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Speaker 1: to know. I was your bestest friend. Now you're CEO

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Speaker 1: a year ago, sister, So tell us, how do you

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Speaker 1: do it now? I completely understand why mom always woke

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Speaker 1: beautiful people, Gonna stands Moivian. Welcome to today's episode of

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Speaker 1: Chicks and Chill. I'm so, so so happy you're here today.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be joined by one of my siblings

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Speaker 1: I think you're really a joy this episode. So let's

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Speaker 1: I am so excited to have my sister, Jackie Rivera

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Speaker 1: compos That's correct, right, sister, Yes, Jackie? Yes? Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: perfect because she is married my sister, so we don't

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Speaker 1: rare and amazing opportunity. So Jackie, welcome to Chickens and

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Speaker 1: chill sister. Thank you, sister, Thank you big. I'm so

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Speaker 1: happy to be here. Of course, I love you. I'm

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Speaker 1: so happy we were able to make it happen. And

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Speaker 1: you guys, Jackie doesn't spell her name like regular Jackie's

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Speaker 1: like j A c k i E. She spells it

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Speaker 1: only different. My sister is thank you, sister, thank you

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Speaker 1: for putting some respect on my name. I know sometimes

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Speaker 1: So I said, oh, ship, let me just say that

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Speaker 1: It's very you, very cute. Jackie has always been different. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I'm the eldest and Jackie and I are about

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Speaker 1: just like, She'll send us videos at seven in the

424
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 1: morning with all the kids and they're going to school,

425
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,120
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, how, Like, how have you managed

426
00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,639
Speaker 1: to juggle everything, sister? Like being in such a strong

427
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 1: position having a husband to understand that that's another thing,

428
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,119
Speaker 1: you know that I'm like, and I see Mike, her husband,

429
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 1: you guys, she's I see the difference in him where

430
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 1: he's because he lets you be Jackie and he lets

431
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 1: you shine, And that takes a lot of balls in

432
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 1: a man to say, I'm here, I'm gonna take care

433
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 1: of my kids. I'm gonna let my wife do her thing,

434
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 1: you know. And she also sings, oh my god, you guys, sister,

435
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,160
Speaker 1: so tell us, how do you do it? Like, honestly,

436
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 1: I think it's a it's an accumulation of all those things,

437
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 1: you know. Um, And now I completely understand why Mom

438
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: always woke up early like that. Lady was always up

439
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 1: before everyone, and I'm like, why doesn't she sleep? And

440
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 1: now I understand, Like I just it's the waking up early.

441
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 1: It's honestly having Mike. He's completely different man, and he

442
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 1: knows that whatever it is that he has that can

443
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 1: help me, like just be be my person. He takes

444
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: that so seriously and he does it with so much

445
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 1: love that I can have the peace of mind that

446
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 1: you know, my kids are being taken care of. Sometimes

447
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 1: when I have late, late days, he he handles it. Um.

448
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: So it's just it's that and and really just waking

449
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: up early. And more than anything, I was very afraid. Um.

450
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 1: I didn't want to sacrifice my relationship with my kids.

451
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,360
Speaker 1: I know each all of us had felt that when

452
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 1: we were growing up, and that's always been like, um,

453
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: in the back of my head, even with the colts

454
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 1: or when I made the decision to really focus on

455
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 1: my music, I was like, I want to do this.

456
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 1: It's my passion, it's what I love, but not at

457
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: the expense of my relationship. With my children. So I've

458
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 1: always said after six pm, there's no work. I'm not

459
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm not working, and and it's been really hard because

460
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: there's always something that's a pressing issue, the decision that

461
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: needs to be made now. But I've always told myself

462
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 1: it doesn't need to be made now. You want it

463
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: to be now, but it doesn't have to be. So

464
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: I could wait until tomorrow when it's work hours because

465
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: I need to help. I want to be there and

466
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 1: help Jay the study for school. Um, which I want

467
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: you to know that she got honor roll again my princess. Yes,

468
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: I am a proud of mother, but it's she's not

469
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: God daughter. Yes. So it's it's me making the conscious

470
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 1: decision to like after six I'm not gonna swear any

471
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: phone calls for many lawyers or anything like that, or

472
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: or on the weekends, like I have that time with

473
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: them and it's the family time. Um. But it's just

474
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 1: reminding myself. So scheduling, so you wake up to have

475
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: me out, which is it's your time, okay, because I

476
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: was going to ask you that, like because I've noted,

