WEBVTT - #440 Packers Unscripted: Three straight

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Mike Spofford sitting alongside my partner in crime,

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<v Speaker 1>Wes hodkuwits were coming to you here from our studios

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<v Speaker 1>at lambeau Field and West. The Green Bay Packers are

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<v Speaker 1>three and oh it's a pretty impressive start, it is,

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<v Speaker 1>uh And you know, I was sitting around with some

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<v Speaker 1>of our interns after the game last night, on a

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<v Speaker 1>Hoosier among them, and talking with some people and on

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<v Speaker 1>a Whosier who's actually a Buckeye because she went to

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<v Speaker 1>a house state. Just to clarify, but we won't get

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<v Speaker 1>into all that college affiliation, but there was we're all

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<v Speaker 1>kind of congregated around that area, and the question was

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of came up, like, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>only a few of these teams that are left on

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<v Speaker 1>defeated at this point. And you can also throw out

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<v Speaker 1>the stats. I know you brought it up about a

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<v Speaker 1>week or two ago. Matt Lafleur three and O as

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<v Speaker 1>a head coach the rest of the first year. The

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<v Speaker 1>first time head coaches in the league right now something

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<v Speaker 1>like to eighteen and one, there's only two, only two

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<v Speaker 1>other victories from first time head coaches so far through

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<v Speaker 1>the first three weeks of the season. So what does

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<v Speaker 1>that tell you? It tells you it's difficult to win

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<v Speaker 1>in this league. So regardless of the ups and the downs,

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<v Speaker 1>the highs and the lows, consistency and setbacks, the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing that ultimately matters in the grand scheme of things

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<v Speaker 1>is whether or not you won the game. The Packers

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<v Speaker 1>have had some learning moments, they've had some dominant moments,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're three and o to show for it. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>then to sixteen victory over the Denver Broncos Sunday at

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<v Speaker 1>lambeau Field is what got the Packers to three and oh.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you look at this game West, it is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely the classic, a number one grade, a example of

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<v Speaker 1>what timely impact plays on defense due because defensively, the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers gave up some long drives, some clock consuming drives.

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<v Speaker 1>They couldn't get off the field on third down in

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<v Speaker 1>some instances. But at the end of the day, the

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<v Speaker 1>three turnovers, two of which led to touchdowns for the offense,

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<v Speaker 1>the six sacks a few of those that stopped drives

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<v Speaker 1>in their tracks. Timely impact plays on defense is the

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<v Speaker 1>name of the game, and that's exactly what this Packers

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<v Speaker 1>defense did to the Broncos. So you're right, they did

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<v Speaker 1>give up too many yards. The running game through Denver

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<v Speaker 1>was very impactful throughout the day. I mean, they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have that big break, but they were able to move

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<v Speaker 1>the ball and they won short yard situations. But two

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<v Speaker 1>things stood out to me with this one. They gave

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<v Speaker 1>up green Bay did They gave up two explosive plays

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<v Speaker 1>in this game. So what does that mean. It means

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<v Speaker 1>that in the other cases, you mostly were making Denver

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<v Speaker 1>work for their yards. So what happens when they work

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<v Speaker 1>for the yards, it's more plays, which creates more opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>for a takeaway. And when the defense got those opportunities,

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<v Speaker 1>as have through the first two weeks of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>they capitalized on them. That was the biggest telltale sign

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<v Speaker 1>of this victory is they won three to nothing in

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<v Speaker 1>the turnover battle. Offensively, they were able to again shut

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<v Speaker 1>out Vaughan Miller Bradley Chubb in that pass rush. Third

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<v Speaker 1>straight game without a sack, not an easy thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a turnover Broncos defense either for the third straight game.

