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Speaker 1: And we welcome you into another episode of the Best

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Speaker 1: Podcast Available home edition. No home videos, nothing like that,

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Speaker 1: just us on some cameras on our laptops. But by

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Speaker 1: the way, we have microphones this week, fancye. We're living

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Speaker 1: the high life in our respective domiciles, and we are

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Speaker 1: bringing you the best podcast available the last couple of

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Speaker 1: days of March. Getting ready head into April and Draft

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Speaker 1: month officially upon us guys Andrew Grippled Nathan Sigura joined me,

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Speaker 1: and starting this week and every week leading up to

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Speaker 1: the draft, we'll give you our top five at each position.

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Speaker 1: I've challenged the guys, I've challenged myself. Frankly, Uh, it'll

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Speaker 1: be interesting to see how the this goes over the

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Speaker 1: next four weeks. But top five at each position this week,

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle and running back guys. Uh. The news since

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Speaker 1: we last spoke last week involves FaceTime, and you should

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Speaker 1: probably buy stock in FaceTime if you somehow can, because frankly,

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Speaker 1: it's just a service from Apple Games doing. I'm not

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Speaker 1: Apple guy. I'm Android guy. Green the green over here.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't even know what FaceTime. Absolutely not. I'm buying

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Speaker 1: stocking text messages tomorrow. Stop it gribble. Stop it. It's

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Speaker 1: already two minutes in. We're already done. Goodnight, every gana.

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Speaker 1: You got a painting of a cow over your shoulder,

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Speaker 1: which I haven't noticed before. I'm not gonna lie. There

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Speaker 1: might have been a set change apparently, so we're having

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Speaker 1: a little fun. This is what happens. So it's all good.

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Speaker 1: We have to change things up. We can't have the

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Speaker 1: same thing. We're in a house for the next thirty days,

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Speaker 1: at least, I believe. Aren't we supposed to be inside

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Speaker 1: until April? Now? I think that's probably what Apple is

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Speaker 1: thinking about twelve years ago, and they introduced FaceTime, Like,

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Speaker 1: we don't want to be stale. We gotta keep innovating.

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Speaker 1: Fund fund use my android. It works just fine. Thanks,

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Speaker 1: all right? Uh? Top thirty interviews normally done in person,

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Speaker 1: teams flying guys in for all days, sessions and meetings

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Speaker 1: from those. Unfortunately, no one's traveling buildings aren't open. They

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Speaker 1: have gone to FaceTime now. The rules of engagement involving

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Speaker 1: You can't interfere with their school work anyways. Those are

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Speaker 1: the rules of engagement on FaceTime And Gribble, I know

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Speaker 1: last week you had said it you have no sympathy

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Speaker 1: for anybody. We're all in the same situation. We're all

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Speaker 1: working from home. This is what we've become. FaceTime for

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Speaker 1: an hour a couple of times a week, visiting your

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Speaker 1: So sometimes maybe too much information can be bad. In

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Speaker 1: Uh running backs, defensive tackles, guys, that was my challenge

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Speaker 1: our top five running backs. Time now to move on

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Speaker 1: to defensive tackles, position that the Browns might address later

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Speaker 1: in the draft. But I think we can all agree

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Speaker 1: Ziggura probably not going to be on the first two

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Speaker 1: days of this draft. Now, now that you've brought Andrew

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Speaker 1: Billings into the man, you know you're probably not going

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Speaker 1: to go for a defensive tackle early. Maybe one later

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Speaker 1: in the draft, but you probably feel pretty good about

436
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Speaker 1: your defensive tackle room now with Sheldon Richardson, Larry Ogan,

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Speaker 1: Joe b Andrew Billings. And then you've got some guys

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Speaker 1: who are around last year, uh, some who played and

439
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Speaker 1: can certainly help this team developmental guys and see if

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Speaker 1: somebody emerges there. But I think you feel a lot

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Speaker 1: better about your defensive tackle room than you do probably

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Speaker 1: your defensive end room, I would say, overall at this point.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see how that all shakes out. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't expect the Browns to be active at this

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Speaker 1: position early in this draft. All right, GRIBs, what do

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Speaker 1: you at number five? Number five? All right? If you

447
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Speaker 1: forced me to do a lot of homework for this podcast,

448
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Speaker 1: and that was on short notice, I have a schedule

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Speaker 1: for the rest of it. I'm not exactly breaking down

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Speaker 1: D tackle film in my in my off time here.

