WEBVTT - SYSK Selects: What Makes us Yawn?

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<v Speaker 1>M Hey everybody, it's me Josh, and for this week's

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<v Speaker 1>s Y s K Selects, I've chosen what makes us yawn?

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually a really good question about something everyone does,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet we don't really fully understand. After all of

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<v Speaker 1>these eons of people yawning and all these centuries of

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<v Speaker 1>science studying things like people yawning, we still can't explain

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<v Speaker 1>what yawning is. So buckle in and enjoy this episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Stuff You Should Know. Selex, Welcome to Stuff You

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<v Speaker 1>Should Know, a production of My Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with Charles W.

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Bryant. You're getting comfy. Yeah, okay, well you put

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<v Speaker 1>the two of us together, and this is Stuff you

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<v Speaker 1>Should Know the podcast. Frank was squeaking. I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>was in Frank. Was that Frank? Yeah? I was sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in Francine. Okay, sorry Francine squeaking, You are in Frank?

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<v Speaker 1>Who are you? Let's build a chair? Uh? People have

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<v Speaker 1>never heard this or like, what are they talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>They've already turned off. We name our chairs people then,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone he named cars, boats, and chairs. Yeah, a

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<v Speaker 1>surprising amount of people named chairs. If you don't, you

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<v Speaker 1>should be paranoid because people are talking about you. It's right, um, chuck, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever oscitated? I have, I've even uh pendiculated.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you pendiculated before? I pendiculate every morning? You know

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<v Speaker 1>what we we sound like? Um people running for the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate in nineteen fifties Florida. Yeah, there's like Florida has

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<v Speaker 1>a rich history of um like people running for political

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<v Speaker 1>office using technical terms for things that sound way worse

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<v Speaker 1>than they are to like smear their opponents. Really. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's this one guy who went and I can thank

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<v Speaker 1>Uncle John and his bathroom readers for um who went

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<v Speaker 1>after his opponent and said that his sister was a

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<v Speaker 1>thespian in New York and like all these people are

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<v Speaker 1>like boo boo. Yeah, and apparently like the smear campaign

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<v Speaker 1>was successful. That wasn't the only one, but this guy

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<v Speaker 1>used that a couple of couple of technical terms. We

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<v Speaker 1>should probably tell people what we're talking about, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>you said you pendiculate every morning, easily every morning, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is a what that is a yawn and a

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<v Speaker 1>stretch combined together. And as one of my favorite things

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<v Speaker 1>to do in the morning it is. Did you did

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<v Speaker 1>you see that painting of the It was a self portrait,

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<v Speaker 1>the artist's self portrait sounded like it was from like

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<v Speaker 1>the sixteenth or seventeenth century of him pendiculating. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>as awesome oil painting of this, you know, Renaissance man

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<v Speaker 1>stretching and yawning. Yeah. I love it because it feels

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<v Speaker 1>good and it uh, it ties me to my pets,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because like I see them do it, they

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<v Speaker 1>see me do it, and I'm kind of like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we all eat, we all pee and poop, and we

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<v Speaker 1>all pendiculate. My little cattle stretching yawn. My dogs will

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<v Speaker 1>stretching yawn, and I will stretching you. So do you

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<v Speaker 1>guys make one another stretching ya on? You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna start looking out for that because I have not

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<v Speaker 1>noticed that. But apparently yawning can be contagious to animals, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a fun little game you can do jogs supposedly

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<v Speaker 1>chimps for sure, but probably not cats, I don't know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just because it's not in here doesn't mean it's not true. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a fun little game. You complain the next time

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<v Speaker 1>you're hanging out with people if you feel like manipulating

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<v Speaker 1>them on a biological level, Um, just yawn and just

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<v Speaker 1>start paying attention to how many people yawn as a result,

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<v Speaker 1>and it should start some sort of chain reaction among

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<v Speaker 1>maybe of the people, because that's the that's the statistic

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<v Speaker 1>of how many human adults yawn in reaction to seeing

