see it?

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Speaker 5: How is your show different? What's kind of the goal

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Speaker 5: for the Fox News audience of what you're putting out

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Speaker 5: there every day now at four o'clock eastern, right, four

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Speaker 5: o'clock eastern.

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Speaker 4: Clay, I'm not going to give you the pr stuff,

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm just going to talk it out loud

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Speaker 4: with you guys. So you know what the most encouraging

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Speaker 4: thing was when they called me and they said, hey,

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Speaker 4: this is what we're thinking. What do you think? Well,

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Speaker 4: the first thing I heard was from Texas, and I

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Speaker 4: was like, are you kidding me? The answer is yes.

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Speaker 4: So getting to do this show from Texas is a

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Speaker 4: dream for me. I left New York, you know, five

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Speaker 4: years ago, and I made it a pretty clear I'm

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Speaker 4: not coming back. I just I'm from Texas, my family's

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Speaker 4: from Texas, and I have to raise my boys in Texas.

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Speaker 4: So but my point is when they called me, Clay,

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Speaker 4: they were like, we just want you to be you.

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Speaker 4: That's all we want you to be. And I'm like,

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Speaker 4: well that's pretty cool. I don't know what that means,

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Speaker 4: but thank you. Yeah. So right now, what makes this

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Speaker 4: show different is me and how I think and approach

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Speaker 4: the news. I have a lot of overlap with both

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Speaker 4: you guys. You know, I've known you both for veryous Clay,

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Speaker 4: you and I look at things very legally and analytically

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Speaker 4: and logically, and you know that's how I approach most things. Honestly.

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Speaker 4: Over time, I've tried, I've grown and I try not

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Speaker 4: to be so like black and white, you know. And

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Speaker 4: I've known Buck forever, and you know, when I knew

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Speaker 4: you a long time ago, Bucks, I would have described

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Speaker 4: myself as more libertarian, and I've evolved. Man, I'm not

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Speaker 4: so much that anymore. I'm an American. That's my prism.

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Speaker 4: So when people tune in it for they're going to

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Speaker 4: see me look at the news and asking questions about

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Speaker 4: what these stories matter to Americans? Does it make our

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Speaker 4: lives better or worse? Does it matter to us? How

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Speaker 4: does it affect our lives? And I'll try to be

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Speaker 4: deep and smart. I'll try to be fun. I'll try

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Speaker 4: not thinking myself seriously and then real quick Clay. Over time,

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Speaker 4: you're going to see this show look and feel different

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Speaker 4: than most things on Fox. It's going to be much

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Speaker 4: more relaxed but professional. You know, we're building a studio

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Speaker 4: in Dallas. It's going to reflect you know, some of

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Speaker 4: what I've done throughout my career with Bucket, Real News,

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Speaker 4: even ESPN and some guys at ESPN that I learned

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Speaker 4: from in terms of aesthetics and appeal. And so I

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Speaker 4: don't know, hang in there, man, watch what we're doing

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Speaker 4: now is great, we're setting ratings records and all that,

869
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 4: But in six months this show is going to be

870
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Speaker 4: quadruple what we're doing now.

871
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: Now, will I want to know, how are you viewing

872
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: things from from your prism here we are? I think

873
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: it's a second week, right, I'm still trying to remember

874
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: when it was the inauguration. Feels like it went on

875
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 1: for quite some time. Clay, the inauguration was just happened.

876
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: When in the second week and Trump has just come

877
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: out with a salvo. I mean, it's just there's so

878
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: much stuff happening, and how are you seeing it and

879
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 1: what's sort of your expectation of where it goes from here,

880
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: especially as some who goes that saying has some connections

881
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: at the top reaches of the Trump the Trump sphere.

882
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 4: Somebody I did this like Interviews of the Day, Buck

883
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 4: and somebody said, they asked me, what overlap do you

884
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 4: see between politics and sports? Everybody always probably does this

885
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 4: with Clay as well. And I'll say this, you know, Clay,

886
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 4: Colin Coward I think once said like they're the same,

887
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 4: you know, Cowboys versus Eagles is the same thing as

888
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 4: Republican versus Democrats. People want to hear about their teams.

