WEBVTT - Ep. 23 From Sea to Shining C-Section 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.359 Wine down with Janet Kramer and I heard radio podcast 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:11.160 Wine Downtime. Downtime, I'm so excited. Do you want to 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:13.640 recap our week? Bab? Sure? What do we do this 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:16.440 all week? Kenny? Well, I was supposed to go on strike. 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:22.200 How did that go? Well? It didn't because I just 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:25.279 felt like if I did, then stuff would just be 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:27.920 not taken care of. So I had a really hard time, 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:29.760 and a lot of other women were like, I would 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:33.040 love to strike with you, but unfortunately nothing would get done. 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:37.839 But what would not have gotten done this week? So 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:41.600 there were times when I walked past the dishwasher I 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:44.239 knew that, no, no, you were really bad this week 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:47.519 about not loading the dishwasher, and I had like emptied it, 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:48.960 and so I thought, I'm like, Okay, if I don't 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:50.600 empty it now, then I'm just gonna have more and 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:52.120 then when we make dinner, and then it's just going 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:53.640 to be even more of a chaos. And if I 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:55.080 don't help, then he's gonna be like, why aren't you 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:58.160 helping me? So I just I kind of was just like, Okay, 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:00.440 I'm done with this. I can't if first of all, 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:02.160 first of all, whatever I ever said, why are you 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:05.920 not helping me. No, Well, I mean it's we just 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:08.039 kind of do it together, right, We just do it together. 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:13.039 And secondly, that's what that's not like really something to 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:15.679 go on strike about doing the dishes, because that's something 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:18.640 we both do. I know, But I'm just saying, for example, 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:19.959 there's got to be one of these things that you 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:22.600 talk about, this would never get done if I didn't 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.520 do it. Well, okay, I know it would get done, 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:27.640 but I'm just saying I would have won things done 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:29.840 on more of my time. Like you came home from 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.280 home depot and there were something sitting on the kitchen counter. 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:34.399 I really wanted to move it, but I didn't, and 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.200 it took two days for you to move it. It 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:40.640 was your or deodorant wash stuff that was sitting on 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:46.240 the counter that you went to like Walgreens or whatever. Deodorant. Yeah, 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:47.840 but I was sitting on the counter for two days. 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:52.920 I counted, and then you finally moved it. Okay, I know, 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:55.080 I'll be sure you'd be more conscious of the stuff 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:58.840 that you leave around. Okay, Okay, so that's the thing 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:01.360 I feel like, maybe you got as just keep more 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:03.600 score in your head. No, we don't keep any score. 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:08.080 We just want things cleaned. Then just clean him. Do it. Okay, 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:11.359 my strike was really bad. I didn't do it. I 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:14.160 didn't go over too well. It didn't go well. And 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:16.799 then we toured the hospital towards the hospital where the 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.160 baby's going to be born. Oh that's awesome. What do 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.520 the rooms look like. I'm having kind of an anxiety 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:28.200 attack of they're very small. So we started the tour 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.679 and they took us into the triage room. And I 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:35.120 had a C section with Jolie so at a different hospital. 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:38.600 Different That's why we toured the hospital here in l A. 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:43.040 And I like, the triage room is really nice where 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:47.519 they set you up and everything. But I already am gonn. 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:49.680 I'm gonna have a schedule C section because I personally 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.000 just don't want to do a V back. I know 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.200 there's risk for both, but I've already had a C 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:56.440 section and you know it took us back. I know 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.280 it's yeah, and I've already had the car down there, 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:05.160 and I just agree. I'm a little sad that I 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:09.520 missed the vaginal birth experience, but then I quickly get 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:13.519 over it. Are you a little bit? Are you? What? 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.400 What are you? So? You know I was going to 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:20.400 go all natural. I was like all in nothing, no epidural, 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:27.600 nothing at you puncture, you know, like yeah, yeah, I 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:33.280 was like I was like zend out playlist ready, you know. Um. 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:38.120 And that's not the way it happened, because did I 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.280 ended up having a C section And well, I was 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:47.800 dilated probably at about A seven before I got the epidural. 