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Speaker 1: Good news everyone.

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Speaker 2: I listened to The Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 2: Rod and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to another episode of The Black Guy to

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Speaker 1: his podcast. I'm your host, Rod Joint is always on

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Speaker 1: co host and we're live on a Tuesday, doing the

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Speaker 1: show a little early because it's not gonna be long,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to the Horners game, so you know.

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Speaker 3: It's like, that's why I was surprised.

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Speaker 1: Was surprised, y'all. She was shut okay, and she doesn't

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Speaker 1: even know what this episode is about. Nope, this might

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Speaker 1: be one of the pettiest episodes we've ever done.

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Speaker 3: Oh shit, now do I need to get in my bag?

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Speaker 3: What's happening?

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Speaker 1: So we got this email and normally I wait till

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Speaker 1: feedback time, but sometimes the stuff you deal with putting

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Speaker 1: your opinion out in the world.

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Speaker 3: It's really fucking crazy.

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Speaker 1: And we got this email and I don't think the

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Speaker 1: person is necessarily being mean, but it's this weird level

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Speaker 1: of like gas lighting. It bothered the.

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Speaker 3: Hell out of me.

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Speaker 1: And I said, you know what, why wait till Saturday.

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Speaker 1: It don't take long to clear this up. We can

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Speaker 1: get to the truth of the matter today.

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Speaker 2: Okay, See I don't know because I was like, you know,

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Speaker 2: how ever, get on work.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, you gonna go to the

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Speaker 3: one of this game. Roger was like, let's do the show. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I guess.

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Speaker 1: All right, put the battery in my back. So this

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Speaker 1: is from Julie. I won't give her full name because

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Speaker 1: I feel like you'll see later from the email. This

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Speaker 1: is the kind of person that will definitely, even with

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Speaker 1: this episode, is gonna twist things that we say and

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Speaker 1: try to act like we went super bananas and attacked

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Speaker 1: and shit, but we didn't. But here's the headline. I

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Speaker 1: really love your podcast and generally agree with most of

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Speaker 1: what you Then that's the title. But I assume there's

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Speaker 1: a hitting butt that was coming. It just didn't get

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Speaker 1: typed in the title. I do have to say, enjoy

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Speaker 1: your perspective, however often bristle, and how easy it seems

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Speaker 1: to be to attack people who are older who make

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Speaker 1: commentary on millennials or whoever they are. I am working

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Speaker 1: a full time, sixty hour week job at the age

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Speaker 1: of sixty five because I have I have to, because

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, everything I worked for was

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Speaker 1: destroyed and I'm still trying to quote, build back better,

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Speaker 1: How about everybody? I have a little empathy and realize

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Speaker 1: that shit is hard for everybody out here. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: know boomers are assholes and entitled, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: I guess millennials are not. I just want people to

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Speaker 1: know these are words that didn't come out of our mouths.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sorry that you lost everything in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and eight and have to continue to work at sixty five.

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Speaker 1: You know, the whether it was the subprime mortgage situation,

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Speaker 1: least I did for sure, whatever people have had to

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Speaker 1: deal with. You know, life ain't fair and life is

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Speaker 1: hard for everybody. But we got to keep it in

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Speaker 1: the context. When we're talking out we're talking about comments

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Speaker 1: from Whoopy gold Bird, right, an older woman who called

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Speaker 1: millennials lazy and titled and all this shit. So this

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Speaker 1: is not us just talking about older people.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: We didn't just go, oh, okay, boomer. We don't say

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Speaker 1: stuff like that on our show. You know what, you've

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Speaker 1: never heard on this show us make fun of Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden's age now, And I'm not saying it because I'm

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Speaker 1: such a good person. The truth of the matter is,

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Speaker 1: I don't say it because I think it's hack. I

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Speaker 1: think I'm above that. I think my jokes are funnier

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Speaker 1: than people that just go Joe Biden's old. I feel

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Speaker 1: like every fucking stage comic, every road and street comic

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Speaker 1: can do that. The other day, I was getting DMS

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Speaker 1: from a friend mutual friend of the show and stuff,

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Speaker 1: and he was doing these Joe Biden old jokes, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, Yeah, it's just that you better than this,

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Speaker 1: So I can't give you a cursory laugh at this

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Speaker 1: You know, we've also talked about what be on here

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Speaker 1: isn't us coming out of nowhere doing we hate old

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Speaker 1: Sorry that I had to do this, but you didn't

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Speaker 1: The lack of empathy towards people who are over the

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Speaker 1: this podcast when Yeah, that's wild to me that you

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Speaker 1: You know, I talk about how my parents knew before

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Speaker 1: you know, stuff like that. This ain't a show of us.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even I'm forty five. I'm not cool, like

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Speaker 1: people man. You know, Karen is the oldest soul you're

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Speaker 3: And I have a question. I guess my thinking, what

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Speaker 2: Because you're saying we're saying things that we are not saying.