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Speaker 1: So my number five choice was Novelle Gallimore out of Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: He's a Canadian, a former Canadian, top Canadian recruits in

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Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen, and I like him because I think

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Speaker 1: he's had to make some adjust mints to the American

455
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Speaker 1: game and has taken some time to develop. But I

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Speaker 1: think he's one of those where he's just starting to

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Speaker 1: scratch the surface, has already been a good, solid player

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Speaker 1: of Oklahoma. I think he is a good option as

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Speaker 1: the number five detac. That's pretty detailed grips. Good job

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Speaker 1: by you. Yeah, that might be better than anybody else

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Speaker 1: is going to do on this. It's a girl not

462
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Speaker 1: short changing you, but I am no, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I went with ray Kwon Davis from Alabama as my

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Speaker 1: number five defensive tackle. Charlie Casserley in his mock actually

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Speaker 1: had Davis going to the forty nine ers pick number

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Speaker 1: thirty one in the draft as a replacement for DeForest

467
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Speaker 1: bucket or and now I went in and he's six

468
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Speaker 1: six three or eleven pounds that had a monster season

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and seventeen, but kind of tailed off

470
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Speaker 1: a little bit over the last two years. I think

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Speaker 1: come after two thousands seventeen, people would have been talking

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Speaker 1: about him like they are with Brown and Kim Law

473
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Speaker 1: in this class. But still a big guy. He can

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Speaker 1: get to the quarterback and be disruptive at the point

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Speaker 1: of attack. And guess what lands aer lines player comp

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Speaker 1: for him? DeForest bucking or so wouldn't be interesting if

477
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Speaker 1: the man is able to make that trade grabby receiver

478
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Speaker 1: at thirteen and then snag snag rae Kwon Davis late

479
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Speaker 1: in the first round to replace literally the Forrest Buckner

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Speaker 1: with a the Forest Buckner cop. Not too chevy, is

481
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Speaker 1: what I would say. Uh, Justin Mattabuke. Yeah, we'll see

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Speaker 1: if that's right or now it's not a confident in it.

483
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Speaker 1: Uh Texas A and M defensive tackle. Uh. A kid

484
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Speaker 1: that's playing a lot of big games. Uh. Multitalented, Uh talented,

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Speaker 1: He's fast, he can get to the quarterback. Good, very

486
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Speaker 1: good tackler. Perk Uh Todd makes no mel Kuiper. Sorry,

487
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Speaker 1: I got my things all messed up. Mel Kiper has

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Speaker 1: him as a good tackler, outstanding tackler. So that's where

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Speaker 1: we're at. Number five, Justin Mattabuke from Texas A and

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Speaker 1: M's a girl. We'll flip it up. Who do you

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Speaker 1: got it? Number four is a girl I had who

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Speaker 1: GRIBs had a number five Neville Gallimore out of Oklahoma,

493
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Speaker 1: Canadian as he noted, who really flashes And I think

494
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Speaker 1: that's what scouts are gonna be intrigued by with him.

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Speaker 1: He has a lot of real good flashes on tape,

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Speaker 1: not a lot of consistency, so never made at the

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Speaker 1: point where he was considered one of the most dominant

498
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Speaker 1: guys in a in a conference where they don't play

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Speaker 1: a ton of defense, but has unbelievable athleticism. And he's

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Speaker 1: a he's a motor guy, has motor, never turns off,

501
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Speaker 1: but flashes that he needs to make more consistent at

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Speaker 1: the next level. If he does that, has an opportunity

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Speaker 1: I think to be a pretty solid player and disruptor

504
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Speaker 1: interior from the interior defensive line. Gribble, Who did you

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Speaker 1: have at number four? I've got defensive tackle Ross Blacklock

506
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Speaker 1: out of t Tu's projected as a late first rounder

507
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Speaker 1: and a lot of these mock drafts. And the interesting

508
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Speaker 1: about him that there's two things. One in achilles injury.

509
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Speaker 1: Uh that really kept him off the field for a year.

510
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Speaker 1: He dropped a lot of weight doing that and it

511
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Speaker 1: apparently helped his game. And he had a big season

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Speaker 1: last year with forty tackles, nine for lost three and

513
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Speaker 1: haf sacks. So he's very good. Also, his father Jimmy

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Speaker 1: towards the heart. Yes, yeah, that's some good. That's some

515
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Speaker 1: good jeans right there. Yes, maybe a member of the

516
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Speaker 1: Washington Generals if the NFL doesn't play out. Um, that's

517
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Speaker 1: a guy that I've seen everywhere from between ten and

518
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Speaker 1: ten to fifteen, all the way to thirty two and

519
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Speaker 1: even falling into the early second round. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: kinda he's been all over the place. Everybody seems to

521
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Speaker 1: like him, they just don't know where the fit is.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, yeah, he's a guy that it

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Speaker 1: does seem like he's going to go in the first round.

