Speaker 1: My sister, Jackie Rivera compos I'm so grateful for this moment.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we're setting it straight because people need
Speaker 1: to know. I was your bestest friend. Now you're CEO
Speaker 1: of Jennie Rivera Enterprises. I feel like I was the
Speaker 1: right person for the job that I didn't know that
Speaker 1: a year ago, sister, So tell us, how do you
Speaker 1: do it now? I completely understand why mom always woke
Speaker 1: up early. That lady was always up before everyone, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, why doesn't she sleep for real? Hello, my
Speaker 1: beautiful people, Gonna stands Moivian. Welcome to today's episode of
Speaker 1: Chicks and Chill. I'm so, so so happy you're here today.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be joined by one of my siblings
Speaker 1: to talk about our relationship and how she juggles being
Speaker 1: a mom, a wife, and the CEO of Jennie Rivera Enterprises.
Speaker 1: I think you're really a joy this episode. So let's
Speaker 1: get right into it. This is Chickens and Chill, you guys.
Speaker 1: I am so excited to have my sister, Jackie Rivera
Speaker 1: compos That's correct, right, sister, Yes, Jackie? Yes? Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: perfect because she is married my sister, so we don't
Speaker 1: hear from Jackie too often. So this is a very
Speaker 1: rare and amazing opportunity. So Jackie, welcome to Chickens and
Speaker 1: chill sister. Thank you, sister, Thank you big. I'm so
Speaker 1: happy to be here. Of course, I love you. I'm
Speaker 1: so happy we were able to make it happen. And
Speaker 1: you guys, Jackie doesn't spell her name like regular Jackie's
Speaker 1: like j A c k i E. She spells it
Speaker 1: j A c q i E. Just so that you're
Speaker 1: only different. My sister is thank you, sister, thank you
Speaker 1: for putting some respect on my name. I know sometimes
Speaker 1: I she was here at my house the other day
Speaker 1: and I have a pet peeve when people leave their
Speaker 1: water bottles like half empty or half fool. So I
Speaker 1: put her name, I put Jack's and she's like, this
Speaker 1: is not how you spell my name. She was very upset.
Speaker 1: So I said, oh, ship, let me just say that
Speaker 1: on on the podcast where people are aware. You're like
Speaker 1: mom when they used to put a Y instead of
Speaker 1: a Yeah. She hated it. Yeah, I think it's perfect.
Speaker 1: It's very you, very cute. Jackie has always been different. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I'm the eldest and Jackie and I are about
Speaker 1: four years apart. Uh four years, right, yeah, four years
Speaker 1: four years And I think and correct me if I'm wrong, sister.
Speaker 1: But since I was the oldest and I was I
Speaker 1: think so scared of mom, like I wanted her approval,
Speaker 1: you were kind of more like the rebel. You're like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be like like I always wanted
Speaker 1: to kind of do things right and make mom happy
Speaker 1: and kind of like a little soldier. And you were like,
Speaker 1: I don't give a damn. Uh huh, I don't give damn.
Speaker 1: She would go to school and wear her Andy's on
Speaker 1: top of her pants and were two two's and and
Speaker 1: I was so piste. Why pissed out? What? Because I
Speaker 1: wanted to be different? Or maybe it's like I wanted
Speaker 1: to be seen. I don't know, yeah see, And I
Speaker 1: think that this is something that this is actually a
Speaker 1: great conversation. I wasn't even planning on having this, but
Speaker 1: it might be like a because I think it caused
Speaker 1: some friction because I don't want to say tension, but
Speaker 1: maybe friction in our relationship. Because I was the eldest,
Speaker 1: my mom expected a lot for me, and I think
Speaker 1: my mom gave me a lot of attention, not because
Speaker 1: she loved me more, but because I had so many responsibilities.
Speaker 1: So I think you always felt like, hello, ex see,
Speaker 1: still I'm here, like you know what I mean? Like you,
Speaker 1: I think we're more rebellious. I wanted to be rebellious,
Speaker 1: and I was rebellious, but very secretly like a lot
Speaker 1: of things that were in Yeah, I would do things
Speaker 1: that Mom she never even knew about, but like you
Speaker 1: were all about it, like loud and like I am
Speaker 1: who I am not knowing that like Mom appreciated that.
Speaker 1: Mom was like she's like me, she doesn't give a ship,
Speaker 1: Like she's gonna do whatever she want. She's going to
Speaker 1: make it in life because she's she's a rebel. She
Speaker 1: would tell me that. And I was always more like
Speaker 1: a little bit more like I don't know now I'm different,
Speaker 1: But I think I think you were that way because
Speaker 1: we needed some stability. Like I remember you getting us
Speaker 1: ready for school, You're getting me ready for picture days,
Speaker 1: you know, just making sure everything was good, making sure
Speaker 1: everyone did their homework, so that you had to be
Speaker 1: the stability. Not that Mom wasn't stable, but she was working.
Speaker 1: So then for me, I think it kind of made
Speaker 1: me feel like I have like I don't know what
Speaker 1: I have to offer, because that that position was already taken,
Speaker 1: like the fact that mom could lean on you can
Speaker 1: count on you, you know, you were the stable one.
Speaker 1: So I guess I was kind of like, well, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be the crazy one or the wild one or
Speaker 1: do whatever, you know, and and yeah, and it's it's
Speaker 1: crazy now that like we're talking about it, like and
Speaker 1: I want to kind of set the you know, the
Speaker 1: record straight, because I think on social media people have
Speaker 1: tried to cause this division between yes, this is yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, and it's it's we've talked about and sometimes
Speaker 1: I have fallen into like, you know, like reading certain
Speaker 1: things this is before because I haven't like maybe like
Speaker 1: two years ago, three years ago, where I would be
Speaker 1: like and it would cause like that distance between us
Speaker 1: until I got smart and I'm like, I just need
Speaker 1: to talk to my sister and ask her straight up,
Speaker 1: like you know, and we learned. But it's also because
Speaker 1: we were so we exposed our life and especially with
Speaker 1: the reality show, and we shared things that people probably
Speaker 1: didn't have to know, but because we want to change
Speaker 1: the world, shared intimate moments that we had that things
Speaker 1: that happened, and I think every family, every sister, like
Speaker 1: sisters go through this. It just happened to put it
Speaker 1: out there on cameras, so people kind of started choosing sides,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, dude, it's not about that. It's not
Speaker 1: about having sides and trying to put us against each other.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm so grateful for this moment because it
Speaker 1: is frustrating, like people come and comment or you know,
Speaker 1: like there's people that have like TikTok's of them reading
Speaker 1: your book, like they're making it like audio version. So
Speaker 1: then I get tagged on the parts where there's about me,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, dude, they're so past this, you know,
Speaker 1: we're so past like the little moments that we've had,
Speaker 1: which is like and I'm glad for our communication because
Speaker 1: some people don't talk forever. But I'm like, no, we're
Speaker 1: gonna we're fighting for our relationship and we're not there anymore.
