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Speaker 1: M hm m hm. Welcome back to another edition of

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Speaker 1: All the Smoke. Jack's been a good day, man. We've

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Speaker 1: had some some good guests, some great conversations, and we

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Speaker 1: get to finish it off strong. Oh you're Mike. Great

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Speaker 1: way to finish it. Lame it on the weed, not

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Speaker 1: his heart. That's right. We got a special guest man

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Speaker 1: fresh off Coachella. Uh, someone we look up to, UH

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Speaker 1: learn a lot from and it's an honor to have

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Speaker 1: him sit down on this couch with us. Man, kill

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Speaker 1: the Mike. Welcome to the show. Bro. Yes, let the

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Speaker 1: boy take you too. Seriously, it's my birthday. Fault twining off. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got him a haircut in here, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. We took here and you know you came,

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Speaker 1: You came and got pamper. We want to take care

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Speaker 1: of you. Forward to man, what y'all did for me today.

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Speaker 1: My goal is to take to every NBA arena. Man.

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Speaker 1: We have a swag shop, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: and it's blossoming and Stay Farm arena. But I want

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Speaker 1: to be in all of them. I want to be

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Speaker 1: in Dallas. Talk to us what that explained to people

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Speaker 1: aren't familiar what that is? Well, usually you know, as

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Speaker 1: a man, you go to barbershop. That's the one hour

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Speaker 1: a week it belongs to you if you're a hip woman,

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Speaker 1: because a lot of women come and get the eyebrows,

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Speaker 1: get their face. That's the place where you ain't got

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Speaker 1: to worry about argue in which points of who's shoving

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Speaker 1: into now, because you're coming in there, you running the floor.

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Speaker 1: Like so, barbershop is a special kind of culture. Really

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Speaker 1: is a country club of working class man. And I

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Speaker 1: thought that you should be shave Washington groom there total

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Speaker 1: you know. So me and my wife started barbershop about

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Speaker 1: nineteen years ago near the Atlanta Airport. It grew to

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Speaker 1: Edgewood Avenue, which, like the bar Dish in Atlanta, got

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Speaker 1: invited to gore and stay farm. Now I aim is

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Speaker 1: to make that forty five minutes the one hour a

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Speaker 1: week you get just about you come in listening to

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Speaker 1: dope music, get a shot, get a straight raye shaver,

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Speaker 1: Add to the culture. Next week you might have a

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Speaker 1: do the problem with you. It is made fun the

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Speaker 1: people by the people there. We we gotta buy later. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so we go, oh yeah, you gotta hear the cushat

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Speaker 1: some boys. You gotta do some cushot. We'll give you

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Speaker 1: you good shouts out of the big ball, low back now. Man.

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Speaker 1: But the shop, the shop is so so successful, man,

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Speaker 1: you know, I live in Atlanta. It shot so successful

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Speaker 1: that motherfucker's tried to vandalize it and tried to shut

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Speaker 1: and was appreciated so much by the community. They tried it. Well,

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Speaker 1: Ama go on saying the devil state business young man. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: man who's played with mental illness and he um, he

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Speaker 1: career was like that. I came out in a real

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Speaker 1: Card and me and A L created an album called

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Speaker 1: Rap Music. This is a tenth year that record came out.

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Speaker 1: That record changed the trajectory of my career. You know.

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Speaker 1: in a way like like this is another killer Mike.

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Speaker 1: It's not just a guy who is a protege of

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest rap roots in the world. This

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Speaker 1: to do essentially what was the mixtape called Run the

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Speaker 1: Jews one. Running Jules one put us in rooms. What

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Speaker 1: to opening for Raging and Some Machine for their reunion tour,

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Speaker 1: which you take us through April of next year, has

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Speaker 1: And then ten years after rap music and ten nine

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Speaker 1: happy to be here. And that's why Folks is gonna

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Speaker 1: Coachell after this in a few days. Beautiful. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: during your set we need to change this country. Can

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Speaker 1: you elaborate on that we do. We don't have to

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Speaker 1: And we need to start insisting that people that we

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Speaker 1: Who's your prosecutor, who's your mayor going to appoint police chief,

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Speaker 1: who's your city councilperson who's running for Senate right now

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Speaker 1: named Kwamie and I mean Quansa. I'm sorry, Quansa is

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Speaker 1: more progressive marijuana stands. But what does that matter? Like,

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Speaker 1: but more than smoke. Country folks got land. You might

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Speaker 1: know when I'm where I'm from, if all people told

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Speaker 1: He's done something terrible enough to die for. About other cultures,

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Speaker 1: But tell, but tell, talk to us about the Lanta

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Speaker 1: come up now to to this day that's way younger

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00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 1: than him. If you asked them who was the man

426
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 1: in Houston, They're all gonna praise one first. You know

427
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Brad Jordan, And now you're going to

428
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 1: listen to all your top the people you call your

429
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,360
Speaker 1: goats have all nodded to him. It's nodded to him.

430
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,359
Speaker 1: Drey and Big dalcast and added to jay Z is

431
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,119
Speaker 1: not a to him, like like man the stuff him

432
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 1: Ja and bean Z Like. I think that that every

433
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:15,120
Speaker 1: generation should always be reminded to go back and listen

434
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,959
Speaker 1: to Brad the same way you may know col Trane,

435
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,200
Speaker 1: but you have to be reminded sometimes go back and

436
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 1: listening to that love of Supreme so you really understand

437
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 1: like what jazz can do. You know, go back and

438
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,960
Speaker 1: listen to someone. These moms go back and go back

439
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,920
Speaker 1: and remember that it's a culture. It's not just the moment.

440
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 1: It's not just hot now. There is literally a culture.

441
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 1: Boy Meets a Girl man that that record. My wife,

442
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 1: me and her ride sometimes and she plays it like

443
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,160
Speaker 1: we ride sometimes we're writing her beans we play. We'll

444
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,119
Speaker 1: play on some Sinatra, we'll play some Dean, you know,

445
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 1: we'll play something that we we played, trying to play

446
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 1: some alternative stuff besides just what you're hearing on radio

447
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 1: or what even I'm doing. And she'll always on the

448
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 1: ride back play that Boy Meets Girls, essentially about a

449
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 1: strip on the deep one talking about cocaine and heir man.

450
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 1: But it's such a beautiful story, Shakespearean like the way

451
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 1: he tells it, you know what I mean. And so

452
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 1: I think this as an mc man, he's he's like

453
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 1: high art and fine literature even musically what he's on

454
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 1: in terms of producing, in terms of you know, we

455
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 1: know Mike Dean and many of us for the sound.

456
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 1: He's helped Kanye Cray, Mike Dean. Also the co craft

457
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 1: of that corner stone with that rapp list sound was

458
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 1: when he and Face when they're doing together. So you

459
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 1: even hearing face. In my opinion, you know his his

460
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 1: reaching going even beyond lyricism and it's just producing and sound. Yeah.

461
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 1: I got a two or three songs with him. That's fun,

462
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 1: Like maybe two days in studio with him just picking

463
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:40,959
Speaker 1: his brain. And then we shot the video. And when

464
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 1: we shot the video by the Donald Sterling, it's face

465
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 1: so nobody want to speak by the time, but he

466
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 1: pulled it out. We're gonna do it. You're back to player.

467
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna speak on it. But he dope. Man, don't

468
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 1: you touched on earlier about attending more House. What was

469
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 1: that experience like? And hel come it didn't last that long.

470
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: I was the most beautiful, beautiful, beautiful time in my life.