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<v Speaker 1>somebody on, seeing video of somebody on, hearing about somebody yawning,

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<v Speaker 1>reading about yawning, Like how many times did you yawn

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<v Speaker 1>while you read this article? A bunch? And people will

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<v Speaker 1>probably yawn while listening to this, Supposedly it's pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>impossible not to. Yeah, do you ever? This just really

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<v Speaker 1>shows how deeply disturbed I am. I will not I

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<v Speaker 1>will suppress or cover up a yawn if someone else

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<v Speaker 1>has made me on sometimes just so I don't give

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<v Speaker 1>them the satisfaction. Oh yeah, I've done that before. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, no, I'm not like just some stranger

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<v Speaker 1>on an elevator. They'll yawn and I'll just be like, Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>not me, buddy. One of those people who don't realize that,

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<v Speaker 1>like they're they're just your mortal enemy for no real

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<v Speaker 1>good reason, when in fact they really don't even know exists, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like some guys on the elevator, right, So yawning

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<v Speaker 1>is involuntary. Um, And I've seen a range of of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks that a fetus has been observed yawning from eleven

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty and uh, that sort of disproves one of

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<v Speaker 1>the well many things, disproves one of the theories, which

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<v Speaker 1>is that we yawned to oxygenate ourselves. Yeah, because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people think that fetus is um, breathe amniotic

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<v Speaker 1>fluid in the womb, and that is absolutely not true.

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<v Speaker 1>The oxygen to the umbilical cord. Yeah, so they're not

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<v Speaker 1>clearly not yawning to oxygenate themselves. Right, And we'll debunk

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<v Speaker 1>that with other things in a minute. Sure, Um, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's still it is a little bit of a mystery though, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the other the other ideas for why we yawned don't

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<v Speaker 1>really hold up in the fetus either. It feels like

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<v Speaker 1>that's where the key to the mystery of yawning is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be found in. All right, should we go

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<v Speaker 1>there over some theories and well, hold on, first, you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's involuntary. I found this one thing, Chuck, that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a type of paralysis like a lesion on the

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<v Speaker 1>brain where you can still if you yawn, you still pendiculate,

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<v Speaker 1>So like you're paralyzed arm. If you yawn deep enough,

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<v Speaker 1>will will raise, will rise. Yeah, pretty weird. Huh. There's

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<v Speaker 1>only been a few cases of it over like the

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<v Speaker 1>last hundred and fifty years, but it's been documented in

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<v Speaker 1>a number of different places. Yeah, but that is such

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<v Speaker 1>a surprise. Yeah, seriously, they're like, can I be tired

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<v Speaker 1>more often? Um So when you yawn, just physiologically speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna open your mouth. You're going to suck in

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<v Speaker 1>air into your lungs. I read one place that you

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<v Speaker 1>your eyes usually close. They did this big study and

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<v Speaker 1>found that most time your eyes closed. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's like all the time. You know that's sneezing

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<v Speaker 1>you're thinking of. No, they did a study on on

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<v Speaker 1>the eyes of the yawner. Well that's part of the

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<v Speaker 1>yawn too, as far as um queues go, Like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just the mouth opening your eyes quint. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I found like the really good deep yawn, um, my

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<v Speaker 1>eyes will generally close. So you're gonna flex your your abs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good workout. It's gonna put your dye for RAM down.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna fill your lungs with air and then exhale

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<v Speaker 1>and that as a yawn stretch, you're pendiculating. UM. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>parts of your brain become active, right. UM. Basically what

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<v Speaker 1>happens when all of this, when you go through all

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<v Speaker 1>this process, a bunch of neurotransmitters and dopamine are activated.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is why a guy named Robert Provine thinks well.

