1 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: Well, good evening, everyone, Welcome to Stinchfield. 2 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: I am proud to call Nicholas Maduro, the former dictator 3 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: of Venezuela, well. Today in a New York courtroom, he 4 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: pled not guilty to the charges against him, basically that 5 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: he's a narco terrorist and a drug trafficker and a 6 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 2: man who was responsible for killing many, many Americans. In court, 7 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: he had the audacity to claim that he is a 8 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: decent man. You tell that to the Venezuelans that he 9 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: not only stole property from but he often imprisoned and 10 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: at worst he killed them if they disagreed with him. 11 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: This is no decent man, all trying to profit off 12 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: the killing of American citizens by sending fentanyl and cocaine 13 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: in the United States at levels like we have never 14 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: seen before. So all of this now is a positive 15 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: for the United States of America. The world is a 16 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: safer place with Maduro behind bars, and I believe only 17 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 2: things are going to get better from here. 18 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: Here is President Trump. 19 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 3: We're going to run the country until such time as 20 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: we can do a safe, proper and judicious transition. So 21 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 3: we don't want to be involved with having somebody else 22 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: get in. And we have the same situation that we 23 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: had for the last long period of years. 24 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: So that had people screaming and yelling. We don't want 25 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: to be in the business of nation building. 26 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: But this isn't about nation building, it's about nation restoration. 27 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: It's not a Rock or Afghanistan, nations that can only 28 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: be run by dictators. 29 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: The people in. 30 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: Those countries cannot handle freedom. Venezuela, on the other hand, 31 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 2: prospered under freedom. It was a capitalistic country. They know 32 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: what freedom is. They had it stolen from them under 33 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 2: the threat coercion and violence laid down on them by 34 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: the goons, these socialist goons like Maduro and Chaves. So 35 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: any comparison to Iraq in Afghanistan countries that are not 36 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: exceptional and can handle freedom, are ridiculous. 37 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 4: That a lot of people analyze everything that happens in 38 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 4: foreign policy through the lens of what happened from two 39 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 4: thousand and one to two thousand, you know, fifteen or sixteen, 40 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 4: the whole you know, foreign policy apparatus thinks everything is Libya, 41 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 4: everything is a rock, everything is Afghanistan. This is not 42 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 4: the Middle East, and our mission here is very different. 43 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 4: This is the Western Hemisphere. 44 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: Now that's not to say, isn't going to be difficult. 45 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: Maduro has henchmen that are dug in. The former vice 46 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 2: president now so called President of Venezuela, who was never 47 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 2: elected by the way she was appointed by Maduro, says 48 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: she's willing to work with the United States. I don't 49 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: trust her. Things on that front are not going to 50 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: be easy. 51 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: But for any. 52 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: Democrat that somehow decries that this was an unjust move 53 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: by the United States of America ought to talk to 54 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: Venezuelan's I can't believe it, but NBC did me. 55 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: Why are people here so excited? We are celebrating freedom 56 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: and liberty. 57 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 5: Thanks to President Trump, we were able to gain her 58 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 5: freedom back. 59 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: My wife hasn't been able to go home since since 60 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: she was a kid. 61 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 6: My kids have never gone to Venezuela, so this is huge. 62 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: Now, think about this where Democrats are today. 63 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: Joe Biden put a twenty five million dollar bounty for 64 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: the rest and capture of Nicholas Maduro on Maduro's head. Biden, 65 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: Trump goes in and arrests and captures Nicholas Maduro and the. 66 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: Democrats go crazy. Folks. 67 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: A policy is not just scream about the opposite of 68 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: whatever President Trump is doing. That's not a policy, but 69 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: that's where the Democrats are today. And think about this 70 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 2: for those that also somehow claim that we shouldn't be 71 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 2: doing this. It's unconstitutional. It's not going to hold up 72 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 2: in court. It's already played out in court. Do you 73 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: remember Manuel Noriega, also a phony leader in Panama when GW. 74 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: Bush George Bush HW Bush. 75 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: Sent in the troops to go capture him. Well, that 76 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: played out in a federal courthouse, and guess what, he 77 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 2: was convicted and the courts upheld America's right to arrest 78 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: criminals no matter where. 79 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: They are in the world. 80 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: Well, I want to bring in someone now who was 81 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: in Panama, and he is an amazing guy, a longtime 82 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: friend of mine. Not only was he in Panama, but 83 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: he parachuted into Panama on the Invasion Force. 84 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: As an army ranger. And I want to bring in 85 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: Army ranger retired Chuck Holton to the program. Chuck, it 86 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: is good to see you, my friend. Welcome. I know 87 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: you are down on the Columbia Venezuelan border. 88 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 6: Is that correct, Yeah, that's correct. This feels really familiar. 89 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 7: Grant. We did this every day for a couple of years, 90 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 7: didn't we? 91 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you and I did. 92 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: We worked together at NRATV, and I call Chuck my 93 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 2: chaos reporter because anywhere there's chaos, you're going there. 94 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: But that started out early on. 95 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: Can you tell me, Chuck, through your experience of parachuting 96 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 2: into Panama to go after a dictator like Noriega and 97 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 2: what went down over the weekend, Explain to me the 98 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 2: similarities here and what are soldiers and true groups and 99 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: special forces may have been going through. 100 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 6: That's a very good comparison. There are a lot of similarities. 101 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, Manuel Noriega was not elected 102 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 6: president of Panama. He stepped in after the elected president, 103 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 6: who was also a dictator, Omartorios, was killed in a 104 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 6: suspicious plane crash. 105 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 7: Let's put it that way. 106 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 6: Noriega had actually been an asset for the CIA before that, 107 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 6: but then he started playing both sides of the fence, 108 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 6: and he was working with narco traffickers to launder their money. 