471
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 1: Man on a Bassador andrewyan Form, Mayor of Atlanta, man

472
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 1: creating in scholarship to me here and then all I

473
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 1: had to do was read his autobiography and get inspired

474
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: by and I did it, told him what I thought

475
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 1: about it, and he and his former wife on his

476
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: current wife's Carol. His former wife is um She the

477
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: late Jean child Young who taught my mother and mentor

478
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 1: me and was just an amazing human being. As as

479
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: his andy. They made sure I got him more house

480
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 1: um nat and working my butt off and getting my

481
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 1: grays up. My founier year high school and I met

482
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 1: the Ceel Reddick there, who's half of the Peat Buddies

483
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 1: who produced Kryptonite, who introduced me the Big Boys. I

484
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: was supposed to be there, you know. I met friends

485
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: I've had for life there. But I knew after the

486
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: first year that I was like, this is not what

487
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 1: I want to do. Not that I didn't want to

488
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: graduate more because I promised with my grandmother I would

489
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 1: and I still am, but I was like, I don't

490
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: want to be doing this now. I really want to

491
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 1: be in the music industry. There was so much opportunity

492
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 1: growing in Atlanta at that time. You got Eric Sermon

493
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 1: down there who tang like. I had a store down there, too,

494
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: Short was living. It was just opportunity was everywhere, just

495
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 1: so I was like, man, I'd rather go about the

496
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: beings and figure it out. The dumbest decision I could have,

497
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: I ended up getting a record of the same yea

498
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: I would have graduated, you know what I mean. So

499
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 1: I encourage your brothers, and if you're in there just

500
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: sticking there, you know, and if you can't get in

501
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 1: there yet, just go to trade school, spending may teen

502
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: months in there, come out making top dollar and still go.

503
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But I just, um, I

504
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 1: really dropped the ball and making that decision. But you

505
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: know I'm stubborn this ship. So once I made a decision,

506
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna quickly. Yeah, I wasn't gonna let nobody

507
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,959
Speaker 1: to tell on my grandmama. I told you so. Now.

508
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: So she got a chance to call all her friends

509
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: and said, I told you so, and so you see

510
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 1: my baby. He got a grammy baby he got You

511
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 1: can come see it if you want to, you know

512
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: what I mean. That made me feel good, you know

513
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: what I mean, because I know she called some ship

514
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: for that one. From definitely first impression of big boy

515
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: and man these names rich they had, Alexis Man, he

516
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: had Alexis got there rut that all I don't want

517
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: d D had a cat like first we had like

518
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: a land cruiser or some ship. Don't he have nickels

519
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: wearing the fucking Jordan's like niggas one just these niggas

520
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: rich man, like God, damn these niggad rich. But you

521
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: know getting it. I really, man, I'm gonna tell you

522
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: what I really when I really my thoughts are like

523
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 1: Dre was. Dre was arts as fun, he was kind,

524
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 1: he was humble, He's very intuitive. He was a good

525
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: person in his intent, you know what I'm saying. But

526
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: you could you could tell he was like an only child.

527
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: So he went with two munch of all the hanging

528
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: ship like he would hang out. But then he'll be

529
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 1: like Batman, he'll fading out, he'll goes out of sithing,

530
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you ended up being

531
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: around big in terms of studio and business more and

532
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 1: you gotta I got a chance to see, like, oh, Ship,

533
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: this is what it's like to be young and lead,

534
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like because he he had

535
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: an opportunity to lead, and he stepped up in terms

536
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 1: of business. He got business I think before a lot

537
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: of us did. And was it was a dog kunnel

538
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: or now having trailers for movie production and stuff. I

539
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: was always impressed with his maturity from a business standpoint.

540
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: Both of them were genius. His money because Trey's mother

541
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: goblins and dead and Sharon Benjamin was just an incredible woman.

542
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: And you know it took one mishout or some tax stuff,

543
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: and they they both tell the story going on the run,

544
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: getting that money up on you know, and never you know,

545
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 1: falling um in a rearge of any type. And it

546
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: was because Trey's mom was just a genius about making

547
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: sure that business were taken care of and I watched

548
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: her to do that, and I watched big when you

549
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: went to a hell of a businessman. So I've always

550
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: been It's like Jamal Mashburn, like a lot of people

551
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: can play basketball, a lot of people made a lot

552
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: of money, but Jamal, watching his interviews, seemed to have

553
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: called early that there this is gonna end one day,

554
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: and I should be playing some seeds right now that

555
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: are gonna grow. So I've always been impressed by that.

556
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: And from an artistic standpoint, just outc asks as a

557
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: collective man, I've always been impressing. I've used it in

558
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: terms of being a member around the Jewls with don't

559
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: let ship define you, like I remember Bunning calling me

560
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: telling me one day, like the beauty of what y'all

561
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: boys have is is undefinable, So do whatever the fun

562
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: y'all want. Y'all ain't got to be locked in the sound.

563
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: And that's what I learned from watching Trey and Big together.

564
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: And I got a chance to watch them together from

565
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: e t Elliens forward and and and seeing the way

566
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: they worked. It's just been amazing. And I'm like everybody else,

567
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: like I want to see Outcasts tour like the rollers

568
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: dollars for the next thirty or forty yells and so

569
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: I want to be able to take my kids the

570
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: Outcast concert. I pray. All you can do is as

571
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: a fan. I hope they did it for us a

572
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: few years ago. So you know, maybe again Big Big

573
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: not just doing dogs. He got alls now, yeah he

574
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: got he got I think he got tigers. Um, he

575
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: got like eighty thousand all of French bulldogs. Like yeah,

576
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: like he was here. Let's see it. Seeing ahead of

577
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: the curb around the corner is an understatement, especially, yeah,

578
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: eighty thousand all the dolls I paid it, thou all

579
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: they better have a motor, you know, yeah, for free

580
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: the whole world. You want to grant me for that?

581
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: How did your life change after? That? Took some anxiety off,

582
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: Like if I'm ever win one, because I want one,

583
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: and I know I wrapped my ass off, like that's

584
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: my type. Like if I've just been like on in

585
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: the background, Oh you know what I'm saying now, I wrapped,

586
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: I still it off my mother. I was in the game,

587
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: so but I want more. Man, I didn't run the

588
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: Jewels deserved, So that's that's my focus now, Like has

589
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: run the Jewels, you know, it's killing Mike. What am

590
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: I gonna do? But that decision to stay in the

591
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: studio that and that night showed me anything as possible.

592
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: When you went to work, everybody was went to the

593
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: strip club, I think I think everybody was hanging out,

594
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,479
Speaker 1: and Big was like, um, you might want to hang

595
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: around and see about getting on Nelson because I seen

596
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: somebody else was scheduled to get on it. Maybe maybe

597
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: give or something. And I hung around. I dropped the

598
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: first and when when they came back, they told me

599
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: they was keeping it and something else is supposed to

600
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: be the single. And then they called and told me

601
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: it was gonna be the single. When Brian Barber shouts

602
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: out to Brian shot the video and life haven't been

603
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: the same since. And I can say with the ups

604
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: and the downs, you know, I've always there's always been

605
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: somebody at the front of a restaurant that remembered the video.

606
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: They're like me and you know so well. I was

607
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: up a dial Yah. You had a chance to be

608
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: on Blueprint too with j C. How was working? How

609
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: was it working with old Man? I can honestly say

610
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: I love of God Man whole solid as they come

611
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: in terms of the times I've dealt with him because

612
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate the way he's dealt with me. He's never

613
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: dealt with me as over. You've never been kind of sending.

614
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: I remember after we did the verses on the Blueprint.

615
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: I remember he called being on the bus sage, I

616
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: want you to jump on this record with me, and

617
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: Big said, well, you don't know if Drada he said, no,

618
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: I want you on the young boy you got over

619
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: that might do something. So I was like I heard.

620
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: I was like, oh ship. I just went to the

621
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: whatever the flip thing was at the time I just

622
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: started writing. You know, that was when I still wrote

623
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: the verse is probably double that. I just used the

624
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: sex and Night had and Shantadas took me up to

625
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: meet and chopped it up. Wouldn't want me to the

626
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: studio chopped up, and I was like, I got the bird.

