WEBVTT - Jacqie: Sister, Mother and CEO 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:08.320 My sister, Jackie Rivera compos I'm so grateful for this moment. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:11.440 I'm glad that we're setting it straight because people need 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:14.640 to know. I was your bestest friend. Now you're CEO 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:18.040 of Jennie Rivera Enterprises. I feel like I was the 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:21.119 right person for the job that I didn't know that 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:23.799 a year ago, sister, So tell us, how do you 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:27.040 do it now? I completely understand why mom always woke 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:30.760 up early. That lady was always up before everyone, and 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:39.519 I'm like, why doesn't she sleep for real? Hello, my 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:44.800 beautiful people, Gonna stands Moivian. Welcome to today's episode of 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:48.920 Chicks and Chill. I'm so, so so happy you're here today. 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:50.800 I'm going to be joined by one of my siblings 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.760 to talk about our relationship and how she juggles being 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:58.360 a mom, a wife, and the CEO of Jennie Rivera Enterprises. 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:01.320 I think you're really a joy this episode. So let's 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:11.440 get right into it. This is Chickens and Chill, you guys. 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:14.600 I am so excited to have my sister, Jackie Rivera 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:19.440 compos That's correct, right, sister, Yes, Jackie? Yes? Yes, okay, 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:23.240 perfect because she is married my sister, so we don't 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:25.880 hear from Jackie too often. So this is a very 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.120 rare and amazing opportunity. So Jackie, welcome to Chickens and 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.679 chill sister. Thank you, sister, Thank you big. I'm so 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:36.039 happy to be here. Of course, I love you. I'm 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:37.600 so happy we were able to make it happen. And 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.920 you guys, Jackie doesn't spell her name like regular Jackie's 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:44.080 like j A c k i E. She spells it 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:47.680 j A c q i E. Just so that you're 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.400 only different. My sister is thank you, sister, thank you 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:53.720 for putting some respect on my name. I know sometimes 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:55.600 I she was here at my house the other day 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.520 and I have a pet peeve when people leave their 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:02.520 water bottles like half empty or half fool. So I 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:05.200 put her name, I put Jack's and she's like, this 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:06.920 is not how you spell my name. She was very upset. 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:08.640 So I said, oh, ship, let me just say that 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:10.840 on on the podcast where people are aware. You're like 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:13.240 mom when they used to put a Y instead of 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:17.959 a Yeah. She hated it. Yeah, I think it's perfect. 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:21.160 It's very you, very cute. Jackie has always been different. Okay, 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.600 So I'm the eldest and Jackie and I are about 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.960 four years apart. Uh four years, right, yeah, four years 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:31.120 four years And I think and correct me if I'm wrong, sister. 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:33.600 But since I was the oldest and I was I 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:40.000 think so scared of mom, like I wanted her approval, 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.440 you were kind of more like the rebel. You're like, 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:44.680 I don't want to be like like I always wanted 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:46.400 to kind of do things right and make mom happy 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.760 and kind of like a little soldier. And you were like, 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.520 I don't give a damn. Uh huh, I don't give damn. 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.360 She would go to school and wear her Andy's on 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:56.760 top of her pants and were two two's and and 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:00.400 I was so piste. Why pissed out? What? Because I 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:04.080 wanted to be different? Or maybe it's like I wanted 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:08.280 to be seen. I don't know, yeah see, And I 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.959 think that this is something that this is actually a 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:13.520 great conversation. I wasn't even planning on having this, but 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:16.880 it might be like a because I think it caused 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:19.720 some friction because I don't want to say tension, but 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.639 maybe friction in our relationship. Because I was the eldest, 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.720 my mom expected a lot for me, and I think 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.560 my mom gave me a lot of attention, not because 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.560 she loved me more, but because I had so many responsibilities. 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:35.000 So I think you always felt like, hello, ex see, 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.640 still I'm here, like you know what I mean? Like you, 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:41.480 I think we're more rebellious. I wanted to be rebellious, 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:44.200 and I was rebellious, but very secretly like a lot 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:47.360 of things that were in Yeah, I would do things 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:49.720 that Mom she never even knew about, but like you 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:52.080 were all about it, like loud and like I am 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:56.640 who I am not knowing that like Mom appreciated that. 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:58.960 Mom was like she's like me, she doesn't give a ship, 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:00.600 Like she's gonna do whatever she want. She's going to 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:04.160 make it in life because she's she's a rebel. She 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:06.200 would tell me that. And I was always more like 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.920 a little bit more like I don't know now I'm different, 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:12.160 But I think I think you were that way because 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:15.480 we needed some stability. Like I remember you getting us 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:18.760 ready for school, You're getting me ready for picture days, 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.280 you know, just making sure everything was good, making sure 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:24.240 everyone did their homework, so that you had to be 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:28.479 the stability. Not that Mom wasn't stable, but she was working. 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.440 So then for me, I think it kind of made 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:33.440 me feel like I have like I don't know what 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:36.159 I have to offer, because that that position was already taken, 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:38.160 like the fact that mom could lean on you can 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:41.440 count on you, you know, you were the stable one. 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:43.600 So I guess I was kind of like, well, I'm 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:46.159 gonna be the crazy one or the wild one or 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.920 do whatever, you know, and and yeah, and it's it's 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.120 crazy now that like we're talking about it, like and 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.440 I want to kind of set the you know, the 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.880 record straight, because I think on social media people have 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:02.919 tried to cause this division between yes, this is yeah, 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:05.560 I know, and it's it's we've talked about and sometimes 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.839 I have fallen into like, you know, like reading certain 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:10.800 things this is before because I haven't like maybe like 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:12.520 two years ago, three years ago, where I would be 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.480 like and it would cause like that distance between us 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:17.560 until I got smart and I'm like, I just need 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:19.320 to talk to my sister and ask her straight up, 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.119 like you know, and we learned. But it's also because 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:25.919 we were so we exposed our life and especially with 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.520 the reality show, and we shared things that people probably 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.040 didn't have to know, but because we want to change 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:35.520 the world, shared intimate moments that we had that things 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:38.920 that happened, and I think every family, every sister, like 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.640 sisters go through this. It just happened to put it 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.520 out there on cameras, so people kind of started choosing sides, 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:46.200 and I'm like, dude, it's not about that. It's not 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.960 about having sides and trying to put us against each other. 