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<v Speaker 1>So defensively, it allowed Green Bay to control the tempo

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<v Speaker 1>from that, and so many guys stepped up. Preston Smith

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<v Speaker 1>his second three sack game of his career, um tying

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<v Speaker 1>a career highs and Darius Smith had two sacks, including

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<v Speaker 1>the final one of the game, which is Smith was

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<v Speaker 1>saying the locker room, I mean that could have basically

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<v Speaker 1>been anybody, Kyler, Fakral, Kenny Clark. There are so many

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<v Speaker 1>different guys that were involved in that play. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the exciting thing about this defense is there's just so

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<v Speaker 1>many guys around the ball that are trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>after this thing. Takeaways Galore Jr. Alexander strips the ball

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<v Speaker 1>away from Noah Fan to tight end. Uh. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>never tell Jaire alex Inder that he's undersized. He'll prove

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<v Speaker 1>you wrong every time. Darniell Savage gets his first career

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<v Speaker 1>pick upon review, Rashawn Gary gets his first career sack.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think when you're talking about total defensive performances,

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<v Speaker 1>and in Preston Smith discussed this in the locker room,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not talking about, okay, that the secondary stepped up,

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<v Speaker 1>but the defensive line didn't play that well, or the

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<v Speaker 1>linebackers were good, but the secondary wasn't where they need

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<v Speaker 1>to be. They're playing complete eleven man football and it's

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<v Speaker 1>along to win games like this. Yeah, for me, the

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<v Speaker 1>timing of some of these plays was absolutely perfect for

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<v Speaker 1>Packers in the game situation. And what was happening You

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned Alexander's great strip um almost simultaneous strip and recovery

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<v Speaker 1>of the ball from Noah Fan That's a completion to

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<v Speaker 1>the rookie tight end from Iowa on a third down

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<v Speaker 1>that is for a first down. He's across the marker,

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<v Speaker 1>he has it. Alexander rips the ball away from him.

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<v Speaker 1>You rewind the clock a little bit, the score is

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<v Speaker 1>ten to ten. You're late in the second quarter. The

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<v Speaker 1>Broncos have the ball. They've put together a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>long clock consuming drives in the first half already, and

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay just had a three and out offensively right,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Broncos at the end of the first half

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<v Speaker 1>are looking to potentially take the lead, and they're getting

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<v Speaker 1>the ball coming out of halftime. So it's a crucial

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<v Speaker 1>point in the game. And what happens, strip sack of

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Flacco in the pocket. Rashaan Gary falls on the ball. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>a Broncos offensive lineman had a great chance to recover

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<v Speaker 1>that and save that for Denver, he wasn't able to.

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<v Speaker 1>Preston Smith not only knocked the ball out of Flacco's hands,

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<v Speaker 1>but kind of prevented that lineman from covering, and the

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<v Speaker 1>ball still squirted out. Rashan Gary falls on on the

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<v Speaker 1>five yard line. The Packers get a touchdown there before half,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that possession coming out after halftime is when

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander gets the strip and recovery the turnover there and

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers end up getting another touchdown. So from that

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<v Speaker 1>ten to ten point when you're looking at the Broncos

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<v Speaker 1>maybe having the back to back possessions to establish something

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<v Speaker 1>in and take the lead in the game, those possessions

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<v Speaker 1>turned into a to ten lead for the Packers because

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<v Speaker 1>of the two turnovers in the offense capitalizing. The timing

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<v Speaker 1>of it, to me was astounded. Yeah, and just you

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<v Speaker 1>know Green Bay gets that takeaway. The offense starts at

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<v Speaker 1>the Denver five yard line. I mean, just an incredible

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<v Speaker 1>situation to be asked. The Gyro Alexander play he runs,

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<v Speaker 1>he ends up being brought called down. But then the

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<v Speaker 1>next play right after that, Danny vidally twenty seven yards

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<v Speaker 1>of the one yard line. Two plays later, Aaron Jones

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<v Speaker 1>goes in for the touchdown fourteen points off turnovers in

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<v Speaker 1>a eleven point victory. I mean that shows you how

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<v Speaker 1>important those key moments are. And just to touch on

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<v Speaker 1>really quickly with Preston Smith, because we lump him and

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<v Speaker 1>Zadarius Smith together, and rightfully so. Their lockers are close together,

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<v Speaker 1>they play the same position, they signed the same offseason,

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<v Speaker 1>they have a history together, and certainly they're very friendly.