109 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 6: That's one of the reasons there are so many high 110 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 6: rise buildings in Panama City today. Those there are all 111 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 6: money laundering projects. And so the United States under George H. W. 112 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 6: Bush sent of course, now this is where it kind 113 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 6: of diverges a little bit. We already had twenty two 114 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 6: thousand troops in Panama. It's the only time in American 115 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 6: history when we've invaded the country that we already occupied 116 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 6: because we had troops in the canal zone there and 117 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,799 Speaker 6: that sort of thing, and we had actually been there 118 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 6: just that January, i'm sorry, July before that invasion in 119 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 6: December for training, so we had already trained on the 120 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 6: same ground that we were invading, so it made it 121 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 6: a lot easier. But we did the same thing that 122 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 6: the Delta Force guys did in this mission, which was 123 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 6: built a scale model mock up and hit that thing 124 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 6: over and over and over again until we had it 125 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 6: down to a science. And then we got the go 126 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 6: ahead from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff 127 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 6: and from Jaysaw, and we went in and parachuted in. 128 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 7: It took us about two weeks to. 129 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 6: Take Noriega out of there because he went and hid 130 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 6: in the embassy they called the Papal Nuncio of the Vatican, 131 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 6: and so it took a while for us to get 132 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 6: the Vatican to kick him out so that we could 133 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 6: arrest him. But then he went to Federal court in Miami, 134 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 6: went to prison for twenty years in a federal prison 135 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 6: in Miami, then was released to France, where he was 136 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 6: also facing charges. He served a year in prison in 137 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 6: France and then was released to Panama, where he was 138 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 6: also facing charges, and he spent the rest of his 139 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 6: life in prison in Panama. 140 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: All of Noriega's defenses that he was a leader of 141 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: a sovereign country, he should have immunity, that the United 142 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: States can't go and arrest somebody on another country for 143 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: charge here, all that played out in Noriega's trial, and 144 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: the courts upheld America's right for that. It is the 145 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: same defense that Maduro is making today. He doesn't stand 146 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: a case, does he no? 147 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 7: Because the nation is sovereign. 148 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 6: But the guy who is the interloper, who's not an 149 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 6: elected president that's just leading the country, is not sovereign. 150 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 7: And that's the difference that people miss here. 151 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: Chuck, Can I ask you, you're on the border of 152 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: Columbia and Venezuela. You live in Panama now, which I 153 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: think is just, you know, so amazing. A guy who 154 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: parachutes in there during that invasion, now you live in Panama. 155 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: You have spent so much time in Central South America 156 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: and beyond, there was such a mass exodus coming out 157 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: of Venezuela. Are you seeing an exodus now or are 158 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: people commers there? Less people coming across the border. 159 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 6: It's a very good question, Grant. As a matter of fact, 160 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 6: I've been here in Kukuta. It's going all the way 161 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 6: back to about twenty seventeen reporting on this. If you 162 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 6: go back to two thousand and eight, that's when people 163 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 6: really started leaving Venezuela. And that's because the currency collapse. 164 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 6: I happen to have here. This would have been in 165 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 6: two thousand and eight about ten thousand dollars worth of 166 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 6: Venezuelan currency, and today we bought it for under five dollars, 167 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 6: just as a souvenir. It's absolutely worthless, not even worth 168 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 6: the paper is printed on and so they make art 169 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 6: out of it at this point. Okay, So people got 170 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 6: with the hyperinflation where they couldn't survive and they started leaving. 171 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 7: Well, that ramped up more and more and more. 172 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 6: Under the first Trump administration, you had millions of people 173 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 6: fleeing Venezuela now a total of about eight million people, 174 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 6: and most of them came through this city, right behind me. 175 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 6: Cucuta is about seven hundred thousand people, but there have 176 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 6: been times where there were more Venezuelans in Cucuta than Cucutenos. 177 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 6: And now there's probably still about two hundred thousand refugees 178 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 6: from Venezuela. 179 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 7: I've been here talking to them. 180 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 6: I was expecting coming down here that there would be 181 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 6: a mass exodus of people leaving Venezuela now. But what 182 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 6: you have to understand is that because Gustavo Petro, the 183 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 6: President of Colombia, is also a communist, when he got 184 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 6: into office about five years ago, he threw open the border. 185 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 6: That's what leftists do, right, they throw open the border. 186 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 6: So he threw open the border with Venezuela and gave 187 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 6: protected status to Venezuelans in his country so they can 188 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 6: come in and work. 189 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 7: So it allowed them to actually continue. 190 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 6: Living in Venezuela if they live close to the border, 191 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 6: crossover to work, and then go back and live where 192 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 6: it's cheaper in Venezuela, and so it relieved a lot 193 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 6: of that pressure. And that border is still wide open 194 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 6: right now. However, there's a difference. In twenty eighteen, I 195 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 6: came down here, and that's during the first Trump administration, 196 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 6: there was the Trump administration was trying to get aid 197 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 6: to the people in Venezuela because they were literally eating 198 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 6: their pets in Venezuela, and the Maduro regime sent armed 199 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 6: biker gangs to the border to burn the aid on 200 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:26,599 Speaker 6: the bridge. 201 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 7: That crossed the river into Venezuela. 202 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 6: You might remember that, and I was here for that, 203 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 6: big firefights, all sorts of fighting and stuff. 204 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 7: But when that happened, I went down. 205 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 6: To the river where the people were crossing anyway because 206 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 6: the bridge was closed, and I crossed into Venezuela just 207 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 6: to get a shot of the bridge. And I no 208 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 6: sooner got into Venezuela that three of those biker gang 209 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 6: guys came running up and grabbed me and tried to 210 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 6: tried to kidnap me and take me to Caracas. I 211 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 6: had to kind of employ my ranger skills to disagree 212 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 6: with them forcefully and get out. 213 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 2: I remember that well, and I believe that was when 214 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: you were at NERATV with me, and you've been in 215 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: some hairy situations. I'm hopeful for the people of Venezuela, 216 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: this is going to be a great thing. 217 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: Real quick. 218 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 2: Ten seconds, Chuck, The people of Venezuela. Now have to 219 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 2: be very hopeful real quick. 220 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 6: They are, but they're saying we're not going to go 221 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 6: back into Venezuela until the rest of the regime falls. 222 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 6: They said Trump took out Ali Baba and. 223 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 7: Left the forty thieves. 224 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing. 225 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: Chuck Holton, it is always great to see you, my friend. 226 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: Thank you for doing this with me tonight. I want 227 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: you to check out Chuck's podcast, The Hot Zone with 228 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: Chuck Holton on YouTube. 