1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of Coast to Coast podcast. 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Become a Coast Insider to hear the rest of this 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: fascinating conversation and check out recent shows where we learned 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: about scientific efforts to revive the Wooly mammoth, the latest 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: in military drone technology, and the mysterious Shroud of Turin. 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: And you can listen to those programs and many more 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: amazing Coast shows by heading over to Coast to Coast 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: a m dot com and signing up for Coast Insider. 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. Jason Is. He's a co founder of numerous 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: successful tech companies, and he's a researcher and lecturer and 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: and we enjoy his presentations and what he does on 13 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: ancient civilizations and technologies. His research has been featured globally 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: on the Discovery Channel, sci Fi Channel, the BBC. He's 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: lectured around the world and has guested on the History 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: Channel show Ancient Aliens Now for ten years. He has 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: also authored numerous books on his research, including A Knowledge Apocalypse. 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: And I would like to welcome back to Coast to 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: Coast the one and only Jason Martel, Jason, good evening, 20 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: my friend. How are you hey, Jimmy, Thank you so 21 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: much for having me on your show. You know, Jason, 22 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: welcome back, and I want to start here today. We've 23 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about tonight. But what's really 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: cool about you and I is that we are genuine friends. Right, 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: We hang out, we do things together away from the 26 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: UFO community and stuff. But but one of the things, uh, 27 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: and I think the audience will enjoy this. Uh. We 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: talk about UFOs and technology a lot, but I've never 29 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: asked you this off the air. The success of Ancient 30 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: Aliens has been tremendous. And what do you think it's 31 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: effect has been on pop culture that wouldn't necessarily be 32 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: into Lost History or e t S or UFO or 33 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: alien technology. Is it really helping expose the world to 34 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: this grand question? I think it is. I mean, the 35 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: topic of ancient aliens in the last let's say, twenty 36 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: years is something that's caught I think a lot of 37 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: people's attention, and we can talk about some of that tonight. 38 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: How it might even fuel the modern day disclosure. And 39 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: you know what's really I think interesting on some of 40 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: these topics Jimmy is for people to realize that there's 41 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: a wealth of research in history, in our modern history 42 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: that shows that for some time now there seems to 43 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: be something going on. And again, this isn't my main 44 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: field of research. I'm going to give it a little 45 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: caveat before diving into this, but I am aware of this, 46 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: and I'm only regurgitating the information that's currently available within 47 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: our community. But I do think it's interesting because it 48 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: does tie into the field of research and ancient technology 49 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: for ancient astronauts, theory or looking into the past. But 50 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: there's a wealth of modern research even to the time 51 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: of President Reagan, investigating the fact that we clearly have 52 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: a large space presence that we're not being told about. Um, 53 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: if there is going to be any type of disclosure, 54 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: I think an interesting topic to discuss is the fact 55 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: that do we already have a very large presence in 56 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: space and if we do have that technology, where did 57 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: we get that inspiration looking to the past? So going 58 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: over to some of those topics and that I think 59 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: will be kind of inspiring for the audience to understand 60 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: that that connection, well, for you, when we look back 61 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: to the end of two thousand seventeen with a disclosure 62 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: happening in the mass media and the UFO subject. What 63 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: did that do for you? Take me through that moment 64 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: as you started to hear this break Well, honestly, Jimmy, 65 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: you know being you know hearing hearing these cycles happen 66 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: in our circle. Um, Um, Stephen Bassett, Um, Stephen Greer. 67 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: And now you know, by the great work of people 68 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: like Tom DeLong, you know this is this isn't new. 69 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: There've been others who have tried to crack the political 70 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: egg or you know, awareness at a government level. Um. 71 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: And so you know, while this isn't my field of research, 72 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: I always give credit to those hackling that part of 73 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: this conundrum. And for me, what what I think is 74 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: really interesting is to realize realize that the modern day 75 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: disclosure efforts really are fueled by by the last twenty 76 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: years of some very interesting research that you know, is 77 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: in the public domain. And if people look into this, 78 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: it really starts to raise a lot of questions, especially 79 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: starting off with something you know in the Reagan administration 80 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: where he himself was bragged by some of the Air 81 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,239 Speaker 1: Force personnel at the time. It could have been Navy, 82 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: which will dive into why Navy has more of a 83 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: presence in space in the Air Force. But they basically 84 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: told Reagan, you know, in extolling their efforts, well we 85 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: can now orbit over three hundred people around the sun. Well, 86 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: our shuttles only hold four, you know, pilots and a 87 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: fleet of four or five shuttles. We're talking twenty people max. 88 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: Where do they get this number three hundred? So there's 89 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff in the official archives, presidential information, 90 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: some of these sources that give us strong hints to 91 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: our much larger presence that we clearly have been secretly 92 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: building some type of fleet, if you will, At least 93 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: that's the word on the street in our community that 94 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: that for a long time now, even the black budget 95 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 1: spending trillions of dollars, maybe all of this is going 96 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: towards some speak, some secret space fleet. Why do you 97 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: think the Navy would be the branch of the military 98 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: to spearhead a space fleet. That's a great question, Jimmy. 99 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: You know, if we look at the Air Force, um, 100 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: even though they rule the skies of Earth, they're pretty 101 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: much all about individual craft, UM, different types of craft. 