477
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, there there. You have to have a schedule,

478
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: like it's it's a routine, you know, to say, Okay,

479
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: this is what's going to make me Jackie happy, and

480
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: then have a make time for my kids. And I

481
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,239
Speaker 1: think it's super awesome. She was telling me the other

482
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 1: day we were eating or something, and she's like, yeah,

483
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: we have She puts all of the kids phone, all

484
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 1: of their phones at it like charging center where no

485
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 1: one can grab it, right or something like that can explain,

486
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 1: which I think is super cool. Yeah. So so for

487
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 1: for me, Jayla just got her phone, so I wanted

488
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: to hold it off as much as I could. But

489
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: now in the age that we're living and she needs

490
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: a phone. She's thirteen, which is not that bad because

491
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: I think that's the age I had mine. Um, but

492
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: I don't want her to be addicted to the screen.

493
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: And it's also helping me not be aded to my screen.

494
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: So we all charge our tablets our phones in the

495
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: same section. It doesn't it's not even with me at nighttime,

496
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 1: it's not even with her at nighttime. Everybody charges it

497
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: in the same section and we get to focus on

498
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: us time. So everyone is off their phone by eight

499
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:43,479
Speaker 1: and everybody knows so and wow, I think that's awesome.

500
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 1: I think everyone should practice that. I need to do that,

501
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: like I really do. I've been wanting to put my

502
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: phone in my bathroom like away from me for so long,

503
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: so that I'm attempted to, like, you know, like when

504
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: I'm I need to go to bed, you know, and

505
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: I start thinking. And then it also helps because the

506
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: alarm is set up at a certain time, so I

507
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 1: have to get up and just arm it, so I'm

508
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 1: already out of bed, and then we have to go

509
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: to the gym there also, that's good, okay, And do

510
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: you do you and Mike have like date nights? Uh?

511
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: We we try to our best. Mikey actually did offer

512
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: to take care of the kids so that me and

513
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: Mike can have a day time and we took my

514
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: Varne that yeah, Mike care brother. But yeah, for sure,

515
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: I think that's good. I think that you are definitely

516
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: in a in a much better place within your relationship.

517
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 1: And I would just want to give us a round

518
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: of applause to Mike. Hopefully here's my podcast. But I

519
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: think that it's super awesome, you know, like that you

520
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: freaking Mike, if you're hearing, hopefully you do. Thank you

521
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: for loving my sister. And I see the change, and

522
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: I love it and I'm just happy and I can't

523
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: wait to go to the like you know, if you

524
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: guys get married again. But we are, we are, We're

525
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 1: going to renew our vowels and honestly, like, I'm so

526
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: happy where we're at. So thank you for acknowledging that, Sister,

527
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 1: My husband easy. But it's like how you said, like

528
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: everything had to happen the way it did, and even

529
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: us not being together for that long changed him, changed me.

530
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: Now we came back together and separated. You were separated

531
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: for three years, three years for three years, you know what.

532
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: Maybe now I had got an idea you guys should

533
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 1: come on together as a couple and talk about that

534
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: if you guys wouldn't mind like having an episode of relationships,

535
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: and I think we can all learn from it, you know,

536
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: because yeah, a lot of people don't come back from

537
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: what you guys went through. You know, like literally, you

538
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: guys were separated for a while and it really did

539
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: strengthen your love. And I see it. I see he's

540
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: completely different. You're different. Like it's just you guys are

541
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: in a great place and and I'm happy for you,

542
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: which is continues to grow. But but yeah, I mean,

543
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: and we just had a sister a spat sister day

544
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: you guys. That was a few weeks ago. Yeah, that

545
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 1: was awesome and I was happy that you, like you

546
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: took the time off. So it's like you're really being

547
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: intentional about I'm gonna work, but I'm also going to

548
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: have me days like me You're you days. I've always

549
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: told you that is when you became a mom for

550
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: the first time. Actually, with Genevieve, Jayla, even Jordan's, I

551
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: would have to remind to, like, sister, get your nails done,

552
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: like you need to like have time for you. And

553
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: I see that you do. Like your nails look great,

554
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,239
Speaker 1: your hair looks great. You're taking care of Jackie too.