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:53.919 You know, I'm so grateful for this moment because it 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:58.040 is frustrating, like people come and comment or you know, 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:01.320 like there's people that have like TikTok's of them reading 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.320 your book, like they're making it like audio version. So 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:06.600 then I get tagged on the parts where there's about me, 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.360 and I'm like, dude, they're so past this, you know, 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:10.960 we're so past like the little moments that we've had, 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.520 which is like and I'm glad for our communication because 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:15.680 some people don't talk forever. But I'm like, no, we're 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:20.160 gonna we're fighting for our relationship and we're not there anymore. 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:22.800 And I'm just you know, I'm grateful for that. But 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:24.960 it does come up a few times I'm like, whatever, 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.360 I used to like want to clarify, but I'm like, dude, 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:30.880 I don't even know these people, Like I'm never gonna 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.599 see this person ever in my whole life. But I 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:37.000 think naturally because of we're human, like the little they're 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:40.159 still can be a hundred positive comments and then that 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.120 one negative one that's against you or trying to cause division, 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.840 kind of like the one that sticks. So I've had 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:48.280 to learn to change that within myself, like it doesn't matter, 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:51.520 like not everyone's gonna be your number one fan, so 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:53.120 I have to be open to that. But I am. 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:56.800 I'm glad that we're setting it straight because people need 0:06:56.839 --> 0:07:00.400 to know. I was your bestest friend. So my very 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.160 first best friend, my very first best friend, my best 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:06.800 is friend, and we have been very close and we 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:10.000 are very close. Like I talked to my sister almost 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:13.440 every other day every day, like thank God my siblings 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:15.720 and are very very close. And I wanted to apologize 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:17.680 to you, sister, because you were okay with it. When 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.000 I wrote Forgiveness, the very first book, I was like, sister, 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:21.600 I'm going to talk about this because that's part of 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:23.760 my journey. But I wasn't doing it to make anybody 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.000 look back like it was because I needed to heal 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.000 and I needed to also hopefully help people. So hopefully 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:30.440 if you guys haven't read the book and you're going 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.480 to read it or any of my books that you understand, 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:37.240 you guys, that it's a way of just this outgand 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:41.000 limit and expressing something that happened. But my sister, my siblings, 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.680 and I think are better than ever and I wanted 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:45.640 to just put that out there. And I'm not ever 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.880 going to be okay with anyone attacking any of my siblings, 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.560 any of them. So when I see certain things and 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:53.200 it pisces me off and I'm like, I just want 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:54.960 to go and tell everyone, Like but I'm like, you 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.440 know what, it's okay. We know we're fine, but I 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:03.480 didn't want to be And now we got that out 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:05.960 of the way. Now we can talk about the mother. 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:10.560 Because Jackie became a mom at you were wet twenty sister, Yeah, 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:15.280 three days before it turned twenty, and she told me 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:19.960 to cry. Oh, I remember that day when you took 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:21.920 a pregnancy testing, Like, how am I going to tell Mom? 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:23.080 How am I going to tell Mom? I was like, 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:25.920 because I know the soft spot Mom had for you, 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.880 where she was like she saw so much of herself 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.600 and you that I knew you were so scared to 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:36.280 tell her. And I remember took a pregnancy test together. Remember, yeah, 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:38.839 I don't know if it was Sevas or Walgreens, I 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.840 don't know what, but we took we I'm like, just 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.439 take one with me, and you're like, okay, fine, we 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:50.360 take it together. And then we take it well and 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:52.960 you're like, oh my god, my looks different from yours. 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:57.360 And I'm like, oh ship, she's pregnant. But but thank 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:01.000 god because it changed my mother's weakn world. You guys, 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:02.920 I remember your mom was taking a nap in her 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.400 room and she's like, how am I going to tell mom? 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:06.760 And I'm like, I don't know. You just gotta freaking 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:10.120 tell her. It's okay, You're gonna be fine. Remember I 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:11.959 pushed her. I literally pushed her into the room. I 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:14.680 said okay here, and she's like, stayed quet with her 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:20.080 little face. We're just there. She was kind of trying 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:21.680 to she was to say what's going on? I said, 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:23.800 Jackie has something to tell you. She's like me, how 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:28.120 what what's going on? I'm pregnant and she said I remember, 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.040 And we were all crying and Mom was like, oh me, 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.679 how come he or that's all so she just think 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:36.400 it's okay, we'll figure it out and Let's be honest. 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.200 If it would have been me pregnant, my mom would 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.800 have been very pissed. But with Jackie, it's just I 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:42.439 think it happened all the way it was supposed to 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.880 happen the way like Jay look came into it, came 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:48.080 into our lives and changed our lives completely. And now 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:53.920 Jackie has four kids. Um, so there's Jay lothers, Genevieve, Jordan, 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:59.120 and Julian Um. And now she's she's a wife. She 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.120 still yes, you're a wiving, You're a good sister. Should 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.600 be proud of yourself, you know, well if you were 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:10.120 really emotional, because I think like right now that you said, 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.920 you know, when I turned nineteen or whatever, I got pregnant, 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:17.079 Like that's the moment like everything changed. Like I remember, 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:20.760 we were always together. We were always like, you know, 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:24.000 doing everything together, getting our nails together, all these crazy things, 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.560 and that's what shifted. Like that's where like I stopped 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:30.520 being your baby and then became a mom. And I'm like, dude, 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:33.640 it's just crazy because I remember we used to tell 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:35.520 each other we're never gonna get married, and we're gonna 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:37.720 grow old together and we're going to live in the 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.880 same house, and now I went in this sister, I know, 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:44.160 I remember we honestly, I did everything with you, and 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:47.400 we would go. I had my little probe, the black one, 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.400 to the club. They'll take care of the clubs, you guys. 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:51.800 I snuck out one day in this little bitch. She's like, 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:53.360 I'm gonna tell them if you don't take me with you. 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:55.360 And I was like, oh my god, in the middle 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:56.640 of the night to go to the races, you guys, 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.280 so here here I am taking out. Was fourteen, taking 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.640 my ten year old sister, sneaking her out of the 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:03.920 window to go with me to the damn races at 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:05.880 two o'clock in the morning. Well, my mom was asleep. 