WEBVTT - The Blueprint | EP 2 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:02.760 Hi, Curse Up listeners, I know you miss me on 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:05.560 your feed. Don't worry. We're working on an all new 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:08.520 season of Curse Of coming out later this year. In 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:11.879 the meantime, if you can't stop thinking about the shocking 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:15.320 stories you heard about America's Next Top Model, you'll definitely 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:18.320 want to check out our new docuseries from E Dirty 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.840 Rotten Scandals. In the series, you'll hear from the America's 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:24.319 Next Top Model participants you heard from on Curse Of, 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:27.240 and a few you didn't like former A and TM 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:32.080 judge Janis Dickinson. Dirty Rotten Scandals unveils the dark underbelly 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:35.159 of the long running TV series through the untold stories 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:38.519 of former contestants, and shows what happens when a golden 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:43.640 opportunity for aspiring models unravels into a harrowing saga of exploitation, 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:47.560 shattered dreams, and resilience. You can find the two part 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:51.919 docuseries Dirty Rotten Scandals America's Next Top Model on E Network. 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:54.120 Check your local TV provider schedule. 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:57.760 Would Adrian and Shannon come in? Please? 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:01.240 It's July eighth, two thousand and three, and America's Next 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:04.200 Top Model is about to crown its first ever winner. 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:06.440 The judges have reached a decision. 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:09.160 One of you is about to be a star. 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.720 After weeks of watching ten, then nine, then eight, and 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:16.920 finally the last two women be transformed into POI supermodels. 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:19.840 The most deserving young woman was about to have all 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:20.960 her dreams come true. 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:24.240 Let me remind you what's at stake. A contract with Revlin, 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:29.200 a fashion spread in Marie Claire magazine, and representation by 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:31.839 top modeling agency Will and Minas. 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:35.960 The two finalists, Adrian Curry and Shannon Stewart, were standing 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:40.119 there because they desperately wanted to become top models. They were, 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:43.920 of course both tall, thin and pretty, but Shannon, with 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.959 her blue eyes, blonde hair, and tan skin, had a 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:51.080 more obvious beauty that gave all American supermodel. Adrian, with 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.400 her pale skin and dark hair, had a more gothic look, 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:58.280 a bit like our early two thousands Angelina Joli minus Phillips. 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:02.680 Shannon and Adrian, We're both so young eighteen and twenty. 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:06.920 Shannon had never traveled without her family before, and for Adrian, 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:09.960 this opportunity was her ticket out of a small dead 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:10.560 in town. 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:16.760 The winner's picture is hanging behind me, and when the 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:21.040 cloth is dropped, it will reveal who will be America's 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:22.320 next Top Model. 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.359 They had no idea the show they had just spent 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:29.840 nine weeks filming would launch a global phenomenon. 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:34.480 The decision is made, America's next Top Model is. 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:47.360 Adrian, But after the cameras went down, Adrian would become 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:50.000 the first contestant to fall victim to the Curse of 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:51.280 America's Next Top Model. 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.360 She thought when she stepped off that set she was 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:57.840 stepping into a career as a top model with a 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:01.320 beauty contract an agency representation to give her a head start, 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:06.280 But those prizes never materialized, and neither did her modeling career. 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:13.720 I want to be on some Welcome to the Curse 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:24.800 of America's Next Top Model. I'm Bridget Armstrong. For a 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.680 lot of A and TM fans, Cycle one was just 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.160 address or her as well. They say the show didn't 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.600 really get good until season two, but cycle one was 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:37.160 the blueprint for what A and TM eventually became. So 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:40.040 on this episode, we're going back to the origins to 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:43.640 explore how this low budget Tyra Banks passion project became 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:47.120 a cultural phenomenon. We'll talk about how the season came 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:50.600 together and explore how from the very beginning, the show's 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:55.400 popularity overshadowed the body shaming, manipulation and false promises. A 0:03:55.480 --> 0:04:00.760 and TM was built on Adrian's win in cycle helped 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:04.040 launch the top model machine that grew into a global franchise. 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:08.160 The problem is it didn't produce a top model in 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:11.640 these days. Adrian has been very candid about the show 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:14.400 failing to live up to its promises. Here she is 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:16.920 talking from an interview with in Touch Weekly in twenty 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:17.400 twenty two. 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.640 It's certainly not a show that anyone in the fashion 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.320 industry wants to touch you if you bet on it 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.599 and season one, you don't know that that we knew 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:30.200 as much as Kelly Clarkson knew going into American Idol. 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:35.039 But unlike Kelly Clarkson, Adrian didn't become a superstar. She 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:38.520 didn't sell eighty seven million records or win three Grammys. 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:42.040 She certainly doesn't have a talk show. Adrian's an avon 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:45.520 lady living in rural Montana, and according to her, she 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:49.320 never got that Revlin deal and the Wilhelmina contract was 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:53.200 an empty promise. She says the agents completely ignored her. 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:57.240 In fact, once she left the show, she discovered that 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:00.520 no one in the modeling world took her seriously when 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:03.800 it came to fashion. America's Next Top Model wasn't a 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:09.839 leg up. It was a black mark. From the beginning, 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:13.760 the show seemed to prioritize making great TV, not great models. 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:16.680 But that may not have been Tyra's goal at first. 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:19.800 So let's pick back up where we left Tyra before 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:24.680 she even had a team or models to disappoint. Once 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:28.120 America's Next Top Model was greenlit, upn wanted to start 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:31.880 production almost immediately, and for the first season they gave 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:35.920 them a tire budget of five hundred thousand dollars per episode. 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.400 Now that might sound like a lot of money, but 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.600 Top Model is an expensive show to make. There are 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:44.360 at least ten models who have to be housed, an 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:48.479 international trip, ten on location photoshoots, and ten challenges that 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.000 all have to be paid for, as well as a 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:54.360 full production crew, makeup artists and stylists, a panel of 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.919 judges and experts, and Tyra Banks herself who all have 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:00.720 to be paid to put it into cond text. By 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:04.360 cycle ten, the episode budget was well over one million dollars. 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.400 To make cycle one work, they had to find a 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:10.719 cast and crew quickly, so Tyra called in some favors 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.760 people who would do the show not for a big paycheck, 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:18.359 but for Tyra. She was friends with former model and 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.760 Babyfat director Komoralie Simmons, so she got her to be 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.680 a judge on cycle one. Also joining the panel of 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.760 judges was Boquillian, who at the time was the fashion 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.440 editor at Marie Claire, the magazine that would give the 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.880 winner a spread. And of course, rounding out the panel 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:40.040 was supermodel excuse me, the first supermodel, Janis Dickinson, and 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.480 that's literally how they introduced her on the first episode. 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:45.800 Janis became one of the world's first supermodels in the 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:49.440 nineteen seventies and her face was featured everywhere and had. 