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Speaker 2: So are there people, places and things? Are you online?

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Speaker 3: Are you hearing these things and you taking these things

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Speaker 3: you amplifying? What are you hearing? Because because we're not saying,

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Speaker 3: you wrote us.

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Speaker 1: You didn't write the internet, you wrote us like we

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Speaker 1: said these things. I've never said this shit in my

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Speaker 1: motherfucking life.

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Speaker 2: We do not badge people because they, oh, we make

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Speaker 2: jokes and things of that, but we make jokes on everybody.

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Speaker 1: But yesterday, when we were talking about what we weren't

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Speaker 1: making jokes about people being old. Peer dude, it appears

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Speaker 1: that you want us all to just shut up or die,

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Speaker 1: or possibly both. We're still here, though we're still working,

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Speaker 3: We have never said that shit. No, this is not

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Speaker 3: for us.

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Speaker 1: Like many of us are sixty five, are taking care

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Speaker 3: A lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Trust me, love the show I've been supporting monthly for

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Speaker 1: ten years. All the best, Julie, Julie, I hate to

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Speaker 1: tell you this, but you lying on us, and I

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Speaker 1: don't appreciate it. We never said your feelings don't get

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Speaker 1: to be my reality. You understand what I'm saying. Because

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Speaker 1: so much. In fact, that's why we're doing this show today,

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Speaker 1: because I said, fuck it, let's listen to what we said.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm tripping. Maybe we said that shit. I forgot

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Speaker 1: that we said that shit. It was just yesterday. Who knows,

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Speaker 1: But let's go see how uncharitable we were. It would

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Speaker 1: be Gobert. The episode was twenty eight oh three achievement unlocked,

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Speaker 1: suggesting that poor work. And it's the part we were

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Speaker 1: I went and looked it up. Let's listen to it again.

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Speaker 1: Let's see how I mean. You probably don't talk like

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Speaker 1: ten twenty minutes about this. We'll positive interject our commentary,

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Speaker 3: Authorized to be on the app, and like somebody.

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Speaker 1: Else, doesn't come that fast, A little bit of so

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Speaker 1: We go, so I ever wondered why it is?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So I don't know. Man,

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Speaker 1: that's us talking about door dash. All right, we're coming

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Speaker 1: up to it about seven seconds. All right. Another thing,

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Speaker 1: woo Be Goldberg problematic fave. Show why she's problematic today?

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Speaker 1: Problematic fave? Do you know what that means?

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Speaker 3: That mean? I love would be?

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Speaker 1: She say wild shit from time to time. She justifies

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Speaker 1: You know, she said some anti Semitic stuff got taken

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Speaker 1: of people like black women that I love in my

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Speaker 1: at the receiving backlash for suggesting they have poor work ethic.

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Speaker 1: When we were kids, there was a standard women had

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Speaker 1: They're very pissed to me right now. The young people.

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Speaker 1: Young people need to know it's hard. It's always been hard,

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Speaker 1: it will always be hard. That's the nature moving forward.

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Speaker 1: Longer than that. If you're not aware. During Wednesday's episode

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Speaker 1: Every generation comes and wants to do better than their

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Speaker 1: but I'm sorry. We busted out behind We had to

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Speaker 1: Now Karen's about to go into the commentary from yesterday,

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Speaker 1: but I'm pausing it right here just to say that

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Speaker 1: was the setup of what she said. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: what she said again real quick. She's saying millennials work

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Speaker 1: four hours a day. She's saying they have no work ethic.

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Speaker 1: She's calling them lazy, she's a infern they're entitled. She's

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Speaker 1: not okay? It's okay for her to slander that whole

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Speaker 3: We didn't say, hey call universal health. Came back to

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Speaker 1: managing the mental health of people in their employee. We

436
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Speaker 1: don't even have the right training for that shit at

437
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Speaker 1: a job. There are meta feels where you have to

438
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: learn for years to be able to get the right

439
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: thing for each type of person, because it's not a

440
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 1: one answer fits all. Somebody else is are you okays?

441
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: Another person's you violate my boundary, I'm not at work,

442
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 1: Leave me alone. So my point being, I do understand pragmatism.

443
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 1: I do understand somebody like whoopy being like it was

444
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 1: hard for us too. Oh well, I do understand that,

445
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 1: but that doesn't give us license the same way that

446
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: should be empathy for Whoopee and the plight of her

447
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 1: generation and that should be empathy for gen X, and

448
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 1: that should be empathy for gen Z. I'm not gonna

449
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 1: sit up here and watch one person, one one person

450
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Speaker 1: throwing generation under the bus and be like, well, I

451
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 1: guess it's okay, she's older.

452
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Speaker 3: Oh well, nothing I can say.