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:13.000 She remember I was wearing overalls. I addressed your friend. Oh, 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.040 they called him wreck. He was like a freaking I 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:20.360 don't know, like a breaker, a breakdancer. So um. Anyway, 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:22.520 so we did. We did do everything together. We would 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.840 like drive and lay under the trees together and listen 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:28.400 to music and we would have our window put down moments. 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:30.439 If the song was good, like it's a window put down, 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.720 let's put the window down, you would sing. But then yeah, 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:37.480 then things shifted and you became a mom and you 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:48.280 went through your things. Now you're CEO of January very crisis, 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:51.760 and I can't be more proud you, guys, because earlier 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:56.320 when Jackie said, you said something that stuck out to 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:58.559 me when you're like, how can I be of assistance 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:00.280 to Mom? And I think you felt for a long 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:02.480 time like I'm a little bit of an outsider or 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.120 because Mom and I were so close and we did 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:07.760 everything together, we built the empire that you felt like, well, 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:09.920 what am I like? You know what I mean? Now? 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:16.080 And it's crazy because I feel like like I'm doing something. 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:19.160 I feel like I did my part with Mom, and 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:23.319 now you're doing I don't know. You're so good at this. 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.360 You're so fucking good, Like I see the growth. There's 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:28.840 times you, guys, when I'm like, sister, what's going on 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:30.960 with this? Do I have to? Like I get upset 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.920 and She's like, don't worry. They're gonna fucking be sorry. 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:37.720 They messed with us. This is Jackie. She's grown so much, 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.960 like from this shy girl to this whole last woman 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:44.000 and CEO And I'm so I can't say it, and 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:47.559 I'm so freaking proud of you, Jacqueline, Like thanks. It's crazy. 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:51.520 So tell us about that. How has that been for you? Well, 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:57.719 it's it's definitely been a learning curve. I remember, um, 0:12:57.720 --> 0:12:59.640 when do we we have the discussion of me making 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:03.040 the vision to like take the step and like, okay, 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:04.960 I wasn't sure if I could do it. To be honest, 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:06.840 I was like, I don't know if I can do this. 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.439 I don't know. I guess because I've always been the 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:11.520 type to like second guest myself. I think I do 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.560 a pretty good front of like you know, up front, 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:16.760 like oh I got this, But I feel like I've 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:18.240 always been like I don't know if I'm smart enough. 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.280 I don't know if I'm brave enough. I don't I 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.360 don't know too much of this business because I've never 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:28.080 liked the music business. I feel like it's just a mess. Um. 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:31.520 But I remember like we had a conversation all the 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:33.520 siblings and everyone's like you can do it. I'm like, okay, 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:34.760 if they think I can do this, and maybe I 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:36.760 can do this. And then and then the beginning of 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:38.640 last year was just insane because there was like a 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.120 lot of crying going on. There was a lot of 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:45.480 like it's just really really scary stepping into places with 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:49.240 business people and and just people who seem like they 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:51.080 have it all together, and I felt like such a 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:55.280 little person. But fast forwarding to the end of you know, 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.320 last year, and now I feel like I feel like 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:00.120 I can sit in a place like that and know 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:02.720 who I am and have my head held high and 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:05.520 just being the authority. Like maybe I don't have all 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:07.040 the you know, I don't know all the terms or 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.320 I don't know everything, but I know who I am 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:12.760 as Jenny's daughter, and I know that I can take 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.600 these decisions and take it back to you guys, and 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.480 and you know, like I just feel good, you know, 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:20.520 I don't know, I feel like I've found my voice. 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.840 And even in that, like I feel like you've had 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:24.880 that moment with Mom in the beginning, Like I feel 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.960 like you couldn't be who you are now if you weren't, 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.440 you know, the second Mom, if you weren't the one 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:34.120 making the decisions and for us, you know, like you 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:37.080 just gained that voice and not even more after everything 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:38.800 you've gone through. So I feel like I've had that 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:42.040 moment as well. Obviously Mom's not here to walk me 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.000 through it, but I feel like I've had the moment 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.720 where like, no, you hold your head up, pie, you 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:50.920 have a voice, you have authority, you are smart, you know. 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.600 So I don't know. I just I'm sure if I 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:58.000 feel good. You are the daughter of of a queen, 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.760 of a woman that showed us so much, that showed 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:03.720 me so much that now I could you know, we've 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.040 taught you guys, And I just I don't know. It's 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.200 crazy because it's like you you're four years younger than me, 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:11.640 but I I feel so freaking proud, like if it 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.520 was mom, Like I I'm like, dude, this is crazy. 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.400 How how things work out. And one thing I did 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:19.480 want to also say, because I have heard like a 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:22.160 lot of people and even family members have said that 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.880 they think that I was the one that that made 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.600 you step into this and and cause Johnny to do 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:31.600 the yeah, to do the yeah, to ask for the 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:33.400 accounting and stuff. And it was like, dude, if you 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:36.520 guys only knew that's that's not the case. Jackie was like, Okay, 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:39.240 well things can be different. There are things that we're 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.760 not happy with, and she's like maybe it's my time, 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:44.880 and we pushed her to it. We're like, yes, if 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.880 you feel like yeah, because she was always second after 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:52.360 after the previous um trustee. She was always second, like 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:54.440 on the will and on the trust and everything. So 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:57.640 it was just a matter of Jackie being ready and 0:15:58.160 --> 0:15:59.880 she went in and she was honest and was like, 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:02.400 I I don't know. I'm like, well, we're gonna help you. 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.800 We're gonna put the right people. And you've done such 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:06.160 a good job. And what I love about you and 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:08.320 meetings that we've been at and I've been there to 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:11.680 see is you ask questions like you're not afraid, and 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:13.920 that's something Mom taught me, and I think that this 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.280 is an important lesson for people. Like if you sit 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.080 in a room and there's something you don't understand, you're like, 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:19.760 I'm sorry, but I don't know what that means. Can 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:21.560 you explain it to me? Like, I've seen you say that, 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.560 and that's shows so much. There's so much strength and 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.840 beauty in vulnerability. And I've seen you like, hey, I 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:29.720 don't know what that means. Can you explain it? And 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:33.200 that's beautiful Jack's because that's you learning and I've and 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.520 I've am I dude, I'm like, we have meetings. You 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.280 guys were like on a group chat or like on 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.840 conversations and my sister's like talking all this like all 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:42.160 this language, and I'm like, oh my god, I didn't 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:43.560 even know that you know what I mean. So I'm 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:47.800 learning from you. So it's it's good. And do you 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.920 feel completely different from it's been a year. It's been 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.480 a year since you've been in this position. You're completely like, 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:59.320 how do you feel now? Like a year later, I feel, Um, 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:04.240 I feel like I've the right person for the job. Um. 