Speaker 1: And I'm just you know, I'm grateful for that. But
Speaker 1: it does come up a few times I'm like, whatever,
Speaker 1: I used to like want to clarify, but I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: I don't even know these people, Like I'm never gonna
Speaker 1: see this person ever in my whole life. But I
Speaker 1: think naturally because of we're human, like the little they're
Speaker 1: still can be a hundred positive comments and then that
Speaker 1: one negative one that's against you or trying to cause division,
Speaker 1: kind of like the one that sticks. So I've had
Speaker 1: to learn to change that within myself, like it doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: like not everyone's gonna be your number one fan, so
Speaker 1: I have to be open to that. But I am.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we're setting it straight because people need
Speaker 1: to know. I was your bestest friend. So my very
Speaker 1: first best friend, my very first best friend, my best
Speaker 1: is friend, and we have been very close and we
Speaker 1: are very close. Like I talked to my sister almost
Speaker 1: every other day every day, like thank God my siblings
Speaker 1: and are very very close. And I wanted to apologize
Speaker 1: to you, sister, because you were okay with it. When
Speaker 1: I wrote Forgiveness, the very first book, I was like, sister,
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about this because that's part of
Speaker 1: my journey. But I wasn't doing it to make anybody
Speaker 1: look back like it was because I needed to heal
Speaker 1: and I needed to also hopefully help people. So hopefully
Speaker 1: if you guys haven't read the book and you're going
Speaker 1: to read it or any of my books that you understand,
Speaker 1: you guys, that it's a way of just this outgand
Speaker 1: limit and expressing something that happened. But my sister, my siblings,
Speaker 1: and I think are better than ever and I wanted
Speaker 1: to just put that out there. And I'm not ever
Speaker 1: going to be okay with anyone attacking any of my siblings,
Speaker 1: any of them. So when I see certain things and
Speaker 1: it pisces me off and I'm like, I just want
Speaker 1: to go and tell everyone, Like but I'm like, you
Speaker 1: know what, it's okay. We know we're fine, but I
Speaker 1: didn't want to be And now we got that out
Speaker 1: of the way. Now we can talk about the mother.
Speaker 1: Because Jackie became a mom at you were wet twenty sister, Yeah,
Speaker 1: three days before it turned twenty, and she told me
Speaker 1: to cry. Oh, I remember that day when you took
Speaker 1: a pregnancy testing, Like, how am I going to tell Mom?
Speaker 1: How am I going to tell Mom? I was like,
Speaker 1: because I know the soft spot Mom had for you,
Speaker 1: where she was like she saw so much of herself
Speaker 1: and you that I knew you were so scared to
Speaker 1: tell her. And I remember took a pregnancy test together. Remember, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was Sevas or Walgreens, I
Speaker 1: don't know what, but we took we I'm like, just
Speaker 1: take one with me, and you're like, okay, fine, we
Speaker 1: take it together. And then we take it well and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, my looks different from yours.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh ship, she's pregnant. But but thank
Speaker 1: god because it changed my mother's weakn world. You guys,
Speaker 1: I remember your mom was taking a nap in her
Speaker 1: room and she's like, how am I going to tell mom?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't know. You just gotta freaking
Speaker 1: tell her. It's okay, You're gonna be fine. Remember I
Speaker 1: pushed her. I literally pushed her into the room. I
Speaker 1: said okay here, and she's like, stayed quet with her
Speaker 1: little face. We're just there. She was kind of trying
Speaker 1: to she was to say what's going on? I said,
Speaker 1: Jackie has something to tell you. She's like me, how
Speaker 1: what what's going on? I'm pregnant and she said I remember,
Speaker 1: And we were all crying and Mom was like, oh me,
Speaker 1: how come he or that's all so she just think
Speaker 1: it's okay, we'll figure it out and Let's be honest.
Speaker 1: If it would have been me pregnant, my mom would
Speaker 1: have been very pissed. But with Jackie, it's just I
Speaker 1: think it happened all the way it was supposed to
Speaker 1: happen the way like Jay look came into it, came
Speaker 1: into our lives and changed our lives completely. And now
Speaker 1: Jackie has four kids. Um, so there's Jay lothers, Genevieve, Jordan,
Speaker 1: and Julian Um. And now she's she's a wife. She
Speaker 1: still yes, you're a wiving, You're a good sister. Should
Speaker 1: be proud of yourself, you know, well if you were
Speaker 1: really emotional, because I think like right now that you said,
Speaker 1: you know, when I turned nineteen or whatever, I got pregnant,
Speaker 1: Like that's the moment like everything changed. Like I remember,
Speaker 1: we were always together. We were always like, you know,
Speaker 1: doing everything together, getting our nails together, all these crazy things,
Speaker 1: and that's what shifted. Like that's where like I stopped
Speaker 1: being your baby and then became a mom. And I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: it's just crazy because I remember we used to tell
Speaker 1: each other we're never gonna get married, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: grow old together and we're going to live in the
Speaker 1: same house, and now I went in this sister, I know,
Speaker 1: I remember we honestly, I did everything with you, and
Speaker 1: we would go. I had my little probe, the black one,
Speaker 1: to the club. They'll take care of the clubs, you guys.
Speaker 1: I snuck out one day in this little bitch. She's like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell them if you don't take me with you.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god, in the middle
Speaker 1: of the night to go to the races, you guys,
Speaker 1: so here here I am taking out. Was fourteen, taking
Speaker 1: my ten year old sister, sneaking her out of the
Speaker 1: window to go with me to the damn races at
Speaker 1: two o'clock in the morning. Well, my mom was asleep.
