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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: What a twenty four hours it has been, and what

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Speaker 2: a twenty four hours it is going to be.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in. It is a Saturday night and we've got

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Speaker 3: a Game seven right in front of us.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins is going to be dealing with the Game

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Speaker 2: seven tomorrow night. We are in the thick of it,

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Speaker 2: the thick of it when it comes to the NBA

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Speaker 2: Playoffs as a company from the Fox Sports Radio Studios,

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Speaker 2: Hit Ryan the ten year vet up at the Ryan

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Speaker 2: Hollins on Next you can find me at Dan Byer

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Speaker 2: on Fox. We're getting a taste right now, Ryan Hollins,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna get the front row seat tomorrow night when

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Speaker 2: the Rockets are home to the Warriors. And for those

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Speaker 2: that don't know, Ryan is the color analyst for the

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Speaker 2: Rockets television broadcast.

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Speaker 3: So what has this twenty four hours been like for you?

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Speaker 2: After the huge win last night against the Golden State

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Speaker 2: Warriors to force that Game seven, now you've got this

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Speaker 2: Game seven going on in Denver, and then you got

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Speaker 2: to switch your attention back to Warrior years and Rockets.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be an absolute whirlwind of a weekend

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Speaker 2: for you.

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Speaker 4: No, it is. You feel as much excitement as you

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Speaker 4: do unrest and I want to stay man. Our our

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Speaker 4: group probably still has ptst from that game for a

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Speaker 4: loss when our young crew could not hit a free throw. So, uh,

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Speaker 4: it's definitely excitement. You definitely see the cheers and again

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Speaker 4: probably some of the frustration of you know, we know

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Speaker 4: how good our group is and they went out and

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Speaker 4: showed it. And now you see the national media and

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Speaker 4: the fans starting to buy in. And that's the best

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Speaker 4: and worst part of the playoffs is everybody's all in,

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Speaker 4: everybody's excited, and everybody's watching. But the worst part is

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Speaker 4: you know, a guy all of a sudden can't play.

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Speaker 4: He's horrible, he's this, he's that, all these things, and

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Speaker 4: then you know two days later, Oh, they're so good,

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Speaker 4: they're so amazing. There's so this, there's so that, you know,

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Speaker 4: just just the sway in mindset towards these players, and

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Speaker 4: you know, I've had it from the players standpoint. It's

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Speaker 4: just there is nothing higher than that, and you really

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Speaker 4: have to, you know, tune it out.

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Speaker 2: We'll keep you up to date of what's happening in

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Speaker 2: Denver Clippers, who are the twenty six to twenty one

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Speaker 2: and the first quarter lead. And so we'll keep you

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Speaker 2: abreast of what's happening in that game seven and talk

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Speaker 2: about what's happening in that contest. But I am curious

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Speaker 2: because what has your twenty four hours been like? Because

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Speaker 2: if you're going through it as a TV guy, the

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Speaker 2: players have to be going through it, and they're the ones.

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Speaker 2: No offense to Ryan Hollins who puts in, you know,

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Speaker 2: yeoman's work when it comes to the broadcast, it's also

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Speaker 2: different when you're actually playing a game six. And the

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Speaker 2: reason I'm curious about this is because I think this

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Speaker 2: shed some light on a topic that has been rising

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Speaker 2: throughout the week considering the elimination of the Lakers. So

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Speaker 2: what has been I assume you guys got in early

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Speaker 2: this morning from your trip to San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: What's it been like?

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Speaker 4: Well, for one, the flight is horrible. It's about at

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Speaker 4: least a three hour plus flight, So that clo. That's

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Speaker 4: first and foremost, okay, And then again, you don't have

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Speaker 4: time to rest, like our guys are right back in

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Speaker 4: the weight room lifting weights after the game. Our guys

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Speaker 4: went and worked out after the game. That's part of

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Speaker 4: it because you have to think about the longevity, and

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Speaker 4: you don't have time to sit back and really think.

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Speaker 4: But you know, the jet lag is real man. On

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Speaker 4: top of that, you know, three hour plus flight, you

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Speaker 4: over there and you're waking up and your body's like, dude,

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Speaker 4: it's five in the morning right now, in six in

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Speaker 4: the morinning, So you're definitely thrown off. And then the

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Speaker 4: TV games change and from the players standpoint, your workout

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Speaker 4: time change, shoot aroundant change, you know, so it's really

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Speaker 4: you know, learning everything on the fly. But for the guys,

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Speaker 4: it's absolutely exhausting. And that was one of my big reasons,

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Speaker 4: my big keys on why Houston is more equipped to

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Speaker 4: beat Golden State the longer this series goes on, because

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Speaker 4: you know, they can go get that one game or

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Speaker 4: two game where our young guys have to adapt. But

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Speaker 4: as time goes on, you recover a lot different in

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Speaker 4: your twenties, and we got a lot of twenty somethings

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Speaker 4: versus in your mid thirties. And that's the best players

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Speaker 4: from the Golden State Warriors. You know, this is Jimmy

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Speaker 4: it does. And I think in that last game it

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Speaker 4: really looked like it took a toll on Jimmy Butler.

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Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler came out, as you know, on point, as

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Speaker 4: you can imagine, and he exerted a lot of energy

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Speaker 4: where normally he drives the hole, he kind of just

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Speaker 4: passes and let somebody else get involved. He looked to

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Speaker 4: be aggressive offensively. And then the second half, man, I

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Speaker 4: think it really took a toll on him. Dad.

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Speaker 2: I think that it's it's well, it's well put considering

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Speaker 2: what happened in game five. And this is why I

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Speaker 2: ask you, like, if you guys are if you guys

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Speaker 2: are landing in Houston at like six am this morning,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know what the exact time, you know,

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Speaker 2: frame it is. The Warriors timetable is not too different.

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Speaker 4: For one, let me clarify you. Okay, it's a three

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Speaker 4: hour flight from Golden State and then we get two hours.

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Speaker 4: If we get two hours at it all.

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Speaker 3: Sure, so so then what time is that?

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Speaker 4: So then so we got in about like four o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so four we.

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Speaker 4: Laughed around back pulls around eight thirty and the bus

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Speaker 2: Okay, so four in the morning. So when you got back,

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Speaker 2: no morning this morning? Oh okay, okay, hey, hey, you can't.

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Speaker 3: Listen, No, we can.

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Speaker 2: We can trade barbs and we laugh and you and

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Speaker 2: I know each other well enough. But I was under

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Speaker 2: the impression that you go, you did your workout, and

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Speaker 2: then you guys came back in the morning. That isn't

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Speaker 2: that isn't that far fetched, is it? I mean to

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Speaker 4: You know, if this was a shorter flight, we would

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Speaker 4: have gone last night, sure and slop in our own beds.

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Speaker 4: But if we came in, we'd be getting in five

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Speaker 4: six in the morning. So no, no, no, with that.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's like an NBA rule or

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Speaker 4: by a sleep standard, but when you have that amount

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Speaker 3: Will stay over.

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Speaker 4: So that's that that Golden State's one of those places

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Speaker 4: always stay over. So that's one thing that's more terrible.

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Speaker 4: But it bodes in Houston's favor because they have the

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Speaker 4: thirty something's doing that. So no, no, no, sorry, we did

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Speaker 4: not go you know, last night or whatever. But nonetheless

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Speaker 4: it's still you still.

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Speaker 3: See I wasn't. I wasn't in the left field.

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Speaker 4: Like no, no, no, yes no, but normally, yes, you

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Speaker 4: would love to come back that night. You know, you

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Speaker 4: wouldn't love it, but it's better than staying.

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Speaker 2: I always tell the story this is I covered a

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Speaker 2: few NBA Finals in my day and in two thousand

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Speaker 2: and seven, and the NBA Finals schedule.

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Speaker 3: Has changed to allow more rest.

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Speaker 2: There's there may be like like two sets of games

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Speaker 2: but otherwise the NBA tries to give you ample rest.

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Speaker 2: But there was a time when the games were only

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Speaker 2: on Thursdays, Sundays and Tuesdays. And the Spurs and Calves

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Speaker 2: were playing in the seven Finals, and the Calves got

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Speaker 2: ran off the court in Game two in San Antonio,

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Speaker 2: and there was a Game three that was a Sunday night,

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Speaker 2: and there was a Game three in Cleveland on Tuesday night,

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Speaker 2: and I remember the Calves were going out after that night, Okay,

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Speaker 2: so I knew that they were staying in town.

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Speaker 3: They weren't flying back to Cleveland. They were staying overnight.

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Speaker 2: So that's so it's so I get the concept of it,

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Speaker 2: but like they were going out that night and I thought,

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Speaker 2: oh boy, like you're down two in a series and

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Speaker 2: you got a quick turnaround. I granted a little bit

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Speaker 2: younger than the Spurs maybe could handle it. And they,

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Speaker 2: when you have a longer flight, and maybe San Antonio

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Speaker 2: But the point goes back to what you're talking about

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Speaker 2: with the ages when you're in your thirties and your

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Speaker 2: lot of people felt like the Warriors are putting their

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Speaker 2: it off. Our guys are gonna play a lot of

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Speaker 2: six that was two days later. Now Here you are

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Speaker 2: your guys played a lot of minutes? Ryan Hollins in

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Speaker 2: Golden State, Jimmy Butler, Steph Curry both had over forty

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Speaker 2: five on Wednesday night, I felt they didn't have as

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Speaker 2: in that game four loss in Minnesota. Now to have

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Speaker 2: Golden State kind of put all their eggs in one

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Speaker 2: be difficult for them tomorrow night.

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Speaker 4: No, you're spot on, and that's absolutely what Kurr did.

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Speaker 4: And he knew that he had to find a way

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Speaker 4: to rest his guys and he had. You know, they

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Speaker 4: were in the driver's seat when they stolen at home

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Speaker 4: care of business. And because of that, Steve Kerr absolutely

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Speaker 4: was for sure the mindset and that's why he did it.

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Speaker 4: Now at the end of the day, Yeah, Houston swayed everything.

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Speaker 4: And the reason I knew it was going down like

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Speaker 4: that is because I saw it happen before it actually

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Speaker 4: happened to me, Dan, and we've talked about this, and

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Speaker 4: I know the mindset, and it was actually Lebron. Lebron

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Speaker 4: and we were up three to one, and they just

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Speaker 4: essentially have to get that game at your place, and

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Speaker 4: they got the game at our place. We knew the

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Speaker 4: series was over because we weren't going to beat him

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Speaker 4: in Mia for a number of reasons. You know, I

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Speaker 4: don't I don't want to say the referees. I think

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Speaker 4: that would be petty. But they run faster, they jump higher,

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Speaker 4: and they're they're going to have a lot of energy

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Speaker 4: at home, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and and honestly, like in this situation, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's compared to when you were

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Speaker 2: night shows why Houston was the two seed in Golden

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Speaker 2: Because that's what it comes down to. It's they are

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Speaker 2: I can't bet against playoff Jimmy. Now you get to

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Speaker 4: And our guys have figured that out, Dan, So I

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Speaker 4: And it's not the same mindset that you're used to seeing.

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Speaker 4: Well, is that all figured out. The role player has

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Speaker 3: Well, it should be interesting tomorrow night.

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Speaker 2: It's the second it's the late game tomorrow night that

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Speaker 3: The game going on right now, the other games seven

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Speaker 2: at the Ryan Hollins. You can find me at Dan

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Speaker 2: whittling down the NBA playoff picture to eight. Is there

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Speaker 2: To Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Dan Byer. He's Ryan Hollins ten,

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Speaker 2: your NBA VET now, the television analysts for the Houston

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Speaker 2: We are keeping our eye on what's happening in Denver

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Speaker 2: That's who we have to ask ourselves. If you're a

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Speaker 2: H okay process of elimination. Boston and New York eliminated

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Speaker 2: I think the Indiana Pacers and John Halliburton have ruined

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Speaker 2: the taunting. How are you gonna how are you gonna

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Speaker 2: with that. The most organic squad that I think American

434
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 2: can get behind in Seattle, I'm sorry, but it is

435
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 2: the Oklahoma City Thunder for what they have accomplished this

436
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 2: season and for how this team has been put together.

437
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 2: Remember Sga was the good young player in the Paul

438
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 2: George deal, not an MVP candidate, not MVP caliber, not

439
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 2: the MVP of the league, which we think he's going

440
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 2: to be, but the good young player in all of this.

441
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 3: The piece is that they have put together.

442
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: Sure, they got chet Holmgren number two overall, early lottery pick.

443
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 2: I get all that there have been some other lottery

444
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 2: picks as while, but we're not talking top five guys.

445
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 4: Why are we not cheering for lottery picks?

446
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 3: Well, just because I don't think that. I don't think

447
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 3: that you should. I think that it's an easy way

448
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 3: when you like this.

449
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 2: The Pistons story has been great because the Pistons have

450
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 2: been bad. But then again, it's like, well, you got

451
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 2: Kid Cunningham number one overall. Jalen Duran was a lottery pick.

452
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: I mean, the Sir Thompson was a lottery pick. Like

453
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: the Pistons were always in the lottery. At some point,

454
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 2: it's going to hit. So like we were rewarding badness,

455
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 2: we were rewarding bad play. And I think the way

456
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 2: that the Oklahoma City Thunder were put together in taking

457
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 2: their losses and rebounding from now the Durant Westbrook era

458
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 2: and being able to build this juggernaut, they may be

459
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 2: good for the next twenty years can ing all the

460
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 2: picks that they've had, and by the way, they haven't

461
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: thrown away their picks, They're still accumulating them and using

462
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: them in different spots.

463
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: I think the Oklahoma City Thunder should be America's team

464
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 3: this year.

465
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 4: Here's why I will. I hear what you're saying. I

466
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 4: think what's hurting Oklahoma City the one being in Oklahoma City.

467
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 4: It's not really the most beautiful place to go. With

468
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 4: all due respect, I think.

469
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 3: There's other places you'd picked to vacation. That's nice, we say.

470
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 4: And here's the thing. Yeah, if you're from Oklahoma, you're

471
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 4: a Midwest person. I'm sure you probably have more love

472
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 4: or more affinity towards Oklahoma Okay, here's the thing with Shae.

473
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 4: Shae's fashion helps. He is an icon, and we're speaking

474
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 4: more so to the young people, not to the me

475
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 4: and you, Dan. But here's where Shae has kind of

476
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 4: lost some of his fans or the excitement, and along

477
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 4: with Jalen Brunson, it's the foul baiting when they see

478
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 4: him getting to the free throw line. And it is

479
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 4: a skill. James Harden had done it, and James Harden

480
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 4: had probably lost some fans because of it also, But

481
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 4: those players that really draw fouls, they don't have the

482
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 4: same respect or excitement. And I think it, although I

483
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 4: respect it, I get it. I know the skill that

484
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 4: Shaye's put forth in doing such. I think he's lost

485
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 4: some fans in that regard. I challenge you, and I

486
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 4: think maybe I gotta get hip to your times. I

487
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 4: think the Houston Rockets, by far this whole season, have

488
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 4: been a team beyond my bias to get behind the

489
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 4: reason that I say it, Dan, and tell me if

490
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 4: I'm wrong. It's that young blood of Amen Thompson, Jalen Green,

491
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 4: our Princhhing Goon. It's always those young teams that excite

492
00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 4: a fan base or a younger fan that's trying to

493
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 4: get into the game of basketball. And you see those

494
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 4: guys and the young people relate more so to the

495
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 4: men Thompson's and the Jalen Greens and the Jabari Smith

496
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 4: juniors than they do to the Van Vliets or the

497
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 4: older players. So there's something about these being, you know,

498
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 4: second and third year guys in the mix that's really

499
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 4: exciting people to the Houston Rockets.

500
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Speaker 3: I can agree with what you are saying. Here's why.

501
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 2: Again, they have so many not only do they have

502
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: lottery picks, they have so many top five lottery picks.

503
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 3: And that's that's my thing. That's a negative. I know

504
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 3: you don't, but I do.

505
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 2: I think as we are trying to decipher the reason

506
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: to cheer, I mean Jalen Green, Jabari Smith, Reed Shepherd

507
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: doesn't even play, and I mean he's a top lottery pick.

