1 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Police and the FBI prepared to step up their rewards 2 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: to answer the burning question, where is Lindsay. Maybe you 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: don't realize something that you saw or heard. This is 4 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Nolan to date has risen 5 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: to the level that we would label them as suspect, 6 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: and I am just begging for somebody that may know 7 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: something or strongly suspects something. Hello, everybody, thank you for 8 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: being with us. I'm Nancy Grace and you are listening 9 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: to Crime Stories with Nancy Grace and Crime Online dot Com. 10 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: Today we are taking a look with the hopes of 11 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: re igniting the search for a beautiful young girl. Her 12 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: name many of you will know Lindsay Bomb, and joining 13 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: me right now is a special guest. Her mother is 14 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: joining us, Melissa Bomb. Melissa, thank you for being with us. 15 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me, Nancy. I appreciate your interests. 16 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: You know, Melissa, it's never easy to talk about losing 17 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: someone you love. I mean, today I was working with 18 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: my father's will and I cried the whole time. And 19 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 1: I know Lindsay disappeared a while back, but that people 20 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: don't understand that does not change your feelings about Lindsay 21 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: you will love her forever and always look for answers. 22 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: Doesn't get easier, It doesn't. Why is that. I think 23 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people expect, Oh, well, well I've and 24 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: this was a very close family member. Um. We had 25 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: this conversation a few months ago and she's like, well, 26 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's been seven years. You just need 27 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: to suck it up and move on. Like we actually 28 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: said the word suck it up and move on. Yes, 29 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: that's exactly what she said. My thought is mine doesn't 30 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: end like when my mom died. Part of me has 31 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: never gotten over that my mom has been gone. It 32 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: will be twenty years Mother's day. I've never gotten over that. 33 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: I still missed my mother every day. My mother was 34 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: the greatest woman in the world. She was my mentor 35 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: and and I loved her. But it's a different it's 36 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: a different, different kind of it's a different kind of love. Yeah. 37 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: And I hate to use the word closure, but you know, 38 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: I know that my mother passed away, my mother, you know, 39 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: she with lindsay, it's different because I don't know where 40 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: my daughter is. I don't know what's happening to her. 41 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to her. I don't know 42 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: who took her. I want to go back to that night. 43 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: It was June two thousand and nine, nine fifteen pm. 44 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: Now tell me if I've got this right. Because things 45 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: are reported sometimes a little differently than they really happened. 46 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: There's a certain nuance it's missing. It's my understanding. Lindsay 47 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: went to a pool party or to a neighbor's to 48 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: go to their pool, and she was coming home, decided 49 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: to come back and not spend the night. At nine 50 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: fIF pm she left the friend's house and they were 51 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: just a few blocks away from you, right, Yes? How 52 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: how far away was the home? And we're not talking 53 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: New York City blocks, We're talking I lived on the 54 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: It was the same street, two different names, but it 55 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: was the exact same street. I was at. The first 56 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: avenue Momson was where I lived. And I'm talking the 57 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: town only had people in it, so this is a 58 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: tiny town. But and and her friend lived on in 59 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: between six and seven. Now, so you're telling me Maple 60 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: turned into Momson. Yes, on the main street that comes 61 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: down the hill where it was divided at the shell station. 62 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: Moms turned right, you'd be on Momson if you wait 63 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: a minute, whoa whoa, whoa, whoa. You just tell me 64 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: something I did. No, did you say a shell station 65 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: like a gas station? She walked past a gas station. Well, 66 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: we don't even know that she made it to the 67 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: gas station. The gas station was only like close to 68 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: my house. Um, I lived kind of kitty corner behind it. 69 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: But they never um were able to see her on 70 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: the video because the videos only covered the doors and that, 71 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: so we don't even know if we don't think she 72 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: made it to the show. Let me understand something with me. 73 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: Is Lindsay Bomb's mother. Lindsay goes missing June two thousand nine, 74 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: just ten years old. That's the age of my children, 75 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: just ten years old, she goes missing. I want to 76 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: thank someone for being with us today. It is simply safe, 77 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: simply safe home protection and alarm system. You know, thousands 78 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: of people across America every day want a security system, 79 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: but they think they cannot afford it. I have a 80 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: security system, got a security system for my mom. This 81 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: is called simply safe and I love it. As a 82 