229 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: Chuck, thank you in time, absolutely, my man. 230 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: All right, folks, so now you have deranged anti Trump 231 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: lunatics that are basically they call out they don't like kings, 232 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: but then the moment you arrest a king, they want 233 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: him freed. 234 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: It makes no sense. This is in New York City. 235 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: If you take a close look at the signs there. 236 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: This is really interesting because in Orlando, though, the same 237 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: dopey protesters are using the very same signs. 238 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: Watch you look at them. 239 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: Somebody's organizing this and it's all about being anti Trump, 240 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: not pro people. And I can tell you this, no 241 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: one knows more about how brutal Nicholas Maduro was to 242 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: anybody that disagreed with him, including Americans. I'm so honored 243 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 2: to have on the program now a former recent Maduro 244 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 2: regime hostage US Air Force veteran, Joe Saint Clair. We 245 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 2: talked a lot about him on this program. Joe, welcome home. 246 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: It is great to have you back, and you must 247 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: be thrilled about the news over the weekend. 248 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 8: I agree. First, I want to say think to you 249 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 8: and your team for platforming and my father and interviewing him, 250 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 8: because without your help and support, really the fire to 251 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 8: get me out of there wouldn't have occurred. I know 252 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 8: that during the Biden regime, nobody knew where I was 253 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 8: for three months. I was held under a false name. 254 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,599 Speaker 8: So on one hand, when I see Maduro with the 255 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 8: with the headset and the mask over his eyes, you know, 256 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 8: I do feel somewhat vindicated. And the truth is he 257 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 8: kept a bag over my head for six months and 258 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 8: attempted to disappear me permanently. And what he's done to 259 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,359 Speaker 8: the Venezuelan people and even to their close neighbors, the Colombians, 260 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 8: is on another level. As brutal as he is to 261 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 8: you know, those he uses his enemies, they weren't going 262 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 8: to the extent with Americans as they were with Latinos. 263 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 8: It really is sad. And to those who think that, 264 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 8: who believe Madua when he says he's a good person, 265 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 8: it's not true. It's absolutely not true. He does not 266 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 8: honor basic human rights. And if you don't believe this, 267 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 8: take a flight to Columbia, take a flight to Brazil, 268 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 8: go near the border of Venezuela and see what happens. 269 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 8: See it like these people all brutalizing half of your. 270 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: Face, That's what happened to you. You're on vacation and 271 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: get scooped up. I believe they probably figured out exactly 272 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: who you are, and being an Air Force veteran, that 273 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: made you an even more probably target for them. Now 274 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: they scoop you up, take you down there. What was 275 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: life like for you? 276 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: How long were you there? Again? And tell me what 277 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: life was like for you? 278 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, so I was there for just under six months, 279 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 8: and your last guest. The situation he described was eerily 280 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 8: similar to what occurred to me. Like many of the 281 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 8: other Americans, eused citizens and citizens from thirty countries all 282 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 8: over the world that ended up in this black site 283 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 8: prison where I was at Maduro's personal prison. Most of 284 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 8: us were traveling with people we were dating or loved 285 00:15:53,800 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 8: ones or family members, and unfortunately, you know, there's there's nothing. 286 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 8: Once they had gotten me, essentially, I knew that I 287 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 8: was I was done for because I had a gun 288 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 8: to my face. At first, it seemed like they were 289 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 8: just trying to get a bribe or possibly rob me. 290 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 8: Then they started going through my phone and they found 291 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 8: a photo of me in uiform. At that point, I 292 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 8: became the trophy prize. So on one hand that was terrifying. 293 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 8: On the other hand, I knew, Okay, they're probably not 294 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 8: going to kill me, even though they're threatening to do so. 295 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 8: But I also had to think about, you know, I 296 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 8: have somebody with me that also they're not America and 297 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 8: they're Venezuelan, and whatever I do will affect them. 298 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: But I was. 299 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 8: I was hog tied, driven twelve hours to Caracas and 300 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 8: taken to the headquarters of what is their NSA or 301 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 8: CIA d G CIM and for the first three three 302 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 8: weeks I was there, I was kept in solitary confinement, 303 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 8: without a bathroom, in a room that was about forty 304 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 8: degrees you know, concrete bed and had no outside communication. 305 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 8: And the only way I got out of there, honestly, was. 306 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 8: I said, okay, tell you whatever I need to tell you. 307 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 8: I just let me out of the cell. And when 308 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 8: I did that, they pulled me out, and I said, hey, 309 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 8: the only thing that matters is my life, and if 310 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 8: you put me down there, I'm not going to survive. 311 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 8: And I'm not going down there right now. I'm going 312 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 8: to resist from there. I was since the prison that's 313 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 8: on the screen, that's Rodeo Uno. And as you can tell, 314 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 8: the conditions are extremely abysmal. You know, the government forces, 315 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 8: the soldiers, I really feel for them because they're just 316 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 8: as much hostage as that people they are guarding. Uh 317 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 8: and it's it. I was not surprised to see that 318 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 8: there was no anti aircraft, you know, artillery firing at 319 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 8: our planes, because these been, these been as well as 320 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 8: soldiers do not have people to fight. I had several 321 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 8: come up to me and whisper in my ear, Hey, 322 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 8: here's my Instagram. When you get out of here, I'll 323 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 8: pass to information. If you can get me safety United States, 324 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 8: I'll do so. So up to field grade level officers 325 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 8: in there in there on CIA. So, yeah, the conditions 326 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 8: were terrible. 327 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 2: Had you had you been in contact with any of 328 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: those soldiers since. 329 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 8: I had so uh they weirdly enough, as I was 330 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 8: getting flown out, I was rescued on my own and 331 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 8: it was about a twenty four hour process. If you 332 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 8: look at the photos of when I came back, they 333 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 8: actually fortunately shaved my head because I understood they weren't 334 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 8: going to respect my rights as a human being, as 335 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 8: an American. But I appealed to their religiousness, and I 336 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 8: said I was a Nazarene Christian. I wouldn't cut my 337 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 8: beard in my hair, but you know, just to show 338 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 8: the level of depravity before I left, eight guys and 339 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 8: tied me down and just fortunately shaved my head. Those 340 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 8: Asians have since reached out to contacts that I know 341 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 8: from my ex in Columbia, and they've attempted to make 342 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 8: contact with me. I've not done so just because I 343 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 8: feel a little sketchy about it, but certainly other hostages 344 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 8: who are there, their family members live in Caraccas. So 345 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 8: as soon as it's hit, within twenty minutes our group 346 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 8: drets were blowing up and we already knew it was window. 