WEBVTT - How Do I Continue To Work With Joe Getty With A Restraining Order? 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:06.040 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:10.200 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:12.440 Arm Strong and Jetty and he. 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:24.960 Armstrong and Getty. We're cooked as a country. 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:28.280 When my first reaction to hearing the news about Trump's 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:33.760 attempt was it was probably fake. Like immediately I was like, oh, 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:41.360 that wasn't real, probably fake. And the second was they missed. Hmmm, 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:42.400 so happy they missed. 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:51.040 Yeah, that's that's that's sad. That's uh, not just a 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:54.600 one off. Unfortunately, there's just way too many of those 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:55.120 out there. 0:00:56.520 --> 0:01:00.760 And as important as the actual statements are the perception 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:04.400 by many, many, many people that it's okay to say that. 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:04.920 Right. 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:06.920 In fact, not only will it not be condemned in 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:09.000 a way that I care about, it will be celebrated. 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:13.399 Right. Well, since you mentioned that, here's Eric Weinstein, love 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:17.040 him or hate him, responding to this sort of stuff. 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:22.200 These aren't deranged liberals, They are normalized revolutionaries. Speaking to 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:26.760 what you just said, we normalized revolutionary thinking. These normalized 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:31.600 revolutionaries have jobs, advanced degrees, teaching credentials, mortgages, and responsibilities. 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:36.400 But we've normalized this online, so people now just accept 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:40.319 the idea of assassinating business leaders and political leaders as 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.119 you know, something we probably ought to consider. You've got 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:45.640 this Wisconsin teacher who has put on leave. 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:49.080 Looks like he's gonna say online and in the academy 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:51.200 as they say, but go on, here's a Wisconsin high 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:51.760 school teacher. 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:53.800 It looks like he's about forty five years old, placed 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:57.000 on leave after he posted we need to make America 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:02.120 and we need to magah make Americans great assassins again, 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:05.960 enlists how Booth and Oswald didn't miss. What are we 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:10.640 doing wrong here? Again? The idea that no, I can 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.519 go ahead and post that as a teacher and that'll 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:19.560 be fine. Yeah, we've normalized these revolutionary postings where I 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:23.480 guess if you get any pushback, like lose your job 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:27.079 or somebody says you shouldn't say that, you're kind of surprised. 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:32.360 What do you mean it's Trump, right? I guess it's nuts. 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:35.760 I don't you know. Part of it is the whole 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:41.880 we think they're crazy, they think we're evil thing because 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:46.880 there is no bit of me at all, not even 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.960 the tiniest shred of me. If Barack Obama had been 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:52.679 assassinated or Joe Biden had been assassinated that I would 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.119 have been happy about it, right, I'd have thought, oh 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.560 my god, the country's falling apart. 0:02:57.880 --> 0:02:59.800 And I understand why you use the word crazy, but 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.119 are not crazy. They are committed to a certain ideology, 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:04.440 as Brett Weinstein. 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:07.880 We think they're unwise, we think they're wrong, but they 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:11.640 think we're evil, so that evil justifies all kinds of stuff. 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.880 Oh yeah, yeah, I'm wrong. You think you can convince 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.960 them that they're wrong and change their minds or win 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:22.480 the argument, right? Right? Hansen? 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.320 Do you have the Quillette audio that I asked for yet? 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.520 We'll see it'll always be appropriate, So that's fine. Yeah, 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.840 it's We've got so much to get to on this 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:37.360 topic of this ideology and how popular it's become that 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:39.800 I almost don't know where to start. So I'll start 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:41.800 with some great stuff from Charles C. W. 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:42.320 Cook. 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:45.240 Actually, you know, I could start with the fact that 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:48.760 Peter Savodnik, among others in the Free Press, wrote a 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:50.840 great piece. There's a terrific piece in the Wall Street 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:55.080 Journal when rationalization turns Deadly. I've got a few more 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.720 from a few Douglas Murray's writing about this. Here's something 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.600 from the Washington Free Beacon. All this all on the 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:06.640 same theme that what was until recently obviously off limits 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:11.680 is now a okay if the victim and perpetrator are 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:16.320 the right sort of people. Charles Cook, for instance, writes, 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:18.920 this country, we do not leave it up to each 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.120 person to determine what extent each individual is murderable. 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:23.960 We insist upon a blanket rule. 