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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to this episode of Keep It Positive.

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Speaker 1: Sweetie guys, I am so excited about this episode. I

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Speaker 1: have none other than my boss, the biggest boss, multi hyphan.

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Speaker 1: You are an author, You are a writer, a director,

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Speaker 1: a philanthropist, a father, everything, Tyler Perry, My god, hey.

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Speaker 2: Like, I literally feel like this is my first time

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Speaker 2: doing this. I was so nervous.

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Speaker 3: I could like, that's so crazy because we talk all

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Speaker 3: the time.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to make you proud to do this right.

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Speaker 3: I'm already proud. I'm already proud of the other episodes.

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Speaker 3: I'm proud at the title. You got to tell me

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Speaker 3: how that came out?

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, it came about because I had a young lady,

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Speaker 1: actually had posted a young woman's work who helped me

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Speaker 1: organize my closet.

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Speaker 2: And this woman got on.

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Speaker 1: She was like, all this bragging and boasting, you need

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Speaker 1: to go buy some land or a house.

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Speaker 2: I said, I had time. Normally ig nor block leave. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we got time today.

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Speaker 1: My little fingers got the turtin and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I said, what you should look is I'm supporting another

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Speaker 1: woman's business and not looking at it from a negative standpoint.

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Speaker 2: I just put hashtag keep it positive.

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Speaker 4: Sweetie, Oh okay.

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Speaker 1: And it grew legs. My fans were like, it's just

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Speaker 1: like literally went crazy. Deanora. We were trying to come

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Speaker 1: with a title for the podcast, and she's like, a's

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Speaker 1: the time I think of you, I think of abundance.

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Speaker 1: And in that moment, I was like, in the back

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Speaker 1: of my hand, I said, what if it's not always

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Speaker 1: like this? Yeah, abundant? Like what if my life is

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Speaker 1: it was crazy? Lad just gotch thinking about it.

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Speaker 4: And what if your life wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Always isn't always like this? Wasn't always because abundance.

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Speaker 1: She's like, every time I think of you, I think

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Speaker 1: of abundance, And a part of me was like, but

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Speaker 1: what if it's not always like this?

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Speaker 4: And you know where that came from. We can get into.

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Speaker 2: That, but we can definitely get into that.

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Speaker 3: That is clearly just that unfed there uh fear from

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Speaker 3: childhood or something that somebody said to you or something

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Speaker 3: that somebody uh planted in you that immediately make you

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Speaker 3: think this isn't gonna last always.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And that is.

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Speaker 3: A horrible, horrible sinking feeling and it's also a lie,

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Speaker 3: but it can serve you well because it can motivate

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Speaker 3: you to keep going and work even harder.

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Speaker 4: So that's what I used it for. I used to

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Speaker 4: hear it. I don't hear no more, don't hear I think.

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Speaker 2: I'm all right now, you are all right? You all right.

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Speaker 1: So we were brainstorming and I was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I want to get a little segment on the show

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Speaker 1: called keep a Positive Speedy, and they're like, that's the

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Speaker 1: name of the show of the show, and that's how

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Speaker 1: it came up with it.

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Speaker 4: That's great.

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Speaker 3: I don't like addressing haters, but that's good. I'm plaided

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Speaker 3: something great came out because people, you know, in social media,

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Speaker 3: in this world, they're sitting around nothing to do, and

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Speaker 3: and and what what you have to understand about people

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Speaker 3: who post negative things like that the algorithms in social media,

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Speaker 3: if you click on something negative, you're only going to

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Speaker 3: get fed negativity. So the negativity is showing up in

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Speaker 3: their lives with in other things. And if you keep

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Speaker 3: letting that stuff in everything negative, everything, negative, everything, gossip, everything,

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Speaker 3: is that your life is going to become that. So

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Speaker 3: I'm very much about keeping a positive sweetie, and staying

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Speaker 3: and staying and staying clear of all of that foolishness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you do a really good job of that.

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Speaker 4: I try to, I try to. I don't. I don't

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Speaker 4: let it in. I'll stop.

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Speaker 3: If somebodys talking about somebody in front of me, a god,

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Speaker 3: we don't do that.

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Speaker 2: Here, cut it off quick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know they're talking about me. You're not gonna

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Speaker 4: Talk about me.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'll fight somebody you no.

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Speaker 3: No, no, somebody tell me somebody's in. You will if

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Speaker 3: somebody's in, And if you're telling me something because there's

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Speaker 3: a situation that we need to help. That's different, but

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Speaker 3: not just to be No. No, if you ain't got

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Speaker 3: no solutions to what people are going through, no offering

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Speaker 3: trying to help, don't. Don't bring that to me.

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Speaker 2: No, No, that's real love that. I love that.

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Speaker 1: I want to do a little story time. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: go back till when it first started. When I first

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Speaker 1: started working at Tyler Perry Studios as a PA. The

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Speaker 1: first thing they told me, do not look at him

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Speaker 1: in the eyes, don't speak to him when you see him,

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Speaker 1: don't do that.

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Speaker 2: I was like, okay, and I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know what gear was it?

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Speaker 1: Because I twenty twelve going into thirteen when we started

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Speaker 1: happening to have not.

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Speaker 4: Who was starting all this ship?

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Speaker 2: Don't keep you absolutely who.

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Speaker 3: Was starting all this ship? Because I hear rumors too.

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Speaker 3: But then oh, oh, don't look, don't talk to don't

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Speaker 3: do I'm like, what do you Where does this come from?

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Speaker 2: I don't know?

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Speaker 4: Somebody told you that?

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Speaker 1: Yes, that was like a part of like my getting

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Speaker 1: the ropes, learning the ropes, Like so if you ever

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Speaker 1: see him, like, don't get on the elevator, And it

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Speaker 1: reminded me of Capitol Hill when I worked on the Hills,

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Speaker 1: like if you see a Senate on the elevator, do

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Speaker 2: If they're on the train going to the Capitol. Wait.

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Speaker 1: And I had an Obama incident where I was running

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Speaker 2: And I saw him and I ran back. He said

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Speaker 1: I was like you sure, He's like yeah, come on.

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Speaker 1: I was like, thank you, Adam bread, I was like lord.

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Speaker 1: But it reminded me of that where there's certain rules.

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Speaker 1: I was like, maybe that's just a thing. So one

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Speaker 1: morning we were walking everybody points, okay, that's where his

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Speaker 2: I'm like okay.

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Speaker 1: And maybe a few weeks in we were walking past

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Speaker 1: probably for someone at that point in time, and I

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Speaker 1: just said, just speak. That's how you were raised. You

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Speaker 1: don't walk past, and you acknowledge people when you see him.

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Speaker 1: So I just said good morning, and you spoke back,

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Speaker 1: and I was.

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Speaker 2: Like, it was like a movie.

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Speaker 1: Like if somebody had like a camera, it have been

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Speaker 1: so funny to see my reaction. Like he spoke back,

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Speaker 1: and I was like it was complete opposite of what

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Speaker 3: I know it, And that's why I wanted to, like

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Speaker 3: in the beginning, that's why I forced people to say

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Speaker 3: hi now because I walking out, I'm like, hey.

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Speaker 1: How you doing all right?

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Speaker 3: Because because I'm like, if somebody's still telling you all that,

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Speaker 3: that's not so it does not check in. I want

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Speaker 3: to know how people are doing it. I was I

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Speaker 3: was stopping the hallway and talk and see, you know,

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Speaker 3: how's your mom? How things are you.

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Speaker 2: Will Yeah, complete opposite of what I was told. I

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Speaker 2: just I love it. It was a complete opposite.

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Speaker 3: I'm just thinking Capitol Hill to hear ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: It's not lost on me. Go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: And then I worked my way up and a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are always like, how did you and Tala

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Speaker 1: become so close? How did you even start working for him?

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Speaker 1: How that even happened? And do you remember when we

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Speaker 1: were doing Soul Cycle at Greenbrier. Yes, and I came

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I was so scared because.

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Speaker 1: We hadn't really it was always just good morning, sir,

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Speaker 1: keep it moving, and something was like, just hit him

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Speaker 1: because he has no idea, and you I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: within hours, accounting was up in that department figuring out

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Speaker 1: how we can get more money, to get more people,

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Speaker 1: how to help us because the way we shoot, we

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Speaker 2: And you were like literally, you were like, well make

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Speaker 3: Because the thing that people forget I can't see everything,

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Speaker 3: I can't be everywhere.

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Speaker 4: So it takes.

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Speaker 3: Somebody bold enough to say, hey, you working, We're all

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Speaker 3: working side by side, we're working really really fast. We

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Speaker 3: there'll be people in departments who are suffering, who are

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Speaker 3: shorthanded because accounting saying nord, this other person saying no,

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Speaker 3: nobody's told me.

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Speaker 4: I was glad you said it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you made me feel very comfortable. I was like okay,

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Speaker 1: and I don't sometimes like Chris, why you didn't say nothing?

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Speaker 1: and I was so scared. And that was just another

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Speaker 1: instance where you literally was like so cool. Like if

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but there was just another testament to like how

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Speaker 4: When people make me aware of it. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 4: really important to me. Working that hard.

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Speaker 3: That's why so many people love working at the studio

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Speaker 3: because it's a we move. We do, but we are

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Speaker 3: still together. I'm right there with them, side by side

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why we've been able to do what we do.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and it starts with you because I remember, even

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Speaker 1: as a PA, just coming on a set sometimes.

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Speaker 2: And we're all exhausted.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's working these hours and you're right there with us

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Speaker 1: from sun up to sundown, and it's like, this man

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Speaker 1: ain't got to do this at all. You can literally

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Speaker 1: be on your island or.

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Speaker 4: In one of your properties somewhere. Nope, I don't have

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Speaker 2: Literally, But I love it.