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Speaker 1: I think, you look, it's rare that you see a

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Speaker 1: mock or he doesn't get taken in the twenties by

526
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Speaker 1: somebody and and a talented player, and we'll just roll

527
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Speaker 1: right into it. He's the number three on my list.

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Speaker 1: Uh is Ross And I think you know he's he's athletic.

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Speaker 1: They say, you know, he's two pounds, so he's not

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Speaker 1: one of the huge guys, but he's athletic. And get

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Speaker 1: to the quarterback first team All Big Twelve last year.

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Speaker 1: And and so this is when I've seen Minnesota linked

533
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Speaker 1: to him a lot. I've seen Tennessee linked to him

534
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Speaker 1: quite a bit. Um, but again, another one of these

535
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Speaker 1: defensive tackles, but based on the consensus of things. I'm

536
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Speaker 1: seeing numbers one and two are in a different stratospheres

537
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Speaker 1: than numbers three, four, five, six, and so on so

538
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Speaker 1: on in this class. When it comes to the interior

539
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Speaker 1: defensive line, Basically, Zagur and I had the same numbers

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Speaker 1: one through four, just not number five. Scribble at number

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Speaker 1: three the one name that no one else had, please elaborate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've got Marlon Davidson because he won me over at

543
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Speaker 1: the Combine with his podium session, which was just incredible

544
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Speaker 1: first off. But I think secondly, he's someone that's not

545
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Speaker 1: getting enough credit because he played next to Derek Brown

546
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Speaker 1: at Auburn, and I think that he's getting maybe overlooked

547
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Speaker 1: and he wasn't able to produce on the same level

548
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Speaker 1: because of that. Uh. Here's a stat I liked about him.

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Speaker 1: Uh he blocked three kicks in a single season, which

550
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Speaker 1: I very much enjoy out of my defensive tackles. But

551
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Speaker 1: this guy would produce all four years at Auburn. Uh.

552
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Speaker 1: He's just a very solid defensive tackle. And I think

553
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Speaker 1: there was a reason that they entered the season with

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Speaker 1: one of the best defensive lines, if not the best

555
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Speaker 1: of into buying college football. He was a big reason

556
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Speaker 1: for it. And I think that playing next to uh

557
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Speaker 1: Derek Brown has maybe taking some of the shine off him,

558
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Speaker 1: and he I think he's a very good player. Yeah,

559
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Speaker 1: I agree, and I think we're all in We're all

560
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Speaker 1: in agreement. Number one is Derek Brown out of Auburn.

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Speaker 1: Number two Javon kin Law from South Carolina. And can

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Speaker 1: you make an argument, Gribble, I'll start with you, could

563
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Speaker 1: you make an argument to take kind Law ahead of

564
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Speaker 1: Derek Brown at all? Because we're starting to see a

565
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Speaker 1: couple of months and obviously we're now officially in silly season.

566
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Speaker 1: But is there a case or a scenario you can

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Speaker 1: see that happen. I don't. I don't see a scenario

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Speaker 1: at number ten. We're both are available. I just think

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Speaker 1: that one is going to be gone by the time

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Speaker 1: you pick it at number ten. And I have a

571
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Speaker 1: hard time even arn't making an argument that you take

572
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Speaker 1: one of those guys over an offensive tackle. I just

573
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Speaker 1: I just can't do it at this point in the draft.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe if both those guys are available number ten,

575
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Speaker 1: maybe you trade back because I'm sure another team might

576
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Speaker 1: be more interested in that position. It would just I

577
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Speaker 1: would think that there'll be a couple more moves coming

578
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Speaker 1: if you draft a defensive tackle number ten. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would agree with that. And look, these two guys

580
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Speaker 1: are both awesome. Derek Brown as a stud, uh you know,

581
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Speaker 1: Lands Airline said, this guy's got all pro potential, should

582
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Speaker 1: be a dominant starter right away year one, and with

583
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Speaker 1: kin Law six five, three, twenty, but incredibly athletic, and

584
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Speaker 1: teams and you know, teams are looking for the next

585
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Speaker 1: Chris Jones. That's what Bucky Brooks said. You know, we'll

586
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Speaker 1: take a hard, long look at kin Law. But Brown

587
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Speaker 1: is considered to be the most dominant of the two.

