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Speaker 1: Wine down with Janet Kramer and I heard radio podcast

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Speaker 1: Wine Downtime. Downtime, I'm so excited. Do you want to

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Speaker 1: recap our week? Bab? Sure? What do we do this

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Speaker 1: all week? Kenny? Well, I was supposed to go on strike.

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Speaker 1: How did that go? Well? It didn't because I just

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Speaker 1: felt like if I did, then stuff would just be

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Speaker 1: not taken care of. So I had a really hard time,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of other women were like, I would

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Speaker 1: love to strike with you, but unfortunately nothing would get done.

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Speaker 1: But what would not have gotten done this week? So

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Speaker 1: there were times when I walked past the dishwasher I

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Speaker 1: knew that, no, no, you were really bad this week

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Speaker 1: about not loading the dishwasher, and I had like emptied it,

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Speaker 1: and so I thought, I'm like, Okay, if I don't

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Speaker 1: empty it now, then I'm just gonna have more and

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Speaker 1: then when we make dinner, and then it's just going

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Speaker 1: to be even more of a chaos. And if I

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Speaker 1: don't help, then he's gonna be like, why aren't you

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Speaker 1: helping me? So I just I kind of was just like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm done with this. I can't if first of all,

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Speaker 1: first of all, whatever I ever said, why are you

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Speaker 1: not helping me. No, Well, I mean it's we just

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Speaker 1: kind of do it together, right, We just do it together.

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Speaker 1: And secondly, that's what that's not like really something to

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Speaker 1: go on strike about doing the dishes, because that's something

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Speaker 1: we both do. I know, But I'm just saying, for example,

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Speaker 1: there's got to be one of these things that you

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Speaker 1: talk about, this would never get done if I didn't

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Speaker 1: do it. Well, okay, I know it would get done,

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Speaker 1: but I'm just saying I would have won things done

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Speaker 1: on more of my time. Like you came home from

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Speaker 1: home depot and there were something sitting on the kitchen counter.

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Speaker 1: I really wanted to move it, but I didn't, and

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Speaker 1: it took two days for you to move it. It

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Speaker 1: was your or deodorant wash stuff that was sitting on

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Speaker 1: the counter that you went to like Walgreens or whatever. Deodorant. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I was sitting on the counter for two days.

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Speaker 1: I counted, and then you finally moved it. Okay, I know,

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Speaker 1: I'll be sure you'd be more conscious of the stuff

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Speaker 1: that you leave around. Okay, Okay, so that's the thing

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Speaker 1: I feel like, maybe you got as just keep more

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Speaker 1: score in your head. No, we don't keep any score.

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Speaker 1: We just want things cleaned. Then just clean him. Do it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: my strike was really bad. I didn't do it. I

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Speaker 1: didn't go over too well. It didn't go well. And

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Speaker 1: then we toured the hospital towards the hospital where the

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Speaker 1: baby's going to be born. Oh that's awesome. What do

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Speaker 1: the rooms look like. I'm having kind of an anxiety

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Speaker 1: attack of they're very small. So we started the tour

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Speaker 1: and they took us into the triage room. And I

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Speaker 1: had a C section with Jolie so at a different hospital.

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Speaker 1: Different That's why we toured the hospital here in l A.

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Speaker 1: And I like, the triage room is really nice where

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Speaker 1: they set you up and everything. But I already am gonn.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a schedule C section because I personally

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Speaker 1: just don't want to do a V back. I know

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Speaker 1: there's risk for both, but I've already had a C

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Speaker 1: and I just agree. I'm a little sad that I

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Speaker 1: missed the vaginal birth experience, but then I quickly get

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Speaker 1: over it. Are you a little bit? Are you? What?

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Speaker 1: What are you? So? You know I was going to

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Speaker 1: go all natural. I was like all in nothing, no epidural,

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Speaker 1: And that's not the way it happened, because did I

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Speaker 1: So Rocco was he was. He was. He was like

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Speaker 1: I'm healthy. You know. I don't think you have to

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Speaker 1: especially when it's out of your control, out of your control.

