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Speaker 3: in Frisco. Ladies, there's a lot stock bat Let's jump
Speaker 3: right to it because, well, if you haven't seen it yet,
Speaker 3: Trayvon Diggs, according to multiple reports at this point out
Speaker 3: for the season with an ACL injury. What we can't
Speaker 3: speak on because we were right there is seeing Trayvon
Speaker 3: coming out with I'm not sure if everybody saw it,
Speaker 3: but Trayvon was in crutches, was transported to get an MRI,
Speaker 3: and then the news broke of it being a season
Speaker 3: ending ac ELL injury. Obviously very somber mood here at
Speaker 3: the Stars. That news broke really right before we came
Speaker 3: on here. So Christy, I'm gonna go to you for
Speaker 3: this as far as kind of what we know so
Speaker 3: far and what we can report on it.
Speaker 4: Sure, well, the Cowboys haven't officially confirmed it yet that
Speaker 4: it's a torn acl but most folks on social media
Speaker 4: have seen the reports. And boy, just when it's two
Speaker 4: and zero and everyone's talking about how many points you're
Speaker 4: gonna whip the Cardinals by, then reality slaps you in
Speaker 4: the face and it shows you the fragile nature of
Speaker 4: the NFL and how you can have injuries in practice.
Speaker 4: And so we had just been talking all week and
Speaker 4: even last week about the defensive backfield and getting Donovan
Speaker 4: Wilson back and Jordan Wilson and Jordan Lewis ten plays left,
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, now you're going to
Speaker 4: be without one of your starting cornerbacks. So I think
Speaker 4: that the immediate aftermath is how'd he get through this weekend?
Speaker 4: So Deron Bland, you know, he's been playing inside as
Speaker 4: your nickel corner, but he has an experience playing outside,
Speaker 4: and of course he did that last year when he
Speaker 4: had to step in for Anthony Brown last year. So
Speaker 4: the most logical thing would be, well, you probably take
Speaker 4: Deron and move him from the slot and have him
Speaker 4: play outside in place of Trayvon Diggs, and then Jordan
Speaker 4: Lewis slide in because he's he had been your starter
Speaker 4: at Nickel. But the thing is last week was his
Speaker 4: first game since a very severe foot injury last year,
Speaker 4: and he was limited to ten snaps. So I don't
Speaker 4: know that you can count on Jordan Lewis that you
Speaker 4: would want to throw him out there for thirty or
Speaker 4: forty five snaps in a game, depending on how many
Speaker 4: the Cardinals get. But then the trade for Noah Igbinogamy
Speaker 4: comes through. He was traded for Kelvin Joseph. The thing is,
Speaker 4: when he had Kelvin Joseph this year in camp, he
Speaker 4: was working inside. Noah works outside. So kind of interesting
Speaker 4: to see how they're gonna move the chess pieces around.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean, well, first, I just want to
Speaker 5: say that for Trayvon Diggs, I'm just I'm incredibly disappointed
Speaker 5: for him, just because he's going into what is his
Speaker 5: third fourth year now, and the development of Corner is,
Speaker 5: you know, it's significant in a sense of like he
Speaker 5: he said it yesterday, the game is slowing down for him,
Speaker 5: so it's less wasted movement, and he just seems so
Speaker 5: much much more precise, and I just I feel for
Speaker 5: him because I really felt like he was going to
Speaker 5: have one of the best years, if not the best
Speaker 5: year of his career, and so gut it for him,
Speaker 5: really hoping that he has a healthy, healthy recovery. But
Speaker 5: in regard to you know, what choices they have and
Speaker 5: just kind of how things works.
Speaker 6: It's interesting me you were talking to the Nashan Wright.
Speaker 5: Injury seems like a big deal too, just because if
Speaker 5: he wasn't on IR he showed you doing training camp
Speaker 5: when Trayvon Days was out with that toe injury, he
Speaker 5: could hang. He looks good that for those those practices
Speaker 5: in training camps. So yeah, I mean, DQ's going to
Speaker 5: have to move some guys around. You mentioned Ron Blad
Speaker 5: being a guy that can play on the outside also too.
Speaker 5: But the issue right now, going the fact that this
Speaker 5: is happening so late in the week, you think about
Speaker 5: how do you adjust to that and what does that
Speaker 5: look like?
Speaker 6: I mean, so yeah, I'm yeah.