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<v Speaker 1>He says that, UM, yawns are basically a part of

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<v Speaker 1>a change from one state of arousal to another. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like I was asleep, now I'm awake, or I was

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<v Speaker 1>I was alert, now on board, or I was like

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<v Speaker 1>just ho hum, and now I'm like in the mood

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<v Speaker 1>because there you can yawn when you're sexually aroused. So

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<v Speaker 1>that mood, YEA, the mood, the mood, the Glenn Miller mood.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they had to call it back then, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we have to call it today on this

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<v Speaker 1>family friendly podcast. UM. What's going on to is physiologically speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>as we are distributing UM, something called the surfactant, which

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<v Speaker 1>sounds gross and it kind of is. It's a wedding agent. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>To cote al violi in the lungs. Um. But are

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<v Speaker 1>they saying that's what happens or that's why it happens,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what happens. Okay, they're not saying the reason is

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<v Speaker 1>to cope the alboli with surfact then, right, it could be.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, for all we know. No, we still have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what function yawning provides. Same with the the

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<v Speaker 1>yawning as a symbol of arousal or is a sign

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<v Speaker 1>of arousal. They think that it's really just a byproduct

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<v Speaker 1>of it, you know. Okay, but it explains why people

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<v Speaker 1>who are nervous or dogs. I'm sure you've seen dogs

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<v Speaker 1>who are nervous and they yawn and like that really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of weird, unsettling ways when they're super worked up. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and humans too, you know, like people will yawn when

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<v Speaker 1>they're nervous. It's it's it's it's a sign that you're

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<v Speaker 1>in a state of arousal. And what that state of

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<v Speaker 1>arousal is depends on the situation. Yeah. They point to

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<v Speaker 1>Olympians who yawned before like a race, and um, which

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<v Speaker 1>Poopoo's one theory that we're going to get to the theory.

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<v Speaker 1>So we just get to the theories. Let's get to

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<v Speaker 1>the theory. Poops. That theory though, that you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be bored or you have to be sleepy retired. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>like that. There's the boredom theory, and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>been pretty fully shot down just by you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>casual observation. There's also the physiological theory, which is that

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<v Speaker 1>this is the one that I'd always heard when I

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<v Speaker 1>was younger, like, why are you yawned? Is because you

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<v Speaker 1>needed your oxygen deprived or you have an abundance of

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<v Speaker 1>carbon dioxide. So you're drawing in a bunch of oxygen

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<v Speaker 1>and like putting out a bunch of carbon dioxide. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why you're yawned. And provine or provine that you mentioned. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he tested this one right, Yeah, pretty simply. He just said, okay, well, um,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just give some athletes a bunch of oxygen and

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<v Speaker 1>see if they um, if they breathe, if they yawn

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<v Speaker 1>any less than they didn't. He also um increased the

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<v Speaker 1>carbon dioxide in the ambient air and people still kept yawning. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so that one's gold, but they didn't yawn anymore. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so we can put that to bed. Yeah. Plus also

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<v Speaker 1>there was a terrible um hy proof associated with that

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<v Speaker 1>hypothesis that that explains why people yawning groups, because when

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<v Speaker 1>you have a big group, more carbon dioxide and less oxygen,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's like you're all fighting over the oxygen. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you're there yawning. Yeah, whoever can yawn the deepest lives?

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't sound right. Evolution UM could play a part.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people think that maybe we used to yawn took

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<v Speaker 1>took Wood yawn to bare his teeth to intimidate folks

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<v Speaker 1>around him UM, or that it developed as a signal.

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<v Speaker 1>Took Took would give a signal to his mates that hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta we're hunting now and we need to go

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<v Speaker 1>now gather would so I will yawn to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that like pre speech, right, Yeah, like a bird turning

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<v Speaker 1>if the whole flock. Yeah, that makes a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of sense, But I still don't believe that one. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with the brain cooling theory. That's like the most recent

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<v Speaker 1>one and it seems to be the one that people

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<v Speaker 1>are subscribing to. Ye. Scientists generally are leaning toward the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that UM, when our brains are warmer, yawning might

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<v Speaker 1>cool it down in A cool brain is a more whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>a better brain. I guess I should say I just