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.080 I mean I was at the point where it was 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.720 I was dying every forty five seconds and would have 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:59.680 fifteen seconds of relief, right, So it was like every 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.080 four was I would have forty five seconds of like 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:05.680 back labor, and then it would be fifteen seconds of like, 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:07.240 oh my god, I can take a breath, and then 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:10.480 it would be like, oh I'm dying a gun. Um. 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:16.160 So Rocco was he was. He was. He was like 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.640 seven pounds eight ounces. He wasn't like he wasn't a 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.960 huge baby, which you wouldn't believe that because he's now 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:26.040 uh four ft three inches and seventy one pounds at 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:30.159 six years old. Um, but he was. He was ready 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:33.800 to clown, except he was leaning on his he had 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.880 his right hand, uh like placed on the back of 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.120 his head, so he was like just chilling like this, 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.520 and they were like, his hand isn't he's not moving it. 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:45.720 We we have to go on and get them. Like, 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.719 he won't move. You were trying, like you you were trying, 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:53.960 and by that point you had still no yeah, because 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:59.440 he was like, you know, he was just chilling, not ready. UM. 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.479 So they quickly gave me the upper girl and it 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:09.200 was heavened. I was like, right, oh my god, Why 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:13.760 was I so stupid? And then I had the C 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:19.760 section and I was like, fine, whatever, the baby's he's healthy. 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:24.200 I'm healthy. You know. I don't think you have to 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.640 feel so bad about missing out on maybe that natural experience, 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:31.800 especially when it's out of your control, out of your control. 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.800 With Jan's it was the same thing where her fever 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.359 started to spike a little bit. My water broke a 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.599 couple of days obviously before before the schedule date, and 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.800 you can only if your water breaks, they only have 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.240 so many hours. At some point they have to go 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:49.960 in and get the baby. Labored for about four hours. 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.039 But I had the epidirl right away. I mean, I 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:56.200 was smarty. Second, I my pain because we were in Nashville. 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.359 My water broke. I got up from bed and I 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:01.359 said honey, I don't think. I just pete myself like 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.440 oh god. And then within a minute I had contractions 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.760 every minute on the minute and he's brushing his teeth. 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:13.360 Take your time. I was like, good enough, Like do 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:17.599 I need to call mind you? This is like the 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:22.200 third or fourth whatever quote I'm doing air quotes alarm 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.599 that we had in that week. So we had already 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.120 gone to the hospital like three times that week, right, 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:28.800 and she's like, I think I'm having the baby and 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:30.760 we get the hospital. I was like, no, baby, I 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.320 think I'm having So it was like three times that week. 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:36.279 The fourth I guess the fourth time was a charm. 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:38.200 So this time she's like my water Brooks. I'm like, 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:40.520 here we go again. So this time I'm like brush 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:48.159 my teeth, he's tying, run out and my pgs. My 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:53.480 mom's upstairs. I'm like my water. She's like runs down 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:56.000 the stairs. They go out for the car. I'm taking 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:59.479 my time. I come out nor her mother comes in. 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.159 It's like Mike, I think we really need to go. 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:07.600 And for the listeners who haven't had a baby yet, 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:12.240 when you see water break in movies and film and TV, 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:16.480 it is nothing like that in real life. Because you're like, wait, 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:20.760 did my water break? Yeah, because in the film, in 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:25.720 a film, it's like water. Yeah, this was more of 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:32.240 just like a So anyways, we go to the hospital, 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:35.200 I end up trying to labor, end up having an 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:39.160 emergency C section. Julie comes out YadA yutah um. We'll 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:43.680 talk about that part later. But I know people do 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:45.960 v backs. I know they actually say that a v 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.840 back is actually safer than a C section. And I've 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.680 thought about if my water breaks again before my scheduled 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:57.280 C section, should I try to be back basically a 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:00.720 vaginal birth after C section? Right? But I could also 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.360 hemorrhage die the C section scar could first, I mean, 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:06.400 but it's something can go wrong in the C section 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:08.960 surgery to like they actually say your chances are worse 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:11.600 than a C section versus the back. I don't know. 