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<v Speaker 1>Buddy buddy, But Preston Smith, I've been saying this, you

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<v Speaker 1>can I'm not trying to pat myself on the back,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've been saying this since the summer that so

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<v Speaker 1>many eyeballs were on Zadarius Smith after the season he

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<v Speaker 1>had in Baltimore and where the defense that he was

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<v Speaker 1>coming from. Preston Smith was kind of the somewhat understated

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<v Speaker 1>player that the Packers had signed. But I felt from

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning this guy fit exactly what Mike Petton wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do defensively, and he talked a little bit about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I also appreciate that it was very refreshing to hear

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<v Speaker 1>him say when he's asked why he came to Green Bay,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the best offer on the table. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>starting point, right. It's like that for anybody in any

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<v Speaker 1>walk of life. I don't care for a professional writers

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<v Speaker 1>something else here. Yeah, but then he said, you know

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<v Speaker 1>the way I was going to be used the conversations

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<v Speaker 1>we had here, and he just feels like this defense

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<v Speaker 1>is bringing out the best in his capabilities. Mike, he

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<v Speaker 1>has four and a half sacks and three games. He

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<v Speaker 1>had four sacks last year his career high as eight.

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<v Speaker 1>And it isn't just the sacks. It's the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he has an interception. It's the fact that he has

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<v Speaker 1>forced that fumble. He is finding ways to get after

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback and make plays whenever he's around the football.

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<v Speaker 1>And for the Green Bay Ackers outside linebackers here to

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<v Speaker 1>have seven and a half sacks from those two guys

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<v Speaker 1>specifically at this point, yeah, oh my gosh, what a

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<v Speaker 1>way to pace a defense. Yeah, no question about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll go back even to the timeliness factor. Even

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<v Speaker 1>earlier in the game, the Packers start out with a

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown on a free play. Marquis Valde scantling sprints down

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<v Speaker 1>the field. Um von Miller, I believe it was jumped

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<v Speaker 1>off sides for the Broncos forty yard touchdown, Packers around

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<v Speaker 1>the board seven nothing. Broncos immediately sixty yard kickoff returned

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<v Speaker 1>the other way. They are across midfield there in position

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<v Speaker 1>to answer right away. Defense not only gets a three

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<v Speaker 1>and out, but on the third down, Preston Smith gets

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<v Speaker 1>the sack to thwart that drive and suddenly that sixty

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<v Speaker 1>yard kickoff return is rendered null and void immediately by

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<v Speaker 1>the defense never started at the green bay forty three

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<v Speaker 1>on that series. I mean, they need ten yards to

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<v Speaker 1>get in range for Brandon mcmennis for a field for

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<v Speaker 1>a field goal, and they're there on the board. And

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<v Speaker 1>then later in the first half, the Broncos put together

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<v Speaker 1>a drive. The Packers maybe catch a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a break when a holding penalty downfield on Emmanuel Sanders

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<v Speaker 1>wipes out a touchdown run. Now Jr. Alexander was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>animated on the field. That's something had happened there that

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<v Speaker 1>he had gotten grabbed. So whether Alexander really was held

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<v Speaker 1>that badly or just sold it to the officials, the

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<v Speaker 1>Broncos had to work a little extra hard to get

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<v Speaker 1>into the end zone. And then what happens on a

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<v Speaker 1>third and short in the red zones and Darius Smith

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<v Speaker 1>gets the sack and forces the field goal. So the timing,

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<v Speaker 1>the timing of these plays, I mean, you know how

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<v Speaker 1>it is West you get a sack on third down,

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<v Speaker 1>it ends a series. You get a sack on first down,

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<v Speaker 1>the defense still or the offense still has a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to convert there. I mean, the timing of these plays

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<v Speaker 1>is is um is really what's making the difference because

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<v Speaker 1>there were some lapses on defense um in this game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, maybe even more lapses than we then we

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<v Speaker 1>had seen, just in terms of the Broncos being able

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<v Speaker 1>to basically convert about down. They were. They were efficient

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<v Speaker 1>on third down, they had a ton of third and

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<v Speaker 1>short because they're running game was working so well. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you can make plays on defense at the right time, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>it it not only makes a difference in the game,

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<v Speaker 1>but it just it energizes the team. It fires up

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<v Speaker 1>the sideline, it fires up everybody else. And uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>that that was the difference in this ball game. Yea.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to just touch on as you were

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<v Speaker 1>illustrating with Jaire Alexander a little bit. I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like being hyperbolic. I don't know how many times

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<v Speaker 1>I've said that in this show, but I really truly don't.