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Speaker 1: With Jan's it was the same thing where her fever

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Speaker 1: started to spike a little bit. My water broke a

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Speaker 1: vaginal birth after C section? Right? But I could also

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Speaker 1: just couch so when Jolie comes to visit or any

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Speaker 1: friends come to visit. Yes, but I was at Kaiser,

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Speaker 1: deva that we have are fantastic. And the medical yes,

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Speaker 1: there might be something. There might be something. I mean,

422
00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 1: you're traveling and yeah, so something will come over. Okay, right,

423
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: don't don't worry. Not nothing big. But I think, you know,

424
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: I think it'll be good because I think it's it's

425
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: a good way to practice not being defensive and people

426
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: can hear how we work through issues, you know, pampered

427
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: story after. I think it's great. I had someone DM

428
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: me speaking about couples therapy, by the way, and she said,

429
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: do not even know if you will see this. I

430
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: got behind on your podcast because of life. I'm playing

431
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 1: catch up with them now. I am not sure if

432
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: this has been talked about marriage counseling. My husband I

433
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: have been having issues lately. He really wants to go

434
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 1: to counseling. But I see that as a step you

435
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: take before it's over. Help. And I was to me,

436
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: it's I don't think it's something where you it's a

437
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: step before it's over. I think it's it's a step

438
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: you should, personally, in my opinion, you should always take

439
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: to continue to grow. Absolutely, I agree, there is nothing

440
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: better and going into a room forty five minutes and

441
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: somebody listening to you. It's amazing. It is the most

442
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: incredible experience, isn't it. Because but the fact that her

443
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: husband even wants to go, and she's the one that

444
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,479
Speaker 1: he's willy, he's willing to go. There's so many husbands

445
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 1: out there that do not want to go to a

446
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: couple of therapy. And I think it's I think it's

447
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: important either. We we were just having this talk. We

448
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: had went on a date night to see a stars

449
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: but have you seen it? I went to the premier.

450
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: The amount of two tears, I know, I'm already trying.

451
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: I look over and Jenna is already trying. It's like

452
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: the first song Lady Gaga's Things I'm like, this is

453
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: like a happy person, but she's like living her dream

454
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: out there. Like yeah, I mean I was. I was

455
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: having a hard time, like not letting it out in hyperventilating.

456
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: But we want to date now with a few of

457
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: our friends. And we were just talking about marriage and

458
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: in couples therapy, and you know, she said that we

459
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: don't really have anything big, but I kind of want

460
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: to go in and talk, and I think, I think

461
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,479
Speaker 1: that's that's what you should do. I do too. What

462
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: do you think about couples who go to therapy before

463
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: they're even married. I think it's awesome. I think it's great, right,

464
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: I think it's really good. But great, Yeah, but that's

465
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: because he cheated on me. Here's our first Oh yeah,

466
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: I mean that, and we were taking the next step

467
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: and I had moved down there, so I mean we

468
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: knew we wanted to be together. Did that make you

469
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 1: angry that I just said that, I'm trying to Yeah,

470
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: I don't poke the bear. Um. I think that's well,

471
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: it didn't make me because I think that's a big

472
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: difference between me now and before. It's just yeah, I'm

473
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: not hiding behind that shame and more right, But I

474
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: think if you can go to a couple of therapy

475
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: and be authentic, is that's that's the hugest thing, especially

476
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: before you're married, when you're married, if you're having issues,

477
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: if you're not having an issues, I know what I

478
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: would love. I would love people that don't think they

479
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: need therapy to go to therapy. Those people need therapy

480
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: the most. Absolutely could not be a more truer statement.

481
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: If they don't, if they're stuck in their ways, they're

482
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: not going to be open mind. If you're not open

483
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: minded to therapy, I mean, it's not gonna work. You're

484
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: gonna be wasting your time and money. I went to

485
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: couples therapy you did before you got divorced? And and

486
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: how for how long we went? Well, we went for

487
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: an initial couples therapy, and then she suggested that he

488
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: go to individual therapy for a while before we could

489
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: meet back together because we were at such different growth levels.

490
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: Not her right, if she explained, because I had done

491
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: a lot of work I had to when I was

492
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: going to school. Then one day he came home from

493
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: therapy and said, Uh, next week, I need for you

494
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: to go to therapy with me because I'm stuck and

495
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: I need for you to figure out how I get unstocked.

496
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: He asked you that, yes, and I said, I can't

497
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: do that because I'm not your therapist and I'm not you, right,

498
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: and I can't be And that's when I knew, Yeah,

499
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: that's pretty deep to know that that in that moment,

500
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: you can't manage, you can't know. M hm uh isn't

501
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: it great though? When you go into therapy. I love

502
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: this personally when we sit with our couple's therapist and Mike,

503
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm, I'm He tells me. I'm like, well,

504
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: thank you for sharing, and this is how I and

505
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: and he just gets worked up and says all the

506
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: wrong things and I'm just sitting there like, see this, Dan,

507
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: this yet keep going, Mike, dig your graves, to dig

508
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: my own grave and awesome because I'm like, this is

509
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: exactly what I'm dealing with. Door number one. Validation is

510
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: putting on you know, her cross legs, both teams, just

511
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: perfect little teacher's pet. And I'm like, this is what

512
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: I'm not dealing with at home. I did not get

513
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: this at home, what you are seeing right now? No, no, no,

514
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: I just try to handle it. You know, because I

515
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: want him to be proud of even. Do you guys

516
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: have therapy today? No, we had to reschedule it because

517
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: I'm going on a town but for a couple of weeks.