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.000 I've been googled, like I've been talking to Dr Google. 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:19.120 So stop googling. I know. Right, So fast forward to 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.680 you know, or rewind to the to the room, and 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:26.320 I was like, man, maybe I really should trivaginal. But 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:30.120 then I was like, nam, good, So I mean if 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:31.880 it happens, it happens, and then the baby is coming, 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.400 We gotta go, we gotta go, and then whatever. But 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:36.679 I'm hoping that, you know, it was. And I was 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:39.680 telling Michael, I'm having some anxiety around it, just because 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:41.440 you just don't know what's gonna happen. Is my water 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.839 going to break like it did with Joy before. I'm 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:46.320 starting to stress, Like when we're going over the hill 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.480 yesterday to go to the hospital, it's taking, you know, 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.040 a good amount of time. And j I was like, 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:56.760 what if my water head broken and we're trying to hospital. 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:02.520 You need to tell that baby you're not coming. It's 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:04.720 rush hour. I know, I'm very scared. He's like, well, 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:05.960 what if I get pulled over? I was like, then 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.080 I'm hopping in the police car and the police car 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:11.240 is going to siren me to the hospital. Actually, I 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:14.959 actually have a couple shortcuts to get you guys through 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:18.560 the hill. Okay, if you want me to share those, okay, 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:21.480 we we'll definitely get on that for sure. But anyway, 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.320 so we go to the triage room. Triage room looks 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:24.800 really pretty where they're going to do the vachel on 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:26.560 birth there's a lot of room. But then where you 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:32.040 go to do your postpartum girl, it's so small. Is 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:36.280 there a couch? Nothing? One chair? Can you get a suite? 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:44.679 Can't up minimum night? That's almost and if it's three 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.240 to four nights, so that's almost eleven. I'm like, we 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:51.320 can't do that. That's eleven to seventeen thousand dollars. We can't. 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:55.400 We can't rationalize that for a couch. But you know, 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:57.240 I'm not trying to be a baby too. But it 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:00.600 is a small and it's all about what your prior 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.520 experience was, or our prior experience was in Nashville where 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.720 the hospital we went to. We're naturally in Williamson County 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:10.000 or Davidson County, and outside of Nashville, it's not as 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.360 populated as l A County, So rooms are gonna be 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:14.960 a little bit bigger. That's just you know, that's just 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:18.000 how it is, right, So you're caught that you saw 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.080 I had a really great sweet There's a fold up 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:23.000 cot in the corner for the dad to sleep on, 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.400 which as soon as you lay it out, takes up 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.640 the remaining of the floor space. So it's the bed 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:30.640 and the cotton that's it, and then the beast enough 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:32.800 for the baby. Then like you're blocking the door for 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:36.040 the bathroom, and it's just so I'm having I'm having 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:40.480 slightly anxiety attack about that. So I understand that because 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:43.160 I I are, I don't like small spaces. It scares me. 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.440 I would love just to have at least a couch, 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.720 just couch so when Jolie comes to visit or any 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:54.679 friends come to visit. Yes, but I was at Kaiser, 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:59.679 which is a very holistical the one on Sunset. Oh, 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:02.920 and it is incredible. It was incredible that and I 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:06.120 was able to have the acupuncture during labor. I mean, 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:10.040 I had a totally different experience. Were considering, kind of 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:12.800 had to talk yesterday. I mean we talked to Janna's 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:17.120 kin know about about It's like it's where he delivers right, 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:20.600 so anywhere else because do you deliver anywhere else at 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.880 the sl preferably in the sweep right across the street. 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:25.120 Not trying to be I'm not trying to be a 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.320 that's that's not you know, deefitely not trying to be 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:33.240 deva that we have are fantastic. And the medical yes, 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.520 the medical staff that you have around you, it's so 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:40.400 lucky everything. I'm very happy, very grateful. It's just you know, 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.079 it's coming very soon, and I'm starting to get anxiety 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:45.920 around it. Do you think we should do a podcast 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:50.719 in the hospital. Absolutely, I'm I'm there. I think I'm 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.559 coming in. I think we should just do a live 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:55.920 podcast from there. I think we should talk, especially if 0:11:55.920 --> 0:12:02.840 you're in labor. Oh my god, like or Easton would well, 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:05.400 I think that might be too much. He might have 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.400 to be here in studio. Yeah that's true, but he wouldn't. 