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Speaker 1: It's inspiring though, because it made me go harder, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, if I see this man who's

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Speaker 1: already made it doesn't have to do this worth is hard.

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Speaker 2: I really gotta go hard. And it just inspired me and.

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Speaker 4: You did I did.

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Speaker 3: Started working for me and this crystal running behind me

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Speaker 3: with my shoes going on, GMA, we'll hear some of

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Speaker 3: these schedule sees if you we should show them some

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Speaker 3: of the schedules have to do.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was insane when I'm promoting a movie or something

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was so beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's that tells the world the kind of

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Speaker 4: All your co workers came down and when you finished

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Speaker 2: Applauded, yelling, we all jumped on. It was I haven't

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Speaker 4: Oh you should put that in there.

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Speaker 1: This is my costume designer who wants to be an

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Speaker 3: With dreams Come true and actions arms you like to

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Speaker 5: You said to run the things, all right, But what's

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Speaker 3: That's not just talent. That's not just acting, that's not

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Speaker 1: All these years later, it's still going. Yeah, Oh my

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Speaker 3: I totally one hundred percent believe it will. And whatever

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Speaker 4: Won't he do it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: You were backstage getting ready to go on to do

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Speaker 1: Of course, I just want people to know that that's

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it. I love you too, Chris. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: No look at all of that. That's the journey.

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Speaker 1: Was there anytime in your life like as you continue

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Speaker 3: was going and build for where I was going, rather

446
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Speaker 3: than living and being closed and staying where I was

447
00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:44,200
Speaker 3: right so understanding that through some hard trials, I learned

448
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Speaker 3: to just surrender when it shows up.

449
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Speaker 1: Wow, I want to touch on something that you've helped

450
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Speaker 1: me in my personal life when it comes to going higher.

451
00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:54,919
Speaker 4: When we've been told about me.

452
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because we talked about that relationship, yes.

453
00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,600
Speaker 2: But it was in my living.

454
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,680
Speaker 1: It was we were shooting I want to say, Medea,

455
00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,359
Speaker 1: maybe Halloween, the second one, one of the movies, and

456
00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:13,919
Speaker 1: that's when I was still styling you. We're in the

457
00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,680
Speaker 1: bathroom changing media's wardrobe.

458
00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:17,840
Speaker 2: And you were like, where are you living?

459
00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,359
Speaker 1: And I said, oh, I'm rint in a townhouse and

460
00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,480
Speaker 1: you're like okay, You're like you are own it and.

461
00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,399
Speaker 2: I said no, and he goes, you need to go

462
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:26,240
Speaker 2: buy a house and I.

463
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Speaker 1: Was like, well, sir, the way we work, I was like,

464
00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,359
Speaker 1: we work and then we save our money to live.

465
00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,920
Speaker 2: When we're not working. It's hard to save when.

466
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,960
Speaker 1: You're just like living, you know what I'm saying, basically

467
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,200
Speaker 1: living paycheck to paycheck.

468
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Speaker 2: And you were like, okay, well how much is the house?

469
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,280
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, the ones i'm looking at

470
00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,679
Speaker 1: like we'd be like two fifty three hundred thousand, and

471
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,119
Speaker 1: you're like, well, how about the dawn payment. I was

472
00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,680
Speaker 1: like like, if you put ten percent down, you may

473
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,760
Speaker 1: do like fifteen thousands between twenty and fifteen thousand, and

474
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Speaker 1: you're like, okay, the way you're waiting on, I.

475
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,119
Speaker 2: Said, well, you like, go get your house.

476
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Speaker 1: And it was in that moment, I was like, good Lord,

477
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 1: what about go get your house. So I got that

478
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,160
Speaker 1: house and I came back to it set of by

479
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 1: then we were shooting having having eights because we moved

480
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 1: on to the next project. You're like, christ got she

481
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,200
Speaker 1: got her house. He was like, I give you four years.

482
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Speaker 1: You'll be in a mansion within four years. I don't

483
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Speaker 1: know if you remember saying that we were on set.

484
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 1: You called me and you like, it's time to get

485
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Speaker 1: out of that little apartment.

486
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 2: He called house an apartment, Yeah, a four bedroom did and.

487
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,400
Speaker 4: Half that it's beautiful. It was beautiful.

488
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 3: But I knew again in my life what I learned

489
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 3: and what I understood was be open when it shows up.

490
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,119
Speaker 3: That's not arrogance, that's not anything. There's so many people

491
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 3: who I know I've met in this lifetime being having

492
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 3: been very poor and now doing very well, who on

493
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 3: that side of it they never apologized for We as

494
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 3: black people, constantly apologize when we have something good. Like

495
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 3: you talked about that lady who talking about stop showing off,

496
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,360
Speaker 3: you should be you should be. See that's somebody who

497
00:20:55,359 --> 00:21:02,119
Speaker 3: don't even understand that it's based on the experiences of

498
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 3: what we have done as black people in this country,

499
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 3: the things our ancestors did, our success has already been

500
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 3: bought and paid for. If we could get our mentality

501
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 3: around what that means. Yes, you wouldn't walk around apologizing.

502
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 2: For I know that's right. And you taught me to

503
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 2: live unapologetically.

504
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 4: Yes, it's okay, yep.

505
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 1: And even when I was living in a scarcity mindset,

506
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 1: you like, Chris, I know, you feel like you just

507
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 1: got through the door or just one foot. You're like,

508
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 1: you're in the door, You're right, You're all right, go

509
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,360
Speaker 1: get what you want. I was like, well, I don't

510
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 1: know if I can like stop living like that, because

511
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 1: you said that you would go buy what you could afford,

512
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 1: like I know, I can handle this. And then you're

513
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: in there for two years and you're like, I should

514
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: have just got what I wanted because God continued to

515
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 1: multiply and multiply, and like I could have just got

516
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Speaker 1: what I want?

517
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Speaker 4: I want.

518
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 3: Yes, And many times in my life I've been in

519
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 3: a situation, why did I buy this?

520
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 4: Why am I why about this? I didn't when that's

521
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 4: right there?

522
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, So you you helped me to one

523
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,719
Speaker 1: bigger to open my lens and be like, Okay, I

524
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 1: can do this, and every time I go higher, my wife.

525
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 2: Just makes room. It makes room.

526
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 1: My ideas get bigger the money it comes, and it's

527
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 1: never like a oh God, how about.

528
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 2: To take care of it?

529
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 3: There you go, and then you realize after four years ago, man,

530
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 3: I just breezed through that.

531
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Speaker 4: I wasn't even that wasn't even a stretch.

532
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 3: Because your mind became open to the possibility of what

533
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 3: it could be.

534
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah it is, but that also comes with exposure.

535
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: I'm a young girl from Martin, Tennessee, population ten thousand,

536
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: people like super small, and you have one. I remember

537
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 1: the first time you invite me to the island and

538
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 1: I was sitting at the table with everybody, and I

539
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: don't know if you can feel the timidness, and you

540
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 1: were like, if.

541
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Speaker 2: You're at this table, it's because you belong.

542
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: And I remember one morning just walking around, just touching

543
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 1: the leaves. I'd never seen an island, a private island,

544
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: a private island. I've been on an island and not

545
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: an island like that, and I was like, this man,

546
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: this is his own island, Like I don't even need

547
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: all this, Like this is possible. Yeah, then that's exposure.

548
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

549
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: Just knowing that I know somebody who has done it,

550
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: this is something I can do as well. And the

551
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: places you've taken me we traveled the world together, has

552
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: opened my eyes to so much where a lot of

553
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: people aren't privy to sing.

554
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 3: Thinking about a couple of things traveling in the world.

555
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 3: But let me just say this and then I'll go

556
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 3: to the traveling world Oprah. Oprah did that for me

557
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 3: when I first went to her house, she did that

558
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 3: for me. I was like, Oh, this is possible. You

559
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 3: can actually dream and be and I'll never forget. I'm

560
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 3: on video saying this. I'm probably thirty five. At the

561
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 3: thirty six, My first movie had just come out, and

562
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 3: I was just like, oh, I could have this. It

563
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 3: took all of the reins and blinders off and I

564
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 3: was just like, Okay, God, what you got. Yeah, Well,

565
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,479
Speaker 3: I'm going to do the best I can to honor it.

566
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be good to people. I'm gonna everybody comes

567
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 3: in my life. I'm gonna make sure that they are

568
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 3: touched and affected in a beautiful way, that their lives

569
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 3: are changed, that they're really see and dream everything you

570
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 3: show me got I'm gonna try to pass it on

571
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 3: to somebody else, and everybody who can get it, I'll

572
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 3: take it right. So that's the feeling I want the

573
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 3: people around me to have. That's the feeling I want

574
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 3: the people at the studio to have, because at this

575
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 3: point was what else is? What else is there to do?

576
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly? That's so good.

577
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're traveling the world, just like she don't like roaches.

578
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 3: So so we we were in.

579
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Speaker 4: Really nice So do y'all know them? Beautiful places over

580
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 4: the water a little buo.

581
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Speaker 2: It was nice.

582
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 3: If you walk in the hotel that's very expensive and

583
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 3: there's roach spray in the closet, something something up.

584
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 2: So I didn't read.

585
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: I didn't read that road spray because the place is beautiful,

586
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 3: the glass bottom.

587
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 4: Of the gun.

588
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I'm about Crystal doing in her

589
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 3: room screams.

590
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 2: Do not roaches.

591
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Speaker 1: I was like, they're like the people came in the

592
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: room that manager and he was.

593
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 2: Like, oh, I'm talking about y'all. It was a big roach.

594
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: He was like, oh, this is a water bug.

595
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 3: I said, that's cockro we from the South, and we

596
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 3: get on his head.

597
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 4: That's a cock throat. Y'all got to get that thing.

598
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: Y'all came in there moving furniture for me. Y'all here,

599
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: turn the arrow, turn.