555
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: That's good. Thank you, sister. Yeah, until all the mommies

556
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: out there, I admire you all because I remember I

557
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: remember you would always tell me, like it's important take

558
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: care of yourself. Yeah, since I since they were little,

559
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: my sister's no, I was the one that makes sure

560
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: you shave, make sure you know your skincare, and put

561
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: your blog, put on yourself there everything. Yes, so I'm

562
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: still that person. So um anyways, sister, actually, yes, I

563
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: do want you to plug in the colors, tell us

564
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: where they can find it, where they can shop, because

565
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: that's important, that's your business. Thank you so much, sister.

566
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: So right now we are strictly online at the gold

567
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,719
Speaker 1: Threads dot com, but we're working on having it at

568
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 1: Jennior Very Fashion in the brim all along with Cheekies

569
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: and stuff check is um Merch and you know the

570
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: be Flawless and then Jessica stuff. So we're trying to

571
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: get all that so they can have a physical location. Yeah,

572
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: I'm excited for that. I know that for all of

573
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 1: us last year, at the beginning of last year, when

574
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 1: all this huge transition started and happened, we all were

575
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: going through stuff, and I know you had this huge

576
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: anxiety attack to like felt I think it was distress

577
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: maybe or what do you think, like because you went

578
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: to the hospital like you were so stressed out right, Yeah,

579
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: so it was it was a panic attack. Um. I

580
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: didn't know that I struggled with anxiety, but apparently I do.

581
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: Janica had said that being forgetful it's like anxiousness. Um.

582
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: I had struggled with a lot one Mike and I

583
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: were not together, but with this change, I think I

584
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: put a lot of pressure on myself, and I wasn't sleeping.

585
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: There was a lot of like decisions needed to be made,

586
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: and I just wasn't sleeping. I wasn't, really, like you said,

587
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: the importance of taking care of ourselves. I wasn't doing

588
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: the things I usually do as I like making sure

589
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: I'm drinking of water. Sleeping is so important, and um,

590
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. I remember I felt like

591
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: I was like bleeding from the inside. So this was

592
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: all mental though it's it's a mental thing. And and

593
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm dying. I'm dying, and poor my

594
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: kids were there and everyone was freaking out, and Mike

595
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: was like, I remember the look on his face. I

596
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: was like, we have to go to the hospital. I

597
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: think I'm dying. And I literally felt like all the

598
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: blood and my body was coming out of me. There's

599
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: nothing physical that could prove there was there. You could

600
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: look at me, and I looked fine, but I felt

601
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: it like the sensation of my fingers were getting tinglie

602
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: and my toes were getting tingly, and I was getting dizzy.

603
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: And I remember Mike rushing to the hospital and and

604
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: Isabelle came to watch the kids and and and Mike

605
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: couldn't get in because they wouldn't let him into the hospital. Yeah. Um,

606
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: but I went into the hospital and they did they

607
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: took my blood and everything was normal. Everything was fine.

608
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm healthy physically. But I was there like she hasn't slept,

609
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: she's she's dying, de hydrated. She had a panic attack.

610
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 1: I thought that I was dying, literally like it was.

611
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: It was very very scary, very like I can't I

612
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: I really thought I was dying. Like and I remember

613
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: I was calling you. I remember I left you a

614
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: voice message. Yeah, that was I was trying to call

615
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: you guys to say bye to you guys because I

616
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: thought I was dying. Good. It was. It was insane.

617
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: And then I remember I was they put me in

618
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: a wheelchair and I was looking at the lights and

619
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: and I felt like if I fell asleep, I said,

620
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: So I was fighting to stay awake so that I

621
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't die. But really my body wanted me to sleep,

622
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: wanted me to rest. It was really crazy. It was

623
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: very scary. But and how's how's your mental your mental

624
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: health now? How do you are you feeling better? Do

625
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: you have your feel better since that time? Mike really

626
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: like he's like, okay, like you need to sleep, like

627
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: because sometimes he'd let me just stay up and and

628
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: I think that was when there was a switch, like

629
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: he kind of like really stepped in like okay, babe,

630
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: like like let's all go to sleep, let's rest, make

631
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: sure you're eating, make sure, I think because I was

632
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: so busy on making sure that, like I was, you know,

633
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: taking care of everything. I had to take care of me.

634
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: And though it was just I don't know, like it

635
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: was a weird I don't know if without saying too

636
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: much about what's happening in the business, like I think

637
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: it was just a really stressful time and I was

638
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: so consumed by that. And and now you know, it's

639
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: the little changes where Mike's like we have conversations about

640
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: what's going on, so that I convent because I felt

641
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: like I had to take all the load to not

642
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: stress you know, you guys out or or him out,

643
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: and even just the pressure of like I need to

644
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: make sure that I do it right I I And

645
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: now now I know that I don't. I don't have

646
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: to put that much pressure on me because I have

647
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: your guys, like I know it, Like I think before

648
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: I had this misconception of like I have to show

649
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: that I'm there really working, you know, I don't know.