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:52.360 Been in this industry for quite a long time, making 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:55.720 me probably the most opinionated person on the panel. 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:56.800 All right, next we have four. 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:00.479 Jannis became known for her less than gracious opinions, but 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.320 according to her, she was just doing her job. Here 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.520 she is in twenty twenty two talking about her role 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:07.600 on the show. When I was hired to do America's 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:09.960 Next Top Model, Tyra hired me to be like a 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:14.480 female Simon Cowell to be feeding in a negative fashion 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.960 things about the girls, and as we know, Janie did 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.440 her job well, maybe too well. 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:22.120 There's so many teeth in her mouth. 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.520 I mean it's like maybe she should have a few removed. 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:26.880 Got to work on the side that the booty thing 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:27.760 your ass was. 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:29.440 Going, you know, wiggle walk and wig walk. 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:34.760 Escathing vitriolic judge check. Next, they needed some fashion experts 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:39.360 to transform these scrinny confused teenagers into supermodels. So Tyra 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.520 brought in somebody who trained her when she was a 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:42.360 squarnny teenager. 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.600 I have the one and the only top runway trainer. 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:46.600 I have known him. 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.240 Since I was seventeen years old. 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:53.560 His name is Jay Alexander. Come on, Jay Alexander or 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.280 Miss Jay was well known in the industry is the 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.600 go to person to teach young models how to slay 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.280 the runway, and two thousand and three it was a 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.920 big deal to feature a queer black man who went 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:07.400 by miss on a mainstream show, and from the beginning, 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:12.000 Miss j was his authentic, fabulous self. On episode two, 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.320 he taught the girls how to walk while wearing nothing 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.480 but a black shirt, drawls and heels. 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:20.080 Jay walked out a little black like underwear something in 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:20.960 high heels. 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:23.680 Jay's legs look a lot better than mine. 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.640 New So yeah, my motto is walk like it's for 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:28.080 sale and the rent is due tonight. 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:32.120 Next there was Jay Mayuel or Mister j. He eventually 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:35.040 became a judge in the show's creative director, but on 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.800 cycle one he first appeared as the makeup artist on 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:41.199 the makeover episode. Here he is wiping away a lot 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:42.240 of dramatic tears. 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:43.440 Don't look so sad. 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:45.400 Models are canvases. 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:49.120 Yeah, they're canvas and they're also chameleons. 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:50.040 Wow. 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.520 This was before Jay's iconic silver hair. He was still 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:57.640 a brunette here. So they had their judges, they had 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:01.199 their Jay's and now they needed their model. They began 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:04.800 a nationwide search, and despite not knowing what this was 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.440 going to be, young women showed up and sent in 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:11.240 their audition tape. At least one contestant was cast the 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:16.520 Fairytale Way literally at Disneyland. Jazelle Sampson was working as 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.120 a dancer at Disney where her coworker approached her. 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:20.320 It came up to me, he was like, what are 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:20.839 you doing here? 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:24.880 You should be modeling, And then he said something that 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:26.920 would change Jazelle's life Forever. 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:30.120 My ex girlfriend. She's in casting, and there's the show 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:35.080 called Supermodels. Originally it was called Supermodels, or maybe that 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:36.600 was the alias that they were using. 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.840 She gave her coworker her head shot. He passed it 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:41.720 along to his ex who was working and casting for 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.640 a and m Jazelle didn't hear anything for a while. 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:47.240 Then a few months later she got a call about 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:48.200 that Supermodel show. 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.440 And I got the phone call on New Year's Eve Eve, 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:55.040 December thirtieth of two thousand and two. They were like, hey, 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.840 can you come in right now and meet with our producers. 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:02.880 I literally changed, got in my car, went to CBS 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:07.040 Studios in office and I walked in and I was just, 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.120 you know, thinking I was just going to meet a 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:12.160 couple of producers, and then there was Tyra Banks sitting 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:13.520 right there in front of my facet. 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.840 As I've heard over and over on the first seasons, 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:22.680 Tyra was extremely involved in every aspect of production, including casting. 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.000 Do Thelle remembers Tyra asking her to lift up her 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.400 shirt to show her stomach. She wanted her to do 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:31.920 a runway walk right there in between the cubicles. The 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:33.960 idea terrified her. 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:37.760 I freaked out. I freaked out, and I was like, 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:40.360 I'm gonna lose the opportunity. I started crying. She was like, 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:43.400 oh my god, that's probably what got me WHA. I 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.400 started crying because I was so self conscious because I 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.960 have s curve scoliosis, and so I had a total breakdown. 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.040 And she was like, oh my gosh, girl, we all 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.440 were tall, we all have that. Don't worry about it. 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:57.680 And I was like, okay, cool. So she boosted my 0:10:57.720 --> 0:10:59.880 confidence at the time, and so I did my thing. 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.560 You know what. Gazelle might have a point about her 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:07.559 breakdown getting her cast. Her entire storyline was focused on 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:11.600 her supposed lack of confidence and her callback. Tyra asked 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.840 Aazil one more thing, how she would feel if she 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:16.480 became famous. 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:22.839 I lost my shit again, and I just started crying 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:26.320 because I could just I got this overwhelming like sense 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.319 of like this is my time, this is a sign, 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:32.240 like I'm going to be famous now, like this is it. 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:36.120 Gazelle, like many women I've talked to, thought this was 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:40.800 her big break, that she had been discovered. The next day, 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:44.360 casting director Michelle Mock, no relation to ep Kin, Mock 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:47.520 called Gazil they wanted her to come back in for 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:49.439 a meeting with the network Exis. 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:51.800 She was like, I'm going to drive you, so I 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:53.920 got in her car. I was like, oh my gosh, 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:56.400 casting doctors, Deere me and he Mercedes Matins and all 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:57.079 that stuff. 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:01.720 The meeting didn't take long. Afterwards, Michelle Mack came up 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:02.400 to her and. 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.880 Said, I'm so sorry, but you're gonna have to figure 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:08.120 out how to get warm clothes because you're going to 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:11.520 New York in four days. And within twenty four hours 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:12.439 I got the gig. 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.360 Just want to point out Dazell made it onto the 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:19.320 show because she knew a guy who knew a guy. 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:22.559 In later seasons, thousands of people would show up to 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.640 casting calls and waiting lines for hours for a small 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:30.080 possibility of just being seen. Jazelle's casting happened so fast 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:33.480 she wasn't even prepared. She didn't have a passport, a 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:35.760 requirement in case she stayed on the show long enough 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:38.079 for the international trip. She and her mother had to 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:41.240 rush to get her one. She didn't even have winter clothes. 