600
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 4: The arrow, yeah, yep. Or the time I said beyond,

601
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 4: she was ready to go.

602
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

603
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: The first time you took me. I was in Miami, guys,

604
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Speaker 1: I'm on a vacation. I always I like to travel

605
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Speaker 1: by myself sometimes and then my girls to come meet

606
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 1: me after I've had my me time. And so it

607
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: was before my girls landed and I had unpacked.

608
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 2: I was staying in Miami for a while.

609
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 1: I had unpacked my clothes and I never do that.

610
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: I never unpack and hang things up. I just live

611
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: out the suitcase. This particular trip, I had unpacked. I

612
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: get a call and he's like, hey, I need you

613
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: to pack some things for me.

614
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 2: I've got to go to Copenhagen.

615
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: And I was like okay, and he was I said, okay,

616
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 1: I'll get some things done. So I had caught our money.

617
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 1: I was like, hair money, can you face on me?

618
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: So I can you can help with this? Come out

619
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: in town. And then I get another call and you

620
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: were like, well, I need you to pack your things too,

621
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: because we're going to see Beyonce.

622
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: Y'all. I ain't never packed. I ain't never got to

623
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: the airport that fast.

624
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 3: I called you, caught you back. I called you back

625
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 3: because I knew you had friends. I knew you had packed.

626
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 3: I called you back. I say, so you think you're

627
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 3: gonna you're going I'm at the airport, I'm going through,

628
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 3: backing me away.

629
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Speaker 1: And that was the most amazing experience. We flew on

630
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: your jet to Copenhagen. I got to meet Beyonce for

631
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: the first time, y'all, Like, do we need a land

632
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: the pass? She's gonna faint, what's gonna happen? Oh my goodness?

633
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: And that was just that was crazy. Thank you for

634
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 1: the many experiences, but that was that when it started.

635
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 4: Exposure.

636
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: Exposure, that's what That's what I completely love and hope

637
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 3: that more of us have, you know, and it doesn't

638
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 3: take you don't have to travel the world to to

639
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 3: You could just get out of your neighborhood, go to

640
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 3: other neighborhoods see other things. Like when I was struggling

641
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 3: and broken in my twenties, I barely had nickel or

642
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 3: anything to eat, but I would go to an open

643
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 3: house and in the nicest neighborhoods, and I would drive

644
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 3: test drive cars, just not for the materialness of it,

645
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 3: but just to know it's possible. Yes, right, And because

646
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 3: in my neighborhood there was there was the drug boys

647
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: or the preachers that were the only ones doing well.

648
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: Wow.

649
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 4: So I didn't see anybody else.

650
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 3: That you know, was in the movie business or anything.

651
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 3: I didn't see any of that. So coming to Atlanta

652
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 3: really opened my mind up to the possibility of there

653
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 3: are other things you can be other than those two.

654
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Wow, that's good. Something else that I have learned

655
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: from you is generosity. I've always just naturally just been

656
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: a nice person, speak to everybody. But it was first

657
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 1: it was Andy Norman, who we love works.

658
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 2: All right hand over there. Oh my goodness, love him.

659
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: And he called me one day he always goes to

660
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: church on Wednesdays, and he said, I don't know why

661
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: God put you on my spirit, but he told me

662
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: to tell you your living is in your giving. He said,

663
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: I don't know what this why what it was. And

664
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Speaker 1: at this time I was I wasn't even costume designing.

665
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: I was just a costumer. So that you know, that's

666
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: just like okay, what does that mean?

667
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: You know? He's like, your living is in your giving.

668
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 2: So we take a break.

669
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: I get a call from Ozzie, who was the president

670
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: at the time, and he goes, hey, t I want

671
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 1: me to call you to see if you be interested

672
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: in costume designing the next season of shows.

673
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: And I was like, Oh, that's that's a.

674
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: Big in a big job, Like I don't know if

675
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm ready for this, if I'm prepared, And I ended

676
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: up praying about it and I ended up taking the job.

677
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: And when I walked in for my first.

678
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: Day and he was like, I didn't know where you

679
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: were going or what was about. He said, but you're

680
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: you're going like, babe, you're going higher. And I was like,

681
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: and this is crazy, and he's like, don't forget what

682
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: I said. And he always reminded me and I never

683
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: forget that. But just being around you and styling you

684
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: for the years I styled you, and actually getting a

685
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: close up look at how you run things, the way

686
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: you give silently. People don't even know the half of

687
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: the things you do, because you can be sitting in

688
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: your living room watch a TV like I want to

689
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,719
Speaker 1: health itly and figure I find her.

690
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 4: I need.

691
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: I want to help her rebuild whatever, you know, saying

692
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: you always bless people. And I remember it was during

693
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: COVID and you called me and you said, hey, I just.

694
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: Want to shake on you. Are you good? Because we

695
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: weren't working. You wanted to make sure I was. I

696
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 2: was okay. I said, no, tell you taking good care

697
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: of me. I'm good.

698
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: And in turn I turned around and called herman remember

699
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: what he had told us the sorrel And it just

700
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: that's I feel like when you're around somebody you're a caliber.

701
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: Those are the things you need to take from them,

702
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: you know, like learning how to like that was a

703
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: valuable thing for me.

704
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: Like this man will he just gives freely and with

705
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: a cheerful heart.

706
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: And that was one of the things I was like

707
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: when I'm this position, like because I would already already

708
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: do it. Like when we come back to work, I

709
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: buy people lunch because I knew they weren't had been

710
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: working for a while, so I would do what I

711
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: could do.

712
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: I couldn't buy a car.

713
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 4: That's the same. That's the same thing.

714
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: Though giving doesn't have a value when it comes from

715
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: a pure place, it could be ten billion dollars. It

716
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 3: could be two pennies. It doesn't have a value when

717
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 3: it comes from purity. Giving is about what it does

718
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 3: for the other person exactly.

719
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: And I learned that from you.

720
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: So I just that's another thing, like being around you.

721
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: I've learned so many things, just even how to carry

722
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: myself because a lot of times you don't know why

723
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: guy's putting you around someone I had no idea why

724
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: you chose me.

725
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: And why guy put it on your heart to be

726
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: like her. I want her to come and help me

727
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: with this.

728
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: But in that it was literally molding me to be

729
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: able to sit in the space I'm in now and

730
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: to be able to carry it.

731
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: And you know what I'm saying, That's.

732
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 3: Why I tell everyone who is around somebody who they

733
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: are wondering. Like I was around people like Oprah and

734
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 3: you know, TD Jake's and things.

735
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 4: I was like, why these people are so amazing?

736
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 3: How am I? What am I? What is this about?

737
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: But they were there to teach me something. And I

738
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: watched the grace of how they carried themselves. I watched

739
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: the compassion and I watch how they treated everybody around them.

740
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 3: You know, all people want to do is be seen

741
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 3: and heard, right, So if you Sometimes that's all they need.

742
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: And so when I'm helping someone, and as you said,

743
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: most of it's private because the world don't need to

744
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 3: know it, but there are moments where people want to

745
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: know it. And then there are moments where I say, Okay,

746
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 3: people should know this because there's so much hell in

747
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 3: the world right now, so let's see see what how

748
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 3: much good this can be. Yes, but it's really really

749
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 3: important to be able to have what you have and

750
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: have an open hand and heart to help other people. Yes,

751
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: I get that from my mother. I mean I would

752
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: wake up when I was a kid and step out

753
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 3: of the bed. I would step on somebody on the floor,

754
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 3: like who these people's like they needed a place to stay, right,

755
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: So she would wouldn't gve no money, but she would

756
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 3: she wouldn't you know, you couldn't get twenty dollars out

757
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: of my mother, but she would feed them, she would

758
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: clothe them. Shit, she's just she was just amazing.

759
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. You talk about your mother.

760
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: I know this.

761
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: She's someone who was a dear, dear place in your heart.

762
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: And you talked about the dysfunctioning of your home growing up.

763
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: What was it with that.

764
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: Little boy, because you say in your book Hires Waiting,

765
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: you say that ever since I was a little boy,

766
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: I've known there was something greater than myself, something bigger,

767
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: something stronger, something higher. I know, for me as a

768
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: kid living in Martin, Tennessee, I didn't see anything that

769
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: God had put in my mind. I didn't see anything

770
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: that even reflected that. I'm like, so, why do I

771
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: feel like I can only saw it on TV? What

772
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: was it with that little boy living in New Orleans?

773
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: It was like, it's something bigger for me than this.

774
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 3: That was That was the most frustrating part of my

775
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: life and career is having all of that vision inside

776
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 3: of me and did not sing a path, not seeing

777
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: anybody else who had done it, not seen anybody around.

778
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 3: I was just like, how is this even possible for

779
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 3: me to obtain this? But for me, my mother took

780
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 3: me to church all the time, so I just would

781
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: hear my uncle preaching about you know, if you pray,

782
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: God will answer your prayers. And I just believed from

783
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 3: a little boy that God was answering my prayers. Especially

784
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: when I got these I thought that the television Flora

785
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 3: Mode television, y'all y'all don't know what that flora on television.

786
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 3: I thought that the people inside on Gilligan's Island, the

787
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 3: TV show, were inside the TV and I wanted to

788
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: go behind it and open it up and find them.

789
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: And my father would have killed me though, So I prayed.

790
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 3: I said, God, send me some little people to take

791
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: care of. And I'm leaving school. I come home and

792
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: there's a house, a bamboo house on sitting on the porch.

793
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 3: Lady across the street had left, had moved away, and

794
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 3: she asked my mother if I could have her parakeets,

795
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: TV and Pierre and they spoke. So as a little boy,

796
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, God heard my prayer.

797
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: I heard it.

798
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, So from then on, from then on, it's like, okay,

799
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 3: this prayer thing works.

800
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: It works.

801
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 4: Prayer ye.

802
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 3: Got to get my call for to get up there

803
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 3: exactly right right right right right right right right.