Speaker 1: She remember I was wearing overalls. I addressed your friend. Oh,
Speaker 1: they called him wreck. He was like a freaking I
Speaker 1: don't know, like a breaker, a breakdancer. So um. Anyway,
Speaker 1: so we did. We did do everything together. We would
Speaker 1: like drive and lay under the trees together and listen
Speaker 1: to music and we would have our window put down moments.
Speaker 1: If the song was good, like it's a window put down,
Speaker 1: let's put the window down, you would sing. But then yeah,
Speaker 1: then things shifted and you became a mom and you
Speaker 1: went through your things. Now you're CEO of January very crisis,
Speaker 1: and I can't be more proud you, guys, because earlier
Speaker 1: when Jackie said, you said something that stuck out to
Speaker 1: me when you're like, how can I be of assistance
Speaker 1: to Mom? And I think you felt for a long
Speaker 1: time like I'm a little bit of an outsider or
Speaker 1: because Mom and I were so close and we did
Speaker 1: everything together, we built the empire that you felt like, well,
Speaker 1: what am I like? You know what I mean? Now?
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because I feel like like I'm doing something.
Speaker 1: I feel like I did my part with Mom, and
Speaker 1: now you're doing I don't know. You're so good at this.
Speaker 1: You're so fucking good, Like I see the growth. There's
Speaker 1: times you, guys, when I'm like, sister, what's going on
Speaker 1: with this? Do I have to? Like I get upset
Speaker 1: and She's like, don't worry. They're gonna fucking be sorry.
Speaker 1: They messed with us. This is Jackie. She's grown so much,
Speaker 1: like from this shy girl to this whole last woman
Speaker 1: and CEO And I'm so I can't say it, and
Speaker 1: I'm so freaking proud of you, Jacqueline, Like thanks. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: So tell us about that. How has that been for you? Well,
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely been a learning curve. I remember, um,
Speaker 1: when do we we have the discussion of me making
Speaker 1: the vision to like take the step and like, okay,
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if I could do it. To be honest,
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if I can do this.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess because I've always been the
Speaker 1: type to like second guest myself. I think I do
Speaker 1: a pretty good front of like you know, up front,
Speaker 1: like oh I got this, But I feel like I've
Speaker 1: always been like I don't know if I'm smart enough.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm brave enough. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know too much of this business because I've never
Speaker 1: liked the music business. I feel like it's just a mess. Um.
Speaker 1: But I remember like we had a conversation all the
Speaker 1: siblings and everyone's like you can do it. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: if they think I can do this, and maybe I
Speaker 1: can do this. And then and then the beginning of
Speaker 1: last year was just insane because there was like a
Speaker 1: lot of crying going on. There was a lot of
Speaker 1: like it's just really really scary stepping into places with
Speaker 1: business people and and just people who seem like they
Speaker 1: have it all together, and I felt like such a
Speaker 1: little person. But fast forwarding to the end of you know,
Speaker 1: last year, and now I feel like I feel like
Speaker 1: I can sit in a place like that and know
Speaker 1: who I am and have my head held high and
Speaker 1: just being the authority. Like maybe I don't have all
Speaker 1: the you know, I don't know all the terms or
Speaker 1: I don't know everything, but I know who I am
Speaker 1: as Jenny's daughter, and I know that I can take
Speaker 1: these decisions and take it back to you guys, and
Speaker 1: and you know, like I just feel good, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like I've found my voice.
Speaker 1: And even in that, like I feel like you've had
Speaker 1: that moment with Mom in the beginning, Like I feel
Speaker 1: like you couldn't be who you are now if you weren't,
Speaker 1: you know, the second Mom, if you weren't the one
Speaker 1: making the decisions and for us, you know, like you
Speaker 1: just gained that voice and not even more after everything
Speaker 1: you've gone through. So I feel like I've had that
Speaker 1: moment as well. Obviously Mom's not here to walk me
Speaker 1: through it, but I feel like I've had the moment
Speaker 1: where like, no, you hold your head up, pie, you
Speaker 1: have a voice, you have authority, you are smart, you know.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I just I'm sure if I
Speaker 1: feel good. You are the daughter of of a queen,
Speaker 1: of a woman that showed us so much, that showed
Speaker 1: me so much that now I could you know, we've
Speaker 1: taught you guys, And I just I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: crazy because it's like you you're four years younger than me,
Speaker 1: but I I feel so freaking proud, like if it
Speaker 1: was mom, Like I I'm like, dude, this is crazy.
Speaker 1: How how things work out. And one thing I did
Speaker 1: want to also say, because I have heard like a
Speaker 1: lot of people and even family members have said that
Speaker 1: they think that I was the one that that made
Speaker 1: you step into this and and cause Johnny to do
Speaker 1: the yeah, to do the yeah, to ask for the
Speaker 1: accounting and stuff. And it was like, dude, if you
Speaker 1: guys only knew that's that's not the case. Jackie was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well things can be different. There are things that we're
Speaker 1: not happy with, and she's like maybe it's my time,
Speaker 1: and we pushed her to it. We're like, yes, if
Speaker 1: you feel like yeah, because she was always second after
Speaker 1: after the previous um trustee. She was always second, like
Speaker 1: on the will and on the trust and everything. So
Speaker 1: it was just a matter of Jackie being ready and
Speaker 1: she went in and she was honest and was like,
Speaker 1: I I don't know. I'm like, well, we're gonna help you.
Speaker 1: We're gonna put the right people. And you've done such
Speaker 1: a good job. And what I love about you and
Speaker 1: meetings that we've been at and I've been there to
Speaker 1: see is you ask questions like you're not afraid, and
Speaker 1: that's something Mom taught me, and I think that this
Speaker 1: is an important lesson for people. Like if you sit
Speaker 1: in a room and there's something you don't understand, you're like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I don't know what that means. Can
Speaker 1: you explain it to me? Like, I've seen you say that,
Speaker 1: and that's shows so much. There's so much strength and
Speaker 1: beauty in vulnerability. And I've seen you like, hey, I
Speaker 1: don't know what that means. Can you explain it? And
Speaker 1: that's beautiful Jack's because that's you learning and I've and
Speaker 1: I've am I dude, I'm like, we have meetings. You
Speaker 1: guys were like on a group chat or like on
Speaker 1: conversations and my sister's like talking all this like all
Speaker 1: this language, and I'm like, oh my god, I didn't
Speaker 1: even know that you know what I mean. So I'm
Speaker 1: learning from you. So it's it's good. And do you
Speaker 1: feel completely different from it's been a year. It's been
Speaker 1: a year since you've been in this position. You're completely like,
Speaker 1: how do you feel now? Like a year later, I feel, Um,
Speaker 1: I feel like I've the right person for the job. Um.