650
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: It's just myself, not that anyone made me feel that way,

651
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: and I get that. So now it's it's the little

652
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: things like not having my phone with me and not

653
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: staying up too late, and it's all those little things.

654
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: I feel better. There's moments where I obviously there's decisions

655
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: that need to be made and just situations that happened.

656
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I'm not I'm just gonna pray and

657
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: give it to God, like me staying up, it's going

658
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,959
Speaker 1: to change the situation. Yeah. Do you feel like that

659
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: was your wake up call, like where you're like, Okay,

660
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: I need to make changes. Okay, Yeah yeah, and I didn't.

661
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: Thank goodness that Mike is there to like support you

662
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: and tell you, hey, um it's time to go to bed.

663
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's all about that. It's balancing your life.

664
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: Maybe you were just so far the other way that

665
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: it's just finding that balance. That's one thing that is

666
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: so important for your mental health, for your physical health.

667
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: So so I'm like, of course scared that that happened,

668
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, it freaks me out.

669
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: But in a way, I'm like, Okay, that's God saying,

670
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: hey Jack, sit down for a little bit, you know,

671
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: and are you still doing therapy or like you're not right? Yeah? Yeah, okay, good, Yeah, Yes,

672
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: we have therapist. Guys. It's my sister and I. She's awesome.

673
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: She's so awesome, and she ends every session with the prayer.

674
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: So it just makes me feel good. So you guys

675
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: were huge advocates for therapy. You guys know, almost in

676
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: every episode of Chick, I'm always therapy, therapy, therapy, like

677
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: it's just talking and then putting it out. It's so important,

678
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: you guys. So that's crazy, and I love that. I

679
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: love that you're sharing that because I feel like in

680
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: our generation. I feel like this generation, I don't know

681
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,479
Speaker 1: if we're millennials or whatever, but we're very much like

682
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: take care of those issues, those internalized was the things

683
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 1: that aren't seen. I feel like the previous generation. I

684
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: remember Mom didn't believe in like depression and like she

685
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: didn't believe it getting sad like get up and she

686
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: didn't and obviously like maybe that's what she needed to succeed.

687
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: But I like to cry. I get it all out

688
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: like it's important. So I'm grateful and I feel like

689
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: that's I remember, like even like Mom did not believe

690
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: in organic Mom, I'm just like you know you were

691
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: very much like you were the pivotal moment of like, no,

692
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: this is important, and you know, I love it because

693
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: now I'm healthy emotionally and all the areas. Yeah, because

694
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: Mom was just like, let's just get ship done. Depressions

695
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: in your mind and she didn't really get it, and

696
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: I understand. It's like now it's like you said, we're

697
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: about self help and self love and self growth and

698
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: really like trying to get this internal part in. Yeah.

699
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: So I'm very proud of you. I am that I mean,

700
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: and you actually my sister Jackie introduced me to my therapist.

701
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: You guys, so this I mean, I had many therapists,

702
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: but this last one, the one that I'm working with now.

703
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: She gave me for my birthday? Was it right? You

704
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: gave me a book? Um, she gave me a book

705
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: which is took me way back to my tow when

706
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: we lived in Compton. What is a Chicken Soup for

707
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: the Soup for the for the soul? And five sessions

708
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: to this therapist tanyes So and I'm so grateful. She's

709
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,959
Speaker 1: so awesome. I love her so much because I'm glad.

710
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: I've been telling sometimes like Tanya and talk to you.

711
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: Can you take me today? She's like okay, yes, five PM.

712
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, perfect, thank you. So um not only

713
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: like I said you guys, is my sister, a mother,

714
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: a wife for CEO she has, She's an entrepreneur. She

715
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: also is a singer, a very talented singer, beautiful singer.

716
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: I have been her fans since the first time I

717
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: heard her sing and also at church. She has the

718
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: voice of an angel. Um. So, what's going on with

719
00:35:52,400 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: their music? Well, I am working on my album. Um up,

720
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 1: I'm working on it. I I'm balancing everything I'm doing

721
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: with my album. And that's more of a gift to

722
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: myself because I kind of for some reason, I was

723
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: wrote off singing like I'm like, I'm not gonna do this.

