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Speaker 1: welcome to another edition of You Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I've joined the room

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Speaker 1: filled with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenhal.

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Speaker 1: What is up, boys, Hey Dan? We've made it. We've

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Speaker 1: made it. We've made it out of the wilderness. Goodbye.

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Speaker 1: Goodbye combine and mock drafts and O t A practice runs,

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Speaker 1: rundowns and training camp and hard knocks stories and preseason

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Speaker 1: games and even surprise retirements. All that gone, Mark, and

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Speaker 1: now plug in, baby, because we are locked and loaded

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Speaker 1: for another year. Like we've escaped something uh rugged into

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Speaker 1: something commer I mean, we've were walking right into like

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Speaker 1: seventy five armored weapons tanks fired at us, with news

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Speaker 1: coming from forty five different places where there was no news.

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Speaker 1: I'm separating what doesn't matter to kind of matters interesting

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Speaker 1: I'm just you're acting like we've down shifted the way

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Speaker 1: you opened your we have up shifted into utter chaos

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Speaker 1: and uh you know, well, I'll talk to you if

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Speaker 1: you are have any hopes of a personal relationship with

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Speaker 1: any of us, see you in March. We have traded

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Speaker 1: mind numbing holdouts for the possibility of two minutes drill magic.

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Speaker 1: Come on, come on, baby, like when we I said,

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Speaker 1: I'm on board, But I just I think you opened

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Speaker 1: great our next show is going to be. It's all nonsense.

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Speaker 1: It's better in the season. You know. Hey, we make

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Speaker 1: we make our money in the off season. That's when

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Speaker 1: it's tough. Hey, those guys they're a little loosera. They

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Speaker 1: have fun in the off season. It's just like crazy shows. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's all. That's all fine. We appreciate that our listenership

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Speaker 1: somehow doesn't go down. I mean, you guys are amazing,

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Speaker 1: uh in the off season. But let's be real, Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I agree with that either. I think

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Speaker 1: I like the off season shows too, of course I do.

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Speaker 1: Of course they do. We all enjoy our lives in

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Speaker 1: the office. Hey, if I get to sit in this

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Speaker 1: they pay me for this, and don't try to paint

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Speaker 1: me as someone who's like, oh, I don't. I'm not.

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Speaker 1: with some tonal thing that we're everything now is, you know,

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Speaker 1: pech keen. We're walking into utter chaos, utter chaos. Right

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Speaker 1: the time this show comes out, half the things we

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Speaker 1: discussed will have changed fundamentally. We better get to go

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Speaker 1: and then way to sell it, Like three hours from now,

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Speaker 1: what's gonna to tune in to next year's offseason episodes

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Speaker 1: This is getting awful, alright, Well, I hope everybody had

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Speaker 1: a nice weekend Labor Day weekend and uh whoa A

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Speaker 1: lot happened. So that's what today shows out. It is

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Speaker 1: our first this is real football. Week one begins Thursday Night,

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Speaker 1: Bears hosting the Packers at Soldier Field and will end

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Speaker 1: today's episode by previewing that game. Yes, we are in

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Speaker 1: does that mean? Did they not play a game today?

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Speaker 1: like to me the plot from Armageddon Bill. I didn't

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Speaker 1: So he's gonna make the season more fun for Texans fans.

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Speaker 1: So Seattle lucks into Jadevion Clowney because he refuses to

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Speaker 1: go to my head. Here's my thing. I think there's

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Speaker 1: three teams that come out of the gym up and

426
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Speaker 1: say we got this X y Z hey Jadeveon will

427
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Speaker 1: give you three different choices. But when we'll never know

428
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Speaker 1: because it doesn't exist yet. All right, let's move away

429
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 1: from that drama. Let us move on. Let's uh take

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Speaker 1: a look at the Kansas City Chiefs, the defending a

431
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Speaker 1: f C West champions, who made a move over the

432
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Speaker 1: weekend that oh, I'm sure Chris Wesley has thoughts about

433
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: this one too. Lashawn McCoy is surprise cut by the

434
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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills over the weekend. Well surprised to me, maybe

435
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: not you guys. Uh and very quickly and and you

436
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 1: read scoops up his former running back from their days

437
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Speaker 1: together in Philly and adds him to the backfield. The backfield,

438
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 1: by the way, got a little lighter when they moved

439
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Speaker 1: Carlos Hide to the Texans, who gets some depth after

440
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 1: that Lamar Miller injury, so incomes Shady McCoy. He got

441
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 1: paid pretty good money to West, which makes you think

442
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Speaker 1: that he's gonna have a role in that offense. Offense

443
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Speaker 1: with Damien Williams, who fantasy owners are very upset about this.

444
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 1: I'm sure that went all in on Damien. Anyway, your

445
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 1: thoughts was, I'm gonna imagine you don't think this is

446
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Speaker 1: a move that's gonna make a big impact in Kansas City,

447
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: and I imagine I'm going to disagree with you. Lets

448
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Speaker 1: see what you got. It's gonna tell us a lot

449
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 1: about situation in the NFL that he goes. Shady goes

450
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 1: from maybe the worst running back situation in two thousand

451
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Speaker 1: eighteen to the best running backs situation in the league

452
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Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen. Uh. Last year, the Bills, seven

453
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: of the offensive lineman they brought into the season and

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Speaker 1: on the practice squad are currently unemployed. This year they

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Speaker 1: kept ten. They lost Adrian Waddle to injury reserve, and

456
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: they traded two guys, so they might have had thirteen

457
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Speaker 1: NFL caliber offensive lineman, which is so different from last year.

458
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Speaker 1: So to me, I can I can go with Greg's

459
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: point that throw out the three point two yards per carry.

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00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 1: That's not reflectively who Lashawn McCoy is. I still thought

461
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: that he was outplayed by his backups at time last year.

462
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 1: He was a step slower. He's a guy who needs

463
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Speaker 1: to be one on one in space to make people miss.