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:44.280 Her entire wardrobe on the show was borrowed from a friend. 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:47.240 Getting on the plane, Jazelle barely knew what the show's 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.600 format was going to be. Here's what she was told. 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:53.160 They said, you're gonna have cameras on you twenty four 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:55.960 to seven. They'll go down when you guys go to bed, 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.840 and they'll be up when you guys get up. But 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:00.319 that's all I knew. And then we were going to 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.000 go do some modeling things, and then we were going 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.360 to be judged on that and hopefully make it to 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:06.320 the next round. But there wasn't really much said. 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.959 Jazelle quit her job and took us semester off college. 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:13.400 But before she could officially join the cast, there was 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:16.800 one teeny tiny piece of business. She was handed a 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:18.960 stack of papers and told to sign. 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:25.920 I was seventeen years old, just five months before I 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:30.360 got this competition show, and they threw legalities at me. 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:32.080 You know, you need to sign this, you know, the 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:35.040 releases and everything. And I was so excited to be 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:36.880 on the show. I didn't know what I was signing. 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:38.880 And I didn't even have time to like have my 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.320 parents look over at have a lawyer look over at nothing. 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:42.800 I just was like, Oh, I'm so excited, and they're 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:46.520 dangling fame and fortune and television and you know, being 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:48.000 a star right in front of my face. I'm going 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:49.240 to sign anything, you know. 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:53.200 So she signed those papers and was cast on the 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.640 very first season of Tyra Banks's new modeling show. 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:00.120 Up and Tomorrow. Ten women go ahead to head for 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:03.800 the ultimate prize, a modeling contract with Revlin, Meet Giselle. 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:06.319 I hate to be bothered, seriously, when people are like, 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:07.679 you need to do this or you need to wear this. 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.160 I just I'm like, will you meeting alone? 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:14.120 Spoiler alert. Cycle one did not make Giselle star, but 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.280 it did make America's Next Top Model a hit, with 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:18.199 a Revlin. 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.440 Contract at stayed America's Next. 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:23.160 Top Model Overmiers tonight after Buffy on ups Jimmy. 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:34.040 We'll get into that after the break. America's Next Top 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.960 Model premiered on May twentieth, two thousand and three, to 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:40.480 an audience of nearly three million. It quickly became one 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.120 of the most successful shows on UPN and there are 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.400 a lot of reasons for that. I wanted to call 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.160 up someone who could explain the pop culture climate back 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.840 in two thousand and three, someone with insight on what 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.400 made A and TM and shows like it such a hit. 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:58.600 I am the original influencer. In fact, that word didn't 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:01.880 even exist when I again back in two thousand and four. 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:06.640 That's Perez Hilton. He made his name terrorizing anyone who 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.120 had the misfortune of being famous in the early two 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.160 thousands and back then. 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:18.560 People weren't really talking about celebrities online. The websites for 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:22.760 the magazines people dot com, Usweekly dot com. They were 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:26.320 just placeholders. Go to our website to sign up for 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:30.360 a subscription to the magazine. Nobody was breaking news on 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:34.200 the internet. And then I come along and that's all 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.280 that I'm doing every day. 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:40.800 Back in the day, Perez was messy. Honestly, messi is 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:44.440 an understatement. He was accused of outing Lance Bath, Neil 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:49.080 Patrick Harris, and Jodie Foster. He constantly mocked celebrities appearances 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:53.240 and wait by featuring unflattering paparazzi photos. In one of 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:56.560 this posts, he linked to a possible upskirt photo of 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:58.520 an underaged Miley Cyrus. 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:03.280 The Insider did a segment on Hollywood's Most Hated websites, 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:05.400 and they reached out to me and said, what if 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:08.960 we made you number one? Then, for the longest time, 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:13.560 for years after that, I called myself Perez Hilton dot Com, 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.800 Hollywood's most hated website. 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:21.400 Besides being an expert on early two thousands culture, Perez 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.440 was a guest judge on ANTM in its later seasons. 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.320 So before I talked to him about the early odds, 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.640 I wanted to know what he thinks about all the 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:31.960 contestants who've been trashing Tyra in the show. 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.640 I encourage everybody to speak up and share their story, 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:38.760 and I don't have to agree with it. If you 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:42.680 hated it that much, you could have quit, you could 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:43.320 have stopped. 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:46.640 I might not agree with Perez on this one, but 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.600 I'll say this about him. As a person who made 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:53.280 his career out of embarrassing celebrities, he knows what audiences 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:55.840 really want. At least at our most base. 0:16:55.760 --> 0:17:04.320 Nature, viewers enjoy watching others be humiliated and tortured and 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:10.359 going through difficult things. That's why shows like Survivor and 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:15.359 The Amazing Race and America's Next Top Model were popular. 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:19.800 A and TM certainly got the humiliation part right, and 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:23.240 viewers loved it. Brez has a theory about the early 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.800 two thousands being ripe for reality TV, especially the kind 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:30.119 where people made fools of themselves like top model. He 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.600 thinks it was a reaction to the very real and 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:34.720 very scary things happening in the world. 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.320 We were coming out of nine to eleven, We were 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:43.760 coming out of American troops at war, and that's real life. 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:49.960 So when you translate wanting to see celebrities being real, 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:56.240 flaws and all, once again, for me, it's escapism, you know, 0:17:56.520 --> 0:18:00.120 easily digestible escapism. 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:05.520 People must have really needed that escape because, compared to 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.119 the other big reality shows at the time, A and 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:12.080 TM was low budget, Survivor had almost quadrupled the budget 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.600 and they flew an entire cast and crew to a 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:17.840 remote country for weeks. The amazing race flew teens of 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:21.040 people all over the world. Tyra, on the other hand, 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:22.960 was trying to figure out how to get enough bed 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:25.840 sheets for the model's rooms. Here she is in twenty 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:27.800 eighteen reminiscing about cycle one. 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:30.080 What do you remember most from when that. 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:35.320 Show just stirred a cheap budget, like not being happy 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:37.560 with how the beds looked, and me going to linens 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:39.719 and things in bed, bath and beyond and shopping on 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:40.400 my own. 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:41.840 Credit cards to fill out the rooms. 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:45.640 The girls on the first poster have my clothes on Yes, 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:49.000 these Victoria's secret little like bandeaux tops and skirts. 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:50.520 Those were my clothes that I put. 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.760 In a trash bag or the airplane because I didn't 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:55.240 want to put it in a suitcases and I'd have 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:57.120 to check it and I was scared that if would 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:59.080 get lost and then we'd have no clothes for the poster. 