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Speaker 1: Is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly, he is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and there could be no other. And uh,

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Speaker 2: well it's a Friday here in Pittsburgh and the Steelers

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Speaker 2: leave tomorrow morning to head to Seattle for what is

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Speaker 2: essentially a playoff game.

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Speaker 3: Close. Yeah, it's important to Seattle, dire importance to the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: It's still quite as important to Seattle as it is

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Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh. They could still basically what they need to

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Speaker 2: do is win one of their last two, correct, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: just given their state of the NFC, Yeah, it's.

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Speaker 3: Just a little less competitive, fewer teams really fighting for

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Speaker 3: the same spots. And yeah, they're not in a terrible situation, but.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers they need to win this one. They need

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Speaker 2: to win the next one after that against Baltimore, and

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Speaker 2: even then they're not guaranteed anything. There's still need some help.

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Speaker 2: And so you know, you look at this. We now

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Speaker 2: seen another we saw another team clinch last night with

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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns getting in and so there's one fewer

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Speaker 2: spots there's basically two wild card spots now still up

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Speaker 2: for grabs in the in the AFC.

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Speaker 3: Not surprising that Browns got in, but I mean they

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Speaker 3: had a leg up on the others. But still there's

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Speaker 3: only two officially for but like six teams.

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Speaker 2: It's what it comes down to, is you know, when

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Speaker 2: you start looking at the breakdown here, technically the Raiders

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Speaker 2: are still alive. They can be eliminated this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but their path I was actually listening on the

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Speaker 3: way here, isn't as crazy as you think. Oh no,

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, they're gonna beat the Colts and they're

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Speaker 3: gonna beat Denver without Russell Wilson, and that would.

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Speaker 2: Get them to nine and eight. They would need more help.

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Speaker 3: They need a little bit more help. But it's not

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Speaker 3: as insane as you think for them. I just assume

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Speaker 3: they were no shot.

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Speaker 2: Really, Denver's in the same book because those teams are

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Speaker 2: not yet eliminated. The Jets were eliminated.

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Speaker 3: Good for good.

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Speaker 2: I think they were eliminated before that. But uh so,

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Speaker 2: if you look at it, there's still twelve teams remaining

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Speaker 2: in the AFC for seven spots.

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Speaker 3: For seven spots. Okay, so some are already in Of

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Speaker 3: those twelve, right, they're four officially eliminated.

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Speaker 2: Right, there's only actually three have only clinched, three have clinched.

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Speaker 2: In the South and Chief four teams have been eliminated. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Baltimore has clinched a playoff spot, Miami has clinched the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: but both Cleveland has clinched the playoff spot. Those are

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Speaker 2: the eleven win teams. Okay, Kansas City has not yet clinched.

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Speaker 2: This game this weekend against Cincinnati is very meaningful for them.

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Speaker 3: And they stumble there. It's other teams are still alive

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Speaker 3: and I think they only have to win one of

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Speaker 3: their last two.

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Speaker 2: The Raiders in the Broncos would both be alive for

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Speaker 2: the division.

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Speaker 3: Title Division title right right, Like they can completely.

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Speaker 2: Miss the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Still's mind boggling. Yeah, it really is. I get it.

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Speaker 3: I mean they've been playing poorly. I think they'll handle

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Speaker 3: the Bengals, but that's not a done deal. Jamar Chase

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Speaker 3: comes back and would that eliminate the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: If the Bengals lose, they would be eight and eight

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Speaker 2: and not quite eliminated, but I mean they may be

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Speaker 2: because they're three and seven. It would depend on who

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Speaker 2: the other teams are because they do have a win

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Speaker 2: over Buffalo. They do have you know, they've been okay, it.

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Speaker 3: Just depends who else loses and who's the remaining okay.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's the case for a lot of

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Speaker 2: So where it gets starts to get a little hinky

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Speaker 2: here is it? Like the Bills are still alive to

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Speaker 2: win the a FC East, Yes, where Miami has clinched

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Speaker 3: Miami is going either way. Yeah, either way.

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Speaker 2: But I believe, and I ran this through some of

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Speaker 2: the simulator stuff, I believe if the if the Dolphins

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Speaker 2: lose out and the Steelers would win, in the Steelers

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Speaker 3: So there's a chance the Steelers aren't even the seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they get it. They could be the six. They

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Speaker 2: have the tiebreaker over Buffalo as well, assuming Buffalo loses

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Speaker 2: one of its Buffalo would have to lose one of

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Speaker 3: Does Buffalo control their own fate, like if they win

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Speaker 3: their next two, are they in the matter of what?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I thought so, okay, yeah, and the South is

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Currently the two teams that control their own fate

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Speaker 2: are Buffalo and Indianapolis. They're currently in the six and

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Speaker 2: seven spots.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you're really rooting against those teams.

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Speaker 2: If those two teams really what you're rooting for this weekend.

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Speaker 2: This is the ideal situation from the Steelers. Obviously, the

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Speaker 2: Colts lose to the Raiders, which is possible.

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Speaker 3: I think it's like a three point spread and a

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Speaker 2: That, because the Colts then host Houston in week eight. Team. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so that you want the Colts to lose this week

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Speaker 2: and win next week.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Stroud's back and you'd probably still be around for

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Speaker 3: that game. But Pittman's also back for Indy and should

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Speaker 2: If that happens, and you feel pretty good about yourself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, things line up that.

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Speaker 2: Things line up if you if you go to go

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Speaker 2: to and of course, of course that's the that's the

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Speaker 2: part of the whole equation.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter else.

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Speaker 2: It is the most difficult part of the equation the

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Speaker 2: Steelers winning the final two games.

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Speaker 3: I agree, agree, we'll get the predictions and stuff. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think this is a winnable game. If my chance,

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Speaker 3: Baltimore's got all guns of blazing, that's going to be

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Speaker 3: a really difficult challenge. But we know, I don't think.

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Speaker 2: So they're not going to because I think they're gonna

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Speaker 2: beat Miami.

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Speaker 3: I do too, but I mean it's not a done deal.

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Speaker 3: But still all guns of blazing Ravens. It's still Steelers Ravens.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's we saw earlier this year and you

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Speaker 2: know what happens.