804
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 4: Downs nice gowns something. Yeah.

805
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: I'd like to ask that question because a lot of

806
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: times when people see us where we are now, it's

807
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: like where did that start?

808
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 2: So I definitely wanted to touch on that.

809
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 4: You can't just say this about God.

810
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 3: In fact, I know the world is changing and people

811
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 3: are getting away from so many things. And it makes

812
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 3: sense because because of what church has become. But my

813
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: whole hope is that if people have a relationship with

814
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 3: God and believing that, they never ever equate that to

815
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 3: something that man is, because they will always let you down. Preacher, pastor,

816
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: priests will always let you down.

817
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 4: They are not God. They're human.

818
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 3: They're allowed to be flawed, they're alive to make mistakes business.

819
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 3: So so I give them the grace of being human. Yes,

820
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 3: but when I need grace, I go to God, not

821
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 3: for them.

822
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely.

823
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: I just literally just yesterday, had this conversation with my

824
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: brother Marquis, and he was like, you know, I just

825
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 1: church hurt. He was like, I just don't feel He said,

826
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: I just don't want to go through this again. And

827
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I said, I literally told him, I said, Marquis,

828
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: I was like, the pastor is not God. I was like,

829
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: he's human, just like we are. I said, you, we're

830
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: going to church to get close to God. If that

831
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: person is delivering the message the way you need it,

832
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: we have to give them grace in their personal life,

833
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: right Like, we can't judge.

834
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 4: That or that ain't ain't your business.

835
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 3: If God sends a message, and you know when that

836
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 3: message is yours coming through that person. Oh, you know,

837
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 3: God spoke to you through that person. It's easy to

838
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 3: start to see the person as God and miss the

839
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 3: spirit that came through. Yes, listen, I've gotten messages from

840
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 3: Winos on the street that was like, oh that was

841
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 3: God just spoke to me.

842
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

843
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 4: So I've learned to.

844
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 3: Completely be when you when you listen and you're open

845
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 3: and you're here, you know, you know because and in

846
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 3: my life, if I praise something and like I have

847
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 3: friends who are praying for me, your prophet like Andy

848
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 3: will do you, God will send somebody to confirm the

849
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 3: exact prayer, the exact thought, the exact thing I'm going

850
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 3: through almost in the exact words.

851
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, he keep talking to he all in your business?

852
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: Right, So good, so good. So let's talk about something

853
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: that you and I talk about. My men. Oh lord,

854
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 2: I my man.

855
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

856
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: So for the longest, like you've seen me go through

857
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: different relationships and recently it was a night that we

858
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: all went to dinner after you moderated Michelle Obama's book

859
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: tour here in Atlanta, and you said, Crystal, you are

860
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: vibrating here.

861
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: Your man is here. And I was like, oh, you're.

862
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: Trying to tell me I'm a low vibrational tyler trying

863
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: to say and I was like, oh, I had to

864
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: think about that.

865
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, Like am I well? You know

866
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. You were like you're here and he's

867
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: up here. You gotta you gotta go higher, get yeah. Yeah,

868
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 2: And I was like, wow, that's crazy.

869
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 3: I was probably had a gummy that night, so I

870
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 3: was I give super spiritual.

871
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 4: When I'm on them gummies. But that sounds good, Okay,

872
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 4: go ahead.

873
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: It was really good.

874
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 4: Just five milligrams a week.

875
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 2: That's all I could do.

876
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 3: You know, if I try anything else, I'd be like no, no, y'all,

877
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 3: come get me going to the hospital. Five milligrad yeah,

878
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 3: but understanding yeah, And and having people meet you at

879
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: your work, that's what I was.

880
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: Yes, when you said that, we were one of our

881
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: many nights at your Island dollar in the King's Landing

882
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: room at the table you said you just hit you. You

883
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: probably was on the gummy there too. You was like,

884
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: meet me at my.

885
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: Worth and we were all like, wow, that's it. Yeah,

886
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: that's it.

887
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 3: And and and anybody who can't do that. That doesn't

888
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 3: mean they're not worthy of you. That means that they

889
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 3: need to either attempt try learn find out enough about

890
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 3: you to be able to figure out what that is.

891
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 3: And that's not money because because you listen a lot

892
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 3: of women, especially black women, And if I get in

893
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 3: trouble for saying this, but I will. In our society

894
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 3: right now, black women are making a lot more money

895
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 3: for the most part than black men. Right There are

896
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 3: a lot of black men who are successful, but for

897
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 3: the most part, black women are making the money. So you,

898
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 3: if you can find love, if that man works, you know,

899
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 3: at whatever job, and is a good man and is

900
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: good to you and honors and honors the house and

901
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 3: honors white and does what he can because his gift.

902
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 4: May not be your gift exactly.

903
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 3: That is okay. That's not somebody who's beneath you. That's

904
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 3: somebody who came to love you at your work, right

905
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 3: and as long as he's secure in himself to know that, yep,

906
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 3: she makes most of the money.

907
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 4: All I can pay is the light bill.

908
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 3: As long as he's comfortable enough to say, I'm gonna

909
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: cover the mortgage and all the other stuff you've handed

910
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 3: light deild.

911
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 4: Baby, you can take me to dinner and every now

912
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 4: and then. That is fine, Yeah, that's fine.

913
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's so hard for a lot of people

914
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 3: to take in because that means no, no, no, I

915
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: need somebody to who is I need?

916
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 4: They need to make five times more and I got

917
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 4: to have that. I got to have. Don't keep your list, baby, Yeah,

918
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 4: God bless you, hope it haven't. Don't keep your list.

919
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: But when you talk about just someone to love you

920
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 3: and support you, I know people who have who whose.

921
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 4: Men can't touch what they make.

922
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 3: But when you see them together, that love, that support,

923
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 3: that that I got you, babe, it's a beautiful thing.

924
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 2: It is, it is.

925
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: I remember I was having a conversation with you and

926
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: I was going, I can admit that I had fallen

927
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: under that, Like, Okay, I actually may have misunderstood what

928
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: meet me at my worth meant. I thought, meet me

929
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: at my work with meet me at my network network.

930
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 3: Right right now, network at least meet me at my network.

931
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

932
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was talking to you.

933
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: I was like and Tyl, I was like, this is

934
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: this is this and I've done this this and You're

935
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: like wait wait wait wait, wait stop he was like,

936
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: don't make it about money.

937
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 2: And this is when I was like, oh my gosh.

938
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: It was like like it just went off, and I

939
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: was like, I see what you're saying.

940
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 2: You were like, Chris, I do the same thing.

941
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: I would like be doing all these things for someone

942
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: or people around me, and I'm like, they're not doing

943
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: I'm not getting anything in return, you know. And we

944
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: fall into that sometimes. And you said, but then I

945
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: thought about it. They can't do for me the way

946
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: I do. It's just like they can't. You got when

947
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: you explained like that, if he is giving you all

948
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: these other things, then that's something you work with.

949
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 2: And I did.

950
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 1: I literally completely misconstrued, but meet me at my worth

951
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: end in that moment. But worth is more than that,

952
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: you know. And that's when I was like, Wow, this

953
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: is way deeper.

954
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: You got to remove the money from the situation because

955
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 3: it's just gonna cloud it.

956
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 4: And then you have your girlfriend and this friend.

957
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 3: Saying he's doing this and he ain't got that he

958
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 3: did you don't understand the love that we have for

959
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: each other. And that is what is important. And I'm

960
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 3: telling you there are some good men who can't meet

961
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 3: you at your net Worth.

962
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.

963
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 3: And if you can find a man who is secure

964
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 3: enough within himself to stand in that space, yeah yeah.

965
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 3: I'll tell you the story. Oprah tells the story about

966
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 3: her and Stepmen. She was they were in Hawaii and

967
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 3: she was walking. This is years ago. She walked in

968
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: the store. He was behind her and no, I'll tell

969
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 3: you this story. This is because I was there for

970
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 3: this one. We were coming out of the Color Purple

971
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 3: premiere in New York and it's Tina Turner, Oprah and

972
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 3: me and Gail. We're all kid in the car and well, listen,

973
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 3: that's when I first knew. That's when I first knew

974
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 3: something had shifted. Okay, wow, because Oprah walks out in

975
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 3: the scam Oprah, Oprah, Oprah, Tina walks out of Tina, Tina,

976
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 3: I go out of here.

977
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 4: I go oh, this was very early on.

978
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 3: So they're pushing us into the limo and I've turned

979
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 3: back and Steedman, the security is pushing.

980
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 4: Him out of the way, not letting him in.

981
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: Wow.

982
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 3: I watched him tap the man on the shoulder and

983
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 3: say hey. He goes, oh, oh, I'm sorry, mister Graham,

984
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 3: and he let him in the car. But do you know,

985
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 3: when I saw that man who's six foot six in

986
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 3: that situation, I went wow, look at the grace and

987
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 3: how he carried it. He didn't get a car with

988
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 3: an attitude. He wasn't mad, which takes me back to

989
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 3: the store in Hawaii when when they were in the

990
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 3: store and everybody swarmed around Oprah. He was watching protectively.

991
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 3: And after she was she was leaving the store, the

992
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: store owner, older person said to her, Listen.

993
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 4: I watched that man how he loves you. I watched

994
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 4: that man how his ore is all around you, making

995
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 4: sure you're okay and safe.

996
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 3: So so and stepman does well in life.

997
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't know nobody doing well as open

998
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 4: hell up, you know what I mean. Yeah, So it

999
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 4: can't be about the money. It can't be about the money.

1000
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: That was like, that was a good nugget that you

1001
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: gave me recently, And I was like wow, because you

1002
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: do get caught up into what your girls are saying

1003
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: and what society because.