464
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Speaker 1: And sometimes he's not giving himself that opportunity to go

465
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Speaker 1: one on one in space because he's going down easier

466
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Speaker 1: and he's not going for the big play as much.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have that speed anymore. So I think he

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Speaker 1: can be successful for the Chiefs because the spacing in

469
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 1: their offense is unlike anyone else. And Andy Reid has

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Speaker 1: proven for twenty years he knows how to use running

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Speaker 1: backs as well as anyone. They're deep, I mean, but

472
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Speaker 1: a week ago, two weeks ago, we're wondering if Darwin

473
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: Thompson was gonna steal carries away from Damien Williams. And

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Speaker 1: now you throw in Shady, and you know, if the

475
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: preseason does have a value, you can look at running

476
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Speaker 1: backs and see if they look fresh or not. And

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Speaker 1: I thought that Shady looked pretty fresh in the last

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and they probably would have kept him

479
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Speaker 1: if they didn't have the rookie blow up Devin So, yeah,

480
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: he was paid six million dollars, and Frank Gore looked

481
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Speaker 1: like Frank Gore does and Devin s Singletary look great,

482
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Speaker 1: So why why pay Shady McCoy six million dollars? It

483
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Speaker 1: didn't make sense for the Bills. He does make sense

484
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Speaker 1: for the Chiefs if he stays healthy. I thought he

485
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: looked good early in the season. He was really he

486
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 1: heard his hamstring in December didn't look good. Then if

487
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: he has a bad offensive line, he's got a freelance

488
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: too much. But in Kansas City, I think it can

489
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Speaker 1: make plays. And I'm a small person. I mean, like literally,

490
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 1: if you meet me, you'll know how small I am.

491
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Speaker 1: But I'm also small like emotionally that I enjoyed, I

492
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Speaker 1: did enjoy on some level. Every every fantasy person complaining like,

493
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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like this ruin, like this ruined my life,

494
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: and and uh like the Rotor World blurb essentially dismissed

495
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Speaker 1: McCoy's chances of even like being a factor just because

496
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: they had hyped up Damian Williams, Why you don't invest

497
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Speaker 1: too much in like half wows he players like players

498
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: that aren't. I just mean players that aren't as talented

499
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Speaker 1: as the players getting drafted behind them in fantasy. It's

500
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: like that's what happens to Damian Williams sometimes as they

501
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Speaker 1: bring another people. I trust Andy Reid just about more

502
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: than anyone else when it comes to looking at talent

503
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Speaker 1: and being able to know who to bring in, who

504
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: to cut ties with. Uh. He said, there are not

505
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Speaker 1: a lot of thirty one thirty one year old running

506
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Speaker 1: backs running around out there, but he still has the

507
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Speaker 1: great feet and the vision. And then McCoy he kept

508
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Speaker 1: it real, he kept the reel without really playing the

509
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Speaker 1: blame game. Maybe you guys read it otherwise, but he said,

510
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Speaker 1: I mean that's three Pro bowlers in the line, and

511
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Speaker 1: then we had guys that kind of fill them in

512
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Speaker 1: at the last minute, you know, which give him credit.

513
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: They did good to the best abilities, you know, But

514
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Speaker 1: a young quarterback to me, had a lot of corpse

515
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: coming in and out the games from injuries, different things

516
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: like that. We have part three the four quarterback starters,

517
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Speaker 1: you know. So that was a tough year mentally, physically

518
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,719
Speaker 1: was definitely tough. So he's saying, I'm not washed up.

519
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: I was just in a terrible situation and I just

520
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: think this is all trending a crank back the clock

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Speaker 1: scenario for McCoy. I always thought that thought if he

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Speaker 1: ever ended up in Indianapolis, which was speculated for a

523
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Speaker 1: while over the last year or so, that he would

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Speaker 1: have another would he would have one more nice run

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Speaker 1: in him. And I think that's what's gonna happen in Casey,

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Speaker 1: which is scary when you think about that Chief's offense.

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Speaker 1: What if he does crank back the clock west and

528
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Speaker 1: has a nice season, the Chiefs are gonna be impossible

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Speaker 1: to stop. I mean, they're gonna be impossible to stop

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Speaker 1: with or without two thousand fourteen Lashawn McCoy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I I don't expect that guy to show up for them,

532
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Speaker 1: but this offense is gonna be good no matter who's

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Speaker 1: running the They're also gonna have to be good because

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Speaker 1: of the defense. All right, let's keep moving, gentlemen. UM,

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Speaker 1: here's a story around the Cowboys that might be dated,

536
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Speaker 1: as you know when you listen to us, but we

537
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Speaker 1: want to plug in here on the Ezekiel Elliott Cowboys situation.

538
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Speaker 1: ESPN reported that the two sides are quote very close

539
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: to an agreement on a deal that would end the

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Speaker 1: star running backs hold out. There was a report out

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Speaker 1: earlier today Tuesday, that Zeke was on a plane and

542
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: headed back to Dallas, which certainly seems to be trending.

543
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: And it's all trending in the um direction of Elliott

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Speaker 1: being on the field for the season opener against the

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Speaker 1: Giants on Sunday. And uh also, like all Collins, one

546
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: of the important members of that offensive line, signs a

547
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: five year extension. So if I'm a Cowboys fan, I'm

548
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: feeling good right now because I was very I would

549
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: be very nervous before today, but now it looks like

550
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: things are all gonna line up. We'll find out for sure,

551
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: but the Cowboys are getting close with Zeke. I mean,

552
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: whether or not we are fully updated on the news.

553
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: When people listen to this, the distinct tone shift is

554
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Speaker 1: that it went from acrimonious and ugly to Zeke flying

555
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: from Cabo back to Dalla Us and things have taken

556
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 1: a big step in the right direction. And I just

557
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: look at the Dallas team though, you know they're talking

558
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 1: about six years ninety million, which you know, if he's

559
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: a still great that's a report. If he's still a

560
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: great player four years now, that looks like a great contract,

561
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: probably for the Cowboys to some degree. But this is

562
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: not to Marco Murray anymore, where maybe you use them

563
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: for another season or two and then decide to move on.

564
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Speaker 1: You're now attached to him at least four more than

565
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Speaker 1: you know a year or two, and you have to

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Speaker 1: find a way to managees carries to some degree. And

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Speaker 1: I think the Tony Pollard, the rise of Tony Pollard

568
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: is a very positive step for Dallas as well. He's

569
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Speaker 1: the best player on the team. I think that's why

570
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna get paid. And I think we should probably

571
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: start thinking about holdouts a little bit differently. If nobody's

572
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: gonna play their startings and starters in the preseason anyway,

573
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: why does it matter if these guys it's all of camp.