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<v Speaker 1>But to me, I think that this is one of

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<v Speaker 1>his best games, if not his best game in the uniform.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason I say that is one, obviously, Emmanuel Sanders

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<v Speaker 1>had two catches for ten yards. That's you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>null and void point you start with with them across

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<v Speaker 1>the field. But too, Packers had some problems tackling at

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<v Speaker 1>various intervals in this game, and it bit them. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there was some a lot of the big plays that

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<v Speaker 1>came off of miss tackles. J Alexander had seven tackles.

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<v Speaker 1>I think six of them were solo for a little guy,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry I shouldn't say little, but for a defensive

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<v Speaker 1>back he does back for a guy that is not

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<v Speaker 1>Sadarius Smith. For him to be able to make the

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<v Speaker 1>open field tackles he did was impressive. His two p

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<v Speaker 1>bus were impressive. And he's just a menace man that

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<v Speaker 1>That's just he is a menace out there. So even

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<v Speaker 1>when Fant gets that catch, he comes back and he

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<v Speaker 1>rips the ball away from this is a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>probably has what eighty pounds fifty you know, seventy pounds

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<v Speaker 1>on jire Alexander, he should care and I just think

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<v Speaker 1>that mindset so regardless if you're Kenny Clark, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>Darius Smith or Preston Smith having that type of mindset.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why two years old, we keep saying, jaire, Alexander

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be a player in this league because he

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't even scratched the surface yet of what his true

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<v Speaker 1>ability is. Yeah, Well, before we shift gears to talk

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<v Speaker 1>believe in better. Okay, offensively, I mentioned another fast start.

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<v Speaker 1>You get a touchdown on the opening drive. Aaron Rodgers,

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<v Speaker 1>as he is known to do, takes advantage of the

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<v Speaker 1>free play, throws the ball deep and Valdes Scantling comes

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<v Speaker 1>down with it for a forty yard touchdown. There were

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<v Speaker 1>again some lulls offensively in this game, but then, much

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<v Speaker 1>like the Minnesota game the previous week, in the fourth quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers needed to put together a drive. In the

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota game. It was just to kill clock in this game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a one score game that I believe the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>took over with thirteen and a half minutes on the

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<v Speaker 1>correct in the fourth quarter, and they drained more than

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<v Speaker 1>half the quarter. Seven minutes, forty one seconds come off

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<v Speaker 1>the clock. Very methodical drive, eleven plays fifty one yards

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<v Speaker 1>overcame a delay of game penalty along the way, and

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<v Speaker 1>got into a pretty reasonable range for Mason Crosby to

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<v Speaker 1>kick a forty one yard field goal and make this

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<v Speaker 1>a two score game. When the offense had to do

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<v Speaker 1>something when they when the unit had to produce, it produced,

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<v Speaker 1>and Aaron Rodgers is I don't want to stay frustrated

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<v Speaker 1>because he's not. He's looking for more out there. Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Lafleur is looking for more. Everybody knows this offense is

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<v Speaker 1>capable of more. But when you can put together drives

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter when you absolutely have to have them,

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<v Speaker 1>that's at least as you're trying to work out some

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<v Speaker 1>of this other stuff, that's at least something you can

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<v Speaker 1>hang your hat on unequivocally, because I don't did you

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<v Speaker 1>ever see that thirty on winning time, Reggie Miller, That's

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<v Speaker 1>what these moments are about it's winning time. It's time

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<v Speaker 1>for you to kind of get yourself together, even if

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<v Speaker 1>you might have a couple of punts in a row,

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<v Speaker 1>and find something to build upon. And the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>I loved about that drive was how many times have

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<v Speaker 1>you and I seen an inbox or heard from fans like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't they just give Aaron Jones the balls thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five times a game and just keep running him. Jamal