1004
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 3: That's going to but that's that's and if you try

1005
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 3: to make it about the money, then it's always going

1006
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 3: to be about the money. And the money is you

1007
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 3: have to understand that when you start to make money

1008
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: and do well. That becomes a part of the perception

1009
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: of who you are, right, and that's okay. Yeah, that

1010
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 3: was the thing that bothered me about it only sees

1011
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 3: my money, only sees my money, and I'm a good person.

1012
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 4: Had to let all that go.

1013
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: Was like, well, the money is a part of your

1014
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 3: person now, so let that be wow, And that's okay, Yeah.

1015
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 2: It is now.

1016
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: When you started making money, we talked about money as

1017
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: a part of the person.

1018
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 4: Listen, that's a whole nother podcast.

1019
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 3: The financial literacy, Yes, yes, but the go ahead that's yeah.

1020
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: Even like with like family and friends, what did you

1021
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: go through when you start, because that's the thing I

1022
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: start to deal with now, you know, just the entire

1023
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 1: of and or like gimme, gimmy, gimme and the Rydom

1024
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: text message is and he like, I'm just waiting to

1025
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: ask me for.

1026
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 3: I had to tell yeah, because usually what happens is,

1027
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: you know, they don't, they don't talk to you forever,

1028
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 3: and then they're like, hey, how you doing. You've been

1029
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 3: on my mind. God told me to pray for you

1030
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 3: on my heart. I'm thinking, okay, ten nine eight, can

1031
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: you send me thirty thousand dollars because I need.

1032
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1033
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 3: And then I had another family member sent and it

1034
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 3: said there and I was hurt by it. I said, listen,

1035
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 3: you sent me a text asking for thirty thousand dollars.

1036
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 3: That's offensive, like call me see how I'm doing. Yes,

1037
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 3: And then and then I don't mind, you know, I

1038
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,479
Speaker 3: don't mind giving you the money. Well, this family member

1039
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: got offended, so I'll never asked you for nothing else.

1040
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 3: I was just after well, I was just saying, how

1041
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: how impersonal?

1042
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: The text is yeah, absolutely.

1043
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: A little while later, get another text I need, I

1044
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 3: need thirty thousand dollars the same person. And then the

1045
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: follow up text was make it forty tyler.

1046
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 4: I kid you not.

1047
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 3: And I was hurt by this, the fact that make

1048
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 3: it forty yeah, yes, just that it was just so

1049
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 3: blatantly like I'm just the money, right, Yeah. And I

1050
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 3: get to this place called it's this thing called compassion

1051
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 3: fatigue where you just gift, exhausted from giving, like and

1052
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: you and for me, I have to go away and

1053
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: pray and get myself back together because I get to get.

1054
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 4: My face kind of place, you know what I mean.

1055
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 4: So so I have.

1056
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 3: To go back and get right with that but having that,

1057
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 3: having you know, family members.

1058
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: You know, that's crazy.

1059
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just wonder how you deal on your level

1060
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 1: because nobody's calling me for thirty Well.

1061
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 4: Right, right, so let's go back. Let's go back.

1062
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 3: But you know what, I learned to accept them as

1063
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: who they are, and family doesn't necessarily have to be

1064
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 3: the people that are your blood. So I started surrounding

1065
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 3: myself with people who genuinely cared about me. Yeah, if

1066
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 3: we were on a boat on just someone, we're in

1067
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: our groups on the trips, if we're on a boat,

1068
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 3: if we're on the island for you know, these people care. Yes,

1069
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 3: they can't pay for it, but they're there because they

1070
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 3: want to support you and care for you. And that

1071
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 3: feels more like family. Yeah. So my family gets money,

1072
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 3: but they have to work or they won't get money,

1073
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 3: right because I'm not the bank and I'm not the government. Yeah,

1074
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 3: and I think it's important that people work. So working

1075
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 3: is so important.

1076
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 2: I agree.

1077
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 1: Was there ever a moment where you had survivors remorris

1078
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: where you the only person in your family that has

1079
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: made it, where you feel like, no, I feel bad

1080
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: that I'm the one that made it and everybody else

1081
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: did And so I got it.

1082
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: I have to do these things.

1083
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 3: First year I made money, I've went from being dead broke.

1084
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 3: I was twenty eight years old. I made one hundred

1085
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 3: and thirty thousand dollars. I was said, oh my god,

1086
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty thousand dollars. Got to the end

1087
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 3: of the year, had nothing to pay my taxes because

1088
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 3: I've given it all the way. Wow, that's so much guilt.

1089
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 3: But I've given it to all the family, all friends.

1090
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: Next year, I think I made a million and a half.

1091
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: Same thing happened again. Wow, next year I made seven million.

1092
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: Same thing happen again because I had so much guilt

1093
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 3: because I had and I think this is something that

1094
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 3: we as black people carry because of what we've been through.

1095
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 3: And when you have you think, oh my god, I

1096
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 3: need to bring everybody else up with me. That's a

1097
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 3: beautiful thought. But in the beginning that's bullshit. Take bullshit.

1098
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 3: Get take that out of your mind, because I'm going

1099
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: to tell you right now. If you have a boat

1100
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 3: that can help you get to one from this place

1101
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: to that place so that you can get a bigger

1102
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 3: boat and you can only take two or three people,

1103
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 3: don't let everybody on that boat, and you got to

1104
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 3: be also careful because when you put too many people

1105
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 3: on the boat, there's some trying to put holes in

1106
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 3: it because they wanted to sink, because they don't like

1107
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 3: that you're sailing.

1108
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you have to be careful, right, Or.

1109
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 3: There's some that are putting holes in the boat because

1110
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 3: they don't feel that there were of it. And I've

1111
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 3: had that too, where I was trying to pull people

1112
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: up to come on, come on this as far as

1113
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 3: we can. We've been together all these years. We can

1114
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 3: make this happen. It's gonna be wonderful. It's gonna be great.

1115
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 3: But the whole thing that I had to realize is

1116
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 3: that some people cannot survive at certain altitudes. So if

1117
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 3: you're pulling somebody up a hill, who when you get

1118
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 3: to ten thousand feet they can't breathe, You're going to

1119
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 3: kill them. Yeah, So it's okay to leave them there

1120
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 3: until they learned the conditioning of what it takes to

1121
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 3: be at ten thousand feet.

1122
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 4: Wow.

1123
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good, that's Good's true. I'm going through a season.

1124
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: I just did an episode called on Purging season and

1125
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: season three, and it was just about.

1126
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 4: Say that again. I'm sorry. Purging Season season.

1127
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: One, Yeah, yeah, season one.

1128
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: I did an episode called Purging Season and it's literally

1129
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: like God was just removing people like friends, family.

1130
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: It was just like, Lord, what is happening right now?

1131
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: And you're starting to see that, Like you said, people

1132
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: can't breathe the algietude that you're going to or you

1133
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: did a speech about it. I think it was a

1134
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: commencement speech on we talk about rocket boosters. Yeah, and

1135
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: I was like when you said that, that's exactly what

1136
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: came to mind when I thought about, Lord, what is

1137
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: this that you're taking me through right now? Because I

1138
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: felt like I was losing people I was really close to.

1139
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 1: But everybody can't go Yeah, you know, and you've.

1140
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 3: Ever seen a bunch of kids on America around it

1141
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 3: goes faster and faster and faster and faster and faster.

1142
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 3: What you find is that the people who are closest

1143
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 3: to the center can hold the tightest.

1144
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 4: The ones who are out.

1145
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 3: Toward the who are holding on are getting the most

1146
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 3: of the g forces. It's to they can't handle it. Yeah,

1147
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 3: So those people have fallen. So I called it the

1148
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 3: spind theory. Sometimes in your life you'll start to spend

1149
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 3: and you're spinning up to the next level and people

1150
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 3: start to fall off, and let me tell you something.

1151
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 4: It hurts.

1152
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 3: It's lonely, especially when it's somebody that you really really

1153
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 3: loved and had a great time with and wish that

1154
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 3: they could be there with you. But you have to

1155
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 3: understand and realize that that toxicity is poisoned to your wings.

1156
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 4: It will cause you to crash.

1157
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 3: So you have to be able to say I love you,

1158
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 3: but I'm sorry, this does not work for me. Then

1159
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 3: you get the shit all you boogie you changing what's

1160
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 3: Oh no, now you've got all this and you don't

1161
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 3: want None of that matters. Yeah, walk through the pain

1162
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 3: of the loneliness. Come tell you something. The higher you go,

1163
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 3: the smaller that circle gets.

1164
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 2: You're so right. Yeah, I'm just getting started.

1165
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 4: I see it, and it's okay.

1166
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 3: It's okay because I promise you, if you ask God

1167
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 3: to give you what you need, they show up.

1168
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 2: They do. Yeah, show up, And I have what I need.

1169
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: I do like, I really have a good core, and

1170
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: everybody that's around me, I know they love me, they

1171
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: support me wholeheartedly. We all have our own thing going on,

1172
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: and it's no jealousy.

1173
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 3: And that's what that's what you want, because jealousy will

1174
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 3: show up in ways that you didn't even expect it.

1175
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 3: And people who've been right up under you as long

1176
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 3: as you didn't exceed what they thought you could be,

1177
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 3: the minute you start to go higher than they believed

1178
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 3: you could go, it's ugly.

1179
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely, yeah, that's a real thing. And it

1180
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 2: is lonely. It is they say it's lonely at the

1181
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: top of it. Now, we're not lying.

1182
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 3: But here's what I had to learn how to do.

1183
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 3: I had to learn to get all of my friends.

1184
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 3: Nobody can give you all everything you need. So all

1185
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 3: of my friends were brought something. It's like a like

1186
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 3: you have a pot luck where you can bring everybody

1187
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 3: brings it something to eat, and some people may be

1188
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 3: able to bring fruit, something, bring vegetables something, bring chicken something.

1189
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 3: So I had all of my friends bring me something different, yes,

1190
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 3: so that I have all that I need. You can't

1191
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 3: get it from one person.