627
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: I dropped it. When I get back to Atlanta. Did

628
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: In in Atlanta popped up It's on there. But we

629
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: were in MTV and I've seen him coming a whole

630
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: bunch of people around him, you know, and he's not

631
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: like you know, fans stuff, just the people in the

632
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: office fanning out like it's hold in the building. And

633
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: I was just learning a while, I don't want to ball,

634
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: and he said, oh, you ain't gonna speak to me,

635
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: and I'll put you on my record and everything. One

636
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: of the funniest moments of my life. Man, you know

637
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because you know, I would imagine it's

638
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Speaker 1: like a vet when you were rookie. You know what

639
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: you're coming out of You're gonna talk to you. I

640
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: was just overcome with with with you know, with with

641
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: graciousness for him. He's always been like that, you know

642
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I just I like hold of

643
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: a lot. I really respect him a lot. I respect

644
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: I respect the inspiration he's given other people to become business.

645
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: After winning a Grammy working with Hole, you dropped your

646
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Speaker 1: studio Albumster in two thousand three. When you dropped the album,

647
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: you feel like you had already made it. No no, no, no, no,

648
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: no no, because this isn't you know. I went old,

649
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: this is in the air on people selling Timillion record.

650
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: I had flopped. But that's what a guy named David

651
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Speaker 1: the Globia records tell me about the profit and laws.

652
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: She showed me that I had actually profited, and Bunna

653
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: hit me and say, that's a good thing. You don't

654
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Speaker 1: want to be in the law section. It was the

655
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Speaker 1: labor the alley it this way. So bunn really walked

656
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: me through a few years of trying to end deciphon

657
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: this to it. I want to stay on a major label?

658
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: Do I want to? So by the time he came around,

659
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: I think Virgin made an offer winch Ams over there.

660
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: I walked away from the offer. I think they was

661
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Speaker 1: offering me like a hundred and twenty thousand all advanced

662
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: and a charger at the time or something right, And

663
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: I think I pressed the line on about the charge

664
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Speaker 1: to get a nigga call to you the lead with

665
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Speaker 1: the boy gotta got a call, you know, sound like

666
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: trying like I've seen the other lead. But they did it.

667
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: But I really didn't want the deal. And I remember

668
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Speaker 1: Bear coming to me every day like Mike and they

669
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Speaker 1: offering you, like, you know, they put another third or

670
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Speaker 1: fourth on what they was on for you listen, and

671
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: I was like, I just didn't want it. And I

672
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Speaker 1: was like, I think I'll do better doing it this

673
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Speaker 1: other way. Now, I didn't know the other way it

674
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Speaker 1: was gonna turn into the lyard. She was a fucking Greek,

675
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Speaker 1: fucking illage, you know. Just I didn't know I was

676
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: gonna lose people to death. I didn't know one of

677
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: the first grind time producers gonna get life in prison.

678
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: You know. I didn't know that friends was gonna show

679
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Speaker 1: themselves to be folds. I don't know I was gonna

680
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Speaker 1: lose you know, I fall out with my friends who

681
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Speaker 1: had changed my life with a record deal and take

682
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: years to me. I didn't know all that. Like, but

683
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: I can say coming out the other side and the

684
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: opportunity to repair those friendships, get an opportunity to grow

685
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: as a leader, to to grow beyond what you think

686
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Speaker 1: abouts is, to really bet on myself and win, and that,

687
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: you know, to have the pleasure to tell him, you know,

688
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: one of my trusted attorneys and my friend who says, man,

689
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe you walked away from hunting and saying saying, yeah,

690
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: that's about what I get on the date. Then I'm like,

691
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: so I turned away from a show him being proud

692
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: of saying I'm glad you had afforded to to do

693
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: it because it's scary. Man. You know it's scary and

694
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: it's not all you know. I'm not one to say

695
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: the labels are bag. I heard gonna say something incredibly

696
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: intelligent man, and he's a smart kid, but you get

697
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: sold so so used to just handle jam Is. It's

698
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: a pleasure for me to see him do interviews because

699
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: he's a brilliant kid. Him thug savage, like brilliant kids Atlanta.

700
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes you'll be so busy jam and you don't really

701
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: realize you're listening to a brilliant mind too. But Donal

702
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: was like, man, you look at the label when you're

703
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: talking to Lebron, it's like you're looking at like a

704
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: partnership that's taking a risk on YouTube. And now the

705
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: artists have gotten more savvy in terms of getting their

706
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: masters back and things of their nature. Now lawyers are

707
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: bullying up for that. But with on Lebron said, you know,

708
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Speaker 1: you come to the rookie, you take the work of contracts,

709
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: say it after them three years you will make him dump.

710
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: You were in dunk truck. And that's that's that's the

711
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: type of certain type of confidence in yourself, you know.

712
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: And I had that confidence again. I didn't know what

713
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: was gonna take for years or two, but man, I

714
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't trade it because of the wisdom of my game.

715
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: And on the other side of the person than human being,

716
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Speaker 1: I am is it's much more stable with what I

717
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: have than I would have been at that time. Where

718
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: did your love music come from? Whould like do? Who?

719
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Speaker 1: Did you autilize you face? Terms of I wanted to

720
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: be chante in terms of my love for music, though

721
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: that's just come from being Southern mina grandmother would take

722
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: us to these small and Pentecostal churches. Ain't got no

723
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Speaker 1: ac condition. But the rhythm sections, the same hym section

724
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: that were playing in the club the night before, you know,

725
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Speaker 1: the same folks is playing at the gambul And house.

726
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: Your grandfather got you here with the shot house. So

727
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: I fell in love with blues and gospel first because

728
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: that's what I heard, because that's what they played. And

729
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: then I fell in love past blues and gospel. I

730
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: started listening like Big Man Chance things of that nature.

731
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: But my mom when my mom left, when my grandmother,

732
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm living with my grandmother, and my mom left me

733
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: a record collection like Curtis Mayfield, Osley Brothers, you know,

734
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: Schaft sound track, Superflies. She just left and she just

735
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: showed me, you know how how to put it on.

736
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: And I just sit in the dark room and just listen,

737
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: listen and still do. So, you know, music is it's

738
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: just in my bones, just what it's what you do,

739
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: whether you're cleaning up, whether you're getting around, moving around,

740
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Speaker 1: you know. Just usually if I get up the first

741
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna play some gospel of some blues and we

742
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 1: get the rap by now Jack got to shoot him up,

743
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Speaker 1: Bang bang, going to six G K yes t G.

744
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: That's gospel. I mean blues. I've been get to my

745
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Speaker 1: pimp you I live, YEA know about PIMPC Then, man,

746
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: how we call with the name killer Mike, I did

747
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: the name giving me. I would have been like fly

748
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 1: fat Boy. I was battle rapping and dude ain't double

749
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: d stood up after I went through about like ten

750
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: of them dudes. Just like man, these kids are killing

751
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: say Mike's a killer, and then next week I can't

752
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: kill at New York, dudes called me killer killer Mike.

753
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: That was it. I've been obviously, I figured I earned it,

754
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: so you might as keep it. Yeah, it's not who

755
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: is double D? Double D's a DJ, some famous DJA. Yeah,

756
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: that's all about that. Yeah. Then ran through all the

757
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: strip clubs and then lit them up. Man being one

758
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: of the most famous names DJ in the last thirty

759
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: years in that city. We got great DJ from funky DJ,

760
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: Cutt Matter Swift whose outcast official DJs my home. What

761
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: we got Man? We got two many name DJ who

762
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Speaker 1: created with t I b High but tumping t I

763
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: created the trap scenes. The DJ is very important from

764
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: old Miami culture of course, Memphis culture of course, DJ

765
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: screw Houston culture, texts culture like the DJ is still

766
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: very important in the South. Street Man, come on with

767
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: the legend my friend, my real friend Street to call

768
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: you at five in the morning to give your life advice.

769
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Speaker 1: Fishing Man, rest in peace. Yeah, I'm glad I sent

770
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: him that verse Man back in December when he wanted it. Man. Yeah,

771
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Speaker 1: what pushed you to joint Tan Grand Hustle? No way,

772
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Speaker 1: that's my friend, Man, and I just you know how

773
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Speaker 1: you been on your your asked for a minute, you

774
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: start to get up. You're like, man, if I could

775
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: scale up a little bit, I can do a little better.