588
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Speaker 1: Kim Law first team All Americans last year, first Team

589
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Speaker 1: All SEC at South Carolina. These two guys, as I

590
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Speaker 1: was saying, it's those two and then everybody else is

591
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: competing to be three four five, But those two are

592
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Speaker 1: I think iron clad to be the first two defensive

593
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Speaker 1: tackles off the board in this draft. And look, you'd

594
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Speaker 1: love to see both of them go before the Browns.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Carolina, come on down, go ahead, take one

596
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Speaker 1: if you'd like. And maybe even Jacksonville is they've had

597
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Speaker 1: a lot of transition amongst along with their defensive one

598
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Speaker 1: with Clay's Campbell leaving town. But you know the combination

599
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Speaker 1: that the com for these guys, Michael Brocker's who's been

600
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Speaker 1: tremendous for in his career, there's just some there. These

601
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: are good, good football players and and at a safe position.

602
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Speaker 1: And what separates them and the reason you're gonna see

603
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Speaker 1: both of these guys potentially go in the top fifteen

604
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Speaker 1: is they're not two down run stopping defensive tackles. These

605
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Speaker 1: are guys that can be disruptive, that can get to

606
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Speaker 1: the quarterback, that can create pressure. And that's how the

607
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Speaker 1: shortest way to collapse the pocket now, especially in a

608
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Speaker 1: lot of this quick passing game that we're seeing is

609
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Speaker 1: right up the middle. That's why Aaron Donald is so

610
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Speaker 1: valuable and down's like Chris Jones was so dominant. Remember

611
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Speaker 1: you go back to the super Bowl when I think

612
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Speaker 1: one of the pivotal plays in the Super Bowl wasn't

613
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Speaker 1: a sack, but Chris Jones got pushed, got his hand

614
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Speaker 1: up and knocked down a pass. It would have been

615
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Speaker 1: an easy completion on that drive for the Niners. It

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Speaker 1: probably would have had that become a first downs the

617
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Speaker 1: game for them. And so that these those are the

618
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Speaker 1: kind of playmakers you're looking for a lot in the NFL.

619
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Speaker 1: This isn't in fact, it's rare to say, but it

620
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: certainly seems grips that you're going to see a defensive

621
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Speaker 1: tackle come off the board before an edge rusher in

622
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Speaker 1: this draft, which is not something that happens very often. Well, well,

623
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Speaker 1: that Chase Young and that's right after chasing. You're right

624
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: after chasing. Yeah, that's why it's Chase Young and everyone else.

625
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Speaker 1: But it's just I mean, there's that's why we were

626
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: we were talking with our marks for the Browns. We

627
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Speaker 1: you gotta find an edge rusher in the second round

628
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Speaker 1: because there there's I think there's gonna be maybe a

629
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Speaker 1: twenty pick gap between edge rushers in this draft. And

630
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Speaker 1: that's why it's it's just a weird year. It's an

631
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Speaker 1: off year. I feel like we were just a year

632
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Speaker 1: removed from there being a lot of them. It just

633
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: goes in waves. It's just weird how this happens. But

634
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Speaker 1: everyone's always trying to look for the next Day and

635
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: Donald or the next Miles Garrett, and it looks like

636
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Speaker 1: this year everyone's looking for the next Joe Thomas Well said,

637
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Speaker 1: look at that. Yeah, all right, those are top five

638
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Speaker 1: a running back, top five at defensive tackle. Before we

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Speaker 1: get out of here on a Tuesday, glad you will

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Speaker 1: us the final day of March of two thousand and twenty.

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Speaker 1: We hope you are staying home, staying safe, adhering to

642
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Speaker 1: the policies, staying six ft away from people, all that

643
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: social distancing, trying to hit some golf balls in your backyard,

644
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: maybe maybe playing golf by yourself in a golf card.

645
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: I don't really know. I gotta say today is the

646
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: first day I have not even gone outside. This is

647
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: the true I have sheltered in place today, a false sheltering.

648
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: I have not even breathed, taken a breath outside of

649
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Speaker 1: my house. Well, it sucks outside, so you're fine. You

650
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: have not missed anything today. Yeah, it's pretty brutal. All right.

651
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: I have two mocks that I wanted to get to

652
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: you both and get your thoughts on. Uh. And the

653
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Speaker 1: first one is from friend of the pod, Ryan Wilson

654
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: from CBS Sports, who's got a mock out today. Uh.

655
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Speaker 1: And it's a three round mock and he's got the

656
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: Browns wheelan and dealon and he's got the Browns trading

657
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: up to pick number thirty two, giving up number forty

658
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Speaker 1: one and pick number nineties seven to move up from

659
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: forty one to thirty two. So his two picks, speaking

660
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Speaker 1: of defensive tackles, he has his taking Javon Kinlat at

661
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Speaker 1: number ten, and he has his taking as Rare Cleveland

662
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: at tackle at pick number thirty two. Gribbs at first thought,

663
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Speaker 1: at first sight of this, your first thoughts, well, that

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Speaker 1: the part you didn't explain is that the reason why

665
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: the Browns drafted Javon Kimla at number ten is that

666
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: he has the worst nightmare unfolding. And that's four offensive

667
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: tackles coming off the board before the Browns pick at

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Speaker 1: number ten. And so let's hope that's not the case.