Speaker 4: And then you wouldn't Eric Scott, the rookie cornerback who
Speaker 4: the Cowboys are really high on and had a pretty
Speaker 4: solid camp. He's on the fifty three man roster, but
Speaker 4: he was one of the coaches game day and actives
Speaker 4: the first two weeks, so we would assume that he
Speaker 4: would be active and be a backup for this weekend.
Speaker 4: And I'm so glad you mentioned right, but the fact is,
Speaker 4: just on the list that he's on, it has to
Speaker 4: wait at least two more games before he could even
Speaker 4: come back. But I issue you're right about the fantastic
Speaker 4: year that Trayvon tad even though it's been two games.
Speaker 4: This is such a ridiculous, crazy, absurd stat But the
Speaker 4: passer rating for the opposing quarterbacks through two weeks when
Speaker 4: they target Trayvon one point zero, not one hundred one
Speaker 4: point zero, that is that is crazy. And he's been targeted.
Speaker 4: Let's see, I've got the number here. He's been targeted
Speaker 4: eight times and has given up only twenty six yards,
Speaker 4: so three point three yards per target when you're throwing
Speaker 4: towards Trayvon. That's really that is crazy. Good for Trayvon.
Speaker 4: But then you say Bland, and again it's a little
Speaker 4: bit different because he's been playing in the slot. But
Speaker 4: eight targets towards drawn Bland only sixteen yards, so two
Speaker 4: point zero yards per attempt. But it's different.
Speaker 6: Animal when you're on the outside as opposed to the inside.
Speaker 3: It is a really somber feeling here at this shure,
Speaker 3: and it makes it so eerie that we just heard
Speaker 3: from Trayvon yesterday. He just spoke to the media yesterday
Speaker 3: that stat was actually brought up to him. They said,
Speaker 3: do you know what the numbers? He said no? And
Speaker 3: then his birthday, right, it was just his birthday yesterday
Speaker 3: as well, and so they talked about, well, do you.
Speaker 6: Know what this numbers?
Speaker 3: He said no, and then he heard he said to
Speaker 3: dang like that was it? So yeah, of course, wishing
Speaker 3: Trayvon all the best going forwards. It is a devastating
Speaker 3: blow to him and everything he's worked for, everything he's
Speaker 3: been doing in these games, because we've talked about, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe he's not getting the most interceptions, but he's setting
Speaker 3: up these guys for these plays, and he's being a
Speaker 3: ball hawk without actually getting the ball. He's making those
Speaker 3: hard tackles, he's playing physical. He was on that track
Speaker 3: to possibly have the best season that we've seen from
Speaker 3: Trayvon with his tenure here with the Dallas Cowboys. So
Speaker 3: it is very disheartening to see that for a player
Speaker 3: like him. But say you have Stefan Gilmore that came
Speaker 3: in in this offseason that has made a direct impact
Speaker 3: and automatic impact so quickly that I would be ten
Speaker 3: times more worried if he wasn't in the equation right now.
Speaker 3: I think that's kind of a saving grace that there's
Speaker 3: not very many positives that you go into and it
Speaker 3: comes to player injuries, but you have a Stefan Gilmour
Speaker 3: who's become that locker room leader, you know, and he's
Speaker 3: really worked hard to be that guy for the cornerback room.
Speaker 3: So all the best to Trey. Absolutely just devastated for
Speaker 3: him and knowing that he's going to attack whatever he
Speaker 3: needs to to come back like he attacks this game.
Speaker 6: And so that's really.
Speaker 3: It's gutting. Like a USA said, there's not really another word,
Speaker 3: but something I wanted to add on to. As you
Speaker 3: mentioned Naseeon right, we were talking about him, and so Christy, yes,
Speaker 3: he is on IR right now for the team. That
Speaker 3: means he can't be eligible to return and told the
Speaker 3: Patriots game and even then, what I think is going
Speaker 3: to be interesting to watch for is Mike McCarthy goes
Speaker 3: with these ramp up periods, whether it be post injury
Speaker 3: or anything like that. The ramp up is slow, so
Speaker 3: just very much so like you saw with Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 3: he only took ten snaps in the previous game on
Speaker 3: Sunday against the Jets. You're not going to see a
Speaker 3: full force Naseean Wright coming in right away taking all
Speaker 3: of the snaps. So it's going to be interesting to
Speaker 3: see how he's kind of integrated back in, maybe with
Speaker 3: limited reps at first, and then coming back in at
Speaker 3: full force kind of towards the middle of the season
Speaker 3: when you know he's able to do so after that
Speaker 3: ramp up phase.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I just want to mention one other thing
Speaker 4: about how you compensate for the loss of Trayvon in
Speaker 4: the near term. And we're talking about like nicol and
Speaker 4: so if Deron moved from nickel to outside and Jordan
Speaker 4: Lewis is only he was. They wanted him to get
Speaker 4: ten to fifteen snaps last week and he only got ten.