508
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 2: Like there's I think I'm in went ahead of a sore.

509
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: I think there were four or five.

510
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 4: If I don't think if this was the first pick,

511
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 4: that doesn't hurt because those top picks don't always work out.

512
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 4: I don't think people look at it like I don't

513
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 4: want to see the rock pick do well, but say

514
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 4: like their their youth. Okay, let me give you this

515
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 4: to Dan our playing style. Our guys play hard and Dan,

516
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 4: we've had several shows right where the big fuss about

517
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 4: the NBA is that we don't the league doesn't play

518
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 4: hard enough, and we have a group that like gets

519
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 4: after it. They they they're they're they're tough, they're physical,

520
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 4: they're athletic, they're exciting. But the physical play from an

521
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 4: NBA fans standpoint, I've heard a lot of people, even

522
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 4: the the ogs of the league, the throwback players, going, man,

523
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 4: y'all play hard. I like, what y'all do? You guys

524
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 4: play hard, You guys are tough, you guys don't back down.

525
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 4: It's not a it's not the prettiest style of basketball

526
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 4: under coach u Doka, but it's the I think it's

527
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 4: a style that people want to see. They're like, cool,

528
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 4: it's been a while. These guys play hard, they get

529
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 4: after you. It's a it's it's tough basketball.

530
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what it's.

531
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough to have America's team get behind

532
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 2: the Canadian villain of Dylan Brooks. But I also think

533
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: the history of em Udoka and how he ends up

534
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: in Houston is not going to help factors when you're

535
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: looking at America's team. So I think that that aspect

536
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: of it as well of Okay, we're not gonna hold

537
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 2: things against someone forever. But if we're making like this

538
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 2: sake of this argument and how it happened, I do

539
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: think that those things come into play. I think they

540
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: absolutely come into play. I'm not saying Houston is the

541
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,959
Speaker 2: bad guy. I'm not saying that. I just don't think

542
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: that they're the candidate to overtake Oklahoma City as the

543
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: America's team to cheer for.

544
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 4: This city has this. Now, now let me ask you this.

545
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 4: When you're saying cheer for what demographic are you talking to.

546
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: I'm just talking for the team that didn't sit in

547
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: the front of the lottery and have a top five

548
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: pick year in and year out and load up and

549
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: hit and miss. Like I was talking about the Pistons

550
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 2: a little bit with the Rockets, talking about you can't

551
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: just you can't just casually be a Celtics fan, right

552
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: like you can't be like, you know, I'm not gonna

553
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 2: cheer for Boston this year, Like no, They've got, you know,

554
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: eighteen championships there's there's no way that you can cheer

555
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 2: for them.

556
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 3: I don't think any New York team in.

557
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: Any sport is that team that you get behind because

558
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: that's New York's team and they're going to be obnoxious

559
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: about their team.

560
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 3: So you're trying to find, Okay, well, where do we go?

561
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 3: Where do we look at?

562
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: And the way that Oklahoma City was able to be

563
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: almost in a way organically built. You know, a guy

564
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: like Lou Dort Jalen Williams was not I mean he

565
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: was a lottery pick, but later on in the lottery,

566
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: the players that they've been able to put together, acquiring

567
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: Alex Caruso in a in a nice deal from the

568
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: Chicago Bulls to bring I think that the way that

569
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: they've been formed organically, and with the history of Durant

570
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: leaving and then Russell Westbrook's situation not necessarily working out

571
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: and now SGA blossoming into a star, I think there's

572
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: a lot to get behind it.

573
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 3: Oklahoma City.

574
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm with you. I just don't think Oklahoma

575
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 4: City is that appealing of a place to get behind.

576
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 4: I don't think I hear what you're saying team as

577
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 4: a purist, but I'm saying the playing style the old

578
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 4: heads like from Houston. The young kids who like fashion

579
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 4: are gonna like Jalen Green and Dylan Brooks and what

580
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 4: they wear. I agreed, Dylan is a villain. He's not

581
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 4: everybody's a quiet taste, but he will put you in

582
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 4: the national media. No different than Draymond Green, Okay. And

583
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 4: it's I think it's just you have a little bit

584
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 4: of everything. And then Houston has had success this season.

585
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 4: They're the team that everybody looks up and goes hmm okay,

586
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 4: and I've heard it from everybody. I like what you

587
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 4: guys are doing. Man. You guys play hard. You keep

588
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 4: hearing Okay, you may not be there, but you guys

589
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 4: play hard. And there's something about that underdog mentality, and

590
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 4: you know, going and knocking off these old heads, the

591
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 4: Lebrons and and the Curries and the Durance guys. I get.

592
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 4: The whole season have done it.

593
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: I get.

594
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: I think people would love to like if you're a

595
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: young young basketball fan, you're gonna be drawn to Anthony Edwards.

596
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 3: Who wouldn't, right?

597
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 4: Yeah?

598
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: Man, absolutely, you know Jalen Brunson for what he's done

599
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: with the Knicks. I mean I don't know, like, as

600
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: you're sitting there talking about a grind out team, you're

601
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: obviously being you're in awe of what Jalen Brunton has

602
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: done in the clutch with the Knicks. But again, you

603
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: can't cheer for the next because their fans are obnoxious.

604
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: It's absurd, like they're out of the equation. As they said, Minnesota,

605
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 2: for as great as they've been in, for as dire

606
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 2: as the success that they've had, still Ant was number

607
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 2: one overall. Bit Kat when he was there was a

608
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: number one pick, but he was you know, ended up

609
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: being dealt. Just saying, I love the way that Oklahoma City.

610
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: They never never panicked Sam Prest, he never panicked with

611
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: his picks. They really only had two bad years of basketball.

612
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: Then it was the playing and last year the number

613
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: one seed and they get ousted and now there's a

614
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: bit of revenge, there's even that with it. Maybe the

615
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: tom for Houston will come, But just right now, I

616
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: think of the teams that are remaining as Oklahoma cities.

617
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: Let's get Steve de Sager's opinion on that. Plus he's

618
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: gonna give us a score update on what's happening in

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Speaker 2: Game seven Hello, Steve, Happy Saturday.

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00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 4: Hello.

621
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Speaker 6: I agree with Oka see and I think most of

622
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 6: the country doesn't know or care how they got a team.

623
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 6: And also you're kind of starting fresh because comparatively to

624
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 6: the franchise, as you mentioned, this is almost an expansion team.

625
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 6: You kind of are the ground floor here.

626
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 3: And I'd say this because they're the only show in town.

627
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: It's you know, Houston's got the Texans have got the Astros.

628
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: All these other markets have other teams. It's the only

629
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: show in town in Oklahoma City, they need something good at.

630
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 6: Cheerful till Oklahoma Football all starts. You bet halftime at Denver,

631
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 6: the Nuggets just come off a great second quarter. They're

632
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 6: leading the Clippers at the break now fifty eight to

633
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 6: forty seven. Outscored the Clips by sixteen in the second quarter.

634
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 6: Nikola Joki Schuld start at zero of six shooting. He

635
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 6: went three for three in the second quarter. He's up

636
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 6: to six assists in the first half. James Harden of

637
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 6: the Clippers ten assists already, Kawhi Leonard fourteen points, and

638
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 6: Iviza subots Clippers centers had a great series. He has

639
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 6: twelve rebounds in the first half, but a double digit

640
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 6: lead for the home team in Game seven of this

641
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 6: first round NBA Playoff series, Nuggets up fifty eight forty

642
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 6: seven at the break. Golden State plays a Game seven

643
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 6: at Houston Sunday night to end the first round. The

644
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 6: winner then starts a conference semifinal against Minnesota on Tuesday.

645
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 3: By the way, tonight's.

646
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 6: Winner that game in Denver goes to Oklahoma City for

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Speaker 6: a Game one on Monday. In the NHL Playoffs, a

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Speaker 6: Game seven with Colorado at Dallas scoreless with about six

649
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Speaker 6: minutes left in the first period. Right now Sunday night,

650
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Speaker 6: there's a Game seven with Saint Louis at Winnipeg to

651
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Speaker 6: and the first round. Sovereignty won the Kentucky derby beating

652
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Speaker 6: favorite journalism on a muddy track. Scottie Scheffler leads by

653
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Speaker 6: six strokes in Texas. Late in the third round, Live

654
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 6: golf is in South Korea. Brice and Deshambo led by

655
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Speaker 6: four strokes going into the final round. A reminder, NASCAR's

656
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Speaker 6: next three Sunday races will be on FS one, and

657
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 6: IndyCar returns to Fox TV Sunday. There is we assume

658
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Speaker 6: baseball coming from Atlanta on Fox TV tonight and thunderstorms

659
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Speaker 6: are scheduled to continue tonight, so maybe it won't get started.

660
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Speaker 6: But Dodgers at Braves was what most of the country

661
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 6: was due to see. Maybe they'll be playing two tomorrow.

662
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 6: We already know. Mets at Cardinals was rained out. They'll

663
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Speaker 6: play a doubleheader tomorrow. A lot of the country seeing

664
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Speaker 6: Royals at Orioles tonight. After an hour's rain delay, they

665
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Speaker 6: have resumed. It is scoreless in the top of the third.

666
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Speaker 6: Nationals leads seven to three at Cincinnati in the top

667
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Speaker 6: of the sixth, and a great pitching outing at Philadelphia

668
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Speaker 6: for Aaronola six scoreless innings and eight strike ads, and

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Speaker 6: it's now Philly seven to two over on the bottom

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Speaker 6: of the eighth.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve. It is

672
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. He's the ten year vet Ryan Hollins.

673
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer, hanging out with you on this third

674
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Speaker 2: day of May for the best pregame show every weekend.

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678
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680
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Speaker 2: Sunday morning right here on Fox Sports Radio and the

681
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. They'll be breaking down the two NBA playoff

682
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Speaker 2: games tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: At Game one and a Game seven.

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Speaker 2: The Game seven tonight, as you heard say, Denver's got

685
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 2: an edge on the Clippers. Does Nikola Jokic have nothing

686
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: to lose or everything to lose? Depending on the outcome

687
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Speaker 2: of this game, Ryan and I discussed next here on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Dor listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Saturday. He's right, Hollins, the NBA event.

691
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: I'm Dan Beyer. Nuggets have that lead on the Clippers,

692
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 2: fifty eight to forty seven in this Game seven. A

693
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 2: lot of basketball to play. Two teams that finished fifty

694
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Speaker 2: to thirty two, the four and the five seed. No

695
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: surprise that they go seven games. How do you look

696
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 2: at these teams and how we view them, Ryan Hollins,

697
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Speaker 2: Depending on this outcome.

698
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 3: Do we put them in the same the same grouping?

699
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: Like, are we looking at at the loser one way,

700
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,959
Speaker 2: no matter if it's the Clippers or Nuggets, and looking

701
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: at the winner a different way? Or Do the Nuggets

702
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: get a little bit of leeway because they won a

703
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: title a couple of years ago. Do they get a

704
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: leeway or do we hold it against them because of

705
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Speaker 2: what they did to Michael Malone and dismissing him at

706
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Speaker 2: the end of the regular season. When you look at

707
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 2: these two teams, is it is it fair if we

708
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: put them in the same bucket if one a loser

709
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 2: and one's a winner. You know what I'm saying, Like,

710
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: does Nicola Jokic does he have anything to lose in

711
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: this game? Does he have everything to lose depending on

712
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: the outcome of this game? Kawhi Leonard the same thing.

713
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: How do you look at these outcomes of these two

714
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: teams for how we're gonna look at them depending on

715
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 2: the outcome of this game?

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Speaker 4: Oh, Dan, That's an excellent question, and it's it's extremely unanimous.

717
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 4: Niccola Jokic is as certified as it comes. There's no

718
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 4: question to his greatness or what he brings to the table.

719
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 4: You know how good he is, and that's not gonna

720
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 4: be shaken obviously. You know, without Mike Malone, there's gonna

721
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 4: be questions there, and I think the organization will be

722
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 4: questioned a lot more than the players and saying, hey,

723
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 4: you know, let's say this game gets tight, and it's

724
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 4: gonna be tight, and there is a turnover on the inbounds,

725
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 4: there's something, you know, something ends up happening. They're gonna

726
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 4: look and say, well, you should have got rid of

727
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 4: Mike Malone. That's why you kept Mike Malone. And that's

728
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 4: gonna be something from Denver side that will be thrown out.

729
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 4: But who has everything to lose right now? It's the

730
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Speaker 4: Los Angeles Clippers. You know. Now, granted they move on

731
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Speaker 4: from Paul George and you know they make those moves,

732
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 4: but I think all of the pressure at the end

733
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Speaker 4: of the day is definitely on the Clippers, and Kawhi

734
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 4: Leonards is coming to LA and not being healthy and everything,

735
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Speaker 4: and they've seem to turn the corner and make no mistake,

736
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Speaker 4: this is and I've said this, Dan, we talked about this.

737
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Speaker 4: This is as tough a series as you can get.

738
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Speaker 4: And I think these two teams are for real and

739
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 4: you know, whoever wins this has a real shot of

740
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 4: winning the NBA Championship, you know, at the end of

741
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 4: the day, because I think these two teams are that

742
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 4: talented and Kawhi Leonard brings an element to the Clippers

743
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 4: that you're going like, WHOA, we didn't see this coming.

744
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 4: So I think the Clippers at the end of the day,

745
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 4: they have everything to lose. I think with the firing

746
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 4: of Mike Malone, you're going to look at the front

747
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 4: office if they lose. But I think you can't challenge

748
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 4: what's been going on ultimately Denver.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm right there with you. I think that,

750
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: and I've got their reviews on Denver than you do.

751
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: But ultimately I think that the title helps them, and

752
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 2: the move to fire Malone ultimately goes on the GM

753
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: and it's actually something we're going to be talking about

754
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: in about thirty minutes or so, front office and players

755
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: in the whole deal. But I just feel that the

756
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 2: Clippers don't get this done, and even if they would

757
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: win this game, maybe they don't beat Oklahoma City in

758
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: the next series. It's what do you do with this

759
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 2: Clippers curse? Because guess what, Kawi's made it through. Kawhi's healthy.

760
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 2: Norman Powell should have been an All Star this year.

761
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: James Harden was magnificent for this team in Kawai's absence,

762
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: when he wasn't around the first part of the year

763
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: and was able to carry it. Zubos has seemingly come

764
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Speaker 2: into his own and I think it's going to be

765
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Speaker 2: looked at as such a missed opportunity and the Clippers

766
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: clippering again, fair or unfair. I just feel that I

767
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 2: don't think Nikola yokicchi anything to lose. I think that

768
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: the Clippers have everything to lose in this scenario. Yeah,

769
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Speaker 2: even though Kawhi having the title.

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Speaker 4: No, you're right, and man it is man, they are

771
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 4: having a heck of a year. They are. It is

772
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 4: like everything is coming together for the Clippers. So no, Dan,

773
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 4: I completely agree.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports.

775
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 2: Everybody's getting in on the act in Denver. You heard

776
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 2: Steve de Seger say it all Nuggets right now in

777
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: the third quarter of that game seven. You'd think Ryan

778
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: Holland said it would be the Nicola Jokic show. He's

779
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 2: still doing his thing. Eight boards, eight assists, It's got

780
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Speaker 2: eleven points, Aaron Gordon's got fourteen, Christian Brown's got fourteen,

781
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook's off the bench.

782
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Speaker 3: He's got ten.

783
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: Complete effort from the Denver Nuggets, and I don't know

784
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: if it's a meltdown, I don't want to say a

785
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 2: complete meltdown from the Clippers. It's been an entertaining series.

786
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: They blew a fifteen point lead in Game one, obviously,

787
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 2: came all the way back to only lose on that

788
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 2: heartbreaker of I guess we could call it an alleyut now,

789
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: even though it was a yogad shot at the end

790
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: of Game four, But wow, what a tough way to

791
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: go out. I did not see Game seven. Right now, now,

792
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 2: there's still a quarter and a half plus to go,

793
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: but Denver with a twenty three point lead.

794
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 3: I did not see this happening in game seven.

795
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Speaker 4: Well, keep in mind, thoughing that same game, wasn't there

796
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 4: a roaring comeback from the Clippers to yeah and make

797
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 4: it that close? So yes, there's probably some more fireworks left.