1192
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's so good. I love that.

1193
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: Denor had actually spoke on something recently that piggybacks off

1194
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: of what you said. She goes a lot of times

1195
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: when God brings people in your life, You're like, why

1196
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: am I not getting what I'm putting into this? Like

1197
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm pooring, I'm pooring, I'm pouring into this person, but

1198
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: I'm not getting it back. And she said that sometimes

1199
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: that person isn't put in your life to pour back

1200
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: into you. You're on an assignment to them. And if

1201
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: somebody else is going to bring you what you need.

1202
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 3: That's that's your one right, that's exactly right, and and

1203
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 3: you have to understand that when it's your time to poor,

1204
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 3: do that, yes, and hopefully that seed that you're watering

1205
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 3: will start to grow in that person. Because I've seen

1206
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 3: this like in you, like seeing you come up to

1207
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 3: this place of like, look I poured into an now.

1208
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 3: Look And I've got thousands of those examples in the

1209
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 3: studios like I poured it in look at them now.

1210
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 3: And it warms me so much because when you're pouring

1211
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 3: poor with pure intention, yes, and then you don't worry

1212
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 3: about being hurt if it doesn't work out. Just be

1213
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 3: pure and your intention. Don't let people change your intention,

1214
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 3: even if they give you their ass to kiss after

1215
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 3: you were trying to help them. Don't stop who you

1216
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 3: are going and help the next person. Yeah, you know,

1217
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 3: so that is so important, so important.

1218
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 4: That's really good. It's really good.

1219
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, she's been dropping some nuggets.

1220
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, girl, God is really talking to you and me.

1221
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 2: I love it.

1222
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: So I want to go back to some of your journey.

1223
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 1: You started off in the Childing's circuit with media plays.

1224
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: You worked your way up to owning your own studio.

1225
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 1: At the time that you were like doing The Smaller Place,

1226
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: what was it for like even actually, I want to

1227
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: go back to when you decided, like I was what

1228
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 1: was that in between phases, like right before things went crazy,

1229
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: Like when.

1230
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: You were doing the Smaller Place, What was that.

1231
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 3: Like there was no in between phases? Was twenty eight

1232
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 3: years old? Was twenty seven broke?

1233
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 4: Homeless? Twenty eight? I had been trying to do the

1234
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 4: show for seven.

1235
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 3: Years, and in nineteen ninety eight the show took off.

1236
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 4: So it was famine, famine, famine.

1237
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 3: Struggles, struggle, desert, desert, desert, Jesus. Then all of a sudden,

1238
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 3: it was abundance. It was the abundant rain pouring. So

1239
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 3: I went from ninety when I started in ninety eight.

1240
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 3: This is why I feel like I missed twelve years

1241
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 3: of my life though. I was working so hard ninety eight,

1242
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 3: at twenty eight, and I came I kind of came

1243
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 3: to myself at forty, like I woke up going, oh,

1244
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 3: you did it, but you missed everything because there's so

1245
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 3: many of those moments I don't remember. I was so

1246
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 3: laser focused on making the success work. And also I

1247
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 3: was afraid of going back that we talked about earlier.

1248
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 3: I didn't want to be broke again. I didn't want to,

1249
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 3: you know, I need to have my medicine for my mother.

1250
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 3: That's how it all started. I just need to if

1251
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 3: I lowered my prayer was older, just let me make

1252
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 3: enough money take care of her. And I had millions

1253
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 3: and it still wasn't enough in my mind. So I

1254
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 3: was still going really really really hard until she died.

1255
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 3: When she died, it had reset me, like everything I

1256
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 3: was pushing for was gone.

1257
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1258
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 3: But but those those times were so such a blur

1259
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 3: because I just worked all the way through.

1260
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 2: Do you have any regrets?

1261
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 3: Sometimes I do because I look, I feel like I'm

1262
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 3: twelve years younger because I went into this silo of

1263
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 3: working and I came out twelve years later of like okay,

1264
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 3: oh wait, this is what the world is, this is

1265
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 3: what Wait people, well they were enjoying themselves at these

1266
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 3: parties and oscars and award shows. I wouldn't you know,

1267
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 3: how I would walk in. I was like, I'm not Nope,

1268
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 3: this is worka workay, yeah.

1269
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 4: We're good. Back to work.

1270
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 3: Literally, So I feel like I missed twelve years of

1271
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: my life. Even though now I look back at some

1272
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 3: wonderful things happened, I'm telling you I missed them all.

1273
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 3: Like I'll see photos or somebody remind us you remember

1274
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 3: when I go, wow, you're.

1275
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, that's amazing.

1276
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 4: But instead of being fifty three, I'm forty one. There go,

1277
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 4: there you go, there go.

1278
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 2: I love it.

1279
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: What does a billionaire like you who has a busy schedule,

1280
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 1: what do you do for yourself?

1281
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 2: Like, what do you you know?

1282
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: A lot of players say like, I take this is

1283
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: my meantime, this is what I do.

1284
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 2: What do you do for fun? What do you do

1285
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 2: to like take care of tyler, of your body?

1286
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: I know you work out or do you like to travel,

1287
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: But like, what are things that you do Because a

1288
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: lot of people are like, you're working all the time.

1289
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 2: When do you have time for just you?

1290
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 3: You know, what people think that I'm a lot busier

1291
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 3: than I am. But because we work so fast, because

1292
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 3: I build in bricks, I don't try to kill myself

1293
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 3: like like I would have back then. But now no

1294
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 3: I building. I'm gonna work three months, really really hard, NonStop.

1295
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna exhaust myself and I'm gonna take two months off.

1296
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to my place in Wyoming or Colorado.

1297
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna walk through the woods and be in nature.

1298
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna talk to God. I'm gonna go down to

1299
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 3: the island. I'm gonna cry, I'm gonna pray. I'm gonna

1300
00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 3: lick my wounds to see who who stayed, who didn't. Where?

1301
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 3: Am I hurt? Am I okay? Am I feeling loved?

1302
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 3: Am I feeling supported? I check in with myself. I

1303
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 3: talk to God about it. It's so important. It's so important.

1304
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 3: But the biggest thing that I do, because I can

1305
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 3: do it every day that I'm working. It's just build airplanes.

1306
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 3: Build modern airplane. Yes, me and my me and my

1307
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 3: son will sit there and just he's loving it. Where

1308
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 3: you know, it's just it's the simplest thing. But to

1309
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 3: build something that will be able to fly. I feel

1310
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 3: like I'm teaching my son how to literally fly.

1311
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 2: Wow.

1312
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 4: So so those moments are really beautiful. And this kid,

1313
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 4: you see, you know, he's he's amazing.

1314
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, brilliant. Oh my gosh.

1315
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see where he goes and what

1316
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: he decides to do.

1317
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 2: His life is going to be amazing.

1318
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1319
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 3: And you know, whatever it is, I just want him

1320
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 3: to be the best at it and be happy.

1321
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 2: I love it.

1322
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, just be happy, son.

1323
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, because right now it's a race car driver astro that,

1324
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 3: and a track and field runner and a comedian.

1325
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 4: So I love it.

1326
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 3: We had a business meeting in my office a few

1327
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 3: weeks ago and I was asking him. You know, he

1328
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 3: was in the room when I was having all these meetings,

1329
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 3: and he comes, Okay, Papa's my turn to meet have

1330
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 3: see what do you want to talk about? I want

1331
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 3: to talk about my life and my career and what

1332
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 3: I'm going to do. It's like, okay, eight years old.

1333
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 2: I love it.

1334
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1335
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 3: So I recorded, and I can't wait to show him

1336
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 3: when he's older, like, this is what you wanted to

1337
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 3: talk about.

1338
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 2: That that is amazing. That's amazing.

1339
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: When you are dealing with things mental health, is really big,

1340
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: like a black community is like really honing in on

1341
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: it and understanding it more. We're more open to therapy.

1342
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: Who does someone like Tyler Perry talk to. You have

1343
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: someone that you can like say, hey, this is what

1344
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm going through Jesus.

1345
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, Oprah td Jake's you know I have. I have.

1346
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,919
Speaker 3: Michelle Obama. I have really good people who have been

1347
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 3: through some things. I used to talk to Sicily Tyson

1348
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 3: about things, just that level of history and lessons that

1349
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 3: she's learned. And Sidney Poitier. I went to the Masters. Yes,

1350
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 3: I was flying to Africa, and I invited both of

1351
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 3: them to fly with me. So I literally sat at

1352
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 3: their feet listening to their stories. You know, Clarence Avon

1353
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 3: died a couple of days ago, and he just was

1354
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 3: He was the Black golf he was and any time

1355
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 3: you needed anything or something put together this or presidents

1356
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 3: or that, he was the man. So you know, I

1357
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 3: had a chance to spend time with him. That that's

1358
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 3: just k Quincy Jones, These guys, Harry Belafante on the

1359
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 3: phone with him, That's what I mean that those those

1360
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 3: are the people. But all our legends are getting out

1361
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 3: of here. So so I'm hoping that, you know, more

1362
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 3: of us will be open to sharing. You know, when

1363
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 3: I told Jay jay z, he he is one of

1364
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 3: those people. It's like, listen, I got the information, come

1365
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 3: get it, you know. So yeah, but as so as

1366
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 3: of mental health goes, I tell you the main problem.

1367
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 4: That's how you look at the.

1368
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 3: Tobacco crisis, when everybody was talking about how cigarettes were

1369
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 3: in the beginning, they were safer, but people made billions

1370
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 3: of dollars on it. Then you look at all the

1371
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 3: other opioid crisis, crack cocaine. Right, there's another crisis that

1372
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 3: is happening that is affecting people's mental health in ways

1373
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 3: that nobody's talking about. And I'm hoping one day that

1374
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 3: it comes crashing down like the tobacco industry, like the

1375
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 3: opioid addiction industry, Perdue pharma, And that is social media.