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:04.160 Chatty people were broke. And remember the iconic judging panel. Well, 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:05.360 on cycle one. 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:09.040 The judging room was actually blue drape all around the rooms, 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:11.080 but that was a hotel room where we moved a 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:12.960 bed and stuff out. There was a hotel room the 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:13.840 first judging room. 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:17.040 You know what, that makes sense because Tyra and the 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.840 panel were squeezed in at that table like the models 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:23.320 on cycle five during that phone booth photo shoot. In fact, 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.960 Giselle told me that the so called penthouse was just 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:28.720 a bunch of regular hotel rooms. 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:32.439 What they did is they took the top floor and 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:34.560 they took all of the rooms, and they like took 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:37.159 the doors off and then they combined it. There was 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:38.480 no penthouse or anything like that. 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:41.440 Ken Mark struck a deal with the hotel to house 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:43.960 the models and crew in exchange for promotion on the show. 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:46.840 That's why there are so many shots of the hotel 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:49.720 signage in this season. And we're not talking about the 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:52.720 rents here. It was a small, low key New York 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:56.240 hotel that's now out of business. I'm telling you. These 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:58.000 people were making it on a hope and a. 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:01.800 Prayer, using bread, a bag, you know, those little ties 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:04.480 to like hold curtains together. And I guess we were, 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:07.399 you know, the guinea pigs. So it was more of 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:10.240 like a free for all and let's figure it out 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:11.560 as we go sort of thing. 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.800 Facle One didn't have the budget for the over the 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:17.639 top photo shoots and stunts that became synonymous with A 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:21.719 and TM in later seasons. Instead, the models did runway walks, 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:24.919 a bikini photoshoot on a cold rooftop, They went to 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:28.679 casting calls, did a mock commercial, worked with PR people, 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:32.120 and did a magazine interview. The most shocking things they 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:35.520 did were a mostly nude photo shoot where Robin uttered 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:38.640 these iconic words. Last week it. 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:39.879 Was sprawn panties. 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:41.200 I probably wouldn't never do it. 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:44.800 This week it's two strands of ribbon and us all, 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:47.040 what is it gonna be next week? 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:50.640 And they did a beauty shot with a snake. From 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:54.960 the beginning, antm loved an animal prop I wonder if 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:57.639 they had a deal with an exotic animal agency or something. 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:02.240 But my point is the absence of death defying photoshoots 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:05.200 and ridiculous challenges, they had to use what they had, 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:10.199 the judges, experts, and of course the models. When Gazelle 0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:12.960 was brought onto the show, she and another contestant named 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:15.560 Tessa were the last to join the cast. The other 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:18.000 girls were already in New York at the hotel, and 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.320 they used Gazelle and Tessa's entrance to stir up some 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:22.520 conflict on the very first episode. 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:25.720 You guys, you know, are a finalists, but I like 0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:27.280 very round numbers. 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:29.520 So what I did is I did a nationwide search 0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:30.160 for two more. 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:34.600 Oh my, I was like what I had literally just 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:37.280 said a minute before, curls. 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:38.280 I'm glad it's see eight of. 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:40.240 Us, So come on in here. 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:44.920 Tessa and Gizelle I noticed checking me like from up 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:45.400 and down. 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:47.320 You know, just I don't know if I like this girl. 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:50.040 There were already two girls in the house who kind 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:53.359 of resembled Tessa and Gazelle, which automatically put them at odds. 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:57.120 Jazelle and her doppelganger, Katie, both had long, dark hair, 0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:00.280 and I can't quite place your ethnicity kind of looks. 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:02.560 Katie and I are very very similar, so I mean, 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:03.360 if they're looking. 0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:06.840 For that exotic type look, there's a major competition between us. 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:08.200 That's okay. I think she's beautiful. 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:10.680 I know that she's older than me, so that's okay. 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:14.919 Did you catch that shade? This unexpected twist of bringing 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:17.560 in new cast mates is something we see over and 0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:21.400 over again in reality TV. The Traders does it RuPaul's 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:23.880 Drag Race has done multiple seasons where there are two 0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:27.560 casts who initially know nothing about each other. America's Next 0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:30.600 Top Model didn't invent this trick, but they were one 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:32.760 of the first to do it in this way, and 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:36.239 while not sinister, it was clearly done to throw off 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:40.120 the original eight and pit them against the newbies. Rewatching 0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:43.199 Cycle one made me feel older than any of the others, 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:46.919 not just because it happened the longest ago, but because 0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:50.879 the drama feels so dated. I couldn't believe these are 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:52.880 the things that riveted me. In two thousand and three, 0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:55.560 there was the bikini wax on episode one. 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:58.120 I felt extremely uncomfortable with the bikini wax. 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:00.879 It's all on two people has been down there but 0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:03.399 myself for my guy of colleges, and I give him crap. 0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:05.360 Here. 0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:09.119 I told everybody in my whole life, I said, I 0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:10.600 will never get a bikini wax. 0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:18.600 Oh, I was too young for bikini wax in two 0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:20.600 thousand and three. But this must not have been a 0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:26.960 widespread thing back then, because these models freaked out. The 0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:29.680 waxing scene was even the clip they showed on Tyra's 0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:32.600 late night appearance with Conan O'Brian when she was promoting 0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:32.920 the show. 0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:35.080 Is that something that a model has to get his new. 0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:37.240 Models are always told by their agencies that they have 0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:39.800 to show up at a shoot clean hair, clean face, 0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:42.000 and clean shaven, and a lot of models don't really 0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:44.800 understand what that is. I think, okay, clean shaven, clean shaven, 0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:46.359 and then they get to the shoot and it's like, 0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:53.360 you know, they forgot a spot, so so. 0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:57.280 Hah. But this is something that I don't think it's 0:23:57.280 --> 0:23:59.159 ever been seen on TV. And I was looking at the. 0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:03.919 Clip today, never scene before on TV. Is wild. Of course, 0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:07.080 from the beginning, the makeover episodes were a built in 0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:10.560 day of drama. Although compared to later seasons, these were 0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:14.080 pretty reasonable. Most of the girls just got two thousands 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:17.240 highlights and elevated versions of the hair they already had. 0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:19.080 But that didn't stop the tears. 0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:25.760 Giselle cried, Giselle wine, Giselle moaned, Giselle grown, and. 0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:30.440 I'm just the way I had my hair, So I'm 0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:31.840 kind of concerned about the link. 0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:34.600 Robin's finfrushir was her whole hair situation. 