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.120 And I didn't know that a year ago. I I 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.040 remember I brought it up and I was so nervous 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:12.080 to bring it up, to step into that place. Um, 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.440 but I did it, like because I was just like, dude, 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:18.400 like for years I knew that, Okay, you're the next 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:20.920 person up. But I was like when I heard the 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:25.960 previous trustee always you know, complaining, candle say like, I 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:27.879 just don't you know, I could have always stepped up, 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.560 but I didn't feel that urge. But the previous like 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:32.960 not last year, but the year before it was just crazy. 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:34.919 We know how crazy that was. And I was like 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.679 someone used to step in and I felt it, you know, 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.800 like I felt like I have to do this, and 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:45.320 and having your guys back up obviously really really helped 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:48.480 me believe in myself. And now a year later, I'm like, 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.320 I know, it's not like I believe because believe. It's 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:53.320 like I don't know it yet, but I believe I 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:55.240 could do it. Now. I know now, I know, like 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:57.840 this is where this is good. I can do this, 0:17:57.920 --> 0:17:59.879 And I feel like I'm I'm the right person for 0:17:59.880 --> 0:18:03.480 the job because it's not like I don't want to 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:06.240 say too much because it doesn't matter with the previous people. 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.119 But I feel like I have a great relationship with 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:12.280 my siblings and it's it's like I'm just the one spearheading, 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:15.080 but it's all of us together. It's not like I 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:17.000 can't I don't have a good relationship and I have 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:18.199 to figure it out on my own, you know. I 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:19.960 just I don't know. I just I feel you don't 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:21.919 have like what I love is like you're not on 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:24.200 a power trip. You're not like not like an ego 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.959 thing for you. Like I want to handle it with grace. 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:28.560 And I'm not just saying it because she's my sister, 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:32.480 you guys, But she's always praying, she doesn't make impulsive decisions. 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.800 She's like always just okay, wait, let me see what 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.159 my siblings think, and we we talk literally saying the 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:42.160 table and we talk it through and sometimes if we're outnumbered, 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:45.280 we're out numbered and we go with whoever, like whoever decided. 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:48.159 Like we respect each other that much. And I always 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:49.919 tell my siblings, whether I'm the oldest or not, it's like, 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:53.600 respect your sister's position. Respect your sister. I understand you 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:55.520 need to talk to her because she's it's a difficult 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:57.840 thing you're a sibling. But I also tell you you 0:18:57.880 --> 0:18:59.920 are also a CEO, so you have to learn to 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:03.560 balanced that and not let emotions because I think that's 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:06.840 what happened previously with the previous administration is too many 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:09.280 emotions were involved and it's like, wait, what's going to 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:12.120 be best for the artist that you're represented? And that's hard, 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:15.159 but I think you've you've done it very well. And 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:17.520 because we have so much respect for each other as 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:20.920 as a whole, that we're all like, okay, Jackie is 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:23.840 the leader and we got to respect that. And I 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:27.439 think that that's important. You guys, thank your sister. I 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:29.680 really want to thank you for that because that's really 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:32.040 empowered me. You know, you've always you know, you're the 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:34.560 big sister, like you're the big sister. But when you've 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:37.639 taken a decision to be like no, like you know, 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:39.840 you've said, what does Jackie thinker, what does Jackie sayer? No, 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:42.640 you have to tell Jackie Like, those moments have really 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:44.359 empowered me. And I want to say thank you for that, 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:48.439 because for me, I think I've naturally like shrunk for 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:51.080 whatever things in my life have happened. I'm naturally just 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:54.840 shrunk and made myself smaller. But when you make those 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:58.480 you make it very clear that it's my position. Those 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:02.360 you I mean unconsciously or you know, but it has 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:04.080 empowered me. So I just want to say thank you 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:07.040 for that. You're so welcome, sister, and I promise you 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:09.960 I mean it, And I don't know how you do it. 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:13.320 And that's why I'm like, I don't know would it 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:15.760 even be, Like I don't even want to imagine, especially 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:19.560 like right now, if I were in your position and 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.480 I have no kids, like you are a full last 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:26.280 mother of four and you're a wife, and you have 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:30.639 your own business VI Colores and you guys check that out. 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:33.480 We'll give them all that information afterwards. But she has 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:35.439 her own business of T shirts that Colores and she 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:38.600 also runs Jenny River Enterprises, and I feel like I'm busy, 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:40.359 but I'm like, shit, how does my sister do it? 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:42.399 There's times when she's texting me at five in the 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:44.800 morning and I'm now starting to get up like that 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:47.480 again now, but like, I'm like, dude, how the She's like, well, 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:48.600 I have to work out before I go to work 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:49.880 and have to take the kids to school. And I'm 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:51.600 just like, She'll send us videos at seven in the 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:53.359 morning with all the kids and they're going to school, 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:57.120 and I'm just like, how, Like, how have you managed 0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:00.639 to juggle everything, sister? Like being in such a strong 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:05.560 position having a husband to understand that that's another thing, 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:09.119 you know that I'm like, and I see Mike, her husband, 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:11.280 you guys, she's I see the difference in him where 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:13.720 he's because he lets you be Jackie and he lets 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:17.359 you shine, And that takes a lot of balls in 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:19.520 a man to say, I'm here, I'm gonna take care 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:21.000 of my kids. I'm gonna let my wife do her thing, 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:24.720 you know. And she also sings, oh my god, you guys, sister, 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:28.160 so tell us, how do you do it? Like, honestly, 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:31.520 I think it's a it's an accumulation of all those things, 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:34.640 you know. Um, And now I completely understand why Mom 0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:38.760 always woke up early like that. Lady was always up 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:43.879 before everyone, and I'm like, why doesn't she sleep? And 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:47.960 now I understand, Like I just it's the waking up early. 