574
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: This is the week to get all the stunt. So

575
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: many players just miss all of camp. They show up

576
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Speaker 1: for a week one. It almost seemed like the Cowboys

577
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: were trolling like their fans at some point, like keep

578
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: signing these other players other than but these two deals

579
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Speaker 1: are worth mentioning just that Jalen Smith and Lao Collins,

580
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: those are very team friendly deals. I mean, they got

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Speaker 1: a starting right tackle for ten million dollars a year

582
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Speaker 1: for the next five years. I mean, look at these numbers. Two,

583
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be like four point two million next year

584
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: and then nine million in two thousand and so that's

585
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: that's a good job by their front office. In other

586
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Speaker 1: running back holdout news, Melvin Gordon has been given permission

587
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Speaker 1: to seek a trade from the Chargers. L A has

588
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: given him that opportunity. We'll see if that leads to anything.

589
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: Rap she'd had the report on that the running back

590
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: has been away from the team all summer as he

591
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Speaker 1: seeks an extension worth more than ten million per year.

592
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Speaker 1: Uh fifth year running backs set to make five and

593
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: a half million in twenty nineteen. We you know, we've

594
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Speaker 1: been talking about this since is the very beginning that

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00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: this didn't feel like a great set up for Melvin

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Speaker 1: Gordon in terms of negotiations and the Chargers, they're just

597
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: seemed that they continue to roll out like, hey, do

598
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: whatever you want, buddy, We're fine, We're gonna keep rolling.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think this ends with Melvin Gordon signing

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00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: a beefy contract extension with the Chargers anyway. Well, they

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Speaker 1: they essentially an ounce I mean they told Melvin Gordon

602
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Speaker 1: they're not gonna negotiate his contract anymore, which is a

603
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: pretty big hammer drop, uh to let out there that

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Speaker 1: not only are you know, we're not giving you the

605
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: money we want, let's we're not even gonna talk because

606
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: it's obviously not gonna happen, and go ahead, try to

607
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: get your terms with another team. We don't think you

608
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: can do it. It's not a great year to be

609
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Speaker 1: a running back trying to force a trade somewhere else,

610
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: because if you look at the running back rooms around

611
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Speaker 1: around the Leak, it's kind of like quarterback. Most teams

612
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Speaker 1: feel pretty good about where they're at. And for everyone

613
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: saying that the clowney situation is a new day for

614
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: players to simply, you know, out of complete self interest

615
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Speaker 1: and self determination, basically outline your own career and hold

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Speaker 1: out till you get what you want. This is the

617
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Speaker 1: other side of the coin because if they don't need you,

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Speaker 1: you suddenly what what who's gonna bring? Maybe there's an

619
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Speaker 1: injury in week one and someone needs Melvin Gordon and

620
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Speaker 1: some sort of trade is outlined. It's not because this

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Speaker 1: kind of money that he wants is going to be

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Speaker 1: coming next it's not like he's making the minimum. This

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Speaker 1: is he's getting over five million this year, right, which

624
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Speaker 1: is I think it's more than half of the money

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Speaker 1: that he made in the first four years combined, which

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Speaker 1: you would think would be rather significant that he's gonna

627
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: want that money sooner than later. Erica, can you get

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Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon on the phone? I think maybe we should

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Speaker 1: try to talk to him. It would be hoof that

630
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: we did. We have him on the show once. We

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Speaker 1: may have. Doesn't he have to be back by week ten? Anyway?

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Speaker 1: To get his he will have to show up at

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00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: He's in a different situation than Leban was last year.

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Speaker 1: He has to show up to a crew. I think

635
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: Clowney and Kirk Cousins pointed out that players under a

636
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: franchise tag do have a little bit of power, you know,

637
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Speaker 1: if you want to look at the player of empowerment

638
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: at least trickling into the NFL compared to the NBA.

639
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: Guys on tags can do that. And I also think

640
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: that that the whole tag situation I just smell is

641
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: gonna change in some way with the next bargain. He's

642
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: in that Uber trying to find that one uber driver

643
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: of that that didn't know who he was. Now maybe

644
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: it's all about maybe that's where it all started, like

645
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: he was upset that he wasn't recognized, and now that's

646
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: just all dictating his franchise, his contract demands. Let's move on.

647
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: The Colts in a post Andrew luck world are doing

648
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: some business at the quarterback position. Uh. They hand Jacoby Brissette,

649
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: the team's new starting quarterback, a new They rip up

650
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: his old deal, give him a two year, thirty million

651
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: dollar contract. Uh. Brissette was entering the fourth and final

652
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: year of his rookie contract and was set to earn

653
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: two million in nineteen. Now he's under contract for the

654
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: next two years. And then they make a decision to

655
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: add a new backup to the room, and they get

656
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer, who couldn't couldn't hold on with the Pats,

657
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: but that doesn't stop him from getting a three or

658
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: twelve million dollar deal with the Colts UH to be

659
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: their number two thirty three years old. He's bounced all

660
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: over the place, Hoyer, and that is pretty good money

661
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: for both gentlemen. I want to say, Greg, I'm gonna

662
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get to my one of my props

663
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: which doesn't look like it's a good position right now.

664
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Speaker 1: But does it feel it all to you that the cults,

665
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: in this time of great trauma around the organization that

666
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: are trying, they're they're almost trying to pay their way

667
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: back to some type of quarterback tranquility after the bombshell

668
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: of Angel Luxe retirement. I was surprised by the amount

669
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: that Brissette got. It's a very on on some level,

670
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: laudable for the Colts to not just try to have

671
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: him play under that salary. Then again, they get something

672
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: out of it too, which is that if he is good,

673
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: it's under contract next year at a very low salary.

674
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: So it seems it seemed like bad if he's bad,

675
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: they I was just looking for it. They haven't really

676
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: shown the details of how the money's spread out. Twenty

677
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: millions guaranteed. If I had to guess, you know, they

678
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: can get out of it. Basically, I mean, they'll they'll

679
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: eat a little bit of cap a little bit of

680
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: cap space if he's bad. And they were still able

681
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: to get nick fools after they made the mistake of

682
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: paying bad. They have fifty million dollars. They have more

683
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: cap space than just about anyone so they can just

684
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: eat it. It was telling to me that Hoyer got

685
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: nine million dollars guaranteed, which is a lot. Was surprising

686
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: when I think it was to keep him away from

687
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: the Patriots. So the Patriots wanted to bring him back.