453
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Speaker 1: I don't play like that. Okay, back to the clib

454
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Speaker 1: you go back and look statistically almost I forget the

455
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Speaker 1: exact numbers, but most people at some point experience poverty. Yes,

456
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Speaker 1: some of us have it when we're children. Now, think

457
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: about your parents may shield you from that, but think

458
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Speaker 1: about what that means. If you experienced poverty when you

459
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 1: were a child, that means when your parents chose to

460
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 1: have you, it put them in the bracket of poverty. Right,

461
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: meaning having children is one of the biggest risk factors

462
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Speaker 1: for poverty. Now kids no more, younger people no more, adults,

463
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Speaker 1: our age no more. A lot of that is from

464
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Speaker 1: the social media and the Internet and all the stuff.

465
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: A lot of that is from you know, you know

466
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Speaker 1: the fact that we can educate ourselves more and stuff.

467
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 1: But part of knowing more is that it affects your decisions.

468
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: A lot of people have kids because they just didn't

469
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Speaker 1: know how bad it could be, or that it would

470
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Speaker 1: be too bad, and they're like, it'll work out somehow,

471
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Speaker 1: hopefully the government's safety neess to do something. But when

472
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Speaker 1: you have a society that is let consus nevatives win

473
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: and cut the underpendings of the social safety net via

474
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: you know, conservative politics, you make people not want to

475
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Speaker 1: have kids, and what do they do to offset that?

476
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: They don't go, well, how can we help people with

477
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: plan apparently, how can we help people with government subsidies

478
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: that feed families. No, they go cut all that shit

479
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Speaker 1: off and don't let them have abortions. That's their answer

480
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Speaker 1: to making America have more kids. It's not let's make

481
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Speaker 1: it a place where having a child doesn't send you

482
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Speaker 1: on a spiral to poverty. Right, it's let's do you

483
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Speaker 1: know whatever and the other parts of the clip real quick.

484
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Speaker 1: That's the So when whoopees used millennials aren't having children

485
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Speaker 1: to then demagogue a whole generation of people as lazy,

486
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Speaker 1: that's offensive. That's something that people will be mad at

487
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Speaker 1: and should be mad at. People have children when they

488
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Speaker 1: feel safe. Right now, nobody feels safe in this country,

489
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: and you can go into the reasons why they don't

490
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Speaker 1: feel safe I'm not throwing that all at the feet

491
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Speaker 1: of gen X and gen just people and boomers and stuff.

492
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Speaker 3: I'm not.

493
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Speaker 1: But it's not our fault. Right, there's times when we

494
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: fucked it off, you know, when it was time to vote,

495
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Speaker 1: when we went, ah, not for them, right, can't be bothered,

496
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: It'll be all right. You know a lot of that

497
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: is us, you know, And it doesn't help when we

498
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: lie on them and call them lazy and shit. It

499
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Speaker 1: doesn't help. And we don't participate in that with our

500
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Speaker 1: show back to the clip. Part of it is part,

501
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: like I said, I can understand, and because we talked

502
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: about this last week with or a couple of weeks

503
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: ago with the woman who was like, why didn't my

504
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: job like come check on me and all this stuff,

505
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: I do understand part of Whoopy's thing, which is like

506
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: life is fucked up and they're not coming to help you.

507
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: So y'all gonna have to make a way once again.

508
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,239
Speaker 1: I'm we unfair to Whoopee. Here's me from yesterday. I'm

509
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: politivelip just now. This is me from yesterday being like

510
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: I understand again, Hey, I can see what she coming from. Again,

511
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: Why did you write up here in a lot of us.

512
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: Why did you do that? Did you think you would

513
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: fool us like we wouldn't remember what the fuck we

514
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: said yesterday? Like, well, you probably didn't think I'd be

515
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: petty enough to replay it. That's fair, that's fair. It's

516
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: probably not too many podcasts on the earth. That's like,

517
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: run it back then. But I'm I'm nab motherfucker, I'm

518
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: nab bitch. I will do that. Okay, I'm petty as fuck. Okay,

519
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm not calling you any names. But you're never gonna

520
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: be able to gas like me because I have the recording.

521
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: It's called a podcast. It's all right there, right up here.

522
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: Next time, you gotta have some clips or something. You

523
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: gotta have some quotes. You gotta prove to me these lies,

524
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: cause I'm never gonna let you lie to me out

525
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 1: of some way, because if you've been waiting for like

526
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 1: America to give a fuck, they never will agree. And

527
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: I hate to rewind again, but let me rewind for

528
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: a second, because you hear where Karen agrees. So even

529
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: Karen's like, yeah, staying part of Whoopy's thing, which is

530
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: like life is fucked up and they're not coming to

531
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: help you. So y'all gonna have to make a way

532
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: out of some way because if you've been waiting for like,

533
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: that's better stated meaning hey, I understand, O. Can you

534
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: can say it for yourself. I'm assuming you were saying yesterday.

535
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: I understand Whoope's point if you frame it in this way,

536
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: but not in the way what she just calls these

537
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: motherfuckers lazy? Is that correct?

538
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 3: Or no? Yeah?