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Speaker 1: I would that would be if you're looking for one

670
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: of the top offensive tackles and not having a shot

671
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: at them, I would I would not be thrilled about that.

672
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: But I do wonder if in that unfortunate situation that happened,

673
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Speaker 1: would you then skit to then use that pick on

674
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Speaker 1: someone other than an offensive tackle or trading back to

675
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Speaker 1: get the guy that you really want. And that's where

676
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,719
Speaker 1: I wonder. I mean, we've talked about as your Cleveland

677
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: maybe being someone that's a sleeper there. But I would

678
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: wonder if you would risk it getting to that point

679
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Speaker 1: in the draft and waiting to go get him. Let

680
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: me just refresh my mind, because I believe in this

681
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: draft when he has the Browns taking Javon kin Law,

682
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: isn't it true? Easy? I know I don't like it either.

683
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: Isn't it true that Akuta is on the board? Shocking development? Yes,

684
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Speaker 1: So in that case, we're taking a Kuda. I don't

685
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: think there's I don't even think there's a question about it.

686
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: I know we have Denzel, and I know we have Greedy,

687
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: but band Eric Brown Nicol is a base that's a

688
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: base defense in the NFL. You're gonna have three guys

689
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Speaker 1: on the field, and I think you would take and

690
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Speaker 1: I think a Kuda is considered to be one of

691
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: the best corner prospects in a long time. So I

692
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Speaker 1: don't think it's it's either a no brainer to me

693
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Speaker 1: that it tend you would take a Kuda, or you

694
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: would go ahead and and put a Kuda up basically

695
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: the trade block and see what you could get to

696
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: move down the coming back up to get Ezra Cleveland.

697
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: That makes a ton of sense because he missed out

698
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Speaker 1: on you know, the top guys. Although I consider Josh

699
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: Jones and a lot of people think Josh Jones is

700
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: a great fit for the Browns out of Houston. You

701
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: can maneuver around in this first round. But I really

702
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: think if tends on the board, you're either taking a

703
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: Couda or holding an auction for Akuda and getting an

704
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: offer that that you feel you can't refuse. Yeah, it

705
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: really is the worst case scenario that I mean, But yeah,

706
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Speaker 1: it could be a great thing. If Akuda was on

707
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Speaker 1: the board at number ten, I would think you would

708
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: run to the podium. Uh, he's got wills going to

709
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: the Giants. Pick number seven is the wild card. Tampa

710
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: Bay moves up and flips with Carolina. I can't imagine

711
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: Carolina and Tampa Carolina doing Tampa any favors. Since they're

712
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: in the same division. We should probably look at that too. Uh,

713
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 1: they've got it, and he's got them taking worse. Andrew

714
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: Thomas gone at number eight and number nine Beckton goes

715
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Speaker 1: off the board, so four offensive tackles gone. I just

716
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: can't see us taking a defensive tackle, even if for

717
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: some reason back that if they were all gone. I

718
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: don't well, but even like I don't know, say a

719
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: Couda has gone too. But then I think you're shopping

720
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Speaker 1: the pick for a quarterback because the only other people

721
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Speaker 1: off the board at that point aren't the quarterbacks. If

722
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Speaker 1: if okay, I think we need we can, I think

723
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Speaker 1: three quarterbacks are gonna go. So four offensive tackles go,

724
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Speaker 1: that's seven. That means out of Chase Young, Akuda, Isaiah Simmons,

725
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: and Derrick Brown, there could only be a couple of

726
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: those guys gone. Right, And if somebody jumps up. A

727
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: lot of people think somebody's gonna take a receiver in

728
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Speaker 1: the top ten. I think everybody's sleeping. I know this

729
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: shi class is good, but if you pick it in

730
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: the top ten and you want to receive a playmaker

731
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: for your young quarterback, you're not gonna Yes, you can

732
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: get a good one in the second round, but when

733
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Speaker 1: you want to take the best receiver in the great

734
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Speaker 1: receiver class. Sure, So I think that it's if four

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Speaker 1: tackles go, it's gonna set up pretty well for the

736
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Speaker 1: Browns and the fact that somebody very very good on

737
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: the board is going to come to them. But I

738
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Speaker 1: don't think. I really don't think this is gonna happen.

739
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Speaker 1: I don't envision this happening at all. No, I would.