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.560 He wouldn't be able to handle the rest of bombs. 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.360 But I mean we should, we should think about that. 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:15.240 I wonder if you guys would be interested in doing 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:20.520 a live podcast birth right in right about like midwives. 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.920 I'm just I'm too scary. I'm not the I have 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:27.280 to have doctors. I have to have I mean, when 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:30.440 when Jolie came, I mean, how many questions did I 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.640 ask the doctors and nurses. I even said, I was 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.679 crashing in the middle of the c section. Yeah, she's 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:40.080 sitting there, not even no, not even during the c section, before, 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:42.599 before the c section, just when she has the epidural, 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.760 because it was you don't think frozen. I can't. I 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:50.679 don't feel I can't do anything. Is a hypochondria episode 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.040 at first she doesn't have the epidural, so she's just 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.079 complaining about the pain and everything that. Then she has it, 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.199 then she's complaining that she can't feel anything, which is 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:01.480 the whole point of an epidural. It is weird crashing 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.000 and the nurses like, honey, you're not crashing. That means 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.480 like you're flatlining. You're not crashing. So they know when 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.480 I'm crashing, go get the doctor. I'm crap, you don't 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.319 understand I'm crashing. I didn't do that. Then I thought 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:12.560 I did that in the hospital, Like when did it 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.960 before you even had the surgery? Oh really, it is 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:19.720 a strange feeling to just be numb, like from the 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:23.800 waist down it is. I I didn't like it either. 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.679 It's it's a very strange feeling. It is. So that's 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:29.120 why I could never do the holistic in the bath. 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.520 I give mad props to woman that can do that. 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:34.240 But I need all the doctor, I need all the attention, 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:36.880 I need all the medical staff, the nurses. She wants 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:41.800 the whole wing shutdown resource well. And then they couldn't 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:43.640 figure out what's wrong with me because my white blood 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.080 cell counts are really high. So I was convinced I 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:49.240 was dying. My my friend Catherine was there and she's like, okay, 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:50.760 so what's wrong with you? I said, well, they said 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:53.240 my my favorite spiking it's one or four plus my 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:55.880 white blood cell counts. And she's like, okay, I'm gonna 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.360 google it, and she googles it and I look at 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.960 her and she's like, um, don't don't, don't worry about it. 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.920 I was like, it says that died. You guys said 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:09.000 the stuff googling, especially while you're in the hospital when 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:12.439 there's actual But I was wrong, which was so scary, 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:14.199 and so I thought I was for sure. I was like, man, 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:17.120 I would have been such a great mom. Never, goot, 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.480 it's awful. We have podcast, do a live podcast because 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:23.160 this stuff is too good to not get on tape. 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.280 We'll see. I mean, it's scary though, when you're being 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:29.600 wheeled in for the C section and your body is 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.360 going left to right and you're getting so so I thought, 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:35.200 I thought I freaked out after Jolie came out of me. 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:37.600 Did you did that as well? I did, Okay, and 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:39.080 then didn't you tell the nurses? Oh? She was in 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:42.920 grayze anatomy. This is just her acting. She's watched too 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:45.480 much Graze Anatomy. I was like, this is just it's 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:47.600 a long story short. Let me know. 