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Speaker 2: I'm so grateful for this moment. I'm glad that we're

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Speaker 2: setting it straight because people need to know. I was

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Speaker 1: Now you're a CEO of Jenny Rivera Enterprises.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I was the right person for the job,

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Speaker 2: and I didn't know that a year ago.

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Speaker 1: Sisters, so tell us, how do you do it now?

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Speaker 2: I completely understand why mom always woke up early. That

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Speaker 1: Hello, my beautiful people, come with Stan Mispitlek, Stan Muivian.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's episode of Cheeky's and Chill. I'm so,

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Speaker 1: so so happy you're here today. I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: joined by one of my siblings to talk about our

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Speaker 1: relationship and how she juggles being a mom, a wife,

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Speaker 1: and the CEO of Jenny Rivera Enterprises. I think you're

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Speaker 1: really enjoy this episode, so let's get right into it.

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Speaker 1: This is Chicky's and Chill, you guys. I am so

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Speaker 1: excited to have my sister, Jackie Rivera compos That's correct, my.

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Speaker 2: Sister, yes, Jackie river Yes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, perfect because she is married my sister, so

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Speaker 1: we don't hear from Jackie too often. So this is

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Speaker 1: a very rare and amazing opportunity. So Jackie, welcome to

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, sister, Thank you big. I'm so happy

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Speaker 1: Oh of course I love you. I'm so happy we

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Speaker 1: doesn't spell her name like regular Jackie's like j A

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Speaker 2: Thank you, sister, thank you for putting some respect on

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Speaker 1: I know sometimes she was here at my house the

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Speaker 1: It's very you, very cute. Jackie has always been different. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I'm the eldest, and Jackie and I are about

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Speaker 2: And you were like, I don't give a damn.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh, I don't give a damn. She would go

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so grateful for this moment because it is frustrating,

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Speaker 2: I'm glad that we're setting it straight, yes, because people

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know, my very first best friend, my very

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Speaker 1: So hopefully if you guys haven't read the book and

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Speaker 2: For years I knew that, Okay, you're the next person up.

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Speaker 1: I just feel you don't have like what I love

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Speaker 2: make it very clear that it's my position. Those you

430
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 2: maybe unconsciously or you know, but it has empowered me.

431
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 2: So I just want to say thank you for that.

432
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,639
Speaker 1: You're so welcome, sister, and I promise you I mean it,

433
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 1: And I don't know how you do it. That's why

434
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, would it even be like

435
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 1: I don't even want to imagine, especially like right now,

436
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,720
Speaker 1: if I were in your position and I have no kids,

437
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,360
Speaker 1: like you are a full ass mother of four, and

438
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,879
Speaker 1: you're a wife, and you have your own business declores

439
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 1: and you guys, check that out. We'll give them all

440
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,159
Speaker 1: that information afterwards. But she has her own business of

441
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,440
Speaker 1: T shirts, the Colores, and she also runs Jenny River Enterprises,

442
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 1: and I feel like I'm busy, but I'm like, shit,

443
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,360
Speaker 1: how does my sister do it? There's times when she's

444
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 1: texting me at five in the morning and I'm now

445
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,119
Speaker 1: starting to get up like that again now, but like,

446
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, how she's like what, I have to

447
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:48,919
Speaker 1: work out before I go to work and have to

448
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 1: take the kids to school. And I'm just like, She'll

449
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 1: send us videos at seven in the morning with all

450
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 1: the kids and they're going to school, and I'm just like, how, Like,

451
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 1: how have you managed to juggle everything?

452
00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 2: Sister?

453
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 1: Like being in such a strong position having a husband

454
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 1: to understand that that's another thing you know that I'm like,

455
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 1: and I see Mike, her husband, you guys, she's I

456
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,639
Speaker 1: see the difference in him where he's he lets you

457
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 1: be Jackie and he lets you shine. And that takes

458
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: a lot of balls in a man to say, yeah,

459
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm gonna take care of my kids. I'm

460
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 1: gonna let my wife do her thing, you know. And

461
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 1: she also sings, Oh my god, you guys sister, so

462
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,159
Speaker 1: tell us, how do you do it?