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Speaker 3: Yes, doubts we thirty to nothing, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's still going to be probably a tight game. So

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Speaker 3: most importantly, and can't stress this enough, and everybody knows

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Speaker 3: that you gotta win Seattle.

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Speaker 2: You know, you got to do something that you haven't

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Speaker 2: done since nineteen eighty three. But to your point, this

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Speaker 2: is a winnable game. I guess it was an injury

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Speaker 2: report again today from extents last night was unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Let's do that there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, when you start looking at who

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Speaker 2: they potentially won't have for this game.

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Speaker 3: While you're digging that out. Another thing I've found out

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Speaker 3: in the last twenty four hours. This team throws the

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Speaker 3: ball well. Of course, their protection's bad, we've known that,

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Speaker 3: but they're particularly bad against man coverage. And the Steelers will,

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Speaker 3: of course porter on Metcalf, et cetera. They're a heavy

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Speaker 2: So we talked about the practice report for Wednesday yesterday. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: being on the West Coast, their practice report isn't finished

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Speaker 2: until until after our show ends. So yesterday it is.

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Speaker 3: A big day that Stursday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't have wide receiver uh D s Gridge Okay,

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Speaker 2: I thought he's playing. Didn't have tackle Jason Peters, No

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Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker wow again shoulder his shoulder and illness. Uh

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Speaker 2: No linebackers uh Nick Bellore and Jordan Brooks. Defensive ends

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Speaker 2: Mario Edwards and Draymond Jones. Linebacker Frank Clark now he

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Speaker 2: was arresting player at this but he hasn't really played

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Speaker 2: for them. And DK Metcalf is that new.

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Speaker 3: Was he on it last year?

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Speaker 2: He was not on it yesterday. That's a new one

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Speaker 2: with a back issue.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, didn't practice it all, Yes, didn't practice at

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Speaker 3: all yesterday. I mean, what if he doesn't go, Then.

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Speaker 2: If he doesn't go, the Steelers win this game.

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Speaker 3: I tend to agree. I mean that would be a.

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Speaker 2: If he and Walker don't go, Yeah, the Steelers win

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Speaker 3: Explosives really worry me. And Walker is a very explosive

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Speaker 3: but when they dump it to him, he doesn't lot quickly.

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Speaker 3: And we know what thek can do.

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Speaker 2: The guys who were limited again, we're Anthony Bradford, safety,

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Speaker 2: Jamal Adams in cornerback, Devin Witherspoon.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's two days in a row.

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Speaker 2: For all three of those guys being limited.

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Speaker 3: All were more or less starters. Bradford's starting guard, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but he's not great. But it's just I think Peters

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Speaker 3: right tackle. Wow, I'm trying to think how that all

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Speaker 3: would shape out. Adams really doesn't move the needle one

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Speaker 2: But I actually kind of prefer he played.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you can. If it's Tim on Friar

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Speaker 3: or him on Warren even you know, spoon matters. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think he's their best corner. As we were talking

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Speaker 3: about yesterday. Last week they had already Burns played almost

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Speaker 3: fifty snaps. I mean you'd like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's a hip issue for a cornerback.

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Speaker 2: He's missed what the last two games with that.

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Speaker 3: I think so, I know he didn't play last week.

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Speaker 3: I think it's been two yeah, So, I mean all

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Speaker 3: the that's a big thing you scout with corners. Your

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Speaker 3: hip swive, will hip turn right, ability to flip your hip.

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Speaker 2: I mean, now they're a heavy zone team, so it's

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Speaker 2: not like he's you know, there asking him to turn

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Speaker 3: As much, right, but but still, when somebody runs basket

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Speaker 2: Know, even if they catch the ball in front of you,

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Speaker 2: you gotta drop your hips. They come up and make

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Speaker 3: That too, That too, This is something the Niners do

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Speaker 3: really well. I would run at their corners. I would

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Speaker 3: try to get guys on the edge and make him.

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Speaker 2: Tackle and a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, i'd get try to get a nausey coming

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Speaker 3: down down hill on him early. And I'm not a

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Speaker 3: doctor and I hate talking about injuries, but just hip

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Speaker 3: for a corner that he's missed time. I bet that's

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Speaker 3: a game time decision. I bet out that's a go,

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Speaker 3: give it a try, and maybe the first quarter he's like, eh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm not loving this. And then you got

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Speaker 3: already burns out there yet, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's that's an extensive injury report for them

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Speaker 2: and some really key players. I mean Jones.

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Speaker 3: Jones is one of the best, most important guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's making a lot of money. So I mean that

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Speaker 2: Bruts is their best linebacker.

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Speaker 3: memories of it. I mean, Tomlin might. No, you're not.

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Speaker 3: You was a thirty second pick in this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those guys remember that stuff for sure. It Metcalf

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Speaker 2: You know you did you just say, hey, you got

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he would drift the slot. But Porter's

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Speaker 2: Sure they matched up against each other the Big Ten.

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Speaker 3: In the Big Ten, I'm sure they cross paths, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then those are things that will you know,

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Speaker 3: To meta news. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's when when it crops up like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: A back Yeah, and so those type of things are

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Speaker 2: Yeah stuff. But yeah, you look at this, the situation

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Speaker 2: two teams essentially to get into the playoffs. But you know,

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Speaker 2: either Indianapolis or Houston are gonna they play each other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so much is going to be learned

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Speaker 2: A tie would actually be the ideal situation in that game.

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Speaker 3: Hasn't been any all year, hasn't been a tie this.

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Speaker 2: Year, if those two teams, Tye and the Steelers go

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Speaker 2: to and oh, is that like two losses essentially, because

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Speaker 2: you would finish because they would both be at nine

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Speaker 2: nine wins and you would assuming they win this week. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you'd have one more win.

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Speaker 3: You're in more win than those guys. That would be

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Speaker 3: That would be lovely. I mean everything I own on

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Speaker 3: bet in that one. But that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, so you know, I don't know

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Speaker 2: how you look at this. You know, do your root

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Speaker 3: You say, I know we're rooting for Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: The Bills can just win out because the problem then becomes, Okay,

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Speaker 2: you want to go to Miami.