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<v Speaker 1>Williams is a top of the end running back in

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<v Speaker 1>this league. And what I mean by at especially as

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he's a well rounded football player. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's a reason why you hear matt Le talked about

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to balance off the reps because while Williams

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<v Speaker 1>and Jones have different strengths, you saw in this game

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<v Speaker 1>why Jamal Williams is going to play in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time. In addition to the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he's sort of that Reggie almost Reggie the Edgar Bennett mutter,

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<v Speaker 1>just seems like whenever the conditions kind of get Junkie out,

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<v Speaker 1>he he always seems to step up in that situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he had nine touches for fifty six yards

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<v Speaker 1>in the second half, But it was that ten yard

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<v Speaker 1>catch he had on third and five when that was

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<v Speaker 1>a gotta have at moment for this offense to convert

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<v Speaker 1>there when they had been having some problems in that

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<v Speaker 1>capacity that you see it. He's just he's a he's

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<v Speaker 1>a sure, confident pass catcher, he's a good pass protector.

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<v Speaker 1>He just gives you every dimension that you want out

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<v Speaker 1>of a running back that you can play on any down.

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<v Speaker 1>And in this game, when it maybe it wasn't coming

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<v Speaker 1>together for Aaron Jones like it did last week, the

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<v Speaker 1>offense turned to Jamal Williams and he stepped up. They

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<v Speaker 1>turned Danny Vitally and he stepped up. You need to

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<v Speaker 1>have options to have a sustainable offense throughout the season.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the one positive I've gleaned from these

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<v Speaker 1>first three weeks overarching with the offense is that when

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<v Speaker 1>somebody needs to rise to the occasion, somebody usually does. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you alluded to it earlier. Not only did the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers shut out Von Miller and Bradley Chubb that match

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<v Speaker 1>up on the edges that we were talking about all week,

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<v Speaker 1>but Aaron Rodgers made a big point to mention in

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<v Speaker 1>his postgame press conference that he basically wasn't touched all day,

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<v Speaker 1>said he only got hit once and it was on

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<v Speaker 1>the wheel route to Danny Vitality that got the offense

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<v Speaker 1>down to the one yard line after the Alexander turnover.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise Rogers was not touched. And I'll be honest, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we will talk about this a little bit more going

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<v Speaker 1>forward with the Packers on a short week here in Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 1>coming in for your thirty five year old quarterback to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the podium after a game like that against

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty decent Denver Broncos defense and to physically feel

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good because his offensive line did such an exemplary

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<v Speaker 1>job of keeping him, keeping him clean on a rainy day,

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<v Speaker 1>and not not just the no sacks, but but the

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<v Speaker 1>limited contact that he had. I think that could really

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<v Speaker 1>be a big factor here on a short week heading

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<v Speaker 1>into this, uh, this Philadelphia game on Thursday night. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a huge factor because we're gonna talk about the Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>enough here in the next couple of days, but that

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<v Speaker 1>is a banged up unit right now, and they lost

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<v Speaker 1>some more guys in that game against the line to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with. For the Packers not to have at least

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<v Speaker 1>to this point in time in which we're shooting this.

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<v Speaker 1>Any big injuries going into this game now against the

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles is going to be huge. But for Rogers, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what can you say about the offensive line and the

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<v Speaker 1>protection unit. He drops back thirty times, He's only hit once,

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<v Speaker 1>and that one hit was on a completion, a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven yard completion. I've always found that interesting with cute

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback hits. Yes he was technically hit, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>an explosive place, So I'd never quite understand why they

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<v Speaker 1>credited as such. If it's like, okay, you pressure him

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<v Speaker 1>into an incompletion. I get that, but that's another story

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<v Speaker 1>for another day. But David Box, tr Brian Bulaga, Elton

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<v Speaker 1>Jenkins coming in, he had a false start early but

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<v Speaker 1>being able to settle in there at left guard with

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<v Speaker 1>Lane Taylor, and now on I R. They just there

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<v Speaker 1>were so many different guys that just were not baited

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<v Speaker 1>into anything. I saw some of the stunts that Miller

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<v Speaker 1>was running, Billy Turner's picking that up. I just it