724
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: I love it, but I'm not gonna do it. I'm

725
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: afraid of the business. But I think now, like I

726
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: made my two or three years ago, I just said,

727
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: don't know, I need to do this album and just

728
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: do it for myself, like show myself that I could

729
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: do it, and then you know, life through curveballs and

730
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: then positions shifted and changed. But I'm like, no, I

731
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: can't let that slip away. So we're almost done. I

732
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: don't have like a date or anything yet, but um,

733
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: I am working. Oh my god, I'm so excited. I

734
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: have to tell you, guys, I didn't know she was

735
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: working on an actual album, but actually did show me

736
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 1: like a song. We had a sibling meeting a few

737
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: weeks ago and she showed me a song, you guys,

738
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: and I was like floored. I was like, what it.

739
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: You've always been an amazing finger at jack, but this

740
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: is another level and this song is so wow, one

741
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: of my favorite songs. I don't know, I just cannot.

742
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: I can't wait for you guys to hear it. So

743
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: I'm so happy they're working on this album. You know me, sister,

744
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: we're going to have to have an album release party,

745
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: you know. Oh my gosh, oh my god. Can you

746
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: give us a little hint as to what kind of music.

747
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: Maybe it's bilingual and it's like alternative, like rock. It's

748
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: so fucking awesome. You guys are counting for you to

749
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: hear it, and people are always asking sister for a

750
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,959
Speaker 1: cheek ease and Jackie song. And I know, dude, yeah,

751
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: I haven't every all the time, so we need to

752
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: do it O say yeah, I mean the moment you

753
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: got and I have a song in mind. I'll share

754
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: that with you later because it has a bit surprise.

755
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: But Jackie and I have a little surprise coming. We

756
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: can't tell you how or what, but it's coming. It's

757
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: already done. Um so, but we do need to do

758
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: you something, you and I something like super different it

759
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: so I would love that. And I just want to

760
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: say thank you for believing in me, sister. Why am

761
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: I still emotional? Yes, I promise. Um. I just want

762
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: to say thank you for believing in me. I know

763
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: that it hasn't been easy because people are so cruel

764
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: and negative and have tried to put us against each other,

765
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: especially on the music side. Um. And I always tell

766
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: people like my sister has something else, like you have

767
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: this grace and charisma and the stage presence and your

768
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: voice has grown. But I just want to say thank

769
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: you for supporting me and even like inviting me to

770
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: be part of the concert in Nanaheim, like that did

771
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: something in me of like I actually do like I

772
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 1: love this, you know, so just it's every little thing.

773
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: So I just I just want to say thank you,

774
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 1: and I really appreciate you being the best big sister

775
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: and just backing me and supporting me even when people

776
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: try to stupid. Yes, people can be a holes. But

777
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, I've learned, and it's taken me a while

778
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: because for a long time I did feel like, oh

779
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: my gosh, my sister has a better voice than me,

780
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: and maybe this is what I'm supposed to do. We

781
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: just have different voices. That's what I've learned. We have

782
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: different voices, and I've learned to embrace my voice. And

783
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: my voice is different, and I have my own light

784
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 1: to shine and she has her own light to shine.

785
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: And it's not about competing or being better than each

786
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: other or one another or it's about just embracing each

787
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: other's talent, like knowing that I have something special and

788
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: so does she, and so does my mom and so

789
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: does everyone else. And people need to stop comparing and

790
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 1: putting people against each other. That's just so not cool.

791
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: Like people are like Okay, Beyonce, Arihanna or Drake and

792
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 1: like it's it's like, dude, it's always always Michael Jackson

793
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: her prints like dude got again, Like I everyone has

794
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: their own thing, like just stop with that. Like, and

795
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: I'm not going to allow anyone's comment or anything to

796
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: come between us. I embrace you completely as my baby sister,

797
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: as an artist, like I admire you, and I admire

798
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: so many other women. Why wouldn't I admire my own sister?