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: matter of fact, a lady in our neighborhood, Ms Shirley, 83 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: her husband passed away recently. He was a World War 84 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: Two that like my father. She's all alone, and she's 85 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: been very concerned because somebody will come and ring her 86 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: doorbell at like three o'clock in the morning. Well, she 87 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: got a simply Safe. It's fourteen nine a month, and 88 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: this is one of my mom's best friends. I feel 89 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: so much better knowing she hasn't. The thing about it 90 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: is you can afford it doesn't have any contracts. It's 91 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: seven three sixty five protection. There are security professionals watching, 92 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: and they react instantly and send the police. And you 93 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: can get temper sent off by going to simply safe 94 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: dot com slash Nancy, simply safe dot com slash Nancy. 95 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: Now you're telling me if she had walked normally from 96 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: the neighbor's home to your home, she would have passed 97 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: a shell station. You know that. That gives me a 98 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: whole line of questioning. Now the shell station hadn't have 99 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: been there, I could have seen straight all the way 100 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: down to Kara's house. But the way the cell station 101 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: said it blocked my view. Otherwise I could have seen 102 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: all the way down the road because it was literally 103 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: straight down. How many blocks was it? Okay? So I 104 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: know she left the friend's home because the family says 105 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: she left, and even more importantly, an objective observer drives 106 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: by and sees her about halfway from the friend's house 107 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: to your house, so we know she made it that 108 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: far on a ten minute walk. She's literally five minutes 109 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: from home. What happened less than five minutes. The whole 110 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: walk wouldn't take her more than five minutes. Well, she's 111 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: supposed to spend the night at that party. No, her 112 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: friend they had gone to her. They weren't at the 113 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: same house where the pool party was. The pool party 114 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: was actually even closer. The pool party was right across 115 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: the street from the shell station. She went to her 116 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: other friends that was with her that was gonna spend 117 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: the night. So they had gone to her friends to 118 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: get close or clothes or whatever, and you know, to 119 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: make sure that she could spend the night. Well, it 120 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: ended up she wasn't able to spend the night. Her 121 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: parents something had come up that they had to do 122 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: the next day, and she's like, no, not tonight. So 123 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: Lindsay left to come home. When she left my house 124 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: because she had come home from the pool party and 125 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: showered and changed, and then that her and her friend michaela, 126 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: my son Josh and Michaela's brother Kyler. There was like 127 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: a group of six or seven kids that left my 128 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: yard heading to Michaela's house, but they all split off 129 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: and it ended up just being Josh and Lindsay and 130 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: Michaela and her brother Kyler continued on towards their house. 131 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: My son ended up turning around and coming home about 132 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: two houses before they got Michaela's house, and he came 133 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: home before, so he was at home by the time 134 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: she got to Michaela's. When Lindsay left, she didn't she 135 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: didn't call. She didn't have her phone, which she never 136 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: left the house without her cell phone. She'd only had 137 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: it a few months and she never left a room 138 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: without her cell phone. But before she left it was dead, 139 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: so I guess she plugged it into charge planning on 140 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: being right back and didn't take it and for whatever reason, 141 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: didn't ask to use their phone to call me and say, hey, Mom, 142 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: Michaela can't spend the night. I'm by myself. She knew 143 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: not to be by herself, even for five I don't 144 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. It's like everything's fell into 145 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: place for the perfect storm. She didn't take the dog 146 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: with her. We had a hundred and ten pound German 147 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: shepherd that went everywhere with Lindsay, But for what she 148 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: didn't take cadence that. Let me ask you another question 149 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: about that pool party. Were there were all the attendees 150 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: her age? Were there any adults there? Were there any 151 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: teen cousins or brothers there? No, it was just a 152 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: group of kids from the school. They were all there. 153 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: There might have been a year or two his difference 154 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: in between them, but it was right in the middle 155 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: of town, so it wasn't like anybody could see them. 156 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: Are you sure no other adults were there? And they were. 157 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: What I'm asking is, were there any other adult males there? 