776
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Speaker 1: So him and Jason g I just asked, manuse do

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Speaker 1: some distribution through y'all. I need some help. And Man,

778
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Speaker 1: I remember telling to like, man, I wish I did

779
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: this ship a few years ago, and he was like, shoot,

780
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,959
Speaker 1: all you had to do was asks. And that's really

781
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: what I started to really understand that you have advocans

782
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: and the allies in the closed mouth don't get fans.

783
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: So if you need something and you know you can

784
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Speaker 1: do the job, just as you know what I mean.

785
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: And and Tip has been a friend over twenty years

786
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: at this point, but that really taught me, you know

787
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: what I mean, if you need man actual friends. How

788
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Speaker 1: cool is it to get your pistol on your fist

789
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Speaker 1: gesture in the Marvel Comics art talk about that? He said,

790
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Speaker 1: I laughed forever twelve years old. Man, I believe in

791
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Speaker 1: keeping that Twitter. You know that twelve thirteen. I'm sure

792
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 1: at one point you didn't know if you like basketball, toys, girls,

793
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: comic but you know what the funk you like the

794
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: most You're just like all these things like my fire,

795
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: So really for it with the comics is like that

796
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: for me, for me like to be featured man and

797
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: there for like, get the funk out of here. Man,

798
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: it's like you want to go back and here the

799
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Speaker 1: twelve you eight, all this ship canna work out. Yeah,

800
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: the girl with the big teed you're gonna marry her.

801
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: The comic you're gonna be an. So it's just a

802
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Speaker 1: twelve y'all happy. Yeah, you touched out a little bit more,

803
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: But I want to elaborate. You talked about going on

804
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: tour with Rage and me will start wind Man. That

805
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: starts we out of here in June. Okay. Yeah, we're

806
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: gonna go over to London, I think, do ten eleven

807
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: dates over there and in Europe, and then come back

808
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: over here, take the continual the United States by Storm,

809
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: take a break in the winter, then get back on

810
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Speaker 1: there and go through next April to be a whole year. Yeah,

811
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Speaker 1: beautiful and thank man, Thank Rage Man. You know, they

812
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Speaker 1: one of the greatest bands in the world, you know

813
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: what I mean. So it's it's comparable to someone saying, well, yeah,

814
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Speaker 1: y'all going out and opening prob it's a beautiful thing.

815
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Speaker 1: I was put in the position with Georgie, with George Floyd,

816
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: I had no idea what I was doing. I wasn't

817
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: educated or nothing. But you you one of those people

818
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: that I look up to that's always been educated. Always

819
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: your mind. But the disition between when you speak, you

820
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about, you know what I mean.

821
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: I just I just admired you from that standpoint. I

822
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: want to know what was going through your mind doing

823
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: that whole process. You ain't ever met me, but we

824
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Speaker 1: have text before, the publicist before and you gave me

825
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: some some great advice. But what was going through your

826
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Speaker 1: mind in the whole time again again again, you know,

827
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: again and again and again. You know it's first of all, man,

828
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Speaker 1: I think we just I just want to appreciate you

829
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: for your transparency to the process. I want to appreciate

830
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: you for being willing to stand because you know, people

831
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Speaker 1: think a lot of times because you don't speak a

832
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Speaker 1: certain way, or you don't know a certain thing, or

833
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Speaker 1: you haven't come up through certain channels, you don't have

834
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: the right to family. Blu Hamer wasn't taught to speak

835
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Speaker 1: in college, But you don't know you know Google Fanily.

836
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Speaker 1: You know Reverend James Orange, who's my personal friend and

837
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Speaker 1: taught me to organize. Who was played by the brother

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Speaker 1: olmartin the movie Selman. You know it's who talking persons

839
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Speaker 1: student the stock Can taught me to organize. You know,

840
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Speaker 1: brother was a brilliant brother man, was a statesman, a

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Speaker 1: spoken but was salt of the earth Alabama. And I

842
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Speaker 1: just say that because you have people like Testling Figura

843
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Speaker 1: out there that are working their ass off. She's right

844
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Speaker 1: down there in Houston right now. You know, she's Air

845
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Speaker 1: Force trained, veteran, yet big and and and and she's

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Speaker 1: solid to earth and speaking educated. You know, she can

847
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Speaker 1: talk up or down. How many you know what I mean?

848
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: You know, but the brother Cronk is doing this thing,

849
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: but testing them particularly um I look at because she's

850
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: a person that we need to be surrounding. Like Debora

851
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: in the Bible, we saw talking, she starts talking, we

852
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: all need to be paying attention. We all need to

853
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: be supporting her. Because the beautiful thing about brothers like

854
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: you stepping up and bringing the capital you bring from

855
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: being an admired athlete is if you look at this

856
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: like wrong, you look at a movie like Gladiator. The

857
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: people that are running us. So the people that are

858
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: the Caesars and the senators. If you notice they closed,

859
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: don't get there. They don't give a fuck, they don't

860
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: They are an oligarch. Look that word up. In this country,

861
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: we are the people in the stands cheering for you

862
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: guys on the behalf of whatever nation state, kill them killing.

863
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: We're in Texas killing, We're in Georgia, who runs the

864
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: Southeast Conference? All that ship. But oftentimes the oligarchy of

865
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 1: that class tries to get us to forget your individuality.

866
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: You're just supposed to be beast in a in a

867
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: member of a team that I'm cheering for blood for.

868
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: But what you do, what Jim Brown, did you know

869
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 1: what athletes do when they do this is they stand

870
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: up and they bring the attention and focus to what

871
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: needs to be focused on. And then what we have

872
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: to do is what they did in the sixties, what

873
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: they did as far back, is wrong, and what we

874
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: should be suing now is that after we say our

875
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: truth that this is wrong, something must be done about it.

876
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: Past that motherfucker like a no. Look to people like

877
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: Tesla because she has the facts, just the numbers, and

878
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: she's gonna nail their motherfucking as of a cross, because

879
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: that's what organizing is. You are a mobilizer. You're supposed

880
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: to be there. Your heart and conscious told you to

881
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: be there, and you're doing the exact same thing that

882
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: Dr King did when he had become so big he

883
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: couldn't be there on a weekly meeting every week. That's

884
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: what Snick was doing, That's what stokely called Michael John

885
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 1: Lewis was doing. King was going around rallying and making

886
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: sure bread was getting bread for the bread basket, making

887
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: sure that numbers were up in other places. Still an organizing,

888
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: but his part of it was the mobilization of getting

889
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: people there. And that's what your presence does, that's what

890
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: your voice does, and that's why we need more athletes

891
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: to be properly informed by the people who do the

892
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: work first. So get informed by your testlin is getting

893
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: informed by your organizations that are doing the work. Then

894
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: we know what our points are to say us as

895
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: athletes and entertainers, we say that, and then we passed

896
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: the by all like a no. Look that the people

897
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: was supposed to be So I think you did an

898
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: amazing job. And now I've always wanted to tell you

899
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: that too. You know, you you don't you don't know.

900
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: You brought a seriousness to it that didn't allow people

901
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: throughout the South to bullshit and people paid attention, you know.

902
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: And I say that because what we're from, we've seen

903
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: that a lot more a lott than people. You know.

904
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: That means that, that means a lot, bro Because like

905
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: you know, Bunning bunts up said some of me, some

906
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: important words. He's something in text before I went to Minnesota.

907
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: He was like, everything you've been through builty for this moment,

908
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: and he wanted to talk about brought uthor. He was

909
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: talking about the brawl and everything. You know. So just

910
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: to hear that from guys like, yeah, who, I look

911
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: up to it and a lot absolutely what y'all well

912
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: done man and everybody y'all follow testing figure on and

913
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: she yeah, she don't take no, she don't say no.

914
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 1: Super ship climbing, y'all need to get on here, y'alla.

915
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: She was gonna get on boys podcast. She's yeah. On Instagram,

916
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: you said you have you have you feel like you

917
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: have to be politically active? Yeah, you say that because

918
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: because politics affect now I pay top a lot of taxes.