102 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: The Navy is all about building fleets. That means an 103 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: organization of craft. And so if you look at some 104 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: of the logos for the advancement of the Naval Command, 105 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: the logos are now Naval Space Command, So they clearly 106 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: have a presence beyond our oceans. And odd as it 107 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: may seem, yeah, the Navy seems to be having a 108 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: very large presence from what from what I understand, um 109 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: that they now have fleets of spaceships that we've been 110 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: utilizing for several decades in outer space. And again this 111 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: is an information I can confirm firsthand. It's information that's 112 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: coming from many different sources within our field. But the 113 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: beauty of what we can do, Jimmy, as researchers, as 114 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: you said, you know, it's connected these dots and show 115 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: a lucrative, a lucrative amount of information to support some 116 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: of these as ostentatious of of a hypothesis of some 117 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: of these things might be, I have the audience is 118 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: going to find this interesting. Jason has an image, He's 119 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: got an image, and I've had the privilege of meeting 120 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: some of the people that work with Jason with one 121 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: of his tech companies, and they are your typical tech 122 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: company staff, right, you know, geeks, nerds, intelligence, engineers and 123 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: all of this stuff going on, But do they know 124 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: or about you and you know, like this show tonight 125 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: and do you guys discuss this around the office. Well, 126 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: that's funny you asked that, Jimmy, and you know, honestly, honestly, man, 127 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't normally cross these fields or talk about it, 128 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: and I haven't really done so in the past. How Ever, 129 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: the team of people and I extol them, and I'm 130 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: very grateful. But the team that I currently am working with, 131 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: I have a startup company and I'm working with some 132 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,239 Speaker 1: very wonderful people, one of them you know in our field, 133 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: Walter Cruttendon Um. And so we have a company that 134 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: we're starting now called Blast, which the product will be 135 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: launching here in a couple of months. Um. It's a 136 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: very fun product. And so yes, in this company, the 137 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: spearheading of our back story around the procession of the equinox, 138 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: how there's a lot of hidden knowledge, esoteric knowledge in 139 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: our history and being able to understand that to help humankind, 140 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, we can also do that with modern technology. 141 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: And so yes, I've been very grateful Jimmy to be 142 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: able to help you know things in our society in 143 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: the modern technology phase of what I do and so 144 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: the ancient technology part. I've always wanted to merge the two, 145 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: and so thankfully things are allowing me to do that 146 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: in the direction where topics like ancient aliens and UFOs 147 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: and space fleets and things like that, while we don't 148 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: have the answers even like in your bumper intro, this 149 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: is what intelligent people should be doing is questioning the 150 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: status of normal uh, you know, procedures and things that 151 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: are just status quo. Let's push beyond those boundaries and 152 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: and find the answers and things that really make life exciting. 153 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: And that's what really thrills me as the opportunity to 154 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: live life on that level and seek the answers. What 155 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: do you do about critics? And that includes you know 156 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: the staff over at Prometheus too as well. You know, 157 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: they they come at ancient aliens pretty hard, and and 158 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: they also attacked the personalities like yourself on ancient aliens. 159 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: How do you deal with that? Well, you know, I 160 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: just you know, again, if you if you have ten 161 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: voices speaking to you, and eight to them are telling you, 162 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: good job, keep going, You're doing awesome, and two of 163 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: them are saying you're the devil or you know what 164 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: you're doing is wrong. Who do you choose to listen to? 165 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: And it's and it's your choice, and so you know, 166 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: over time, I think being in this field hardens researchers too, 167 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: trust their instinct. If they are on the right level 168 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: of integrity and honesty and what they're going for, then 169 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: sticking by that is usually the best bet. I give 170 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: hands down props to our good friend Georgio for you know, 171 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: leading the torch, taking that out of Eric van Danikin's 172 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: hand and then leading the torch of the ancient astronaut theory. 173 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: Because yes, it is extremely difficult for some people in 174 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: our field who are who are really pioneering and leading 175 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: that that charge with their personality. And Georgio and others, 176 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: even William Henry, I know you had him on a 177 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: couple other a couple of nights ago. I quietly was 178 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: listening in. I give all of my uh you know, 179 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: personalities in this field that we work with at it 180 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: because it is it's definitely not easy, but the tides 181 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: are turning, Jimmy, and that's why it's so exciting that 182 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: topics like disclosure can now be can now be discussed 183 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,239 Speaker 1: with an honest and open opinion and not go disclosure. 184 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: Let's talk about it honestly and see are there things 185 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: that could happen this year or within our lifetime that 186 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: actually changed the spectrum of how we view our our lives. 187 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: Last year, the spinoff convention, Alien con kicked off, which 188 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: shows you, um, you know, the effect ancient Aliens has 189 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: had on popular culture. It was an immense success. You know, 190 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: fift twenty thousand people at that convention. That's that's pretty 191 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: good for a for a cable television show. But let 192 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: me tell you what a lonely convention is. A lonely 193 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: convention is the skeptics conference. You walk in and there, 194 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, what is everybody here? All three of us? 195 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: You know, and and so there there's a big difference 196 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: there for me. When you saw the success of Alien Con, 197 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: does that validate you know, when you're seeing all corners 198 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: of of society showing up, you know, children, young and 199 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: old and all the generations represented. It was overwhelming in 200 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: a good way. I mean, honestly, Jimmy, you know we 201 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: do this every year, uh, in succession and conferences like 202 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: Conscious Life Expo, Contact in the Desert various other organizations 203 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: and institutions along the way that have these repeating events 204 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: if they're lucky that turnout is with max turnout standing 205 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: room only three thousand people for alien Con to pull 206 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: in fifteen thousand people. UM, yeah, it was overwhelming, but 207 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: in a good way. And while we're gonna do it 208 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: again this year closer to home in l A. And 209 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's going to be even more overwhelming. Um, 210 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, the gratitude from the fans and being able 211 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: to just connect with people. As you said, all age rages. 212 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: Age ranges from child the parents. Um. You know, parents 213 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: enjoy this because their kids are like, Dad, this is cool, 214 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: and so they're like, well son, let's watch it together then. 215 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: So it's it's creating camaraderie, um, in areas that help 216 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: that gap between child and parents, giving them something in 217 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: common to you know. 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