539
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 2: And my thing is if she would have made that statement,

540
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 2: she wouldn't have got the outrage, like like like the

541
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 2: and I turned funny.

542
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 3: She said on the product too, she's on the view.

543
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 2: They set a product, and part of their product now

544
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 2: with most shows is going viral and getting clicks. I'm

545
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 2: not trying me for like like like that like that's

546
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 2: a part of it, saying the most outlandish, saying the

547
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 2: most thing to get the clicks and to go viral

548
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 2: and to get more viewers, no matter if they're gonna

549
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: be temporarily there or not. You get more viewers, you

550
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 2: get more sponsors, everybody makes more money.

551
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: All right, let's go back.

552
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: America to give a fuck. They never will agree. And

553
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 1: you're America too, so you either gotta like vote from

554
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: people in and shit. If you feel like waiting on

555
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 1: all that, you gotta like go through that process. But

556
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: like you're not gonna be able to complain your way

557
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: into them doing the right thing, because they just don't right.

558
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: But she didn't say that. She turned in to a

559
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: work etic thing. And then the last thing I'll say,

560
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: for you know, trying to move on or whatever. Everybody

561
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: does this, and I mean everybody. I saw this thing

562
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: yesterday and I was thinking about it. It was this

563
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: person that said she tweeted something about how like her

564
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: father paid for like his mom's mortgage. Now I'm about

565
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: to go into this point from yesterday, of course, but

566
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: I'm pausing the clip. You notice I said everybody does this.

567
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: I don't mean to act like I'm the smartest motherfucker

568
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: in the world, but I feel like everyone listening should understand.

569
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: I just humanized whoopy goldbird. I didn't ostracize her. I

570
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: didn't point her out for her age and go, look

571
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: at you, not not on a booboo, you're old and

572
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: you're different than me. No, I didn't. I said the opposite.

573
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: I said everybody does this in their own way.

574
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, in various different nanths.

575
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: But depending on the day, and the topic. We will

576
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: pathologize things we disagree with or we don't like, or

577
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: to demogogue some generation or some other group. We will

578
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: pathologize it. It happens all the time. No one's immune

579
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: from it, not me, not Karen, not you, Julie, and

580
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: definitely not Whoopy. We all have these moment. It's what

581
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: we be like, why the fuck is this group of

582
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: people like that? Is it true that they're all like that? Maybe?

583
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: But then we turn things into a willpower situation. Why

584
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: don't they want to do better? Why don't they want

585
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: to do differently? We don't fucking know for real, And

586
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: if we went to investigate it statistically, we may find

587
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: out a bunch of stuff. Our premise is fucked up

588
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: and flawed. We're missing some information, we're assuming the stereotype

589
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: of certain things that we don't know. I know what

590
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: Whoopy said, and we kept this conversation to whoopee. At

591
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: no point did we be like, you know what, and

592
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: it's all people over sixty five, They all feel this way.

593
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: His wife and family's mortgage and half for her rent,

594
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: and that's you know, that's what men do. Da da

595
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: da da Right, And then of course everybody in the

596
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: replies are like, yeah, these men ain't shit. These men

597
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: don't do that no more. Da da da da, And

598
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: I'll said this is interesting. Same argument is like woop

599
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: be Golbert. It's the same argument. These men just don't care.

600
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: They obviously have enough money to do this. Fuck inflation,

601
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: fuck employment, fuck any of that, Fuck the student loan stuff.

602
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: When it comes to like men versus women or dating

603
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: people turn into some capitalistic assholes real fast. Every poverty

604
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: myth they believe it. It's just you don't want it

605
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: bad enough. That's why you ain't got the money. You

606
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: just don't want to have the money for a two

607
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: hundred dollars a day. It can't be that you don't

608
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: have it or that you know that's not reasonable or whatever.

609
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 3: It's just a you, not a And if you don't

610
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 3: have the.

611
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: Money, it reflects poorly on your class and sophistication and

612
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: your education and your and all this stuff. So we

613
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: all have these moments of the of like choosing to

614
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: believe the anecdotal thing rather than look at the macro

615
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: of like look at all these trends, look at everything

616
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: we've lost as a country, social safety nets. Uh, you know,

617
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: the fucking subprime lending grift that destroyed so much wealth

618
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: in this country, which happened around two thousand and eight, Julie,

619
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: which is in your email you wrote about how you

620
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: lost everything in two thousand and eight.

621
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Speaker 3: Here I am bringing that up.

622
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: If I was so fucking insensitive, two folks, I would,

623
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have brought that up. I'm trying to point

624
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: out the similarity through every generation.

625
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's fucked up, particularly with two thousand and eight.

626
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: A lot of people lost their home, Like a lot

627
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: of people lost their homes, So many people upside down

628
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: in their homes for decades and never got the true

629
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: restitution that they deserved.

630
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 1: The government got money and fins, but the people didn't.

631
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 3: Right, they were not made whole.