347 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 2: Joe, I guess the question to you, then there is 348 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: a possibility that with Maduro gone, the pressure from President 349 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: Trump in the United States military that there could be 350 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: a colorse of Maduro's regime and those inside that literally 351 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 2: want out of that as well. 352 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 8: Do you think, yeah, I think that what you see 353 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 8: here is probably ninety percent of the population want Maduro out. 354 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 8: And it's important to note that in this Black Side prison, 355 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 8: you know, there were Venezuela and loyalist soldiers who were 356 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 8: you know, dead to rights ja vistas, they're former economic 357 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 8: minister was there, Journalists who just released economic data were there, 358 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 8: and everyone there was afraid to utter the name of Madua. 359 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 8: They had to do a curled must that should talk 360 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 8: about them. So on one hand, yes, the Venezuelan people 361 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 8: want to be rid of this guy, but they also 362 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 8: want to be rid of the system because it is 363 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 8: an organized part. It is a criminal gang element, and 364 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 8: they act that way. That's why they can't actually collect 365 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 8: on people's cell phones. They force people to. They have 366 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 8: checkpoints every ten miles to open people's phones and search 367 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 8: for the name Madureau. Or if you have an American contact, 368 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 8: you're going to get sit to one of these prisons. 369 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 8: Or if you ventured the United States illegal and you're reported, 370 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 8: you're going to win these prisons. So those people are 371 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 8: really you know, it's really tragic what's happening to them, Joe. 372 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 8: But that being said, g gc Im and Sabine, they're 373 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 8: all implicated in this, and I'm not surprised. I've seen 374 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 8: a couple of videos as I'm saying, they're ready to 375 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 8: stay to fight. But many people don't know that. There's 376 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 8: also fifteen other high level individuals in Venezuela who have 377 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 8: been indicted, who have you know, the same price tags 378 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 8: on their heads. And of course these people are going 379 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 8: to try to hold on the power. So my message 380 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 8: to you know, American forces and as well as Venezuelans 381 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 8: who are moving into power, you know, these elements need 382 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 8: to be dealt with. I don't I don't think this 383 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 8: is an Iraq. I don't think this is a forever war. 384 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 8: I think this was perfectly executed in the Venezuemen. People 385 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 8: need to step up and you know, lead this change at. 386 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 2: This point, Joe, last question for you before I let 387 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: you go, and so glad you're home. Your message to 388 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 2: President Trump, he was really the one responsible that administration, 389 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 2: President Trump, others of getting you freed and the others 390 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 2: that were free. 391 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: There were other American hostages. We profiled your. 392 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 2: Message to him about the weekend and getting you free 393 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: real quick. 394 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 8: You know, I owe my life to President Trump. I 395 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 8: had two things that kept me alive and kept me strong. 396 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 8: One was my faith in God, and you know, going 397 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 8: back to that. But the other was knowing Trump is 398 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 8: going into office and I had been sequestered and kept 399 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 8: from the other Americans for the first month I was there. 400 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 8: But when I showed up, they had all lost all hope. 401 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 8: They had protested, they'd breaken out of theirselves, and like me, 402 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 8: they were under false names. So I told them as 403 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 8: I said, Hey, the truth is, guys, we're not getting 404 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 8: out until January twentieth. But by the end of the 405 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 8: second week that he had got into office, we got 406 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 8: out and hope was restored, and every Venezuelan in that 407 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 8: country was rooting and praying and hoping for a US 408 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 8: intervision for at least the last three years. 409 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 5: Wow. 410 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 8: So thank you Trump, and thank you for what we 411 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 8: did this weekend. You were used by God. 412 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: This Joe Saint Clair. We're so happy you're home. Thank 413 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: you for your service to America. And look, I'm glad 414 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: to see you. Look like you're doing well, I'm glad 415 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 2: to see you're safe and sound back on Home Soil, 416 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: and you're welcome to come on this program anytime you want. 417 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: We think you're an American hero buddy, and we appreciate 418 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 2: you coming on. 419 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 8: Thank you for your support and like I always say, 420 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 8: you guys are worth it. 421 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: Take care well, I appreciate that for sure. All right, folks, 422 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 2: I want to move on now. We're running a little 423 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: short on time, so let's run to the promo. 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You know, I was blessed to be 441 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: down to the Florida Keys on vacation when the capture 442 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: of Maduro unfolded, and my very special lady friend, who 443 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 2: is a phenomenal stock trader by the way, she ought 444 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 2: to do it professionally, says to me, what is this 445 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: going to do to the stock market Monday? I said, 446 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: you know, I think it rises. I think this shows 447 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 2: American dominance. And sure enough what happened. The down made 448 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: record highs. 449 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: The S and P was up. 450 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 2: Of course, you had many of the energy stocks, Exon 451 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 2: and Chevron all up because you're gonna go back and 452 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: get what they owned. 453 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: It was their oral refinery equipment. 454 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: The Democrats forget that, and so sure enough, when you 455 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 2: have a leader like President Trump, this isn't chaos what 456 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 2: happened in Venezuela. It's control and that's when stocks boom. 457 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 2: This is Mark Rubio talking about the energy industry. 458 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 4: Pretty certain that there will be dramatic interests from Western companies, 459 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 4: Non Russian, non Chinese companies will be very interested. Our 460 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 4: refineries in the Gulf Coast of the United States are 461 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 4: the best in terms of refining this heavy crued and 462 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 4: there's actually been a shortage of heavy crud around the world. 463 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 4: So I think there will be tremendous demand and interests 464 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 4: from private industry if given the space to do it, 465 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 4: If given the opportunity to do it. 466 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't there be? 467 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 2: And the bottom line is what the Democrats don't understand 468 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 2: is this will enrich again the people of Venezuela. Remember 469 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 2: all this was stolen from them, and it'll be great 470 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 2: for America too and beyond. I want to bring in 471 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: now equity and fund manager, founder of Cardone Capital Grant. 