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:56.120 It's honestly having Mike. He's completely different man, and he 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:59.120 knows that whatever it is that he has that can 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:03.879 help me, like just be be my person. He takes 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:05.800 that so seriously and he does it with so much 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:08.879 love that I can have the peace of mind that 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:11.439 you know, my kids are being taken care of. Sometimes 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:15.160 when I have late, late days, he he handles it. Um. 0:22:15.800 --> 0:22:19.080 So it's just it's that and and really just waking 0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:24.760 up early. And more than anything, I was very afraid. Um. 0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:27.639 I didn't want to sacrifice my relationship with my kids. 0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:30.360 I know each all of us had felt that when 0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:33.440 we were growing up, and that's always been like, um, 0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:35.600 in the back of my head, even with the colts 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:37.879 or when I made the decision to really focus on 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:40.120 my music, I was like, I want to do this. 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:42.119 It's my passion, it's what I love, but not at 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:44.240 the expense of my relationship. With my children. So I've 0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:47.240 always said after six pm, there's no work. I'm not 0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:50.240 I'm not working, and and it's been really hard because 0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:52.840 there's always something that's a pressing issue, the decision that 0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:54.560 needs to be made now. But I've always told myself 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:56.639 it doesn't need to be made now. You want it 0:22:56.640 --> 0:22:58.520 to be now, but it doesn't have to be. So 0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:01.960 I could wait until tomorrow when it's work hours because 0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:03.560 I need to help. I want to be there and 0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:07.119 help Jay the study for school. Um, which I want 0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:11.840 you to know that she got honor roll again my princess. Yes, 0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:15.560 I am a proud of mother, but it's she's not 0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:20.320 God daughter. Yes. So it's it's me making the conscious 0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:23.120 decision to like after six I'm not gonna swear any 0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:25.560 phone calls for many lawyers or anything like that, or 0:23:26.080 --> 0:23:28.080 or on the weekends, like I have that time with 0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:31.639 them and it's the family time. Um. But it's just 0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:37.360 reminding myself. So scheduling, so you wake up to have 0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:40.960 me out, which is it's your time, okay, because I 0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:43.000 was going to ask you that, like because I've noted, 0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:45.360 I'm like, okay, there there. You have to have a schedule, 0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:48.000 like it's it's a routine, you know, to say, Okay, 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:50.000 this is what's going to make me Jackie happy, and 0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:51.960 then have a make time for my kids. And I 0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:54.239 think it's super awesome. She was telling me the other 0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:55.920 day we were eating or something, and she's like, yeah, 0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:58.720 we have She puts all of the kids phone, all 0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:01.919 of their phones at it like charging center where no 0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:03.919 one can grab it, right or something like that can explain, 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:07.880 which I think is super cool. Yeah. So so for 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:11.120 for me, Jayla just got her phone, so I wanted 0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:12.760 to hold it off as much as I could. But 0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:14.520 now in the age that we're living and she needs 0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:16.280 a phone. She's thirteen, which is not that bad because 0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:18.560 I think that's the age I had mine. Um, but 0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:20.480 I don't want her to be addicted to the screen. 0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:23.320 And it's also helping me not be aded to my screen. 0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:26.040 So we all charge our tablets our phones in the 0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:28.600 same section. It doesn't it's not even with me at nighttime, 0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:30.639 it's not even with her at nighttime. Everybody charges it 0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:33.080 in the same section and we get to focus on 0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:36.320 us time. So everyone is off their phone by eight 0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:43.479 and everybody knows so and wow, I think that's awesome. 0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:45.679 I think everyone should practice that. I need to do that, 0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:48.320 like I really do. I've been wanting to put my 0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:50.600 phone in my bathroom like away from me for so long, 0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:53.560 so that I'm attempted to, like, you know, like when 0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:55.240 I'm I need to go to bed, you know, and 0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:57.720 I start thinking. And then it also helps because the 0:24:57.760 --> 0:24:59.480 alarm is set up at a certain time, so I 0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:02.160 have to get up and just arm it, so I'm 0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:04.439 already out of bed, and then we have to go 0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:08.359 to the gym there also, that's good, okay, And do 0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:11.080 you do you and Mike have like date nights? Uh? 0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:15.879 We we try to our best. Mikey actually did offer 0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:17.760 to take care of the kids so that me and 0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:19.399 Mike can have a day time and we took my 0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:23.320 Varne that yeah, Mike care brother. But yeah, for sure, 0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:25.840 I think that's good. I think that you are definitely 0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:28.280 in a in a much better place within your relationship. 0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:29.880 And I would just want to give us a round 0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:33.080 of applause to Mike. Hopefully here's my podcast. But I 0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:35.600 think that it's super awesome, you know, like that you 0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:38.920 freaking Mike, if you're hearing, hopefully you do. Thank you 0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:41.480 for loving my sister. And I see the change, and 0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:43.480 I love it and I'm just happy and I can't 0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:45.879 wait to go to the like you know, if you 0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:50.080 guys get married again. But we are, we are, We're 0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:54.199 going to renew our vowels and honestly, like, I'm so 0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:57.240 happy where we're at. So thank you for acknowledging that, Sister, 0:25:57.520 --> 0:26:00.439 My husband easy. But it's like how you said, like 0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:02.200 everything had to happen the way it did, and even 0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:06.280 us not being together for that long changed him, changed me. 0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:10.920 Now we came back together and separated. You were separated 0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:13.480 for three years, three years for three years, you know what. 0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:15.200 Maybe now I had got an idea you guys should 0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:17.919 come on together as a couple and talk about that 0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:21.760 if you guys wouldn't mind like having an episode of relationships, 0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:23.960 and I think we can all learn from it, you know, 0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:25.920 because yeah, a lot of people don't come back from 0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:27.800 what you guys went through. You know, like literally, you 0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:30.600 guys were separated for a while and it really did 0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:34.440 strengthen your love. And I see it. I see he's 0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:37.600 completely different. You're different. Like it's just you guys are 0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:39.080 in a great place and and I'm happy for you, 0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:44.240 which is continues to grow. But but yeah, I mean, 0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:46.280 and we just had a sister a spat sister day 0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:48.600 you guys. That was a few weeks ago. Yeah, that 0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:51.439 was awesome and I was happy that you, like you 0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:53.840 took the time off. So it's like you're really being 0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:56.600 intentional about I'm gonna work, but I'm also going to 0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:59.320 have me days like me You're you days. I've always 0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:01.480 told you that is when you became a mom for 0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:05.280 the first time. Actually, with Genevieve, Jayla, even Jordan's, I 0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:07.400 would have to remind to, like, sister, get your nails done, 0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:09.879 like you need to like have time for you. And 0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:11.800 I see that you do. Like your nails look great, 0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:14.239 your hair looks great. You're taking care of Jackie too. 0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:18.679 That's good. Thank you, sister. Yeah, until all the mommies 0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:23.080 out there, I admire you all because I remember I 0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.880 remember you would always tell me, like it's important take 0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:29.720 care of yourself. Yeah, since I since they were little, 0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:31.640 my sister's no, I was the one that makes sure 0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:36.440 you shave, make sure you know your skincare, and put 0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:42.720 your blog, put on yourself there everything. Yes, so I'm 0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:46.040 still that person. So um anyways, sister, actually, yes, I 0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:48.920 do want you to plug in the colors, tell us 0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:51.200 where they can find it, where they can shop, because 0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:54.200 that's important, that's your business. Thank you so much, sister. 