0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:37.520 I don't feel that this color is right for me, 0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:40.200 so it's kind of like just having like hair color 0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:44.960 from ag double hockeysticks. The one person they did wrong 0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:50.040 Ebony Hay. Ebony was this gorgeous, striking black woman with 0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:53.000 very short, almost no hair except for a bit at 0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:56.160 the top. There wasn't much to change about her look, 0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:58.080 so Tyra decided to cut that off. 0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:00.240 It was really just frustrating, and people didn't I have 0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:01.280 the correct clippers. 0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:03.280 Everybody basically sat and they didn't know what to do. 0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:06.680 While it may seem like a simple task, the hairstylists 0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:08.840 were these white women who were honestly looking at their 0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:10.760 hair like they never touched a black woman's hair before. 0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:14.119 They had the wrong clippers. They were making jokes and 0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:15.600 shaving in the wrong direction. 0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:16.760 Leave a little top. 0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:19.119 I ain't like the way the woman was cutting my hair, 0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:20.800 or the way they have a conversation in front of them. 0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:21.520 Street Writer. 0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:28.200 As a woman who also has very short hair, who 0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:31.280 recently let her boyfriend cut it and ended up bald. 0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:35.240 I feel her pain. But despite being made the butt 0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:37.720 of the stylish jokes and getting a terrible haircut, she'd 0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:40.600 later had to fix herself. Ebanie reacted to the whole 0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:45.520 thing very well, better than I would have. I don't 0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:48.639 know if it was intentional, but this botched haircut mirrors 0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:51.959 a dynamic tyr encountered in her early career, showing up 0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:54.440 on set and there's no one there who can style 0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:55.040 black hair. 0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:57.639 You know, the white girls and the Asian girls and 0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:00.479 the Latina girls. They would come to set put their 0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:02.040 little purse empty handed. 0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:03.120 Child. 0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:04.240 I came with a suitcase. 0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:08.480 I had to have the pressing comb, and sometimes the 0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:10.520 pressing comb and the hot plate. If the pressing comb 0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:13.439 that plugged in wasn't working, I had to have my 0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:15.800 Vita point grease. I had to have my. 0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.760 Edge toothbrush to come down my edges. 0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:23.880 Supermodels, ducky thought Jordan Dunn in Anakia. I have all 0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:26.760 talked about this. Maybe the show was trying to give 0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:29.480 Ebony a taste of what she'd experience in the real world, 0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.760 but giving a contestant a bad haircut and a competition 0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:38.879 that's all about looks seems unfair. Overall, though, the makeovers 0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:41.680 on this cycle were pretty tame, but the drama in 0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:45.199 the house was a little more spicy. America was a 0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:49.000 lot more religious twenty years ago, and ANTM really played 0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:51.560 into the conflict between Team I'm a Christian I e. 0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:55.840 Robin Shannon and Kizzie versus Team Atheist, whose sole member 0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:56.760 was a least. 0:26:56.600 --> 0:27:02.320 Serious least as. 0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:06.080 When I found out Elist was an atheist, I had 0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:09.320 extreme reservations about her that really fans are. 0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:12.119 For Robin, of course, qualifies every seaman with I'm not 0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:14.360 saying that you're going to hell, but you're going to hell. 0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:18.919 Robin actually showed me this Bible verse foolish is the 0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:20.639 man who says there is no God? 0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:23.560 Like when I read it, it made me think of you. 0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:27.280 So Robin, Elise might as well have been an alien. 0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:31.919 I genuinely think she'd never met an atheist before, but 0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:35.800 the Christianity conflict didn't end there. Ebony, the one who 0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:38.680 got the bad haircut, was queer and one night, wanted 0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:41.480 her girlfriend to come visit the hotel. When she asked 0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:43.199 the other girls if they were cool with it, the 0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:46.359 Christians Robin and Shannon were not feeling it. You know, 0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:48.160 if it's okay if my girlfriend come over for about 0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:49.200 an hour or two today. 0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:52.600 He's a lesbian and I found this offensive my voice 0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:54.320 on him and say, Shah, I think that definitely it 0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:56.760 is wrong. It says in the Bible that it's an 0:27:56.800 --> 0:27:57.840 abomination to the Lord. 0:27:57.920 --> 0:27:59.560 I'll agree with you. 0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:03.159 But instead of making this moment about these two models 0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:06.920 and their bigoted beliefs, producers pivoted and focused on Ebane's 0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:10.280 visit with her girlfriend. They hugged and talked about Ebone's 0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:16.920 new haircut. Ebone braided her girlfriend's hair. It was sweet. 0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:19.800 The girls were very nice. 0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:19.879 You know. 0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:24.320 They came and introduced themselves. Sorry, this is introduce yourself, Harris, 0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:25.000 to see. 0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:29.159 That everyone except Robin and Shannon. 0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:30.919 Of course, you know, you really let me know that 0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:32.480 she's okay and she's in this. 0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:33.200 For a long one. 0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:36.800 For everything A and TM did wrong, this one moment 0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:40.160 on cycle one, they got right This was two thousand 0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:43.320 and three, same sex marriage was still illegal, and for 0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:46.120 a lot of viewers, this was probably their first time 0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:50.800 seeing a loving black queer relationship on cable. Ebane ended 0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:55.200 up getting eliminated on episode four, Justice for Ebone. Today, 0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:58.280 she's a fitness instructor in Brooklyn. I found her on 0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:01.520 Instagram and it seems she and Ka are still in 0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:05.960 each other's lives as friends. Religion and sexuality weren't this 0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:09.600 season's only source of drama. Let's go back to Elise, 0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:14.000 the self proclaimed atheist. Her whole persona was about how 0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:17.440 smart she was. She wanted to be a doctor, and 0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:20.440 she really struggled with being on a show with people 0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:25.080 she thought were dumb. Perhaps her most memorable moment with 0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:31.080 a confessional crash out, Adrian, stop interrupting me, stop quoting Jane. 0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:32.840 Silent Bob right next to my ear. 0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:34.320 I've had enough of you. 0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:39.120 Jay, you offended me today. I know the medical school. 0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:39.920 It's hard work. 0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:42.000 How could I possibly not be aware of that? 0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:44.120 Kate, I don't believe a word that comes out of 0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:44.480 your mouth. 0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:46.720 You're the most insincere person I've ever met. 0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:49.800 Giselle, you worthless. 0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:56.160 You're so wasteful, bitchy, stupid, You're worthless. 0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:57.680 Your parents must be shamed of you. 0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:02.720 Damn, that's harsh, even about today day standards. Elif made 0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:05.080 it to the final three, which might have something to 0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:07.280 do with the fact that she was a source of drama. 0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.600 Gazelle told me that around the time of Eliza's rant, 0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.760 the show started to feel different. It became what Tyra 0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:15.840 and Ken Mott called a drumality. 0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:18.560 This show, this is a this is a reality show 0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:19.160 that you're doing. 0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:19.880 Drumality. 0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:21.880 What was that a drumality? 0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:24.440 My co executive producer says, dramality. 0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:27.240 Okay, it's drama reality, it's dramality. 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:28.760 Yes, here's Gazelle. 0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:33.240 We all got along at first. Then I started realizing 0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:35.880 that when we would sit down and do our one 0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:40.840 on ones with the producers, the interview format started to change. 