919
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: Don't we pay by having when we're making taxes? So yeah,

920
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: already athletes make a hundred million dollars, Like then they

921
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: can bring home fifty for himself. You started telling my child,

922
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: I support ALAM. Yeah, so because my money pays My

923
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: money pays for the suits. So I want to know

924
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: what the fun is going on. And I mean that

925
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: on a very local level. And you know, the best

926
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: news I woke up to last week was to see

927
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: the mayor of Andre Dickens, who's from my neighborhood. Um,

928
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: that really was a ground swell that brought me over

929
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: to support him. Brothers like Zach who got the restaurant

930
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: Local Green down there. You know what my man Famou

931
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: famous artists down their both friends was like, check this

932
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: guy out. Already knew him and loved him as a

933
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: city council person, got down with him. I was whiskasine

934
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: at first, Casine got knocked out of primaries, gotten hind Andre,

935
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: We got on bringing there. The first thing he was

936
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: one of the first thing he was doing was taking

937
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: care of parks and filling potholes, Like like, you don't

938
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: know what that means to a neighborhood, that that really

939
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: came out and for years had been acquired peaceful neighbor

940
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: with all of a sudden potholes, handing up your grandmother's

941
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: man on cousin with the rims man. But he started

942
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: to fulfill the promise. You know, he started, and that's

943
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: a very little thing, but he said he was gonna

944
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: do it. That's a big thing, and he did it.

945
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: You know, when I look at our Republican governor who

946
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: appointed a Democrat over a committee that is specifically in

947
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: charge of making sure that people who are getting out

948
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: of prison have basic minimal needs so they're not increasing

949
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: the recidivism rate, that program comes directly out of a

950
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: black Democratic judge named Asha Jackson went to school of

951
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: me Superior Superior Judge UM in the Cab County. That

952
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: young woman created a program to direct people out of

953
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: jail and through a system over nine or twelve months

954
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: that put them back on a course for a solid life.

955
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: Got picked up statewide because a Republican saw the value

956
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: in it and appointed another black woman. You get what

957
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So for me, it's pragmatic because locally you're

958
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: just making deals. You're trying to make it work. But

959
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: to make sure the community gets something out of it.

960
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: So for me, all politics is local. It's sex. See

961
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: the argue of who the president was and who you

962
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: think is racist and all that Trump as ship. But

963
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: I'm from the South. We've dealt with a lot of races.

964
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 1: You know, Linda Bade Johnson was act but in the

965
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: South level, yeah exactly. I believe that locally that some

966
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: things can be done that are that are gonna make

967
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: places like Jackson, Mississippi, Birmingham, Alabama, Tampa, Florida. When you

968
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: start what Jackson, Mississippi, Jacksonville, Florida, I think you can

969
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 1: start seeing those places get more progressive and to become

970
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: more equitable in terms of money. And I don't mean

971
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: giving nobody no money. I mean giving us contracts. You know,

972
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: if if if I don't tend tractor trailers, I can

973
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: own a hunter tractor trailers. And if I can home

974
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: the toun of tractor trailers, I can get the government

975
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: contract and moves oranges up and down Florida's coast. And

976
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: why shouldn't it be one of us. We don't lay

977
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: it on the farms picking them. Our fathers taught us

978
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: how to drive a truck. All we have to do

979
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: is be organized enough to have a collective to say, now,

980
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,439
Speaker 1: if we make up this percentage of Florida, then these

981
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: percentage of truck should behind us. In Georgia the thirty five.

982
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: You know, we get less than two percent of the

983
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: statewide contracts in Georgia. Now, in my lifetime, i'd like

984
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: to see that move to somewhere between seven and a

985
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: half of ten percent. But we gotta target those things too.

986
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: You know, I put up something on my Instagram last week.

987
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 1: It was a brick and mortar class. All the students

988
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: and it were white. So that means we should be

989
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: bringing back brick and mortar classes. We should be bringing

990
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: back carpentry class and mechanical drafting to school's named out

991
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: the book to Washington for school's named after Frederick Douglass.

992
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 1: For school's named after CEO Harper. We have to start

993
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 1: thinking that intent. When they talk about building infrastructure, they're

994
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: talking about building highways, they're talking about refurbishing curves and

995
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: talking about building roads. Your sons, and I'm talking to

996
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: black people right now, can do this work. Look Jr.

997
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: May not make the pros, but his strong ass can

998
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 1: lay some concrets and he's gonna get paid a hundred

999
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: thousands better for doing it. He's gonna still have be

1000
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: able to buy you that car. He's gonna be able

1001
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: to take here of them chilling he made because he

1002
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: looked like he's dressing like a dope boy. Even though

1003
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: you're going to drug. He's gonna be able to have

1004
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: a stable woman and in the house and married at

1005
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: Girlly had him. He is back, but he's only gonna

1006
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: do it if we start make sure these boys in

1007
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: trade schools early six teen. I noticed the other day, Uh,

1008
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: I follow god name Mr Checkpoint and always the police.

1009
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 1: Good dude man talked to us a little bit about

1010
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: that because he had he was so proud when he

1011
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: had you. He posted what you said about him on

1012
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: his thought following this little crazy white white of caliphrazy.

1013
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: He's crazy at and I mean that in the best

1014
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: and it's I think maybe his honors grand on her

1015
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: grandmother would feed the meters when he was younger, though

1016
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: someone taught him justice early that. You know, citizens do

1017
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: non't matter what you think of your politicians government. It

1018
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: is always the government against you to some degree. Well, Mike,

1019
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: what do you mean by that? The government dude, any

1020
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 1: time you get a speeding ticket and they just said

1021
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: what you We're gonna charge you and pay you for that.

1022
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: That's not about saving lives and make you slow down.

1023
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: That's about adding additional taxes to your life. In my opinion,

1024
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: if we know you gotta part, do you want to

1025
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: stay building? If I gotta park, they go see us

1026
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: to my county commissioner, Why do I have to pay?

1027
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: I already pay taxes. And if you set up a

1028
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: punitive system that makes me have to pay a hundred

1029
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: bucks or twenty five bucks even because I didn't feed

1030
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: it with two dollars, you're making twenty three dollars off

1031
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: my mistakes. So someone in his life was a justice

1032
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: warrior and he has turned into one of epay proportions.

1033
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: He does everything from feed parking meters to ask police

1034
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: but why they don't have their video camerazon police of

1035
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: having to literally come up with counter ways. And this

1036
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: is me, you know, sitting here just like amazed that

1037
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: he's been able to cause this much routing, this with

1038
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: just a camera phone, but showing people how unjust the

1039
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: laws can be. Well not even just the police, the

1040
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: rule because a lot of times cops don't want you know,

1041
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: cops just got to write to smoke weed and something.

1042
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: I think you know a lot of cops that feel

1043
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: like locking things up. But if you got to make

1044
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: that quote to keep your job, you gotta make that

1045
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: quota to keep your job. So from for me, I

1046
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: see a lot of times it's less about the individual

1047
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: in the uniform and what the power of the uniform

1048
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: grants you that unif the states should fear the people

1049
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: and not the other way around. And right now we

1050
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 1: we we we got that turned around, especially in communities

1051
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 1: that look like shut up, Mr checkpoint and always always

1052
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: feel the police check him out. We shouted him out

1053
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: from the stage and shout two you running Glover and

1054
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 1: a former mayor, Andrew Young founded Greenwood, a banking system.

1055
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: Talked to us how that thought came about and where

1056
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: you guys currently are with the process when the cards

1057
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: are rolled out. So if you signed up, your car

1058
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: is gonna be coming soon, please use it. But in

1059
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: the fintech world, everybody's everything is coming here. Our kids

1060
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: listen to music here, my kids. You know it's PayPal,

1061
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: cash aft and the fintech thing. So Greenwood was a

1062
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: part of TOAs Oklahoma, where free blacks win. They built

1063
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: a thriving community themselves, and it was destroyed and encouraged

1064
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 1: the destruction by local menis path all these in government.