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If you 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.240 want sixty dollars off, it's twenty dollars off your first 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:39.960 three boxes. Visit Hello Fresh, slash Creamer sixty and enter 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:43.040 Creamer sixty. You guys will not regret it. Michael came 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:45.680 up with a really interesting idea the other day which 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:48.239 kind of scares me a little bit. Though, Yeah, it's 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.040 kind of great because she's a therapist. But yeah, I 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:53.639 had an idea for Jane and I podcast to add 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:57.080 some some spice to it some time, at some point 0:17:57.119 --> 0:18:01.119 in time, And I said, what if we if one 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:03.880 of us has an issue that we want to discuss 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:07.520 with one another, what if we even get as intimate 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.560 and personal as we save that for the podcast. That way, 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.480 you know, people hear us talk about what we do 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.879 in situations, how we communicate, but then for them for 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:20.240 people to listen to us real time and see how 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.840 we handle it instead of it's easy to say it 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:25.560 after the fact, Oh this is how I did it, 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:28.359 and you know it's it sounds so simple, But then 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:30.640 to be real time and really put ourselves out there 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:36.200 in a situation that we have to discuss personally. Um, 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:39.439 so that's something we're gonna do. I love this because 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:42.800 you Yeah, I do, because it's so interesting because you 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:48.639 have the tools when you're discussing a situation between the 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.520 two of you, You've been given the tools where you 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:54.920 can really communicate. And it's a great example to hear 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:57.800 for people to hear that, because if he drops like 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.680 a massive bomb on me, well, I think that there 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:06.160 has to be some boundaries because I don't handle everything great. No, 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:08.199 but that's part of it, right, Like what if one 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:13.080 of us don't handle it right, we'll be authentic on here. 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:16.399 It's okay, we don't have and but that's part of 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:20.080 it too, is people to listen to. It's not all oh, 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:22.600 thank you for sharing your feelings and this is how life. 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:25.040 It's not all right or I'm sorry you feel that 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:28.960 right between us. I guess the fireworks is what scares 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:33.440 me because that's the stuff that traumatizing. That traumatizing me, 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:35.600 that's the stuff that I get super triggered. So what 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:39.400 if I see that you're reacting a certain way and 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:43.679 you know, you storm and I don't like it? Scares 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:46.639 me because sometimes we don't handle things great. Sometimes we 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:50.600 don't say the right thing. Sometimes I get upset and 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:52.800 I don't hear you out. Sometimes you don't hear me out. 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:56.760 That happens on there. It's like, oh, then we're basically frauds. No, 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:01.440 but that's that's just that we're not odds, because that's 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:03.680 the thing. And when we have arguments yet you're still 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:05.040 gonna get heated. You're not going to be in the 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:07.520 best space or best place to hear handle things. But 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:10.560 still that's a way to show people how you can 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:14.720 still have fireworks in an argument but still not be disrespectful, 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:21.320 not be hurtful, still respect each other, but still be strong. 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:25.240 And maybe whatever you're feeling or thinking you're believing, that's okay. 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:28.880 That's still another form of communicating in a healthy way. 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:30.920 You guys just have to come up with a list 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:37.400 of things in situations that are totally off the table. Yeah, 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.399 I mean it's gonna be where, hey, I have something 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:42.920 around this kind of topic. You okay if I bring 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:45.400 it up. We're not going to discuss anything that right now, 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:47.760 but are okay we bring it up for our experiment 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:50.280 on the podcast. Yeah, that's respectful. I have said to you, 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:52.159 I said, what is it you want to talk to 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:58.639 me about? You're talking about? So what is it? I'm like, no, 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:02.080 there's nothing. I just think you would be another level 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:04.760 of depth on what we can offer people on how 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:08.679 to community as opposed to again look looking like we 0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:13.200 have everything perfect and we communicate, you know, great every time. 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:17.320 Where it's again that because you're we're not frauds, you're human, 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:22.280 you're human, and that's okay. It is also I think 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:27.400 that you don't say on Monday night, hey there's something 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:31.480 I want to talk to you about next Monday. It 0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:34.280 has to be like the night before, not even that 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:36.680 the way in I don't even think. I think it 0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:39.120 should just be right here because if not, I'm gonna 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:42.040 say what about it? Because I'm gonna get defensive, because 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:43.639 that's not going to be a real time because if 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:45.600 you bring something up to me, my first is, well, 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:49.760