Speaker 4: But the good thing is with the versatile defense to
Speaker 4: backs that dan Quinn has to work with and the
Speaker 4: cross training that they all do, there are things that
Speaker 4: you can do. You can go, for example, with a
Speaker 4: big nickel, So one of the bigger body safeties, have
Speaker 4: them come down and play and have the matchups with
Speaker 4: the tight ends, and sometimes they're even matched up with
Speaker 4: wide receivers who are in the slot. So you would
Speaker 4: see more of a big nickel or the bigger guys
Speaker 4: in the dime. You're not going to see. They call
Speaker 4: a package called penny where you bring in the extra
Speaker 4: smaller cornerbacks, but this would be more like a big
Speaker 4: nickel or a heavier dime moving forward, and that's a
Speaker 4: good matchup anyway. And when you're playing a team like
Speaker 4: the Cardinals and one of the go to guys is
Speaker 4: zach Ertz, you know some of the bigger guys anyway.
Speaker 5: So maybe like in the short term, since you ring
Speaker 5: up that point, the short term, Woul Jordan Louis will
Speaker 5: be in a rampo face. If zach Ertz is the
Speaker 5: bigger body guy that they use in the slot or
Speaker 5: whatever the case may be, maybe we would see an
Speaker 5: Israel m Kwalm take on that exactly. He plays that
Speaker 5: against big slock guys.
Speaker 4: And Marquise Bell he's been playing the linebacker, but he's
Speaker 4: a safety, you know.
Speaker 7: Maybe Thomas absolutely absolutely, with all due respect though watching
Speaker 7: is Realmcuonmo's game watching I plays is Romakualamu is a
Speaker 7: corner and he's a good corner.
Speaker 5: And he has that fire that Trayvon plays with. He
Speaker 5: plays physical, but also too he can match the length
Speaker 5: that Trayvon brings, because that's one of the biggest things
Speaker 5: that Trayvon brings to this defense is that he can
Speaker 5: take away a whole part of a field because he
Speaker 5: has the length. Very curious to see how they decide
Speaker 5: to go forward with his room quambo just because they
Speaker 5: I think his skill set shows corner stuff and he
Speaker 5: I feel like he's far more effective on the boundary
Speaker 5: than he is even as a slot guy because of
Speaker 5: his size. So I would be curious to see if
Speaker 5: they give that open competition, if he's thrown in the
Speaker 5: hat as a contact could because I bet he can
Speaker 5: match the energy and also playing safety and having that
Speaker 5: versatility is vision is good.
Speaker 6: I would love to see him get the opportunity to
Speaker 6: show that.
Speaker 4: He isn't going I think you're right right, and I
Speaker 4: think it's going to be matchup week to week. Right,
Speaker 4: It's going to depend on the packages that they're expecting
Speaker 4: to see from the opponent. But we should share some
Speaker 4: good news, and that is that Donovan Wilson, which looks
Speaker 4: to be on track. Of course, this will be his
Speaker 4: season debut as he makes its way back from a
Speaker 4: calf injury. But he was listed as a full participant
Speaker 4: again today as he was yesterday.
Speaker 6: So that's stretching down a practice report.
Speaker 3: Actually reading my mind. So let's go down the practice
Speaker 3: report and then we have to take a break here
Speaker 3: in one minute. So something something to think about. Brandon Cooks,
Speaker 3: Tyler Smith, Jimmy Doga all full participants in practice, which
Speaker 3: is an upgrade from the limited that they were on Wednesday.
Speaker 3: Donovan Wilson, like you mentioned, was a full participant. Jaron
Speaker 3: Curse and Zach Morton did not participate. And then Taylor
Speaker 3: Beyotish added to this injury report today as a limited participant.
Speaker 6: With the hamstring injury as well.
Speaker 3: So more things to keep an eye on as we
Speaker 3: continue on through the week.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean I will say that I did
Speaker 5: get to touch base with Tyler Beyottish in the locker room.