688
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: He didn't necessary always up in everybody's head. Well, they

689
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: really did want to bring him back. And and I

690
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: think for him to move his family and decide to

691
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: do that, Hey, I'm not going to turn down that

692
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: this kind of man, and Dan, I wouldn't. I wouldn't

693
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: be too worried about your prop bet yet. And you

694
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: mentioned what the Chad Kelly. There was a factor here

695
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: because you your thing was that Chad Kelly would see

696
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: was it for me? Just start starts? It starts, okay,

697
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: starts however, four starts. But we have a listener because

698
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: our listeners are plugged in. A listener tweeted to us

699
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: under the handle Dusty Bottoms, and he said, here are

700
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: his words. I'm going to pull back the veil for

701
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: you guys. With Chad Kelly and the Cults job. Now

702
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: this is pre Brian Hoyer, but still my childhood teammate

703
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: is now the offensive coordinator for the Colts Nick Sirianni,

704
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: and as a child, as a young football player, he

705
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: had posters of Jim Kelly all over the place. He

706
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: is a huge Jim Kelly fan. And I'm going to

707
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: read from that that there is something that's gonna happen here.

708
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: He is not out on Chat. He is not out

709
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: on our boy Chad Kelly, who's Kelly? And I'm not

710
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: given up on Dance Prett, who in this room honestly

711
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: believes Brian Hoyer is a better quarterback than Swag Kelly.

712
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: I don't, I do not. You know, Swag still on

713
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: the roster, not officially because he's suspended, but yeah, he'll

714
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: be their third quarter well he returned and be their

715
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: third carter. Yes, I believe. I think there is some

716
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: reasonable concern about what Chad Kelly gets up to in

717
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: his time off, and so you've got the very milk

718
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 1: toast Brian Hoyer to sort of just plug in. I'm

719
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: totally screwed because of the money involved here, because how

720
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: is I supposed to know the culture gonna panic and

721
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: pay Jacoby Brissette like he's an established starting quarterback and

722
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: then turn around and give out the best backup quarterback

723
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: money in the league just about in the right now.

724
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: On the show, they might bring in a back you did,

725
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: and that's fine, and I'm proud of you for that.

726
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, like, the only way now that

727
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: I have any shot, and I won't do it is

728
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: if one of these guys gets injured and then the

729
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: other guy stinks that's the only shot I get a

730
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: four star. Yeah, but this could be your episode of

731
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: a football life. It starts, it's such bleak territory, but

732
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: you always had some idea of what would happen, right,

733
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 1: Like all of us, almost all of our props will

734
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: lose three sandwiches on but we won't remember like my

735
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook one, but we'll remember well that that was.

736
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: That was the other thing I was gonna say. It's

737
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: kind of like when you're in Vegas and you're playing

738
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 1: blackjack with your buddies and you get you get beat.

739
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: After you play about an hour, you have a great time,

740
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: you end up down about a hundred bucks, and then

741
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: you say to yourself, oh, well, you know that you

742
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: basically paid to have fun with your friends sitting at

743
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: the table. It's already paid for the sandwiches because we

744
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: had a nice conversation about swag. That's fine. Everything else

745
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: is just icing on top. Sometimes legend legends are burnished

746
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 1: by what could have been. I mean, come on, bo Jackson.

747
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 1: People love him because what could have been are because

748
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: because of what he actually did. Absolutely, moving on, Trent

749
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: Williams another hold out. He is not a lost cause

750
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: in Washington. The former Redskin, former Redskins defensive D'Angelo Hall,

751
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: an ex teammate of Williams cornerback. Uh what did I

752
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,959
Speaker 1: say defensive end, defensive back? I was meant to say. Uh,

753
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: ex teammate of Williams said on the Hail to the

754
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: podcast on the Athletic that Williams could return quote sooner

755
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: rather than later. Hall, who had said in the past

756
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: there was zero chance Williams shows up, so that the

757
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: left tackle unlikely to sit out the entire season because

758
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: he won't want to lose out once again on that

759
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: a crude season towards free agency. Uh So the question

760
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: now becomes whether or not that report date, if it happens,

761
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: Mark is far off in the distance or imminent. We

762
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: don't know something the track Hall mentioned week too, and

763
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: so I would assume that you know he's attached to

764
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: a gigantic, flaming car going off a cliff. So I

765
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: don't know what his rush to come back is other

766
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: than obviously, you know, personal financial, game money obviously. But

767
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: to me, I this this is the team that should

768
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: have been open to trading one of their valuable assets

769
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 1: for a lot of picks to plan for the future,

770
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: and they've been so door closed on this, at least

771
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: in public, to the even the concept of someone coming

772
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: and courting them for a big pick swap. I would

773
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: have done it in a second if I were But

774
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: their front office is probably the worst in the league.

775
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien Rifley getting killed for how he handled Clowney.

776
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: But the Redskins a team clearly building for the future.

777
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: What do you what need do you have for a

778
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: thirty something left tackle who has huge value on the

779
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: open market. Well, it depends what they would get. So

780
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: there is a report which everyone denied, that the Patriots

781
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: offered a first round pick for him two weeks ago.

782
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: I'd rather have Trent Williams. He's thirty one. That's about

783
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: the same age that Dwayne Brown was when the Texans traded.

784
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you might still get three years of quality

785
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: left tackle play. I don't know that. I mean, I

786
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: don't want New England's first round pick as much as

787
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 1: i'd want someone else's. You're giving that analysis, Greg based

788
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: on the knowledge that he's going to report sooner rather

789
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: than later. Right, I didn't know that. Then it should

790
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: be noted that um and a lot of people don't

791
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: know this that the Patriots first round pick this year

792
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: is gonna be number six. So well, that's that. That

793
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: adds some where the eye would win sandwiches from that.