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Speaker 3: I'd not try to go to Miami. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, and they would right now. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they're pretty locked in with Kansas City losing unless Miami

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Speaker 3: Is possible, that mean it's Ravens Bills.

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Speaker 2: But if Miami loses out and the Bills went out,

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Speaker 3: So be worried about I mean certainly I might if then.

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Speaker 2: Kansas I'm trying to think Kansas City beat Buffalo, right,

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Speaker 3: Case he can still be the two seed if if

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Speaker 3: they beat Yeah, it won't be the South Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they beat.

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Speaker 2: The Dolphins, so they had to head there and they

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Speaker 2: Bills could be the two.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Bills could be all the way to two.

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Speaker 2: You go from being out of the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Both Kansas City has to lose one.

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Speaker 2: No, even if they finished TI they have the same

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Speaker 3: Sid So if the Bills win both, they would be

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Speaker 3: the two Dolphins win to the lose the Ravens even if.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't at all, doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: If Bill win both, they win the division.

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Speaker 2: They win, they win the division, and they're the two seed.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Times have change. I mean they like eight teams

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Speaker 3: that there are ten teams a climb over like two

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Speaker 3: days ago. It seems like, you know, but that's just

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Speaker 3: that's so.

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Speaker 2: But when people look at this, this whole thing and say,

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Speaker 2: well there's No, there's no way, you know, Houston's losing

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Speaker 3: Or real right, right, right, No, It's happened in the

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Speaker 2: I'm done talking.

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Speaker 3: In absolutes now.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like we're just talking about the Bills

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say there's no way they can't beat Belichick,

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Speaker 3: you know. I mean, like that could be a ten

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, so sneaking into the playoffs, is

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Speaker 3: Might get your Buffalo. I think it might. I think

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Speaker 3: there's a good chance, a chance that we get to.

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Speaker 3: All it takes is the Bills to win the next two.

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Speaker 3: I think they're favored in both. I think they're favored

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Speaker 2: I think so too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, especially without Model. Yeah I doubt he

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Speaker 3: plays next week. Yeah, I playing this week and he's

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Speaker 3: already been ruled out. Huh okay, So.

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Speaker 2: It's it's all right there ahead of them. It's just

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Speaker 2: get in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's being pretty big.

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Speaker 2: Although I have to I have to say that a

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Speaker 3: Which isn't too bad for them. I would be pretty

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Speaker 2: The only way that wouldn't happen would be if Miami

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Speaker 3: That could happen to game. Cleveland can still win the

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Speaker 2: Cleveland right now can still win the division. That's why

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they're just relaxing for two weeks then yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: if okay, I think I know the answer to this.

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Speaker 3: If Baltimore wins Sunday, are they the one seed. No

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Speaker 3: matter what. I know, they win the division, but do

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Speaker 3: they need anything else to happen to rest their starters.

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Speaker 2: Cleveland's will lose, but I mean everybody behind, everybody behind

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying if Baltimore wins.

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Speaker 2: Oh, if they win, they're the one seed, I believe.

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Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure how that works because Cleveland right

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Cleveland's already.

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Speaker 2: And Cleveland's a game behind with one game left.

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Speaker 3: What's their tie breakers? That's what we don't know.

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Speaker 2: Again, they split. If Baltimore wins this week, they would

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Speaker 2: eight and three. Cleveland is eight and three in the conference.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think everything that I've seen says Baltimore

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Speaker 3: I thought that, but I was just a little uncertain.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how that would work if Cleveland them win.

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Speaker 3: So we might need so there might be no chance

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Speaker 2: I think we're talking ourselves and let's take a break

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Speaker 3: Because the Browns win last night, I don't think has

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Speaker 2: I don't think so either.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they can't rest their sto.

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Speaker 2: Baltimore seven and three in conference. Cleveland's eight and three

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Speaker 3: Okay, and so they would both be eight and three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take a look at it figured out anyway.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt I'm a dummy.

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Speaker 3: I am too, but I'm not looking at it. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: we should have figured this out off the thought of

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Speaker 3: our head.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Cleveland has eleven wins right now because they played

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Speaker 2: last night.

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Speaker 3: Of course, the only one more game, play one more game.

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Speaker 2: Baltimore has two. So if Baltimore right now is one

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Speaker 2: game ahead of them, if they win this week, they're

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Speaker 2: two games ahead of them. Cleveland can't catch them.

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Speaker 3: Baltimore's twelve wins right now, they have twelve r ins,

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Speaker 3: brow thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Is one more than that is the magic number, got it?

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Speaker 3: Okay, catch them? Yeah, okay, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: Now, if Miami wins that game, they're they are then

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Speaker 2: tied with Baltimore at twelve wins, Cleveland one win behind him.

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Speaker 2: That would leave Cleveland the door open for Cleveland to

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Speaker 2: potentially win the division, which is why Baltimore would play

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Speaker 2: its guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, and I think they must win.

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Speaker 3: I want to talk into circles again. But just listening

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Speaker 3: to the announcers last night for the Browns game, I

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Speaker 3: think if the Browns win their final game and the

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Speaker 3: Ravens lose, both the Browns.

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Speaker 2: Win, the Browns win the divisions.

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Speaker 3: As you just said, confused but okay, fair enough, okay.

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Speaker 2: Okay, uh yeah, but so if you look at this, so.

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Speaker 3: Who else will we rooting against. We want the Ravens

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Speaker 3: to win.

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Speaker 2: You want the Ravens to win, You want potentially Buffalo

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Speaker 2: to lose, because Buffalo would then need to win to

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Speaker 2: get into the playoffs against Miami.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean teams like that, like although.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't really matter, that doesn't factor in as much

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Speaker 2: what you really need to happen. Buffalo would have to

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Speaker 2: lose out to not make the playoff.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean it would. I guess it's better if

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Speaker 3: they lose the New England because New England doesn't gain

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Speaker 3: anything but win, right, But they're not that important to

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Speaker 3: this really to me at all.

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Speaker 2: Centers on the AFC South, you need two of those

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Speaker 2: three teams.

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Speaker 3: To lose a game out of six possibles.

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Speaker 2: Of six possibles, that's not too bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they can go four and two, and there's some

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Speaker 3: of them are there's one of them ahead.