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<v Speaker 1>better for thinking I just yawned, did you I did? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see it. Well, I covered my mouth. You

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<v Speaker 1>might have thought I was purpening. I think I did. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So the brain cooling theory, that's the one that most

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<v Speaker 1>people think is lately, that's the that's the explanation to

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<v Speaker 1>your yeah, um. And there's another piece of research that

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<v Speaker 1>people are going into that um is the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>contagious yawning is the result of empathy, right, that you

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<v Speaker 1>that you empathize, The more you empathize with other people,

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<v Speaker 1>the more susceptible you are contagious yawning. And we said

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<v Speaker 1>earlier that like I think of human adults, UM are

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<v Speaker 1>susceptible to contagious yawning, right, which the MythBusters confirmed by

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<v Speaker 1>the way. Okay, so there is some sort of link

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<v Speaker 1>between what we perceive his empathy and the susceptibility to yawning.

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<v Speaker 1>When you see somebody else yawning or reading about yawning

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, I wonder if it's like a boy, that

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<v Speaker 1>guy's tired and just let me make him feel better. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the pro vine again, he's like really into yawning research. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He he has done m r I scans where he

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<v Speaker 1>shows I guess pictures of people yawning or talked about

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<v Speaker 1>yawning and you know they yawn um. And when they do,

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<v Speaker 1>he says that mere neurons go off friends, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>are our mere neurons are activated when you see somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else yawn? And apparently that triggers the yawn. But people

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<v Speaker 1>take it a step further in this quest to prove

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<v Speaker 1>that empathy and contagious yawning are you know, want work

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<v Speaker 1>hand in hand and saying, well, then people with autism

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<v Speaker 1>that that they shouldn't be able to to be susceptible

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<v Speaker 1>to contagious yawning, right, because they're known to have less empathy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they had trouble connecting with others or um, they have

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<v Speaker 1>trouble developing what's called the theory of mind about other people. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And there have been a lot of studies about whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not people who are people who have autism are contagious?

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<v Speaker 1>Is too susceptible the contagious yawning? Yeah, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's been proven, not proven, but at least. The data

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<v Speaker 1>says that the more, uh, the the stronger your autism,

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<v Speaker 1>the less you will yawn, even though uh they will

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<v Speaker 1>yawn when someone is pretending to yawn. Was that what

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<v Speaker 1>it was? Yeah? I think it said that, Um, when

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<v Speaker 1>they're watching video of people just moving their mouths, then

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<v Speaker 1>non autistic kids yawned more than kids with autism when

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<v Speaker 1>it was really yawning. Does that make sense? Yes, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on before we get to that, um, because this

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<v Speaker 1>is like a whole thing to me, the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>if you have autism you're not susceptible and contagious yawning.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's first I have a message break from our sponsor. Okay, Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>So I believe we were talking about autism and yawning,

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<v Speaker 1>which is I just learned a thing for you. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you said that there was. Um. They have found that

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<v Speaker 1>if you have been diagnosed with autism, you're less likely

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<v Speaker 1>to be susceptible and contagious yawning. And they found that

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<v Speaker 1>the higher on the autism spectrum you fall, the less

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<v Speaker 1>lucky would you would even be right? Yeah, which would

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<v Speaker 1>suggest that there is that link because they've tied there

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<v Speaker 1>there's a link between uh, empathy and an autism and

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<v Speaker 1>empathy and contagious yawning. So this autism and studying kids

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<v Speaker 1>with autism is kind of like the fulcrum. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it just seems to me to be kind of Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't I don't buy all the

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<v Speaker 1>studies that have been carried out. Another studies kind of contradicted,

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<v Speaker 1>like they other studies have shown that like kids with

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<v Speaker 1>autism focus on people's mouths rather than their eyes, So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they're missing the cue. Member. We said that your

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<v Speaker 1>eyes scrunch, so like a yawn is not just people

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<v Speaker 1>opening their mouths. It has all these other facial characteristics