889
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 4: I thought that was kind of interesting, but it's not

890
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 4: how I see this at all. But to answer your question, Buck,

891
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 4: there is something else in sports that I take from

892
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 4: the first two weeks of the Trump presidency, and that

893
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 4: is play offense. We've learned that from Donald Trump. Always

894
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 4: play offense, don't play defense. I mean, whatever we're on,

895
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 4: how many how many executive orders and executive actions are

896
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 4: we up to? I don't know, but we're reshaping America

897
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 4: in a two week time frame, and again we're it

898
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 4: is getting started because he's playing offense. We'll see what

899
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 4: the legislative agenda includes. But it's incredible. And here's the

900
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 4: real question I want to ask you guys, like what

901
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 4: did it come just in time for? Like, was the

902
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 4: left a on the verge of consolidating power really from

903
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 4: now into an indefinite future of controlling media, big business, government,

904
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 4: and thought processes. Or was what we solved the last

905
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 4: four years actually a desperate, dying attempt to regain control

906
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,240
Speaker 4: over something that they were losing dating back to twenty sixteen.

907
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 5: It's a great debate and it's one that historians fifty

908
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 5: years from now will be able to look at and

909
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 5: say hey, these were the significant sort of lynch pins,

910
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 5: and we'll have a better answer on it.

911
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 2: Right now, I.

912
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 5: Would say, elon buying Twitter and Trump being elected and

913
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 5: not just being elected, but winning the popular vote, i e.

914
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 5: Winning comfortably in the electoral college, winning all the battleground states,

915
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 5: I think is symptomatic.

916
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: Right now.

917
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 5: My thesis would be will that they created with social

918
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 5: media platforms and artificial version of reality. Remember that debate

919
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 5: we used to always have as Twitter real life or not,

920
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 5: and a lot of people thought it was.

921
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 2: And I think finally.

922
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 5: They pushed it and it blew up on them, and

923
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 5: it's almost like this is the swing back to sanity,

924
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 5: but we never really left. They just convinced us that

925
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 5: the world was different than it was.

926
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 2: Does that make.

927
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 4: Sense, Yeah, and then began to consolidate control based upon

928
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 4: that false reality. And it was a house of cards

929
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 4: that came tumbling down, and we're watching it being torn

930
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,479
Speaker 4: down now in real time.

931
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: I think they went I think to echo. I think

932
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: where both of you guys are on this. That what

933
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 1: we experienced with the left in the era of really

934
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: the era of Trump Biden Trump, right, I mean, going

935
00:51:55,600 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: back all the way was the combination of panic at

936
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 1: their fear of losing control and exuberance at their sense

937
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: of having total control. Right. And I know that those

938
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: things seem like they're in but they're they're often in contention.

939
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: You look at the totalitarian regime. They exercise the absolute

940
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: control they can, and they're always paranoid about losing control

941
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: at the same time. And I think that that really

942
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: came to a head in COVID and also with their

943
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: dominance of Silicon Valley and the Internet, in a way

944
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: that people just realize this is this is about to take.

945
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: I think America was actually on the brink of taking

946
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: a turn into a very even darker and scarier place

947
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: than it was under Joe Biden. And I think that

948
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: what we've seen with Trump is at least a stay

949
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: on that, if not perhaps the opening of a new

950
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 1: direction for us to go in I mean a way

951
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: that it's hard to look at these two weeks and

952
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: not feel like Trump will has a an sense of

953
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: urgency that was not there in the first term. I

954
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: think the first term is like, oh, wow, we won,

955
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: We'll do some good stuff. We're going to kind of

956
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: figure this out, you know, let's build, let's build the

957
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: boat as we as we sail it. And this time

958
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 1: around it is there's no time to lose. The country

959
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: is at stake. Let's start taking this thing in the

960
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: right direction.

961
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 4: And Buck, you've known me a long time, I've had

962
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 4: an aversion.

963
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: And almost fifteen years, will I've just we're kind of

964
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 1: old now, buddy, we're going back like twenty eleven, fourteen.