463
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 2: Like, honestly, I think it's a It's an accumulation of

464
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,120
Speaker 2: all those things, you know, And now I completely understand

465
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 2: why Mom always woke up early like that. Lady was

466
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 2: always up before everyone, and I'm like, why doesn't she sleep?

467
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 2: And now I understand, like I just it's the waking

468
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 2: up early. It's honestly, having Mike, he's one completely different man,

469
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 2: and he knows that whatever it is that he has

470
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 2: that can help me, like just be my person. He

471
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 2: takes that so seriously and he does it with so

472
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 2: much love that I can have the peace of mine that,

473
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 2: you know, my kids are being taken care of. Sometimes

474
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: when I have late late days, he handles it. So

475
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 2: it's just it's that and really just waking up early.

476
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 2: And more than anything, I was very afraid. I didn't

477
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 2: want to sacrifice my relationship with my kids. I know

478
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 2: each all of us had felt that when we were

479
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: growing up, and that's always been like in the back

480
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 2: of my head, even with the golodes or when I

481
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 2: made the decision to really focus on my music. I

482
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 2: was like, I want to do this, it's my passion,

483
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 2: it's what I love, but not at the expense of

484
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 2: my relationship with my children. So I've always said, after

485
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,360
Speaker 2: six pm, there's no work. I'm not working, and it's

486
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 2: been really hard because there's always something that's a pressing issue,

487
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 2: a decision that needs to be made now. But I've

488
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 2: always told myself it doesn't need to be made now.

489
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 2: You want it to be now, but it doesn't have

490
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 2: to be So I could wait until tomorrow and it's

491
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 2: work hours because I need to help. I want to

492
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: be there to help Jaila study for school, which I

493
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 2: want you to know that she got on a roll again.

494
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: So my princess.

495
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 2: Yes, I have a proud mother, but it's she's my goddaughter,

496
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 2: you guys. Yes, So it's it's me making the conscious

497
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 2: decision to like, after six I'm not gonna answer any

498
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 2: phone calls from many lawyers or anything like that, or

499
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 2: or on the weekends, like I have that time with

500
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 2: them and it's the family time. But it's just reminding myself.

501
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 1: So scheduling so you wake up there one yes to

502
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 1: have me work out, which is it's your you time. Okay, yeah,

503
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: because I was going to ask you that, like, because

504
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: I've noticed, I'm like, okay, there there. You have to

505
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: have a schedule, like it's it's a routine, you know,

506
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: to say, Okay, this is what's going to make me

507
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: Jackie happy, and then make time for my kids. And

508
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: I think it's super awesome. She was telling me the

509
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 1: other day we were eating or something, and she's like, yeah,

510
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: we have she puts all of the kid's phone, all

511
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 1: of their phones at it like charging center where no

512
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: one can grab it, right or something like that. Can

513
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: you explain that, which I think is super cool.

514
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 2: Yeah. So so for me, Jayla just got her phone,

515
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 2: so I wanted to hold it off as much as

516
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 2: I could. But now in the age that we're living,

517
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 2: and she needs a fallow. She's thirteen, which is not

518
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: that bad because I think that's the age I had mine.

519
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: But I don't want her to be addicted to the screen.

520
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 2: And it's also helping me not be addicted to my screen.

521
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: So we all charge our tablets, our phones in the

522
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: same section. It doesn't need it's not even with me

523
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 2: at nighttime, it's not even with her at nighttime, everybody

524
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 2: charges it in the same section and we get to

525
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 2: focus on us time, so everyone is off their phone

526
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 2: by eight pm. And it's a rule everybody knows.

527
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: Yes, So and wow, I think that's awesome. I think

528
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 1: everyone should practice that. I need to do that, like

529
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: I really do. I've been wanting to put my phone

530
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: in my bathroom, like away from me for so long

531
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: so that I'm not tempted to like, you know, like

532
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 1: when I'm I need to go to bed, you know

533
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: and start thinking.

534
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 2: And then it also helps because the alarm is set

535
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: up at a certain time, so I have to get

536
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: up and disarm it, so I'm already out of bed. Yeah,

537
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 2: and then we have to go to the gym.