632
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: Brewing your credit and everything, and you would not be

633
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: made whole on that.

634
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: And we were doing we were doing the podcast during

635
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: some of the you know some of that not I don't.

636
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: We didn't start in two thousand and eight, but when

637
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: it blew and all that stuff, we talked about some

638
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: of that on the show. And I remember specifically being like,

639
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: I don't like these podcasts and radio shows that keep

640
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: making the point.

641
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: Of well you should you should.

642
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: You knew that was too much house, You knew you

643
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't have got that house, you knew they would shouldn't

644
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: have gave.

645
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: You no loan.

646
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: And it was like, actually, people don't know, and it

647
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: was predatory lending, and it's not anecdotal, it's fucking macro.

648
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: It happened to a lot of people, many of them

649
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: black and brown people. You had lending companies that targeted

650
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: these people to get them into these loans with these

651
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: balloon payments, so they could then fuck these people out

652
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: of the money that they had, the little bit of

653
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: money they had put them in that resell the fucking house.

654
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: And when that imploded, they got bailed out. They didn't

655
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: go to jail for that shit. And so my point

656
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: being that's something that our generation that older had to

657
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: deal with. Well, they're fallout and repercussion for that. But

658
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't with the bullshit when people were like, it's

659
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: your fault, dummy, why you ain't read the contract.

660
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 2: I never nobody reads that paper unless you're a goddamn layd.

661
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: You When people sign them contracts, them things like pick

662
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 2: eleven hundred pages, you sign eleven thousand spaces.

663
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 3: You don't read it, that's not it.

664
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: That's not the point. But yes, the point even if

665
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: you did read it, the point being like that wasn't

666
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: as it wasn't as simple as that they were grifting

667
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: a generation of people, right, And so what happened is

668
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: older generations and people that just didn't understand mock the

669
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: people that were the victims. And that's what I feel

670
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: Whoopie Goldberg is doing when she's mocking people for like,

671
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: you must not want to work hard, if you don't

672
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: have children at forty or whatever, you must just not

673
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: want it bad enough. Millennials, I'm like, you're looking at

674
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: the victim and mocking the victim and letting the grift

675
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: that is America slide off. Scott Free. Me and Karen

676
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 1: don't have kids. We made that decision a long time ago.

677
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: But we made that decision partially because it was like,

678
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: I don't think we financially, we shouldn't be having no

679
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: kids now.

680
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: Out of that, we didn't buy a house because of

681
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 3: that too.

682
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: We don't have a house.

683
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I remember y'all, particularly right before we did

684
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: the podcast and before the big balloon, I would be

685
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 2: listening to the radio.

686
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: It will literally be everywhere.

687
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 2: You know, this is kind of for podcast, and shit

688
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: blew up, and the shit just didn't sound right. I'd

689
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: be riding the car and every time you would hear

690
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 2: radio commercial, it'd be like, you can get a house,

691
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: now come here, now hear the keys.

692
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 3: We got the house, And I thought to.

693
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: Myself, I don't know shit about a house, but that

694
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 2: shit don't sound right. It's nobody a long process it

695
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: normally you can't.

696
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

697
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: But honestly though, it's not like I don't even want

698
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: to put it on somebody. We were just smart. We

699
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: heard the ads and we didn't fall for it. It

700
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: didn't sound right to us, but everybody else they got

701
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: y'all just didn't understand because that's what is That's what

702
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: that is sounding like.

703
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 2: No, And the reason why I said is because I

704
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 2: listened to it and because that one period of time,

705
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 2: I was like, well, maybe we should do it. So

706
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 2: I'm not quote unquote above it. We just didn't quote

707
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: unquote pull that lever. But it does not mean we

708
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: were above it.

709
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: I never felt safe enough to do it. And honestly,

710
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: that's what a lot of these people are.

711
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 3: Doing through now.

712
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: The millennial generation is going through it to it. They're like,

713
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: I don't feel safe enough. This is not a trend

714
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: on one generation. By the way, look back, you'll see

715
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: Americans are having less and less kids for years now,

716
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: decades now, So it ain't just a millennials. Are the

717
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: ones that are just they they too soft? No, this

718
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: is like I said, let's keep it facts. I don't

719
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: care about the feelings. Let's keep it facts. You want

720
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: to write up here with some facts, some numbers that

721
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: prove that these this generation is working four hours a day.

722
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: You want to prove that to me, Sure, right up

723
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: here and prove it to me. But if not, we

724
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: woop be just talking and she'd be just talking sometimes,

725
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 1: you know, I know, I'll be Yeah, she's just talking.

726
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: It's fine, but she's wrong. All right. Back to the clip.

727
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: You know, the banks literally cheating on these loans and

728
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: shit and getting penalties of paying the government money. But

729
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: it didn't make these people right, It didn't make it

730
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 1: didn't fix the credit of the communities they destroyed. So

731
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: it's that kind of stuff that doesn't get talked about

732
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: when we don't feel like talking about it. But it

733
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: counts for everything. It can't only count when you wanted

734
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: to count, and so I find you know, you know me,

735
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 1: I'm always thinking a little tangential, a little outside the box.