Speaker 1: And I didn't know that a year ago. I I
Speaker 1: remember I brought it up and I was so nervous
Speaker 1: to bring it up, to step into that place. Um,
Speaker 1: but I did it, like because I was just like, dude,
Speaker 1: like for years I knew that, Okay, you're the next
Speaker 1: person up. But I was like when I heard the
Speaker 1: previous trustee always you know, complaining, candle say like, I
Speaker 1: just don't you know, I could have always stepped up,
Speaker 1: but I didn't feel that urge. But the previous like
Speaker 1: not last year, but the year before it was just crazy.
Speaker 1: We know how crazy that was. And I was like
Speaker 1: someone used to step in and I felt it, you know,
Speaker 1: like I felt like I have to do this, and
Speaker 1: and having your guys back up obviously really really helped
Speaker 1: me believe in myself. And now a year later, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I know, it's not like I believe because believe. It's
Speaker 1: like I don't know it yet, but I believe I
Speaker 1: could do it. Now. I know now, I know, like
Speaker 1: this is where this is good. I can do this,
Speaker 1: And I feel like I'm I'm the right person for
Speaker 1: the job because it's not like I don't want to
Speaker 1: say too much because it doesn't matter with the previous people.
Speaker 1: But I feel like I have a great relationship with
Speaker 1: my siblings and it's it's like I'm just the one spearheading,
Speaker 1: but it's all of us together. It's not like I
Speaker 1: can't I don't have a good relationship and I have
Speaker 1: to figure it out on my own, you know. I
Speaker 1: just I don't know. I just I feel you don't
Speaker 1: have like what I love is like you're not on
Speaker 1: a power trip. You're not like not like an ego
Speaker 1: thing for you. Like I want to handle it with grace.
Speaker 1: And I'm not just saying it because she's my sister,
Speaker 1: you guys, But she's always praying, she doesn't make impulsive decisions.
Speaker 1: She's like always just okay, wait, let me see what
Speaker 1: my siblings think, and we we talk literally saying the
Speaker 1: table and we talk it through and sometimes if we're outnumbered,
Speaker 1: we're out numbered and we go with whoever, like whoever decided.
Speaker 1: Like we respect each other that much. And I always
Speaker 1: tell my siblings, whether I'm the oldest or not, it's like,
Speaker 1: respect your sister's position. Respect your sister. I understand you
Speaker 1: need to talk to her because she's it's a difficult
Speaker 1: thing you're a sibling. But I also tell you you
Speaker 1: are also a CEO, so you have to learn to
Speaker 1: balanced that and not let emotions because I think that's
Speaker 1: what happened previously with the previous administration is too many
Speaker 1: emotions were involved and it's like, wait, what's going to
Speaker 1: be best for the artist that you're represented? And that's hard,
Speaker 1: but I think you've you've done it very well. And
Speaker 1: because we have so much respect for each other as
Speaker 1: as a whole, that we're all like, okay, Jackie is
Speaker 1: the leader and we got to respect that. And I
Speaker 1: think that that's important. You guys, thank your sister. I
Speaker 1: really want to thank you for that because that's really
Speaker 1: empowered me. You know, you've always you know, you're the
Speaker 1: big sister, like you're the big sister. But when you've
Speaker 1: taken a decision to be like no, like you know,
Speaker 1: you've said, what does Jackie thinker, what does Jackie sayer? No,
Speaker 1: you have to tell Jackie Like, those moments have really
Speaker 1: empowered me. And I want to say thank you for that,
Speaker 1: because for me, I think I've naturally like shrunk for
Speaker 1: whatever things in my life have happened. I'm naturally just
Speaker 1: shrunk and made myself smaller. But when you make those
Speaker 1: you make it very clear that it's my position. Those
Speaker 1: you I mean unconsciously or you know, but it has
Speaker 1: empowered me. So I just want to say thank you
Speaker 1: for that. You're so welcome, sister, and I promise you
Speaker 1: I mean it, And I don't know how you do it.
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm like, I don't know would it
Speaker 1: even be, Like I don't even want to imagine, especially
Speaker 1: like right now, if I were in your position and
Speaker 1: I have no kids, like you are a full last
Speaker 1: mother of four and you're a wife, and you have
Speaker 1: your own business VI Colores and you guys check that out.
Speaker 1: We'll give them all that information afterwards. But she has
Speaker 1: her own business of T shirts that Colores and she
Speaker 1: also runs Jenny River Enterprises, and I feel like I'm busy,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, shit, how does my sister do it?
Speaker 1: There's times when she's texting me at five in the
Speaker 1: morning and I'm now starting to get up like that
Speaker 1: again now, but like, I'm like, dude, how the She's like, well,
Speaker 1: I have to work out before I go to work
Speaker 1: and have to take the kids to school. And I'm
Speaker 1: just like, She'll send us videos at seven in the
Speaker 1: morning with all the kids and they're going to school,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, how, Like, how have you managed
Speaker 1: to juggle everything, sister? Like being in such a strong
Speaker 1: position having a husband to understand that that's another thing,
Speaker 1: you know that I'm like, and I see Mike, her husband,
Speaker 1: you guys, she's I see the difference in him where
Speaker 1: he's because he lets you be Jackie and he lets
Speaker 1: you shine, And that takes a lot of balls in
Speaker 1: a man to say, I'm here, I'm gonna take care
Speaker 1: of my kids. I'm gonna let my wife do her thing,
Speaker 1: you know. And she also sings, oh my god, you guys, sister,
Speaker 1: so tell us, how do you do it? Like, honestly,
Speaker 1: I think it's a it's an accumulation of all those things,
Speaker 1: you know. Um, And now I completely understand why Mom
Speaker 1: always woke up early like that. Lady was always up
Speaker 1: before everyone, and I'm like, why doesn't she sleep? And
Speaker 1: now I understand, Like I just it's the waking up early.