158 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: No other than the little girl's father, And I'm not 159 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: even positive he was there at the time that all 160 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: the kids were there. One of the persons of interest 161 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: that they had interviewed lived right behind them, and somebody 162 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: had reported somehow one of the things that they had 163 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: interviewed him about was that he had been watching the 164 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: kids in the pool party because he lived behind them, 165 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: so he could see them playing. Are you talking about Hartman? No, 166 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: but he also lived right behind there. No, Tim Hartman 167 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: could have also seen them in the pool um, But 168 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: this guy's name was trying to think of his name. 169 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: I can see his face. I had never even heard 170 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: of him or met him. Um, but he was living 171 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: with some relatives. Um, just a couple of houses down 172 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: and behind where the pool party was. Why was he 173 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: living with relatives, Melissa? Why was he living with relatives? 174 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: I don't know that I ever knew. Why did he 175 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: become a person of interest? Yes, they did interview him, 176 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: they searched the property. I believe he moved out of 177 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: town after that, but they I bet he did move 178 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: out of town. Now see that as a whole new wrinkle. Now, 179 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: just because there was nothing found in the search, why 180 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: did they remove him from suspicion? Well, I don't think 181 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: they ever. They haven't officially removed him from suspicion, just 182 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: like they haven't officially removed apartment and and the other. 183 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: The first person of interest, which was one who followed 184 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: me for about forty five minutes, just a week or 185 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: two after Lindsay disappeared. He was following me around town. 186 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: As I was on the phone with saying, there's somebody 187 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: following me. He's following me, He's writing my tail, He's 188 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: following me everywhere. Um, it took forty five minutes for 189 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: a cop from another town to respond, And meanwhile, I'm 190 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: just going in circles. He was following me. I had 191 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: no idea who he was. Why was he following you? 192 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: To this day, I don't know. I didn't even know 193 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: that's who it was until the day they were searching 194 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: the property. UM, And they brought his car into the 195 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: police station and we recognized his car. I didn't know 196 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: who he was. I didn't know where he lived. I 197 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: didn't know anything about them. The only reason I knew 198 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: that that was because I saw his car and I 199 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: knew they were out searching property out off mok Chayla's, 200 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: but I didn't know who it was. But then when 201 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: I saw the car and like my my friend Michaela's 202 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: mom Kara and I who was with me that night, 203 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: we looked at each other and like, oh my god, 204 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: that's the guy that was following us. So I don't 205 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what they did search. They took a 206 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: lot of stuff out other than him following you that day? 207 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: Is there any others and he was named a person 208 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: of interest? There were and again I don't know all 209 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: of the details. UM. At one like I said, you can, 210 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: kind of you can. It's in the search warrant. They're available, 211 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: and I know it was posted on a lot of 212 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: sites back then there, but there was it was the 213 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: comments that were made. His g friend Um had reported 214 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: him after they broke up, which he ended up getting 215 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: back together with and they now have a child together, 216 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: but she had reported that he had told her that 217 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: he Um had had taken Lindsay and dismembered her and 218 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: put her in his grandmother's old well. Again, they didn't 219 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: share all the details of everything with me, but there 220 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: were his location, He wasn't where he said he was. 221 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: His phone was off that night. There was a lot 222 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: of reasons they looked at him, and with me it 223 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: was always, well why else would he be following me? 224 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: You know? He tried to tell the police he didn't 225 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: know who I was. Well, I had a Lindsay fire 226 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: hanging in my window and I know Dan Gooden, well 227 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: he knew who why I was. I want to go 228 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: back to Melissa the night that she went missing, from 229 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: the beginning, when she came home to change after the 230 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: pool party. What happened. She came in, took a shower. Um, 231 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: I was in there in the living room doing something 232 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: on the computer. I don't remember. Josh was there and 233 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: her friend Michaela and all the other kids waited outside 234 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: while Lindsay ran in and took a quick shower and changed. 235 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: And when she came out, I was laughing and I'm like, Lindsay, 236 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: it's ninety degrees out. Why are you wearing jeans and 237 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: a and a and a longsleeve shirt. And she's like, 238 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: because this is my passion, you know. She wouldn't wear shorts. 239 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: She wore jeans with the holes cut out of the knees. 