736
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: I connected those two things in my mind when I

737
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: saw them. I said, oh, you sound like Whoopie ye

738
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: had that. The men just don't want it anymore. No,

739
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: the men don't have what they had the same way

740
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: you don't have what you would have had thirty years ago.

741
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 2: And you're also talking about a generation now that's averaging

742
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: less than their parents, like you know, and people aren't

743
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: talking about that part either. You know, you're talking about

744
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: a generation now where like I said, they were promised

745
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 2: if they go to school and do the right thing

746
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: and get in this debt, they were getting a job.

747
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 2: But you do the right thing and get a job

748
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 2: and get out in their jobs, it's like, no, bitch,

749
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 2: you started at the bottom like everybody else, making you know,

750
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: less than twenty dollars an hour, but you got I

751
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: got a degree, and they go, fuck you in your degree,

752
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 2: this is what we're paying you. And then you wonder

753
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 2: why they're mad, and then they're upset. One in four

754
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: US medical students consider quitting.

755
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: So we got to that's the next beginning of the

756
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: next story, which was related, but I'm not gonna play

757
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: all that.

758
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 3: I wanted to play the.

759
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: Specific part that Julie wrote in about now maybe just

760
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: feels a little too petty. But I'm gonna read it

761
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: again because we just went through it all again. So

762
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: let's go back through what she said. I really love

763
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: your podcasts and generally agree with most of what you

764
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: That's the title I do have to say, enjoy your

765
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: perspect However, I often bristle at how easily it seems

766
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: to be to attack people who are older who make

767
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: commentary on millennials or whomever they are, and make commentary

768
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: on millennials, is really you being so generous in a way.

769
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: You were not generous to us when you wrote up

770
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: here because you said we attack people who are older,

771
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: which we just played that whole clip. Ain't an attacking there.

772
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: But Woopee did attack millennials when she said they were

773
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: just lazy, when she said they only worked four hours

774
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: a day. Now, why is that not an attack? Why

775
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: is she making commentary but me and Karen are attacking.

776
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 1: I am working a full sixty hour a week job

777
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: at the age of sixty five because I have to,

778
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: because in two thousand and eight. Everything I worked for

779
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: was destroyed. And I'm still trying to quote Bill back better.

780
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: How about everybody have a little empathy and realize that

781
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: shit is hard for everybody out here. I thought that's

782
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: what we were doing. I think we were showing empathy,

783
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: even for whoopee who we disagree with. Empathy does not

784
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: give you a steamroller. That doesn't mean you get to

785
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: take my empathy and be and say wrong things and

786
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: be mean to people. And I have to go, well,

787
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: I have empathy for you, so it's okay. Empathy doesn't

788
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: mean you get to write up to our show and

789
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: lie and alleged things we did not fucking say. Ain't

790
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: that much empathy in the world, baby, Nope. Were dealing

791
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: in facts and that's it. If it's not factual, keep

792
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: it at the door you want to write in with

793
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: some quotes. We just played everything we said. I stand

794
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: by everything we said yesterday. Wasn't a single thing in now.

795
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, we went a little too far with that. Yeah,

796
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: I know boomers are assholes, an entitle etcetera, etcetera. I

797
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: guess millennials are not things we never said. Things we

798
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: never said, and that's you notice how I'm sorry, Can

799
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: you notice how whoop be called they're the millennials and

800
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: all that shit. We never once in that entire thing

801
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: went and you know what, actually it's the boomers that

802
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: are the assholes. We didn't do that because we don't

803
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: do that, because to me, it's not that just that

804
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 1: people can't feel that way. We make a better show

805
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: than the vast majority of people that do shows. They

806
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: would have said that because they're not as good as

807
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: doing shows as we are. They would have had so

808
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: little nuanced and just been like whenever boomer hand, shut

809
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: up boomer. They would have done that, and then they

810
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: they would have got their little jokes off about people

811
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: being old and all this shit.

812
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 3: We didn't do that because we're above that.

813
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: We make a better brand of product than these motherfuckers

814
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: that say shit like that, Which is another reason this

815
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: shit is offensive, because the show you're describing is a

816
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: show I wouldn't even want to be on, let alone

817
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: do myself. My shit tighter than that, our shit funnier

818
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: than that, our shit more poignant than that.

819
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 3: Don't ever write up here with this bullshit.

820
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: Come on, Julie, Come on, Julie, Oh sorry, can what

821
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: are you saying?