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.560 To chip away at that dictum, even rhetorically is to 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:30.479 play with ancient fire. That same goes for carjacking, shoplifting, 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:34.200 and ip theft. It is entirely irrelevant whether we are discussing, 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:36.880 and he gives a bunch of different examples. Stealing is 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:40.599 for boten morality. Notwithstanding, this injunction provides us with the 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:44.240 predictability that is necessary for our culture to flourish. He 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:50.600 mentioned Hassan Piker, the execrable Maoist is lombist who's now 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:54.120 the toast, the toast of the left. He set New 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:57.760 York Times podcast hosting him and giggling and praising him 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:01.120 and agreeing with him was disgusting. But Cook writes, Hassan 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:03.920 Piker does not strike me as a particularly thoughtful person, 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.680 so it is probably that like so many affluent would 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.880 be revolutionaries. He has falsely assumed that the stability he 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:13.120 enjoys every day is an intrinsic feature of the natural world. 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:13.800 It is not. 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:16.640 Each time he receives a payment, or swipes his credit 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:19.839 card or interacts with his accountant, he is mindlessly assuming 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:22.719 that the rules about which he is so painfully glib 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.640 will hold fast. If, as he insisted twice, it is 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:28.159 acceptable to steal from whole foods, then there is no 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:31.440 good reason that it is unacceptable to steal from Hassan Piker. 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.760 Relative to most, both are rich. But thankfully that is 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.440 not our standard. If it were, our society would become 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:39.800 chaotic within a matter of weeks, and it would not 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.400 be the privileged who paid the highest price for that. 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:46.240 The central conservative insight I'm getting this tattooed on me 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:49.919 today is that civilizations are fragile and that it takes 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:53.919 constant effort to sustain them. Cretins such as Piker and 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.560 the two ladies from the New York Times are free 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.320 to omit their bilge without formal sanction, but they are 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.880 not immune for the judgments of the sober. There are 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.919 many words to describe figures whose worldview calls for the 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:08.360 dismantling of the architecture that keeps us all secure. And 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:10.599 for my money, enemy is as good as any other. 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:14.480 If heated, Hassan Piker would walk us straight off the cliff. 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:15.839 Yes, enemy it is. 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.880 That is one of the more serious and sober thinkers 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:25.440 writing today, Charles Cook. He is no you know, internet influencer, 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:27.480 podcaster bomb chucker. 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:31.840 He's a very very serious man. I know we are 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.360 an agreement on the whole broken windows principle. Is that 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:42.320 fit here? Do you think the fact that it became acceptable? Sure, 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.880 I have to have somebody get a key to unlock 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:48.720 the toothpaste. That's just the way things are fits in 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:52.440 with Sure, it's okay people are squeezing off shots at presidents. 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.920 It kind of cascades from one thing to another. You've 0:06:56.960 --> 0:07:00.799 got your activist Marxists who want to bring down the system. 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.160 They want to steal, they want to bring down corporation, 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:05.680 so they want to overwhelm the welfare system. They want 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:06.760 to crush capitalism. Right. 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.680 Then you've got the useful idiots, the college professors, and 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:11.840 I've got some great audio about them in a second, 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.320 who think that yes, that's right. I want to be 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.560 a brave revolutionary. I'm going to help these people. And 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.000 then you've got just the people in the streets who 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.320 just kind of are living their lives and see crime 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:25.640 and think everybody else is getting away with it, so 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.520 I guess I can too. That's where the broken windows 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:33.160 thing comes in. I think you know, uh, okay, yeah, 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:34.920 A quick word from our friends of Trust and Will. 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.600 Then one of the most important bits of audio that 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:42.600 exists on earth in my opinion. But this is important. 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There's a lot to 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:10.480 be said on this topic, but the Timing's perfect clip. 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:11.679 Elevan Michael, did you see that? 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:13.920 Useful idiots? 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:17.679 The leftists who are idealistically believing in the beauty of 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:21.920 Soviet socialists or communists of their system, when they get 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:25.400 disillusion they become the worst enemies. That's why my CAGB 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:30.760 instructors specifically made the point, never bother the leftists. Forget 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:35.160 about these political prostitutes aim higher but to eliminate the others, 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:36.280 to execute the others. 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:38.520 Don't they serve some purpose? When't they be not one? 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:39.240 They realize they. 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:42.680 Serve purpose only at the stage of destabilization of a nation. 