0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:43.360 First it was very like, well, how do you think 0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:46.280 the photoshoot went, what did you learn? What's your experience like? 0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:51.120 Then later it started becoming more like, well, how do 0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:53.120 you feel about that girl? And did you know that 0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:56.840 this girl said something about that one? And did you 0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:58.760 hear that these girls are saying all of this about 0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:02.640 this one? That's kind of like where the shift happens. 0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:07.400 And then you know, she called me a cunt and 0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:11.560 that my parents should be ashamed of me, and I 0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:14.280 was like, Okay, this is a whole different ballgame. 0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:19.120 Care Gaselle's right, this was a whole different ballgame. It 0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:23.040 certainly wasn't the modeling competition she signed up for. More 0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:27.920 after the break, I wanted to spend the whole episode 0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:31.720 dissecting cycle one because it's the blueprint, the bare bones 0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:36.040 image of Tyra's initial vision, and from the beginning, Tyra 0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:38.240 talked about size inclusivity. 0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:41.080 All callers, all shapes, and all sizes. 0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:44.000 Before we go on, I want to flag for listeners 0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:47.040 that were going to discuss eating disorders and body dysmorphia 0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:50.720 in the next section. Before Tyra filmed the first episode 0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:53.600 of A and TM, she was a nineties runway model 0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:57.040 at the height of the heroin Chic era. Tyra said 0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.960 in interviews that she was repeatedly told she was too 0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:01.000 big for runway. 0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:05.720 I was told that I wasn't good enough. They said, 0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:07.200 your but is getting too big. 0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:10.720 The KPE Moss body standard simply wasn't possible for Tyra, 0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:14.760 so she made her own lane found clientele who appreciated 0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:20.520 her curves and she worked it. Tyra knew what it 0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:23.000 was like to be told you don't have the right body, 0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:26.800 so she decided to embrace different body types on America's 0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.800 Next Top Model. From cycle one until the end of 0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:33.000 the show, she always included at least one and for 0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:36.560 a long time only one plus sized or curvy model. 0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:42.200 But despite featuring plus sized models, ANTM still trafficked in 0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:46.600 dangerous body standards. Contestants and fans have talked about how 0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:49.280 the body shaming they heard on the show made them 0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:53.560 feel bad about themselves and caused dysmorphia in eating disorders, 0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:56.840 and that body shaming was a part of the show 0:32:57.080 --> 0:33:00.560 from the very beginning. At least was fine ten and 0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:03.640 one hundred and fourteen pounds. We know this because in 0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:06.240 the first cycles of the show they weighed the contestants 0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:10.400 on screen and read the number out loud. We were 0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:14.160 living in some dark times, y'all. Alise wait the least 0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:16.840 of all the girls, and rumors of her eating disorder 0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:19.360 started when the other girl said they noticed how little 0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:23.160 she ate in her frequent trips to the bathroom. Now 0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:27.120 we have to say this. Alise vehemently denied having an 0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:30.360 eating disorder on the show and after, but whether she 0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:33.920 did or didn't, it was a huge part of her storyline. 0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:37.200 Here are some of the girls speculating about her after 0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:39.000 a dinner with j Manuel and Tyra. 0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:41.160 That's kind of an issue right now, whether Release has 0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:43.680 some eating disorders or not. But we're kind of confused. 0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:45.280 We don't know what's really going on with her. 0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:49.800 I'm really worried about Realise. She's a smart, smart girl, 0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:53.560 but she's not fooling anybody and even missed tire Susan. 0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:57.400 Alise ate like a whole plate of stuff. She mentioned 0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:59.320 to somebody that it was because Tyra. 0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:02.120 Was there, and when asked during a judging panel which 0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:05.200 of their fellow models should be eliminated, more than one 0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:06.120 girl said Elise. 0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:10.840 I think this time she's struggling through unhealthy eating habits 0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:13.120 and that could harm her in the future. 0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:15.040 I don't want to be the one to judge. 0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:18.759 Elise because I'm very worried about her health. And here 0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:21.600 they are speculating again at another dinner, all. 0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:23.560 Of the girls are concerned about Elise. When we were 0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:26.120 eating at He's the place she got oatme. 0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:29.799 She doesn't really eat as much as I would care 0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:30.200 for her. 0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:36.080 To keep in mind, anorexia has the highest mortality rate 0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:39.759 of any mental illness. Yes, it's classified as the eating 0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:43.680 disorder and mental illness. But the closest the judges ever 0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:47.400 came to addressing it was this moment when they asked, Elise, are. 0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:50.359 You naturally about banners that something work towards No, I'm 0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:52.040 naturally the spin I love it. 0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:56.000 I'm not so against thin if it's natural or no. 0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:59.160 You have nobody hot on you, so there's no insulation. 0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:00.680 It's a little for me. 0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:04.200 While Alice denied having an eating disorder on the show, 0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:08.040 other contestants from Psyco one say they're eating disorder started 0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:09.640 after the competition ended. 0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:12.080 I like Gizelle because it just seems like she wants this. 0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:13.640 But I think she needs to tighten ue. 0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:15.719 It's kind of wide. 0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:20.960 Here's Gazil who's asked, Tyra just called wide on national television. 0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:25.560 I saw it on the show, which is like a 0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:28.319 shock to me, which means now you're putting it into 0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:32.120 everybody's head all across America that I have a white ass. 0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:38.960 So clearly I'm not good enough. Clearly I can't be 0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:42.080 a model. So how do I get rid of this 0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:46.760 white ass. Oh, maybe I should stop eating. And then 0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:50.319 when I eat too much in one setting because I 0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:55.160 get so hungry, Oh, now I feel guilty. How about 0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:58.920 I go throw that up now. I walked into that 0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:01.600 show with a lot of confidence and then I ended 0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:06.360 up having anorexia issues after that, bolimia issues after that. 0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:12.040 Have never overcome my own body of shame that I have. 0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:17.479 And it wasn't just Gazelle. Robin, the only Curby model 0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:21.120 on cycle one, got it the worst. Now I have 0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:23.640 to pause and say this. I'm sure I thought Robin 0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:27.200 was beautiful when the show first aired, but rewatching, Oh, 0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:31.719 I was gagged. Robin is a baddie. She has the 0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:34.279 type of body people go get a BBL to have, 0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:37.600 And this is how the judges talked about her. 0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:42.720 Robin's doubt is first, I'm concerning about being a supermodel. 0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:48.360 Because I think the next America's. 0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:49.920 Top model is not a plus sized model. 0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:53.600 I'm sorry that that's of course Janis Dickinson who was 0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:57.680 especially outspoken about Robin's body, but she wasn't the only one. 0:36:58.120 --> 0:36:59.760 Now are we shooting for the large size? 0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:02.759 Yes, Robin would represent a plus size model. 