0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:57.399 So right now we are strictly online at the gold 0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:01.719 Threads dot com, but we're working on having it at 0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:05.360 Jennior Very Fashion in the brim all along with Cheekies 0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:09.320 and stuff check is um Merch and you know the 0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:12.680 be Flawless and then Jessica stuff. So we're trying to 0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:15.280 get all that so they can have a physical location. Yeah, 0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:24.760 I'm excited for that. I know that for all of 0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:26.640 us last year, at the beginning of last year, when 0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:31.439 all this huge transition started and happened, we all were 0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:33.960 going through stuff, and I know you had this huge 0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:38.400 anxiety attack to like felt I think it was distress 0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:41.560 maybe or what do you think, like because you went 0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:45.000 to the hospital like you were so stressed out right, Yeah, 0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:49.280 so it was it was a panic attack. Um. I 0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:53.480 didn't know that I struggled with anxiety, but apparently I do. 0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:59.160 Janica had said that being forgetful it's like anxiousness. Um. 0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:00.880 I had struggled with a lot one Mike and I 0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:04.600 were not together, but with this change, I think I 0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:07.200 put a lot of pressure on myself, and I wasn't sleeping. 0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:10.240 There was a lot of like decisions needed to be made, 0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:14.440 and I just wasn't sleeping. I wasn't, really, like you said, 0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:16.560 the importance of taking care of ourselves. I wasn't doing 0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:18.720 the things I usually do as I like making sure 0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:23.480 I'm drinking of water. Sleeping is so important, and um, 0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:29.040 I don't know what happened. I remember I felt like 0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:33.120 I was like bleeding from the inside. So this was 0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:35.920 all mental though it's it's a mental thing. And and 0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:38.040 I was like, I'm dying. I'm dying, and poor my 0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:40.040 kids were there and everyone was freaking out, and Mike 0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:42.400 was like, I remember the look on his face. I 0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:43.840 was like, we have to go to the hospital. I 0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:48.040 think I'm dying. And I literally felt like all the 0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:51.480 blood and my body was coming out of me. There's 0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:54.440 nothing physical that could prove there was there. You could 0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:56.400 look at me, and I looked fine, but I felt 0:29:56.440 --> 0:30:00.000 it like the sensation of my fingers were getting tinglie 0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:03.240 and my toes were getting tingly, and I was getting dizzy. 0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:06.000 And I remember Mike rushing to the hospital and and 0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:09.520 Isabelle came to watch the kids and and and Mike 0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:15.040 couldn't get in because they wouldn't let him into the hospital. Yeah. Um, 0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:17.840 but I went into the hospital and they did they 0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:20.240 took my blood and everything was normal. Everything was fine. 0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:23.360 I'm healthy physically. But I was there like she hasn't slept, 0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:25.680 she's she's dying, de hydrated. She had a panic attack. 0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.959 I thought that I was dying, literally like it was. 0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:34.080 It was very very scary, very like I can't I 0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:37.040 I really thought I was dying. Like and I remember 0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:39.720 I was calling you. I remember I left you a 0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.560 voice message. Yeah, that was I was trying to call 0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:44.200 you guys to say bye to you guys because I 0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:49.120 thought I was dying. Good. It was. It was insane. 0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:50.880 And then I remember I was they put me in 0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:53.800 a wheelchair and I was looking at the lights and 0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:58.080 and I felt like if I fell asleep, I said, 0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:00.920 So I was fighting to stay awake so that I 0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:03.280 wouldn't die. But really my body wanted me to sleep, 0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:06.240 wanted me to rest. It was really crazy. It was 0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:11.080 very scary. But and how's how's your mental your mental 0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:13.480 health now? How do you are you feeling better? Do 0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:16.760 you have your feel better since that time? Mike really 0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:19.040 like he's like, okay, like you need to sleep, like 0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:22.520 because sometimes he'd let me just stay up and and 0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:24.200 I think that was when there was a switch, like 0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:26.360 he kind of like really stepped in like okay, babe, 0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:28.520 like like let's all go to sleep, let's rest, make 0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:31.200 sure you're eating, make sure, I think because I was 0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:33.960 so busy on making sure that, like I was, you know, 0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:36.720 taking care of everything. I had to take care of me. 0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:38.280 And though it was just I don't know, like it 0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:41.200 was a weird I don't know if without saying too 0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:43.440 much about what's happening in the business, like I think 0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:45.960 it was just a really stressful time and I was 0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:49.160 so consumed by that. And and now you know, it's 0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:52.800 the little changes where Mike's like we have conversations about 0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:55.160 what's going on, so that I convent because I felt 0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:56.360 like I had to take all the load to not 0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:59.600 stress you know, you guys out or or him out, 0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:01.760 and even just the pressure of like I need to 0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:05.040 make sure that I do it right I I And 0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:07.480 now now I know that I don't. I don't have 0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:09.120 to put that much pressure on me because I have 0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:13.360 your guys, like I know it, Like I think before 0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:15.320 I had this misconception of like I have to show 0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:18.080 that I'm there really working, you know, I don't know. 0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:20.760 It's just myself, not that anyone made me feel that way, 0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:25.520 and I get that. So now it's it's the little 0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:27.600 things like not having my phone with me and not 0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:30.600 staying up too late, and it's all those little things. 0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:35.080 I feel better. There's moments where I obviously there's decisions 0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:38.440 that need to be made and just situations that happened. 0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:40.720 But I'm like, I'm not I'm just gonna pray and 0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:43.560 give it to God, like me staying up, it's going 0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:46.959 to change the situation. Yeah. Do you feel like that 0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:48.840 was your wake up call, like where you're like, Okay, 0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:53.200 I need to make changes. Okay, Yeah yeah, and I didn't. 0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:55.400 Thank goodness that Mike is there to like support you 0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:57.920 and tell you, hey, um it's time to go to bed. 0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:00.400 I think, yeah, it's all about that. It's balancing your life. 0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:03.280 Maybe you were just so far the other way that 0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:05.480 it's just finding that balance. That's one thing that is 0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.560 so important for your mental health, for your physical health. 