1376
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 2: I knew you're going to say that, Oh my gosh,

1377
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 2: you are right.

1378
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 4: If you don't believe me, try to turn it off

1379
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 4: and put it down.

1380
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: I pick up my phone randomly, like right, I'll be

1381
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: doing something. Then before I know what, I'm just scrolling

1382
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: on Instagram.

1383
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 2: It's like a drug.

1384
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 3: Yes, and you're being fed whatever whatever algorithm you chose,

1385
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 3: because it's attached to where you go, where they are

1386
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 3: tracking everything you're doing, and whatever mood you're in, you're in,

1387
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 3: that's what it's going to enhance. Yeah, So if you're

1388
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 3: a person who's already struggling, sad and depressed and dealing

1389
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 3: with some things, it's going to be really, really tough

1390
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 3: to come up higher when you're constantly being fed things

1391
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 3: that make you sad and depressed.

1392
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about clinical depression. I'malking about people who

1393
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 4: are sad and depression.

1394
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1395
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I used to.

1396
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: I went through a phase where I had body dysmorphia

1397
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: because I would look on Instagram and I would see

1398
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: all these perfect bodies, whether it was plastic surgery bodies

1399
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: or just everything is perfect. Everybody's just showing the highlight reel.

1400
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: That's all you're seeing. You never seeing the downtimes. And

1401
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: I'll try to be more transparent with that because people

1402
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: just think our life is so perfect.

1403
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, it's nuts.

1404
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 3: And listen, I know a lot of those folks, and

1405
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 3: I'd be like, this your life for real, because that

1406
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 3: ain't what you're really going through.

1407
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 4: So it's just like Stop with the madness.

1408
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 3: Stop with the madness of trying to give this perfect

1409
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 3: image that everything's perfect, because they're people who are really struggling,

1410
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 3: who are really looking to these images and thinking this.

1411
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 4: Is how my life should be.

1412
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1413
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 3: Now, if it's aspirational, great, But if it's something that

1414
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 3: you know, damn well, you got thirty eight filters on

1415
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 3: two thousands, three touches and forty eight something else to

1416
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 3: make sure it looks great.

1417
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 4: Come on, I was that girl. Go ahead, digital botox.

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01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, all the things.

1419
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 3: I worry about it for my son who's not on it,

1420
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 3: who doesn't see it. He doesn't you know, he reads books,

1421
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 3: so I don't want him to be so unaware of it.

1422
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 3: But I want him to know who he is before

1423
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 3: the world starts to try to tell him who he is.

1424
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 2: That's so good. I love it. I love it.

1425
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: So when we talk about God and aligning your vision

1426
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: with God, how do you create the space for God

1427
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: to really like talk to you and say, hey, I

1428
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: know you said. Sometimes things get shaken up when you

1429
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: start to try to go against what God is saying,

1430
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: maybe because you see something totally different.

1431
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 4: Because your vision is not aligned.

1432
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 3: And I've learned to surrender to God's bit and I

1433
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 3: don't try to align have him aligned to my vision.

1434
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 3: I let the opposite happen. I'm like, Okay, where are

1435
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 3: we going? What are we doing? And I've learned so

1436
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 3: much God to trust you that this is the way

1437
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 3: I'm going to go because I don't want the resistance

1438
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 3: and the fighting of the other stuff. It's just to

1439
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 3: surrender to it. But again, I keep going back to

1440
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 3: social media because it is so hard to hear from

1441
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 3: God in noise. And if you are the type of

1442
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 3: person that is seeking advice from every friend you have online,

1443
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 3: every Instagram, every TikTok, if you're seeking advice, how can

1444
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,959
Speaker 3: you know the still small voice that I believe is God.

1445
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 3: That's why I have to remove myself and not be

1446
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 3: on anything digital and just listen to see what I hear.

1447
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 3: Walking in nature is the best way. I was out

1448
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 3: in Colorado and the wind just whispered past.

1449
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 4: I heard it. I thought it was.

1450
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 3: Traffic coming, because we're up on this out. I thought

1451
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 3: I was trafficing. Asked to God as a missed that

1452
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 3: the traffic. He said, no, that's the wind that's coming.

1453
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 3: And I heard it come that over the mouth down

1454
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 3: through the valley and come up over it, and and

1455
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 3: and and for me, that's like I how I think

1456
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 3: God will speak, like they'll be over there, just a

1457
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 3: little bit of something that you that you missed. Wow,

1458
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 3: and then there's another something. Okay, you missed. You missed

1459
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 3: the acorn, so now the branch has to fall. Okay,

1460
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 3: you missed the branch. Now the trees got to fall

1461
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 3: on you. Okay, you still miss that. The whole forest

1462
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 3: is burning.

1463
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 4: So I've learned to just when I see the acorn,

1464
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be like, oh no, no, no, no, let me

1465
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 4: get Let me.

1466
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 3: Get that, because I don't want the tree of the

1467
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 3: forest right, just give me the acorn.

1468
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: Oh that's good, because yeah, the whole forest be burning

1469
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 1: around me because I'm like, no, I see it this way,

1470
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 1: like I need to get better as surrendering, I always

1471
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: ask for God to order myself, but I still am

1472
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: very much like, Okay, this is the way I see.

1473
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go this way until God is like girl,

1474
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: get yeah.

1475
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 3: God, God in the Bible says, my thoughts of you

1476
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 3: are and of a good report, and that you be

1477
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 3: in health.

1478
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 4: And prosper as your soul prospers, right, So all of

1479
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 4: that's good. Right.

1480
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 3: So if your vision isn't aligned with what's good, then

1481
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 3: I don't know how that can be. God Right, that's

1482
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 3: so good, And what's good for you may not be

1483
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 3: the thing that you're supposed to do at the time,

1484
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 3: and that's.

1485
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 2: Normally would I be doing.

1486
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: I always do things that I don't be doing. And

1487
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: God's like, girl, we've been through this before. Why are

1488
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 1: you still doing the same thing.

1489
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 3: But let me tell you something. I really didn't understand

1490
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 3: the love of God until I had a child.

1491
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 2: Wow.

1492
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 3: And if God loves us more than I love my child,

1493
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 3: then I can't even wrap my brain around that.

1494
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 4: Because this, and he does because this.

1495
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 3: When I see him making a mistake or when I

1496
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 3: see him going the wrong, doing something wrong, I'm like, Okay,

1497
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 3: how do I correct him?

1498
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 4: How do I get him on the straight narrow? And

1499
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 4: I'm going to choose the level of correction based on

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01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 4: how hard he's going at it.

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01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, yeah, that's good. I love it. I love it.

1502
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: So we talked about you having vision as a little boy,

1503
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: So as an adult, what do you once you have

1504
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: that vision? How do you decid a God? I'm going

1505
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: to partner with you to bring this to life. Is

1506
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 1: it through prayer, through meditation, or just always keeping him involved.

1507
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 4: It's his vision. So you riding a law he gave it.

1508
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 3: Yeah you ain't. You ain't in partnership. It's his vision

1509
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 3: for your life. So it's it's it's surrendering to where

1510
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 3: is this taking me? That's the thing, like, where is

1511
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 3: this taking me? And that's why I'm saying the most

1512
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 3: frustrating part of my early life was having all.

1513
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 4: These visions and not seeing the past.

1514
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I could have did a million plays and

1515
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 3: never saw anybody ever saw never.

1516
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 4: God had to line all of that up for it

1517
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 4: to start to work.

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01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 2: Wow.

1519
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 4: And I had to be willing to get in the

1520
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 4: middle of it and go hard.

1521
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 3: That's why I missed those twelve years because I just

1522
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 3: I was in the world ill yeah still yeah, still,

1523
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 3: But I'm enjoying my life a lot more now. I'm

1524
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 3: enjoying them. I'm taking the moments now. I was just

1525
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 3: at an age where, you know, just running hard.

1526
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 2: I love you in this phase life, Yeah, happy and.

1527
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 4: Enjoying, Yeah, wearing nice clothes, going concerts. You know, got

1528
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 4: some blame things I never bought before.

1529
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 3: But yeah, yep, had my Zoops suits, my Steve Harbins

1530
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 3: suits back in the day.

1531
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 4: I was clean. Have my rabbit. They told me it

1532
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 4: was a mink, but it was a rabbit when I

1533
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 4: bought it a Green Briar.

1534
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 3: Did.

1535
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 4: I wanted that store still there. I need to go

1536
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 4: by this store.

1537
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 2: Just it probably is.

1538
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: It is hilarious, Tyler, Thank you so much. This is

1539
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: no I appreciate you.

1540
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 4: I am beyond proud of you.

1541
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 3: Thank you, so proud of thank you looking at you

1542
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 3: come through all of this, and I was right there

1543
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 3: with you the whole time.

1544
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 4: When you wake up in here, you're like.

1545
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 2: When I open those doors and walk in here, I'm.

1546
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 4: Like, this is my life.

1547
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 2: This is my life. Yeah yeah, and it feels so good.

1548
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah if it's things.

1549
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 4: So proud of you, Thank you.

1550
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Coming today.

1551
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: At the close of the show, we do what's called

1552
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: positive outcomes, where our viewers actually write into us and

1553
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 1: we're going to give them some advice. So our listener

1554
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: letter today says, Hi, Crystal, thank you for taking the

1555
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: time to help me. Lately, I've been feeling like I'm stuck.

1556
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,839
Speaker 1: It's like I'm being pushed to bigger and greater things.

1557
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: But I feel like I'm getting in my own way.

1558
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 1: My fear and insecurity keeps holding me back, and I

1559
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 1: feel my self battle with the fear of others, saying,

1560
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: who does she think she is by fully stepping into.

1561
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 2: Whatever it greater?