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<v Speaker 1>was such an incredible performance in that regard. It was

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<v Speaker 1>very understated in this but the fact that Rogers was upright,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that his jersey was clean, as he said

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<v Speaker 1>on a muddy night, um that that is absolutely huge,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in a short week. Yeah, well the Packers again

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<v Speaker 1>for the third straight week. We're talking about a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of issues that the Packers need to work out because it's,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the simplest way to say it is, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lack of consistency on offense. They they just haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been able to put together an extended stretch of you

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<v Speaker 1>know where you're talking three or four drives in a

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<v Speaker 1>row where everything is really clicking. I mean, nobody's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Rogers alluded to wanting to click for sixty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there's any offense in the league

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<v Speaker 1>that really can you know, be in full gear, full

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<v Speaker 1>speed ahead for sixty minutes. That's really hard to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Packers are there there in this mode right

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<v Speaker 1>now where the offense is kind of is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>in fits and starts. I mean, things will look pretty good,

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<v Speaker 1>you drive down and you get a field goal or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, but then the next couple of possessions

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<v Speaker 1>things aren't going right. Rogers was, you know, throwing some

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<v Speaker 1>balls away when you know plays that they were trying

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<v Speaker 1>to set up. Things just weren't materializing, and so it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, live to live, to play another down. You're

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<v Speaker 1>winning the game. You don't need to be in a

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<v Speaker 1>desperation mode to move the ball there. But there were

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<v Speaker 1>some things that that clearly didn't look good on offense,

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<v Speaker 1>and and Rogers, you know, maybe just maybe getting a

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<v Speaker 1>tad impatient, and that he wants this to start coming

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<v Speaker 1>around and doing it on a short week now, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows what's going to happen on Thursday night. But

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<v Speaker 1>Rogers feels very confident in the potential of this offense.

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<v Speaker 1>But he said after the game that it's getting time

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<v Speaker 1>to where the potential needs to start matching the performance,

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<v Speaker 1>and that hasn't happened, sure, right, because I mean you're

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<v Speaker 1>almost at the first quarter pole right going through this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>so I mean you need to be able to start

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<v Speaker 1>finding your identity. Truman Williams said it about the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't really willing to, you know, make any big,

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<v Speaker 1>high arching, uh you know, proclamations about the defense. He

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<v Speaker 1>wants to see one more game. The offense is on

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<v Speaker 1>the same side of that coin, trying to see what

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<v Speaker 1>they are now going into October. The thing you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>understand about Aaron Rodgers. He's seen a lot of football.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna have eye expectations. You and I remember two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand eleven and two thousand fourteen intervals where they just

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<v Speaker 1>threw the ball, you know, they rolled the ball out

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<v Speaker 1>in the field. The Packers scored seven points. Uh that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the optimum situation, but it's always not always realistic.

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<v Speaker 1>For the NFL, they're trying to find just that galvanizing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't use galvanizing because that got thrown around last

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<v Speaker 1>year a lot. But they're just trying to find that

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<v Speaker 1>consistency factor that they're looking for. And I see it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you look at you know, some of the plays,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it was a drop past here, they're the ball

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<v Speaker 1>slipping onto Roger's hands and kind of sailing over. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was Geronimo Allison in a potential third down situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there are are opportunities Robert Tany going down

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<v Speaker 1>the sideline, the ball just a couple of yards out

0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:04.680
<v Speaker 1>of his reach. You see where those moments are, and

0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:07.600
<v Speaker 1>they're just trying to find those and grab those. But

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<v Speaker 1>more than anything else, I just think it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be about this team kind of finding a rhythm, getting

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<v Speaker 1>out to a fast start, which they've done the last

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks, but then winning the third downs. There were

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<v Speaker 1>two and nine again on third downs in this game.