1065
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: And it was this bank, in the spirit of doing

1066
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: for self, created a platform with working class folks, be

1067
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: you black, Latino, poor, and working class white people. It

1068
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 1: gives you an opportunity to have a real banking system

1069
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: in your hand, to have a real bank account. It's

1070
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: federally insured. It gives you an opportunity to build credit,

1071
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: gives you an opportunity. Um they're gonna roll out a

1072
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: loan system soon. And what it did was Andy went

1073
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: to India and he got a chance to see instead

1074
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: of getting paid paper, women get a card to be

1075
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: paid on, Whereas if they were cashing for paper, they

1076
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: would have punitive things. Jet cashing places you get charged.

1077
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: These women, because of the money they saved, were able

1078
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: to start saving silks, saving fabrics, making garments, just creating

1079
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: extra income for themselves and lifting themselves out of the

1080
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: dirt and wretched poverty. And this can happen here if

1081
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: check cashing places aren't literally swiping and taking, you have

1082
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: an opportunity to save, to put away money. You have

1083
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 1: an opportunity to single mother or young father, the head

1084
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: of a family, to start to build your credit, to

1085
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: start to look toward owner ship versus rental. So I

1086
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: just wanted to be a part of something that actually

1087
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: helped our people helped themselves. Because you can't save and

1088
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: charity us out of the whole we're in. There has

1089
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: to be some real economic interests and viability. That's why

1090
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: I believe in things like reparations. Whether it be when

1091
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: do we get them, I don't know, But until then,

1092
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 1: what I do know is you can reparate yourself by

1093
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: spending less than you earn, by focusing on by ownership,

1094
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: by not having children before you ready, by further in

1095
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: your education, be that college or trade school, and by

1096
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: partnering with other people so that you're not taking off

1097
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: the financial risk yourself. And that's just commons working kind

1098
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: of ship switching gears. Do you keep up with NBA? Yeah?

1099
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: I like it, but I've been on the run. Man,

1100
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: have we been rehearsing? I like my guys. I like

1101
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: the Hawks. How do you feel about trading hawks right now? Now?

1102
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: I like trail a lot, I like columns a lot

1103
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: as well, and they're gonna get out of this series.

1104
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: If we don't get out of this series, we're gonna

1105
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: come out wiser and come back stronger. You know. I

1106
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: think that all. I think that we're gonna become a

1107
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: better defensive team in the next couple of years. I

1108
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: think that I think that Atlanta hasn't had a true

1109
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: superstar um since Dominique. But I also would like to say, man,

1110
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: I want to tip my hat to a lot of

1111
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: a lot of old Hawks from you know, Jamal just

1112
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: got out of there. You know what I'm saying, Like,

1113
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 1: man show it's amazing shots, amazing Atlantic and Hawk. So

1114
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: we've had some We've had a lot of people of

1115
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: good integrity. You know, Trade sound special, he's crazy, he

1116
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: can throw that thing from anywhere. He's Yeah, now I agree.

1117
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: I agree. We met trying to get the right small

1118
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: for the two card and it's gonna it's gonna go stupid.

1119
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: And so you do know you you do you know

1120
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: what you're talking about? Yeah, yeah, y'all, I'll just get

1121
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: high rounded. Yeah, you said Kobe is your favorite player?

1122
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: You have any Kobe stories? Okay, so we we till

1123
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: called me? He said, Hey, I said what's up? He say, fat, Well,

1124
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm in the studio Kobe up here, Come come come

1125
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: meet him. I was like, hell, yeah, let's do it

1126
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: because everybody who knows we know, like I really, man,

1127
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: I really loved Kobe, you know, really, So I get

1128
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: my wife with me. Man, you know I'm very attractive

1129
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: white man. I married married a girl looked like man

1130
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: piece carrot cake. Man. I mean, no surgery needed. She

1131
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: came already sing right, you know what I mean. I

1132
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: know she liked tall nigger that can dunce. I had

1133
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: to hate you know what I'm saying. But listen, no man,

1134
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: especially so we were that. I asked the con I said,

1135
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: I say, I say, you say, dog hold him like

1136
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: who I got to watch? I say, dog, I've been

1137
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: I'm the dude in the room talking about he better,

1138
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: he better than anybody like on that dude to them

1139
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: and he said he's summon tells his kid on watching

1140
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: he said, he said he really thin. He's small though,

1141
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: if he can stay healthy. Now I'm for people, so

1142
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: call me on TV. He had on the cape and

1143
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: a mask. But I'm sure you got some tensities when

1144
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: you've seen him. He thin, like not frail, but just

1145
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: like man, I could not like yeah, like he was thin.

1146
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: So I'm like, who the fund is he talking about?

1147
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: Because I'm looking at him and I'm really tripping that

1148
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: he's not huge. Yeah, And I'm thinking, so, I'm like,

1149
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm this much of a fan that I'm read playing

1150
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: plays in my head like this motherfucker did that. And

1151
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 1: I'm a Trail s Freewell fan too. Down the Trail

1152
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: has some size making a movie, but I'm just like

1153
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: this stick up compared to a trade, he is not

1154
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 1: even that. And as on process and that he says,

1155
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 1: as this kid at Golden State, Steph Curry, m hm,

1156
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: And I said, who he says, Steph Curry. I saw

1157
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: the scene him player, I say, but he the one

1158
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: he said. I'm telling you he don't want all they

1159
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: gotta do. Stay here that day, start watching step He

1160
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: has never disappointed it. And that ship was like Yoda

1161
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: telling you about this kid, and ain't Luke. You know

1162
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, He's gonna Koby Man. Meeting Kobe was

1163
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: a big deal. And then when it was time to

1164
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,919
Speaker 1: take pictures, met him, tipped meet him, tipping my wife

1165
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: just like my wife smiled a little too hard, I said,

1166
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: you know this, she read it like Lebrons, you don't.

1167
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: I hate it. I hate it like and she was pissed.

1168
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: So I was like, so heye, But that he was.

1169
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: He was man, he was he was such a you know,

1170
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: he was really you know, I just believe in heroes.

1171
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to well it's comic books, parables and stuff.

1172
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: I believe in heroes. And Kobe really was a hero.

1173
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: He was a guy who, no matter what where you

1174
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: are on the Jordan debate, he had the audacity and

1175
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: the tenacity to want to be better than his master.

1176
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: Like when you think about that on some Kung Fu

1177
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: movie ship, you know, he wanted to be better than

1178
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: his master. That is that, you know, the type of

1179
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: self discipline like I'm still trying to have the dup

1180
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: discipline just to do it every day at the morning.

1181
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 1: But the self discipline it takes to want to be

1182
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: better than your idol, that's that's something. That's something you know,

1183
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: that's herculean ship. You know. When they asked m J

1184
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 1: about it, he said, the only person that can beat

1185
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: and probably Kovid. Yeah, still all his moves, you think,

1186
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 1: I don't know, I want my guys to win. Of course,

1187
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: I know it's a long shot, but you know, I

1188
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: don't I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

1189
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: But you know what though, if my guys aren't in it,

1190
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: I do want to see I want to see Chris

1191
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: Paul Walker. I love Chris Man And yeah, I hate

1192
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: it when the leave blocked him from going out to

1193
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: play with Kobe. But I really think that he's he

1194
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: defines character, you know what I mean? So, yeah, like

1195
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: he is the point guard, you know, he makes the

1196
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: team better around him. He's clutched when he needs to be.

1197
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: And just like he reminds me of like when you

1198
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: watch those old tapes of Kareem and An interview or

1199
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: Jim an interview, just once he's done playing the character

1200
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: some man, great leader. Yeah, I really I really respect

1201
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: and I'd like to see him get one. Yeah, you're

1202
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: on the board of the Homies in art I am

1203
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: talking about that. How did you come about man? Rand

1204
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 1: Suffolk who is the director and Mukol who's an amazing artist.

1205
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 1: They approached me about it three years ago and I

1206
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: agree that. And what was amazing is I came out

1207
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: of Frederick U those high schools Arts and Talent program.