472 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: Cardone is with us. Grant, welcome with the program. Great 473 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: to see you. 474 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 2: Well, it's great to see you. I got to meet 475 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 2: you over Thanksgiving. You said to come on the program. 476 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 2: Here you are, and what a day to come on. 477 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 2: Your thoughts about the. 478 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: Weekend and where we are now and maybe what this 479 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: means for the everyday American. 480 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 5: Grant, Well, what it means is that Donald Trump is 481 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 5: doing exactly what he promised to the American people. Here 482 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 5: we are what eleven months. In eleven months, it's Gulf 483 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 5: of America. We have our border secure. I don't know 484 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 5: that people understand where Venezuela is. I'm in Miami tonight, Grant. 485 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 5: It's a forty five minute trip from where my house 486 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 5: is to be there. It's five hundred miles. It's the 487 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 5: distance between Miami and Tampa. And so I think what 488 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 5: Donald Trump did here was again follow up on the 489 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 5: promise he made to the American people. When we think 490 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 5: about a border, we think about Canada and Mexico. Five 491 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 5: hundred miles is not very far away. And a lot 492 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 5: of drugs have come from there. And like you said, 493 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 5: our oil companies were ripped off by Madua. We went 494 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 5: back down there. China is absolutely creating a base there. 495 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 5: This is the western hemisphere. This is not across the planet. 496 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 5: And he did this in four hours. Man, like what 497 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 5: he did. It took Bush what eight years, forty five 498 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 5: hundred deaths, trillions of dollars, and Donald Trump executed in 499 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 5: one night, in less than four hours, without hurting anyone, 500 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 5: without anybody dying, without destruction of property. Bang problem solved 501 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 5: now we'll put the right person down there, and we'll 502 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 5: have control of our borders. 503 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: This is what he promised. 504 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 5: Also, gas prices are coming down, Oil prices are coming down, 505 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 5: Stock markets booming four to one case should be exploding 506 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 5: right now. 507 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: The goals, the silvers, for those of you. 508 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 5: Who do not believe in the dollar, those are banking 509 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 5: And I believe the only thing left for him to do, Grant, 510 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 5: is to fix Jerome pal get him out of there, get. 511 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: A fed in there that has some common sense. 512 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 5: Lower interest rates don't destroy housing prices, but because there's 513 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 5: too much home equity for Americans there, get interest rates 514 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 5: to the three and a half to four percent range, 515 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 5: and this economy is going to be just booming. 516 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 2: So I saw that on your exicount. I think everybody 517 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 2: out there knows that. Grant cardone. You're a big real 518 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: estate guy. You love real estate in fact, and the. 519 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: Four percent interest rate seems to be. 520 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: A sweet spot where you keep the price of your 521 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: real estate up yet you can afford a mortgage. I 522 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: think the days of the two point seven percent, which 523 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 2: I have, by the way, my house is phasically free money, 524 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 2: they're probably gone, but seventy percents out of control. 525 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: Nobody can afford a house grant. Yeah, well that's what's 526 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: made housing unaffordable. 527 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 5: I mean, the twenty largest cities in America, the mortgage 528 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 5: is almost double. 529 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: What the rent. Is the only way to fix that, Okay. 530 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 5: I had somebody hit me today and said, we want 531 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 5: lower home prices. 532 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: Be careful what you asked for. 533 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 5: Man, You don't want lower home prices if you're a 534 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 5: property owner. What you want is a lower payment to 535 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 5: be able to afford that home so that you can 536 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 5: enter into it. 537 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: And then the. 538 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 5: Idea is if, oh, lower interest rates are going to 539 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 5: mean more inflation, Well, the truth is this is American. 540 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 5: We have the greatest country on planet Earth, greatest consumer 541 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 5: economy in the world. It's unmatched by anyone. We should 542 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 5: have the cheapest money on the planet. Americans should not 543 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 5: be paying twenty percent of MasterCard and Visa and it shouldn't. 544 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: Even be allowed. By the way. Trump wants to fix that. 545 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 5: He also wants to fix your home martgage so that 546 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 5: it could maybe be a sub three percent. I think 547 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 5: he would actually entertain getting them back to those to 548 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 5: those levels. And he's also going to build a bunch 549 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 5: of homes in this first quarter, they're going to announce 550 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 5: him and book Bill poolty over Fanny May and Freddie Mack. 551 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 5: I believe we're going to announce the largest bill out 552 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 5: of new homes that has taken place in Americans seventy years. 553 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: All right, and think about it. To build homes, what 554 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: does that take? 555 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: It takes a lot of jobs, like working class jobs 556 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: that put real money in real people's pockets. The other 557 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: side that I'm worried about of that may take jobs. 558 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: I think people are going to have to figure out 559 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 2: a way not to be the task. This is what 560 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: I tell people in a world of AI. Don't be 561 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: the task. Your thoughts about AI and where we're headed 562 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 2: on that front. 563 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 5: Hey, look, we need plumbers, man, we need hvac people, 564 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 5: we need roofers. Guys, you don't even need to worry 565 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 5: about the AI yet. Okay, So what you need to 566 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 5: worry about is where's the opportunity in Americas with plumbers, 567 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 5: h bat roofers, landscapers. There's so much money that could 568 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 5: be made in this country. We have a booming, booming 569 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 5: economy where people want things done for them. AI is 570 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 5: that like it's going to do something for him, It's 571 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 5: going to give me intelligence without me having to go 572 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 5: to college. I would just tell Americans, we are a 573 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 5: great economy. You have to find those little places. This 574 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 5: is what I've done in my career. I found those 575 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 5: little places in the marketplace where I knew it would 576 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 5: be good for me and my family. 577 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: I could solve somebody's problems. 578 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 5: And I think plumbers and hvac and roofers and guys 579 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 5: repairing homes and the handyman is going to be the 580 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 5: doctor of the nineteen fifties in the year twenty twenty six. 581 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,959 Speaker 2: And I think people will have to understand that you 582 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: can build businesses around that. So you go in and 583 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: you be a plumber or a handyman. That doesn't mean 584 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: you got to stay on the job as a plumber 585 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 2: and handyman. You can start hiring people to do your work. 586 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 2: I had a sixteen year old come to my house 587 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 2: to sell me windows, and you know what, an eighteen 588 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 2: years old showed up to do the windows. 