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<v Speaker 1>So whether it is getting to third and short or

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<v Speaker 1>just converting when you need to, those are the type

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<v Speaker 1>of plays I feel like are what can be sort

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<v Speaker 1>of the gateway to opening up what they're looking for. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>quickly before we go here, Wes, I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>your impressions on other things that you saw in Week

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<v Speaker 1>three in the NFL, because as we're taping this, the

0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Chicago Bears will be playing on Monday Night Football. But

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<v Speaker 1>don't look now West. The NFC North collectively with one

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<v Speaker 1>game left to go in the first three weeks. With

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears playing at Washington on Monday Night, the NFC

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<v Speaker 1>North is eight two and one. Yeah, not too bad

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<v Speaker 1>for a division that no one ever seems to give

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<v Speaker 1>any credits to, right, h Before I get into I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to make one point. You said it during

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<v Speaker 1>our periscope. I want to give you credit for this

0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:06.960
<v Speaker 1>because it's the last chance I'll be able to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was touting Okay, uh was it? Truman Smith Trumon

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<v Speaker 1>tramont I can never get that right. I was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just, you know, big debut, possibly a kickoff. Retorney.

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<v Speaker 1>You said Brandon McManus is gonna be there. That may

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<v Speaker 1>get negated. It did. You didn't get a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>see him in that capacity. So as far as this week,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to give you credit for that because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think we're gonna get a other chance to mention that.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Detroit man, I mean, and they're finding ways to

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<v Speaker 1>win right now. Uh. They still really don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>consistent running game. Matthew Stafford through for two and one yards,

0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:46.840
<v Speaker 1>but they were opportunistic. They capitalized when opportunities presented themselves,

0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:52.520
<v Speaker 1>and they beat the Philadelphia Eagles on the road, which

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<v Speaker 1>is not easy to do. Minnesota bounced back. I just

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<v Speaker 1>I think this whole division is going to be something

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<v Speaker 1>to really follow this year. There's a reason why I

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<v Speaker 1>keep bringing it up. But there's a reason why Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers said he thought there could be four teams in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC North for top ten defenses. It just really

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<v Speaker 1>looks like the way that things are going right now.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, for my money, I think it can still

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<v Speaker 1>be the best division in football this season. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit is one of those teams that's really hard to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out right now, frankly, because they should have beaten

0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Arizona in Week one, they let a big lead get away,

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<v Speaker 1>they end up with an overtime tie. The Chargers went

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<v Speaker 1>into Detroit and missed a couple of field goals and

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<v Speaker 1>had a slew of other mistakes that kind of handed

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<v Speaker 1>a game to Detroit. And then yesterday against against the Eagles.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and we'll talk more about Philadelphia moving forward. But

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles block a field goal at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the game, and then a deep pass down the field,

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<v Speaker 1>the Philadelphia receiver has a chance to make a play

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<v Speaker 1>in his and to put Philadelphia in position to win,

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<v Speaker 1>and he drops the ball and Detroit walks out of

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia with a three point victory. And and the Lions

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<v Speaker 1>are undefeated at two oh and one, and the Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles on the flip side, two weeks in a row,

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<v Speaker 1>a dropped past late in the fourth quarter costs them

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<v Speaker 1>big time. And the Eagles are coming to lambeau Field

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<v Speaker 1>that one and two looking to avoid being one and

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<v Speaker 1>three at the quarter pole of their season. Eagles are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of finding themselves in the same situation they've been

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<v Speaker 1>in the last couple of seasons, where they just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get off to these slow starts and then they're

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly playing catchup again. But again, you can't take you

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<v Speaker 1>really can't overlook that opponent. I mean, you see exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the different areas that they can be effective. They're doing

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<v Speaker 1>a great job of defending the run right now, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're twenty nine against the past. You know, you look

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<v Speaker 1>at and they're banged up, and they're banged up. Carson Wentz,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, has been up and down. They're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>find a consistent presence with the passing game and their

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<v Speaker 1>running game has had a slow start out of the gate.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot to dissect with this matchup, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into it later this week, but I just think

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<v Speaker 1>this game, with the Packers sitting at three and o

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<v Speaker 1>and the Eagles at one and two, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to be learned about both teams. Yeah, there's some other

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<v Speaker 1>reflections I want to get to on week one, but

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do that tomorrow when we discuss the Eagles also

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<v Speaker 1>in a little bit more depth, But for now, we

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<v Speaker 1>will call it a wrap on this at aition of

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