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:46.680 For example, your leftists in the United States, all these 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:51.319 professors and all these beautiful civil rights defenders, they are 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:57.240 instrumental in the process of the subversion, only to destabilize 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:00.920 the nation. When their job is completely they are not 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:04.360 They are not needed anymore. They know too much, some 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:07.400 of them. When when they get disillusion when they see 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:10.880 that Marxist Leninists come to power, obviously they get offended. 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.720 They think that they will come to power. That will 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:16.000 never happen. Of course, they will be lined up against 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:19.120 the wall and shot. But they may turn into the 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:23.000 most bigger enemies of Marxist Leninists when they come to power, 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.760 and that's what happened in Nicaragua. You remember most of 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:30.000 the former Marxist Leninists were either put to prison or 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:33.120 one of them split. And now he's working against Sandinistas. 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:37.280 It's the same pattern everywhere. The moment they serve their purpose, 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:41.440 all the useful idiots are used, either the executed entirely, 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:45.160 all the see the useful idiots, the leftists who are 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:49.319 idealistically believing in the beauty of Soviet socialists or communists 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.439 of what their system. 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:55.600 That's interesting and it reminds me of the book I'm 0:10:55.640 --> 0:11:01.440 reading about Cuba and the Revolution and young Fidel when 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.920 he was starting the revolution, before he became became a communist, 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.000 the subject of communism came up. He said, I'm only 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.199 interested in being a communist if I get to be Stalin. 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:13.480 He understood what that meant. Wow wow, Yeah, And we 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:14.280 quoted yesterday. 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.480 I think it was late in the show ion Herssan 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:22.040 Ali about the destabilization thing that Besimonov was talking about, 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:30.440 and in the first stages of it, which is demoralization, schools, media, churches, courts, 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:34.640 civic associations are compromised from within by people who adopt 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:38.720 their language while inverting their purpose. And it it occurred 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:40.400 to me while I was thinking about this before the 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:45.240 show today, that they intentionally target the institutions that have 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:51.320 the highest moral standing civil rights organizations, colleges, churches, that 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.199 sort of thing, and then they start using the language 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:59.400 of those institutions to push for Marxism, and people hear 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:04.080 those stall warked institutions of good saying similar things that 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:07.720 they've always said. But now they're telling me a little 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.960 boy can turn into a little girl. That's weird, But 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.920 this is an institution I've trusted that does good in society. 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.560 And now they're telling me that it's okay to steal 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.600 if it's from a company. That seems odd, But that's 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.319 an institution of good that I've trusted for a long time. 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:26.000 That's exactly how it works. This is not theoretical, friends, 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:30.040 this is not fantasy. This is how political movements work. 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:32.400 There's so much more to be said, and. 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:33.880 We will say it if it's fascinating. 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:36.640 Oh, you know, we didn't get to because I went 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:38.640 on and on as the man on the street stuff 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:42.360 about all the New Yorkers, explaining why Yeah, political violence 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:43.640 is justified these days. 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:45.920 Yep. We will definitely get to that later. We got 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:50.320 lots today and a whole bunch of different stuff. And 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.840 of course we got two full hours on the fact 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.720 that King Charles is now in the country. And oh. 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:00.920 I worked for two and a half fowers last night 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:04.400 getting my report together on what Queen Camilla is wearing 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:09.360 on her visit, why she loves Peach so much so 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:11.520 something to look forward to again. 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:15.520 All right, all that on the way, stay here, Armstrong. 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:20.840 Andy Charles is here to mark two hundred and fifty 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.760 years of American independence. But there are other issues that 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:26.560 are looming large, namely the Epstein scandal and the war 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:28.680 in Iran. On Epstein, we know that the King's brother 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:32.679 Andrew has already faced scandal pushed out from public life, 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:36.400 and also at the former British ambassador to the United States. 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:37.839 On Iran, we know. 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:39.880 That the British Prime Minister has been the subject of 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:43.520 multiple attacks by Donald Trump, angry that Britain has not 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:45.920 joined the United States in its war there. So this 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:49.880 is a delicate diplomatic mission for King Charles. 