798
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 3: Fair enough, fair point, don't want to count them out.

799
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Speaker 2: And yes, if we were going to say that, maybe

800
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Speaker 2: maybe I should have expected is considered. Denver kind of

801
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 2: had this edge in game four, but Denver getting When

802
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: Denver is winning, it's when everybody is able to contribute.

803
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: It almost feels like you just kind of got.

804
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: If you want to beat Denver, maybe have Jokic, just

805
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 2: get his and then worry about everybody else.

806
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 3: It's a strategy that's been thrown out there in the NBA.

807
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 2: But when everybody is feeding, and it's why Nicolaijokich was

808
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 2: second of the NBA and assists this past season, the

809
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: Nuggets can be a pretty good team.

810
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right to that. There's a little bit of truth.

811
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Speaker 4: And when you play against players in the style and

812
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 4: Nicola Jokichen, Lebron, James and Is at his best, and

813
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 4: James Harden and those guys, you truly do pick your

814
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 4: poison and you say, maybe he gets forty, but he's

815
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 4: not gonna get fifteen assist But when he gets forty

816
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 4: with the fifteen assists, you really don't have a shot.

817
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 4: So you will go in and you know, again pick

818
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 4: your poison or try to find habits of guys. And sometimes,

819
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 4: like you know, playing against Kobe Bryant, one thing that

820
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 4: Kobe would do a little later in his career, he

821
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 4: would come out in the first half, the first quarter and

822
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 4: he just passed the basketball and he wouldn't look to shoot,

823
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 4: and you know, you kind of had to adjust and go, Okay,

824
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 4: what's what's going on here? And then in the second

825
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 4: half he get extremely aggressive. So you know, you really

826
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 4: do watch tendencies and you try to kind of catch

827
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 4: on to the habits of what they're doing. And with

828
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 4: those star guys, the star players, they can manipulate the

829
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 4: game different than other players can, so you do try

830
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 4: to gain plan for stuff like that.

831
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I feel Lebron would do that at times in

832
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: his career as well, like of trying to trying to

833
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: get others involved.

834
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 3: Maybe not take on that scoring load.

835
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: And you have to like if you're if you're gonna

836
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: you're gonna demand the ball as much as they do.

837
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: If you don't spread the ball around early, if you

838
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: need guys late, they're not gonna be there because they're

839
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: not going to be engaged or not going to be

840
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: a part of the flow. But right now it's all

841
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 2: Nuggets now a twenty five point lead with eight minutes

842
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: to go in the third quarter. This is crazy, but

843
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make I'm gonna make another point.

844
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 3: You know how. I know gambling is.

845
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 2: Prevalent in the United States, and why more more and

846
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: more people are, you know, getting opportunities to gamble and

847
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: bet on sports. The delay from what I have on

848
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,919
Speaker 2: my screen to the update that we get from say

849
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: ESPN or CBS Sports or NBA dot com. Ryan Hollins,

850
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: it's a full minute. It's a full minute behind, And

851
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: I think it has everything to do with gambling because

852
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 2: of now people being able to bet in a lot

853
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 2: of states, being able to live bet if something would happen,

854
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: or something would happen in an injury time, if you're

855
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: watching at home and you're trying to get that line

856
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: in quickly, like the delay is crazy. Right now, my

857
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 2: screen says six twenty five left in the third, seventy

858
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 2: seven to fifty two Nuggets over the Clippers. Now I

859
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: do have a satellite provider. I'm not on cable, but

860
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: right now it says seven ten to go seventy five

861
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: to fifty two. So it's forty to fifty seconds behind

862
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: what is actually happening in the game. That is that's

863
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: that's a way that you know that gambling is taken

864
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 2: over the United States. A bigger delay between what actually

865
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: is happening at the arenas in the stadiums than what

866
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 2: is happening on your computer screen. He is Ryan Hollins.

867
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 2: Hit him up at the Ryan Hollins, you can find

868
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: me at Dan Byer on Fox. I did mention Lebron,

869
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 2: is there any reason to think that Lebron.

870
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 3: Would call it quits after this season?

871
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 4: Do you think you're kidding me? No, you finally got

872
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 4: Bronni there, it's an NBA with them. There's no way

873
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 4: he's calling it quits after the season. I'm gonna tell

874
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 4: you that much right now. No, we're not even gonna

875
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 4: fancy that idea. And you know we've seen this from Lebron.

876
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 4: It's just it's it's frustration. I think, what was it

877
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 4: like two or three years ago? You know, we were

878
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 4: saying and asking kind of the same thing. So no,

879
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 4: absolutely not, he's not He's not calling anything player.

880
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 2: Player option for next year. I'm not gonna go down

881
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: my why I think Lebron James should retire. Brow don't worry.

882
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: We're not going to do that today. We did that

883
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: last year. I still feel the same way.

884
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 3: Do you remember how mad.

885
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 7: And I'm suddenly dude, I was like, and we had

886
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 7: Antonio Daniels on and then he got just as mad

887
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 7: that I would bring up the idea that I think

888
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 7: Lebron should retire.

889
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: And for those that are.

890
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: Wondering, I just I just said that Lebron takes up

891
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: so much room in the NBA that it is stunting

892
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: the growth of other stars. And I still feel that way,

893
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: like I still feel that I didn't understand what I

894
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: would But but you say, like now that Bronny James

895
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: is in the NBA, I would look at it as

896
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: that's what Lebron wanted to accomplish, Like if there was

897
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: anything for him yet to accomplish in his career, he's,

898
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: you know, the all time scoring leader. Now he leads

899
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 2: in so many categories, he's got the titles. He then

900
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: now is able to play with his son that now

901
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: you're saying, Okay, what is there what is there still

902
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: to do and what is there left to play for?

903
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 3: And that's the reason why I do think that it

904
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 3: is a question.

905
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 2: The Lakers will obviously want him back and have him back,

906
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: but there is also going to be a point too

907
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: where there's going to have to be some shift in something.

908
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 2: But it is interesting on how the conversation always pops

909
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: up at the end of a season, and when you

910
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 2: have a season where it just looked like the Lakers

911
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 2: were completely gassed in their series with Minnesota, makes you wonder,

912
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 2: all right, how much do they have left in the tank,

913
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: how much does he have left in the tank, and

914
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: in that aspect, and are the Lakers that close to

915
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 2: winning a championship with a move here or there? So

916
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 2: I think all of those questions are legitimate, and Lebron

917
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: coming back would make you think that, Okay, the Lakers

918
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: are going to try to be able to make some moves,

919
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 2: and Lebron's going to be in the great shape that

920
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 2: he's in despite being tired after the exhausting efforts in.

921
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 3: Games four and five.

922
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 2: But I think that those are all legitimate reasons why

923
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 2: this question ends up popping up.

924
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 4: No, I mean, he's forty, for God's sake, there's no

925
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 4: question of course they're gonna pop up. But he's playing

926
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 4: at a high level. He's doing something we hadn't seen.

927
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 4: You know, his son is on the team. I wouldn't

928
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 4: be surprised if he wants Bryce, wants to play with

929
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 4: Bryce and really just just make it a record that

930
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 4: can't be touched or something that we really really have

931
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 4: never seen. So for Lebron, I don't think there's the

932
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 4: signs are slowing down. And you know, sometimes as ball players,

933
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 4: we get to the point where you go, I just

934
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 4: ain't got it no more. It's just not there, and

935
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 4: we haven't seen that from Lebron. So that's where when

936
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 4: you talk about him hanging it up, that's hard to

937
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 4: you know, really dive into that conversation because he's still

938
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 4: playing at a high level, and you know, I think

939
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 4: he's gonna have to get to the point where he's

940
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 4: gonna say, hey, I want more help, and that means

941
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 4: you may have to take less money. That means that

942
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 4: a number of things are gonna have to come out

943
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 4: and change if you if you do want help, you know,

944
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 4: you do want to have a chance to win a

945
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 4: world championship, and obviously Luca is a big step. But

946
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 4: for the Los Angeles Lakers and you clearly you see

947
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 4: you Rob Pelinka and JJ Meeton already with Luca, so

948
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 4: you know, they're very serious about winning. And I think

949
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 4: that they're they're trying to get a plan together in

950
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 4: place for Luca where they say, hey, we believe in you,

951
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 4: but these things got to change.

952
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: How much hypothetically if Lebron goes, you know what, I'm

953
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: gonna just play for I'm gonna opt out of this

954
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 2: contract fifty two million dollars and I'm gonna play for

955
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play for the minimum so you can get

956
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: the pieces that you need and build around me and

957
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: do what you need to do.

958
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 3: How much do you think that would change a.

959
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 2: Narrative around Lebron or I should say, maybe give him

960
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 2: another feather in his cap. I'm not he's not going

961
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 2: to do that, but at this point of his career,

962
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: from everything that has gone on at this point, I

963
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: don't want to say, what's another fifty million to somebody,

964
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 2: because that's a different conversation.

965
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 3: But if he was to take a pay cut.

966
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 2: And maybe just bringing up the minimum is silly to

967
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: bring up. But I think that if he did take

968
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 2: a pay cut, it would be quite the statement and

969
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: oh be one that would I think it would resonate

970
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: at least throughout the NBA when we were talking about

971
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: I mean, Michael Jordan was making absurd amounts.

972
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 3: Somebody.

973
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: He was making thirty million dollars in season in the

974
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 2: mid nineteen nineties, you know, at that point, and so

975
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 2: he's making an absurd amount of money. For the Jordan

976
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 2: versus Lebron comparisons, there'd be one where Lebron ends up

977
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: you know, taking less at this point, and.

978
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 3: He's obviously going to be taking should be.

979
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 2: Taking on less in his workload seeing how they puttered

980
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 2: out this season. I think it could change the narrative.

981
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 2: I completely agree with you that I think he's coming back,

982
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 2: and there's no reason that he wouldn't come back. But

983
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 2: I think if you just come back in the normal fashion,

984
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 2: maybe you're gonna get the same old, same old. Do

985
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 2: it in a different way. A lot of you get

986
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 2: those pieces, Dan, You're not far fetched.

987
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 4: Because the Lakers need help inside, they need a center,

988
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 4: and that was the urgency to kind of make a

989
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 4: move for Mark Williams and it didn't end up working out.

990
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 4: And then inside Rudy Gobert goes off and drops a

991
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 4: thirty ball. So there's more focus there. But I think

992
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 4: everybody in the basketball world would say, in sports world

993
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 4: would say, oh, Lebron James did serious about winning right now? Yeah,

994
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 4: there's no question. So that absolutely would be a move

995
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 4: Dan that would, you know, kind of draw the eyes

996
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 4: and ears of the community and say, no, he's serious

997
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 4: about this. And here's the tough part, right Dan, when

998
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 4: you take less money, you know what that means, You

999
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 4: become expendable, you become you don't have the same power

1000
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 4: that you once had. So if he did that, that

1001
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 4: would be the challenge there. But when I pay you,

1002
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 4: I gotta play you. I gotta listen to you. You know,

1003
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 4: you're pretty much my headache at the end of the day,

1004
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 4: you know, win loser draws. So that's the appeal for

1005
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 4: Lebron to never do that. Hey, when I want to

1006
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 4: make changes in the front office, or I want to

1007
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 4: challenge something, I'm not okay with something, you got to

1008
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 4: listen to me. Because I got that I have the value.

1009
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 2: And I think that is his name is worth of

1010
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: fifty two million dollars. I think his numbers that you

1011
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 2: put up offensively probably worth the fifty two million dollars

1012
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 2: as well defensively. How much you want in playing in

1013
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 2: the regular season, those are other topics to discuss.

1014
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 3: That I don't.

1015
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 2: Know if they actually reflect those numbers, but the value

1016
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 2: would be there for the Lakers. But I think to

1017
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: your point of if you do take less, you also

1018
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: are you know, yielding some of that powers, you know,

1019
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 2: power to the front office. They got to figure out

1020
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 2: what to do with Lucas contract. Lebron has said, yeah,

1021
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: we want Luca back, implying that Lebron would be back

1022
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 2: as well, but that Lebron would wouldn't be interfering in

1023
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 2: any togations or contract talks there, which I just think

1024
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 2: that's peer talking about peer player talking about player getting

1025
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: their contract and not trying to get inside their wallet.

1026
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: That's how I view that. He is Ryan Hollins. I'm

1027
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 2: Dan Byer. It is a Fox Sports Saturday. Hollins and

1028
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 2: I teaming up on a weekend for the first time

1029
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 2: in a long time. Find Ryan on ex at the

1030
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins you can find me at Dan Byer on Fox.

1031
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: Speaking of Lebron James Clutch Sports, Rich Paul said something

1032
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: very very interesting. When it comes down to the Luka,

1033
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: Doncic Anthony Davis trade, Ryan and I will discuss and

1034
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 2: who the ultimate targets of that trade should be. That's

1035
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 2: next here on Fox Sports Saturday. Fox Sports Saturday. I'm

1036
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,479
Speaker 2: Dan Byer. He's Ryan Hollins, the ten year NBA VET

1037
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: the Denver Nuggets having a heck of a Saturday night

1038
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 2: leading the Clippers as they head to nearing the end

1039
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: of the third quarter. It's a ninety three sixty six

1040
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 2: ball game, right now in favor of the Nuggets. I

1041
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 2: know Denver made that comeback, Eric, the Clippers made that

1042
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: comeback in Game four, and Denver may not be a

1043
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: sure thing in Game seven's at home with leads, but

1044
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: this one feels like it's over fine. Ryan again on

1045
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 2: X at the Ryan Hollins. You can find me at

1046
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 2: Dan Byer on Fox. Be sure to check out the

1047
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. There's a ton of great

1048
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 2: videos for many of our Fox Sports Radio shows.

1049
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 3: Just search Fox Sports.

1050
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 2: Radio on YouTube and you'll see a whole bunch of

1051
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,439
Speaker 2: video highlights from our shows. And be sure to subscribe

1052
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1053
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: Radio videos on YouTube. Rich Paul was on Chris Haynes's podcast,

1054
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 2: Haynes Briefs, which I think is a great play on

1055
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 2: a great product, I'm sure, but Rich Paul had a

1056
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 2: good forty five minute conversation and they're talking all things basketball,

1057
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 2: and I was able to kind of scrub through the

1058
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 2: interview and it really was interesting just to hear Rich

1059
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 2: Paul talk about the business and he's a guy that

1060
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 2: just loves basketball. But what Chris Hanes did was ask

1061
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: him a variety of questions throughout the interview, and obviously

1062
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 2: the topic of the Luga Doncic Anthony Davis trade was

1063
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 2: brought up, and again not talking about the trade, but

1064
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 2: maybe how the players involved in the trade end up

1065
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 2: being collateral damage. Here is a bit from Rich Paul

1066
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: talking to Chris Haynes at Chris Hanes Haines Briefs podcast.

1067
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 8: I know ad if he doesn't showcase himself to be

1068
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 8: someone who was worthy of being included in his trade. Fore, Luca, like,

1069
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 8: can you just speak to that dynamic, like this thing

1070
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 8: that we're going to always like look at that trade

1071
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 8: and view it from a successful lands or not.

1072
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 3: It's so misleading and keep the player the player. That's

1073
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 3: not on the players.

1074
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 9: And as a matter of fact, you know, you can

1075
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 9: take it a step further, you know. And again I

1076
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 9: won't get into this goat debate or anything like that,

1077
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 9: but in order to be successful as an athlete, oftentimes

1078
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 9: we lean on the talent, right But oh man, you know,

1079
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 9: I think Perk mentioned this the other day. I was

1080
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 9: screaming crazy about something one time during the finals, and

1081
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 9: you know, I don't talk that games or anything, and

1082
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 9: I was I wasn't verbally screaming really, I was talking

1083
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 9: with my eyes because you know, I don't really talk

1084
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 9: at games like that. And afterwards the conversation we had was,

1085
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 9: you know, it was educational for me in terms of

1086
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 9: it ain't as simple and easy as you think.

1087
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 3: Right.

1088
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 9: But I say all that to say, it's not on

1089
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:51,919
Speaker 9: the players.