538
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: There also, that's good, okay, And do you do you

539
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 1: and Mike have like date nights?

540
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: Er? We we try to our best Mikey actually did

541
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 2: offer to take care of the kids so that me

542
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 2: and Mike can have a daytime and we took my

543
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 2: arm to that. Yeah, Mike here brother, But yeah.

544
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: For sure, I think that's good. I think that you

545
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: are definitely in a much better place within your relationship.

546
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: And I just want to give a round of applause.

547
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 1: To Mike, hopefully here's my podcast. But I think that

548
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: it's super awesome, you know, like that you freaking Mike,

549
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: if you're hearing, hopefully you do. Thank you for loving

550
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: my sister. And I see the change and I love it,

551
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: and I'm just happy and I can't wait to go

552
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: to the like you know, if you guys get married again.

553
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: But we are, we are, We're gonna renew our vowels

554
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 2: and honestly, like, I'm so happy where we're at. So

555
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 2: thank you for acknowledging that sister my husband. But it's

556
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 2: like high you said, like everything had to happen the

557
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,479
Speaker 2: way it did, and even us not being together for

558
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 2: that long changed him, changed me. Now we came back

559
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: together and.

560
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: Or just separating. You were separated for three years, three

561
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: years for three years. You know what, maybe now I've

562
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: got an idea you guys should come on together as

563
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: a couple and talk about that if you guys wouldn't

564
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 1: mind like having an episode of relationships, and I think

565
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: we can all learn from it, you know, because yeah,

566
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't come back from what you

567
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 1: guys went through. You know, like literally, you guys were

568
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: separated for a while and it really did strengthen your love.

569
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: And I see it. I see he's completely different. You're different.

570
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: Like it's just you guys are in a great place

571
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: and I'm happy for you, but just continues to grow.

572
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: But thank you.

573
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, and we just had a sister

574
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 1: a spall sister day, you guys. That was a few

575
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Yeah, that was awesome, and I was happy

576
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: that you, like you took the time off. So it's

577
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: like you're really being intentional about I'm going to work,

578
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: but I'm also going to have me days, like maybe

579
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: you're you days. I've always told you that because when

580
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: you became a mom for the first time, actually with Genevieve, Jyla,

581
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: even Jordan and I would have to remind you, like, sister,

582
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: get your nails done, like you need to like have

583
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: time for you. And I see that you do. Like

584
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: your nails look great, your hair looks great. You're taking

585
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: care of Jackie too. That's good.

586
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 2: Thank you, sister.

587
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, until all the mommies out there, I admire you

588
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: all because.

589
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: I remember I remember you'd always tell me, like it's important,

590
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 2: take care of yourself.

591
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: Like important. Yeah, since they were little, my sisters, no

592
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: I was the one that make sure you shave, make

593
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: sure you know your skincare, and put on your sun blog,

594
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: put on everything. Yes, so I'm still that person. So anyways, sister, actually, yes,

595
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,719
Speaker 1: I do want you to plug in the colores tell

596
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: us where they can find it, where they can shop,

597
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 1: because that's important, that's your business.

598
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, sister. So right now we are

599
00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 2: strictly online at the gold Threads dot com, but we're

600
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: working on having it at Jenny Vera Fashion and the

601
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: Braham all along with Cheeky's the stuff, Cheeese's merch and

602
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: you know, to be Flawless and then Jenica's stuff. So

603
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: we're trying to get all that so they can have

604
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: a physical location. Yay.

605
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: I'm excited for that. I know that for all of

606
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: us last year, the beginning of last year, when all

607
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: this huge transition started and happened, we all were going

608
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: through stuff. And I know you had this huge anxiety

609
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: attack too, like I felt. I think it was distress

610
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: maybe or what do you think, like because you went

611
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: to the hospital like you were so stressed out right.

612
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was it was a panic attack. I

613
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: didn't know that. I struggled with anxiety, but apparently I do.

614
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: Janica had said that being forgetful it's like anxiousness. I

615
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: had struggled with a lot when Mike and I were

616
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: not together, but with this change, I think I put

617
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: a lot of pressure on myself and I wasn't sleeping.