965
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 4: Years, I know, and we debate each other, and you

966
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 4: know some of my instincts. I've had an aversion throughout

967
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 4: my life to partisan politics, Like I just don't like

968
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 4: the idea of being on a political team. It's just

969
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 4: not like it just doesn't come east with me. I'm

970
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 4: laying this runway to tell you I've never been more

971
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 4: enthusiastic about the political state of America and what Trump

972
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 4: is calling the Golden Age that I am right now.

973
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 4: But there's a reason for that, Buck, It's I think

974
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 4: we are right now in this moment. It won't last forever,

975
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 4: but we are actually in an a political moment. This

976
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 4: is not left right Republican Democrat. We left that stupid

977
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 4: bipolar spectrum a long time ago. To your point, probably

978
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 4: starting in sixteen, like we really it doesn't mean anything

979
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 4: anymore and what Trump is. And again, I know it

980
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 4: can be sickmantic or sound like you're repeating talking points,

981
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 4: but this age of common sense thing, the revolution of

982
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 4: common sense is real. And so to celebrate this golden

983
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 4: age moment to me, isn't like waving your pomp poms

984
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 4: one particular political party. It's raising your pomp poms for

985
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 4: sanity and oh my god, yes, we understand the things

986
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 4: that make America unique and we're not ashamed of who

987
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 4: we are, and we're gonna honor merit. Like if you

988
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 4: guys want to make that left right thing, if you

989
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 4: want to make that a team thing, fine, that's fine

990
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 4: with me. But I'm gonna celebrate eternal values.

991
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 5: Here who is doing things and isn't insane In the

992
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 5: Democrat Party right now, you said you you don't want

993
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 5: to get but I do think it's interesting.

994
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 2: I'm sure you saw Stephen A.

995
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 5: Smith at like two percent support to be the Democrat

996
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 5: nominee u Kamala. We didn't even play this audio yet,

997
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 5: but yesterday the DNC said raise your hand if you

998
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 5: think think racism and misogyny, you know, contributed to Waikamala

999
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 5: lost like they're so far down the identity politics trail.

1000
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 5: Who on the Democrat side is like, Hey, this is crazy.

1001
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 5: I can't even find anybody. It's it's I mean, Fetterman, maybe,

1002
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 5: but he's not exactly an eloquent voice. Who do you

1003
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 5: see as like somebody who could lead the Democrat Party

1004
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 5: out of crazy town?

1005
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 4: No, no one except for who you mentioned Clay. By

1006
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 4: the way, Clay, you had to have been a little bummed.

1007
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 4: You're like, I was gonna your name was going to

1008
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 4: show up on some presidential polling poll before stephen A. Smith.

1009
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 5: And I actually, I actually said after steven A got two,

1010
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 5: I was like, I have to be able to get

1011
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 5: more than two on the Republican side. If steven A

1012
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 5: can get two on the Democrat side, they got to

1013
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 5: include me somewhere.

1014
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 4: The question is, Clay, who runs for governor? First? You

1015
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 4: for Tennessee or me for Texas. Raised it's Fetterman to

1016
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 4: answer your question. I mean, if there is an answer,

1017
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 4: the answer is probably there is not someone right now.

1018
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 4: But if there is, it's Fetterman. Because at least there

1019
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 4: is a sense that he is approaching things from some practical,

1020
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 4: common sense perspective. He lands wrong on a whole host

1021
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 4: of issues, but he's authentic the I mean.

1022
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: Wait, well, can we just step back for one second,

1023
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: and I'm not disagreeing with your feder and position at all.

1024
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: But the guy who had a severe stroke and was

1025
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 1: having trouble speaking, and that's just a matter of fact.

1026
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm not not mocking. He was very serious. But that

1027
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: guy is the most sensible Democrat on the scene now

1028
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: from that position of eternal values and centrism and things

1029
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: like that. I mean, he's the least crazy Democrat.

1030
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 4: So you've seen the jokes. Apparently the cure to leftism

1031
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 4: is having a stroke. Yeah, yeah, then you can see

1032
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,720
Speaker 4: the light, you know, the fun that the thing about.

1033
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 4: I mean, by the way, Buck, I want to interview him,

1034
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 4: like the invite is out, and I'm going to probably

1035
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 4: start with an apology, like I was pretty hard on him.