Speaker 1: It's honestly having Mike. He's completely different man, and he
Speaker 1: knows that whatever it is that he has that can
Speaker 1: help me, like just be be my person. He takes
Speaker 1: that so seriously and he does it with so much
Speaker 1: love that I can have the peace of mind that
Speaker 1: you know, my kids are being taken care of. Sometimes
Speaker 1: when I have late, late days, he he handles it. Um.
Speaker 1: So it's just it's that and and really just waking
Speaker 1: up early. And more than anything, I was very afraid. Um.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to sacrifice my relationship with my kids.
Speaker 1: I know each all of us had felt that when
Speaker 1: we were growing up, and that's always been like, um,
Speaker 1: in the back of my head, even with the colts
Speaker 1: or when I made the decision to really focus on
Speaker 1: my music, I was like, I want to do this.
Speaker 1: It's my passion, it's what I love, but not at
Speaker 1: the expense of my relationship. With my children. So I've
Speaker 1: always said after six pm, there's no work. I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not working, and and it's been really hard because
Speaker 1: there's always something that's a pressing issue, the decision that
Speaker 1: needs to be made now. But I've always told myself
Speaker 1: it doesn't need to be made now. You want it
Speaker 1: to be now, but it doesn't have to be. So
Speaker 1: I could wait until tomorrow when it's work hours because
Speaker 1: I need to help. I want to be there and
Speaker 1: help Jay the study for school. Um, which I want
Speaker 1: you to know that she got honor roll again my princess. Yes,
Speaker 1: I am a proud of mother, but it's she's not
Speaker 1: God daughter. Yes. So it's it's me making the conscious
Speaker 1: decision to like after six I'm not gonna swear any
Speaker 1: phone calls for many lawyers or anything like that, or
Speaker 1: or on the weekends, like I have that time with
Speaker 1: them and it's the family time. Um. But it's just
Speaker 1: reminding myself. So scheduling, so you wake up to have
Speaker 1: me out, which is it's your time, okay, because I
Speaker 1: was going to ask you that, like because I've noted,
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, there there. You have to have a schedule,
Speaker 1: like it's it's a routine, you know, to say, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is what's going to make me Jackie happy, and
Speaker 1: then have a make time for my kids. And I
Speaker 1: think it's super awesome. She was telling me the other
Speaker 1: day we were eating or something, and she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we have She puts all of the kids phone, all
Speaker 1: of their phones at it like charging center where no
Speaker 1: one can grab it, right or something like that can explain,
Speaker 1: which I think is super cool. Yeah. So so for
Speaker 1: for me, Jayla just got her phone, so I wanted
Speaker 1: to hold it off as much as I could. But
Speaker 1: now in the age that we're living and she needs
Speaker 1: a phone. She's thirteen, which is not that bad because
Speaker 1: I think that's the age I had mine. Um, but
Speaker 1: I don't want her to be addicted to the screen.
Speaker 1: And it's also helping me not be aded to my screen.
Speaker 1: So we all charge our tablets our phones in the
Speaker 1: same section. It doesn't it's not even with me at nighttime,
Speaker 1: it's not even with her at nighttime. Everybody charges it
Speaker 1: in the same section and we get to focus on
Speaker 1: us time. So everyone is off their phone by eight
Speaker 1: and everybody knows so and wow, I think that's awesome.
Speaker 1: I think everyone should practice that. I need to do that,
Speaker 1: like I really do. I've been wanting to put my
Speaker 1: phone in my bathroom like away from me for so long,
Speaker 1: so that I'm attempted to, like, you know, like when
Speaker 1: I'm I need to go to bed, you know, and
Speaker 1: I start thinking. And then it also helps because the
Speaker 1: alarm is set up at a certain time, so I
Speaker 1: have to get up and just arm it, so I'm
Speaker 1: already out of bed, and then we have to go
Speaker 1: to the gym there also, that's good, okay, And do
Speaker 1: you do you and Mike have like date nights? Uh?
Speaker 1: We we try to our best. Mikey actually did offer
Speaker 1: to take care of the kids so that me and
Speaker 1: Mike can have a day time and we took my
Speaker 1: Varne that yeah, Mike care brother. But yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: I think that's good. I think that you are definitely
Speaker 1: in a in a much better place within your relationship.
Speaker 1: And I would just want to give us a round
Speaker 1: of applause to Mike. Hopefully here's my podcast. But I
Speaker 1: think that it's super awesome, you know, like that you
Speaker 1: freaking Mike, if you're hearing, hopefully you do. Thank you
Speaker 1: for loving my sister. And I see the change, and
Speaker 1: I love it and I'm just happy and I can't
Speaker 1: wait to go to the like you know, if you
Speaker 1: guys get married again. But we are, we are, We're
Speaker 1: going to renew our vowels and honestly, like, I'm so
Speaker 1: happy where we're at. So thank you for acknowledging that, Sister,
Speaker 1: My husband easy. But it's like how you said, like
Speaker 1: everything had to happen the way it did, and even
Speaker 1: us not being together for that long changed him, changed me.
Speaker 1: Now we came back together and separated. You were separated
Speaker 1: for three years, three years for three years, you know what.
Speaker 1: Maybe now I had got an idea you guys should
Speaker 1: come on together as a couple and talk about that
Speaker 1: if you guys wouldn't mind like having an episode of relationships,
Speaker 1: and I think we can all learn from it, you know,
Speaker 1: because yeah, a lot of people don't come back from
Speaker 1: what you guys went through. You know, like literally, you
Speaker 1: guys were separated for a while and it really did
Speaker 1: strengthen your love. And I see it. I see he's
Speaker 1: completely different. You're different. Like it's just you guys are
Speaker 1: in a great place and and I'm happy for you,
Speaker 1: which is continues to grow. But but yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and we just had a sister a spat sister day
Speaker 1: you guys. That was a few weeks ago. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was awesome and I was happy that you, like you
Speaker 1: took the time off. So it's like you're really being
Speaker 1: intentional about I'm gonna work, but I'm also going to
Speaker 1: have me days like me You're you days. I've always
Speaker 1: told you that is when you became a mom for
Speaker 1: the first time. Actually, with Genevieve, Jayla, even Jordan's, I
Speaker 1: would have to remind to, like, sister, get your nails done,
Speaker 1: like you need to like have time for you. And
Speaker 1: I see that you do. Like your nails look great,
Speaker 1: your hair looks great. You're taking care of Jackie too.