0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:12.440 So so I'm like, of course scared that that happened, 0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:13.800 and I'm like, oh my god, it freaks me out. 0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:15.600 But in a way, I'm like, Okay, that's God saying, 0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:17.600 hey Jack, sit down for a little bit, you know, 0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:24.440 and are you still doing therapy or like you're not right? Yeah? Yeah, okay, good, Yeah, Yes, 0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:30.400 we have therapist. Guys. It's my sister and I. She's awesome. 0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:32.960 She's so awesome, and she ends every session with the prayer. 0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:34.800 So it just makes me feel good. So you guys 0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:38.160 were huge advocates for therapy. You guys know, almost in 0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:40.920 every episode of Chick, I'm always therapy, therapy, therapy, like 0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:45.160 it's just talking and then putting it out. It's so important, 0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:48.200 you guys. So that's crazy, and I love that. I 0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:50.760 love that you're sharing that because I feel like in 0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:54.200 our generation. I feel like this generation, I don't know 0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:57.479 if we're millennials or whatever, but we're very much like 0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:00.440 take care of those issues, those internalized was the things 0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:04.479 that aren't seen. I feel like the previous generation. I 0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:07.560 remember Mom didn't believe in like depression and like she 0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:09.920 didn't believe it getting sad like get up and she 0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:13.440 didn't and obviously like maybe that's what she needed to succeed. 0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:16.640 But I like to cry. I get it all out 0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:20.759 like it's important. So I'm grateful and I feel like 0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:23.080 that's I remember, like even like Mom did not believe 0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:26.120 in organic Mom, I'm just like you know you were 0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:29.399 very much like you were the pivotal moment of like, no, 0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:32.160 this is important, and you know, I love it because 0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:35.960 now I'm healthy emotionally and all the areas. Yeah, because 0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:39.440 Mom was just like, let's just get ship done. Depressions 0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:41.239 in your mind and she didn't really get it, and 0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:43.600 I understand. It's like now it's like you said, we're 0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:45.880 about self help and self love and self growth and 0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:50.000 really like trying to get this internal part in. Yeah. 0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:53.560 So I'm very proud of you. I am that I mean, 0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:57.040 and you actually my sister Jackie introduced me to my therapist. 0:34:57.120 --> 0:34:59.200 You guys, so this I mean, I had many therapists, 0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.120 but this last one, the one that I'm working with now. 0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:03.759 She gave me for my birthday? Was it right? You 0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:07.040 gave me a book? Um, she gave me a book 0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.040 which is took me way back to my tow when 0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:11.560 we lived in Compton. What is a Chicken Soup for 0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:14.680 the Soup for the for the soul? And five sessions 0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:17.239 to this therapist tanyes So and I'm so grateful. She's 0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:20.959 so awesome. I love her so much because I'm glad. 0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:23.680 I've been telling sometimes like Tanya and talk to you. 0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:26.120 Can you take me today? She's like okay, yes, five PM. 0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:31.640 I'm like, okay, perfect, thank you. So um not only 0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:33.879 like I said you guys, is my sister, a mother, 0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:39.440 a wife for CEO she has, She's an entrepreneur. She 0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:43.560 also is a singer, a very talented singer, beautiful singer. 0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:46.000 I have been her fans since the first time I 0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:48.759 heard her sing and also at church. She has the 0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:52.400 voice of an angel. Um. So, what's going on with 0:35:52.400 --> 0:36:00.239 their music? Well, I am working on my album. Um up, 0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:05.919 I'm working on it. I I'm balancing everything I'm doing 0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:09.279 with my album. And that's more of a gift to 0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:12.480 myself because I kind of for some reason, I was 0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:14.920 wrote off singing like I'm like, I'm not gonna do this. 0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:16.680 I love it, but I'm not gonna do it. I'm 0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:19.759 afraid of the business. But I think now, like I 0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:21.960 made my two or three years ago, I just said, 0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:23.319 don't know, I need to do this album and just 0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:25.120 do it for myself, like show myself that I could 0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:27.920 do it, and then you know, life through curveballs and 0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:30.520 then positions shifted and changed. But I'm like, no, I 0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:34.040 can't let that slip away. So we're almost done. I 0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:38.000 don't have like a date or anything yet, but um, 0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:42.960 I am working. Oh my god, I'm so excited. I 0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:45.080 have to tell you, guys, I didn't know she was 0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:47.319 working on an actual album, but actually did show me 0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:50.919 like a song. We had a sibling meeting a few 0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:53.440 weeks ago and she showed me a song, you guys, 0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:56.480 and I was like floored. I was like, what it. 0:36:57.280 --> 0:37:00.359 You've always been an amazing finger at jack, but this 0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:03.600 is another level and this song is so wow, one 0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:05.520 of my favorite songs. I don't know, I just cannot. 0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:06.840 I can't wait for you guys to hear it. So 0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:09.880 I'm so happy they're working on this album. You know me, sister, 0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:12.320 we're going to have to have an album release party, 0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:18.360 you know. Oh my gosh, oh my god. Can you 0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:20.360 give us a little hint as to what kind of music. 0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:29.000 Maybe it's bilingual and it's like alternative, like rock. It's 0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:31.279 so fucking awesome. You guys are counting for you to 0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:33.840 hear it, and people are always asking sister for a 0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:37.959 cheek ease and Jackie song. And I know, dude, yeah, 0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:40.960 I haven't every all the time, so we need to 0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:43.600 do it O say yeah, I mean the moment you 0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:46.759 got and I have a song in mind. I'll share 0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:48.040 that with you later because it has a bit surprise. 0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:50.960 But Jackie and I have a little surprise coming. We 0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:53.680 can't tell you how or what, but it's coming. It's 0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:57.719 already done. Um so, but we do need to do 0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:00.120 you something, you and I something like super different it 0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:02.440 so I would love that. And I just want to 0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:08.520 say thank you for believing in me, sister. Why am 0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:14.759 I still emotional? Yes, I promise. Um. I just want 0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:16.359 to say thank you for believing in me. I know 0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:19.840 that it hasn't been easy because people are so cruel 0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:22.799 and negative and have tried to put us against each other, 0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:26.200 especially on the music side. Um. And I always tell 0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:29.640 people like my sister has something else, like you have 0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:33.719 this grace and charisma and the stage presence and your 0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:35.799 voice has grown. But I just want to say thank 0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:38.600 you for supporting me and even like inviting me to 0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:41.160 be part of the concert in Nanaheim, like that did 0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:44.319 something in me of like I actually do like I 0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:47.439 love this, you know, so just it's every little thing. 