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Speaker 1: I would certainly hope not. I hope you get one

741
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Speaker 1: of the big four tackles that are on the board. Indeed, now,

742
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: could you see the Browns moving up to thirty one

743
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Speaker 1: or thirty two, maybe even number thirty, trying to move

744
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: into their late first round, giving up a couple of

745
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: assets later in the draft. Gribbs, maybe, but you're not

746
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Speaker 1: carrying the same cloud that you have in these past

747
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: couple of drafts. You only you only got seven picks

748
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Speaker 1: in this draft. We're not talking about the double digit

749
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: era of the last few years, So it would you

750
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: usually takes a decent amount to move into that spot,

751
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: So I would, I would say no, And I certainly

752
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: hope you're not having to do that to get your

753
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: future starting left tackle. A girl agree. I mean, I

754
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: think there's some appeal to it, right, You get the

755
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: fifth year option, and teams at the end of the

756
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: first round are often more amenable to moving out. You know,

757
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: we got a third round pick, uh that compens story

758
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: pick from the Texans and the Duke Johnson trade. Could

759
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: you could not forty one and nat pick be enough

760
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: to get up there to get somebody you really really wanted. Maybe, Um,

761
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: so you don't want to see it because we I

762
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: think we do need to add some quality players because

763
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: you look at this roster right now, and you know

764
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people on one year deal,

765
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: so you're gonna need to have some you know, succession

766
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: planning going on all over your roster, and the best

767
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: way to do that is identify guys in the draft.

768
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: And this is a draft where you know the first, second,

769
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: and third round are gonna be really loaded with talents.

770
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: So to get four guys in those rounds would be

771
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: much more ideal than than not. Alright, Chad Reuter on

772
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com with him with a mock out, it's

773
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: a four rounder. He's got us taking Andrew Thomas at

774
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Speaker 1: number ten, with Isaiah Simmons still on the board at

775
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: that point and going number eleven. That's a decision that

776
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: I don't uh. I'm glad I don't have to make

777
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: that decision. Andrew Thomas at number ten. He's got to

778
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: stake in the guarded four. You want a linebacker at

779
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: seventy four, safety at nineties seven and a defensive tackle

780
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: at one fifteen. Going back to what we've been talking about,

781
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: you probably have to go get a defensive end in

782
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: that second round and not a guard. Ribs. Yeah, the

783
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: guard is the one that I I scratched my head at,

784
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: and I agree that the situation he has unfolding where

785
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: the Browns have to make a choice between Andrew Thomas

786
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: and Isaiah Simmons, I don't want to make that decision

787
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: like that. That's a that's a tough one. But if

788
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: if if Thomas is the guy you identify as the

789
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: best fit for this offense, I think you've got to

790
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: make that pick over Simmons. The reason why we get

791
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: to this situation, though, is because he has Henry Ruggs

792
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: the third going eight to the Denver Broncos, who traded

793
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 1: up with the Arizona Cardinals in the spot, which is

794
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: is interesting because you think the Cardinals would want to

795
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: secure something there, but they're probably getting a nice little

796
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: return on their investment now. In this draft, though, if

797
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: you would tell me, okay, you said, we don't get

798
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: the trade out of our picks. According to this particular draft,

799
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,959
Speaker 1: we can take a Simmons ten and still get Ezra

800
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: Cleveland at forty one. Sign me up for that. I'll

801
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: take that all day long. Sign me up right now.

802
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: I think Isaiah Simmons is just that dominant of a player.

803
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: I think it feels a huge need for us. I

804
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: think he would come in and play linebacker in this

805
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: defense alongside Mack Wilson and Sienna Taki Tacky, and I

806
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: think that's a massive need. And he's a guy that

807
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: you could play all over the place. And you're getting, really,

808
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: I think, a top five talent in this draft. If

809
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: not maybe you know, top two non quarterback talent in

810
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: this draft. So if he's there, I would have to

811
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: think long and hard about it and just know that

812
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: I could make a move for offensive tackle. But it

813
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: eliminates the opportunity to get one of those defensive ends

814
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: in the second round. And in this particular draft you

815
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: have guys like a. J. E. Penezza would still be

816
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: on the board, Bradley and I out of a Utah.

817
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: So there are still good players. My guy, your turg

818
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: Rosmatos has already gone, your guy that you had going

819
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: to the Browns, and your most recent mock, Terrell Lewis

820
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: goes to pick before pick forty. But if Isaiah Simmons

821
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: is there, I think you you've got You've got to

822
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: pull the trigger on him, and there there will still

823
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: be some good tackles available to you, And in this case,

824
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: you would have ended up with Ezra Cleveland with two.