240 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, whatever. It was evening time anyway, 241 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: so it wasn't that big of a deal. And she 242 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: went outside and then she came back in and she's like, Mom, 243 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: there's a man outside his dogs missing. And I said, Lindsay, 244 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: you know, never to go near anybody. You know that 245 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: that tells you that she was dumb. Mom. I'm not, 246 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not stupid. And she said it his 247 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: dog is missing, which the law enforcement did verify because 248 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: the guy had hung flyers all over town and he'd 249 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: been asking all of her town. But it's just weird, 250 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: you know, a few days before that she had thought 251 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: that somebody was following her, but we were never able 252 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: to get a description enough of them to know. You know, well, 253 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: that night, after she comes home and takes a shower 254 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: from after the pool party, she comes out in her 255 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: jeans and then what happens. Um We talked for a 256 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: little bit, and then she said she wanted to go 257 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: with Michaela to see if she could spend the night 258 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: again because she had spent the previous night with us. 259 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: And I said, well, it's going to be dark soon, 260 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: so if you guys are gonna do that, you go 261 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: straight there and come straight back. I want you home, 262 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: and she's like okay. And then before she left, I said, Lindsay, 263 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: I mean it. If you see that man again, don't 264 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: go near his car as if you don't, and she's like, mom, duh, 265 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: I told you I'm not stupid, and she walked out 266 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: the door. About half an hour went by and she 267 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: still wasn't back, so I called Kara, and by the 268 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: time I reached her, she's like, no, Lindsay was here 269 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: for like just a couple of minutes, and then she 270 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: left like she she's gone, and that was it. She 271 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: she didn't make it home. She didn't, of course, before 272 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: I called law enforcement, because you know, Lindsay, she was 273 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: almost eleven. It was eleven days before her eleventh birthday. 274 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: She had been really trying to establish independence and prove 275 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: that she was mature. So I thought, okay, well, maybe 276 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: maybe she went to Christina's on her way home to 277 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: see if Christina could spend the night. I wasn't sure 278 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: at that point because that's just not something, especially in 279 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: a town like McCleary. Your first thought is not, oh 280 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: my god, somebody took my child. So I get on 281 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: the phone and I, you know, I call Christina's house 282 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm, you know, calling around and know they 283 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: hadn't seen her. And I keep calling her phone, and 284 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: at some point, I don't know if it just where 285 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: I was in the house. I finally I heard her 286 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: phone ringing in the bedroom. So I went into her 287 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: bedroom and see her phone plugged in. So I take 288 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: her phone and I go through it and I call 289 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: all of her friends, asking have you seen Lindsay. Have 290 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: you seen Lindsay. Well, meanwhile, I'm walking around looking and 291 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: Michaelis parents got in their car and started driving around 292 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: town looking for this went on a good. It wasn't 293 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: until dark, when it actually got dark, that I finally 294 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: I called nine one one and and I didn't even 295 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: call nine one one, I called the police dispatch number 296 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: because at that point I I couldn't help but think, 297 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, she's she went some you know, she she 298 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: stopped somewhere. She's gonna show up. I don't want to 299 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: cause this big ruckis and then her show up. But 300 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: by the time it got dark and she wasn't home, 301 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: I knew there was a problem because she wouldn't be 302 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: out after dark. It wasn't even just that it was 303 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: my rule that she had to be in or in 304 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: the in the house before dark. She didn't like to 305 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: be outside in the dark. So that's when I knew 306 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: something wasn't right. And it took about half an hour 307 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: for the police officer to get there to my house. 308 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: And you know, he knew my kids, and he agreed. 309 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: He's like, well, Josh and Lindsay sting, were you and 310 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: Lindsay fighting? You think she's just hiding out at somewhere 311 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: trying to Punishue. I'm like, no, we weren't. She Everything 312 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: was fine. I mean, her and Josh got into an 313 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: argument over his bike, But I mean, what else is new? 314 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: You know? They always argue and he's like, well, you 315 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: don't think she ran away? And no, she didn't run away. 316 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: And where would she go? There was no bus. The 317 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: buses had already stopped running. It was a small town, 318 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: so the bus only came through a few times a day. 319 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: She didn't have any money with her, she didn't even 320 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: have her phone with her. I mean, it was just 321 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: he didn't take Caden's. Everything fell. It was like the 322 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: perfect storm, like everything just came together to go wrong 323 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: that night. And what haunts me is things that Lindsay 324 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: had said previous the night before when MICHAELA was spending 325 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: the night that had been the day that Michael Jackson died, 326 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: and Lindsay Michaeler, you know, they were kind of upset. 