0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:49.200 So I just I just want to say thank you, 0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:52.280 and I really appreciate you being the best big sister 0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:55.800 and just backing me and supporting me even when people 0:38:56.520 --> 0:39:01.480 try to stupid. Yes, people can be a holes. But 0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:04.200 you know, I've learned, and it's taken me a while 0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.080 because for a long time I did feel like, oh 0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:07.799 my gosh, my sister has a better voice than me, 0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:09.880 and maybe this is what I'm supposed to do. We 0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:12.279 just have different voices. That's what I've learned. We have 0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:16.319 different voices, and I've learned to embrace my voice. And 0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:19.239 my voice is different, and I have my own light 0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:21.280 to shine and she has her own light to shine. 0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:23.879 And it's not about competing or being better than each 0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:27.359 other or one another or it's about just embracing each 0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:31.960 other's talent, like knowing that I have something special and 0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:33.680 so does she, and so does my mom and so 0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:37.640 does everyone else. And people need to stop comparing and 0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:41.760 putting people against each other. That's just so not cool. 0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:45.200 Like people are like Okay, Beyonce, Arihanna or Drake and 0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:48.760 like it's it's like, dude, it's always always Michael Jackson 0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:52.799 her prints like dude got again, Like I everyone has 0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:54.600 their own thing, like just stop with that. Like, and 0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:56.880 I'm not going to allow anyone's comment or anything to 0:39:56.920 --> 0:40:00.320 come between us. I embrace you completely as my baby sister, 0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:03.760 as an artist, like I admire you, and I admire 0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:05.759 so many other women. Why wouldn't I admire my own sister? 0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:12.520 You know what I mean? I think, do you remember 0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:15.600 anything embarrassing, sister about like our child said, anything that 0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:20.319 you want to share, like something, I mean, besides the 0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:22.279 time that you were I was running around naked that 0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:31.280 we shared on Santa's podcast. But I'm trying to think what, Oh, sister, Yes, 0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:33.319 I don't know if we said the story before. Come 0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:36.920 on tell them that. Yes, I don't even remember that 0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:42.680 but her poop, yes, guys, Okay, so fine, I'll tell 0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:46.280 the story. Go friends. Okay. So we lived in Compton 0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:49.600 and it was our house on Keene Street and Compton 0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:53.120 and um my mom and dad had just gotten back 0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:59.360 together and anyways, so our water wasn't working. My I 0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:01.480 don't know if mom forgot to pay the water bill 0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:03.799 or what happened, but the water was not working. So 0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:06.600 I woke up and I pooped. I was like five 0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:09.799 or something like that. Mom told, yeah, my mom told 0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:11.799 me not to poop, but hey, I'm five years old. 0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:15.040 I had a poop. So I got up and secretly 0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:16.759 went to the bathroom. And I remember seeing my mom 0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:17.920 and my dad on the couch and I was like, 0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:20.920 I'm just gonna walk real slowly, took little poop. I 0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:22.839 went back to my room and there goes little She's 0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:26.360 most jack Jackie. There goes Jackie and goes after what 0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:28.880 did my sister go do? I went to the toilet 0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:32.720 and grabbed my little poop and it, Oh my god. 0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:34.960 She literally was like I remember. I was like, oh 0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:36.399 my god, Jackie is sid in her in her bed 0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:37.600 and I was like, went to go. Look, you were 0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:39.400 in the toilet, on the toilet like literally had the 0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:43.279 settle thing. Sorry, that's such ad the poop in her hand, 0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:45.680 and she was like biting on it like it was 0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:49.520 a Snickers. You guys, I just got girls stout disgusting 0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:51.680 And then as a mom, like I put myself in 0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:54.799 that position and like with no water to clean me, 0:41:55.560 --> 0:42:01.920 there was no am like I'm sorry I had ap 0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:04.000 in there. Oh, but you weren't taking you a care 0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:06.760 of your sister. And I'm like, oh my gosh. But anyways, 0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:11.120 that's a little story you guys. I swear I know 0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:14.439 Mom was pissed. Oh my god. Sorry. Johnny's here too. 0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:16.279 He's he's He's the one that reminded me of the 0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:19.840 poop story. Um, but you want to know something funny. 0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:24.280 So Jeneteve has bangs. My my second daughter has bangs, 0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:26.960 and I made me think of you, and they were 0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:29.480 like just all up in her face. They've they've grown out. 0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:32.239 So I was like, I'm just gonna try to cut them, bro, 0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:37.960 And it made me think, like her brains are now 0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:40.960 above her eyebrows and her twick and it made me 0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:43.080 think of the time that you did that. I mean 0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:46.160 to you, it's because you're the secret is if you're 0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:48.200 gonna cut bangs, you guys, don't do it when the 0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:51.160 hair is wet. I was terrible, Yeah, because once they so, 0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:54.960 they're like twickles. I'll send you a picture. They're like 0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:57.000 my messed up. One side is higher than the other. 0:42:57.160 --> 0:43:00.600 And I remember when you did that. I'm just like, okay, well, 0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:04.840 I mean whatever. But she's so kind, she's so sweet. 0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:07.480 She's like it's okay, mom me like, you can tell 0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:10.400 she's unhappy, but she like, it's okay, Mommy. They're going 0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:14.080 to grow out. Oh she's so sweet, My Jenny. We 0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:19.840 can just straighten them, just pin them back. That's what 0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:21.160 I did with you. I just could pick them back 0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:23.600 for a long time. But you, guys, I hope you 0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:26.640 really enjoyed this episode. I definitely did, sister. Thank you 0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:29.360 for your time. Um. I love this conversation with so 0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:33.319 healing from my heart and hopefully people can listen to 0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:37.080 it and learn from us, and learn from you especially, 0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:40.480 and know that we're good. You and I are very 0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:42.319 good and we have been for a long time. And 0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:46.640 f the naysayers, f them, and to all my cheek 0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:48.640 ease and chill listeners. You guys know I always end 0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:50.680 my episodes with a quote, one or two, you know, 0:43:56.080 --> 0:43:58.680 So here's a quote. Sisters don't need words to understand 0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:02.960 each other. They have did their own secret language of smiles, sniffs, 0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:06.920 size gasps, winks, and eye rolls. It's very true. Another 0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:10.360 one the greatest gift our parents ever gave us was 0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:15.400 each other. So thank you parents. Those are the two quotes, 0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:18.920 you guys, Oh my gosh, thank you so much. For 0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:20.759 for being with me and I love you, sister, and 0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:23.399 I'll see you so much. I love you with all 0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:32.800 my heart peace. Do you need advice on love, relationships, health? Imas. 0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:35.640 I'm so excited to share with you that my Cheekies 0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:38.960 and Chill podcast will have an extra episode drop each week. 0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:42.320 I'll be answering all your questions. Just leave me a 0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:48.000 voice message. 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