1090
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 3: Those guys can go out.

1091
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 9: And score thirty and forty and fifty, they can do

1092
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 9: all that, but it's going to it's the race of

1093
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 9: the front offices, right, Who's going to make the proper

1094
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 9: moves to put the proper talent around for each one

1095
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 9: of those guys to be successful?

1096
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 3: All right?

1097
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 2: So those are rich Paul's comments and really and who

1098
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 2: the pressure is on as a former player, as a

1099
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 2: now member of the media in this game, Ryan Hollins,

1100
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 2: how do you take Rich Paul's comments on who the

1101
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: pressure is on?

1102
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 3: Stumming from the Luca ad deal.

1103
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 4: For one man? This is stick I know rich I

1104
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 4: love rich Guy, I love for rich Man. I'm a

1105
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 4: big fan of everything he's doing. And it's just sticky

1106
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 4: territory because he does represent Anthony Davis and he does

1107
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 4: represent Lebron James, and obviously the history's there with Lebron

1108
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 4: James and Anthony Davis gets moved and he was shocked.

1109
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 4: And the challenge is say is how much did Lebron know?

1110
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 4: And if Lebron know, you got his own rich new

1111
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 4: and ultimately, at the end of the day, who ends

1112
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 4: up in a better place. So it's tough to kind

1113
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 4: of take whatever angle or whatever is being said to

1114
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 4: the public, because you know, there's a lot more that

1115
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 4: goes on behind the scenes with Luca coming to la

1116
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 4: essentially and then Ad going to Dallas, and Ad essentially

1117
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 4: could win win another championship in Dallas, he could be

1118
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 4: in a better place. Let me tell you something. We

1119
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 4: played against the Mavericks and in that first half where

1120
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 4: Ad first got there, he was absolutely electric. They were tough.

1121
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 4: I mean our guys like they couldn't even score the basketball,

1122
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 4: that's how good they were defensively. And then you had

1123
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 4: Kyrie and you had Clay like they just they were.

1124
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 4: They look like a team that could absolutely compete prior

1125
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 4: to injury. Unfortunately didn't last a half. And Anthony Davis,

1126
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 4: you know, called pools, an abdomen or whatever you know,

1127
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 4: ends up happenings. But I bring that up to say

1128
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 4: that it's hard for me to have a take on

1129
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 4: with Richard saying are not saying because you know, he's

1130
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 4: got a lot of moving pieces going on behind the scenes,

1131
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 4: and you may not fully understand what's going on. Because

1132
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 4: we can see by the eye it looks like Anthony

1133
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 4: Davis should feel very misled, you know, by things that

1134
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 4: are going on, or you'd naturally question the relationship that

1135
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 4: he has with rich Paul or the relationship that he

1136
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 4: has with Lebron James, you know, and ultimately it seems

1137
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 4: like those guys are fine, but there's just there's just

1138
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 4: something fishy going on there now. Ultimately, I don't know

1139
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 4: what it is or is it.

1140
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,919
Speaker 2: I've I think that rich Paul is correct. I think

1141
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: he's actually one hundred percent spot on correct. I just

1142
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 2: don't think that's the reality that we live in. And

1143
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 2: the reason I say that is I actually look at

1144
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 2: that in a lot of in our business of doing

1145
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 2: radio shows, in other businesses as well, may be a

1146
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 2: show that are listening people are you know, are listening

1147
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 2: to the show like I don't like that show.

1148
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 3: I turn that show off from that time.

1149
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,439
Speaker 2: Well, whoever's hosting that show is obviously doing the show

1150
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 2: that they want to do and trying to do it

1151
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 2: to the best of their abilities ninety nine percent of

1152
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: the time.

1153
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 3: That other one percent you don't have to worry about it,

1154
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 3: I have to deal with.

1155
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 2: But the host is usually doing their work, so and

1156
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 2: in a way, it's okay that person's doing their best,

1157
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 2: just like Anthony Davis is doing his best, and just

1158
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: like Luka Doncic is trying to do his best. But

1159
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 2: I think to what you're saying is you know a

1160
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 2: lot more. They know a lot more of the inside

1161
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 2: information of what's going on. So maybe putting a person

1162
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 2: in that spot when there's not public knowledge of what

1163
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 2: actually is going on, I may say, well, geez, Anthony Davis,

1164
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 2: why would you why would you waste you know, a

1165
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 2: why would you do that deal if you're Dallas because

1166
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis is older and injured, not knowing something that

1167
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 2: may be going on behind the scenes with Luka Dacic,

1168
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 2: or not knowing what's going on behind the ends of

1169
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 2: the Lakers that make them trade Anthony Davis. But I

1170
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: think ultimately, when you do the deal, and this has

1171
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 2: been throughout time in sports, when players are traded for

1172
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 2: each other, they're ultimately compared to each other. So while

1173
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 2: I think Denny's right, and you may say, hey, that

1174
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 2: Radio Boston put that host in that spot, or that

1175
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 2: host is better in morning drive than they are in

1176
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 2: the afternoon, or that DJ is better on a hip

1177
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 2: hop station than they are on a top forty station.

1178
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 2: Those are all decisions that are made, you know, ultimately

1179
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 2: by bosses and say our our medium. But ultimately you're

1180
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 2: the one who's driving home from work listening to that

1181
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 2: radio station and listening to that person. So that person

1182
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 2: does have to perform in those spots in those are

1183
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 2: the names on It's the It's it's the in the window.

1184
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 2: For as much as we know Nico Harrison and Rob Polenka,

1185
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 2: and I think Nico's name is a lot more well

1186
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 2: known because of this deal, Ultimately it comes down to

1187
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 2: the players. And I know Rich Paul says that that's

1188
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 2: not fair, but look at this past week. People are

1189
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 2: now trying to say, maybe Nico Harrison didn't lose that trade.

1190
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 2: Look at what happened with the Lakers bobbing out, and

1191
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 2: by and large, Luca has been an issue on defense

1192
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 2: that we've known. Offensively, I think that he carried his

1193
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 2: weight in that series with Minnesota. So none of that changed,

1194
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 2: But ultimately it is on the players. Rich Paul is right,

1195
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 2: it's just not the world that we live in. I

1196
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 2: know that's a bit complicated and not trying to take

1197
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: the easy way out on that, But since since I

1198
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 2: followed sports for forty years, people are always comparing trades.

1199
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 2: We're still comparing the Vikings and Cowboys from the Herschel

1200
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 2: Walker trade. Now I'm joking, you know I'm joking, but

1201
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 2: like saying, look what it did for the Cowboys. Look,

1202
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 2: Minnesota still doesn't want the super Bowl at that point.

1203
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 2: Like those that's the reality that we live in. So

1204
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 2: I get what Rich Paul is saying, but I just

1205
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 2: don't think that's the reality. And unfortunately, in this situation,

1206
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 2: for the player that he represents, Anthony Davis and obviously

1207
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 2: Luka Dancc, those two players are the ones who are

1208
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 2: going to have to live up to the billing to

1209
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 2: make that trade work for whatever side you're on.

1210
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 4: Now, you're right about that, and there's a lot of

1211
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 4: motions involved, and it's you know, you get the public perspective,

1212
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 4: but I think what people are now seeing too also

1213
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 4: is like, hey, let's call for what it is Anthony

1214
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 4: Davis was sorely missed against Minnesota, and you're seeing his value,

1215
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 4: you know, because you can'ried me. You can play seemingly

1216
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 4: small or play seemingly big with Anthony Davis and you

1217
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 4: don't miss anything inside, you know where they say, Okay,

1218
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 4: we could have played one of our big guys, but

1219
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 4: we might have lost some scoring. You know, we might

1220
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 4: have been hurt there or hey, you know, when you

1221
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 4: have a big guy or a shot blocker, it makes

1222
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 4: Luca more comfortable, it makes Lebron more comfortable. Where those

1223
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 4: guys had to chase and rebound and they got war out.

1224
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 3: And if I was.

1225
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 4: Minnesota, look, we talked about this, this is the game plan.

1226
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 4: Everybody was jumping and say the Lakers or so this

1227
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 4: so that I said, when you get to the playoffs,

1228
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 4: that will be exposed. I said, in the regular season,

1229
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 4: you can't really attack Luca and Lebron. You're not getting

1230
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 4: that detail oriented. But when you get to the playoffs

1231
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 4: and you got to see me for multiple games, they're

1232
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 4: gonna run Luca raggedy. And that's what ended up happening.

1233
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 4: You were gonna run Lebron. James got hurt man, they

1234
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 4: ran him he was physically fatigued and out of it,

1235
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,919
Speaker 4: and that's what you saw. At the end of the day.

1236
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 2: I thought that both Dallas and the Lakers would be

1237
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 2: better off this season if the trade wasn't made.

1238
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 3: I felt that Dallas would have been in a better spot.

1239
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 2: Obviously they wouldn't have had Davis wouldn't have been out

1240
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 2: for that period of time. But you're even talking about

1241
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 2: in this series, what would have happened if the Lakers,

1242
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 2: you know, held on to Anthony Davis and maybe he

1243
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 2: misses a stretch of the season so their record is different.

1244
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 2: But ultimately I think this season of both teams would

1245
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 2: have fared better if they kept their players. I don't

1246
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 2: think that this deal for the Lakers was done for

1247
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 2: this season, and if it was, they Rob Helenka can't

1248
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 2: even fully be blamed for it, considering the Mark Williams

1249
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 2: trade ended up falling through. Now, who knows how much

1250
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 2: Mark Williams would have played, but at least that was

1251
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 2: part of their plan, like they had, let's do this deal,

1252
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 2: we'll do that deal. We'll add some size here. Now

1253
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 2: it'll be up to him in the offseason to try

1254
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 2: to figure out how to get it done. But this season,

1255
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 2: by and large, I just don't know how you can

1256
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 2: can can say that Dallas would have been worse if

1257
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 2: Luca would have stayed in the same thing with La

1258
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 2: at least that in that Minnesota series.

1259
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 4: Sorry, Lego had two big questions that they got to

1260
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 4: answer right now in two directions. One or we're gonna

1261
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 4: force Luca to get in shape, or we're gonna ask

1262
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 4: him to be a better defender, a better score. He

1263
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 4: asked his stamma to be better or else. Or you're

1264
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 4: gonna say he is who he is and we just

1265
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 4: got to put a bunch of defenders around him. You

1266
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 4: gotta figure that out. And then you got to understand,

1267
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 4: you know not Lebron's definitely better condition, but with his age,

1268
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 4: we got two guys we don't want to be exerting

1269
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 4: a bunch of energy with. And here's the thing Ema

1270
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 4: Udoka had similar in Houston. Alprin Shangoon was not the

1271
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 4: best defender, but what he did for alp to be

1272
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 4: an All Star said, You're gonna have to be better

1273
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 4: on the defensive of the floor. You're gonna have to

1274
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 4: give effort, You're gonna have to get in a stance

1275
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to communicate, You're gonna have to do

1276
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 4: these things so much so where he's become night and

1277
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 4: day such a better defender in his first time All

1278
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 4: Star and you can see the success of the ball club. Now,

1279
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 4: the question is, is Luca young enough and mold enough,

1280
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 4: mouldable enough to where you can go in and ask

1281
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 4: that of him. Where are you? Maybe it's a little

1282
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 4: bit in between. Maybe you get something comparable to Anthony

1283
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 4: Davis that can score and finish the ball inside and

1284
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 4: is good enough on the defensive end. You know, a

1285
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 4: lot of people look at Miles Turner was one of

1286
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 4: those guys. I don't think he's going to be tradable

1287
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 4: or movable, but those guys come with a lot of value.

1288
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 2: On the Maverick side of things. It obviously didn't work out.

1289
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 2: But this is why don't give Nico the benefit of

1290
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 2: the doubt, is because we've known that. I feel awful

1291
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 2: for Kyrie, but Kyrie is dealt with injuries throughout his

1292
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 2: entire career.

1293
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 3: This is from a short stint at Duke.

1294
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 2: Throughout the NBA, Kyrie would be a player that you

1295
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 2: would say is injury prone, and I would say Klay Thompson,

1296
01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 2: while not injury prone, went through significant injuries that robbed

1297
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 2: them of two seasons of basketball basically. And so like

1298
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 2: when you're talking about like the key piece is there

1299
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 2: to add Anthony Davis, who is known as being.

1300
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 3: Oft injured that you know, that's that's the risk that

1301
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 3: you run.

1302
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 2: Now at Dallas, you've got Kyrie coming off of his

1303
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 2: knee injury. I just I don't I don't know if

1304
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 2: it's ever going to work out how Nico Harrison thought

1305
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 2: it was going to work out. And people may say

1306
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 2: this week that he's justified in trading Luca, But Luca

1307
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 2: can lose twenty pounds, Luca can lose thirty pounds and

1308
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 2: get into the shape or add muscle and do what

1309
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 2: he needs to do. Luca can't come back to Dallas,

1310
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 2: you know. And that's and and maybe he felt in

1311
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 2: tow him. Maybe he felt last year as the NBA

1312
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,759
Speaker 2: Finals were enough, But now there's going to be pressure

1313
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 2: on him and he's going to be in a Lakers uniform. Yeah,

1314
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 2: I think that you you do have to severe, you

1315
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 2: do have to put a severe effort to get back

1316
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 2: into shape.

1317
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards has done that.

1318
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 2: I writped Anthony Edwards for him joking about his diet

1319
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,080
Speaker 2: and how you would eat at Popeyes and eat the

1320
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 2: you know, cheetoh hot fries, And it was a joke

1321
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 2: until Luca and the Mavericks were cooking him in the

1322
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 2: fourth quarter of the Western Finals last year, he was gassed,

1323
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 2: came back in better shaped. This year, we'll see if

1324
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 2: it pays off, if Minnesota makes a better run. But

1325
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards at least, you know, took that criticism and

1326
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 2: put it towards towards his game. Now it's gonna be

1327
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 2: up to Luca to do the same. All right, He's

1328
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins, I'm Dan Beyer. Let's go to the news desk.

1329
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,759
Speaker 2: Steve's gonna give us an update. Is it any better,

1330
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 2: I guess? Is it any better for the Clippers or

1331
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 2: is it just gotten worse in Denver?

1332
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 6: Well, it's better for the Clippers because we're close to

1333
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 6: being put out of there, almost gone, yeah, exactly, fair enough,

1334
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 6: so fair enough minutes to go. Denver's up one oh

1335
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,799
Speaker 6: three seventy six on the Clippers. This is fourth quarter

1336
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 6: action of a Game seven in the NBA Playoffs, first round.

1337
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 6: Now gets outscored him by sixteen in the second period,

1338
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 6: had a seventeen oh run during the third quarter. All

1339
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,879
Speaker 6: the starters in double figure scoring for Denver. Nicolea jokicch

1340
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 6: after a slow start fourteen points, eight rebounds, eight assists

1341
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 6: right now, thirteen assists for James Harden of the Clippers,

1342
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 6: most of that in the first half. Tonight's winner goes

1343
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 6: to Oklahoma City for a Game one on Monday. Golden

1344
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 6: State plays a Game seven at Houston Sunday night and

1345
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 6: the first round that winter, and then starts a conference

1346
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 6: semifinal against Minnesota on Tuesday. Cleveland's Darius Garland is questionable

1347
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 6: for Sunday's game with the Sprain tow he missed the

1348
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 6: cavs last two contest. Cleveland opens the second round hosting Indiana.

1349
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 6: Boston will host New York on Tuesday to begin a

1350
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,560
Speaker 6: second rounder to the NHL Playoffs. A Game seven Tonight's

1351
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 6: at Dallas, and it's the Avalanche in the lead, one

1352
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 6: nothing over the Stars late in the second period. Sunday night,

1353
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 6: there's a Game seven with Saint Louis at Winnipeg to

1354
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 6: end the first round. NHL's conference semi start Monday with

1355
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:50,839
Speaker 6: Florida at Toronto. Sovereignty won the Kentucky Derby. Scottie Scheffler

1356
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 6: leads by eight strokes. In Texas number one ranked arena,

1357
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 6: Sablenca won Tennis's Madrid Open to Major League Baseball. Most

1358
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 6: of the country was due to see on Fox TV

1359
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 6: tonight Dodgers at Braves. Thunderstorms throughout the Atlanta area tonight.