825
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: I know people are pretty high on as well. I

826
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Speaker 1: can't imagine some Browns fans will be happy about taking

827
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: the L s U guard over the L s U

828
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: cornerback Christian Pulton and L s U safety Grant Delpit.

829
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: I think the Browns. I think the Browns are happier

830
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: with Teller Forbes at that right guard position than the

831
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: outside world believes the Browns are. And I think when

832
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 1: you got Bill Callahan here, you're gonna have basically four

833
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: no well three known studs, one guy that if if

834
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: you dress to tackle at ten, let's say, or early

835
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: in the second it's not forget Mitchell Schwartz was the

836
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: second round pick. There are plenty of tackles their second

837
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: round picks, and they have wonderful careers in the NFL.

838
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: But you you would have four guys that have real pedigree,

839
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: and then you've got Forbes and Teller, who you know.

840
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: With Bill Callaghan. That's why you brought him in here

841
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: to get the most out him. I think you feel

842
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: pretty good about that. I think that is real estate

843
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: that is not going to be used on the Guard

844
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: four to be one. I just don't see that happen,

845
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: all right, Just a couple of silly mocks, silly season.

846
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: Officially here on this line, stay of March, and we

847
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 1: are about twenty four days away from the two thousand

848
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: twenty NFL Draft. Before I let you both go. From

849
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: former front office executive Michael Lombardi throughout the NFL, we

850
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: kind of know him a little bit. Would you rather

851
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: have Jared Goff at thirty five million for five more years,

852
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: Cam Newton on a one year deal, or Jamis Winston

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Speaker 1: on a look and see deal? Is a girl, I

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Speaker 1: want you to go first because I'm hoping group will

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Speaker 1: just Nuci in half. And it's it's an easy answer

856
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: for me right now, because you're talking about the finances

857
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 1: association associated with it as a part of it, and

858
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: if I'm with my franchise, to me, the answers are

859
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: either Goff or Jamis Winston. I think Cam Newton you'd

860
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: have to have a Super Bowl ready roster like if

861
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Speaker 1: I was the Bears, I would say Cam Newton, but

862
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it and use I'm not gonna say

863
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm not the Bears. I think James's is crazy talented.

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00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: I knew we throw a lot of picks. We had

865
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: somebody on Brown's Daily yesterday who was talking about Luke

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00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: Easterly talking about Jamison, the respect he had in that

867
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Speaker 1: locker room, and that you know there are guys there's

868
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: you cannot tell me. And this maybe helps Gribbs in

869
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: his taco bet that that I'm gonna be feasting on

870
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Speaker 1: when the Bucks go to the playoffs. But Mike, there's

871
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind. Mike Evans and Chris Godwin

872
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: when they found out the news are sitting a room

873
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: and they're like, are we gonna have seventeen yards to

874
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: catch and be catching bombs like we were from Jamis.

875
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: Jamis over five thousand yards last year, five thousand yards.

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Speaker 1: He's a talented player. I think he's more talented than

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff. So to me, that's the decision. I'll roll

878
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: the dice on Jameis Winston. I'm not rolling the dice

879
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: on Jamis Winston. I'm in a weird spot where I'm

880
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: probably rolling with Cam on this one year deal because

881
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: I think people forget how insanely talented he is, and

882
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put faith in the fact that he has recovered.

883
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: I also think he brings more value to your locker

884
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: room and your franchise into If you're at the l

885
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: A Chargers, Cam Newton means a lot more to you

886
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: and what you're trying to do as a business than

887
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: than some of these are quarterbacks. And I think the

888
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 1: argument for Jamis is one that I just it blows

889
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: my mind that people can defend the interceptions. This is

890
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: a fantasy football argument for Jamis Winston. He made everyone

891
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: happy from fantasy football and excuse their perception on what

892
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: he does. I mean, think of the season we went

893
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: the Browns went through with the Shawn Kaiser in the

894
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: amount of interceptions he threw and how many terrible positions

895
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: that put your team in and how hard it is

896
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: to win games when that happens. James threw more interceptions

897
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: than that, and that I think that it made their

898
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: defense look way worse on the paper than it should

899
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: have been. They're putting impossible situations. I just think, and

900
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: I'm going from a coach perspective, I just think a

901
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: coach cannot wrap their head around a guy throwing that

902
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: many receptions. I just think they can't confidently put them

903
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: out there just for just a little bit for the

904
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: sake of for his career. He still has a three

905
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: to two touchdown interception ratio. So last year was obviously

906
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: all time bad thirty and the prior to seasons combined

907
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: he threw total So I think that was a little

908
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: bit of anomally. His ability to throw the ball down

909
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: the yard eight yards per tempt, all of that high

910
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 1: complete percentage, that's not an anomaly, and there's a reason

911
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: this guy coming out was certainly more highly regarded than

912
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: golf reception problems at Florida State too, he did he

913
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: had no yes turnover pump, There's no question about that.