822
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, because just listening to this, it

823
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 2: sounds like things were said and you heard it in

824
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 2: the way that we didn't say it. And now you're

825
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: projecting internally things that are happening and you inside of

826
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 2: you and writing our show. You know, people kind of

827
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: stop doing this. But one thing about it, particularly and

828
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: not that you do this, Julie, but particularly people that

829
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 2: spend a lot of time online, they have a tendency

830
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 2: to write up here and like act like we are

831
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 2: the trolls and the robots and and and and the

832
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: hotels that they argue with online back like we say

833
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: that shit, and we didn't, and you know, because they

834
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: know that they quote unquote can't.

835
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 3: Control those people. Those people aren't listening to this show,

836
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 3: and we are not them. We didn't pretend to be them.

837
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: Now, if I said it and I fucked up and

838
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 2: I did that, I would apologize.

839
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: I am not above apologizing thing. We know you didn't

840
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: say it because we just played it. So no, not

841
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: even no hypotheticals. No, we dealing in facts only.

842
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 3: We just played what we said yesterday.

843
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: We didn't say none of this. Boomers are assholes and

844
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: entitled shit, not a single time.

845
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: And I have compassion for you having to work like that.

846
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 3: Don't nobody want to work like that?

847
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: Honey, Sorry that I had to do this, but it

848
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: just really infuriates me. The lack of empathy towards people

849
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: who are over the age of fifty five is simply

850
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: staggering to me. So I don't understand the lack of

851
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: empathy towards the millennials. Find me and Karen shitdn't even

852
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: have brought it up. If anything, we should have said, whoopy,

853
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: Goldbert was right again, right, we should that was fine.

854
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: You ain't writ in the view you writing us, But

855
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: us saying hey, hey, hey, whoopy, that's unfair is a

856
00:43:58,560 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: lack of empathy that.

857
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: Do not gas like me. We did not say that shit.

858
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 3: We did not say.

859
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: Come on, man, I try to be nice. I try

860
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: to be nice. I'm one of the nicest people you

861
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: gonna ever meet. But I do not play with my

862
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: fucking reality. Dog. Don't call up here, right up here,

863
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: saying we said some shit we did not say. Just

864
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: because I'm not moved to anger often and try not

865
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: to let it move me don't mean I can't be

866
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: mad as some shit. So don't try to make us

867
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: mad with this bullshit. It appears that you want us

868
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: all to just shut up or die or possibly both.

869
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: What the fuck are you talking about now?

870
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: That was never said, That was never said at all?

871
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: How dare you?

872
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 3: How dare you?

873
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: We have never said no shit like that?

874
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 3: What's wrong with you?

875
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,479
Speaker 1: And I know the way you're personalizing all this shit.

876
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna take what I'm saying there's a reasonable response

877
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 1: to what you said, and you're gonna act like your

878
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: feelings matter more than mine, and you're hurt, and you're

879
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: probably gonna stop supporting the show or claim not to listen,

880
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: cause that's just what people do when this happens. But

881
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: this really ain't a show for you. This is a

882
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: show for every other motherfucker. This is a show for

883
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: other podcasters that go through this. This is a show

884
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: that people got to deal with parasocial relationships. This is

885
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: a show for the other fans that think about writing

886
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: in so they go, oh, yeah, I probably shouldn't just

887
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: make shit up.

888
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 3: The vast majority of our fans are a plus.

889
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: We do feedback show for fucking hours and nobody in

890
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: there having hot mad nothing. Oh someone else wrote in great,

891
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: another voicemail, No problem. But this bullshit, this low quality shit,

892
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: we will not deal with. If you want to go

893
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: right into a show that would say something like this,

894
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: the vast majority of these other podcasts will talk just

895
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: like this. Oh whooping your old bitch, Shut the fuck

896
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: up your old ass, and you can write this letter.

897
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: You can copy and paste this shit. Just switch out

898
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: our names and you'll be fine. But we're still here though,

899
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: we're still working, we're still doing the things we need

900
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: to do, and we are still trying to survive. Many

901
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: of us at sixty five are taking care of our parents,

902
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: were wearing their nineties a lot of fun. Trust me,

903
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 1: love the show I've been supporting monthly for ten years. Well,

904
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: thank you, Julie for your support. And I hate that

905
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,479
Speaker 1: this is the first time you ever wrote in to us,

906
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 1: because this is patently ridiculous, and it would be nice

907
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: to have at least known you in some other capacity

908
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: before you wrote in and lied, Cause now this is

909
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: all I might ever remember about you. Every time I

910
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: see your name and be like, oh, the woman that

911
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: just lied on us, When I, like I couldn't remember

912
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: what the fuck was said yesterday, Like I couldn't just

913
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: hit play again and just go, oh, that's not what

914
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: was said. Come on, man, don't waste our time. We

915
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 1: won't waste show time. And now all these other people,

916
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: they didn't get a podcast with new news and banners.

917
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: They just got an old podcast remix of us being like,

918
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: we didn't say that shit, remember.

919
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 3: That yesterday y'all about to say, I mean, we can

920
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 3: bandam if you want a bantham.

921
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: No, And I replied to her email, Julie, thank you

922
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: for listening. But at no point did anyone on our

923
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,479
Speaker 1: show tell anyone to shut up and die. We didn't say.