1360
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 6: They are actually intending to start this game in just

1361
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 6: over a half an hour, but Fox has long ago

1362
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 6: gone to the Royals at Orioles game, which itself had

1363
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 6: an hour rain delay early. They're now in the bottom

1364
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 6: of the sixth that Baltimore Royal shutting out the O's

1365
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 6: two to nothing. Mariner's bottom of the ninth lead two

1366
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 6: to one at Texas. Top of the ninth, Nationals lead

1367
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 6: ten to five at Cincinnati. The late game just underway

1368
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 6: Tigers at Angels. Angels have lost seven in a row.

1369
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 6: Cubs won six to two. The final at Milwaukee. Mets

1370
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 6: at Saint Louis rained out. They'll play a doubleheader tomorrow

1371
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 6: at Miami. On a grand slam bottom of the ninth,

1372
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 6: the Marlins beat the A's nine to six. Cleveland got

1373
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 6: a grand slam top of the ninth to win five

1374
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 6: to three at Toronto. San Diego won two to one

1375
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:51,600
Speaker 6: at Pittsburgh, got a run on the top of the

1376
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 6: ninth on a wild pitch. The Padres were three for

1377
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 6: twenty nine at the plate and still won the game.

1378
01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:00,040
Speaker 2: Back to you, So that Dodgers Braves game is that

1379
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 2: they're going to try to still start.

1380
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 6: It, yeah, after a three hour rain delay at the start,

1381
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 6: so they play tomorrow night.

1382
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it gives them a little leeway.

1383
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 2: Like if they were playing at one o'clock Eastern time tomorrow,

1384
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 2: it'd be a tough ask to try to play a

1385
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 2: game tonight and then come back the next day. So

1386
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 2: that likely gives them a little leeway. Plus the scheduling

1387
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 2: because now with the even schedule, like you have to

1388
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 2: get these games in or try to figure out a

1389
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 2: way to play a doubleheader.

1390
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,440
Speaker 3: I guess they just didn't want to do that for tomorrow.

1391
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 6: Because everybody plays everybody in Major League Baseball now, which

1392
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 6: means fewer visits to each part to make sure that

1393
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,719
Speaker 6: you do play each team. And I wonder if, because

1394
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 6: it's the National TV game tomorrow night, if that was

1395
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 6: a factory and saying, you know, maybe we'll have a

1396
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 6: window to start this thing at ten fifteen Eastern time,

1397
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 6: as opposed to just playing to tomorrow again the Mets

1398
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 6: at Saint Louis. They are playing to tomorrow, but no

1399
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 6: national TV game.

1400
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, good point, Steve de Sager.

1401
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 2: Steve's going to stick around the next segment because Ryan

1402
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 2: Hollins is going to get against the crew in a

1403
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 2: game that we are calling the Golden Standard.

1404
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 3: Ryan Hollins, are you ready for that? Yeah?

1405
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 10: Okay, sounds ready.

1406
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is nervous. I don't know if you could tell, Steve,

1407
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 2: he is very, very nervous. This is actually a game

1408
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 2: where I think someone could get a perfect score. Okay,

1409
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 2: we're just going to call it the Golden Standard. He's

1410
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins. I'm Dan Byer. It's next year on Fox

1411
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. It's Fox Sports Saturday. He's Ryan Hollinds. I'm

1412
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 2: Dan Byer, hanging out with you. Game seven almost a

1413
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 2: rap in Denver. Looks like the Nuggets will be moving

1414
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 2: on to face the Thunder. That playoff series will get

1415
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 2: underway coming up on Monday. Two games tomorrow at Game one,

1416
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 2: Pacers and Cavaliers in the Eastern Semis. That'll be the

1417
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 2: first game the last game Western Conference first Round. Ryan

1418
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 2: will be there in Houston, the Rockets entertaining the Warriors. Ryan,

1419
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 2: if you don't know, after his ten year NBA careers

1420
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:03,719
Speaker 2: transition to member of the media and now is the

1421
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 2: TV analyst for the Houston Rockets and their broadcast. It's

1422
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 2: your final broadcast of the season, no matter what, right

1423
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 2: tomorrow it is because it.

1424
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 3: Is TV Rights.

1425
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 4: I would like to this to have been a suite,

1426
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:17,600
Speaker 4: but nonetheless, selfishly I get to see a lot more Rockets.

1427
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 2: Basketball, yes, and we'll find out tomorrow night if we're

1428
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 2: going to be seeing more of.

1429
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 3: Rockets basketball even after that fact.

1430
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 2: So Greg Popovich stepped down as the Spurs head coach

1431
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 2: yesterday and is going to transition to a full time

1432
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 2: role as the team president of basketball operations. Popovich leaving

1433
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 2: the game with the most wins of any coach in

1434
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 2: NBA history. We are playing the Golden Standard, and there's

1435
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 2: a reason why the game is called the Golden Standard,

1436
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins, You're going to be playing against Ian Roddy,

1437
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 2: our executive producer, Steve De Sager, our update anchor, and

1438
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 2: our tech the co producer Mary Mack. All Right, everybody

1439
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 2: for themselves all four of you will give an answer

1440
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 2: for your own choice. And it's a simple answer, more

1441
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 2: or less. And the golden standard is the Golden State

1442
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 2: Warriors head coach Steve Kerr, who is twenty ninth in

1443
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 2: NBA history with five hundred and sixty seven wins in

1444
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 2: his career. That's twenty ninth of anybody who's coached in

1445
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 2: the game in the NBA, twenty ninth doll time and wins.

1446
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you guys a head coaching name, and

1447
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 2: you have to tell me if it's more or less

1448
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 2: than Steve Kerr's wins, if that coach has more wins

1449
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:44,679
Speaker 2: or less wins in their.

1450
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 3: Career, are you ready to play Ryan Hollins, Let's go

1451
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 3: all right.

1452
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 2: The first name, stan Van Gundy. Does he have more

1453
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 2: or less career wins than Steve Kerr?

1454
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 3: His career less? Less Ian Roddy.

1455
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 10: I'm gonna go with less as well, Steve de seger I,

1456
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 10: less Mary Mack.

1457
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 11: I don't even know who bro is, but everyone's saying.

1458
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 2: Something to go less, give yourselves a point. He does

1459
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 2: have less not. It's it's very close. It's not as

1460
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 2: big of a gap as you would think. Steve Kurr

1461
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 2: is five hundred and sixty seven wins. Stan Van Gundy

1462
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 2: is five fifty four. Wow, five point fifty four. Stan

1463
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 2: Van Gundy is thirty second all time. So good job

1464
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 2: on that one, all right, The next one, Mike Brown.

1465
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:44,520
Speaker 2: Mike Brown, former coach of the Calves, the Lakers, and

1466
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 2: now most recently, the former coach of the Sacramento Kings.

1467
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 2: Does he have more less wins than Steve Kerr's five

1468
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 2: sixty seven? Ryan Hollins, He's got more, He's got more,

1469
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 2: Ian Roddy.

1470
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 12: See, it's off with Ryan being the first one because

1471
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 12: I former NBA player. I don't want to disagree here.

1472
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 12: I I know he's he was was Slash is Steve

1473
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 12: kurrs assistant, and.

1474
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 10: I don't know if he's back with the Warriors. Now

1475
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 10: I'm gonna say.

1476
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 3: Less, okay, Steve de Seger.

1477
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 6: If I stand corrected on this one later, I'm fine

1478
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 6: with that. There's no way he has more wins than Steve.

1479
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 10: All right, less Mary mack Still, I don't know who

1480
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 10: bro is, but we're just gonna go.

1481
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 2: Less, okay, less the less have it four fifty four

1482
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 2: in eleven seasons. Mike Brown four hundred and fifty four wins.

1483
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 2: So Ian Stephen, Mary, give yourself a point.

1484
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 10: Hey, we were a.

1485
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 6: Great folk group too, Ian Stephen, Mary, Yes.

1486
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 3: I love it. Mary on lead vocals, you know that. Yes?

1487
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 3: All right, guys, what about Chuck Daily? Ian, We're gonna

1488
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 3: start with you.

1489
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 2: Chuck Daily won a couple of NBA titles with the

1490
01:17:55,280 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 2: Detroit Pistons. You said you felt weird following Ryan high Hollins,

1491
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 2: so we'll change the order.

1492
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1493
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 12: Now I'm thinking I shouldn't have said anything.

1494
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, you get data point.

1495
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, So what you get for Chuck Daily? I'm gonna

1496
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 3: say he is more, Okay, more, Steve de Seger.

1497
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 6: Dream team coach, he's gotta have more.

1498
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 11: I'll say more, Mary, he said, Piston says.

1499
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 3: Coach was he's no longer with us.

1500
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,799
Speaker 11: You know, I'm a Michigander. So I'm just gonna say more.

1501
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 2: All right, more? And Ryan Hollins less less. He has

1502
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 2: more six hundred and thirty eight and fourteen seasons. This

1503
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 2: is the interesting company We've got. We got two more

1504
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 2: that will do quick here, all right, Tom Thibodeaux Ian.

1505
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 12: Roddy Timms has less than Kerr less.

1506
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to Steve de saga.

1507
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 6: This is awful. He's probably tied, isn't he? Is that

1508
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:01,719
Speaker 6: why you picked him? I'll say more more.

1509
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 2: All right, Mary, I'm Tom tibde less and Ryan Hollins

1510
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 2: less less. Tom Thibodeaux has eleven more wins than Steve

1511
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 2: Kurtin in his career five seventy eight in thirteen seasons

1512
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 2: five and seventy eight. In fact, Steve currs twenty ninth.

1513
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 4: Tom Thibodeaux is assistant coach wins twenty eighth.

1514
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 2: No head coaching wins, head coaching wins. I don't even

1515
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 2: think they keep a stat for assistant coaching.

1516
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 3: Wins except for Luke Walton.

1517
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:38,679
Speaker 2: Oh geez, all right, Final one. Michael Malone, Ryan Hollins

1518
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 2: will start with you less less, Ian Roddy.

1519
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm gonna go less Steve and Mary Mack I.

1520
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 11: Just had to do a little quick I'm gonna.

1521
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 3: Say less less. The lesses have it.

1522
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 2: You're right, correct, Michael Malone doesn't have a job now.

1523
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 2: Was unable to add to his little five hundred and

1524
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 2: ten wins in twelve seasons.

1525
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 3: So good job.

1526
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 2: But I think it tells you a little bit on

1527
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 2: where Steve Kurr is in his career where others are

1528
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 2: but all based on Greg Popovich's retirement. The Clippers are

1529
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,440
Speaker 2: about to be retired. Their logo maybe should be the Titanic.

1530
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:21,520
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it next year on Fox Sports Radio.

1531
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1532
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 2: Well, that's a wrap on the Nuggets Clippers series. Denver

1533
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,440
Speaker 2: moving on. As you heard Steve di Sager say, welcome

1534
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 2: in Denver, moves on, Clippers go home.

1535
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 3: Now what for the Clippers? We discuss?

1536
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 4: Now?

1537
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 2: What for Tyres Halliburton's dad won't be able to go

1538
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 2: to Game one tomorrow against the Cleveland Cavaliers on the

1539
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 2: recommendation of the Pacers front office. All that and so

1540
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 2: much more, as we thank you for joining us on

1541
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:55,719
Speaker 2: this Saturday night. You and I discussed earlier Ryan Hollins

1542
01:20:55,760 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 2: about what if for Nikola Jokicic, what if for Kawhi Leonard?

1543
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 2: Now that we know Denver's moving on and the Clippers aren't,

1544
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:10,720
Speaker 2: how do you view this Clippers team and how do

1545
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 2: you view this Clippers season now that it ends at

1546
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 2: a seven game series in the first round of the

1547
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 2: Western Conference playoffs.

1548
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 4: I think it shows you how competitive the West is,

1549
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 4: and I think we knew that coming in, but for

1550
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 4: Steve Bomer, he's just invested so much into the Clippers

1551
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 4: getting back to so to go out in the first round,

1552
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 4: I mean, it's tough, but everybody's good. I don't want

1553
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 4: to over understate it. Obviously he's got the new facility.

1554
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 4: You want to win, you get James Harden, everything was

1555
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,600
Speaker 4: looking up, but you're going against the Denver Nuggets, and

1556
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, man, this was no cake walk. At

1557
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 4: the end of the day, the Dickver Nuggets are still

1558
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 4: very good. They got the best player in the planet

1559
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 4: in Nicola Jokic over there, and he showed why he

1560
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 4: was that good. And this was a team that they

1561
01:21:57,960 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 4: won a World Championships, So you go into a game

1562
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 4: they've kind of seen that before. They're still generally healthy

1563
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 4: and intact, and I think the biggest questions with the

1564
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 4: Nuggets coming back to being the best version of themselves

1565
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:15,719
Speaker 4: was saying, hey, how are we going to refill our brinch?

1566
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 4: How are we going to get these guys going? And

1567
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 4: Christian Brown was really good. Russell Westbrook had good minutes.

1568
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 4: He's been up and down, and at the end of

1569
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,560
Speaker 4: the day, if they can click, you got enough and

1570
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:27,919
Speaker 4: you're starting five to be able to repeat.

1571
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 2: Clippers just didn't get much of anything from Norman Powell

1572
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 2: nine points. Now this game is a three point game

1573
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 2: midway through the second quarter. Clippers actually had a lead

1574
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 2: after one, but Denver just ended up taking off and

1575
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 2: running away with it. And even in these coin flip scenarios,

1576
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 2: if you will Ryan, at some point, when you're a

1577
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 2: fan or you're a Clippers fan, you're just like, all right,

1578
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 2: can it turn up heads for us once? You know,

1579
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:55,600
Speaker 2: at least for us once, can we break through? And

1580
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 2: now when you have this core of Kawhi and I

1581
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 2: touched on this earlier about it, I think that it's

1582
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 2: a legitimate point when you're now you've made it through

1583
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 2: a season where he was healthy in the playoffs, wasn't

1584
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:12,720
Speaker 2: completely healthy throughout the regular season, but got to a

1585
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 2: point where he was able to then play for the

1586
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 2: team in the regular season after missing games early, and

1587
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 2: then be there for this postseason.

1588
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 3: And that's not always a given.

1589
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 2: And that's why I think it's ultimately a wasted opportunity.

1590
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:28,839
Speaker 2: You're dead on with with it being the Western Conference

1591
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 2: and how tight things were, I think just a couple

1592
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 2: of games basically. I mean you mentioned your rockets earlier

1593
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 2: in them kind of just taking their foot off the pedal. Noion,

1594
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 2: they'd be the two seed. But you had from three

1595
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 2: to eight, just a couple of game difference, you know,

1596
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 2: in those standings, And so that tells you how you

1597
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 2: know how tight the standings were and how close these

1598
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 2: matchups were. And a lot of times it is about matchups.

1599
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 2: But if you're the Clippers, you just at some point

1600
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 2: you say, okay, can we can we have one go

1601
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 2: our way?

1602
01:23:58,400 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 3: And this one didn't.

1603
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,679
Speaker 2: And now when you look at another year of Kawhi

1604
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 2: and another year of James Harden, and those guys aren't

1605
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 2: getting any younger, you just kind of have to.

1606
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 3: You have to.

1607
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 2: You have to wonder on if it will ever be

1608
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 2: their time, because it sure didn't look like it tonight.

1609
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 4: No, no it didn't. But I mean for the Clippers,

1610
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I think for what they had, and I

1611
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 4: think kind of having the resolve to say we're willing

1612
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:30,799
Speaker 4: to move on from Paul George and seemingly getting better,

1613
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:33,679
Speaker 4: and they've just kind of got their own situation going

1614
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 4: on there with Kawhi. Leonard, don't try to make sense

1615
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 4: of it. He kind of set out the regular season

1616
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 4: and came back and he was well. But in fairness,

1617
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 4: that does put a lot of pressure on the front

1618
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:49,719
Speaker 4: office again because you're saying, Okay, how many years straight

1619
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 4: can we keep doing the same thing? What is our goal?