794
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: You were saying the Patriots are gonna have the number

795
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: six overall picks. Just think about it. If you're the

796
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 1: Dolphins and all it takes is one to Shaun Watson

797
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: injury to maybe have a top ten pick, two top

798
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: ten ten picks from the Texans, that's true. We didn't

799
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: even mention from the old Dolphins angle enjoy being protected

800
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: by Julian Davenport all season. Josh Rosen, I know a lot.

801
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 1: He's not the most and sees the field this year.

802
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't it, Well, of course, get killed. There is

803
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: this one little amazing nugget that came out of it.

804
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: Not to this was one second, but ESPN did a

805
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: thing where they ran twenty thousand simulations on the upcoming season,

806
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: and they randomly picked simulation one thousand, seven hundred and

807
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: twenty one to unfurl this long, amazing article, the kind

808
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: of thing that any football nerd would like to talked about.

809
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: Week to week results and where teams wounded up. The

810
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: Jets finished date and Nate. The Browns made the playoffs,

811
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: won the division after some ups and downs, and the

812
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: Dolphins opened three and one. Week two, they sand blast

813
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: the Patriots. This is with no Laramie Tounsil, with no

814
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 1: Kenny Stills. They are six and two at the midpoint

815
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: and playing for the division title against the Patriots in

816
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: the final week of the season. And in this well,

817
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: hold on before you scoff at it. Every in every

818
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: other team that you look at, how they did it

819
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: came out kind of reasonable. They just they viewed the

820
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: Dolphins this simulation. It's not a person as doing much

821
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: better than people thought. And Josh Rosen didn't even play

822
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: a meaningful snap because Fitzpatrick carried them from wire to wire.

823
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: It may be buggy, but I think, I think, I

824
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: think we can except that the NFL is unpredictable enough,

825
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: we can for the Dolphins to have a winning record.

826
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,479
Speaker 1: I mean crazy things. Crazier things happen all the time.

827
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: I agree with, and yet we always act so confident.

828
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: When's the last time at the worst roster in the

829
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,959
Speaker 1: league had a winning record? Uh? I mean them having

830
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: a winning record, then they ultimately would prove they didn't

831
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: have It's an anomaly. Alright, good talk, gentlemen, It's time

832
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: for a little eight o'clock to light. Jack signed Miles

833
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: Jack to a four year, fifty seven million dollar extension.

834
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: Both him and Jalen Smith West get paid. That is cool.

835
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: That's the point I was gonna make that they were

836
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 1: drafted right around each other in the same draft. Both

837
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: had questions about how they would do in the future.

838
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: That's why they didn't go in the first round, and

839
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: now both made it to their second contracts. One time

840
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: hard knocks sweetheart Giovanni Bernard gets a two year extension

841
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: with the Cincinnati Bengals to pair with Joe Mix and

842
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 1: Mark Cecil. You like that one to punch? I'm fine

843
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: with it. I'm you know. Juvenleb was someone they talked

844
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: about is maybe not making them this year or not

845
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 1: being in their long term plans. They lost Rodney Anderson

846
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: was ever but good for him, but hopefully money good report.

847
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: Steelers extend quarterback Joe Hayden on a two million dollar

848
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: deal including seventeen million signing bonus. Thirty years old. Uh, Gregg,

849
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Speaker 1: he's had a great career. Always unclear why Browns wanted

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Speaker 1: to get rid of Joe Hayden so much. Dude too,

851
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: that's a good point. He set two clips a hundred

852
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Speaker 1: million and career earnings in Greggy. Seahawks cut then re

853
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: signed Geno Smith, who beats out Packston Lynch for the job.

854
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Speaker 1: The Seahawks doing the dirty, not giving that guaranteed veteran money.

855
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: I see all your tweets so celebrating when he got cut.

856
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 1: Wait till the end of the weekend before spiking the football.

857
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: It's back. That's fair. You gotta tell you had a

858
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Speaker 1: positive Geno tweet if you recall, it's true, there was

859
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Speaker 1: a lot of There was a lot of tweets before

860
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Speaker 1: you come after us on Twitter and getting our mentions.

861
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: Know the business side of the game, that's the less uh.

862
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: In other news, the Falcons bring back long time kicker

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00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: Matt Bryan West. I was hoping they were gonna keep

864
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: it quiet. He'd stay on that golf course and go

865
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: to the Jets. But he's going back to the Falcons.

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00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: Unless you have someone better at your fingertips, do not

867
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: get rid of your veteran kicker. Yeah, this guy was

868
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: never bad, Matt Bryan. Uh, he had a terrible summer

869
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: and now he gone. The Vikings signed Josh doson days

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00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: after cutting with Con Treadwell. So two first round bus

871
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: picked right around each other in the first round. Once

872
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: upon a time, is that matter? Mark? But it was

873
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: signed for the league minimum, so I guess it's a

874
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: bit of a save face. Maybe we just picked the

875
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: wrong guy and the Redskins didn't, and we'll figure it out.

876
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: But it seems a good footnote at best Redskins are

877
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: paying most of his salary this year. Uh. Eddie p

878
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: Eddie Piniero wins the Bears kicking job for a week.

879
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: I mean, what a drama. He he shakes the extra

880
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: point west about thirty feet to the left. Uh in

881
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: his final preseason outing, but still gets the job. But

882
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: it's made clear by Matt Maggy. He wins the job

883
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: Thursday night. What a world, What a life to have?

884
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: What where's their headquarters? Bourbon A. Stacy Dale's reporting for

885
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: bourbon A says, they really do believe they found their guy.

886
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: They wanted a young guy now and I talk him up.

887
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 1: They said he's got the right demeanor, the leg talent,

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00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: and the team has embraced him. I think that latter

889
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: part is important coming off what they're coming off. In

890
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: preseason plays, eight of nine on field goal attempts hit

891
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: a fifty eight yard or that got him a job,

892
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: even though that horrible p A t M. Miss Greg.

893
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: The Broncos at x Rams practice squatter Brandon Allen is

894
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: their number two quarterback. John Elway knows QBS. Hey, John

895
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: Elway doesn't just mess up the starting quarterback situation anymore.

896
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: He's got to pick up someone's back, someone off Waivers

897
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: for his backup. How could he possibly be so bad

898
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: at understanding quarterback talent a man that was one of

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00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: the greatest to ever play the position. Well, they say,

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00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: they say, those that can't to teach, those that can't teach,

901
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: do he did do? He already did it, and now

902
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: he can't put the rest of its kid I R updates.