1208
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: Little y'ally's father is a photographer who also comes out

1209
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: of that program. Little John's person who comes out of

1210
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: the arts program, arts program, you know. So it's like

1211
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: it's a it's a big deal because all our teachers

1212
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: wanted to us to find something we can attach to

1213
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: and take us all the way, you know. So getting

1214
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 1: an opportunity to be on the education board, not only

1215
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: just on the board, but on the committee that specifically

1216
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: deals with education to make sure that a museum and

1217
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: a major metropolitan city that has an over fifty percent

1218
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: African American participation ship stays like that in grows. It's

1219
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: just an amazing opportunity. And I think that you know,

1220
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: you hear what rappers aren't doing from people complaining on

1221
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: a daily basis, But you know, I think that's something

1222
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: to be celebrated, you know. And not only am I

1223
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: on the board of the high I make sure my

1224
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: daughter gets to the Apex Museum and learns about African

1225
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: American coach and make sure when I'm in cities visiting,

1226
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: you know, we go to the museums. So I'm just

1227
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: a believer that the arts can inspire children. You know,

1228
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: if you want a cheap date or great out in

1229
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: as a parent, go to the museum. You know, take

1230
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: your day to the museum. You don't tell us out

1231
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: let let let that currently we even the last should

1232
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: be seeing something. Artists again. Take the babies. There many

1233
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: grass grass on hot wing. He's out the words, sir,

1234
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: you collect hot wheels. I do love the must the cars. Hello, Hello,

1235
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: a death story. I just made my grandma. I remember

1236
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: she was taking to kmart when I was a kid,

1237
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: and if I ain't no food, I got a hot Yeah,

1238
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if I had the food, I gotta ask

1239
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: for him. So I figured the hot wheels was the

1240
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: easier way to go. But at my barber shop, when

1241
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: we first opened our shop on the south side of

1242
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,439
Speaker 1: thirty sixty one Roseville Highway in Atlanta, the old shop,

1243
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: the prodect shop that had been there, hadn't left the

1244
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: best reputation, so when we were trying to attract new customers,

1245
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: I remember one day, just sitting there, me and the

1246
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: barber's I was like, man, I got an idea, say

1247
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: everybody give me ten dollars. I ran too, the like

1248
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: the dollar story, got hot wheels, and I said, all

1249
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: your kid customers when you cut the hair giving this

1250
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: at the end of the I said, the one dollar investment,

1251
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: it's gonna bring you nilars every time, and after that

1252
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: it's just are flourishing, start growing, and then you know,

1253
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: I love real muscle cars. So you know, I put

1254
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: my cars in front of my shops. I just bought

1255
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: about thirty thousand square foot house space. We're probably do

1256
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: something cool in the car world with that, you know,

1257
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: with its villains. So you know, I just I mean,

1258
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: I love cars. I love going fast. Um not teen

1259
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,919
Speaker 1: seven put g n x is is one of the ones.

1260
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: It's called to me and all the car Now you know,

1261
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have one before I get out of here.

1262
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: And I think I'm gonna finding by myself a demon

1263
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: this year. Like I was thinking the other night. I

1264
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: was like, man, I could die. The kids didn't Want'm

1265
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: gonna spend all this goddamn and I still ain't gonna

1266
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: be Then got my demon opening the restaurant. Yeah, bank

1267
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: Head seafood Man, fifty year old restaurant. It was the

1268
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: oldest restaurant on that strip or bank Head. Miss Helen

1269
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: Harden owned it from Mount Olive Baptist Church. Shouts out

1270
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: to Miss Harden and we bought it till called me

1271
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: like I said, you said, we want to do something together,

1272
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: let's do it. We got it. We don't went through

1273
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: a lot of ups and downs getting cleared. We don't

1274
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: went through a lot of fights. But man, it's coming

1275
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: and I'm proud of us. You know. See, I've been

1276
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: in the Lanta a long time. See it's hollow way on.

1277
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: I've been out of that projects and all that knocked down.

1278
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: Now you know what I mean. You gotta be from

1279
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: the eight you do. Now we call some help to

1280
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: I want to tell athletes and entertainers man like, and

1281
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: the lawyers out there, and you know in the cities

1282
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: that we need to start sitting down with some committees

1283
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: and figuring out your to me in cities, especially through

1284
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: the South, your athletes and entertainers should be looked at

1285
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: as a wave of potential business people and if we

1286
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: partner with them, then we have an opportunity to build

1287
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: business into communities and brands that are gonna be better.

1288
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: We got a lot of pushback from people who weren't

1289
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: legacy restaurants in the community. At some point um the

1290
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: legacy people, the people have been in fifty sixty years,

1291
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 1: were like, we're proud of y'all, like, like the community

1292
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: really arranged you guys, y'all doing this, And then we

1293
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: got some pushbacks some other places because of rappers, because

1294
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: of reputation, because of other things. And I just thought

1295
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: that was shameful because in in my opinion, when people

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01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: are heroes from a from a local place, whether it's

1297
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: the athletes that are brought there to perform athletics or

1298
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: the people that grow out of there and perform music,

1299
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: if cities and private sector partner with these people and

1300
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: you create a business class and an economic class that

1301
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: creates jobs and creates more opportunity, you create stronger cities,

1302
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: You create strong economics. And I think that we have

1303
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: the potential again to create more Jamal mash Barns, more Magic,

1304
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: johnsins more Shaquille o'neils. And if we do that, we'll

1305
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: hear less stories of who lost it all, and we're

1306
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: less complaints of what rappers aren't doing. But that only

1307
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: happens when everybody buys into it and everybody does it.

1308
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: So you know, I want to challenge people to do

1309
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: with Atlanta is doing, because it seems to me that

1310
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: people in Atlanta are are cooperating in the way that

1311
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: Andrew Young wanted us to. He's doing an amazing job

1312
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: him ask him and his business partner Suit you know,

1313
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: shouts out of them, Jeezy, you know, you know, amazing jobs.

1314
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm just I'm happy to see you know,

1315
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: even if you look at man, what what Gucci has

1316
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: been able to do in terms of record deals people like,

1317
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: you know, people have been really really generous with the

1318
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: opportunity What what Thug has been able to do operative people,

1319
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: you know, and the people that that he's helping now

1320
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: opening and you know, babies opening restaurants. So for me, Man,

1321
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: I just want to see more and more on a

1322
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: plethora of that. And I want to see another seat.

1323
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: I want to see them because I want to see

1324
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: them Dallas, want to see them, want to see it

1325
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: in Austin, want to see it in places so that

1326
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: there's a whole new fifty year economy that's created around it.

1327
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: Like people see this side of the camera, there's three

1328
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: people talking who entertain y'all. On the other side of

1329
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: this campra that dozens of people that are making this happen.

1330
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 1: So that's a bigger economy. And I think that I

1331
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: think that when this country understands, especially when the African

1332
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: American community is strong economically, the entire country is stronger.

1333
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: That's to me, that's hard Achilles Hill. And like you said,

1334
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: it's getting better. But we never learned to do this.

1335
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: We've always been for fighting for ourselves and surviving, so

1336
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: we've never thought to come together together. We're so much stronger,

1337
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: so much stronger. They gotta do it, like you said,

1338
01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: they gotta do it in the hometowns like where we're from.

1339
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: A perfect example Bun in Houston. They showed Bunn the

1340
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: love and Houston that pulled author should be showing him.

1341
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying for them for what he do.

1342
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And I think that's why

1343
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: people go elsewhere, because they get more love and appreciate

1344
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: from other places than where they come from. But but

1345
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: it's it's it's amazing because it comes back because Bunn

1346
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: is caught. He inspired you. You're inspiring someone. The legacy continue.

1347
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: You know, if you never if you don't have big

1348
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: Boy one half of out cash from Savannah, do you

1349
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: get camouflaged, get a growing you know, music scene and

1350
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 1: Savannay and so for me, man, I'm just I just say, man,

1351
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: if you escape in small towns in your mind, don't

1352
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: forget to go back and leave the expation. Don't forget that.