Speaker 1: That's good. Thank you, sister. Yeah, until all the mommies
Speaker 1: out there, I admire you all because I remember I
Speaker 1: remember you would always tell me, like it's important take
Speaker 1: care of yourself. Yeah, since I since they were little,
Speaker 1: my sister's no, I was the one that makes sure
Speaker 1: you shave, make sure you know your skincare, and put
Speaker 1: your blog, put on yourself there everything. Yes, so I'm
Speaker 1: still that person. So um anyways, sister, actually, yes, I
Speaker 1: do want you to plug in the colors, tell us
Speaker 1: where they can find it, where they can shop, because
Speaker 1: that's important, that's your business. Thank you so much, sister.
Speaker 1: So right now we are strictly online at the gold
Speaker 1: Threads dot com, but we're working on having it at
Speaker 1: Jennior Very Fashion in the brim all along with Cheekies
Speaker 1: and stuff check is um Merch and you know the
Speaker 1: be Flawless and then Jessica stuff. So we're trying to
Speaker 1: get all that so they can have a physical location. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm excited for that. I know that for all of
Speaker 1: us last year, at the beginning of last year, when
Speaker 1: all this huge transition started and happened, we all were
Speaker 1: going through stuff, and I know you had this huge
Speaker 1: anxiety attack to like felt I think it was distress
Speaker 1: maybe or what do you think, like because you went
Speaker 1: to the hospital like you were so stressed out right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it was it was a panic attack. Um. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that I struggled with anxiety, but apparently I do.
Speaker 1: Janica had said that being forgetful it's like anxiousness. Um.
Speaker 1: I had struggled with a lot one Mike and I
Speaker 1: were not together, but with this change, I think I
Speaker 1: put a lot of pressure on myself, and I wasn't sleeping.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of like decisions needed to be made,
Speaker 1: and I just wasn't sleeping. I wasn't, really, like you said,
Speaker 1: the importance of taking care of ourselves. I wasn't doing
Speaker 1: the things I usually do as I like making sure
Speaker 1: I'm drinking of water. Sleeping is so important, and um,
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. I remember I felt like
Speaker 1: I was like bleeding from the inside. So this was
Speaker 1: all mental though it's it's a mental thing. And and
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm dying. I'm dying, and poor my
Speaker 1: kids were there and everyone was freaking out, and Mike
Speaker 1: was like, I remember the look on his face. I
Speaker 1: was like, we have to go to the hospital. I
Speaker 1: think I'm dying. And I literally felt like all the
Speaker 1: blood and my body was coming out of me. There's
Speaker 1: nothing physical that could prove there was there. You could
Speaker 1: look at me, and I looked fine, but I felt
Speaker 1: it like the sensation of my fingers were getting tinglie
Speaker 1: and my toes were getting tingly, and I was getting dizzy.
Speaker 1: And I remember Mike rushing to the hospital and and
Speaker 1: Isabelle came to watch the kids and and and Mike
Speaker 1: couldn't get in because they wouldn't let him into the hospital. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: but I went into the hospital and they did they
Speaker 1: took my blood and everything was normal. Everything was fine.
Speaker 1: I'm healthy physically. But I was there like she hasn't slept,
Speaker 1: she's she's dying, de hydrated. She had a panic attack.
Speaker 1: I thought that I was dying, literally like it was.
Speaker 1: It was very very scary, very like I can't I
Speaker 1: I really thought I was dying. Like and I remember
Speaker 1: I was calling you. I remember I left you a
Speaker 1: voice message. Yeah, that was I was trying to call
Speaker 1: you guys to say bye to you guys because I
Speaker 1: thought I was dying. Good. It was. It was insane.
Speaker 1: And then I remember I was they put me in
Speaker 1: a wheelchair and I was looking at the lights and
Speaker 1: and I felt like if I fell asleep, I said,
Speaker 1: So I was fighting to stay awake so that I
Speaker 1: wouldn't die. But really my body wanted me to sleep,
Speaker 1: wanted me to rest. It was really crazy. It was
Speaker 1: very scary. But and how's how's your mental your mental
Speaker 1: health now? How do you are you feeling better? Do
Speaker 1: you have your feel better since that time? Mike really
Speaker 1: like he's like, okay, like you need to sleep, like
Speaker 1: because sometimes he'd let me just stay up and and
Speaker 1: I think that was when there was a switch, like
Speaker 1: he kind of like really stepped in like okay, babe,
Speaker 1: like like let's all go to sleep, let's rest, make
Speaker 1: sure you're eating, make sure, I think because I was
Speaker 1: so busy on making sure that, like I was, you know,
Speaker 1: taking care of everything. I had to take care of me.
Speaker 1: And though it was just I don't know, like it
Speaker 1: was a weird I don't know if without saying too
Speaker 1: much about what's happening in the business, like I think
Speaker 1: it was just a really stressful time and I was
Speaker 1: so consumed by that. And and now you know, it's
Speaker 1: the little changes where Mike's like we have conversations about
Speaker 1: what's going on, so that I convent because I felt
Speaker 1: like I had to take all the load to not
Speaker 1: stress you know, you guys out or or him out,
Speaker 1: and even just the pressure of like I need to
Speaker 1: make sure that I do it right I I And
Speaker 1: now now I know that I don't. I don't have
Speaker 1: to put that much pressure on me because I have
Speaker 1: your guys, like I know it, Like I think before
Speaker 1: I had this misconception of like I have to show
Speaker 1: that I'm there really working, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just myself, not that anyone made me feel that way,
Speaker 1: and I get that. So now it's it's the little
Speaker 1: things like not having my phone with me and not
Speaker 1: staying up too late, and it's all those little things.
Speaker 1: I feel better. There's moments where I obviously there's decisions
Speaker 1: that need to be made and just situations that happened.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I'm not I'm just gonna pray and
Speaker 1: give it to God, like me staying up, it's going
Speaker 1: to change the situation. Yeah. Do you feel like that
Speaker 1: was your wake up call, like where you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I need to make changes. Okay, Yeah yeah, and I didn't.
Speaker 1: Thank goodness that Mike is there to like support you
Speaker 1: and tell you, hey, um it's time to go to bed.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's all about that. It's balancing your life.