618
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: There was a lot of like decisions needed to be made,

619
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: and I just wasn't sleeping. I wasn't, really, like you said,

620
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: the importance of taking care of ourselves, I wasn't doing

621
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,719
Speaker 2: the things I usually do as I'm like making sure

622
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: I'm drinking off water. Sleeping is so important. And I

623
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: don't know what happened. I remember I felt like I

624
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: was like bleeding from the inside. So this was all

625
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: mental though it's a mental thing, and I was like,

626
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: I'm dying. I'm dying, and poor my kids were there

627
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: and everyone was freaking out, and Mike was like I

628
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: can remember the look on his face. I was like,

629
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: we have to go to the hospital. I think I'm dying.

630
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: And I literally felt like all the blood in my

631
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: body was coming out of me. There's nothing physical that

632
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: could prove there was. There's you could look at me,

633
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: and I looked fine, but I felt it like the

634
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: sensation of my fingers were getting tingly, and my toes

635
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,719
Speaker 2: were getting tingly, and I was getting dizzy. And I

636
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: remember my rushing to the hospital, and Isabelle came to

637
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: watch the kids, and and and Mike couldn't get in

638
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: because they wouldn't let him into the hospital. Yeah. But

639
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: I went into the hospital and they did They took

640
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: my blood and everything was normal. Everything was fine. I'm

641
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: healthy physically. But I was there like, she hasn't slept,

642
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: She's she's dying, dehydrated. She had a panic attack. I

643
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: thought that I was dying, literally like it was. It

644
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: was very very scary, felt very real, very like I

645
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 2: can't I. I really thought I was dying, like and

646
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: I remember I was calling you. I remember I left

647
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: you a voice message. Yeah, I was trying to call

648
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: you guys to say bye to you guys because I

649
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: thought I was dying.

650
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: My god, Jackie, Yes, it was.

651
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: It was insane. And then I remember I was They

652
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: put me in a wheelchair and I was looking at

653
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: the lights and and I felt like if I fell asleep,

654
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: I would know you what I say. So I was

655
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: fighting to stay awake so that I wouldn't die. But really,

656
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: my body wanted me to sleep, wanted me to rest.

657
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: It was really crazy. It was very scary.

658
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: But and how's how's your mental your mental health now?

659
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: How do you are you feeling better? Do you have

660
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: your eyes?

661
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: I feel better since that time. Mike really like he's like, okay,

662
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 2: like you need to sleep, like because sometimes he'd let

663
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: me just stay up. And and I think that was

664
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: when there was a switch, like he kind of like

665
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: really stepped in be like okay, babe, like it's time,

666
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: like let's all go to sleep, let's rest, make sure

667
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: you're eating, make sure, I think because I was so

668
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: busy on making sure that, like I was, you know,

669
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: taking care of everything. I had to take care of

670
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: comune though it was just I don't know, like it

671
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: was a weird I don't know if without saying too

672
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: much about what's happening in the business, like, I think

673
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: it was just a really stressful time and I was

674
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: so consumed by that. And and now you know, it's

675
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: the little changes where Mike's like we have conversations about

676
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: what's going on so that I can vent because I

677
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: felt like I had to take all a load to

678
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: not stress. You know, you guys out or or him out,

679
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: and even just the pressure of like I need to

680
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: make sure that I do it right I I I

681
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: now now I know that I don't. I don't have

682
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: to put that much pressure on me because I have

683
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: your guys as one hundred percent, like I know it.

684
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: Like I think before I had this misconception of like

685
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: I have to show that I'm not really working, you know,

686
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just myself, not that anyone made

687
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: me feel that way.

688
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: No, And I get that.

689
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: So now it's I it's the little things like not

690
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: having my phone with me and not staying up too late,

691
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 2: and it's all those little things. I feel better. There's

692
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: moments where I obviously there's decisions that need to be

693
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 2: made and just situations that happened. But I'm like, I'm

694
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: not I'm just gonna pray and give it to God,

695
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: like me staying up isn't gonna change the situation.

696
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you feel like that was your wake up call,

697
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: like where you're like, Okay, I need to make changes, Okay?