518
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: But I just I want I want our therapist to

519
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: be proud of us because we've I mean, I really

520
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: truly do think he is because about shoot, eight nine

521
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: months ago, I walked in and said, I'm filing for

522
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: divorce and you cannot change my mind. Wow, wow, and yeah,

523
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: and he was just he looked at us and he

524
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: was just like are you sure? And I am sure,

525
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: Please bring him in. And you know, we sat there

526
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: and you know, some other life stuff happened, and you know,

527
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: here we are, but uh yeah it was I was

528
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: we were done. But it's so nice to be able

529
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: to now he's he just sits and I can see

530
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: him like there's a little smile in his you know,

531
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: a little eye and he's like, Okay, you guys are

532
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: you guys have really worked? But you yeah, I was

533
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: just going to say he handed over the tools, but

534
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: you guys did the work. We've done all the work.

535
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: I mean, he's you know, stood by us, and where

536
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: he'd be like Mike, take a walk, take a walk.

537
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: But most of the days it was Mike, why don't

538
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: you go take a walk, because he gets you just

539
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: get very heated. Yeah, he didn't defensive very quick. I

540
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: don't know if that is that just a guy thing

541
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: to get defensive off the bat FA I could say, so, yeah,

542
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: I mean what am I answering for? Did he get

543
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: defensive always? Always? I wonder if that is just a

544
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: dude thing. I don't know, Hey, dudes, to the dudes listening,

545
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: do you get defensive? And there's more of a tendency

546
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: for yeah, for males to get defensive quicker. But you know,

547
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: I think I think it's like all or nothing. It's

548
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: either you're defensive or you're just so either that confident

549
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: or that just don't care. Were just like all right whatever.

550
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: We found out phone in Nick to see if our

551
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: friend Nick, to see why Nick, what's going on with

552
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: he loves couples therapy? We don't he loves that. That's awesome, Yeah, yeah,

553
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: I think but anyone and we and we tell us

554
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: two couples that we know and that we discussed because

555
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: we're again we're very open about we don't hide the

556
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: fact that we go to individual therapy, like we have

557
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: no shame in We're talking to people and what do

558
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: you got today? We got couples are off therapy or

559
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: Chaine therapy. We don't care, and you know it's we

560
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: just know how much it's helped us, So we would

561
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: love to see it helps other relationships that we see.

562
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: Even if you don't think you have a problem, it's

563
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: just a safe place to discuss things. You know, So

564
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: there's doesn't There isn't anything like you know, cobwebs that

565
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: build resentment or anything like that. Hey, I have another

566
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: d m um for Mike's perspective. I know it's a

567
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: very sensitive subject, but I'd love to hear Mike's perspective

568
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: miscarriage and how it affected him. Me and my fiance

569
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: I have had four miscarriages this year and he's been

570
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: really he's been. He's been a great support for me.

571
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: But I feel like I'm not supporting him enough and

572
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: I don't know how to. Um, I don't know, and

573
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 1: I don't know how to. I've spoken to him and

574
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: asked him, but he says he's fine. He has to

575
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: love the podcast. Blah bla blah blah blah, I've never

576
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: thought about that about the guy emotional the other side

577
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: of that, she cares about yes, and she's asked and

578
00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: she's trying message. Um. Yeah. I was just talking to

579
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: uh Greg the other day and him and his wife

580
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: are trying to navicate and and so I was kind

581
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: of coaching him through that stuff. So basically, as a guy,

582
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: there is a tendency obviously where we feel forgotten in

583
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,719
Speaker 1: the process, right because the women, it's their body, it's

584
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: their hormones, it's y'all's emotions and and everything. But it

585
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: takes two to tango, and we're part of it too.

586
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: And I think what's difficult around the miscarriage aspect is because,

587
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: at least from my experience with Janna, the women take

588
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: it so personally that it's their fault that there's a miscarriage.

589
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: It's their fault that they did something wrong. They weren't

590
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: meant that like it's just all about like they just

591
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: feel like it's their fault. So it's hard. It's difficult

592
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: for us to really make it about ourselves in any

593
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: way when we we we don't have that that physical

594
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: feeling of that it could possibly be our fault because

595
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: like women do like that you have this that that

596
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: natural guilt that comes up again in my experience. So

597
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: for us to express any of our feelings of loss,

598
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: it feels very selfish. So naturally we just want to

599
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: be like, no, it's not your fault, it's nothing you did,

600
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: and just and be empathetic and compassionate towards our significant

601
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: others that are you know, that lost the child. But yeah,

602
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: I mean it's hard, it's it's nice too, at least

603
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: to be validated once and and Janna did this, especially

604
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: with the last time. You know, she validated me and

605
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: was like, you know that this is your loss too.