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Speaker 2: The head, and there's one of them that's aheadhead. Again,

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Speaker 2: you need to win in Seattle. You need to then

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Speaker 2: win in Baltimore, which again to me is the toughest, yeah,

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Speaker 2: of the whole thing, because well, without question, to me,

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis could lose to the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Well that's a field goal game right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess right, Houston could certainly lose to Tennessee. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I mean that was a nineteen sixteen game two weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like it's going to be Levis and Stroud. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Jacksonville's disaster. I know they're playing Carolina, but I don't

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Speaker 3: think Lawrence is gonna play.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing right now, Tennessee is zero and four

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Speaker 2: in their division. Really, they're the only well, they and

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati are the only winless teams in their division. Do

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Speaker 2: we really think those two teams are going to go

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Speaker 2: oh and six in their divisions?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Carolina has a division win this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's rare to go and see it's.

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Speaker 2: Really hard to I'm just looking to take a look here.

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Speaker 2: If there's any every team. Well, no, Washington and Arizona

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Speaker 2: are the only other two teams that don't have a

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Speaker 2: win in their division.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean it's rare. I mean I do think

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Speaker 3: that Jacksonville could lose to Carolina. I I think Houston

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Speaker 3: handles Tennessee, but Tennessee's not playing bad. No, and they

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Speaker 3: almost beat Seattle, I mean almost beat Seattle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just a week and almost beat Tennis or Houston

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Speaker 2: two weeks ago, Like they gave them everything they can handle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't think going back to Levis hurts

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Speaker 3: their chances compared to Tannehill.

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Speaker 2: No. You know, I'll say, you know, one thing you

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Speaker 2: always say about Mike Rabels team is they'll they'll go

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Speaker 2: after it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna play hard and they're going to be

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Speaker 3: difficult to play against. Yeah. Their offense actually gotten a

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Speaker 3: little better lately too.

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Speaker 2: So you know, do I do I think the Titans lose?

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Speaker 2: They have two They're a huge factor in this. Yes,

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Speaker 2: they play Houston this week, Jacksonville next week.

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Speaker 3: Go Titans. Everybody's a Titans fan, Tans fan, and we're

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Speaker 3: hate the AFC South. I mean, just any AFC thing

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Speaker 3: this is great except for the Titans.

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Speaker 2: So if the Titans, you actually kind of want the

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Speaker 2: Titans to beat Jacksonville in this regular season finale.

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Speaker 3: Sure, I mean, Titans are spoilers galore.

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Speaker 2: Because Houston and Indianapolis play each other the final week

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Speaker 2: of the season.

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Speaker 3: I mean, any Jacksonville loss is great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 2: If here's the thing, the Titans could win this week,

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Speaker 2: but then if Indianapolis beats Houston next week, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: I see you're saying, you're right, right, So if Tennessee

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Speaker 3: is gonna win only one of the next two, you

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Speaker 3: prefer its week, prefer to be the Jacksonville because that

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Speaker 3: would knock them up, because I think, well.

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Speaker 2: Then that makes Houston Indianapolis. Basically, you know, if the

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Speaker 2: Colts would happen to lose to the Raiders, that would

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Speaker 2: make that an elimination game.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this answer, but if

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Speaker 3: the Jags beat that, it doesn't even matter the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: But if the Jags beat the Panthers lose to the Titans,

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Speaker 3: can they still win the division?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, depending on what happens.

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Speaker 3: And which team wins. Yeah, okay, just direct tie breakers.

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Speaker 3: So okay, does Denver need that much or does I

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Speaker 3: don't think the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: Need that Denver's twelfth right now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, the.

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Speaker 2: Raiders need a lot because they have seven wins right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think the Raiders two games.

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Speaker 2: They would need everybody ahead of them to finish it

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Speaker 2: with nine wins or fewer. And of course they lose

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Speaker 2: a tiebreaker to the Steelers the head Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: they've got that's really hard.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I thought it was easier for them, which shocked me.

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Speaker 3: But they're they're a game.

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Speaker 2: But the path to winning the division is easier than

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Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, two Casey losses to Raider wins. Yeah, you win

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Speaker 3: the division and they.

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Speaker 2: Have that's possible. They have the Chargers and Colts left

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Speaker 2: on their schedule.

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Speaker 3: I think they do. Yeah, who don't Raiders, Yeah, Raiders go,

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Speaker 3: Colts Chargers Yeah where case must have Bengals Broncos. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and they're gonna win one of those, should they? E

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Speaker 3: would think you would think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's it's it's very fascinating.

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Speaker 3: There this week. So, I mean, it'll be fun just

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Speaker 3: to talk about, of course if the Steelers win, but

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Speaker 3: so much of this will be clear with the Steelers win,

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Speaker 3: and no matter what happens on Monday or too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you'll know if even if the

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Speaker 2: Steelers win, you have a pretty it'll be much clearer, much.

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Speaker 3: Clear to happen, one or two things need to happen

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Speaker 3: or whatever. Okay, but I've been told, and I think

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Speaker 3: many people said this, if the Steelers win both, they're

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Speaker 3: over ninety percent chance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, and here's the thing, because of who plays,

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Speaker 3: they can.

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Speaker 2: Finish ahead of Buffalo. It's as the sixth seed because

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Speaker 2: right now Buffalo they didn't play this year. If Buffalo

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Speaker 2: loses one of these two games, it's a conference game, right,

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Speaker 2: they have a ton of them loss Yeah, right now

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Speaker 2: they have five conference losses. The Steelers have five conference losses. Well,

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Speaker 2: to get to to get to ten and seven, the

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Speaker 2: Steelers would beat the Ravens, that would put them at

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Speaker 2: seven and five in a conference. If Buffalo loses one

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Speaker 2: of these final two games conference loss, conference, you got

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Speaker 2: seven loss or six losses, you're the seventh seed, six seed,

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Speaker 2: right and the Steelers are the sixth seed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, And you said you're okay, Okay, so

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Speaker 3: it would I'd love be I mean, I don't think

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Speaker 3: it's gonna happen, but we wouldn't mind seeing the Bills

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Speaker 3: lose the Patriots this week. No, I mean another.