1620
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 4: Is our goal just to be competitive? Because if we

1621
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 4: have this faith in Kawhi, we essentially let him sit

1622
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 4: out the whole season in the and he comes back

1623
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 4: and then we lose in the first round. Is it

1624
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 4: worth the risk? That's what you got to ask yourself.

1625
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 4: And when he came back, make no mistake, he was electric,

1626
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 4: and you can say, hey, how are we going to

1627
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 4: address the Western Conference? Because the mindset was we should

1628
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 4: be able to win the championship with Kahi Leonard or

1629
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 4: we should be able to be a whole lot more

1630
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 4: competitive than you know what you're going out and saying.

1631
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 4: So they've got questions to answer, and it's kind of

1632
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 4: you know, you're gonna wonder what, like I said, what

1633
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 4: is the commitment there with Kawhi Leonard.

1634
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 2: The Nuggets and Thunders split their season series, winning two

1635
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 2: games apiece, and again that series will start in Oklahoma

1636
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 2: City coming up on on Monday. As I'm looking at

1637
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 2: the highlights and seeing a Russell Westbrook just yelling into

1638
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 2: the crowd. I asked you about who was America's team

1639
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 2: and Who's going to be America's team. Do you find

1640
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 2: people getting behind Russell Westbrook?

1641
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 3: Now? I do?

1642
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 2: I think that it is It is so funny on

1643
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:07,640
Speaker 2: his narrative and his story arc, if you want to

1644
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 2: put it in that way, where when he was with

1645
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, maybe you weren't a fan because the thunder

1646
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 2: were winning at that time, but then when Kevin Durant leaves,

1647
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 2: you're like, well, he's the one that stayed. And then

1648
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 2: Westbrook bounces around and then the whole Westbrook thing pops up,

1649
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 2: and now he goes to Denver and kind of finds

1650
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:27,719
Speaker 2: a home and kind of fit. I feel that people

1651
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 2: have rallied around Russell Westbrook. Again, Am I wrong in

1652
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:35,680
Speaker 2: that assessment? And looking at the Nuggets veteran and as

1653
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 2: they now advance to the Western semis.

1654
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 4: No, I think this year more so than ever, and

1655
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:45,759
Speaker 4: I think the expectation of Russell Westbrook being a great

1656
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 4: player are gone. And I think the mindset was we

1657
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 4: just appreciate who he is and that he's here and

1658
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:58,600
Speaker 4: how hard he plays, and you're not taking Russ and

1659
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 4: saying well, he's an All Star and he's this and that.

1660
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 4: You're saying he's really good, he competes and he loves

1661
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:06,679
Speaker 4: the game of basketball. And I think when you take

1662
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 4: that context and you appreciate him, that's what people are

1663
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 4: starting to do and what's stuff for Russ? And Russ

1664
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 4: is my guy, and I think this draws, you know,

1665
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 4: frustration from me to no end, especially when it comes

1666
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 4: to fans. It's not that they're saying, well, Russ missed

1667
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 4: a jump shot or Russ missed a la at per se.

1668
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 4: They're attacking him as a person, as a man, as

1669
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 4: a human being. And that's when you're going, man, this

1670
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 4: deal is getting out of hand. You guys are doing

1671
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:41,679
Speaker 4: way too much with him, and it becomes the personal

1672
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 4: attacks that everyone has problems with.

1673
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 2: I get that, you know, the name stuff like some

1674
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 2: people don't doesn't bother them. We saw in the NCAA tournament,

1675
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 2: Calvin Samson, you know, saying like, my name is Calvin.

1676
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 2: It's not Kevin, it's Calvin. And there may be one

1677
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,799
Speaker 2: letter off to you said, you know my name is Calvin.

1678
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 2: It's what my mom named me. She said, don't you know,

1679
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 2: let anybody call you anything else but your name, and

1680
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 2: and I completely agree with that. I completely agree, one

1681
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 2: hundred percent. Like it's it may not seem something to

1682
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 2: someone else and saying and getting a name wrong. And

1683
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 2: the reason I'm saying that is because I understand people say, oh,

1684
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 2: it's just a taunting. It's just a taunting of a

1685
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 2: name of west Brick. But I actually can see why

1686
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 2: it would bother me so much. You want to give

1687
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 2: me another you know, you want to call me bricklayer

1688
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 2: or whatever. The name case is completely different story. But

1689
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 2: I actually do understand why you would get mad of someone.

1690
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:44,719
Speaker 3: Mocking your name in that way.

1691
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 2: I went and had some takeout food the other day,

1692
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 2: you know, Ryan Hollins. I won't tell you from what

1693
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 2: pizza place I picked up some parial pizzas from, but

1694
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 2: I went in.

1695
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 4: They call you Dan what they kind of say by

1696
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 4: her bear.

1697
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:04,639
Speaker 2: Like a like a grizzly bear or like the aspirin bear,

1698
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,719
Speaker 2: and it's b e y e r and it's pronounced buyer,

1699
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 2: and I just it's just an immediate response, I correct people.

1700
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 2: And again, may not be a big deal. That person

1701
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 2: was probably annoyed that I said it knowing that I

1702
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:22,839
Speaker 2: knew that that was my order. But I still correct

1703
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 2: people because it is my name, and I feel that

1704
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 2: there's a weight towards that. So I get when Russell

1705
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 2: Westbrook is ticked off in talking about that or saying

1706
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 2: they're somebody making fun of his name. I think I

1707
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 2: would as well. I'm mad when they get it wrong

1708
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 2: at the pizza place. Heck, you know, if they're going

1709
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 2: to talk about my jumper in that way, I'd be

1710
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 2: ten times as angry. So I get it, but I

1711
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 2: think people are rooting for him. Plus people root for

1712
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:53,639
Speaker 2: the joker. They're the underdog in the series. I think

1713
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 2: people will root for that, even though I still think

1714
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,680
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City's America's team. The Nuggets are the one with

1715
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 2: the title. The thunder him be there before. I don't

1716
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 2: know that's so I think at all how it's all

1717
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,639
Speaker 2: going to shake out Ryan Hollins fandom wise.

1718
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 4: But I'm happy for us. And again, I think he's

1719
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 4: in a position where he can be appreciated, and I

1720
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 4: think he gets his job in the NBA. You know,

1721
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 4: there was a moment where he's like, Hey, I'm a starter.

1722
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 4: This is what I am go through me, and I

1723
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 4: think he's now like, I'll come off the bench and

1724
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 4: bring energy. There's no one who's going to bring more

1725
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 4: energy to a game than me, and I think that

1726
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:28,599
Speaker 4: he settled in just fine to that role.

1727
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:31,799
Speaker 3: He's Ryan Hollins. I'm Dan Byer.

1728
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 2: The Clipper season is over, third straight first round playoff

1729
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:40,600
Speaker 2: exit for the Clippers, while the Nuggets are into the

1730
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 2: conference semi finals, trying to make it back to an

1731
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 2: NBA finals, trying to make it back to a conference finals.

1732
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,480
Speaker 2: First things first, they just got to get through Oklahoma

1733
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:52,640
Speaker 2: City to make it to those conference finals again. That

1734
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 2: series starting on Monday. Hit Ryan up at the Ryan

1735
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 2: Hollins you can find me at Dan Byer on Fox.

1736
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 2: We talked about We mentioned John Halliburton, the dad of

1737
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 2: Tyrese Halliburton, not allowed to attend Pacers home and road

1738
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 2: games at the suggestion of the Pacers' front office. A

1739
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 2: line was crossed, no doubt about it. Is there any

1740
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:15,679
Speaker 2: way for John Halliburton to get on the other side

1741
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 2: of that line? And you wouldn't believe what is happening

1742
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 2: in the NBA next season. We'll tell you what that is.

1743
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 2: He's Ryan Hollins. I'm Dan Byer. That's next year on

1744
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Denver Nuggets are winning on to the

1745
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:34,799
Speaker 2: Western Semis, beating the Clippers in impressive fashion, one twenty

1746
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 2: to one oh one. Clippers go home. I just saw

1747
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 2: a graphic. He's Ryan Hollins. I'm Dan Byer, Ryan, the

1748
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 2: ten year NBA VET. Just saw a graphic that I

1749
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 2: think is completely I just think it's unfair. And it's

1750
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 2: a graphic put out by Yahoo Sports that shows James

1751
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 2: Harden in four different uniforms saying James Harden has not

1752
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:59,879
Speaker 2: lost a game seven with four separate teams.

1753
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:02,639
Speaker 3: And I don't know if this.

1754
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 2: Is just the NBA, maybe maybe this could happen in

1755
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 2: the NFL. I don't think that James Harden is to

1756
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:13,680
Speaker 2: blame in all of this. I feel that maybe he's

1757
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 2: an easy target. Clippers were obviously outclassed today by the

1758
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 2: Denver Nuggets, and every way, shape or form from about

1759
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 2: the end of the first quarter on, I feel graphics

1760
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 2: like that pilon in a narrative for how we look

1761
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 2: at James Harden. I think there's a difference between game

1762
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 2: sevens and conference finals and game seven's.

1763
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 3: In first rounds.

1764
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:42,120
Speaker 2: I think that the way that playoffs play out, I

1765
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 2: think it's unfair to James Harden to put a graphic

1766
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 2: out like this, Ryan Hollins, Are you with me on

1767
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 2: this or does James Harden bear this responsibility of being

1768
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:55,599
Speaker 2: on a losing team in those Game sevens?

1769
01:32:56,680 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 4: No, I'm with you. Here's the thing. You know, until

1770
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:04,160
Speaker 4: you get over the edge, you are gonna be the

1771
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 4: butt of those jokes. But even bigger than that, I

1772
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 4: just hate the society that we live in where you

1773
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 4: can kind of troll guys and trol people that are

1774
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 4: doing things at such a high level that the normal

1775
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 4: person couldn't do it at So, you know, you're kind

1776
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 4: of jeering at James Harden, who's one of the greatest

1777
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 4: players that we've ever seen play. Now he doesn't have

1778
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 4: a championship and that's what you're gonna hold over his head,

1779
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:38,040
Speaker 4: or you know, Lebron I was frustrated with this. Lebron

1780
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:41,720
Speaker 4: goes down and it didn't look like much, and you

1781
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:45,679
Speaker 4: know he you know, has an ends up with the knees,

1782
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 4: brain or whatever, you know, you want to call it.

1783
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 4: And everybody's like, oh, he's soft, he's this, and it's

1784
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 4: like we just live in a nasty, dirty loser society

1785
01:33:56,280 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 4: where you, you know, you really make it easy to

1786
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 4: talk bad about people who are actually succeeding. And it

1787
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:09,719
Speaker 4: frustrates me because I feel like we teach the kids

1788
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 4: to be losers when you do that, because you're not

1789
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:15,639
Speaker 4: teaching them how hard to work or to respect someone

1790
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 4: who's put in real work. And and it really just

1791
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 4: puts It puts a frown on the game. It puts

1792
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 4: a frown on our society, the way things work. I

1793
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:26,400
Speaker 4: just I'm really not a fan of a lot of

1794
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 4: the things that we see. And James Harden is a

1795
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 4: dog man, he's a he's a really good basketball player.

1796
01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 4: And it's it's kind of like this, so mudge to

1797
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:38,200
Speaker 4: his name. But it's something that we do, man, and

1798
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:40,519
Speaker 4: I and I think it ultimately needs to stop.

1799
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is my problem.

1800
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 2: And to your point, like talking about like and how

1801
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:50,760
Speaker 2: this transcends to maybe other generations and looking stuff like

1802
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:53,559
Speaker 2: that and graphics like that, to me, it's not, hey,

1803
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 2: these are the numbers in basketball, let's break it down

1804
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 2: this way or not that stuff. What it does is

1805
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:03,679
Speaker 2: I don't mind people hating to lose. Everybody should hate

1806
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 2: to lose. It's the fear of losing that I think

1807
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 2: gets put into people because of stuff like this, What

1808
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 2: is going to happen if I lose instead of just

1809
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 2: going out and competing and trying to win. And I

1810
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 2: think I do think that there is a difference. Sure,

1811
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:19,679
Speaker 2: there's always going to be a winner and a loser.

1812
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 2: And sometimes you know, you win some, you lose some.

1813
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 2: That's the old saying, right, But you start to put

1814
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 2: this fear of losing and what it can do to you,

1815
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 2: and then now you're three steps further down the line

1816
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,680
Speaker 2: than you ever thought you would be. James Harden was

1817
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 2: great for the Clippers this season. James Harden is also

1818
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 2: not in the prime of his career. I'm not giving

1819
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 2: him an out, but I do think that every player,

1820
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 2: like if you want to hold them to that standard, Ryan,

1821
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 2: I think people need to hold them to that standard

1822
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 2: of when they're in the.

1823
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:48,960
Speaker 3: Prime of their career.

1824
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 2: Okay, just because James Harden was on this team that

1825
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 2: lost to Game seven with Philadelphia, was were the Sixers

1826
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:58,040
Speaker 2: James Harden's team? I don't think they were. I think

1827
01:35:58,040 --> 01:35:59,599
Speaker 2: they were Joel Embiid's team. If you want to put

1828
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:02,720
Speaker 2: them on the right pockets and say that completely. That

1829
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 2: was when he was in his prime, that's where he

1830
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 2: won his MVP. I'm totally good with that. It feels

1831
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:12,400
Speaker 2: like it's a stat that's trying to to just to

1832
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 2: just to be rude, just to be mean to James Harden,

1833
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:17,719
Speaker 2: or if you're not a James Harden fan, point out, look,

1834
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 2: he's not clutch again, didn't win a game seven.

1835
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:22,679
Speaker 3: Well, for as great as he was, this is still

1836
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 3: Kawhi's team to that point.

1837
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to diminish his role with the Clippers,

1838
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 2: but I feel I feel that a graphic like that,

1839
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 2: and a and a stat like that is piling on

1840
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 2: more than anything else.

1841
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and that ends up, you know, just being something

1842
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 4: that gets promoted when it when it shouldn't. And I'm

1843
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 4: not a I'm really not a big fan of it.

1844
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 4: I agree, and I think that I think hopefully we

1845
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 4: get more truth to be told out there. And I

1846
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 4: see it even with the kids now, they're almost afraid

1847
01:36:56,520 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 4: to succeed because you're you're you're you're mocking. So one

1848
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 4: plan at the highest level of levels that you can

1849
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 4: get to, and I think that there's some moments where

1850
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:07,639
Speaker 4: you can say, hey man, this guy made a mistake.

1851
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,720
Speaker 4: He did this right, did this wrong, whatever, But I

1852
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:13,559
Speaker 4: just hope that the difference is being shown out there.

1853
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:16,360
Speaker 4: And what happens is you got a lot of kids

1854
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 4: that are, you know, trying to play sports or trying

1855
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 4: to do something, and they're more worried about an Instagram

1856
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 4: clip than actually being a succeeding or being a winner

1857
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:26,240
Speaker 4: doing the little things.

1858
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 2: He had twenty eight points in Game six. Unfortunately, tonight

1859
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 2: had just seven points to the thirteen assists, so not

1860
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:37,439
Speaker 2: necessarily the way that he would go out. But again,

1861
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:40,320
Speaker 2: I just I feel that at some point we are

1862
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 2: piling on.

1863
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 3: Are we piling on too much.

1864
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 2: Of John Halliburton, the dad of Tyrese Haliburton of the

1865
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:49,479
Speaker 2: Indiana Pacers, or is there still room where we can

1866
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 2: add on after his taunting of Jiannis and Detta Gumpo

1867
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:53,759
Speaker 2: after Game five earlier this week.

1868
01:37:55,840 --> 01:38:01,640
Speaker 4: Here's the thing we have right now. These playoffs have

1869
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 4: been more emotionally charged and chippy than we've seen in

1870
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:07,639
Speaker 4: a long time, and I think that's an absolute win

1871
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 4: for the NBA. I think the NBA is finding out

1872
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 4: how to navigate that space because you do have to

1873
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 4: let those things go when you come down too hard

1874
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 4: and you soften the game up man and shooting hockey,

1875
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 4: they fight, They dust each other off and keep playing

1876
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 4: in the same game. Not to say that the NBA

1877
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:27,000
Speaker 4: should be fighting, but those little desk ups are not

1878
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:30,639
Speaker 4: bad for the sport. Now, mister Holliburton with a mistake

1879
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 4: that he made is that he came on to the

1880
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 4: court and it became more about himself than about his son.