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:54.320 King Charles at the White House, it says here and 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.439 then it's going to he's going to address Congress. First 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.080 time a royal has addressed Congress since his mom did 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:03.240 it many many years ago. His mom did it. I mean, 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:06.920 that's why the whole royalty thing is stupid. But anyway, 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:14.240 expected to talk Epstein? What King Charles is going to 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:17.959 be in the country talking about Epstein? Yeah, he's gonna 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:19.480 bring that. Is he gonna bring that up in front 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.080 of Congress? Seriously? 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:22.560 Now? 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:23.040 What? 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:25.560 So? 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:27.280 Then you had this story break in the New York 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:31.400 Post yesterday. I don't even know what it is. Here's 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:36.760 the headline. Multiple young men allegedly drugged rape at Epstein's 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:42.680 Zoro ranch where super predators roamed. That's his New Mexico 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:44.000 ranch that you've heard about before. 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:48.240 And they also alleged there's a female victim who was 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:52.200 killed buried there and there were baby snatchings. 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:56.080 Is that part of this story? Yes, the same sixty 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.920 minutes piece. Wow, I didn't hear the same New York 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.800 Post article. Okay, Well, this New York Post article that 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:06.200 I'm reading came from a sixty minutes piece sixty minutes Australia. 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.840 I have no idea if sixty minutes Australia is the 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:14.960 same level of journalism in sixty minutes United States. Sixty 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:18.400 minutes United States would not run with a wacky Epstein story. 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:24.160 I don't think so. I don't know, Although. 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.200 Somebody, one of our beloved listeners pointed out that Nora 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:30.080 O'Donnell was absolutely instrumental in quashing the Hunter Biden's story 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.160 and getting Catherine Herridge. 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:33.280 Pushed out of CBS News. 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.840 So anyway, ah, yeah, I saw that. 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:38.640 And there's a lot of accusation and not a lot 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:41.640 of evidence. No, well zero. It sounds it looks to 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:45.360 me like and the New York Post doesn't mind leaving 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.680 you wondering, Oh no, how accurate this sort of stuff. 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:52.680 It looks to me like another example of Okay, a 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.440 crazy person came forward and said this, we have to 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.800 take their statement and put it in the file. We 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:02.000 immediately decided to or crack pots with it, you know, 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:03.840 made a couple of phone calls and realized, okay, this 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.760 is a nut job and moved on. There's nothing to it. 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:14.800 I I know, it's entertainment. Everything's clickbait and everyone's a grifter. 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.440 If it wasn't being taken seriously by so many people, 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.640 it was mentioned by hockeying Jeffrey's or somebody the other 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:28.200 day about the Iran war covering up Epstein. So I 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:31.680 did uh huh I need. 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.280 Republic cannot survive the Internet? Yeah, do you still have 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:38.440 speaking of the internet, do you still have that unbelievably 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:43.600 accurate and uh and sharp screed against the Brits. 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:46.840 By that L. H. Gray from Uh, I can find 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:51.280 the person that calls themselves say it had this, it 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:53.920 had a seaword, the sea word in it. Oh, she 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:59.280 labels herself as a yes, alpha alpha c. That's what 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:00.000 she calls her. 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:04.960 So actually got his her its account femme fatale artist 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:07.159 and writer, gay alpha c. 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:14.400 Hell bitch atheist anyway, Uh, putting if you don't want 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:17.280 that put in your profile, no alpha ces, yeah, in 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:18.280 your dating profile. 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:23.760 But a somewhat more restrained commentator a Gerard Baker in 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:26.760 the New York in the Wall Street Journal saying essentially 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:32.199 what she said that Britain the special relationship. I mean, 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:36.919 putting aside the Epstein madness. But Britain's been in free 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:42.320 fall for decades now. Uh, it's economy ravaged. And he's 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:44.720 talking about when Queen Elizabeth came in nineteen seventy six. 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:49.119 It's economy ravaged by stagflation, militant trade, union's fiscal incontinence. 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.840 It's political leadership attired bickering rump, and now they've been 0:17:52.920 --> 0:18:00.399 overwhelmed decades of self loathing, multiculturalism, mass immigration, declining birth rates, 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:04.840 the elite, systematic degradation of national pride. 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:07.920 And traditional values. What we've been talking about. Ugh, there's 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:09.600 going to be a lot of dirt come out of 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.720 the Musk versus Altman trial that starts today, among other things, 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:14.600 to talk about Armstrong and Getty. 