Speaker 1: Maybe you were just so far the other way that
Speaker 1: it's just finding that balance. That's one thing that is
Speaker 1: so important for your mental health, for your physical health.
Speaker 1: So so I'm like, of course scared that that happened,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, it freaks me out.
Speaker 1: But in a way, I'm like, Okay, that's God saying,
Speaker 1: hey Jack, sit down for a little bit, you know,
Speaker 1: and are you still doing therapy or like you're not right? Yeah? Yeah, okay, good, Yeah, Yes,
Speaker 1: we have therapist. Guys. It's my sister and I. She's awesome.
Speaker 1: She's so awesome, and she ends every session with the prayer.
Speaker 1: So it just makes me feel good. So you guys
Speaker 1: were huge advocates for therapy. You guys know, almost in
Speaker 1: every episode of Chick, I'm always therapy, therapy, therapy, like
Speaker 1: it's just talking and then putting it out. It's so important,
Speaker 1: you guys. So that's crazy, and I love that. I
Speaker 1: love that you're sharing that because I feel like in
Speaker 1: our generation. I feel like this generation, I don't know
Speaker 1: if we're millennials or whatever, but we're very much like
Speaker 1: take care of those issues, those internalized was the things
Speaker 1: that aren't seen. I feel like the previous generation. I
Speaker 1: remember Mom didn't believe in like depression and like she
Speaker 1: didn't believe it getting sad like get up and she
Speaker 1: didn't and obviously like maybe that's what she needed to succeed.
Speaker 1: But I like to cry. I get it all out
Speaker 1: like it's important. So I'm grateful and I feel like
Speaker 1: that's I remember, like even like Mom did not believe
Speaker 1: in organic Mom, I'm just like you know you were
Speaker 1: very much like you were the pivotal moment of like, no,
Speaker 1: this is important, and you know, I love it because
Speaker 1: now I'm healthy emotionally and all the areas. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: Mom was just like, let's just get ship done. Depressions
Speaker 1: in your mind and she didn't really get it, and
Speaker 1: I understand. It's like now it's like you said, we're
Speaker 1: about self help and self love and self growth and
Speaker 1: really like trying to get this internal part in. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I'm very proud of you. I am that I mean,
Speaker 1: and you actually my sister Jackie introduced me to my therapist.
Speaker 1: You guys, so this I mean, I had many therapists,
Speaker 1: but this last one, the one that I'm working with now.
Speaker 1: She gave me for my birthday? Was it right? You
Speaker 1: gave me a book? Um, she gave me a book
Speaker 1: which is took me way back to my tow when
Speaker 1: we lived in Compton. What is a Chicken Soup for
Speaker 1: the Soup for the for the soul? And five sessions
Speaker 1: to this therapist tanyes So and I'm so grateful. She's
Speaker 1: so awesome. I love her so much because I'm glad.
Speaker 1: I've been telling sometimes like Tanya and talk to you.
Speaker 1: Can you take me today? She's like okay, yes, five PM.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, perfect, thank you. So um not only
Speaker 1: like I said you guys, is my sister, a mother,
Speaker 1: a wife for CEO she has, She's an entrepreneur. She
Speaker 1: also is a singer, a very talented singer, beautiful singer.
Speaker 1: I have been her fans since the first time I
Speaker 1: heard her sing and also at church. She has the
Speaker 1: voice of an angel. Um. So, what's going on with
Speaker 1: their music? Well, I am working on my album. Um up,
Speaker 1: I'm working on it. I I'm balancing everything I'm doing
Speaker 1: with my album. And that's more of a gift to
Speaker 1: myself because I kind of for some reason, I was
Speaker 1: wrote off singing like I'm like, I'm not gonna do this.
Speaker 1: I love it, but I'm not gonna do it. I'm
Speaker 1: afraid of the business. But I think now, like I
Speaker 1: made my two or three years ago, I just said,
Speaker 1: don't know, I need to do this album and just
Speaker 1: do it for myself, like show myself that I could
Speaker 1: do it, and then you know, life through curveballs and
Speaker 1: then positions shifted and changed. But I'm like, no, I
Speaker 1: can't let that slip away. So we're almost done. I
Speaker 1: don't have like a date or anything yet, but um,
Speaker 1: I am working. Oh my god, I'm so excited. I
Speaker 1: have to tell you, guys, I didn't know she was
Speaker 1: working on an actual album, but actually did show me
Speaker 1: like a song. We had a sibling meeting a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago and she showed me a song, you guys,
Speaker 1: and I was like floored. I was like, what it.
Speaker 1: You've always been an amazing finger at jack, but this
Speaker 1: is another level and this song is so wow, one
Speaker 1: of my favorite songs. I don't know, I just cannot.
Speaker 1: I can't wait for you guys to hear it. So
Speaker 1: I'm so happy they're working on this album. You know me, sister,
Speaker 1: we're going to have to have an album release party,
Speaker 1: you know. Oh my gosh, oh my god. Can you
Speaker 1: give us a little hint as to what kind of music.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's bilingual and it's like alternative, like rock. It's
Speaker 1: so fucking awesome. You guys are counting for you to
Speaker 1: hear it, and people are always asking sister for a
Speaker 1: cheek ease and Jackie song. And I know, dude, yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't every all the time, so we need to
Speaker 1: do it O say yeah, I mean the moment you
Speaker 1: got and I have a song in mind. I'll share
Speaker 1: that with you later because it has a bit surprise.
Speaker 1: But Jackie and I have a little surprise coming. We
Speaker 1: can't tell you how or what, but it's coming. It's
Speaker 1: already done. Um so, but we do need to do
Speaker 1: you something, you and I something like super different it
Speaker 1: so I would love that. And I just want to
Speaker 1: say thank you for believing in me, sister. Why am
Speaker 1: I still emotional? Yes, I promise. Um. I just want
Speaker 1: to say thank you for believing in me. I know
Speaker 1: that it hasn't been easy because people are so cruel
Speaker 1: and negative and have tried to put us against each other,
Speaker 1: especially on the music side. Um. And I always tell
Speaker 1: people like my sister has something else, like you have
Speaker 1: this grace and charisma and the stage presence and your
Speaker 1: voice has grown. But I just want to say thank
Speaker 1: you for supporting me and even like inviting me to
Speaker 1: be part of the concert in Nanaheim, like that did
Speaker 1: something in me of like I actually do like I
Speaker 1: love this, you know, so just it's every little thing.