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<v Speaker 1>that might trigger a yawn and another person. So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>kids with autism are simply missing that. So you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the data could be skewed by other factors. It

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<v Speaker 1>could be plus. I just remember when I wrote this

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<v Speaker 1>article like years back, I was kind of like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it seems just slightly off, like, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>got a good gut though, Well thanks man, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>working on it so bad. Um Well, we should also

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<v Speaker 1>mention too that this goes back a long way, like

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<v Speaker 1>I believe was it Hippocrates? Yeah, was the first person

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<v Speaker 1>to start sort of postulating ideas, and he was like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he thought it was fever related, like sickness. It could

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<v Speaker 1>help cure you. So I got a fever and the

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<v Speaker 1>only prescription is more yawning. That's why here's the father

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<v Speaker 1>of medicine. That's right, because he was the first guy

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<v Speaker 1>to just start saying stuff. But you know that was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty quickly disproven. Right. But um, the idea that yawning

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<v Speaker 1>has something to do with um increasing our alertness and awareness,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of one of the current views of yawning.

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<v Speaker 1>Um that dates back to the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well it increases your heart rate during inhalation only um,

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<v Speaker 1>not during uh the I think it it It increases

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<v Speaker 1>and then levels off and then just drops back down

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<v Speaker 1>to the more pretty quickly, I got you. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>up to like thirty beats per minute increase. Right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I read a real heavy article on this study that

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<v Speaker 1>really just made my eyes cross. But that was a

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<v Speaker 1>long and short of it. Right, But that's one that

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<v Speaker 1>dealt with the eyes, Like they really measured all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. Uh. And when we said that fetus is

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<v Speaker 1>from eleven to twenty weeks of development yawn in utero

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<v Speaker 1>and did you see any of like the four d

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<v Speaker 1>ultrasounds of fetus? Is yawning? Is it adorable? It's pretty cute,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also weird at the same time because they're

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<v Speaker 1>not fully developed. It's it's like, oh you, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a little baby platypus kind of um, but you have

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<v Speaker 1>to be around age four before you um can Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're susceptible the contagious yawning. Yeah, it's there, any way

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<v Speaker 1>to put it besides susceptible the contagious yawning, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think so. Do you feel like you've said that like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot and I've had trouble with it every time. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>There's another couple of researchers who a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>um Andrew Gallup and Omar Tansi Elda car H. They

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<v Speaker 1>found that outside temperature could affect the amount of yawning.

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<v Speaker 1>So if it's warmer than usual, then you're gonna yawn

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<v Speaker 1>less frequently because um. Their explanation is the outside air

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<v Speaker 1>is useless to the organism because it doesn't need to

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<v Speaker 1>suck in more oxygen. I don't get how the temperture

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<v Speaker 1>would affect that though. Well, if it's warmer temperature and

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<v Speaker 1>you're using the cooler air to cool your brain, if

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<v Speaker 1>it's warmer than the temperature of your brain, then okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes sense. Yeah all right. Well they had other

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<v Speaker 1>tests though, that's that showed that the amount of yawning

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<v Speaker 1>increase both when outside temperature and the temperature of the

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<v Speaker 1>brain increase. Yeah, it's all over the place. No, no

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<v Speaker 1>one knows anything about yawning except Robert Provine, the foremost

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<v Speaker 1>leading authority. Well, well he's proven that like seeing your

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<v Speaker 1>hearing about somebody yawning, it triggers your mirror neurons. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think somebody should do a documentary on these people

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<v Speaker 1>that become obsessed with yawns. No, just like a certain

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<v Speaker 1>small thing. So you're yawning right now? Um, And that

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<v Speaker 1>was unsatisfying because you made me laugh in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of it. I think like fast, cheap and out of control.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about it before. Errol Morris's documentary sort of

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<v Speaker 1>did that, but that was about like studying naked mole

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<v Speaker 1>rats or lion taming or um what's it called when

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<v Speaker 1>you clip the hedges in diopiary gardening. But someone they