903
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: Derek McKinnon of the Niners is a setback with his knee.

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Speaker 1: He goes to I R. The Patriots seemed to be

905
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: cursed with their first rounders to kill Harry. He goes

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00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: to I R. E Quan st. Brown and the Packers.

907
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: I R. Nathan Peterman hard knocks hero has an elbow issue.

908
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: He goes to I R. And Graham Gano the Panther's kicker.

909
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 1: He has an issue that didn't get better. He also

910
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: goes I, I don't know boomerang or not. Some of

911
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: the ones that waited till the weekend, like Nikkil Harry respect,

912
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 1: we'll be back. I think he's the only one. Alright, guys,

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Speaker 1: put on your college shirts, put on your Fahrenheit cologne.

914
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: Spike up that hair. I used to wear Fahrenheychkling. He

915
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: used to love it, loved it. Fahrenheit was the nineties

916
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: jam it was what about trick car? Used the car

917
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: give me that Fahrenheit all day that I try to

918
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: take Fahrenheit into the next decade. And then I brought

919
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: it back. I tried to my wife, said no, this,

920
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: this this smells like high school. Right, find me find

921
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: me like anyone that's actually asking someone. I guess I

922
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 1: never really I never worked alone, just the Rosenthal is anyway,

923
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: as I say, use the dracuar, use the Fahrenheit, use

924
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: the natural scent. No all musk on Rosenthal, no deodoran

925
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: even I stepped behind the velvet rope or going to

926
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: the kicker club. The Jets have changed kickers, acquiring I

927
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: don't even know how to say his name, so it's

928
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: bad bet carre vet Vic all right on Waivers. In

929
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings they released Taylor Burdelette, who got the

930
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: job after Chandler Cannazero, a propably retired Burnett was a disaster,

931
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: might be Berne Lay, doesn't matter. Ved Vic, of course,

932
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: was so in demand that the Vikings gave up a

933
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: fifth round pick to the Ravens to get him, and

934
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: then he stunk out the joint once he got to Minnesota.

935
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 1: The Jets, who were in the mix for a trade

936
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: before the Vikings got him, they scoop him up off Waivers,

937
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: So now he becomes the latest Jets attempt to find stability,

938
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: which they wouldn't even have to worry about if they

939
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: just paid Jason Myers, who now kicks for the Seahawks.

940
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: Come on, guys, and when you can, when you can

941
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: sign a guy who just went one for four in

942
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: the preseason with no experience in the regular season kick

943
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: what could go wrong? And Chris Berman would have to

944
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 1: call him carry a carry a laison ved vick Uh

945
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: And finally in the news and now another edition of

946
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 1: keeping up Blowing. You know, I was worried that we'd

947
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: never get to do one of these again, and I

948
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: gotta be honest, told this the mark before that. It

949
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: took quite a Google search to find the latest news

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00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: on Maurice's bow ringer. Uh, the German born wide receiver

951
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: turn tight end who's trying to make it in the

952
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: NFL after being the first international player to get drafted.

953
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: Is that correct? Was that the hook back of the day,

954
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: what's been a walk? Came through the International player program.

955
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna speak because you've already angered Henry by

956
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: not nailing that down. Anyway. The Bengal sign nine players

957
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: to the practice squad on Sunday and one of them

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00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: is Mobo and a reminder that an NFL practice squad

959
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: may include up to ten players. Of the Bengals have

960
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: up to eleven with Mobo, who is an International Player

961
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Speaker 1: Pathway Program participant and it's eligible to be added as

962
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: the eleventh practice squad player. So this is this is

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00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: my one takeaway, and you guys can jump in with

964
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 1: some of your own. Uh, we've reached the time. We've

965
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: been very patient with Mobo for a couple of years now.

966
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: To make the leap, if you will, he's got to

967
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: get at of this pathway program and get at least

968
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: on legit like practice squad best guy available, get out

969
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 1: of the pathway program and start making a charge. Yeah

970
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: for just for a for a dose. So how do

971
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 1: you know the difference between pathway program and just regular practice.

972
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: He's designated as that, right, But why wouldn't he use

973
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: that spot. It's like a it's a free style, I know.

974
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: But what we want is for him personally. I think

975
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: he needs to make a roster because he can make

976
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: the ten and then they can add another pathway guy.

977
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: But Mobio won't be connected here is he skating by

978
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: on a technicality? Like you gotta start earning things here.

979
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: Here's what he did. He was the first international or

980
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: the first European player that didn't play in college. So

981
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: he came up like through learning the game elsewhere. And hey,

982
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of successes f a Obada made

983
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,240
Speaker 1: the Panthers one once again. And and uh Christian Wade,

984
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: it has that pathway program for the Bills. So they're coming.

985
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: But Mobio, you're right as the first one through the door.

986
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 1: A lot of pressna get you're paying for his housing,

987
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: You're paying for his you know, three war five meals

988
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: a day. I mean, he has a job. Come on,

989
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: let's let's start to do something. He has a job,

990
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: I mean makes income. I mean he's forty three years old.

991
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: It's time to make that charge. Why you do that?

992
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: And that was another addition of keeping up. All right,

993
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: let's close by talking about the first game of the

994
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: NFL season. How about that Mark, Come on, funk up.

995
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 1: This is exciting, happy, happy, exciting. The Thursday night football opener,

996
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: which also begins the one anniversary celebration of football. So

997
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: what do they do. They push the defending champions, the Patriots,

998
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: to Sunday night where they'll face the Steelers, and they

999
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 1: opened up the schedule for Bears versus Packers at Soldier Field,

1000
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 1: one of the best rivalries in football. I'm sure fans

1001
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: of those teams will say this is the best rivalry

1002
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: in football. Certainly the oldest, But there's so many storylines

1003
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: greg here, which is what makes the first game of

1004
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: the season so great because you get to really dissect

1005
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,959
Speaker 1: it and see some actual results. So Matt Lafleur and

1006
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, as we talked about from the news drop

1007
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: earlier today, the Bears without Faggio and with Mitch Drabinsky

1008
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: and the idea of taking the next leave there, how

1009
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: does the kicker do so much stuff? To break down?