589 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: The sixteen year old had the eighteen year old working 590 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: for them. 591 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, and these things are almost forgotten trades and concepts 592 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 5: today because everybody wants to to somehow think that AI 593 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 5: is going to solve all your problems. AI is not 594 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 5: going to get rid of the basic personality, the energy, 595 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 5: the ethics, the persistence of the individual, these things that 596 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 5: Donald Trump has. 597 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: By the way, Okay, this is a guy that. 598 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 5: Promised to do something eleven months ago and this weekend 599 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 5: he's going hard. Okay, the American people weren't asking for that. 600 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 5: He went in there knowing it would cost him something. 601 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 5: He got in and he got out. That's the way 602 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 5: a businessman operates. And so I'm really really excited about 603 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 5: this year. I think it's going to be a great 604 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 5: year for those people that put their head down, stay focused, 605 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 5: and look for the opportunities. Because Donald Trump wants everybody 606 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 5: to make a lot of money. He's never ever been 607 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 5: shy about that. He wants every family to load up 608 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 5: and make more money than the banks make. 609 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: He does. 610 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 2: He wants a prosperous America and prosperous Americans. 611 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: Last question for you, Grant. 612 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: I've been following you a long time and I love 613 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: what you do because you also want that for people, 614 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: and I think that's a big part of success, is 615 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: when you help others get success. 616 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: Nobody's done that more than you. 617 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: I feel like and correct me if I'm wrong. Your 618 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 2: boldness on the political subjects has increased over the last 619 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: couple of years or so, Am I right? 620 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: And if so, why, well? 621 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 5: Because I own property, dude, because I have a family. 622 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 5: I have two beautiful kids in a marriage, and I 623 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 5: owned businesses, and I don't want people taking my stuff 624 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 5: away from you. I worked too hard to get it. 625 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 5: I came from the middle class. Nobody gave me anything, 626 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 5: I mean nothing. I was in debt when I was 627 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 5: twenty five years old, and I am a product of 628 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 5: the American dream, ethics, intelligence, energy. Put those three things 629 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 5: together and don't quit, and you can do anything you want. 630 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think there's any way I could 631 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 5: have done this in many other countries, but I did 632 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 5: it here. Maybe I could have I don't know, but 633 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 5: I did it here. I love this country, and I 634 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 5: want to see more people doing well. If you're the 635 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 5: only person doing well everybody around you is broke and broken, 636 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 5: then you're not doing well either. So it's in my 637 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 5: best interest that other people start looking at We lived 638 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 5: in California for twenty five years. I absolutely loved it, Grant. 639 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 5: I left there fourteen years ago because I knew that 640 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 5: they were no longer interested in me as a citizen 641 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 5: of that place, and they wanted to rob me and 642 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 5: steal from me. And you know, fourteen years later, I 643 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 5: was very right on that. So I'm more politically. I'm 644 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 5: it's not really politics that I'm interested in. It's freedom. 645 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: I want. I want my freedom. 646 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 5: And you know, we were trying to buy real estate 647 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 5: in New York City when Trump got his four hundred 648 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 5: and fifty million dollar fine on him, and we pulled 649 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 5: out of all those deals because I'm like, they'll do 650 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 5: it to him, they'll do it to me. So we're 651 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 5: in Florida, Texas and Tennessee and doing great business. 652 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 2: Well, it's so great to have you on the program. 653 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 2: It's so great to get to know you from one 654 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: Grant to another. It's not a lot of us out. 655 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 5: There, you know what, But do you know what your 656 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 5: name means? Tell me the name Grant means a guarantee. 657 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 5: You always do what you say you're gonna do. 658 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: Well, there you go. I tell people I'm rit ninety 659 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: five percent of the time. 660 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 2: So that's a pretty dark good. That's great, guard Own. 661 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: Thank you buddy for coming on. Absolutely great to talk 662 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 2: to you at Grant cardone. You can follow him on X. 663 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: All right, folks. In twenty twenty three, a patriot was 664 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 2: charged with reposting a photo of a man in a 665 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 2: women's room. Oh right, we restroom. Now X has stepped 666 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 2: up to support her legal case. 667 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: We'll get into that next. Welcome back everyone. 668 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 2: Look, we know a huge problem is men in women's restrooms, 669 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 2: men pretending to be women. I'm sure if you're like me, 670 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 2: you've shared posts of men in women's restrooms. I'd do 671 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 2: it on this program, I'd do it on social media 672 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 2: all the time. 673 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: You ever think you'd get. 674 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 2: Charged with a crime for doing that, Well, that is 675 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 2: exactly what happened to the Texas Williamson County Republican Party 676 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 2: chairperson Michelle Evans. 677 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: She just shared some but. 678 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 2: He's post and the district attorney charged her with the crime. 679 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 1: I want to bring Michelle Evans into the program. Michelle, welcome, Hey, 680 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: thank you for having me. 681 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 8: Happy New Year. 682 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: Well, happy new year to you too. So you face 683 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: a criminal case, is that correct? 684 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 9: Yes, the state jail felony sex offense. 685 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 2: All right, tell me why that is a state jail 686 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 2: felony in the eyes of a radical Democrat anyway. 687 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 9: Yes, so in the eyes of a Travis County District 688 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 9: Attorney Jose Garza, I am guilty or should be investigated 689 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 9: at least for the sex crime of invasive recording. Part 690 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 9: of that particular penal code in Texas says that if 691 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 9: you even share a photo of somebody in this private space, 692 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 9: then you can be charged with a state jail felony 693 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 9: sex crime. 694 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 1: All right. 695 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 2: So, for everybody out there that doesn't know Texas politics, 696 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 2: the Travis County and the district attorney, there is a 697 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 2: radical goes after Republican lawmakers, just tries to make splashes 698 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 2: all the time. You the whole Michelle had somebody come 699 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 2: to your rescue in some respects and that's Elon Musk 700 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 2: and the platform X. He vowed he would support free speech. 