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Speaker 2: Conference loss of that matter?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, interesting, Okay, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, which one do you fear? I know which one

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Speaker 2: you fear playing.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to go to Buffalo. I'd rather go

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Speaker 3: anywhere than besides Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And here's the thing about Miami, Like the Steelers

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Speaker 2: played Miami last year. It was a sixteen to ten game,

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Speaker 2: I know. And the Steelers are throwing into the end zone, yeah,

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Speaker 2: twice in the last four minutes to win that game.

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Speaker 3: I think Miami's gonna lose next two.

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Speaker 2: I do too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they're in a great spot right now.

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Speaker 3: There are lines all banged up, Wattle defense has some

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Speaker 3: it's playing well, but that's keeping them in games, you know,

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Speaker 3: and they're I think they're wearing down a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah to me, that everything keys this week on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers running game.

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Speaker 3: Me too, me too, and I think it can be

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Speaker 3: very successful. I also think you can't allow the big

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Speaker 3: plays to Yeah. I mean, like I think Gino Smith

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Speaker 3: could put up a lot of points, I mean a

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Speaker 3: lot of yardage if they can protect. I mean Geno

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Speaker 3: Smith with these three receivers, if they're all healthy against

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Speaker 3: the Steelers back seven scares me. But if you can

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Speaker 3: run the ball and keep them off the field a

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Speaker 3: little bit. As we say every week, I mean, the

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Speaker 3: Steelers running game is first and foremost to me in

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Speaker 3: every competition or every game they play, but especially this

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Speaker 3: one considering.

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Speaker 2: The key plays. Yeah, yeah, play on the field.

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Speaker 3: And their run defense is horrible.

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Speaker 2: It's horrible. Yeah, it's This is also a game you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: you know, the last two games they've scored twenty four

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Speaker 2: points in the fourth quarter. Well they have in the

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Speaker 2: first three quarters. That it's like sixteen sixteen total points

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Speaker 2: six quarters over six quarters. If this is a game

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Speaker 2: in which you can get out to a lead, you

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Speaker 2: take that crowd out of the game.

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Speaker 3: That'd be humongous, humongous. And then you start rushing the

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Speaker 3: passer too, Yeah, I mean, because their protection is pretty bad, and.

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Speaker 2: Then you can also continue to run the football.

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Speaker 3: So to me, getting out earlier, I think it is

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Speaker 3: really important.

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Speaker 2: One of the other keys to this game is Eric

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Speaker 2: Row and Patrick Peterson in the back end. Oh yeah, Like,

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Speaker 2: don't let anything get over your head, don't.

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Speaker 3: Take bad angles like the Higgins play. I mean, you

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Speaker 3: can't have that at all against.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guarantee you they're going to try something

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Speaker 2: like that again.

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Speaker 3: Without without question, without question. I mean I could even

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Speaker 3: see Fan down the down the scene. You know, he

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Speaker 3: can run. He's not a great player, he hasn't lived

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Speaker 3: up the first round status. But I think i'd take

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Speaker 3: the over on Smith and the Jigbuk catches as well.

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Speaker 3: I mean he isn't probably going to hit the home run,

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Speaker 3: but sit down in the middle of the field against

663
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Speaker 3: lot corners or in front of those safeties. I could

664
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Speaker 3: see those guys having success. So that's a huge key

665
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Speaker 3: to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So, you know, you're talking about two veterans, guys

667
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Speaker 2: who've played a lot of games, but in the case

668
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Speaker 2: of Peterson, not a lot of time at free safety.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I was about that was about say, the same

670
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Speaker 3: thing is they both have been around the block a lot,

671
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Speaker 3: but Row hasn't played in a while. So I think

672
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Speaker 3: getting a game under his belt is very helpful. Oh okay,

673
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Speaker 3: the speed of the game I remember now it's certainly

674
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: not practice. And getting each game as a true safety

675
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 3: for Peterson I think is valuable. You know, like, okay,

676
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 3: I've done this once, not the first time. Should be

677
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 3: a little bit better, you know, a little more comfortable.

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Speaker 2: This is also a game where TJ. Wat could win

679
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Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah in this game, Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: A couple of sacks or big play, whatever it may be,

682
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: would go a long way towards locking that up.

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Speaker 3: Do you think Garrett helped his cause last night?

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Speaker 2: Well, he didn't hurt it like he had the previous right.

685
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, just being on national TV is always good.

686
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: He had a sack.

687
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Speaker 3: So side note, I assume you watched the game. The

688
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Speaker 3: Jets twelve penalties.

689
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Speaker 2: And a lot of them were a false star. Yeah, stupid.

690
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 3: They're so sloppy and it's like that whole team and

691
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 3: that whole organization got a pass on the fourth snap

692
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 3: of the season when Rogers got down. Oh, well, it's

693
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: a wasted year. It's they're so sloppy and they're half

694
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 3: a yard short of the sticks all the time, and

695
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 3: when they're close to scoring they take a penalty and

696
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Speaker 3: back to Garrett real quick. Can we help Mackay Beckton

697
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Speaker 3: against him?

698
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Speaker 2: Ever?

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Speaker 3: You know, like, obviously he's struggling. This guy's a great player.

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Speaker 3: I started paying attention to it, like midway through the

701
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 3: first quarter. I'm like, they have no downfield passing. They

702
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Speaker 3: kept harping on how long it takes to get the

703
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Speaker 3: ball out. Boy, you're getting the ball out in under

704
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 3: two seconds because they can't protect. You're allowed to backs protect.

705
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 3: You're allowed to help this guy against Garrett.

706
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Speaker 2: By the way, I found out on the double team rates.

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Speaker 3: Oh Okay, we're talking about weight bonkers too.

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Speaker 2: If the tight end or back that is chipping you

709
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Speaker 2: helping with the double team then goes out for a pass,

710
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Speaker 2: they don't consider that. They don't consider that a double team.

711
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Speaker 2: But that's dumb, that's stupid, because the ball's coming out

712
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Speaker 2: into less than two point five seconds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

714
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: If I chip you and that slows you down a second.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well then that's a double team. I mean, if

716
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: it makes me take one more step or whatever. I mean,

717
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 3: how often I'm sure it's definitely true for Bosa and

718
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 3: Garrett and all those guys too, But how often is

719
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Speaker 3: there a back to the quarterback's right and a tight

720
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Speaker 3: end to the right side of the formation that Watt

721
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Speaker 3: has to at least touch two or three people? Yeah,

722
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: like all the time.