1881
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 4: And after he made that mistake, and you can say, hey,

1882
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 4: I understand, I get it. It happened, he goes on

1883
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 4: Instagram Live or goes wherever, and he kind of like

1884
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 4: explains himself and his son already said what my dad

1885
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 4: did was inexcusable. So he kind of goes around his

1886
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:55,559
Speaker 4: son and then says what he says. And I think

1887
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 4: because he did that knowing that he was in the wrong,

1888
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:02,479
Speaker 4: I think what it does is it put the Pacers

1889
01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:04,720
Speaker 4: in a situation where he said, hey, he's going to

1890
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:08,600
Speaker 4: do what he feels like doing. We need to, you know,

1891
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 4: kind of suspend him. And I feel like he should

1892
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 4: be able to see his son's his son play. At

1893
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 4: the end of the day, He's not going to be

1894
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 4: the first or last parent that's been sent up to

1895
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:22,479
Speaker 4: the to the to the suits. Send him to the sweets.

1896
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 4: Let him watch him there, and you don't have to

1897
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 4: hear what he said. Hey, if we remember a long time,

1898
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 4: I think Lebron's mom something happened or somebody hit him,

1899
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 4: and she went to jump up, and then Lebron, young

1900
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 4: Lebron turns over and looks at his mom is like,

1901
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 4: this ain't happening, you know, and and and you hadn't

1902
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:40,400
Speaker 4: And his mom has been the game since. But guess what,

1903
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 4: she was never a store. You never saw her, uh,

1904
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 4: you know, since since that time. So I think ultimately,

1905
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:48,599
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, that's what happened, should happen.

1906
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:50,320
Speaker 4: He should be able to see his son plan. I

1907
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:54,040
Speaker 4: think the mistake that he made was not reading the

1908
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:56,080
Speaker 4: room and going to speak out when he shouldn't have.

1909
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, did he not read the room?

1910
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:02,400
Speaker 2: I I I'll say this, Ryan, this is what was

1911
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 2: First of all, I have to say, it's almost thank

1912
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 2: goodness it was a game five that this series didn't

1913
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:12,320
Speaker 2: have two more games to get chippier and end like that,

1914
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 2: because I actually think there could have been a different

1915
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 2: reaction if there was a game seven. Also, Yannis not

1916
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:21,559
Speaker 2: the guy to do that too. Like, Giannis is wired

1917
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 2: differently than I think anybody. Do you remember remember when

1918
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:28,639
Speaker 2: he bulldozed Mike Dunlevy JUNR early on his career. They're

1919
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 2: playing the Bulls in a game in Milwaukee at Giannis

1920
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:33,360
Speaker 2: was young, and this is a former teammate. He and

1921
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:36,639
Speaker 2: Dunlevy played together, and Dunleavy got the ball and Giannis

1922
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 2: just ran and.

1923
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:40,439
Speaker 3: Shoved him, pushed him over.

1924
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 12: It's also Dunleavy's the Warriors GM.

1925
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, yes, but that was that was like, that's

1926
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:49,920
Speaker 2: when you knew that Giannis ran hot. And I give

1927
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:52,880
Speaker 2: Gianni's credit for keeping us cool, knowing also what the

1928
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:56,200
Speaker 2: ramifications were to be if he did anything. But Janis

1929
01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:57,640
Speaker 2: even got in a little bit of a dust up

1930
01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:01,360
Speaker 2: with some of the Pacers players after that whole scenario happened.

1931
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 2: We saw what happened when Giannis wanted his sixty four

1932
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 2: point basketball against the Basers. So there's a lot of

1933
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 2: fuel on that. But Ryan, I can't get past the

1934
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:16,800
Speaker 2: point that after a victory the Tyres Halliburton's dad felt

1935
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 2: that his spot was on the court. It's like like

1936
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 2: there's this like invisible line. And as a member of

1937
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:26,320
Speaker 2: the media, I get access. You know, we get access

1938
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:29,640
Speaker 2: as media members to places that fans don't get. But

1939
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:32,880
Speaker 2: it's not like we get access to everywhere. And there

1940
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:34,640
Speaker 2: are spots that we know as a member of the

1941
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:37,559
Speaker 2: media that you just can't you can't go to. You

1942
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:41,960
Speaker 2: as a former player, probably have different accesses media than

1943
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:44,639
Speaker 2: I do, and you could go in places, but there's

1944
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 2: just spots like I know, okay, we can't go there,

1945
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:51,120
Speaker 2: can't be there whatsoever. To think that you are allowed

1946
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:54,960
Speaker 2: to go onto the court to celebrate a victory, let

1947
01:41:55,000 --> 01:42:00,880
Speaker 2: alone taunt another player, I can't get past. I get

1948
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:04,799
Speaker 2: being excited. I get being excited for your son. You're

1949
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:07,639
Speaker 2: hoping he's gonna run over give you a hug after

1950
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 2: the game and celebrate that way. But to be able

1951
01:42:10,439 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 2: to think that you were a part of it and

1952
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:15,599
Speaker 2: to step foot on the actual wood of the floor

1953
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 2: and then go on to the playing surface on the

1954
01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 2: other side of those lines, I can't get past that.

1955
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:25,639
Speaker 2: And that's the part to me of I thought too, like, yeah,

1956
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:27,280
Speaker 2: I let him sit in a suite, But I'm like,

1957
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:31,080
Speaker 2: if your mentality is that, that's the mentality of Yeah,

1958
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:33,280
Speaker 2: then I will go and do the interview, even though

1959
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 2: my son spoke for me. Yeah, I will go and talk,

1960
01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:38,160
Speaker 2: and I will go and say this in excuse about

1961
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:40,479
Speaker 2: my part. I just can't get back. I can't get

1962
01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 2: past the fact that he got up, left his seat

1963
01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 2: and went on the court let alone, then decided to

1964
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 2: taunt to him with.

1965
01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 3: The tyres Aliburton towel. I can't get asked.

1966
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 4: At that point it was about him. You know what

1967
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 4: if he ran to his son, he shouldn't have been

1968
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 4: in the forebts. His son is only let's say, and

1969
01:42:56,479 --> 01:43:03,400
Speaker 4: here's the thing, you're right. Let's say Yiannis had a dectum.

1970
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:05,840
Speaker 4: Let's say he did that, he took a step forward,

1971
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:11,880
Speaker 4: and Yannis interpreted it in a different way. In Yanni's dectum,

1972
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:14,600
Speaker 4: Jannie would have been in the wrong. What would have

1973
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:18,280
Speaker 4: been like, hold on, dude, that's an emotionally charged space.

1974
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:23,680
Speaker 4: What are you jumping into? You know? And it's dangerous, hey,

1975
01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:26,479
Speaker 4: it's dangerous for players. You see guys fight, Guys get

1976
01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:29,720
Speaker 4: into it after games, and there's a lot going on

1977
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 4: in that scenario and it and again, it should have

1978
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:34,680
Speaker 4: been more about his son. He should have ran to

1979
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 4: his son to hug his son, and they have an embrace,

1980
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:41,640
Speaker 4: and you know there's an understanding that a parent or

1981
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:44,599
Speaker 4: someone close kind of gets that green light. And I'm

1982
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:48,320
Speaker 4: sure there's a lot going on in that scenario, and

1983
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 4: maybe even confusion because after they they did connect, you know,

1984
01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 4: there was I love you, I love you too from

1985
01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 4: Yiannis to him. But Yiannis is going, what's this dude

1986
01:43:57,200 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 4: doing here? What's he doing on the floor? You know,

1987
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 4: so he was absolutely wrong, and you know I didn't

1988
01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 4: like that he doubled down.

1989
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:10,320
Speaker 3: And you're not thinking right now after your.

1990
01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 2: Team just blew a seven point lead in thirty eight,

1991
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 2: you know, with thirty seconds left in the game, and

1992
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:19,559
Speaker 2: your season has just come to a crashing halt, when

1993
01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 2: you felt like you could live another day and play

1994
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 2: a game six like you aren't necessarily you aren't locked

1995
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:28,880
Speaker 2: in and focused and understanding. You're locked into the game,

1996
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:32,080
Speaker 2: but anything else around you may seem weird.

1997
01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:33,200
Speaker 3: And to have that happen.

1998
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:38,040
Speaker 2: I'm not a fighting person. I've never been in a

1999
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:39,880
Speaker 2: fight in my life. Knock on, what if I did,

2000
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:42,599
Speaker 2: I would definitely lose it. I would not be winning

2001
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:47,960
Speaker 2: that fight. But man to have the restraint at that

2002
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 2: point and just stand there if you're honest, because then

2003
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:53,080
Speaker 2: it was Pat Connaton and I think TJ. McConnell who

2004
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:56,400
Speaker 2: came over and kind of separated them, And you're honest again,

2005
01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 2: he had a brew haha with a couple of other

2006
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:03,599
Speaker 2: Pacers players and and then shook hands. Ultimately they shake

2007
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:06,920
Speaker 2: hands and move on. As you said, spoke with John Halliburton.

2008
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:09,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, I can't. I just can't get past him

2009
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:12,680
Speaker 2: getting onto the court. It's just crazy to me. And

2010
01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 2: your point about him running to go see tyres if

2011
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:18,000
Speaker 2: he actually did step on the court, it's absolutely fair,

2012
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 2: but still it would take a lot to get on

2013
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 2: the other side of that of that line for me

2014
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 2: and John Halliburton definitely crossed it.

2015
01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 3: He is Ryan Hollins. I'm Dan Byer.

2016
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:28,519
Speaker 2: You could stream this show on all of our Fox

2017
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 2: Sports Radio shows live twenty four to seven of the

2018
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:32,599
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2019
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:34,800
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2020
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:36,879
Speaker 2: To stream us live, and one of the newest features

2021
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:38,599
Speaker 2: in the app is that you could select Fox Sports

2022
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:41,799
Speaker 2: Radio is one of your presets, just like the presets

2023
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 2: on a radio dial, So be sure to preset Fox

2024
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:46,880
Speaker 2: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app and it will always

2025
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 2: pop up at the top of your screen. It's pretty

2026
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 2: awesome that that feature is now available.

2027
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:54,679
Speaker 3: Find Rolin. Find Ryan at the Ryan Hollins.

2028
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:57,559
Speaker 2: I was going to just make you one name, Rollins,

2029
01:45:57,600 --> 01:45:59,479
Speaker 2: That's what I was going to call you. Get Ryan

2030
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:02,519
Speaker 2: Hollins at the Ryan Allens. You can find me at

2031
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:04,559
Speaker 2: Dan Byer on Fox. Let's go to the news desk.

2032
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:07,960
Speaker 2: Steve de Seger post mortem on Game seven between the

2033
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:09,120
Speaker 2: Clippers and Nuggets and more.

2034
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:10,160
Speaker 3: What's going on? Boy?

2035
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 6: That was a bad ending and can we all agree

2036
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:14,639
Speaker 6: that the Clippers could have won the first four games

2037
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:17,200
Speaker 6: in a row and just been done with this series.

2038
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:20,880
Speaker 6: But the overtime loss when they were the better team

2039
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:23,320
Speaker 6: for most of that opening game, and the loss of

2040
01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:25,439
Speaker 6: the dunk at the buzzer, and the Clippers are out.

2041
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:27,599
Speaker 6: It was a battle of fifty win teams. They had

2042
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:31,679
Speaker 6: identical records. Regular season, Denver has advanced over the Clips,

2043
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:34,479
Speaker 6: dominating the last three quarters tonight one twenty to one

2044
01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 6: oh one, the final Nuggets with a seventeen to oh

2045
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:39,680
Speaker 6: run in the third quarter. So Denver goes to Oklahoma

2046
01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:43,560
Speaker 6: City for a game one on Monday in the NHL Playoffs,

2047
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 6: a Game seven has come alive at Dallas. The Stars,

2048
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:49,120
Speaker 6: with back to back goals in the third, have tied

2049
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 6: up Colorado. It's two to two with about five minutes

2050
01:46:52,439 --> 01:46:57,000
Speaker 6: left in regulation. Sovereignty won the Kentucky derby paying seventeen

2051
01:46:57,040 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 6: to ninety six to win at seven to one. Odds

2052
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:02,919
Speaker 6: beat the favorite. Journalism on a muddy track. Scottie Scheffler

2053
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:06,040
Speaker 6: leads by eight strokes in Texas after the third round

2054
01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:09,879
Speaker 6: to Major League Baseball. Speaking of muddy tracks, they're actually

2055
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:13,080
Speaker 6: starting this Dodgers at Atlanta Braves game. It's been going

2056
01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:17,080
Speaker 6: for about ten minutes. It's after ten thirty in Atlanta

2057
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:21,480
Speaker 6: play Ball. They're in the first inning. Dodgers and Brave scoreless.

2058
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 6: They really really did not want to play two tomorrow. Meanwhile,

2059
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:28,799
Speaker 6: the Mets game at Saint Louis was drained out. They

2060
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:31,439
Speaker 6: will play too tomorrow. Padres one on a run in

2061
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 6: the top of the ninth on a wild pitch, two

2062
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:36,720
Speaker 6: to one at Pittsburgh and still going bottom of the

2063
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:39,639
Speaker 6: ninth at Baltimore, still going because they had a rain

2064
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 6: to lay of about an hour early in the game.

2065
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:44,800
Speaker 6: Royals lead for nothing at Baltimore one out in the

2066
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:47,280
Speaker 6: bottom of the ninth. That is on Fox TV for

2067
01:47:47,320 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 6: a lot of markets. Seattle won at six straight game

2068
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:52,240
Speaker 6: two one at Texas with a run in the top

2069
01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:54,960
Speaker 6: of the ninth. At Miami on a grand slam bottom

2070
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:57,240
Speaker 6: of the ninth, Marlins over the A's nine to six

2071
01:47:57,520 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 6: Cleveland one on a grand slam top of the ninth.

2072
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 6: Three at Toronto. Daniel Schneemann was the man who hit

2073
01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 6: the solo homer in the eighth for the Guardians and

2074
01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 6: the slam in the ninth. Manuel Class back to closer

2075
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 6: gets the saves. Six saves for him, ERA over six,

2076
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:17,840
Speaker 6: by the way, the closer for the Seattle Mariners so far,

2077
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:20,439
Speaker 6: Andre's Munoz tonight with his twelfth save.

2078
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 10: His ERA is still zero.

2079
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:23,000
Speaker 11: This season.

2080
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:26,639
Speaker 6: We're into May. His Mariners have won sixteen of twenty

2081
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:29,040
Speaker 6: the late games in Anaheim, the Angels have lost seven

2082
01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:32,080
Speaker 6: in a row. They're hosting Detroit and La Native Jack

2083
01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:34,720
Speaker 6: Flaherty on the mound for the Tigers. It's Angels one

2084
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:36,200
Speaker 6: nothing in the bottom of the fifth.

2085
01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:38,800
Speaker 2: Back to you, Steve, any word on what Fox is

2086
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 2: going to do with the episodes of Raw Travel and

2087
01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 2: I Crime with Elizabeth Vargas Now that this Dodgers Braves

2088
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:46,800
Speaker 2: game is gonna likely run over those.

2089
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:50,759
Speaker 6: What can we all do? Is there a library somewhere

2090
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:54,080
Speaker 6: that we could just tap into? Perhaps they'll have a

2091
01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:59,400
Speaker 6: scroll at the bottom. At three fifteen am you can

2092
01:48:59,479 --> 01:49:03,679
Speaker 6: catch the new episode of Yeah.

2093
01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 2: I love those, And usually they do it for a

2094
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:10,519
Speaker 2: Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy and the price is right now.

2095
01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:13,760
Speaker 6: Jeopardy will watch its huge and popular and always there

2096
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:15,600
Speaker 6: will be a scroll saying up you can see the

2097
01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:18,120
Speaker 6: Jeopardy at ten o'clock tonight or whatever time delayed.

2098
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:20,040
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be up at two am. What do

2099
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:20,519
Speaker 3: I care?