606
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: And so I don't think we need a lot. I

607
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: think we just it's just one of those things you

608
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: recognize and that's okay. We don't need any more than

609
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: just an understanding from our spouse that hey, like, what

610
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: are you feeling? And honestly that will help too, And

611
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: what's I think. I can't speak for Janna, but I

612
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: think what has helped, what helped us with the last

613
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: miscarriage was being able to grieve together because she knew

614
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: what I was feeling. That helps. So you don't you

615
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: think him saying he's fine, he means he's fine. No,

616
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: I don't did it say, did he express any anything? Yeah,

617
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 1: she said, She's been trying to ask him, but he said,

618
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: and he's like, no, I'm fine, Like, how does it

619
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: affect you? How does it affect me? I think that's

620
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: exactly what he's trying to put on a facade for

621
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: her to be tough and be strong for her so

622
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: she can have this latitude to have these emotions when really,

623
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: like you said, Jane, it seems like she's reaching out

624
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: and wanting to know that he shares the same feeling

625
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: of loss, the same pain that she does grieving. In

626
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: grieving yea, which in my experience, we do. But again

627
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: it's just a natural thing to put up a wall,

628
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: so we don't because not yours. I understand that. So

629
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: we're not going to be in the corner like just

630
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: bawling and spin and stuff when it's not our body.

631
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: There's still but it's not just your body. We lost

632
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: a baby, right, but but just the physical aspect of it,

633
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: there's something to be said for that. Yeah, but you

634
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: still feel the loss of Okay, are our baby past? Oh,

635
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: there's no question, no question. So I think so hard

636
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Speaker 1: it's okay for the husbands to open up about that,

637
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Speaker 1: because I think it's just it's beneficial for you guys.

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Speaker 1: I think it's Yeah. I hope that he can grieve

639
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Speaker 1: into any of the guys listening in wives too that

640
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Speaker 1: want that, because I needed to have that. Like last

641
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: one of the miscarriages, I didn't want anything to do

642
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Speaker 1: with them, and I didn't talk to him because I

643
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: just felt I just isolated, went inside. Yeah, and it

644
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: was awful and it was not fair to him. This

645
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: last time we miscarried. I needed that grieving because I

646
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: thought we were done and I thought, you know, this

647
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Speaker 1: is our last embryo, our bull, this is our boy.

648
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Speaker 1: So I needed that like comfort. You needed to feel

649
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Speaker 1: loved and and you needed him to comfort you, especially

650
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Speaker 1: with that being kind of our safety net because we

651
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: had that embryo for the last two and a half years,

652
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: where through other miscarriages were like, Okay, well we have this,

653
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Speaker 1: but we have that, you know, we had that safety

654
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Speaker 1: net of that you know, embryo. Jen question for you

655
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Speaker 1: because I and this is for you too, Mike, but

656
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Speaker 1: from a girl's perspective, when you find out you're pregnant,

657
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: do you think we should wait to tell I understand

658
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: there's the risk, but then you have the risk of

659
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: miscarrying alone, and then nobody knows. So why why can't

660
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Speaker 1: we just yes, there's always going to be a risk,

661
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: But why can't we from day one say because if

662
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Speaker 1: not all these women who are having miscarriages are doing

663
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Speaker 1: it alone because they ended silent. Exactly, they don't No

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Speaker 1: one knows they miscarried. No one knows that they heard

665
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Speaker 1: the heartbeat and then the baby was lost. Like, why

666
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: can't we be like, we're pregnant and and get a

667
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Speaker 1: whole team and if if it doesn't and you end

668
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: up miscarrying, which again it's so common, but then you

669
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Speaker 1: have people there for the system if now there's no

670
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: one there for you. I agree, Yeah, so why did

671
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Speaker 1: we Why are we waiting until three or four months?

672
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: Because it's it's a half glass empty mentality, right, But

673
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: then in your suffering and silence, in silence because nobody knew,

674
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: I told people who were close to me. I found

675
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: out I was pregnant. I was less than two weeks

676
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: and there are I mean, there weren't even there wasn't

677
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Speaker 1: even a heartbeat really, and it was just my hormones

678
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: were fluctuating so I had to keep going in and

679
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: being tested. They actually thought I was having a miscarriage

680
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: um because we're all of the signs of that, and

681
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden there was a heartbeat. Wow,

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Speaker 1: And so I started to tell people. Plus I was older,

683
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Speaker 1: so I felt comfortable telling certain people people in my family.