723
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Speaker 2: It happens a ton of.

724
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Speaker 3: And maybe the back doesn't keep maintaining the block and

725
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: rolls out to the right there in the flat when

726
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Speaker 3: TJ's crushing down on the quarterback as an outlet. Yeah,

727
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Speaker 3: but don't tell me that he didn't help.

728
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't tell me he wasn't double teamed.

729
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Speaker 3: Right right, right? Yeah, I don't like that metric.

730
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Speaker 2: Hey, if I hope that the next two opponents double

731
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: team TJ. Watt fourteen percent of the time.

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Speaker 3: Well, the Jets might have last night against Garrett. What

733
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 3: do you doing help the guy?

734
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Speaker 2: Yeah? So uh yeah, I mean I think if the

735
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Speaker 2: Steelers again, I think, you know, if you can force

736
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Speaker 2: a turnover or two, or block a kick or run

737
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Speaker 2: the football effectively and do it a lot. Yeah, and

738
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: just don't turn the ball over yourself and don't give

739
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Speaker 2: up the big plays, you should be in this game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The other thing I think is a huge advantage

741
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Speaker 3: for the Steelers. It's just their front against that O line.

742
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: I mean, whether it's a run game or especially protection,

743
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 3: it's a bad O line and they've been shuffling dudes

744
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 3: in and out. We just mentioned two of them on

745
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Speaker 3: the on the injury report as it is. Speaking of penalties,

746
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: if they keep up their penalty rates, they're going to

747
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: hurt themselves.

748
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Speaker 2: Yeah. When is Sean hockey Ley's crew this week?

749
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Speaker 3: What does that mean?

750
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Speaker 2: Uh? Expect to see some kind of crazy penalty that

751
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: you never see called. Is that like they got to

752
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: show you how smart they are?

753
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: So hopefully it's against the home team.

754
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy, some illegal formation with three guys standing on

755
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: their heads or I don't know, something that something you've

756
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: never heard called before.

757
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 3: They're going to make something that was a rule. What

758
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: we'll take the ten yards or that's ups right, But.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers have been pretty good about the penalty's last

760
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: couple of games here, they have they've cut their way

761
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Speaker 2: down here. So, uh, you know, but you look at

762
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: the Seahawks are averaging seven penalties per game.

763
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Speaker 3: Most ardis in the league.

764
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so let them do that, let them self destruct.

765
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Speaker 3: A false start in that, you know, on third and eight.

766
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Speaker 3: I can understand something like that might happen. But if

767
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Speaker 3: you're the more penalized team, I think that's a problem.

768
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Speaker 2: Which I mean, you know, Steelers line is going to

769
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Speaker 2: be working on a silent count.

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Speaker 3: You know that's expect Yeah. Who's I think they're real close.

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Speaker 3: Who's the better special teams d V eight team? Did

772
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Speaker 3: you look at that?

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Speaker 2: Seattle?

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Speaker 3: It is Seattle was Okay? I think Pittsburgh is actually

775
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Speaker 3: ahead of them overall though as a team. Yes, people

776
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Speaker 3: might be blown away by that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they are. That's because their defense is

778
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Speaker 2: so bad.

779
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Speaker 3: Yeah, their bottom like they're.

780
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Speaker 2: Defense is worse than the Steelers offense.

781
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the more.

782
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the the their offense and the Steelers defense.

783
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 2: The Steelers defense is slightly better than their offense. I

784
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Speaker 2: think it's Steelers are seventh and Seattle's like eleventh or

785
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: twelfth in offensive DVOA, but Seattle's defenses.

786
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 3: Bad jump yeah, yeah, junk. I mean, I think this

787
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 3: might shock people, but I think the Steelers are eighth

788
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 3: in terms of scoring against Yeah people, blah blah blah blah.

789
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 3: Seven teams letting up more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Some of that's the turnover. Some of that is

791
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Speaker 2: the red zone defense. That's the other one other area

792
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 2: where Seattle doesn't hold up real well. It's like sixty

793
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: two percent red zone defense, which is down to the bottom.

794
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Speaker 3: Of the lene. Yeah, and you brought this up many

795
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 3: times week. Third downs are off offense, tam. Both sides

796
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 3: of the ball should be able to stay on the fields.

797
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 3: I still don't be in third and long in that building,

798
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 3: but third downs are bad, Yeah, both sides.

799
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Speaker 2: Let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: In their first fourteen games, the Seahawks allowed three point

814
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: six passing plays of twenty or more yards per game.

815
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 2: Over the past two weeks, they haven't allowed one. What

816
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 2: happened to coincide with Jamal Adams not being in.

817
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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe, I mean he certainly can get beat deep.

818
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 3: Tennessee is also not the most threatening team in the league.

819
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 3: They do allow a lot of fifteen plus yard runs too,

820
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: and the Steelers have a lot of them as well.

821
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Speaker 3: But also, my shock, people, but Steelers are explosive as

822
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 3: a ground attack. Their safeties are good, though, I mean

823
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 3: not Adam.

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00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: The other two, the other two that aren't Adams John

825
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Speaker 2: Adams safeties, which is crazy because he's the one making

826
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Speaker 2: all the.

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Speaker 3: All the money and gave it two first round picks

828
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Speaker 3: for him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he might be the most overrated player in

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Speaker 2: the league.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the worst trades I can remember. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they made one of the best trades ever for Wilson

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Speaker 3: and they give made one of the worst not long

834
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Speaker 3: ago for Adams. I mean, honestly, he'd have to be

835
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Speaker 3: like Paula Maul who a reed to be worth that. Yeah,

836
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 3: I mean what they gave and he wasn't, then you

837
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Speaker 3: know it's bonkers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I just look at this this game. If

839
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: Adams plays, I think that's a good thing.

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Speaker 3: I do, because he's on the field, he's near the

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Speaker 3: line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 2: He's going to play him.