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<v Speaker 1>should do things that are even more like mundane, like

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<v Speaker 1>this dude that has dedicated as life to yawning. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think they'd be interesting, Like what drives provine? Figure

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<v Speaker 1>this out? When it really doesn't matter, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying? Well, I don't know, because and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just yawning. He he frequently is cited as a yawning expert.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an evolutionary biologist. Okay, so like, but yawning, since

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<v Speaker 1>it's involuntary, and since you find it in all vertebrates,

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of gives some peek into our evolutionary past. Plus,

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<v Speaker 1>he probably just loves a good mystery. Sure, he had

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<v Speaker 1>a great quote too. We were talking how arousal yawning

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<v Speaker 1>is a is a byproduct of a state of arousal.

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<v Speaker 1>He was saying that he believes that um, yawns and

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<v Speaker 1>orgasms share a neurobehavioral heritage. Yeah, so, like they're possibly

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<v Speaker 1>rooted in the same behavior. Like remember you said it yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>when you pendiculate feels good, same, you know with the orgasm. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I've heard those feel great, right, So possibly if

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<v Speaker 1>you trace the lineage of this behavior back far enough,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd see like, oh, they both came from when humans

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<v Speaker 1>juice to stub their toe. They thought it was awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the things diverged into these two things interesting

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<v Speaker 1>into uh, yawning and what happens when you're in the

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<v Speaker 1>mood the Glenn Miller mood. Right, Ah, you got anything else? No, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that is yawning forever until somebody figures it out. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a mystery. Yeah, and I kind of like it like that,

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, I think it's it's so

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<v Speaker 1>amorphous that there's no no one has a clue. Like

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes we've talked about stuff that science couldn't fully explain,

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<v Speaker 1>but we almost always like pick a theory, like this

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<v Speaker 1>is the one. It just hasn't been proven yet, right,

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<v Speaker 1>this one. I don't feel like we did that, Like

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<v Speaker 1>we both like the brain cooling one, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of discarded. Yeah, and I'm definitely gonna keep an

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<v Speaker 1>eye on my pets, um, But then I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if like, can you induce that just by noticing more,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know what I'm saying, or maybe what

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do is I'll watch Emily around the pets so

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<v Speaker 1>no one's in on it. Just be careful, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>accidentally change their behavior just by observing it's Buckley farts

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<v Speaker 1>every time he stretches too. And see that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see if Emily farts while she andiculates, right, that'll

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<v Speaker 1>be the death's nice. Um. So okay, I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you guys want to learn more about yawning, you can

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for listener mail. Uh, not quite yet, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>about Rodriguez. So oh yeah, yeah, okay, all right, so

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<v Speaker 1>this is a time for message break, okay, and no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for listener mail. Huh yes, And I already

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<v Speaker 1>gave it away because I wanted people to stick around

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<v Speaker 1>for this and it is called I hang Out with Rodriguez.

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<v Speaker 1>So we mentioned Rodriguez, the singer songwriter from the sixties who,

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<v Speaker 1>unbeknownst to him, was a huge, huge hit in South America.

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<v Speaker 1>And no, South Africa, what did I say, South American?

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<v Speaker 1>It's such an idiot now South Africa. And then like

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<v Speaker 1>down there once on the left ones on the right

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<v Speaker 1>and then later in Australia and um so we covered

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<v Speaker 1>that in our Apartheide podcast and you can see the

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<v Speaker 1>documentary searching for Sugarman's Super Interesting. Which one best documentary

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<v Speaker 1>this year? Right? Yeah? Yeah? Have you seen How to

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<v Speaker 1>Survive a Plague? That was up for Best Picture too,

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<v Speaker 1>best Documentary? Yes, it was a good Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>really good. Um it was. It's about the early gay

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<v Speaker 1>like AIDS awareness movement and like it's just what they

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<v Speaker 1>were up against. His mind boggling, you know, like that

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<v Speaker 1>society was just kind of like, no, God's punishing you.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck with it, pal, jeez. Yeah, it was really something.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw our friends Steward of Superhuman Happiness. Who are