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Speaker 1: What how how soon after you guys find out you're

685
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Speaker 1: pregnant do you go to your O B it's six

686
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Speaker 1: or seven weeks is when you go for your six six,

687
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Speaker 1: six to eight. But yeah, we we we've always gone

688
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Speaker 1: between the six and seven mark. And then twelve is

689
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Speaker 1: when they say to tell people, right right, right, I think,

690
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Speaker 1: but we've we've heard heartbeats at seven and then we've

691
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Speaker 1: lost Yeah, I think, is it shouldn't be day one

692
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Speaker 1: the first time you piano steak and you get a line. No,

693
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Speaker 1: but a heck of a lot sooner. Absolutely, I definitely

694
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Speaker 1: agree with you on that. So to avoid that feeling silent,

695
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Speaker 1: I had a friend recently who was five weeks pregnant.

696
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Speaker 1: She told me when she was five weeks, which I

697
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: thought was really smart of her, because then I'm checking

698
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: on her, asking her how she's feeling, how's everything going,

699
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: and She built a support system system around her so

700
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Speaker 1: that she could go through this with other people, and

701
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: it is sad to have to. You know, when we

702
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: do miscarry, it's like, hey, can you just text the

703
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: family because I don't want to have to text everyone

704
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: saying lost the baby. We lost the baby. And I

705
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Speaker 1: understand maybe people not wanting that that might be a

706
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Speaker 1: big part of it. I think it is. It's facing

707
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Speaker 1: it and having to tell people right, which is awful,

708
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: but then isn't to me, it's worth facing it alone, right,

709
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Speaker 1: like just like staying in bed all day, all alone

710
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: and on Instagram trying to pretend like I'm happy, but

711
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: I actually just faing miscarried. You know, oh no, sorry

712
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: freaking miscarried. So you know, it's I get so I

713
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Speaker 1: get both sides of it. But for me to the

714
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Speaker 1: feeling of being alone and not having someone is worse

715
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: for me. So I guess it's like your own personal preference.

716
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Speaker 1: But if you, if you, if I throw it out there,

717
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Speaker 1: let's have let's see how people. Yeah, yeah, let's see

718
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Speaker 1: how people feel. There's definitely a good question. But like

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Speaker 1: Jen said, I think that's a great thing is if

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Speaker 1: you if you build just at least a small support

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722
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Speaker 1: it could be your parents, but maybe it's not because

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725
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726
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Speaker 1: you don't want to deal with all those questions every day,

727
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Speaker 1: especially if this thing happens, you know, if that unfortunate

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Speaker 1: event happens. So but at least build some kind of

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Speaker 1: small and don't feel hesitant to build that important You

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Speaker 1: have permission. And if you guys have any stories about

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Speaker 1: waiting versus not waiting, email us at Janna Cramer at

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Speaker 1: email you want to read. I do so. This was

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Speaker 1: from our actually our have a seat with Janna Mike

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00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,959
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. But I thought it was pretty

789
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: interesting because it's a different perspective. So I'll keep this

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00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: anonymous or do we say first name? Let's do it hot. Okay,

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00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: So the email is, we always hear about Mike's flaws

792
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: and mistakes. I would love to hear from Mike's perspective

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00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: what Janna has gender. Sorry, I was here about mike

794
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: flaws mistakes. I'd like to hear how great he is.

795
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Speaker 1: That's where I thought I was gonna go, like, Darling,

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Speaker 1: you're so before you even laugh about this, I have

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00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: the same thing, Jenn, Well, yeah, how I was like,

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Speaker 1: let's just tell all Mike's attributes, right, and then I thought, ask,

799
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Speaker 1: can we hear about Janna's flaws? And I didn't even think,

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00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: oh wait, there's more. Okay, this podcast is Mike's great, Alright,

801
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: let's hear it anyway. We always hear about Mike's flaws

802
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: and mistakes. I would love to hear from Mike's perspective

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00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: what Janna has done to create his behaviors in the past,

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Speaker 1: to help women understand how to create a safer environment

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Speaker 1: for their husband as well. Usually men make mistakes based

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Speaker 1: on behaviors too. I'd like to see Janna open up

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00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: about her flaws. Thank you. Now, did you email him

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Speaker 1: back and say, I'm sorry, my wife has zero flaws. Yes,

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Speaker 1: first of all, my wife is perfect and has zero no.