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Speaker 3: You're going to play him. Yeah, yeah, play more big

844
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 3: nickel with him in there, I would imagine. Yeah, I

845
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: don't think it's a bad thing at all. If he misses,

846
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 3: you'd be aware of him as a blitzer. Yeah, I mean,

847
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 3: your blitz protection better be sound when you know when

848
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 3: he's near the line of scrimmage, which he often is.

849
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: But if he's over the top in a too high

850
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 3: shower or whatever, I went, Pickings bearing down on him downfield.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, without question.

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00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 2: It's the same thing. If Witherspoon doesn't play and already

853
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: Burns is in the slot, he's not a slot, no

854
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: like put him in. Okay, you're gonna put him in

855
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 2: the slot. I'm gonna We're going to test him.

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00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. I'd like to see more of overall as

857
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 3: a theme, I'd like to see Johnson and Pickens operate

858
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: out of the slot more. But in this situation, if

859
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: Adams your slot or Burns is your slot, attack to slot.

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00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, attacked the slot. You know, I think when

861
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Speaker 2: you when you really, you know, we've broken this game

862
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: down a ton. There's not a lot of difference between

863
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Speaker 2: these two teams in terms of the open I mean,

864
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: they're both eight and seven. People are talking about the Seahawks,

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00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: Oh my god, And I get it. That's a tough

866
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 2: venue to play the game. We're here, you'd feel much

867
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Speaker 2: better about.

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Speaker 3: It, no question. I mean, when the schedule came out,

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Speaker 3: you're wish that one would have been here, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know, but I thought Seattle would be

871
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Speaker 2: better than it is.

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Speaker 3: Me too, Me too, I thought that'd be more of

873
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 3: a contender. Their defense is rough. You know, if I'm

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00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 3: you know, if I'm a Seahawks fan, maybe I would

875
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: look at the expectations at this point of we should

876
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Speaker 3: probably get in the playoffs as a wild card team.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we win one, but I don't think you go

878
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Speaker 3: to Detroit or Philly or Dallas or certainly San Francisco

879
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 3: and feel comfortable, comfortable it didn't run one at all.

880
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: It's amazing to me the similarities between Seattle and Cincinnati.

881
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 3: My better quarterback, better passing attack with Chase out, but yeah,

882
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 3: I mean a multitude of tight ends, kind of underachieving defense,

883
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: although you've spent there on there, you know, and you

884
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 3: can't blame injuries. Yeah, bad offensive line, Yeah, more dangerous weapons,

885
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 3: especially without Chase, something like their backs better believe it

886
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,959
Speaker 3: or not. Mike Pursudo is real high on Kenneth Walker. Yeah,

887
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 3: him and Merrill were pretty excited about that last night,

888
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 3: But then we had to finish the show with some

889
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker love.

890
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 2: Belie But even at that, they don't run the ball, well.

891
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 3: Not consistently No, no, yeah, And I'm curious they had

892
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 3: that stretch of losses against tough teams. Is their strength

893
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: of victory low? I would guess that it is, because

894
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 3: I mean I think they beat Arizona twice. Maybe they

895
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 3: finished against Ara Zoe.

896
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: I mean they did beat Detroit earlier in the year.

897
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 3: They did. Yeah, yeah, I mean, but they got walled.

898
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: Their strength of victory is I.

899
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 3: Mean, I was thinking they got wall of to by

900
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 3: Baltimore and then they had that four game stretch two

901
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 3: against the Niners that they lost, you know, I mean

902
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 3: like they lost bad to some teams. I mean they

903
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 3: have a negative point differential. I mean it's like mind

904
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: thirty or minus forty.

905
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 2: Their quality wins are against Cleveland and Detroit.

906
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: Okay, that's that's fine.

907
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: And two quality wins do they offset? I mean the

908
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: Steelers quality wins against Baltimore Cleveland clan and I guess

909
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: you would you would have to say the Rams.

910
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Rams swept these guys, these guys. Yeah,

911
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 3: I'm curious who the Cleveland quarterback wasn't that game. I

912
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 3: don't really remember that it was.

913
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: It was it was PJ. Walker. That's the worst of

914
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: all of them. Yeah, and they got into a shootout

915
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: with PJ. Walker.

916
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 3: That's how bad the Yeah yeah, yeah, said I knew

917
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 3: it wasn't Flacco. Yeah, but Walker is the easiest one

918
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 3: to face of all their quarterbacks.

919
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

920
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 3: Four.

921
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 2: So I don't know if they're a good team or not.

922
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 3: I think they're an average team or slightly above. I

923
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 3: think if they were in the a f C and

924
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 3: had to have a little bit more difficults late.

925
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: Where are they right now?

926
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 3: They better than any of the South teams or all

927
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 3: the South teams, I kind of think. So Cleveland's better.

928
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 3: I know they've lost them, but Cleveland's better.

929
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wanted to crossover AFC against I don't

930
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: know what division. They lost to the Bengals, beat the

931
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 2: Browns twenty four to twenty, lost to the Ravens. What's

932
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,959
Speaker 2: there other AFC game? You know, the one in here.

933
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 3: Somewhere Tennessee last week? Oh yeah, that makes sense.

934
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 2: Slip past the Twitons Titans twenty to seventeen.

935
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 3: That was in Tennessee. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that's

936
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 3: not the greatest win in the world either.

937
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 2: But no, I mean, but okay, you want yeah one

938
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 2: on the road, I get it. That's that's big. I

939
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: mean the Steelers also beat the Titans, so.

940
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 3: You're a little bit of a Drew Lock stretch there

941
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 3: too that you survived. Yeah, you know you won one

942
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 3: of them, you know. So, I mean they're good. I

943
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 3: mean I don't think they're terrible. I don't think they're

944
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 3: a contender. I think they're a worthy playoff team either conference.

945
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 3: I mean they if they're playing Jacksonville right now on

946
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: neutral field, I would pick them even with Lawrence probably

947
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 3: all the South teams i'd pick them against. But I

948
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: don't think they're great.

949
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I just think you look at what

950
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 2: that offense is really good, but you can't discount how

951
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: bad their defense is.

952
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 3: I know, and the old line is really problematic for

953
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 3: me too. I mean, the offense is dangerous. Maybe dangerous

954
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 3: is the better word than good. The weapons are scary,

955
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 3: and all the guys that are gonna be touching the

956
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 3: ball or good.