701 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 2: He's doing that in your case. Tell me what happened 702 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 2: and how this works now with X. 703 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 9: So, after the Department of Public Safety officers confiscated my 704 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 9: phone on May twelfth of twenty twenty three, within weeks 705 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 9: I found out that I was being investigated for the 706 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 9: sex crime. We filed a lawsuit saying that this was 707 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 9: protected political speech. The man in the photo had already 708 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 9: announced that he was running for a state house. So 709 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 9: we argue that this is an unconstitutional application of the law. 710 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,720 Speaker 9: On December ninth of twenty twenty five, eighteen months after 711 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 9: the fact, more than eighteen months after the fact, actually, 712 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 9: the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals issued a panel opinion, 713 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 9: a two to one opinion, saying that Jose Garza should 714 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 9: be able to go ahead with the investigation. And within 715 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 9: a couple of weeks we got an email from Elon 716 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 9: Musk's legal team saying that they have invested interest in 717 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 9: the case and would like to see this through with us. 718 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 9: So they announced last Monday that they are proud to 719 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 9: support my case and take this as far as it 720 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 9: needs to go. 721 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: All right, So what does that mean for you? Are 722 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 1: they picking up the legal fees? 723 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 2: Are they there are attorneys actively involved in all of this. 724 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 2: What does it actually mean other than because I worry. Look, 725 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 2: I like X, I like Elon Musk. I just don't 726 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 2: want it to be lip service. Hey, we are going 727 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 2: to take a role and then you know, nothing happens. 728 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 9: Well, my personal attorney has already filed a petition to 729 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 9: do what's called an on bunk request. So having the 730 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 9: entire Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals take up my case, 731 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 9: and they have said that they will come in and 732 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 9: sup that and even further if needed, the details of 733 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 9: which I'm not super clear about yet. There's been no 734 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 9: discussion about financial support, which is kind of how the 735 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 9: rest of the media has interpreted their statement about supporting 736 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 9: the case. I still have legal fees being incurred from 737 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 9: my personal attorney, who is running point on all of this, 738 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 9: and we are just waiting for a response from the 739 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 9: Fifth Circuit to see what happens next. 740 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 2: Well, look, it is Texas, and when you start to 741 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 2: get into the appellate court systems, they tend to side 742 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 2: more with freedom and the Constitution than certainly other states do. 743 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: Michelle. Your thoughts though on all of this. 744 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,760 Speaker 2: I mean, we have a real problem in this country 745 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 2: where we think it's okay now, or people in this 746 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 2: country think it's okay that men can just go waltzing 747 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 2: into women's restrooms, and then they end up charging the 748 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 2: good guy, the law abiding citizen, with a crime, you, Michelle, 749 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 2: rather than like stopping the bad behavior. 750 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 9: Yes, and it's important to note that I was sort 751 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 9: of a well known political activist at the capitol for 752 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 9: a hearing. I'm sorry the House floor debate on the 753 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 9: bill to ban gender modification for miners in Texas in 754 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 9: twenty twenty three. I had advocated strongly for that bill, 755 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 9: so people knew who I was based on that, and 756 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 9: the Department of Public Safety lieutenant came straight to me 757 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 9: within hours of that going viral on Twitter. The man 758 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 9: is not facing the camera. He's fully dressed, washing his 759 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 9: hands at the sink. This was not invasive. This was 760 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 9: not a matter of his consent being violated. In fact, 761 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 9: it was a matter of our consent being violated by 762 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 9: him going into a women's only space. And things have 763 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 9: come full circle in Texas now we've passed the Women's 764 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 9: Privacy Act, which forbids men from being in women's private 765 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 9: spaces in public buildings like the Capitol where we were. 766 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 2: Well, it makes me think you don't have to be 767 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 2: President Trump for them to use the full force of 768 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 2: the judicial system to try to silence you. 769 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: They'll do it to any one of us if they can. 770 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 2: And I'm grateful there are people out there like you 771 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 2: speaking up, Michelle Evans, and. 772 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm appreciative of that. 773 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 2: All Right, folks, we are back in a flash. 774 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back everyone. 775 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 2: How many of you have failed a new year's resolution, 776 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 2: whether it's a stop smoking, maybe it's to get healthy. 777 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 1: To those things of course go hand in hand. Just 778 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: watch this for a second. 779 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 10: So we started in the August five, five five. It 780 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 10: was amazing. We lost We lost weight that first week. 781 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 10: I've gone down five notches on my belt. If you 782 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 10: just follow the program, it works. I mean, this is 783 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 10: so simple and so doable. And so I just thank y'all. 784 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 11: I have no more body aches. 785 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 9: My mind does clear, my endurance is up, my heart 786 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 9: is just fuller. 787 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm able to give more and be more present. 788 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 7: It's changed our marriage. 789 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 10: It's changed our relationship, and it's so sustainable. 790 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,399 Speaker 7: I can't say enough. 791 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: This has been life changing, folks. 792 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 2: The Energized Hell system is a total mind, body, soul change. 793 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 2: It really is for the better, of course, and what 794 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,439 Speaker 2: better time to start. Then they have the my five 795 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 2: to five to five challenge going on. And it's the 796 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 2: new year, folks. Let me bring in now the founders 797 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 2: of Energized Health, John and Chelsea, you believe to the 798 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,879 Speaker 2: both of you, Happy new Year, welcome back, Happy New Year, 799 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 2: Happy new year. All right, it's great to have you 800 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 2: both on Chelsea. Why don't I start with you because 801 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 2: I usually have your husband on, so right off the bat, 802 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 2: John and I talk a lot about people failing at 803 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 2: New Year's resolutions. This should be the last time anybody 804 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 2: fails if they start this My five five to five 805 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 2: Challenge and ultimately go onto the Energized Health Protocol. 806 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 11: Your thoughts, Chelsea, Yes, Well, I just can base it 807 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 11: off the facts of helping tens of thousands of people 808 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 11: achieve all of their goals. You know, whether it's to 809 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,240 Speaker 11: lose weight, whether it's to get rid of an ailment 810 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 11: or a disease that you're struggling with, or maybe you 811 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 11: just want to feel better, maybe your marriage isn't where 812 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 11: you want it to be relationally, Look, we have the 813 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 11: system for you. Join themyfive five to five Challenge dot 814 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 11: com because it truly will transform your life in every area. 815 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 2: John, I take it it's not a coincidence that the 816 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 2: My five to five to five Challenge is going on 817 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 2: right at the start of the new year, because it 818 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 2: really sets you up for success. 