1010
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: What are you looking at for Thursday night football this year?

1011
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: This week? It's amazing how the first test for Matt

1012
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: Lafleur and Aaron Rodgers against the best defense in league.

1013
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: But on the other side, we have data. We have

1014
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: a matchup of Matt Naggy's offense going up against Mike

1015
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: Petton and he did. Mike Petton did a great job

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00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: in Week one a year ago. Trabisky had four yards

1017
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: for attempting that game. Bears did a better job, but

1018
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: not great offensively. The second time they played. I am

1019
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: intrigued to see how Mike Patton with the six defensive

1020
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Speaker 1: six defensive backs, uh, gets a little creative and tries

1021
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: to really shake things up against Trabisky and I I

1022
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: think this could be a defensive game because of it.

1023
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: I like to see these Week one games, like you

1024
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 1: think differently about a team just because of who arrives

1025
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: that you didn't expect to arrive. And I I don't know,

1026
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: what if Rashaan Garry is one of those guys who's

1027
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: just dynamite right off the bat, or Darnell Savage for

1028
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 1: the Packers, the other guy they drafted in the first round,

1029
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: or what if you know, Trabiski looks like a totally

1030
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: new quarterback this year, David Montgomery looks like a stud.

1031
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: I mean, there's it's just those How are we going

1032
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: to think differently about these teams? And I'm with um,

1033
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur, shut up about the autumn. Just shut up,

1034
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: stop asking about them. Let's play football and enough with

1035
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: your narratives. The one, the one thing that comes out

1036
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Speaker 1: of the preseason of today where you don't see Aaron

1037
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 1: Rodgers for even one second, the entire time you don't

1038
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: see Aaron Jones, is that I think it amps up

1039
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,439
Speaker 1: the excitement for Week one because these guys are pulled

1040
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: out from behind the curtain for the first time since

1041
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: last winner. And you know, these these openings we were

1042
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: in London when this Bear's Packers game went down last year.

1043
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: A lot is whether or not it's right. It's probably wrong.

1044
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: We learn a lot and talk a lot about what

1045
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: happens in that Week one game. And I thought last

1046
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 1: year what the one of the narratives was was Mr Robiski,

1047
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: as Greg pointed out, kept in check by Mike Petton,

1048
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: but couldn't get it done at the end when he

1049
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: had to try a chance to seal that win with

1050
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: a winning drive. And on the flip side, you've got

1051
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Speaker 1: Chuck Pagano taking over for Fongio, and if if the

1052
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 1: Bears struggle on defense, or if there's a market difference

1053
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: in this game and going forward, Chuck Pagano is going

1054
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: to be in for one of those coordinator seasons where

1055
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: they're pointing at you every week for not doing what

1056
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: happened last year. And odds are they're not gonna be

1057
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: last year's defense for a variety of reasons. What is

1058
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: looking clean. I'm feeling a big year for Pegana. He

1059
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: looked for the years like a younger man. It's like

1060
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: when Greg Williams showed up with the Titans after the

1061
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: bounty gate and all of a sudden stability goatee and

1062
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: like wavy brown hair. And I was like, wait, and

1063
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,919
Speaker 1: what's going on? That's hime machine, Sir West. I get

1064
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: what you're saying. No more narratives. I only hear about

1065
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 1: it anymore. But guess what if the Packers struggle against

1066
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 1: the very Good Bears defense on Thursday and Aaron Rodgers,

1067
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: who you know, you could He's one of those guys

1068
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: where you could read his face and he could. They'll

1069
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: have the camera of all time at all times. If

1070
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: he's showing frustration. If we catch embarking at somebody at

1071
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: some point and they lose twenty four to ten on Thursday,

1072
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: it's only gonna get amplified. That's part of the drama

1073
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: and what makes us such an intriguing situation where this

1074
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: is what you wanted, Aaron Rodgers, You wanted McCarthy out

1075
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: of there, you wanted fresh blood. Well let's see, can

1076
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: you actually play with fresh fresh blood? I think that

1077
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: as well, said Dan, And it's absolutely true. My exhaustion

1078
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: level with this is specifically about reporters asking stuff about

1079
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: an audible that they have no idea what they're what

1080
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: they're talking. Well, yes you are in the media. So

1081
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: it's gonna be part of your job to beat that

1082
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: drum as well, whether or not you feel that it

1083
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 1: is ethical. And we know Week one could be misleading.

1084
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bears deep fence gave up three touchdowns

1085
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: the Aaron Rodgers in the fourth quarter, and that wasn't

1086
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: really indicative of the type of season they would have,

1087
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: although they did, you know, kind of give up that

1088
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: end of the game to the Eagles in the playoffs,

1089
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: Like we don't. We're not gonna learn that much in

1090
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: Week one. But I am curious just how much the Packers,

1091
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: like are gonna lean on the running because just because

1092
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: the flour was so run heavy in Tennessee and Mike

1093
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: McCarthy was the total opposite in Green Bay in terms

1094
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: of running on early downs, Just what kind of Packers

1095
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: offense is he gonna roll with early? Can I mention

1096
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: one little bit of history, So when they first met

1097
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: these two teams back on November one, when it was

1098
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: not the Bears but the Chicago Staley's, according to a

1099
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:45,479
Speaker 1: News Pope article, whaling whaling on the Packers twenty to nothing.

1100
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: That's how this rivalry began. And a little nugget on

1101
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,919
Speaker 1: how the Green Bay Press Gazette, to your point about

1102
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: media West harping on annoying things, this is how they

1103
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: wrote that game the Packers again. They lost twenty to nothing,

1104
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: were beaten but not disgraced. Every man on the team

1105
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: played great football. Okay, they were there in the battling

1106
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: every minute, and when the final whistle blew, there was

1107
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 1: plenty of glory in the defeat. Sounds a lot like

1108
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: an article from today or a talk show, right, but

1109
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: then listen to this. This is some amazing writing from

1110
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: an early on football writer. The guy is long gone

1111
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 1: now he'd be a hundred something years old. Stinchcomb, Sternaman,

1112
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: and Huffin are quite some footballers that got off fast

1113
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: and run like deer. Stinchcomb was the main thorn in

1114
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: the Packer's side. His dash for a touchdown early in

1115
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: the second quarter was a sensational piece of footballing that

1116
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: actually kind of sounds a little I love the way

1117
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: you go. You go look up some of the early

1118
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: reports from this totally different type of Stele. But they

1119
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: talked about how the people in Chicago were utterly one

1120
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: over by the fan, said the Chicago football fans had

1121
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: one into their hearts the Packers for their gritty back

1122
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: that that this entire Chicago crowd is simply left as

1123
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: Packers fans because of what they witnessed in a twenty

1124
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: to nothing Packers lost feels a little convoluted to me.