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Speaker 1: But my whole reason that one stuck out to me

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Speaker 1: because because he wanted me to well know, I appreciate

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Speaker 1: not that I want you to talk about flaws. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate her willingness to want to understand her husband more

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Speaker 1: and to and to clean up her side of the street,

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Speaker 1: as I say in the therapy world, as you mentioned.

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Speaker 1: So for for me, from my perspective, it's it's not

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Speaker 1: about what like Jane does or or what anyone else

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Speaker 1: does in your life, because you're responsible for your own actions, right,

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Speaker 1: And that's what I've learned through a lot of this process,

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Speaker 1: is that regardless of anything, I'm responsible for my own

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Speaker 1: actions in the same situation here, but by being more open,

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Speaker 1: by being validating and being soft with your partner, whether

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Speaker 1: male or female, and inviting them to share feelings about

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Speaker 1: something and really asking, you know, what they need. It

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Speaker 1: just opens that line of communication to maybe avoid things

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Speaker 1: that maybe I did in the past because I didn't

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Speaker 1: feel like dealing with because we didn't talk about not

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Speaker 1: saying as Jana's fault, but that's my fault also. But again,

829
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Speaker 1: as men were naturally not as communicative as women and

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Speaker 1: don't want to talk about feelings as much as you guys.

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Speaker 1: So if that was something where those lines of communication

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Speaker 1: were more open and it felt like a safe place,

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Speaker 1: That's really the only thing I have to say around

834
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Speaker 1: kind of that email is just to invite your significant other,

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Speaker 1: your your husband to meet you there m hm, your face,

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Speaker 1: Jannah says, says everything no, no, totally no no no, no,

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Speaker 1: no no, And like theraposess, there's no butt. And I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously we all have flaws, and I think one of

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Speaker 1: my biggest flaws is also something that is hard because

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Speaker 1: in the beginning, one of my flaws was I just

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Speaker 1: blamed him for how I was feeling because of what

842
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 1: he did. So I lived with that longer than I should.

843
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: So that's a flaw. So I lived with you know, well,

844
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: I'm feeling this way because you did this and you

845
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: did that and you ruined this and so. But then

846
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: it then you have to kind of look at the

847
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: mirror and go, Okay, it's time to do my work.

848
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: How long am I going to keep like pointing a

849
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: finger and playing blame game? So that was definitely a flaw.

850
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: And then I think another flaw too is knowing And

851
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: then for women out there to your husband does, like

852
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: you said, your husband does have feelings and being able

853
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: to invite the husband to talk to you. And sometimes

854
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: we only get stuck in our own flaws, in our

855
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: own feelings, right because you can only you can't control

856
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: other people's actions, only your reaction, and you guys know that.

857
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: And if you're stuck on the action, you're stuck in

858
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: your head and your you are you're playing like the

859
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: blame game forever and you'll never get past that. And

860
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: by the way, perfect is boring. Oh yeah, and no

861
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: relationship is perfect. And also being um being invited to

862
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: the sense of you know, asking for what you need,

863
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: but also asking your partner for what they need, right,

864
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: like going up to your husband again, just mistake of

865
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: this email. It's the example, but going up to your

866
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: husband and saying, do you need anything for me? Yeah?

867
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: It's so simple, it sounds it could be a physical thing,

868
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: it could be whatever. It could be a task, uld

869
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: be anything. Do you need anything for me? He might say, no, okay,

870
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: I just want to check. Oh, you know what we

871
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: should do? That should be channeling the challenge this week

872
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: because so last week will strike. This challenge should be

873
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: so for all the wives listening right now, wives, girlfriends,

874
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 1: go up to your partner, maile listeners to however many

875
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: mail listeners where you at go up to your significant

876
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: other whatever, whoever they may be, and so, yeah, what

877
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: do you need anything for me? It's a really beautiful gesture.

878
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: And I would love for them to email Jannet Kramer

879
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: at I heart media dot com just to see what

880
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: their response was. Reaction was what the reaction was, Hey,

881
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: do you need anything for me this week? Or the

882
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: looks for confusion? Imagine what keep your iPhone or not

883
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: your iPhone? Keep your take a picture. We want to

884
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: see the face. I love that though. I think that's

885
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,959
Speaker 1: it's a good challenge challenge of the week. We should

886
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: do that. Every week, we should do a challenge of

887
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: the week. I love that. So then it's going to

888
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: help build a relationship. That's going to help people people

889
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: in their relationships. Besides the tool last week of going

890
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: on strike. Hey, sometimes you have to go on star

891
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: sometimes you do, speaking of you, but yeah, let's challenge.

892
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: Let's do a relationship challenge every week. I like it too.