0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:03.799 One problem that. 0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:05.520 I do have with Robin. I think on the top, 0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:06.600 she's not plus sizing. 0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:07.799 On the bottom, she is. 0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:12.240 Robin, first of all, is too old to be starting. 0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:15.120 She's huge. She's not going to be a top model. 0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:17.560 Car toppling company? 0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:21.799 I think, did she say a car toppling company? What 0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:27.000 does that even mean? Imagine being invited to a show 0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:29.680 where you've been told your body type is welcome and 0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:33.680 even celebrated as a representation of real women, and then 0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:39.200 going home and hearing the judges say this nonsense. While 0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:42.520 there may have been questions about Elisa's size, she was 0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:46.280 rarely talked about as negatively as Robin. In fact, Elise 0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:49.560 is actually praised for having the most high fashioned looks. 0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:52.320 When I look at Elise, I think that the body 0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:53.320 is rightful quotes. 0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:55.239 She's just real finn. I love it. 0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:58.000 At least I thought had a really good look for 0:37:58.000 --> 0:37:59.080 the runway. 0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:02.600 Very finnving penn Abadan would love her. 0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:06.000 We don't know if producers actually thought she had an 0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:08.680 eating disorder, or if they kept the questions about her 0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.360 eating habits and the edit for a dramatic effect, And 0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:14.160 I don't know which one is more disturbing. What we 0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:16.880 do know is that it was such a topic of conversation. 0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:20.680 It made us believe that she was struggling with eating. 0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:23.640 Some of those clips you heard earlier are from an 0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:28.000 episode titled the Girl who Everyone Thinks is killing herself. 0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:33.920 What message does it send that the girl we've been 0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:36.400 let to believe has an eating disorder? It is also 0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:39.279 the girl who's most ready for high fashion, the girl 0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:42.279 with the best body, a girl who made it to 0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:45.000 the top three. While we were told that there was 0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:48.439 no place in the competition or industry for plus size 0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:49.719 model Robin, I. 0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:51.839 Don't have a market here for Robin. You know, there's 0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:54.200 no markets for precizes in front. 0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:58.440 I know A and TM didn't invent these standards. A 0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:00.440 lot of what we heard on the show about bodies 0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:03.440 and weight were a reflection of the actual modeling world, 0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:06.720 and that's been Tyra's defense against the criticism. 0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:10.120 We were trying to be as realistic in the modeling industry, 0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:12.759 not trying to embarrass anybody. It's just what it's done, 0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:14.400 So we're pulling back the curtain. 0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:18.560 Tyra said she wanted to challenge the rigid beauty standards 0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:21.719 of her industry. That's why someone like Robin was even 0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:24.520 on the show, but it doesn't seem like much of 0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:27.640 a challenge if the judge spent the entire season calling 0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:30.560 Robin fat and then justifying it by saying they're just 0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:35.360 being realistic, And why even cast and keep a girl 0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:38.359 with an alleged eating disorder until the end if you're 0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:41.920 not going to really address it. Tyra did come to 0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:45.040 the model's hotel to have a heart to heart about insecurities. 0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:48.400 She used that as an opportunity to talk about eating disorders, 0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:53.600 and occasionally Tyra would counter Janus's insults. But if Tyra 0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:57.280 really wanted to make this a learning experience, why didn't 0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:59.640 she bring in an expert to talk about healthy eating 0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:03.319 and image. Remember this is a season that brought in 0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:06.400 a guest acting coach, a guest stylist, and a guest 0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:10.920 trainer to weigh the girls on camera. We could almost 0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.920 forgive A and TM for degrading women's bodies on national 0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:16.759 TV to an audience of young women if they would 0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.560 have learned the lesson and changed after the first season. 0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:23.120 But we all know the body shame and continued for 0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:29.719 a long time after that. When it was all said 0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:33.200 and done, Cycle one ended with Adrian Curry wearing the crown. 0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:37.320 After passing all the tests production through at her, Adrian 0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:41.680 became the show's first ever winner. The very first episode 0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:44.880 of America's Next Top Model was titled The Girl Wants 0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:48.239 It So Bad. As Tyra laid out in the first 0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:51.000 thirty seconds of the premiere, she was looking for someone 0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:52.760 who wasn't an obvious winner. 0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:55.280 I want to make a top model in eight weeks. 0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:58.160 I want to take someone from obscurity to fame, a 0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:01.720 person she could transform into a top model. She wanted 0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:02.800 a diamond in the rough. 0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:04.880 Some of these girls you would not look at twice 0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:05.680 in the streets. 0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:06.960 But I'll know when I can make an. 0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:10.040 Inside Oh you come to la father. 0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:13.920 This is the once in a lifetime opportunity, a life 0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:14.960 changing opportunity. 0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:17.120 What I'm looking for is a star. 0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:21.160 That's all. And that star turned out to be Adrian Curry. 0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:24.279 She was the embodiment of everything Tyr was looking for. 0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:28.400 She was different in edgy, A self proclaimed tomboy with 0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:31.040 a history of teenage drug use. She had a habit 0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:34.120 of quoting the movie Jay and Silent Bob, a perfect 0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:37.120 candidate for Tyer to showcase her ability to find and 0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:40.680 make a star and Adrian took on the competition with 0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:43.080 a self assured but laid back attitude. 0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:46.879 I'm funny, I'm pretty, I got perfect too. 0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:48.080 What do you think makes you special? 0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:50.200 I'm like a really big time boy. 0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:53.000 I mean, she genuinely brought into the dream the show 0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:56.840 was selling. She took the competition seriously. There was a 0:41:56.920 --> 0:41:59.880 time she got food poisoning and was threatened with a 0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:02.640 elimination if she didn't leave the hospital to make it 0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:03.560 to the judging panel. 0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:08.040 I would never cult Adrian for being sick, but unfortunately, 0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:11.200 the judges came to the decision that if she was 0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:14.560 not present during the judging, she would be eliminated because 0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.359 it wouldn't be fair to the other girls that would 0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:16.840 be present. 0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:20.400 The doctor told me it was a severe case of 0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:23.719 food poisoning. I faked being better to get out of 0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:26.560 the hospital. I'm not gonna miss this elimination. 0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:27.640 There's no way. 0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:31.800 The one time I had food poisoning, I could barely 0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:34.120 lift my head, let alone put on a bunch of 0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:36.919 makeup and get judged in front of a panel for hours. 0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:40.040 But Adrian left the er and showed up at the 0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:43.719 judging panel, which again was a curtain drape hotel room 0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:47.160 with red ties holding back the fabric. Here's what Jane 0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:48.439 said to Adrian that night. 