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.960 Elon Musk is suing Sam Altman, the head of open ai, 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:24.760 for allegedly betraying the company's original non profit mission. Mus 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.280 says he helped the found open ai to create safe 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:31.439 artificial intelligence. He says open ai started chasing profits in 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:34.960 twenty nineteen, a year after he parted ways with the company. 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:37.600 Elon Musk is seeking more than one hundred and thirty 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:41.280 billion dollars in damages from both open ai and Microsoft, 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:44.600 they're accused of aiding open AI's alleged breach of trust. 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:47.680 Musk and open ai president Greg Brockman are both expected 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:49.160 to take the stand this week. 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:53.879 They're calling it the AI trial of the century. It's 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:58.639 really the first big AI trial of so but it 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:00.959 will be for a while because of the personality's involved 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:05.359 in the money at stake, and it's in Oakland starting 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:08.280 today with opening statements, not far from where we're broadcasting 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:09.760 right now. I wonder if you could go sit in 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:11.720 on that they've selected the jury and everything like that. 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:14.480 We have to get there early. But yeah, a heck 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:20.280 of a thing to see. As it says here Musk alleges, 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:23.399 as you just heard that all these people Altman and 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:27.159 some of the other people portrayed the original nonprofit mission 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:30.080 by turning it into a wealth machine. So it really 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:33.760 sounds like Elon has the high ground. I would assume, 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:39.439 like morally speaking and culturally speaking, and you know, for 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:42.080 the drive by media speaking, it sounds like Elon's got 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:44.439 the high ground. Oh no, oh, that'll be uncomfortable, and 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:48.480 I would the media true, there's that. Wow, that's a 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:51.960 good point, because I assume Altman and his very expensive 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:54.959 lawyers are going to try to hack away at that 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:58.640 and make Elon not seem like quite the high minded, 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:01.600 worried about the world guy that he is. And I 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:03.600 don't know to what extent he is or is not 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:06.520 on AI. I think he probably is based on everything 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:08.920 I've read. But they're going to try to hack away 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:10.480 at that, and they'll have the help of the media, 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:12.440 right because they helped they hate Elon. I hadn't even 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:15.280 thought about that. I wanted to get to this part 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:18.399 because I thought it was really really interesting location in Oakland. 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:20.520 I mean that AI trial of the century due to 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:25.520 the personalities stakes for AI AGI's future, Wow, the stakes 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:29.800 for artificial general intelligence future. That is not a minor thing. 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:39.800 Evidence includes emails, texts, diaries, and in internal documents revealing 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:45.560 ego's power struggles and early AI ambitions. Yeah, emails, texts, 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:50.120 and diaries. That's gonna get gusty. That's gonna get good. Yeah, 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:53.439 and almost has to be embarrassing by everyone on all sides. 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:57.600 I have no opinion about the legal merits of the 0:20:57.640 --> 0:20:58.600 case on either side. 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:00.000 I don't even I haven't even thought about that. 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:03.000 Actually, I just love the prospects of a much wider 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:06.320 discussion about the topics that are involved in it. I 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:08.760 think there's nothing but good that can come from that, 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:10.080 except it'll terrify us. 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:14.200 I think it's interesting that the first efforts to try 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:18.200 to make AI sort of an open collaborative we all 0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:21.920 see what's going on, not for evil, not for profit, 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:26.080 fell apart quite quickly. Yeah. Yeah, for the first and 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:29.040 maybe only try that will ever happen in AI history, 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:31.159 which might end up being in human history. 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:35.040 Yeah. Yeah, that is a good point. So that goes 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:38.040 deeper than what I was thinking about. But so I 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:40.760 was thinking about this the other day. You know, we 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:44.440 if you were to describe yourself like ten different characteristics. 0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:48.760 Ben Sass was talking about how in some wonderful clips 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:51.720 we played. I guess it was yesterday, how you know 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:56.520 your federal political identity. I'm for Trump, I'm against Trump, 0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:59.119 whatever that ought to be number nine or fifteen or 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:00.800 twenty three on your life of who you are. 0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:02.440 And I think he's right. But I was trying to 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:04.760 figure out definitely where for me that is not what 0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:06.520 defines my life or my thinking. 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:13.080 Where does how much I despise communism fit into my list? 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:15.360 It's pretty high, that's true. 0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:19.919 So I am fascinated by the question of what AI, 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:24.359 what threat AI poses toward the communist Chinese in particular, 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:26.000 and really regimes everywhere. 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:27.960