Speaker 1: So I just I just want to say thank you,
Speaker 1: and I really appreciate you being the best big sister
Speaker 1: and just backing me and supporting me even when people
Speaker 1: try to stupid. Yes, people can be a holes. But
Speaker 1: you know, I've learned, and it's taken me a while
Speaker 1: because for a long time I did feel like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, my sister has a better voice than me,
Speaker 1: and maybe this is what I'm supposed to do. We
Speaker 1: just have different voices. That's what I've learned. We have
Speaker 1: different voices, and I've learned to embrace my voice. And
Speaker 1: my voice is different, and I have my own light
Speaker 1: to shine and she has her own light to shine.
Speaker 1: And it's not about competing or being better than each
Speaker 1: other or one another or it's about just embracing each
Speaker 1: other's talent, like knowing that I have something special and
Speaker 1: so does she, and so does my mom and so
Speaker 1: does everyone else. And people need to stop comparing and
Speaker 1: putting people against each other. That's just so not cool.
Speaker 1: Like people are like Okay, Beyonce, Arihanna or Drake and
Speaker 1: like it's it's like, dude, it's always always Michael Jackson
Speaker 1: her prints like dude got again, Like I everyone has
Speaker 1: their own thing, like just stop with that. Like, and
Speaker 1: I'm not going to allow anyone's comment or anything to
Speaker 1: come between us. I embrace you completely as my baby sister,
Speaker 1: as an artist, like I admire you, and I admire
Speaker 1: so many other women. Why wouldn't I admire my own sister?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I think, do you remember
Speaker 1: anything embarrassing, sister about like our child said, anything that
Speaker 1: you want to share, like something, I mean, besides the
Speaker 1: time that you were I was running around naked that
Speaker 1: we shared on Santa's podcast. But I'm trying to think what, Oh, sister, Yes,
Speaker 1: I don't know if we said the story before. Come
Speaker 1: on tell them that. Yes, I don't even remember that
Speaker 1: but her poop, yes, guys, Okay, so fine, I'll tell
Speaker 1: the story. Go friends. Okay. So we lived in Compton
Speaker 1: and it was our house on Keene Street and Compton
Speaker 1: and um my mom and dad had just gotten back
Speaker 1: together and anyways, so our water wasn't working. My I
Speaker 1: don't know if mom forgot to pay the water bill
Speaker 1: or what happened, but the water was not working. So
Speaker 1: I woke up and I pooped. I was like five
Speaker 1: or something like that. Mom told, yeah, my mom told
Speaker 1: me not to poop, but hey, I'm five years old.
Speaker 1: I had a poop. So I got up and secretly
Speaker 1: went to the bathroom. And I remember seeing my mom
Speaker 1: and my dad on the couch and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna walk real slowly, took little poop. I
Speaker 1: went back to my room and there goes little She's
Speaker 1: most jack Jackie. There goes Jackie and goes after what
Speaker 1: did my sister go do? I went to the toilet
Speaker 1: and grabbed my little poop and it, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: She literally was like I remember. I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, Jackie is sid in her in her bed
Speaker 1: and I was like, went to go. Look, you were
Speaker 1: in the toilet, on the toilet like literally had the
Speaker 1: settle thing. Sorry, that's such ad the poop in her hand,
Speaker 1: and she was like biting on it like it was
Speaker 1: a Snickers. You guys, I just got girls stout disgusting
Speaker 1: And then as a mom, like I put myself in
Speaker 1: that position and like with no water to clean me,
Speaker 1: there was no am like I'm sorry I had ap
Speaker 1: in there. Oh, but you weren't taking you a care
Speaker 1: of your sister. And I'm like, oh my gosh. But anyways,
Speaker 1: that's a little story you guys. I swear I know
Speaker 1: Mom was pissed. Oh my god. Sorry. Johnny's here too.
Speaker 1: He's he's He's the one that reminded me of the
Speaker 1: poop story. Um, but you want to know something funny.
Speaker 1: So Jeneteve has bangs. My my second daughter has bangs,
Speaker 1: and I made me think of you, and they were
Speaker 1: like just all up in her face. They've they've grown out.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm just gonna try to cut them, bro,
Speaker 1: And it made me think, like her brains are now
Speaker 1: above her eyebrows and her twick and it made me
Speaker 1: think of the time that you did that. I mean
Speaker 1: to you, it's because you're the secret is if you're
Speaker 1: gonna cut bangs, you guys, don't do it when the
Speaker 1: hair is wet. I was terrible, Yeah, because once they so,
Speaker 1: they're like twickles. I'll send you a picture. They're like
Speaker 1: my messed up. One side is higher than the other.
Speaker 1: And I remember when you did that. I'm just like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: I mean whatever. But she's so kind, she's so sweet.
Speaker 1: She's like it's okay, mom me like, you can tell
Speaker 1: she's unhappy, but she like, it's okay, Mommy. They're going
Speaker 1: to grow out. Oh she's so sweet, My Jenny. We
Speaker 1: can just straighten them, just pin them back. That's what
Speaker 1: I did with you. I just could pick them back
Speaker 1: for a long time. But you, guys, I hope you
Speaker 1: really enjoyed this episode. I definitely did, sister. Thank you
Speaker 1: for your time. Um. I love this conversation with so
Speaker 1: healing from my heart and hopefully people can listen to
Speaker 1: it and learn from us, and learn from you especially,
Speaker 1: and know that we're good. You and I are very
Speaker 1: good and we have been for a long time. And
Speaker 1: f the naysayers, f them, and to all my cheek
Speaker 1: ease and chill listeners. You guys know I always end
Speaker 1: my episodes with a quote, one or two, you know,
Speaker 1: So here's a quote. Sisters don't need words to understand
Speaker 1: each other. They have did their own secret language of smiles, sniffs,
Speaker 1: size gasps, winks, and eye rolls. It's very true. Another
Speaker 1: one the greatest gift our parents ever gave us was
Speaker 1: each other. So thank you parents. Those are the two quotes,
Speaker 1: you guys, Oh my gosh, thank you so much. For
Speaker 1: for being with me and I love you, sister, and
Speaker 1: I'll see you so much. I love you with all
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