924
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: We didn't say a thing mean about older people. We

925
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: said we thought whoop was wrong to paint with a

926
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: broad brush about millennials. If you like to provide the

927
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: direct quotes that offended you, please do that. Don't characterize

928
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: us as having said something we did not say. And

929
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: that's been the show today. All right, Thanks for listening, everybody.

930
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: You know what it is contact. All that stuff is

931
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: right there in the show notes. So if you want

932
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: to leave us a voicemail an email, I do ask

933
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: that you keep it factual to something that we actually

934
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: said in the show, because that's just the way we

935
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 1: operate over here.

936
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 3: I know, we.

937
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: Crazy like that over here at the Black Hottails. We

938
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: like the only new feedback for the things that we

939
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: actually fucking said. Okay, And honestly, at the end of

940
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: the day, I still do wish you the best, Julie,

941
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: because that's an unfortunate situation, and I think your generation

942
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: is dealing with that and in silence because you feel

943
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: like you need to tough it out, and you feel

944
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: like no one's gonna have empathy for you and that

945
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: you should, and that you're gonna get attacked because that's

946
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: how the older generation has been attacking the younger generation.

947
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: But I think you'll find something interesting with this younger crowd,

948
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: right because when we talk about generations raising other generations

949
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: and having to deal with, you know, the thing the

950
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: people they raise and the value systems that they imparted

951
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: upon them, we normally talk about the negatives.

952
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 3: Right.

953
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: All these kids think their feelings are so important. They

954
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: think they feelings matter over everybody else's feelings. Fuck these

955
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 1: kids who raise these kids us. They think they should

956
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: get a participation trophy for everything who watched? Why would

957
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: they get a participation trophy? Everyone played the game. You're

958
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 1: not specials. We gave them to them, right, we did.

959
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: But here's the thing that we don't talk about. Let's

960
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: talk about some positives. Generationally, these kids are willing to

961
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: hear your feelings and your plight way more than your

962
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: peers were, way more than my generation was. These kids

963
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: now understand. They if you say, man, it's hard, I'm

964
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: taking care of my mom. She's ninety five, I'm sixty five,

965
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: I'm working sixty hours a week.

966
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 3: They're a soft place to land. Yes, they are.

967
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: This the generation of fucking raising go fund means for

968
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: other people, marching in the street for countries they don't

969
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: even live in and don't even really necessarily understand the

970
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: full context of the history in but they see some

971
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: people are dying and they need to raise the word

972
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: about and they out in the streets marching for Palestine

973
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 1: just because they feel like it's the right thing to do.

974
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: They don't want to see that. Like our generation was

975
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: the generation for jenn At, I don't know, I can't

976
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: say boomers, but for Gen X, we were definitely a

977
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: generation that was told your feelings don't matter. Yep, what

978
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: you do can matter, but you don't really matter, And

979
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: I don't think any parent like sits you down and

980
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: says that, But just the general tenor of our culture

981
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 1: was you're a kid, it don't matter. Just come home

982
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: from work, let yourself in defrosted chicken.

983
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 3: Mam will be home soon because.

984
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: Our parents had to work, you know, both of them.

985
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 1: And so I understand that, like we have inner voices

986
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: that are telling us some harsh things, but you'll find

987
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: that those are mostly inner voices, and what these millennials

988
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: and stuff are reacting to are things like what Woopy said.

989
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: That's why they got the okay boomer because you know what,

990
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: think about what the phrase okay boomer means.

991
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 3: It's a response. It is a response.

992
00:50:55,440 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: Okay boomer implies you have said something to me that

993
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: is fucked up and out of touch. And my response

994
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: to you is okay, older person, meaning I didn't start

995
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: shit with you. If you would have left me alone

996
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: or said something nice, it would have been fine. But

997
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: here you are critiquing me in ways that are unfair

998
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: and not valid. So this is my response to dismiss you.

999
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: But you will find that that doesn't have to be

1000
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: that way if you write this same email without lying

1001
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: and just say hey, I'm sixty five and I'm going

1002
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: through this and it's tough for me too, and not

1003
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: all the boomers feel like she does, or not all

1004
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: the you know, sometimes boomers do blame.

1005
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 3: Millennials for shit that they ain't got nothing.

1006
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: To do with. We would have been like, yeah, I

1007
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: feel you, Julia. I have a lot of empathy for that. Yes,

1008
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: I had empathy for Whoopy And she said, shit, I

1009
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,919
Speaker 1: do the whole fucking episode yesterday. Well, she's my problematic faith. Hey,

1010
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: she said that, and I can't see what she's coming from.

1011
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: But you know, I wouldn't necessarily agree, don't don't do

1012
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: this again.

1013
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 3: Let's not.

1014
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: And that goes for everybody, all right, until next time.

1015
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: I love you.

1016
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 3: I love you too.

1017
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: No