327 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: That was pretty much the first famous person they knew 328 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: of that you know, had died. And we were talking 329 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: about Michael Jackson and and Lindsay looks at me and 330 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: she goes, mom, I just have this bad feelings something. 331 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: I just have this feeling something bad's gonna happen. And 332 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: I said something bad when you like like what she goes, 333 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, I just have this feeling something really 334 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: bad's gonna happen. And that was the end of the conversation. 335 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: And the next day she was going I have reviewed 336 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: the video from that Shell Mart gas station in McCleary. 337 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: It was recorded the shell Mark we were talking about earlier. 338 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: It was recorded around nine thirty Jean, right about the 339 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: time Lindsay goes missing. And the footage shows an adult 340 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: white male dressed in a brown shirt and he's got 341 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: on black shorts with the Mariners cap and he's got 342 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: a young boy with him walking around inside the convenience 343 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: store part and if you keep looking, you can see 344 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: he's riding It looks to be brand new, uh white 345 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: Honda ridgeback truck, a ridgeline truck, and in it it 346 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: looks like there is a one of those sturdy boxes 347 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: that people sometimes carry. What have police told you about that, 348 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: if anything, Well, they were never able to because of 349 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: the way the cameras were. They were never able to 350 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: definitely confirmed that it was that man and boy driving 351 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: the Honda ridge Line. But he is the only person 352 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: that they've never actually made contact with, and that white 353 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: Honda ridge Line is the only vehicle that they have 354 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: never located. He did have a boy with him, and 355 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: it looked like a young boy, maybe nine or ten. Yeah, 356 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: and I was really interested in a town that's small. 357 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: Why no one knew who that was? Well, because a 358 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: couple of reasons. For one, it's summer and McClary is 359 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: a little town on the way to the beaches. So 360 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: if you want to go to Ocean Shores or Pacific 361 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: Beach or Westport or any of those, that's pretty much 362 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: the only way you have to go. Buy McClary. There's 363 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: also quite a few camp ounds in that area, and 364 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: there's a big off road vehicle park where they at 365 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: the time they had debraces. Well they still do. Let 366 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: me ask you if those areas. Do you know if 367 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: those areas were searched, those campground areas, Yes, they were. 368 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: What do you know of the search, Melissa? What kind 369 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: of search took place? Oh? They it was tremendous. I 370 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: mean they did a massive search um and then you know, 371 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: volunteers continued to search. We had a search center there 372 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: in town for eight months where we had searches every weekend. 373 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: That we're just volunteer civilian searches, but law enforcement have 374 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: searched countless times. They brought in the prison crew from 375 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: I want to cause Stafford Creek, but it's not Stafford Creek. 376 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: It's one of the other local prisons. They brought in 377 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: what they considered low risk prisoners UH to do ground 378 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: clearing and stuff like that. On multiple occasion whenever they 379 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: had big searches, they'd bring them in as well as 380 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: law enforcement. Um. They had use of some high tech 381 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: equipment from the FBI as well as obviously Seattle p D. 382 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: And it was a huge, massive search. Melissa, have you 383 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: felt in the time since Lindsey disappeared, have you ever 384 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: felt that she has tried to contact you? Um? I 385 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like if she could, she would, 386 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: but I don't really feel that she there. There's been 387 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: like on some of the YouTube videos there there was, um, 388 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, different comments that made me wonder, oh, could 389 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: that be Lindsay, you know, trying to hint to something 390 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: or but again there's nothing. Do you believe that Lindsay 391 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: is still alive? Yes? I do. And I know that 392 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: that people may think that I'm naive or wishful thinking, 393 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: and and that very well maybe true. I know the statistics, 394 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: believe me, I know the statistics. But I also am 395 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: her mother, and I just believe in my soul that 396 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: she's still alive. Um, I always have. I've never I've 397 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: never felt otherwise. I just I don't know. I think honestly, 398 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: it could be anything, but I I can't help but 399 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: think of it as something like a J. C. Dugard 400 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: or Elizabeth Smart scenario. I don't know. I I don't 401 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 