893
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: I do too. Hey, honey, what do you what do

894
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: you need from me? Is there anything you need from me?

895
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 1: You guys, wait to get home to do that. Okay, Um,

896
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: speaking of going on strike? Do you ever feel like

897
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: you're totally failing as a mom? How many times? I mean,

898
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: do you read to Julie every night? Do you read

899
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: one book? Two books, three books? No books? Sometimes I

900
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 1: feel bad when I just read one book, like I'm

901
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: not a good enough mom for just reading one book.

902
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: And sometimes I start, yeah, he always reads two or more,

903
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: but I didn't. But sometimes I feel terrible because I'll

904
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: skip pages because I'm just tired, or just put her

905
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 1: to bed, so I'll abbreviate this story doesn't make sense.

906
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: I abbreviate the story and I skip pages. The princess

907
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: and the end there were just five little pumpkins. How

908
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: can there be too? I know, but I right now

909
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: like I don't think she gets enough to know that them.

910
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: I know, but but that That's an example of how

911
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: sometimes I feel like I'm not good enough mom because

912
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: because I I'm skipping time like that, right, So I

913
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: just just want to put her to bed, I know.

914
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: And I was the same way when Rocco was that age.

915
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: But I did read to him a lot, and I

916
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: just got an email. You know, he's in first right now,

917
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: and I just got an email that he's not hitting

918
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: his benchmark and reading. And I was horrified, horrified. I

919
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: was like, how can how can my kid not be reading?

920
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: I was reading it for although he is really good

921
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: at math, I can't even he asked me math questions

922
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: sometimes and I'm like, wait, where is the calculator? Try,

923
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: I'll be counting on my hands. I'm going to teach

924
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: Janna and Jeley math at the same time. Okay, so

925
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? So I went to Burns

926
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: and Nobles and I have got all kinds of flash

927
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: cards for I mean, I went crazy book books, flash cards,

928
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: all kinds of books, more books, more books, more books.

929
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: Get the teacher make you feel like you're a bad mom,

930
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: or did you make yourself feel like I just took

931
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: it personal. I was you know, you get an email

932
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: like that and it's like, oh my god, what what

933
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: do you mean? I'm not doing enough at home? So

934
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: then I enlisted, right, Yeah, So now I'm ubering my

935
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 1: mom over once a week as well. She's coming actually

936
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: coming over tonight because she was a special education teacher

937
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: and a principle and you know, administrator, and I feel

938
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: like she has the tools, like if anybody can do it,

939
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,479
Speaker 1: she can do it. So now once a week she's

940
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: going to putty mom to work. Because he just not

941
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: enjoy reading. He has fun. I think he gets frustrated.

942
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: He gets frustrated, and we need to build this confidence.

943
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: I don't think he's you know, confident enough when it

944
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: comes to it. And which brings me to another issue

945
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: is last night he said, I mean he's six, and

946
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: he said I'm popular, and I went, uh, really wow,

947
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: I said, what does that mean? I wanted to see

948
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: what he has popular? He said, well, everybody likes to

949
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 1: play with me, everyone likes to talk to me. Everybody

950
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: thinks I'm cute. And I was like hold on though, right,

951
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: I think it's good. But I also it left me

952
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: with sort of an icky feeling because I started thinking,

953
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: are there other first graders who are six year old

954
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: who don't feel popular, who don't feel And I just

955
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: felt really sad, and I'm just wondering, is this one

956
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: it starts. I'm scared of that. For no, kids that

957
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: age should feel popular, not popular. They should all feel

958
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: popular in a sense. They should all feel good. They're

959
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: all friends and they're six year olds. They should be

960
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: playing and having fun with everyone. Well where do they

961
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: think that that you guys like as parents, Where do

962
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: they learn popularity from? It's a really good question, Yeah

963
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 1: it is. I don't know. I think it's at school.

964
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 1: I would imagine any TV too, TV. Probably television. Again,

965
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. The popularity thing scares me because I

966
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, I mean I wasn't. I was very

967
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: nice middle school on but in elementary school, I don't

968
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: think I was very nice to this one Canva bus

969
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: and I that's the thing. I don't know. I've looked

970
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: him up on Facebook because I kind of wanted to apologize.

971
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: I felt bad I would make fun of him because

972
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: the other kids are making fun of him. So that

973
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: scares me for when Jolie jumps on that band bandwagon.

974
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: And here's the thing, if she if someone knows that

975
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 1: she's doing it, I want that person to come tell

976
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: me because that is the one thing that I will

977
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 1: lose my marble if they find out they were picking

978
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: on other kids. Because that's one thing I take very

979
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: a lot of pride in is I never did that.