1562
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 1: Is the best way I can describe it is that

1563
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 1: feeling when I'm on the boat and God has called

1564
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 1: me to the water, but my fear of drowning is

1565
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: greater than my faith that God will help me float.

1566
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 1: So I'm just standing at the edge of the boat,

1567
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: not jumping. How can I get myself to jump?

1568
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 4: Go back and read again, read again?

1569
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Hi Crystal, thank you for taking the

1570
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: time to help me. Lately, I've been feeling like I

1571
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 1: am stuck. It's like I'm being.

1572
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 4: Problem number one.

1573
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 3: I have been feeling like I am stuck. She's speaking

1574
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 3: that I have been feeling like I am stuck. So

1575
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 3: you speak things into existence, power of life invested in

1576
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 3: the tongue. I have been feeling like I am stuck

1577
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 3: rather than I am not stuck. God, It's gonna make

1578
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 3: a way. I am not stuck. Going What's there something else?

1579
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 4: She said?

1580
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 1: She says, it's like I'm being pushed to bigger and

1581
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: greater things, but I feel like I'm getting in my

1582
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: own way.

1583
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 3: It's like I'm being pushed. No, I am being pushed

1584
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 3: to bigger and greater things, but I am getting in

1585
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 3: my way and understanding your own words here here when

1586
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 3: you maybe you give them the answers to yourself, I

1587
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 3: am getting in my own way. Well, why what is

1588
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 3: your motivation? Why are you getting in your own way?

1589
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 3: What did mama say? What did daddy say? What they

1590
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 3: say at school? What did the little girl? And you

1591
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 3: deal with? That makes you get into the way of

1592
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,839
Speaker 3: the successful woman that's trying to figure it all out.

1593
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 3: So you've got to go back and undo some of

1594
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 3: those voices. And every time you hear something negative. When

1595
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:19,560
Speaker 3: I was coming through all this stuff, every time I

1596
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 3: would hear something negative, be like, Nope, I'm not letting

1597
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 3: it in because I believe I can do this. God said,

1598
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 3: I can do this. This is going to be okay.

1599
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 3: It's all going to work out every time. Don't let

1600
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 3: negative voices in your head become your reality, because they will.

1601
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 4: They will.

1602
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 2: That is so true, she is.

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01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: And then she said, my fear and insecurity he was

1604
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: holding me back. I feel myself battle with the fear

1605
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 1: of other people, saying, who.

1606
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 2: Does she think she is about fully stepping.

1607
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 3: Into that my fear and is holding my fear is

1608
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 3: holding me back. Here's something you have to understand about fear.

1609
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 3: Fear and excitement can mimic the same emotions in you. Wow,

1610
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 3: so you can be excited but you think you're afraid.

1611
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 2: Yes, so you have to.

1612
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:10,440
Speaker 3: Be clear about what you're identifying, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1613
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 2: Good Wow, you helping me? My goodness?

1614
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 1: And it says the best way I can describe it

1615
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 1: is that I feel like I'm on a boat and

1616
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 1: God has called me to the water, but my fear

1617
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 1: here goes fear again of drowning is greater than my

1618
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 1: faith that God.

1619
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 3: Will help me float Yep, where did it come from?

1620
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 3: And let me tell you some fear is good. A

1621
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 3: healthy a healthy dose of fear is good to have

1622
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 3: because it keeps you grounded, it keeps you humble, and

1623
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 3: it keeps you praying. I never would have gotten to

1624
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 3: this place if I hadn't been afraid. Yes, every major

1625
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 3: decision was like, God, what if this doesn't work out?

1626
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 4: Do get that out of your head?

1627
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 3: Because you cannot be afraid because and as I the

1628
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 3: more and I say this to her, the more successes

1629
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 3: she has. Even if she looks back in her over

1630
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 3: her life. Nine times out ten, when I ask people this,

1631
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 3: that blows the mind. And look back and look back

1632
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 3: at your entire life and.

1633
01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 4: Tell me how many times God has let you down?

1634
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 4: Entire life.

1635
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, And if you really think about that, your future

1636
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 3: days should go.

1637
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 4: Okay.

1638
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 3: Even when I thought he let me down, even when

1639
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 3: I thought I had failed, even when I thought I

1640
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 3: had messed up, that was good for me so that

1641
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,799
Speaker 3: I could be in this position. Yes, yeah, I learned

1642
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 3: so much in the things that God didn't let me do.

1643
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 3: And when a door door is closed, that is not

1644
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 3: a no. Yeah, that that is there's another way, that's

1645
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 3: another path. It's like being an amazed when you hit

1646
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 3: that that brick wall. You don't you don't stop. You

1647
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:38,600
Speaker 3: could Okay, maybe I gotta double back. I gotta go

1648
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 3: this way, I gotta go this way. But you'll get there.

1649
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: Yes, yeh wow, that's so good. And her last question

1650
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 1: is how do I get myself to jump?

1651
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 4: How do I get myself to jump? Yeah?

1652
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 3: By undoing all of those voices that caused you to

1653
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 3: have those fe yes.

1654
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 2: That's good.

1655
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 1: Wow, Well y'all heard it from the man himself, like,

1656
01:12:58,520 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 1: I ain't got nothing else.

1657
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:00,080
Speaker 2: To add to that.

1658
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 4: That was good.

1659
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 2: He broke that all the way down. Wow. Thank that

1660
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 2: blessed me, my goodness. I only want to look at

1661
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 2: the door because I know she brought a crying at her.

1662
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 2: So the next thing we do is what I'm going for.

1663
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 4: I like that. Who bought you out? Go ahead, Darling?

1664
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 2: This came from the door chain the store and.

1665
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 4: Darling was somewhere where Darling was so long.

1666
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 1: Remember I had a rough night at sea and I

1667
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: was I couldn't get out to shop and my different.

1668
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 4: Tyler, Harry, that was a rough night.

1669
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 2: I got it.

1670
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, send it to a making shire make sure feel better.

1671
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 2: I did immediately.

1672
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,640
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I think I can get up

1673
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 4: now in a black car to make a girl get

1674
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 4: out of bed. Like everything. That's so good.

1675
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 1: So we also do what it's called what I'm going through,

1676
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 1: what I'm growing through, and in this season in my life,

1677
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 1: even based on things we've talked about, I am going through,

1678
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: especially right now we're on a strike, just stretching my faith,

1679
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 1: learning new things that I want to do, and not

1680
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,759
Speaker 1: putting all my eggs in one basket and just having

1681
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 1: faith that God.

1682
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 2: Is going to move.

1683
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 4: Is that going through? Growing through?

1684
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 1: This is what I'm going through? Yeah, right now, but

1685
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: then I'm growing Yeah, I'm growing through.

1686
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 2: Right now. I'm really growing through.

1687
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 1: And I feel like this is always growing through, not

1688
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: like having control of everything and a lot of things

1689
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,600
Speaker 1: to just be So that'd be what I'm just letting go.

1690
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about you? Are you going through?

1691
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 3: What I'm What I go through is just battling compassion, Padga.

1692
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 4: We talked as we talked about before.

1693
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 3: And understanding that that everybody's not going to get it, yeah,

1694
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 3: and being okay with that.

1695
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,600
Speaker 4: I still have to remind myself of that.

1696
01:14:54,600 --> 01:15:00,719
Speaker 3: That's what I'm growing through, or I would say going through.

1697
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 4: I'm actually pretty good. I'm really really good right now.

1698
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 3: I've lived these fifty three years and learned a lot

1699
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 3: of things, and all I want to do at this

1700
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 3: point is just take this wisdom, these things that I've learned,

1701
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 3: and share them with anybody who wants to receive them.

1702
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 4: Take them.

1703
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 3: But I also don't want to. Oh my god, the

1704
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 3: older you get. I see some old people who just

1705
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 3: that they are just impatient. The older you get is like, listen,

1706
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 3: I have one friend I've been trying to help for years.

1707
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 3: I was like, we've been over this. I've told you

1708
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 3: these things ten different times, because I never say you

1709
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 3: should do this. And when I'm giving advice, most times

1710
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 3: I let people talk so they can hear themselves work

1711
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 3: out the issues. But other times I'll say, well, if

1712
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 3: I were in your shoes, if I were here is

1713
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 3: my thinking on that. But after sharing and sharing and

1714
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 3: sharing sharing, and you still don't start making progress in

1715
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 3: that direction, Like you're wasting my time because there's somebody

1716
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 3: else who could be using that.

1717
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, take those nuggets you're giving an apply it. That's

1718
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 2: so true.

1719
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 3: And anybody who can get to me what I mean

1720
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 3: by that, it's like anybody who can get in my presence,

1721
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 3: Like I'm I say this in the best way.

1722
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 2: No, I know exactly what you mean.

1723
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm Tyler Perry, you know, and I'm a loner

1724
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 3: by nature. I like to be alone, and so when

1725
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:24,839
Speaker 3: people make their way into my life, I go, oh,

1726
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 3: you are clearly somebody God has sent for me to

1727
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:33,719
Speaker 3: pay attention to because you broke through all of that stuff.

1728
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 3: And you're this close, like, Okay, what am I supposed

1729
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 3: to teach your guy? Can't be selfish, can't be about you,

1730
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 3: no matter how tired, exhausted. Here's a moment. And because

1731
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 3: that moment may be something that saves or changes that

1732
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:48,719
Speaker 3: person's life.

1733
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a witness.

1734
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 1: I'm a testimony, a living proof example.

1735
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 2: Okay.

1736
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 1: And the last thing we do is keep it blank,

1737
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,480
Speaker 1: sweet because the show is called Keep It Positive, sweety.

1738
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 2: But we fill in the blank.

1739
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 1: And I would say keep it open minded, sweetie, because

1740
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 1: opening your mind to new things can get you further.

1741
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 3: I think we will say the same thing. I say,

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Speaker 3: keep it growing. There we go, keep it growing, just

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