1125
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: Fair enough, they were probably only like seven people there.

1126
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: There's no one to call them. Also noted that the

1127
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: Green Bay's band, which had come down to Chicago, also

1128
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: helped win over the entire Packers operation for again Chicago's

1129
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: fan base. Uh, let's pick this game. Mark Packers twenty

1130
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: Bears seventeen in overtime. I'll go the other way Bears twenty,

1131
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: Packers seventeen in overtoon. Okay, I part of me feels

1132
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: like it's inevitable that it's gonna come down to a

1133
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: forty three yard field goal attempt by poor Eddie Piniero.

1134
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: But then the part that I'm gonna actually ride with

1135
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,919
Speaker 1: is that there will be some bumps in the road

1136
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: early on with Rogers and this offense, and the Bears

1137
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: at home in prime time in the earliest game of

1138
00:57:55,720 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: the season. Will take advantage of that. Bears. I have

1139
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: the Packers making the playoffs and the Bears not. So

1140
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: what better way to kind of change that scenario from

1141
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: a year ago than get a road win in the

1142
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,439
Speaker 1: division that counts. They always say that that counts double

1143
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: and then not really, it's like one and a half. Yeah,

1144
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: I get what you're talking to. Anybody want to lock

1145
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: it up? No? Definitely not wow, only because there's some

1146
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: situation you forgot about that football the locks? All right?

1147
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: Who wants to go for a lock? And then we're

1148
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: all hanging out on Thursday night and one of us is, oh,

1149
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: when one in the locks? And it's not even Friday yet.

1150
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: I forget that nonsense. What I've seen you, I've seen

1151
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: you at any times mark when the double doin happened,

1152
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: because I think you had picked against I don't know

1153
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: whatever it would have been. You had picked the Eagles

1154
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: to win or to lose. When the double doin happened,

1155
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: there was so much fury in you in the newsroom

1156
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: that it was you were turning red. I don't want

1157
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: to see that from you in this situation. You don't

1158
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: want to have a lock on. I want you to

1159
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: get out, i'd pour Mitchell Trobiski on the podcast later,

1160
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: Well he deserved it. I have won two straight lock

1161
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: season titles. So I don't really, I'm kind of you know, hand,

1162
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: you know, foot off the gas this time. I'll let

1163
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: you when you get you co won the first one.

1164
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: I have a trophy. I didn't lose it. All right,

1165
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: There you go. Next time you hear from us, we'll

1166
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: be Thursday. Show'll go up late Thursday night early Friday morning,

1167
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: and we'll have a recap of the Bears versus Packers

1168
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: season opener, and then yes, we'll dig into every game

1169
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: to be played on Sunday and Monday, a preview of

1170
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: all the week one action. How exciting is that? Um?

1171
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: Before we go, some plugs plugs. Well, I didn't know

1172
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:45,479
Speaker 1: this was a whole separate segment of Greg. I asked

1173
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: for a plug something NFL related. You responded with, j

1174
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: r VP is back. Yeah, we're taping Tuesday night comes out.

1175
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: Wasn't that you didn't say NFL related. You had, I

1176
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: would have said, I'm writing the game picks this this week,

1177
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: So I gotta come up with a real score for

1178
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: that Packers Bears game. Didn't you just give us one?

1179
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: Or you didn't? It could change plug into NFL dot

1180
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: com Rosenthal for that. Uh Mark Sessler has a new

1181
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: column on the radar. Uh, you've done two now right

1182
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: on my radar. On my radar, let me make a

1183
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: notice different piece of technology than the radar, which is

1184
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: getting a lot of positive buzz on the internet. You

1185
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: wrote about the Dolphins Texans drama this week, so check

1186
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: that out. The Power Rankings the old zeuser that is

1187
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: back Tuesday. And also if you catch us in time

1188
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: tonight on eight at eight pm Eastern on NFL Network,

1189
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: Me and Money Smith and m j D and Cynthia Freeland,

1190
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: UH have a power ranking special. And finally, last but

1191
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: not least, Ricky Hollywood Everybody making Move. Fantasy League one

1192
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: begins this week four times a week, so check that out.

1193
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: That's a video show where Ricky's in front of the camera.

1194
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com slash Fantasy League one. This is Your

1195
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: Moment is the show where what happens on it um.

1196
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: There's six celebrities and six fantasy people in network and

1197
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: we're playing for charity and it's basically UH picks per

1198
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: week and a lot of fun challenges that go on

1199
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: within a fantasy team. See the celebrities should play for charity.

1200
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: Are you you're in the celebrity group I am not.

1201
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm just the people that work and you should be

1202
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: able to play for cold hard cash. I know, but

1203
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: unfortunately our NFL don't allow us to compliance anguished again, Yes,

1204
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: but charity is a great A great thing depends where

1205
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,439
Speaker 1: which one. But yeah, alright, my plug. Check out Chris

1206
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: Wesley and on Instagram. Sometimes good instant stories on there

1207
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: with the big Green eggs. Good music, not good, great

1208
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: smart and there's been some pop and heat about Wesley.

1209
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: A cooking show in development alongside the app. I don't

1210
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: know if it's in development. We can watch our own

1211
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: media empire West. Well, we got loaded home runs you

1212
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 1: need to put up. Didn't they have an I had

1213
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: to do a cooking show here like four Shadowy League

1214
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: figures ago or something. I don't want this to be

1215
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: at West at anything. No, this is a check out

1216
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: Western's Instagram. It's banging at all times. All right, that's it? Then,

1217
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: hands signing off for Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the Old Boss,

1218
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood behind the Glass, real football. Next time you

1219
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: hear from us, We're talking about a game that counted

1220
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 1: till Thursday night,