1: wish were where the other human trafficking? What your working 402 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: theory right now as to what happened to Lindsay? My 403 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: own personal one, well, I believe it was either somebody 404 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: she knew or believed she could trust, because she would 405 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: not have gotten And Lindsay was very intelligent ten year old, 406 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: like above average intelligence, and anybody that knew her will 407 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: tell you that she was very sharp, very quick witted, 408 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: very smart. Um, she would not have gotten into a 409 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: vehicle with somebody she didn't know. The only way she 410 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: would have gotten into a vehicle is if it was 411 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: somebody she knew or thought she could trust, like you know, 412 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: say the local policeman was saying, hey, Lindsay's gonna be ark, 413 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: let me give you a ride home, or one of 414 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: her friends father's you know, but they've all been looked at. Um, 415 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I'm just clueless because I just 416 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: I have no idea. You know, they've never found any 417 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: hint of her. There's been a a rumor circulating for 418 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: the last few years, and and now they it's just 419 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: the Westport myth. And it's always the same story. It 420 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: changes only in people in vehicles. That a group of 421 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: people were driving through town and they were high or 422 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: they were drunk, and they hit her and then they 423 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: cut her up and put her in a crab pot 424 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: out at Westport off one of the fishing boats. That 425 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: story has come around multiple times, like more times than 426 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: I could count. Every time it was a different group 427 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: of men. Uh, different kind of vehicle, different this, different that. UM. 428 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 1: The FBI assured me that they had traced that story 429 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: back to a drug dealer who had been arrested and 430 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: who had made those claims trying to get his competition 431 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: in trouble. UM. I was assured by the FBI that 432 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: they sat down face to face he admitted to them 433 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: making up the story. UM, and the they you know, 434 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: informed him of you know, did you not think of 435 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: what it would do to her family? Hearing this? And UM, 436 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: but again the story keeps coming up. There's always some 437 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: different version of the story. Why when that skull was 438 00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: down last year, that was a dream about Lindsay. Not 439 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: so much anymore. Um, I don't really dream much anymore. 440 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: If I do, I don't remember them. I rarely ever 441 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,719 Speaker 1: remember dreaming at all. I used to dream about her 442 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: all the time, I will. I had nightmares for two 443 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: or three years at least. I don't even They'd just 444 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: be there. Was never the same one, just be random nightmares, um, 445 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: just of her missing, you know, just different scenarios. But 446 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: every dream I ever had of her, that that was 447 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: the majority of my dreams, was of her coming home. 448 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: Never in my dreams was she found, not alive. Every 449 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: dream I've ever had of her was us being reunited, 450 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: her being found. The night she disappeared, I was standing 451 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: in my driveway. Law enforcement was out, and at that 452 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: point they were having me stay close, and I had 453 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: my cell phone, and I had Lindsay's cellphone and my 454 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: house phone, and I'm standing at the end of my 455 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: driveway looking down the street, thinking, oh my god, somebody 456 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: really took my child. And I just heard this voice 457 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: somewhere inside me say, Elizabeth Smart came home, Lindsay will too. 458 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: And uh, I can't explain it. I can't explain. I'm 459 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: not saying that was God speak to me. I don't 460 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: know who it was. It was just I heard this, 461 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: whether it be in my mind or wherever I heard 462 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: this voice saying, Elizabeth Smart came home, Lindsay will too. 463 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: And from that moment, I've I've never believed that she 464 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't come home. Do you remember the feeling. I mean, 465 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: I would I believe that I would feel as if 466 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: it weren't real, that it really couldn't possibly be true, 467 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: that my child was really missing. M hmm. What were 468 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: you thinking when all of this was happening. Honestly, that night, 469 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: I kept thinking that she was just going to show 470 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: back up, and that I was gonna get mad, Like 471 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna be so mad at her. I'm like, 472 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: what am I gonna do? Am I gonna ground her? 473 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: Am I gonna whip her? Like I'm I was at first, um, 474 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,239 Speaker 1: But then when it really hit me standing there at 475 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: the end of my driveway that somebody took her, I 476 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't I can't describe how I felt. 477 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: I felt like I couldn't breathe. It felt like all 478 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: of the air was being sucked out of my lungs 479 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: and I still feel that. Okay, if you've ever lost 480 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: your child or lost sight of your child in a 481 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: grocery store or a shopping mall, that panic feeling you get. 482 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:28,239 Speaker 1: I that's like a norm that's become a normal occurrence. Um, 483 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: you forget how to breathe. And that sounds funny, but 484 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: literally you just like I will find myself, especially thinking 485 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: about Lindsay, like I realized I've been holding. Do you 486 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: ever wake up or did you ever wake up in 487 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: the mornings and you you think it didn't really it 488 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: didn't happen, and then you realize it did happen. It's real. Yeah, Yeah, 489 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: I realized it when I walk out my bedroom door 490 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: and see the police tape overheard. I used to do that. 491 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: I would wake up in the morning and think, if 492 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: you think everything was fine, then it would hit me 493 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: everything that had happened, that the crime really did happen. 494 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,719 Speaker 1: And then it's like you relive it over and over 495 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: and over again. Every morning when you wake up, it's 496 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: like it happens again. Yeah, and that continues. That really 497 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: doesn't go away. It may not be every single morning, 498 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: but there I never lay down at night without wondering 499 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: or thinking I all day long, Lindsay probably comes into 500 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: my mind a thousand times a day. What triggers it? 501 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: Anything can trigger it? Anything. It can be something as 502 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: simple as um, a little girl wearing her hair the 503 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: way Lindsay wore hers, or just being in the store. 504 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: I can hear a kid calling mom that might sound 505 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: like Lindsay. Or I can see kids walking down the 506 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: street and think, I wonder what Lindsay looks like now, 507 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: or I mean, anything can trigger it. That that's the 508 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: That's the thing, like I never know. I keep thinking, Okay, 509 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: I know my triggers now, I can watch for them. 510 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: But the next thing I know is something pops up. Um. 511 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: If you're familiar with Walmart's UH code adam, I'm sure 512 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: you are. They have a lost lost childcat Adam. There's 513 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: been two or three code atoms in my Walmart that 514 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: I've been there for, and they just one time in particular, 515 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: I actually had to leave the store. I just kind 516 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: of had a meltdown because I was standing there when 517 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: the woman came to report that her child was missing, 518 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: and she was so like panicked and hysterical, and of 519 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: course we found him. He was a little it was 520 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: a little like a he was four. Um, he was found. 521 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: But it was that sheer panic on her face. It 522 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: just I felt it for her, and it was like 523 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: reliving it all over again. And I'm thinking, God, I 524 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: know how she feels. I just my heart, you know, 525 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: bled for her for that moment. If you could speak 526 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: to Lindsay now, if she could hear your voice, what 527 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: would you tell her that I love her and I 528 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: want her home. I will never give up on her. 529 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: I will always be waiting for her. Um. There's nothing 530 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: that that should ever make her fear coming home, or 531 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: nothing that she should be afraid of. UM if whoever 532 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: has her is telling her they will hurt her or 533 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: her family. She just needs to get home, She needs 534 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: to get away and um, come home. We were We 535 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,479 Speaker 1: love her and we're waiting for her, and just hang on, 536 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: just hang on. Amanda Barry makes me think of Lindsay 537 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: a lot. When I heard her nine one one call, 538 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: I just remember saying to my friend, that's Lindsay. Lindsey 539 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 1: would do that with us today. Our sponts were simply safe. 540 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: We've gotten this for a lady in our neighborhood, Miss 541 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: Shirley Hey, who has been our lifelong friend, is the 542 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: age of my mom. As a recent widow, she did 543 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: not have an alarm system, and she's had some scary 544 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: incidents just recently, and there have been some break ins 545 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: in our neighborhood, and I think about her being there 546 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: alone without an alarm. My mom has an alarm. We 547 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: have an alarm. But we got simply safe from Miss Shirley. 548 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: And even I'm sleeping better. Much less you know her, 549 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: you get tempers in off everybody simply safe dot com 550 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: slash Nancy. You just can't be safe enough, That's what 551 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: I think. Guys joining me. Melissa Bomb Lindsay's mother. Lindsay 552 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: went missing at just ten years of age. She was 553 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: about to turn eleven. It was a summer evening, it 554 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: was still light outside, it had not even turned dark, 555 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: and a town of less than fifteen hundred people early 556 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: summer two thousand nine, five minutes from home. She never 557 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: made it. If you know anything about the disappearance of 558 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: Lindsay Bamb or you think you may know something, please 559 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: contact authorities at three six zero two four nine three 560 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: seven one one. Thank you, friend,