1353
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: Like Andrean James is one of my Euros forever because

1354
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: he has never left. He's always planning and inspired. Whether

1355
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: it was that he talked about the activity center he

1356
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 1: started three guys who playing the pros and now came

1357
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: through that center. You know, man, come on, man, that's

1358
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: that's his own private y m c A. You know

1359
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: what I mean, that's a that's a beautiful thing. Well,

1360
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: Uncle Luke has been able to do with football and

1361
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: South Flora. Forget what he did, you know, we often

1362
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 1: forget what we did rather in terms protecting our First

1363
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: Amendment rights in the nineties, but the amount of young

1364
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: men whose life he's touched through athletics and just you know,

1365
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 1: and what athletics you had to be doing good in school,

1366
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: just making you incredible young men and me and fit

1367
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: to marry going out what Snoop has been able to do.

1368
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: So I just applaud this man, and I think the

1369
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: more we grow because we've only been free sixty years,

1370
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: I had sixty years of free so you know, when

1371
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: you think about that's not a very long time, you know,

1372
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: So don't let don't be too hard on ourselves. Let's

1373
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: support the things that we know we're gonna grow like viola,

1374
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: you know, and let's let's keep pushing shouts out down. Definitely, definitely, man,

1375
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: We appreciate your time. We've got a quick hitters, first

1376
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: team to come to mind and let us know. But

1377
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you start. If you could be remembered

1378
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: by any bar a lyric that you ever dropped, what

1379
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: would it be if any man the first verse of

1380
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 1: untitled you were witnessing elegance in the form of a

1381
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: black elephant smoking white rhine on terrorists like slang like

1382
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 1: my king by terrorists? Will my woman be caretta take

1383
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: my name and cherish it? Or wish Jackie yell Trump

1384
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: to Kennedy remarry it? My sister say, is necessary on

1385
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,919
Speaker 1: some clear patrickship. I tenued to agree because the thought

1386
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: is so disparaging. My grandmother says, no, never that exactly.

1387
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: Then I say, Then I say no, I tend to

1388
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: agree because the thought of so disparaging. The Lord, give

1389
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: a load you got to carry it like Mary did.

1390
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 1: That's why I'm giving honor to all these baby mamas.

1391
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: It takes a woman's wound that to make a christ

1392
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: of dollar Loma the world. I take the child, turn

1393
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: the challenge to a monster. The world had taken, I'd

1394
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 1: say the world might take the child turned the challenge

1395
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: to a monster. The lord to take a monster and

1396
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 1: fashion him a saint. I present you Malcolm X was

1397
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 1: older saying that he can't, saying that he won't when

1398
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: I know he will. But you usually don't know what

1399
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: you until you being killed. Real. That was my thoughts

1400
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: of what I thought Dr King would be thinking as

1401
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: he laid out down. That's tough. I'm gonna put you

1402
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 1: on the spot right here. You guys have your own

1403
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 1: unique sound out there in Atlanta. Who is your round

1404
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:02,959
Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore Ever letter artists, Oh black, it'll be. It'll

1405
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: be a hundred people on the when putting forehead the

1406
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: whole mountains like a big super faith. But I will

1407
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: say I'm honored to be on the arm on the

1408
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 1: cover that Slam magazine. But they put up something like

1409
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: a basketball team. They had me down there looking like

1410
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 1: powerful and I got a weight loss goal now including

1411
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: your Body of Work. One album you can listen to

1412
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: from top to bottom, no skips excluding My Body of

1413
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: Work Man, any and every scar Face album. I'm gonna

1414
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: go with. My favorite s car Face album is to Fix.

1415
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: He always says that are you Mine is on I

1416
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 1: would say a man made is potentially Yeah, yeah yeah.

1417
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: One quote you lived by man, do what you want

1418
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 1: to do because you're gonna wake up dead one day.

1419
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 1: Do what you wanna do because you're gonna wake up

1420
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:58,479
Speaker 1: dead one day. Man. That's that's solid. Five dinner guests

1421
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: dead are Alive. I generally get Dad all lie, deep conversation,

1422
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,479
Speaker 1: some good free let's see drinks. Say that dead all live,

1423
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: I go, I go dr King, Frederick Douglas, Eugene Davis,

1424
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 1: Patrese from Mumba and Hurston. Three women at the table,

1425
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: Well Zoro Zoros. It was the only one. But I

1426
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 1: think she's just toughest ship she We don't be mostly

1427
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: listening to her and she wrote like her for Riddy

1428
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: and so I just love to hear our top country.

1429
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: Last question, if you can see one guest on All

1430
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 1: the Smoke on the show, who would it be? But

1431
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: before you answer, you have to help us get your

1432
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 1: ass on the show. Oh man, I just called to

1433
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: your roman. Tell me need to do y'all show. Yeah, yeah,

1434
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: we need that. He's about to call him right now.

1435
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: You can't turn that down. Hey, so you don't get

1436
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: no realdy to kill Mike. Mike depicts the pall. Yeah,

1437
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: do we call him right quick? You see, I gotta see.

1438
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean he might be working. Tell tell Joe we

1439
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 1: did we did with Joe broken up sports podcast. Let's see,

1440
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 1: let's see, let's see you Joe come over here smoking joint.

1441
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: Willers talking about when he said niggah man, Joe didn't

1442
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 1: killed man working, damn Joe. So I can ask act.

1443
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 1: I love to see y'all talking, So I can ask

1444
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: me to say nigger, nigger? Which one did you say?

1445
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 1: Don't that I want to I want to say this far.

1446
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: I want to say this far. I'll be triguing, like

1447
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: because white folks ain't got that. We used to be

1448
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 1: taught that the turn cracker came from a whip cracker

1449
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 1: that black people made up. But we didn't make that up.

1450
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: Real white folks made up nigga and cracker. When I say,

1451
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: real white folksy a lot of folks. If you know

1452
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 1: about the landing, you know about cabbage Town. Cabbage Town,

1453
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: they gentrified, pody fled in the black neighborhoods. Cabbage towns

1454
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 1: are all white neighbors. I don't pull working class white folks.

1455
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: And the meals would bring them up and use them,

1456
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 1: pay them a meal, money, overcharged them at the store.

1457
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: They mean they didn't pay them in American money. They

1458
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 1: pay them in like a food stamp. So the first

1459
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: people to get gentrified and pushed out the city weren't

1460
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: even black. It was white, but it was poor. They

1461
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 1: put them out in, pushed them further down to Clayton

1462
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: counter places like that. But the term cracker comes from

1463
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: the master class in the South, these real white folks,

1464
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: the folks that was related to the folks they were

1465
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: breaking away from. So the people that first took the

1466
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 1: Thirteen Colleagues and ship, a lot of them was cousins

1467
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: the Royalty and ship. They just weren't high enough on

1468
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: the royalty ladder, so they were still against ship. And

1469
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: also they just found them another land to take. And

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Speaker 1: we're falling off away from a military standpoint. Y'all got

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Speaker 1: across this ocean, we got most sniper rifles because we

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Speaker 1: are and funck y'all, you know what I mean, We

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Speaker 1: took it. But crackers was a term given to those

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Speaker 1: people who weren't cosmopolitan. They weren't very learned that with

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Speaker 1: gypsy slights moved around. So white folks named y'all crackers,

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Speaker 1: the same white folks that named us niggas. And the

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Speaker 1: thing they had in common is they used cheap and

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Speaker 1: free labor from niggas and crackers. And because niggas and

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Speaker 1: cracker has been fighting so long from everywhere the South, Mississippi,

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Speaker 1: East Alabama where's Georgia, Niggas and crackers predominantly have stayed

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Speaker 1: poor in places like Mississippi, places like Alabama, and now

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Speaker 1: the federal government and local municipalities fight over slave label.

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Speaker 1: To see, you're gonna cut the grass for free, because

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Speaker 1: niggas and crackers still fighting against one another. But we're

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Speaker 1: both doing that fighting for the people that name us both.

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Speaker 1: And that's the real white folks when they were all

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Speaker 1: the planter class. So that's just for y'all, niggas and crackers.

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Speaker 1: And know something, thank yall, Showtime Basketball, YouTube and the

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Speaker 1: Heart platform, Black effects Man. We'll see you all next week,