2100
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 2: I don't know how to work this DVR thing. That's

2101
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 2: how That's how I feel. Some conversations go down when

2102
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:26,840
Speaker 2: they see that scroll.

2103
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:29,280
Speaker 6: Ell Li Smith, you'll just be taping. My goodness. The

2104
01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:32,439
Speaker 6: Dallas Stars have scored again. That place is going nuts.

2105
01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:35,320
Speaker 6: Three straight goals in the third. They lead game seven,

2106
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:36,679
Speaker 6: three to two against the Evs.

2107
01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins, do you know why I will never cheer

2108
01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 2: for the Dallas Stars.

2109
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:41,280
Speaker 4: Wow?

2110
01:49:42,160 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 2: I will never cheer for the Dallas Stars because when

2111
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:51,000
Speaker 2: they moved from Minnesota, it was controversial for them moving,

2112
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:54,719
Speaker 2: but they should have been the lone Stars. They should

2113
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:59,000
Speaker 2: have just been stars like the North Star was obviously

2114
01:49:59,080 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 2: a just be the just be the lone Stars. I

2115
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 2: thought that would have been better, and they didn't give

2116
01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:08,439
Speaker 2: They didn't allow them Minnesota to have the North Stars

2117
01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 2: when they came back, so they had to be the

2118
01:50:10,360 --> 01:50:13,840
Speaker 2: wild Yeah. So that's why I'll never cheer for the

2119
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:17,719
Speaker 2: Dallas Stars. I think lone Stars, the Dallas lone Stars

2120
01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 2: would have been much better than just the Dallas Stars.

2121
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:24,880
Speaker 2: We've had WNBA teams named stars. Just lone Stars would

2122
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:27,920
Speaker 2: have just said it completely apart. That's why I will

2123
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:32,160
Speaker 2: never cheer for the Dallas Stars. He is Ryan Hollins.

2124
01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:34,719
Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer, and Ryan does not give two cents

2125
01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:35,719
Speaker 2: about that argument.

2126
01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:38,519
Speaker 3: Find him at Ryan Hollins. You can find me and

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Speaker 3: Dan Byer on Fox.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a do you have a mechanic that

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Speaker 2: you go to in Houston or a place where you

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01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:45,760
Speaker 2: get your your haircut?

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Speaker 4: Do you have do you have any of those spots?

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Speaker 4: Two random places?

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Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, okay, have you ever cheated on one

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Speaker 2: of those places?

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Speaker 4: Do you mean like a different barber? Yes, yeah, of

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Speaker 4: course you go to a different barber. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna get into that. He's Ryan Hollins, the NBA Vet.

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Speaker 4: I'm Dan Byer.

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Speaker 3: We'll keep you updated on what's happening in the Stars

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01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:12,240
Speaker 3: Avalanche game.

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Speaker 2: And Steve told you late in the third period, now

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Speaker 2: under three minutes Dallas with that three to two lead,

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Speaker 2: it's all coming next here on Fox Sports Saturday. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. He's Ryan Hollins, the NBA Vet. I'm Dan Byer.

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01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:31,840
Speaker 2: Game seven in Texas, all but over, we'll go to

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01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 2: Steve de Segar and just a little bit for some

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01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:37,640
Speaker 2: breaking news. I do want to let you know that

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Speaker 2: shortly after the show, our podcast will be going up.

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Speaker 2: If you missed any of today's show, be sure to

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Speaker 2: check out the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

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Speaker 2: rate review the podcast. Again, just search Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcast, and you'll see this show

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01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:56,680
Speaker 2: posted right after we get off the air. So, there

2155
01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 2: was a game Game seven in Denver and the NBA

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01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:05,040
Speaker 2: Playoffs Western Conference first Round, and the Nuggets end up

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Speaker 2: surviving more than surviving in Game seven, routing the Clippers by.

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Speaker 3: A score of one twenty to one.

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Speaker 4: Oh one.

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Speaker 3: Let's get an update.

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Speaker 2: About the other team from Denver, this time on the ice.

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01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:20,880
Speaker 2: Steve de Seger at the News desk, what we've got

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01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:23,160
Speaker 2: for Game seven between the Stars and Avalanche.

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Speaker 6: Something astounding. One guy with four points in the third

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Speaker 6: period in a Game seven comeback for the home team

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01:52:29,080 --> 01:52:32,360
Speaker 6: two seconds left after the empty net goal. Dallas Stars

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01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:36,559
Speaker 6: lead Colorado four to two. Aside from these four goals,

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Speaker 6: they only have fifteen shots the entire game, and yet

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Speaker 6: at home they're going to come away with a Game

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Speaker 6: seven victory against the as Miko Ranton and three goals

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Speaker 6: and an assist in the third period. That means in

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Speaker 6: the final about twelve minutes of this game.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So the Dallas Stars, unless something crazy happens in two

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01:52:57,400 --> 01:53:00,880
Speaker 2: point seven seconds, it'd be the craziest end ever. We'll

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01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:03,599
Speaker 2: move on to the Western Conference Semis. They just don't

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01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:05,839
Speaker 2: know who they're gonna play yet because the Jets and Blues.

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Speaker 2: Uh go to a Game seven that'll be played tomorrow

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Speaker 2: afternoon in Winnipeg. All Right, Ryan Hollins, I asked you

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Speaker 2: have you ever cheated on your barber and mechanic and

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01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:20,759
Speaker 2: you said yes, like this, So this is a pretty

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01:53:20,840 --> 01:53:23,880
Speaker 2: you go to different hairstylists, different barbers all the time.

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Speaker 3: Is that a thing with you?

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Speaker 4: Uh? No, but what I have to here?

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01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:32,080
Speaker 2: Don't you feel guilty the next time you go to

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Speaker 2: your normal hairstylist and they can tell that maybe it

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01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:36,200
Speaker 2: wasn't their cut.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, any of that.

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01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:43,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, Ian, Roddy are executive producer.

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Speaker 3: Do you do you get what I'm getting at here?

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01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've I've felt I I've been in that spot

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01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 2: where I've had someone cut my hair and I wasn't

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Speaker 2: happy with it, so I went somewhere else and then

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01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 2: was even less happy, So I had to go back

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Speaker 2: to the original person. And I felt like I was

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Speaker 2: walking in with my tail between my legs without them

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Speaker 2: even knowing that I would have gone.

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Speaker 3: But because to Ian's point, I obviously think that they knew.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, because they can see it in like the uh,

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01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:13,240
Speaker 12: you know, the waves of your hair. I don't know

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Speaker 12: the terminology barber terminology or whatever, but I'm I'm the

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Speaker 12: same Dan, like I I grew up getting my haircut

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01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:23,840
Speaker 12: from from the same guy for years and then you know,

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01:54:23,960 --> 01:54:26,120
Speaker 12: I don't remember why, but but one day I did

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01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:27,920
Speaker 12: end up going to someone else. I don't know if

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Speaker 12: it was we we got back from a trip, or

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01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:32,640
Speaker 12: I was in another city or what. But but came

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01:54:32,720 --> 01:54:34,520
Speaker 12: back and he made a comment to me, not like

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Speaker 12: you know, he was mad at me, or everybody's like,

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Speaker 12: oh yeah, someone else cuts your hair this time. I'm like, yeah,

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01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:42,120
Speaker 12: but it is super awkward, more than I should.

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Speaker 3: It is their livelihood. And so I'm like, gosh, I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't put money in your pocket because I decided

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Speaker 2: to put it in someone else's pocket. And today, like

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Speaker 2: I felt I was cheating on someone. I got a

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Speaker 2: golf lesson. I had the same golfing guy that took

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Speaker 2: lessons from for fifteen years. Now I'm ben in about

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Speaker 2: a year and i'd maybe go like once or twice

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Speaker 2: a year. But I switched it up and the other

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Speaker 2: guy doesn't know. He may know now unfortunately, but there's

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Speaker 2: no offense to him. It just this guy was a

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Speaker 2: lot closer. He was at where I play a lot.

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Speaker 2: I knew the guy. I've known him for years and

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Speaker 2: even always talking, Yeah, I'll give you a lesson sometime,

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Speaker 2: and so I'm like, you know what my game needs it,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to do it. And so as great as

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Speaker 2: the lesson was, and it was a really good lesson,

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Speaker 2: really good tips, and I'll probably go back again. There's

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Speaker 2: a part of me that feels like I cheated on

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Speaker 2: the guy who gave me my lessons for like fifteen years.

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Speaker 12: Well, especially because it's been you know, like you said,

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Speaker 12: a year since your last one with the first guy,

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Speaker 12: so he's probably though, you know, okay, it's been a year.

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Speaker 12: I guess he's just not golfing. But now you've actually

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Speaker 12: had a lesson and it wasn't with him, so.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like I have an excuse, like I

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01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:57,560
Speaker 2: don't know if local would work, Ryan and you being like, well,

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01:55:57,560 --> 01:55:59,640
Speaker 2: this guy was closer, so I don't feel bad about it.

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Speaker 2: This guy was closer. He was just two exits down

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Speaker 2: my other one. I'm driving thirty minutes and going into

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01:56:06,280 --> 01:56:10,400
Speaker 2: the valley and going all these places. But I felt

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01:56:10,520 --> 01:56:13,000
Speaker 2: bad today and I don't think that I should. But

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01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:15,640
Speaker 2: it was just human nature and feeling bad, and I

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Speaker 2: think that.

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Speaker 4: Pretty bad that if you're going further, Yeah, that's pretty bad.

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Speaker 2: I just I feel that there are instances where it's

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Speaker 2: just combin nature. And I felt like Mechanic was another

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Speaker 2: like if someone always works on your car, and you're like, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna just take it to this other place, and

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Speaker 2: then you bring it back, You're like, what did they do?

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01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:34,800
Speaker 4: Well?

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01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:37,120
Speaker 3: Why would you go to that other place? I feel that.

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01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:41,080
Speaker 2: It's just a very very heavy situation that doesn't have

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Speaker 2: to be so heavy, but for whatever reason it is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, mechanic is a thing because they will ask you

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01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:52,080
Speaker 4: what's wrong. But for me that Barbara, like, I travel,

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01:56:52,240 --> 01:56:55,080
Speaker 4: so it's like I'm gone, I gotta get a haircut

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01:56:55,160 --> 01:56:57,200
Speaker 4: and I ain't paying for someone to travel with me,

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Speaker 4: so you gotta kind of get it cut where you are.

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Speaker 4: But I do get the other situations and if someone

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01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:09,240
Speaker 4: doesn't do a good job or you know, like I

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01:57:09,280 --> 01:57:12,440
Speaker 4: had a thing, you know with my pool guy, and

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Speaker 4: I didn't like the rate that he was given me

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Speaker 4: and then I found somewhat at better with a better rate,

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Speaker 4: and it was you know, I felt guilty saying it,

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Speaker 4: and then he goes, well I'll meet that price. In

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Speaker 4: my mindset, it's like, why couldn't he meet the price before?

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Speaker 4: And I ended up staying with him because I felt

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Speaker 4: bad from what he said.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, there is this this guilt and this price

2272
01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:38,840
Speaker 2: was was fine for me. It was the same neighborhood

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01:57:39,320 --> 01:57:41,920
Speaker 2: on what I would pay, and so I was I

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01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:43,880
Speaker 2: was good for. But there are there are things that

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01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:49,360
Speaker 2: you're connected to and some stuff that's maybe it's like

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01:57:49,400 --> 01:57:52,080
Speaker 2: a toxic relationship as well. Like you just I don't

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01:57:52,120 --> 01:57:53,720
Speaker 2: know how to get out of this. I don't know

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01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:54,880
Speaker 2: how to get out of this. I don't know how

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01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:56,480
Speaker 2: to go somewhere else. I think there was there was

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Speaker 2: a whole Seinfeld episode about it. There was, but there

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01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:03,080
Speaker 2: is there is something to it of breaking apart. I

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01:58:03,120 --> 01:58:07,680
Speaker 2: felt I felt like I cheated today. I didn't think

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01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 2: that I was alone. I think that to Ian's point,

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01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:12,840
Speaker 2: you could just be like or Ryan's point as well.

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01:58:13,320 --> 01:58:15,800
Speaker 2: I was traveling, we were on vacation, you.

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Speaker 3: Know that one.

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01:58:17,400 --> 01:58:19,760
Speaker 2: I went back to my hometown once and got a

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01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:22,360
Speaker 2: haircut from my old barber. So the person who cuts

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01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:24,520
Speaker 2: my hair out here, I said that. I said, hey,

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01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:26,400
Speaker 2: I went back to the to the guy who cut

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01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:27,680
Speaker 2: my hair forty years ago.

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01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:29,840
Speaker 3: And then it was a good story, like it.

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01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:32,680
Speaker 2: Was like, oh wow, that's great, you know that that

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01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:35,960
Speaker 2: sort of deal. But the point is I had to

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01:58:36,000 --> 01:58:38,880
Speaker 2: tell the whole story just to cure my guilt.

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01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:41,240
Speaker 12: You should just say that same story anytime you need

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01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:43,440
Speaker 12: to get another haircut, and that you know that it works.

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01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:45,880
Speaker 2: That's a good point. Yeah, I keep that one in

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01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:51,200
Speaker 2: the holster. All right, Game seven tomorrow, Warriors and Rockets.

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01:58:51,200 --> 01:58:53,520
Speaker 2: You'll be on the call for Rocket Stevie Ryan Allins.

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01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:56,160
Speaker 2: How does it play outs with the winner going on

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01:58:56,240 --> 01:58:59,040
Speaker 2: to face Minnesota in the Conference Semis?

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01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:05,160
Speaker 4: I think Houston wins because obviously the time and the

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01:59:05,200 --> 01:59:09,560
Speaker 4: injuries and the soreness and the quick travel. I think

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01:59:09,760 --> 01:59:11,680
Speaker 4: Golden State had to do so much just to get

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01:59:11,680 --> 01:59:13,640
Speaker 4: to this point. I think they do get worn down

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01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:17,000
Speaker 4: the young Rockets at home having a chance to feed

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01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:18,960
Speaker 4: off their home crowd. You saw what it looked like

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01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:21,360
Speaker 4: in Game five, so I think you're going to see

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01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:25,640
Speaker 4: something comparable to that. And Houston does an unbelievable job

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01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:29,040
Speaker 4: doing guarding Steph Curry. And if Steph Curry was kind

2312
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:31,440
Speaker 4: of having his way, I maybe would feel differently, but

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01:59:32,320 --> 01:59:34,680
Speaker 4: Houston doing a good job taking him out. And the

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01:59:34,760 --> 01:59:37,440
Speaker 4: question is who is the next person to step up?

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01:59:37,480 --> 01:59:39,720
Speaker 4: You know, Jimmy Butler can do his job, but they don't.

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01:59:40,040 --> 01:59:43,320
Speaker 4: They don't really have that third option. And Podjemski's doing

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01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:45,200
Speaker 4: a great job, but I don't think he's quite at

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01:59:45,200 --> 01:59:47,280
Speaker 4: the point in his career where, you know, he could

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01:59:47,280 --> 01:59:48,720
Speaker 4: take over to what would be needed.

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Speaker 2: You know, the Warriors won some close games against the

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01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:57,080
Speaker 2: Timberwolves this year, but I think Minnesota, Minnesota would rather

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01:59:57,120 --> 02:00:00,520
Speaker 2: see Golden State than see you and the Houston Rocke Goods.

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02:00:00,920 --> 02:00:01,960
Speaker 4: Well, just your opinion.

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02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:02,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

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02:00:02,920 --> 02:00:03,360
Speaker 4: It could be.

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02:00:03,320 --> 02:00:07,840
Speaker 3: Wrong, but is it. I think they would. It could

2327
02:00:07,880 --> 02:00:09,880
Speaker 3: be completely wrong, but we'll find out tomorrow.

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02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:11,800
Speaker 4: They'll go wrong about a lot of things.

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02:00:11,920 --> 02:00:15,120
Speaker 2: So are you, Ryan Hollins. But that's for another day.

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Speaker 2: We'll meet again. He's Ryan Hollins. I'm Dan Byert's Fox

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02:00:17,880 --> 02:00:18,560
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Have a great weekend.