698
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

699
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and thank goodness that Mike is there to like

700
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: support you and tell you, hey, it's time to go

701
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: to bed. I think, yeah, it's all about that it's

702
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: balancing your life. Maybe you were just so far the

703
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: other way, but it's just finding that balance. That's one

704
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: thing that is so important for your mental health for

705
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: your physical health. So so I'm like, of course scared

706
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: that that happened, and I'm like, oh my god, it

707
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: freaks me out. But in a way, I'm like, Okay,

708
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: that's God saying, hey, Jack, sit down for a little bit,

709
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: you know, and are you still doing therapy or like

710
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: you're not right?

711
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

712
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, good Yeah Tanya.

713
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: Yes, Tanya's amazing therapist.

714
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: Guys. My sister and I y is awesome. She's so

715
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: awesome and she ends every session with the prayers. It

716
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: just makes me feel good. So, you guys, we're huge

717
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: advocates for for therapy. You guys know, almost in every

718
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: episode of Cheki's and Hil, I'm always therapy therapy there

719
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: be like it's just talking and and letting it out.

720
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: It's so important, you guys.

721
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: So that's crazy, and I love that. I love that

722
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: you're sharing that because I feel like in our generation,

723
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: I feel like this generation, I don't know if we're

724
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: in millennials or whatever, but we're very much of like

725
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 2: take care of those issues, those internal issues, the things

726
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: that aren't seen. I feel like the previous generation. I

727
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: remember Mom didn't believe in like if depression and like

728
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 2: she didn't believe in getting sad, like get up, and

729
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 2: she didn't and obviously like maybe that's what she needed

730
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: to succeed. But I like to cry, I get it

731
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: all out, like it's important. So I'm grateful and I

732
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 2: feel like that's I remember, like even like Mom did

733
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 2: not believe in organic Mom didn't. I'm just like, you know,

734
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 2: you were very much like me. You were the pivotal

735
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: moment of like, no, this is important, and you know,

736
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: I love it because now I'm healthy emotionally and all

737
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: there is.

738
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Mom was just like, let's just get shit done. Uh,

739
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: no depressions in your mind and she didn't really get it,

740
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 1: and I understand. It's like now it's like you said,

741
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 1: we're about self help and self love and self growth

742
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: and really like trying to get this internal part. And yeah,

743
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: so I'm very proud of you. I am that the

744
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 1: matter I mean, and you introduced actually, my sister Jackie

745
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: introduced me to my therapist. You guys, so this I mean,

746
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: I had many therapists. But this last one, the one

747
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: that I'm working with now, she gave me for my birthday.

748
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: Was it right? You gave me a book? She gave

749
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: me a book which is took me way back to

750
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: my to when we lived in Compton. What a chicken

751
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 1: soup for the soul, for the soul and five sessions

752
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: to this therapist, Tanya So and I'm so grateful. She's

753
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: so awesome. I love her so much. I'm I've been

754
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: telling her. I'm like, Tanya, need to talk to you.

755
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: Can you take me today? She's like, okay, yes, five pm.

756
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, perfect, thank you.

757
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 2: She'll take it. I love it.

758
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. So not only like I said you guys, is

759
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: my sister, a mother, a wife, a CEO. She has,

760
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: She's an entrepreneur. She also is a singer, a very

761
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: talented singer and beautiful singer. I have been her fan

762
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: since the first time I heard her sing and also

763
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: at church. She has the voice of an angel. So

764
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: what's going on with their music?

765
00:35:54,160 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 2: Well, I am working on my album. I'm working on it.

766
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 2: I I'm balancing everything I'm doing with my album. And

767
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: that's more of a gift to myself because I kind

768
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 2: of For some reason, I always wrote off singing like

769
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not going to do this. I love it,

770
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: but I'm not going to do it. I'm afraid of

771
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: the business. But I think now, like I made my

772
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: two or three years ago, I just said, you know,

773
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: I need to do this album and just do it

774
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: for myself, like show myself that I could do it.