914
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: There's no doubt Cam Newton. I think you'd have to

915
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: have a specific system and operation that was built for

916
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: what his strengths are, because you're not gonna be able

917
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: to run if you're trying to run a drop back

918
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: passing game or a pinpoint accuracy precision passing a game,

919
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to run with Cam Newton. Now

920
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: you should be able to build your offense to him

921
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: because he's insanely talented. But that's why for me, if

922
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm the Bears, that's why I don't understand this. I

923
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: understand what some teams seems are doing. If I'm the

924
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: Bears are on the Chargers, I want Cam Newton because

925
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: I think I can win a Super Bowl. And I'll

926
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: say this, I get it. I threw Jamis under the

927
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: bus there in this hypothetical m ranking of number two.

928
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: I'm not taking on that golf contract unless I'm getting

929
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: Seawan mcveigi. I'm gonna say this. I've said it before,

930
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it again, and I have no problem

931
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: saying it. If I'm the Miami Dolphins this year. This year, okay,

932
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm signing Jamis and I'm gonna get Isaiah Simmons or

933
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: Akuta at five a superstar. I'm gonna get a stud

934
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: wide receiver in this draft for him to go along

935
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: with DeVante Parker, and I'm gonna get a stud offensive linemen.

936
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get one of the top defensive players in

937
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: this draft, a very good offensive tackle, and a stud

938
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: wide receiver because that's where this draft has depths for

939
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: me and roll jamis out there and let's see what

940
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: we can do. And I have a feeling he goes

941
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: back to Florida, maybe he resurrects his career, but you can't.

942
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: I think he's every bit as same level of a

943
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: gamble right now as to oh when. I don't know

944
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: exactly how healthy to wins, nor do I know if

945
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: too we can withstand the rigors of the NFL, and

946
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: if he's good, here we go. Guy's twenty six years old,

947
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: and I think he's being written off. It's mind boggling

948
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: to me with some of the people that they're rolling

949
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: out there. And if he's not, then we can go

950
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: ahead and get him out of there, sit him down,

951
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: and let's go ahead, and here comes Trevor Lawrence down

952
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: the pipe. Let's go. You'll win a Fantasy title and

953
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: you'll go six and ten with that team, With the

954
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: way Flora's coaches and with that defense, I don't think

955
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: you will go I don't think you have to go

956
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: six and ten. If he goes out there and throws

957
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: thirty touchdowns and fifteen interceptions, you're gonna do a heck

958
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: of a lot better than six and ten and with

959
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: that team with Parker, let's add we're gonna add Ceedee

960
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: Lamb to that mix, and then we're gonna add you've

961
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 1: got Jesseki the tight end. You bring in another good tackle.

962
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: You've got a pretty good makings of defense because you've

963
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: got Simmons or a couter running around now on your

964
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: defense sideball, that division is right for the taking. I

965
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: feel like you can go in there and say, Oh,

966
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: Jared Sidham, how are you doing, Josh Allen, how you doing?

967
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: Sam Darnalad, how you do We can compete with that.

968
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: We can win this division for the Miami Dolphins. Now,

969
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: I've said a lot of negative things about Jamis. I

970
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: do think he should be a starting quarterback. Though him

971
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: and Cam should be starting games this year, pent no doubt.

972
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: All right, I've done my done my due diligence. I've

973
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: thrown a little gas on a little fire. Have a question, though,

974
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Speaker 1: what is the name of the pig in this painting? Now?

975
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize. I saw the cow earlier, and

976
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 1: now I see that's a half of a pig face.

977
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: Have you name these animals? What's the deal? Absolutely not.

978
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: I that's my wife's job. That is not mine. She

979
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Speaker 1: is the interior decorator. It's a nice motif. It is

980
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 1: a nice motif. It is great. It frames your head perfectly.

981
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: They're both kind of like looking at you. It's wonderful.

982
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie when I said my wife literally

983
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: sat here and built this set, and she's like, next

984
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: week we're gonna build another one. It was like, make

985
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: sure you've got one of these, all right. That's that's

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Speaker 1: gonna wrap up this week's edition of The b p

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Speaker 1: A for a Tuesday. We're back with you on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Gribbs and I are as we get closer to the

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Speaker 1: two thousand. It's twenty NFL Draft Special. Thanks to Nathan

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Speaker 1: Gura for his time. Thanks to Jeff McDaniel, Thanks to

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Speaker 1: Paul Taylor, Thanks to you for watching, Thanks to you

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