1036
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 4: I was more hard on the Democratic voter for saying

1037
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 4: I was.

1038
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: I was hard on him too. I've actually apologized, well

1039
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: just not not to interrupt you, sorry, but on the

1040
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: sho I've said, you know, I think I was too

1041
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: harsh on Fetterman because he actually has been pretty reasonable

1042
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: and pretty good on some issues, keep.

1043
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 4: Going and recovered and recovered more than I ever could

1044
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 4: have expected, and he's an inspiration on that front. It's

1045
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 4: more an indictment of the Democratic voter who is like

1046
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 4: stroke can't talk, no problem, vote him in. But the

1047
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 4: authenticity element is interesting because it's a huge appeal. I mean,

1048
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 4: Trump is nothing if not authentic, So Fetterman's authentic. But like,

1049
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 4: authenticity is a necessary but not sufficient bar you have

1050
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 4: to cross, Like then you got to be kind of

1051
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 4: likable after being real. And it's not that he's unlikable.

1052
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 4: It's like the whole hoodie and basketball shorts thing. Yeah,

1053
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 4: I appreciate that that's real, but that probably precludes you

1054
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 4: from being president, you know.

1055
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 5: I mean he showed up at the inauguration and a

1056
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 5: hoodie in shorts. I mean there's a difference between being authentic, likable,

1057
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 5: and real and also be not weird. Right, so the

1058
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 5: the hoodie and the shorts, everything moves into weird category

1059
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 5: for most people. Like if he showed up at the

1060
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 5: presidential debate in a hoodie in shorts, you know, I

1061
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 5: think a lot of people would say, Okay, fine, I

1062
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 5: get it, but this is weird.

1063
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 4: We can't we just can't run that out on the

1064
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 4: world stage. Sorry, John, Sorry, Yeah, I'm just gonna gonna

1065
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 4: have to pass.

1066
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 5: Like not wearing a tie or like wearing a sweater instead.

1067
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 5: Like maybe you can evolve and say, hey, you don't

1068
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 5: have to be in a suit and tie. I can

1069
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 5: understand that argument, but yeah, there is a limit there.

1070
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 5: Last question for you, by the way, Will, where were

1071
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 5: you when you heard Pete was getting the Department of

1072
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 5: Defense secretary nomination?

1073
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 2: And what was your first thought?

1074
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 4: Where was I Clay or was I Well, I think

1075
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 4: I was home in Dallas, and.

1076
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 2: I'm sure your phone blew up, like, oh it did?

1077
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 4: It did? It didn't come one hundred percent out of

1078
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 4: the blue for me, because I knew some things could

1079
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 4: possibly be in the works, and it happened pretty quickly.

1080
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 4: But if you date back to the summer when we

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Speaker 4: interviewed Trump, he said, right there on camera, you'd be great.

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Speaker 4: I'd love to have you Secretary of Defense. So I

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Speaker 4: mean I kind of knew that that was a potentiality,

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Speaker 4: even if it sounded, you know, unlikely at first, But

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Speaker 4: as it kind of slow rolled along, it's like, I

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Speaker 4: don't know the right analogy, but it is like maybe

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Speaker 4: if you're a Patriots fan, and you come back from

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Speaker 4: twenty eight three in the Super Bowl against the Atlanta

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Speaker 4: Falcons like that this pump or Vince Young fourth and

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Speaker 4: seven from the you know, fourth and goal from the

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Speaker 4: seven against USC You're just like, oh my god, it

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Speaker 4: freaking happens. Man, that's awesome.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Will, Will grats, like Buck said, we've known you

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Speaker 5: for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was gonna say, Man, everants to go check

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Speaker 1: out the show four o'clock. I know your ratings already huge, Will,

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Speaker 1: but we got a big radio audience, so they can

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Speaker 1: join they can join in the fray. Thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: Rats again.

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Speaker 4: I'll see you guys at four clear schedules. Thank you.

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Speaker 5: on Bingo. I'm telling you the answer is he's gonna

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Speaker 2: use my name Clay.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes all you can do is laugh.

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Speaker 8: And they do a lot of it with the Sunday

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