799
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I think, do you remember

800
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: anything embarrassing, sister about like our child said, anything that

801
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: you want to share, like something, I mean, besides the

802
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: time that you were I was running around naked that

803
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 1: we shared on Santa's podcast. But I'm trying to think what, Oh, sister, Yes,

804
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: I don't know if we said the story before. Come

805
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: on tell them that. Yes, I don't even remember that

806
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: but her poop, yes, guys, Okay, so fine, I'll tell

807
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 1: the story. Go friends. Okay. So we lived in Compton

808
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: and it was our house on Keene Street and Compton

809
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: and um my mom and dad had just gotten back

810
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: together and anyways, so our water wasn't working. My I

811
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: don't know if mom forgot to pay the water bill

812
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: or what happened, but the water was not working. So

813
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: I woke up and I pooped. I was like five

814
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: or something like that. Mom told, yeah, my mom told

815
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: me not to poop, but hey, I'm five years old.

816
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: I had a poop. So I got up and secretly

817
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: went to the bathroom. And I remember seeing my mom

818
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: and my dad on the couch and I was like,

819
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna walk real slowly, took little poop. I

820
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: went back to my room and there goes little She's

821
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: most jack Jackie. There goes Jackie and goes after what

822
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: did my sister go do? I went to the toilet

823
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 1: and grabbed my little poop and it, Oh my god.

824
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: She literally was like I remember. I was like, oh

825
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 1: my god, Jackie is sid in her in her bed

826
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: and I was like, went to go. Look, you were

827
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: in the toilet, on the toilet like literally had the

828
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: settle thing. Sorry, that's such ad the poop in her hand,

829
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: and she was like biting on it like it was

830
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: a Snickers. You guys, I just got girls stout disgusting

831
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: And then as a mom, like I put myself in

832
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: that position and like with no water to clean me,

833
00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: there was no am like I'm sorry I had ap

834
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: in there. Oh, but you weren't taking you a care

835
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: of your sister. And I'm like, oh my gosh. But anyways,

836
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: that's a little story you guys. I swear I know

837
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 1: Mom was pissed. Oh my god. Sorry. Johnny's here too.

838
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: He's he's He's the one that reminded me of the

839
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: poop story. Um, but you want to know something funny.

840
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 1: So Jeneteve has bangs. My my second daughter has bangs,

841
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: and I made me think of you, and they were

842
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: like just all up in her face. They've they've grown out.

843
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm just gonna try to cut them, bro,

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Speaker 1: And it made me think, like her brains are now

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Speaker 1: above her eyebrows and her twick and it made me

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Speaker 1: gonna cut bangs, you guys, don't do it when the

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Speaker 1: hair is wet. I was terrible, Yeah, because once they so,

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Speaker 1: they're like twickles. I'll send you a picture. They're like

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Speaker 1: my messed up. One side is higher than the other.

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Speaker 1: And I remember when you did that. I'm just like, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean whatever. But she's so kind, she's so sweet.

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Speaker 1: She's like it's okay, mom me like, you can tell

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Speaker 1: she's unhappy, but she like, it's okay, Mommy. They're going

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Speaker 1: to grow out. Oh she's so sweet, My Jenny. We

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Speaker 1: can just straighten them, just pin them back. That's what

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Speaker 1: I did with you. I just could pick them back

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Speaker 1: for a long time. But you, guys, I hope you

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Speaker 1: really enjoyed this episode. I definitely did, sister. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for your time. Um. I love this conversation with so

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Speaker 1: healing from my heart and hopefully people can listen to

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Speaker 1: it and learn from us, and learn from you especially,

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Speaker 1: and know that we're good. You and I are very

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Speaker 1: good and we have been for a long time. And

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Speaker 1: f the naysayers, f them, and to all my cheek

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Speaker 1: ease and chill listeners. You guys know I always end

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Speaker 1: my episodes with a quote, one or two, you know,

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Speaker 1: So here's a quote. Sisters don't need words to understand

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Speaker 1: each other. They have did their own secret language of smiles, sniffs,

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Speaker 1: size gasps, winks, and eye rolls. It's very true. Another

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Speaker 1: one the greatest gift our parents ever gave us was

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Speaker 1: each other. So thank you parents. Those are the two quotes,

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Speaker 1: you guys, Oh my gosh, thank you so much. For

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Speaker 1: for being with me and I love you, sister, and

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Speaker 1: I'll see you so much. I love you with all

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Speaker 1: my heart peace. Do you need advice on love, relationships, health? Imas.

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Speaker 1: and Chill podcast will have an extra episode drop each week.

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Speaker 1: I'll be answering all your questions. Just leave me a

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Speaker 1: voice message. All you have to do is go to

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Speaker 1: speak pipe dot com slash Cheeks and Chill podcast and

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Speaker 1: record your questions. I can't wait to hear from you.

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