819 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 12: John Well Grant, we want this. Listen, you guys that 820 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 12: are watching us today, Listen. We want this to be 821 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,879 Speaker 12: the last New Year's resolution you ever make. This can 822 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 12: be the last one you make, because it's the last 823 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 12: one you need to make. And I can tell you, guys, 824 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 12: my story is, I tried ten years. Nothing worked for me. 825 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 12: Everything was a failure. All I did was lost. Yeah, 826 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 12: I lost weight, all right, but I lost water and 827 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 12: I lost muscle, same thing all you guys are doing too, 828 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,720 Speaker 12: if you just lose weight. But when I found this, guys, 829 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 12: I lost my fat. I lost my visceral fat, my 830 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 12: subcutaneous fat. I reversed my high blood pressure. I reversed 831 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 12: all of my joint pain, my brain fog. 832 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: And you guys can too. This can be the last 833 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: program that you ever do. 834 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 12: That's why we're doing it, grant so that people can 835 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 12: have their last New Year's resolution and their best New 836 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 12: Year's resolution they've ever done. 837 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 2: All Right, So, Chelsea, they talk about you guys talk 838 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 2: about getting hydrated at a cellular level, and this is 839 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 2: really the scientific key to all of that. 840 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: Can you give us a little explainer as to what 841 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: that means? 842 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:50,879 Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely well. 843 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,240 Speaker 11: In the My five five to five Challenge, we obviously 844 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 11: break that down. And we also offer VIP, which I'm 845 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 11: going to talk about a little bit here on the 846 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 11: show because it is going to answer the question you 847 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 11: just asked the bioimpedance device. So we should all know 848 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 11: what our hydration levels are. Most of ninety eight percent 849 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 11: of people we talked to have no clue what their 850 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 11: hydration levels are. 851 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 7: What does that mean? 852 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 11: How hydrated is your body? Your organs needed to function. 853 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 11: It's actually the number one thing you should know about 854 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 11: what's going on in your body. We will ship you 855 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 11: a device that can tell you how hydrated you are. 856 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 11: With that being said, it will measure your hydration inside. Now, 857 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 11: our body is all made up of cells, right, trillions 858 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 11: of cells. So intracellular hydration is basically taking hydration nutrition, 859 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 11: things that you're eating, you're drinking, infusing the cell to 860 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 11: get all of the inflammation and everything out of the body, 861 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 11: and hydrating the cell at the cellular level. A lot 862 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 11: of us we're drinking water we know we should be, 863 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 11: but it's not penetrating the cell. So that is in short, 864 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 11: what intracellular hydration is is hydrating the cells to get 865 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 11: the organs to function at their fullest. 866 00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you it made such a huge 867 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 2: difference for me. I lost fifteen pounds in two weeks 868 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 2: once I started the energized health protocol and doing everything 869 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 2: that you all spelled out to do. And it was 870 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,399 Speaker 2: fairly easy, really simple. It was probably the best word 871 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 2: to use for all of this. John, your wife mentioned 872 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 2: this bio device that measures so many levels. Tell people 873 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 2: how they can get it, and then I'll tell people 874 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 2: how to get on the my five to five to 875 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:23,280 Speaker 2: five challenge. 876 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 12: Yeah, so, guys, when you register today, make sure you 877 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 12: register today. About forty five minutes a day we'll spend 878 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 12: with you the next five days. It's at your convenience. 879 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 12: You can watch it, you know, on video at your convenience. 880 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 12: But guys, just up level to the VIP, up level 881 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 12: to the VIP. It's ninety nine dollars, ninety nine dollars, 882 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 12: and listen, we have a twenty eight year track record, 883 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 12: tens of thousands of success stories. You can have your 884 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 12: best health and this can be your last New Year's resolution. 885 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,399 Speaker 1: Well, you guys are so great, and you're so great 886 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: for supporting this program and Real America's Voice, and you've 887 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: helped countless viewers of this network and members of Stinchfield's 888 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: Army were grateful for that. The numbers are only going 889 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 1: to grow in twenty twenty six guys, let me tell 890 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,439 Speaker 1: them how they can find y'all and become a part 891 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: of the My five five five Challenge. 892 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,359 Speaker 2: Just go to myfive five five challenge dot com. Join 893 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 2: the five five to five Challenge for just five dollars. 894 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 2: That's five dollars five pounds in five days. Guarantee you'll 895 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 2: learn the science, experience and difference, and if you want 896 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 2: to go deeper, upgrade. As John said to that VIP, 897 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,839 Speaker 2: get a personalized guidance and hydration tracking device to help 898 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,240 Speaker 2: you measure your results in real time. Again the website 899 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:43,800 Speaker 2: My five five five challenge dot com. All right, outgoing 900 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 2: Democrat congress Woman Jasmine Crockett is hugely upset with the 901 00:46:48,920 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 2: Supreme Court over Texas redistricting. Welcome back everyone, So Congresswoman 902 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,839 Speaker 2: Jasmine Krockt. We know she's a radical, we know she's 903 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,800 Speaker 2: out of control. We know she's quite frankly, quite a 904 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 2: bit of a ding dong when you get down to it. 905 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 2: She's upset about Texas redistricting because we're gaining five Republican 906 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 2: seats in this state. 907 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: That's a good thing, by the way, maybe that's why 908 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: she's mad. Listen to her. 909 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 13: Kudos to Indiana for saan you. Kudos to California for 910 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 13: saying we're gonna fight back. Definitely, kudos to the Trump 911 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 13: justice who wrote the one hundred and sixty page opinion 912 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 13: denouncing what took place in Texas, and due to the 913 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 13: Supreme Court for what they did. 914 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 5: Well. 915 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 2: I've actually liked to give Jasmine Crocket a kudos. Kudos 916 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 2: to you for stepping down from your House seat to 917 00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 2: run for the United States Senate in Texas. Because you 918 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 2: will out of public office in very short order. There's 919 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 2: no way you're winning that race, so kudos for getting 920 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,439 Speaker 2: into it. That's gonna do it for us, folks. Great 921 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 2: to see Euston Shield's army rolls. We'll see you tomorrow night, 922 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 2: seventeen mis