957
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 2: Let's put it this way, Matt.

958
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

959
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: PJ. Walker through for two hundred and forty eight yards

960
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: against them.

961
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 3: Really wow? Where was that game in Seattle? In Seattle?

962
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 3: Was okay? I was curious about the Browns defense. Some

963
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: road stuff too.

964
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you get the bad Browns defense in their building.

965
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 2: Gina Smith threw for two to fifty four, two touchdowns

966
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 2: and two interceptions. They ran for one hundred and fourteen

967
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,479
Speaker 2: yards in that game, so they had over three hundred

968
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: yards of offense. Again, the Browns defense on the road

969
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 2: not good. But the Cleveland ran for one five that

970
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: The The only problem was is PJ. Walker through two

971
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 2: interceptions and only one touchdowns. That's why he lost the game.

972
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 3: I mean some of the common opponents.

973
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: And he lost a fumble, so he turned the ball

974
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: over three times.

975
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 3: Don't do that, Yeah, absolutely not. I think Baltimore ran

976
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: for close to two fifty almost three hundred. Yeah, and

977
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 3: they don't know what the Batals did. But I was

978
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 3: just thinking about some of the division games against it.

979
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, these are these are teams that obviously

980
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 2: the Steelers are four and one right now in the division.

981
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: The Bengals won that game seventeen thirteen.

982
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 3: And who was a Bengals quarterback Burrow?

983
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 2: But he was only Burrow was twenty four or thirty

984
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: five for one eighty five with two touchdowns in an interception.

985
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 3: How old did they run on and the.

986
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 2: Bengals had eighteen or fifteen carries for forty six yards.

987
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 3: Wow, you only ran the ball fifteen times.

988
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: But Gino Smith turned the ball over twice, no touchdowns,

989
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: two interceptions. He threw for three twenty six.

990
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 3: He'll put the ball in harm's way. I mean he's

991
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 3: an aggressive passer. Yeah, that we'll try to thread the needle.

992
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: So the Bengals won the turnover battle in that game

993
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: and won seventeen thirteen. And we know Cincinnati's defense is

994
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 2: not good.

995
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 3: No, no, it wasn't great then either. It's been bad

996
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 3: all year.

997
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, Walker averaged three point three yards per

998
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: carry against the Bengals. Wow, he's I mean he's not

999
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 2: been you know when you look at it, He's had

1000
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 2: a couple of big games. Yeah, but nothing like.

1001
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 3: There was a stretch there. I don't know when they

1002
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 3: played the Bengals, but there was a stretch from like

1003
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 3: week ten to fifteen where he was playing hobbled. You know,

1004
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 3: sharbon agg got a lot more of the touches. But

1005
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 3: he's on the injury report now. Yeah, right, so not

1006
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 3: the biggest guy in the world, and he runs hard.

1007
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: No, so looking at his his game log here this year,

1008
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: he had twenty six for one oh five against Arizona.

1009
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: That's this one hundred yard game this year.

1010
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: Really, he's got one that surprised me because he's been

1011
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 3: getting the fair amount of touches.

1012
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: Carolina, he had eighteen for ninety seven. Everybody runs on Carolina. Yeah, yeah,

1013
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: that game against Cincinnati, had nineteen for sixty two the Titans.

1014
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: Last week he had sixteen for fifty four, three point

1015
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 2: four yards.

1016
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: They didn't run the ball well at all.

1017
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: Last week against the Eagles, it was nineteen for eighty six. Okay,

1018
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: that's okay, that's okay, he had it, but he had

1019
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 2: twenty three yard running there. They don't give that up.

1020
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: Uh.

1021
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: San Francisco is eight for twenty one. The Rams was

1022
00:44:58,760 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: four for eighteen.

1023
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: Oh, he's a point.

1024
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: Nineteen for sixty three against Washington again three point three

1025
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: yards per carry, you know. Really his most effective games

1026
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: were early in the year. First game against Ramsey averaged

1027
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 2: five point three yards per carry against Detroit seventeen for

1028
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: forty three, but he scored two touchdowns against that. In

1029
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 2: the Carolina game, five point four yards per carry against

1030
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: the Giants, four point six yards per carry, three point

1031
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: three against Cincinnati, four point zero against Arizona. He averaged

1032
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 2: eight point three yards per carry against Cleveland, but he

1033
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: had a forty five yard run, so his other his

1034
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 2: other seven carries he had eight for sixty six. His

1035
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: other seven carries he averaged three yards per carry Baltimore

1036
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 2: was he averaged one point eight yards per carry against Baltimore.

1037
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 3: I think he's got more than his share of one

1038
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 3: yard games or less.

1039
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's what it looks like.

1040
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I read that somewhere. I didn't think it

1041
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 3: was a super strong enough one to like throw to

1042
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 3: my stat pack, but.

1043
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 2: That would also make sense on why they're so bad

1044
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 2: on third.

1045
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 3: Downs exactly exactly.

1046
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: How many of those third downs are third and eight?

1047
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, and a lot of it. I think

1048
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 3: their on line struggles. Ye, a lot of times. I

1049
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 3: think he's getting hit behind the line of scrimmage. I mean,

1050
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 3: maybe I'll peek at that at some point.

1051
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 2: So he continue that trend.

1052
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say get penetration, because if he does get space,

1053
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 3: he's dangerous. You've seen that as a receiver too. I

1054
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 3: think he has like twenty five catches, but when.

1055
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 2: He gets down, like nine yards of catch yeah.

1056
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and a lot of it's after first contact and

1057
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 3: in space. But I don't think they've given him a

1058
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 3: lot of space as a runner. No, I don't think

1059
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 3: he's got some injuries and yeah, you know he's a

1060
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 3: good player, but if he's hobbled too, that wouldn't hurt

1061
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 3: the Steelers chances one bit.

1062
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's produced on his one hundred and ninety two

1063
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: carries this year, thirty eight first downs, so about won

1064
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: every six carries. Yeah, first downs, that's right. No, it's

1065
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: not great. We're going to get to another break. He

1066
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening

1067
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Speaker 2: to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be

1068
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Speaker 2: back with our number two right after this