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<v Speaker 1>they're fans of the show. He scored the soundtrack. Oh nice,

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<v Speaker 1>he did a really good job with it too. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to check that out. Um. I saw another trailer

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<v Speaker 1>the other day for a documentary about this family of

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<v Speaker 1>Jews who hid in a underground for a year and

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<v Speaker 1>a half during World War Two and they never told

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<v Speaker 1>their story because they didn't think anyone believe it. In

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<v Speaker 1>this caving cave diver not cave diver, caving guy found

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<v Speaker 1>these human objects and traced them back to this family

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<v Speaker 1>and they came out like the surviving ones, like told

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<v Speaker 1>their story of his amazing it's called No Place on Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, it's coming out soon. It looks awesome. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go, everybody. We like to recommend documentaries around here. Okay, Rodriguez, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so fun to hear you talk about Rodriguez because

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<v Speaker 1>I've known him a little bit here and there. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad he's getting recognition. And here's a story about the

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<v Speaker 1>first day I met him. September two thousand seven, I

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<v Speaker 1>moved into a one year old apartment building in the

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<v Speaker 1>Cast Corridor neighborhood of Detroit. It was a bar across

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<v Speaker 1>the street called the Bronx, and after getting moved in,

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<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend and I went over there, had a night

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<v Speaker 1>of celebrating and talking with some old and new friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Our friend Dale pointed out this dude wearing all black

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<v Speaker 1>with sunglasses on, said, you know, Rodriguez, that guy over

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<v Speaker 1>there is bigger than Elvis in South Africa and Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't understand the gravity of a statement at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>but being friendly people, we talked late into the night

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<v Speaker 1>with Dale and Rodriguez the bar clothes. We decided to

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<v Speaker 1>walk back across the street to our new apartment, and

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<v Speaker 1>Rodriguez followed us out with his guitar and toe. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very quiet out about three in the morning. The apartment

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<v Speaker 1>building was you shaped, with a big courtyard in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle and low lighting. It was really beautiful. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a single picnic table and we sat there on it,

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<v Speaker 1>talking more and more. Rodriguez pulled out a pint of brandy,

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<v Speaker 1>offered us some and then asked if we wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>hear his new song, saying he had just written it

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<v Speaker 1>the other day. He said sure because he seemed so

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly excited about it. He played the song for us

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<v Speaker 1>and played it again, which I thought was interesting. He

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<v Speaker 1>played it twice, So did you like that? You want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear it again? Wait before you answer, let me

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<v Speaker 1>play it a second time. Uh. And then we talked

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<v Speaker 1>some more about music and love and he played it

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<v Speaker 1>once again. No way, I guess he played it three times. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw many many times over the next few years

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<v Speaker 1>and met his middle daughter as well. He'll played the

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<v Speaker 1>same song every time. But I'll never forget sitting under

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<v Speaker 1>the stag stars all alone with him in a majestic

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<v Speaker 1>old Detroit courtyard giving my boyfriend and me a private

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<v Speaker 1>concert of a single song. That's cool played Thrice in

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<v Speaker 1>passing the Cheap Brandy. He really is. It's kind and

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<v Speaker 1>happy of a soul, as the movie says, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>When you watch Churching for sugar Man, you can see

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of people talking to the Bronx bar and

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<v Speaker 1>even see my old apartment in the background. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>I see you guys soon, Love Julia. Well, thanks Julia.

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<v Speaker 1>Hat tipped to you for being aware of the word Thrice,

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<v Speaker 1>and for um, I guess waiting out the storm in Detroit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and for listening to that song three times like very

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<v Speaker 1>patient understanding with the smile plastered on your face the

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<v Speaker 1>last time, Like yeah, very cool memory, I imagine. Yeah. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>famous singer, songwriter, filmmaker. Anybody remember the guy who hung

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<v Speaker 1>out with Henry Hill and became like really disenchanted as

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