775
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: And then you know, life through curveballs, and then positions

776
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: shifted and changed. But I'm like, no, I can't let

777
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: that slip away. So we're almost done. I don't have

778
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 2: like a date or anything yet, yeah, but I am

779
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: working on it.

780
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: Awesome. Oh my god. As a fan, I'm so excited.

781
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, guys, I didn't know if

782
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: she was working on an actual album, but actually did

783
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: show me like a song. We had a sibling meeting

784
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago and she showed me a song

785
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: you guys, and I was like floored. I was like,

786
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: what it. You've always been an amazing singer, Jax, but

787
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: thank you, this is another level and this song is

788
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: so wow, one of my favorite songs. I don't know,

789
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: I just cannot. I can't wait for you guys to

790
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: hear it. So I'm so happy were working on an album.

791
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: You know me, sister, We're gonna have to have an

792
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: album release party, you know.

793
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, oh my god.

794
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: Okay, can you give us a little hint as to

795
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: what kind of music.

796
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: Maybe it's bilingual mm hmm, and it's like alternative, like rock. Dude.

797
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: It's so fucking awesome, you guys. I can't wait for

798
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: you to hear it. And people are always asking sister

799
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: for a Cheeky's and Jackie song, and I know, dude, Yeah,

800
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: I haven't everybody all the time, so we need to

801
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: do it. Oh say yeah. I mean the moments. But

802
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: you got on a momento perfect though, And I have

803
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: a song in mind. I'll share that with you later

804
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: because it has to be surprise. But Jackie and I

805
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: have a little surprise coming. We can't tell you how

806
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: or what, but it's coming. It's already done, so but

807
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: we do need to do you something, you and I

808
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: something like super different.

809
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: I would love that. And I just want to say

810
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 2: thank you for believing in me, sister. Of course I

811
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: know that. Why am I so emotional?

812
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: The yes?

813
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: I promise? I just want to say thank you for

814
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: believing in me. I know that it hasn't been easy

815
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: because people are so cruel and negative and have tried

816
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: to put us against each other, especially on the music side. Yeah,

817
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 2: and I always tell people like my sister has something else,

818
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: like you have this grace and charisma and the stage

819
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 2: prisons and your voice has grown. But I just want

820
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: to say thank you for supporting me and even like

821
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: inviting me to be part of the concert in Anaheim,

822
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: like that did something in me of like I actually

823
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: do like I love this, you know, so just it's

824
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: every little thing, so I just I just want to

825
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: say thank you, and I really appreciate you being the

826
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: best big sister and just backing me and supporting me

827
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: even when people try to the stupid.

828
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: Yes, some people can be a holes. But you know,

829
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: I've learned, and it's taken me a while because for

830
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 1: a long time I did feel like, oh my gosh,

831
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: my sister has a better voice than me, and maybe

832
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: this is what I'm supposed to do. We just have

833
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: different voices. That's what I've learned. We have different voices,

834
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 1: and I've learned to embrace my voice and my voice

835
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: is different and I have my own light to shine,

836
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: and she has her own light to shine. And it's

837
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: not about competing or being better than each other or

838
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: one another, or it's about just embracing each other's talent

839
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: person like knowing that I have something special and so

840
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: does she, and so does my mom and so does

841
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: everyone else. And people need to stop comparing and putting

842
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: people against each other. That's just so not cool. Like

843
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: people are like Okay, Beyonce, Arihanna or Drake and like

844
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: it's it's like, dude, it's always that, always Michael Jackson

845
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: or prints, like dude, got a Cain, Like I everyone

846
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: has their own thing, Like just stop with that, Like,

847
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to allow anyone's comments or anything

848
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: to come between us. I embrace you completely as my

849
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: baby's sister, as an artist, like I admire you, and

850
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 1: I admire so many other women. Why wouldn't I admire

851
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: my own sister?

852
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

853
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: Do you remember anything embarrassing, sister about like our childhood,

854
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 1: anything that you want to share, like something, I mean,

855
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: besides the time that you were I was running around

856
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: naked that we shared on Jenfa's But I'm trying to think, what, oh, sister, Yes,

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00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if we've said this story before. Come on,

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00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: Tom that you.

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00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: I don't even remember that, but I hate her poop.