980
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: You didn't never did. And I can go back to

981
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: grade school. I was never one to pick on kids.

982
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: I always wanted to protect to an extent. So that's

983
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: something to me that I just there's zero tolerance, zero

984
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 1: place for or you know, raising our kids. That's awesome,

985
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 1: that is well. And that's crazy because I still remember

986
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: I mean I was never bullied or anything, but I

987
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: can still remember the comments that I would get from

988
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: like an elementary school. I'm like, how do I remember that?

989
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: Because it's so hurtful. Yeah, because he was like, oh,

990
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: like you're a whale or something. And I'm sure it

991
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: was just like being funny or whatever. But I obviously

992
00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm like almost six ft tall, Like I'm like, I

993
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: was full grown by like second grade, so like just

994
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: put those words like I'm not I don't hold it

995
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: in my own heart, like I'm not defined by his words,

996
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: but like I still remember that. And I was in

997
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 1: elementary school in sixth grade. I got like a little

998
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: chubby at the beginning of the year in Tony Dzelia

999
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: in sixth grade called me chubby, and I can still

1000
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm still in that moment sometimes where I can see

1001
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 1: his face and hear him saying it. Bobby was mine

1002
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,479
Speaker 1: in sixth grade. He took a binder and he goes,

1003
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: that's your chest. He laughed that. I've never forgotten that.

1004
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: He slapped on his binder, put his hand across and said,

1005
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: that's your chest. I was in sixth grade. That's awful.

1006
00:55:54,200 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: Sixth grade. Yeah, and you're laughing. Where's Bobby now? Well,

1007
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: it's creative bites. Is just the the other one? Yeah,

1008
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: I've never heard that story, you know, Yeah, but it's

1009
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: been something. But it's we remember our Did you not

1010
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: have the name? Name? And memory? Me too? Where I

1011
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: was everything? Everything? I know exactly where I was in

1012
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: the classroom. Are you in elementary school eleven? Well? I was.

1013
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: I was sixth grade, but I mean elementary school. It's

1014
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: scary sixth grade is eleven eleven, But where are they

1015
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: learning these from? That's what I want to know, Like

1016
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: when did I realize what popularity was? And I was

1017
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 1: never popular? Like I was always in like a world

1018
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: that was advanced, but I don't think I ever really

1019
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: knew it popularity. I always know like maybe I wasn't popular,

1020
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: but like I was friends with everyone. I could hang

1021
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: out with the popular people and then I would walk

1022
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: down and hang out with my favorite skaters or you know,

1023
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: musician or you know whatever. I I was the again

1024
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: in fifth grade, I kind of went with went with

1025
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: the crowd and I was mean to that one kid

1026
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: and I still feel bad. But sixth grade on I did.

1027
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: I never bullied anyone, and it was always Lisa was

1028
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 1: the Lisa was the pretty girl, she was the popular one,

1029
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: and I was kind of just her friend, the friend,

1030
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,959
Speaker 1: the sidekick. But then senior year, I was voted most

1031
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: likely to end up on the cover of Glamour and

1032
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: look what happened, and that's sprouted. No, but I was

1033
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: never a pop I wasn't I wasn't the sports player.

1034
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: I wasn't the athlete, right, I just was kind of

1035
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: it was just nice to everybody but bully scare me,

1036
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: and I'm so scared for that. I'm so I pray

1037
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: that she's not a bully or being bullied. But having

1038
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: said that, though, Michael, you made a really good point

1039
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: the other day you nick talked about, didn't you. I

1040
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: don't know who I talked about with, but basically I

1041
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: kind of got this from Chris Rock did a stand

1042
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: up special on Netflix recently and he talked about bulliest

1043
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: this bit on bullys and it was really funny, but

1044
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot of truth to it too, where you know,

1045
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: the world is filled with a holes, the world is

1046
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: filled with bullies. If you go all through the beginning

1047
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: of your life not facing some kind of adversity from

1048
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: a bully, then what are you going to do when

1049
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: you're an adult and you see that for the first

1050
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: time at your first job or something like that, and

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Speaker 1: It's not that bullying, We're not You're not saying bullying

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Speaker 1: It depends. Sometimes you need to have some thick skin.

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Speaker 1: You have to learn how to stick up for yourself

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be bullies. Scary. Adverse effect to that

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Speaker 1: and then my business manager is getting Yes, robin is

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Speaker 1: so this was fun. I'm really glad that we had this.

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Speaker 1: We've had a lot of discussions. I've got a lot

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Speaker 1: of things, a lot of good talks today and I'm

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Speaker 1: really interested to see what you guys thought too of

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Speaker 1: today's show and any feedback from the challenge that we

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