0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:50.440 So all of the matter that you showed up is 0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:53.759 what it takes to be a model at a supermodel 0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:54.400 well done. 0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:57.239 I applaud that the fact that they encouraged her to 0:42:57.320 --> 0:43:00.359 leave the hospital and celebrated it was it the very 0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:04.200 least irresponsible. But this was just a small part of 0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:08.080 Adrian's storyline. By far, Adrian was the girl who tried 0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:10.799 the hardest, seemed the happiest to be there, was the 0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:14.400 most cooperative, complained the least, and had the biggest transformation. 0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:17.280 Tyro said as much when she crowned her the winner. 0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:23.440 Adrian, you have transformed like Cinderella. When I looked at 0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:28.000 you in LA her semi finals, I was like, I 0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:30.359 don't even think she'll make it to the finals. Then 0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:32.680 you got here first week, I was like, I don't 0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:35.319 think she'll make it to the second week, and you're 0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:36.000 standing here. 0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:39.640 Adrian came from a working class background and her mother 0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:41.879 had gotten scammed out of a bunch of money by 0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:45.600 pay for play modeling agencies. She'd been trying to make 0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:48.279 her daughter's dreams come true, but it was money the 0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:51.879 family couldn't afford to lose. Adrian didn't just want to win, 0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:54.840 She needed to win. And you could tell. 0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:58.359 I don't want to leave neither one in my life 0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:01.400 drastically changes and for the better. I lose in I 0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:03.360 phone more and more into the hole. 0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:06.800 She may not have been as refined as some of 0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:09.759 the other girls, or as runway ready as a lease, 0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:13.000 but she did want it bad and she had the 0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:16.920 best story. And this isn't an insult. She isn't in 0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:19.640 denial about why she won. A few years ago, in 0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:23.160 an interview, she said, quote, did I deserve to win? No? 0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:25.960 I just gave the producers what they wanted to make 0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:29.520 a diamond get a show going. I say that to 0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:33.520 point out that from the very beginning, AATM was about 0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:37.880 selling a Cinderella story, making a nameless but seemingly deserving 0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:41.920 young woman's dreams come true by propelling her into supermodel stardom. 0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:46.000 Cinderella is a happily ever after kind of story. She 0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:49.000 got her prints in her castle, and we heard all 0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:50.920 season what A and TM's winner would. 0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:55.040 Get a contract with Revlin, a fashion spread in Marie 0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:59.120 Claire magazine, and representation by Top Modeling agency. 0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:05.000 But here's the thing. After we closed the storybook and 0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:07.680 went to sleep, we never came back to make sure 0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:11.480 Cinderella really got that happily ever after, because if we 0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:13.760 found out the prince was a jerk and the castle 0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:16.720 was a rental, the story wouldn't be a fairy tale. 0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:21.160 That's true about all Cinderella stories. We never get to 0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:24.440 see what happens next. And for Adrian, A and TM's 0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:28.799 first winner, her fairytale story ended abruptly as soon as 0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:34.359 the cameras stopped rolling. According to her, she never got 0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:38.080 the prize. She stayed a publicly in multiple places going 0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:41.040 back to two thousand and seven that the Revlon contract 0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:43.960 turned out to be a fifteen thousand dollars job to 0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:47.560 model makeup in a room for some execs, and according 0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:50.760 to her, she never even got the fifteen thousand dollars 0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:54.920 and the Wilhelmina contract well, Adrian said, when A and 0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:58.400 TM replaced them with another agency, IMG Models on the 0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:03.760 next season, they signed her as a retaliation. According to Adrian, 0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:06.400 when she reached out to Tyra and the producers to 0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:09.960 get advice about navigating her contract and getting paid by Revlin, 0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:14.040 she was met with crickets. In fact, she said the 0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:17.200 only time she ever heard anything from Top Model after 0:46:17.239 --> 0:46:19.760 her win was when she decided to do the reality 0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:23.279 show The Surreal Life. Then the agency reached out to 0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:26.399 let her know Tyra and Top Model execs didn't want 0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:30.080 her to do the reality show. She ignored them, but 0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:32.160 by the time she spoke out to tell her truth 0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:35.439 about her A and TM experience, we had already moved 0:46:35.480 --> 0:46:38.640 on to new models and new drama. A and TM 0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:42.680 became bigger than Tyra's original vision as the challenges got 0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:46.000 wilder and Tyra got more eccentric. It stopped being a 0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:51.040 modeling competition designed to give contestants authentic modeling experience and 0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:54.600 became a Tyra Banks circus, complete with acrobatic photo shoots 0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:58.600 and clownish makeovers. We weren't paying attention to what happened 0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:02.440 to last season's winner. Cycle one was the blueprint for 0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:06.360 everything we love and hate about A and TM. Cycle 0:47:06.400 --> 0:47:09.560 one walked so moments like we were rooting for you 0:47:09.719 --> 0:47:13.600 in terms like smies could run. But it's also the 0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:17.360 cycle that laid the blueprint for body shaming, exploiting people's 0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:20.239 pain for a storyline, and selling a lie to a 0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:23.160 bunch of people with the dream while getting us the viewers, 0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:26.959 to look the other way. After cycle one, the show 0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:29.960 took off and the America's Next Top Model machine was 0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:33.200 up and running. There was a growing supply of new 0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:36.279 models who happily signed up to reveal their secrets and 0:47:36.320 --> 0:47:39.759 trauma and go through grueling, twenty hour long production days 0:47:39.760 --> 0:47:42.960 for little to no money. They signed up to temporarily 0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:45.880 give up their autonomy and have their most embarrassing and 0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:49.799 difficult moments witnessed by us, all for the chance to 0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:52.920 be America's next Top Models, thinking they would be the 0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:57.879 one who would actually make it. On the next episode, 0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:00.640 you'll hear more from the models. I'll tell you what 0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:02.640 they thought they were getting when they find on the 0:48:02.680 --> 0:48:05.799 dotted line, and what it turned out to be. We'll 0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:09.360 explore the A and TM contestant contract and talk about 0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:12.440 how it enabled one of the biggest controversies in A 0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:13.400 and TM history. 0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:15.200 I was in debt after the show. 0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:17.960 I was getting built for the testing, I was getting 0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:19.120 built for the dresses. 0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:21.840 So now I'm having to pay, and I'm in debt, 0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:23.000 and i don't have a. 0:48:22.960 --> 0:48:23.760 Place to stay. 0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:26.479 I'm living on a couch and everywhere I go, people 0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:29.920 are wanting my autograph, taking pictures with me, and it 0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:33.480 was a very stressful time because Tyra owned me for 0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:34.000 that year. 0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:38.440 I have thought receipts, I have got names, I've got stories. 0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:42.640 I know more about this show than I ever willingly 0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:45.719 wanted to. Because of my own experience and hearing other 0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:49.960 girls experiences, I was like, this can't be real. 0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:54.160 Whole week or two later, somebody from the network production 0:48:54.239 --> 0:48:54.680 called me. 0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:57.200 It was like, they want to have a meeting with 0:48:57.239 --> 0:48:57.560 you in. 0:48:57.760 --> 0:49:02.120 New York City and they basically told me we can't 0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:05.160 air you as the winner because you violated your contract. 0:49:07.120 --> 0:49:09.760 Thanks for listening to the Curse of America's Next Top Model. 0:49:10.280 --> 0:49:13.160 We really appreciate the support. We'd love for you to 0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:16.000 really show your support by subscribing to our show on 0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:18.959 Apple Podcasts, and don't forget to leave us a five 0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:22.040 star rating and review. 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