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00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 1: Yes, guys, Okay, so I'll tell the story.

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00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: Go friend.

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00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: Okay. So we lived in Compton, and it was our

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00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: house on Keene Street in Compton, and my mom and

864
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: dad had just gotten back together and anyways, so jack

865
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: and our water wasn't working. I don't know if mom

866
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: forgot to pay the water bill or what happened, but

867
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: the water was not working. So I woke up and

868
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: I pooped. I was like five or something like that.

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00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 2: Mom told me I'm not to poop.

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00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, my mom told me not to poop, but hey,

871
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: I'm five years old. I had a poop. So I

872
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: got up and secretly went to the bathroom, and I

873
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: remember seeing my mom and my dad on the couch

874
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: and I was just like, I'm just gonna walk real slowly,

875
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: took a little poop, went back to my room, and

876
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: there goes little She's most Jackie. There goes Jackie and

877
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: goes after what did my sister go do? Went to

878
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: the toilet and grabbed my little poop and ate it.

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00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: She literally was like I remember I was like, oh

881
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: my god, Jackie's not in her in her bed and

882
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: I was like, when to go. Look, you were in

883
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: the toilet, on the toilet like literally had the saddle thing. Sorry,

884
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: that's such a one. Had the poop in her hand

885
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: and she was like biting on it like it was

886
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: the snickers.

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00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: You guys. Oh, I just got a girls style disgusting.

888
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: And then as a mom, like I put myself in

889
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 2: that position, I'm like, God, with.

890
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: No water to clean me, there was no almost so paste.

891
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 2: I was so mad.

892
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm sorry I had a poop in

893
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: there so much. You weren't taking a carry your sister,

894
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my gosh. But anyways, that's a

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00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: little story, guys.

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00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: I swear I.

897
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 1: Know mom was pissed. Oh my god. Sorry. Johnny's here too,

898
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: He's he's He's the one that reminded me of the

899
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: poop story.

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00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: But you want to know something funny, what so Genevieve

901
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: has bangs. My my second daughter has bangs, and I

902
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 2: made me think of you, and they were like just

903
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: all up in her face. They've they've grown out. So

904
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm just gonna try to cut them, uh,

905
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: brol No, and it made me think, like her brains

906
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 2: are now above her eyebrows and twig, and it made

907
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: me think of the time that you did that.

908
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 1: I mean that to you. It's because you're the secret

909
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: is if you're gonna cut bangs, you guys, don't do

910
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: it when the hair is wet. It was terrible, yeah,

911
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: because once they so, they're like all twickles there.

912
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: Twig, I'll send you a picture. They're like one side

913
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: is higher than the other. And I remember when you

914
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: did that. I'm just like, okay, well, I mean whatever.

915
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: But she's so kind, she's so sweet. She's like, it's okay, mommy.

916
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: Like you can tell she's unhappy, but she like, it's okay, mommy.

917
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 2: They're gonna grow out.

918
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: Oh she's so sweet, My Jenny.

919
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: We can just straighten them.

920
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: Oh god, oh just pin them back. That's what I

921
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: did with you. I just would pin them back for

922
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: a long time. But you, guys, I hope you really

923
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: enjoyed this episode. I definitely did. Sister, Thank you for

924
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 1: your time. I love this conversation. It was so healing

925
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: from my heart and hopefully people can listen to it

926
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: and learn from us and learn from you especially, and

927
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: know that we're good. You and I are very good

928
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: and we have been for a long time. And f

929
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: the naysayers.

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00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 2: F them.

931
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: And to all my Cheeky's and Chill listeners. You guys

932
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: know I always end my episodes with a quote, one

933
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: or two you know, So here's a quote. Sisters don't

934
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: need words to understand each other. They have proferred did

935
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: their own secret language of smiles, sniffs, size gasps, winks,

936
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: and eye rolls. That's very true. Another one the greatest

937
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: gift our parents ever gave us was each other. So

938
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: thank you parents. Those are the two quotes you guys.

939
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, thank you so much for being with me.

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00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: And I love you, sister, and I'll see you.

941
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I love you with all my

942
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 2: heart to peace.

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