Speaker 5: I know a lot of people missed him, but he
Speaker 5: seemed like he was in good spirits.
Speaker 6: He seemed fine. I asked him how his body was feeling.
Speaker 6: He was like, I'm good, you know, so I know
Speaker 6: that it just was.
Speaker 5: It was sent out though that a source said that
Speaker 5: he should be okay, so that mirrors me seeing him
Speaker 5: like and he seemed fine. So I would assume that
Speaker 5: the hamstring thing is a precautionary thing for the MRI.
Speaker 5: And yeah, it's it's just been a tough day in
Speaker 5: the office for everybody.
Speaker 6: Man definitely.
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Speaker 10: Thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah, I've been a couple
Speaker 10: of years back in Dallas. It's been been out here
Speaker 10: in Aerona for almost two years today, which is crazy how.
Speaker 11: Much it's gone by. But I appreciate you guys having
Speaker 11: me on.
Speaker 3: Yes, well killing it as always, Danny. We want to
Speaker 3: start by asking you. Let's start with the injury report first.
Speaker 3: We just got that injury report. Is there any notable
Speaker 3: injuries on the cardinal side of things going into this
Speaker 3: matchup that we should know about at this point?
Speaker 10: Not really. The only one would have been depending line
Speaker 10: unlucky spot to the most Sunday game against the Giants
Speaker 10: with the should He's been a full qui event the
Speaker 10: last two days of practice, so expect to happen that
Speaker 10: from the line, which is huge because the other major
Speaker 10: injuries that were on that report.
Speaker 11: Defensive lineman Carlos walk Into's here with the biceps injury,
Speaker 11: will have surgery and be out for some time.
Speaker 10: And instead of defensive lineman.
Speaker 11: Alga Collier deal with the same injury, he's.
Speaker 10: Already on IR. Linebacker Josh woodstill with an ankle. Don't
Speaker 10: expections of play. He hasn't played seek one, So no
Speaker 10: real changes, I would imagine I'll been, you know, hopefully
Speaker 10: going the right way for the rest of the week
Speaker 10: for the Cardinals. So from an injury standpoint, no real
Speaker 10: surprise from that report. Of course, you are also without
Speaker 10: who the Baker who recently went on IR with a handstring.
Speaker 11: Injury, So a couple of big defenders that will be no.
Speaker 10: Feels for the Cardinals to use.
Speaker 4: Danny, I have to ask what the what it's been
Speaker 4: like the talk around the locker room. I imagine the
Speaker 4: word finish has probably come up a bit, uh this
Speaker 4: week because that lost to the Giants is blowing in
Speaker 4: twenty one point lead and just collapsing, you know, midway
Speaker 4: through the third quarter through through the rest of it,
Speaker 4: you know, what's the mood out there and what is
Speaker 4: what is happening with this team in the second half
Speaker 4: of the games the first two.
Speaker 11: Weeks absolutely finished. Husband the big question this week and
Speaker 11: not just this game, but the Cardinals als will have
Speaker 11: to lead Week one in Washington, Arizone as an outscoord
Speaker 11: twenty seven to nothing in the fourth quarter. So execution
Speaker 11: for whatever reason has not carried on throughout an entire game.
Speaker 11: But this team has shown flashes, and I guess if
Speaker 11: you're looking for some sort of hope that that's what
Speaker 11: it is as a Cardinals fand as you see the
Speaker 11: flashes from this team, it's now just a matter of putting.
Speaker 10: That together for an entire game. I think the offense
Speaker 10: was struggling for whatever reason the end of that third
Speaker 10: quarter into the fourth quarter, and then you had your
Speaker 10: defense out there for a much longer time, not only
Speaker 10: dealing with a running back like staatelall Barkley, but a
Speaker 10: mobile quarterback like Daniel Jones. And I think samina came
Speaker 10: into play, especially with some of those defensive laws injuries
Speaker 10: that I was touching on when Carlos Walkins reads the
Speaker 10: game pretty early with the by sets injury. But that's
Speaker 10: the position for that. This defense has really been relying
Speaker 10: on a rotation, and that was the plan to rotate
Speaker 10: your five or six guys. And now that you have
Speaker 10: Carlos Walkin's and LJ. Colly are out with bicets injury
Speaker 10: and the succeinable future, that kind of changes things. You
Speaker 10: don't want your players having a higher snap count than
Speaker 10: what you would like, so I would assume that there'd
Speaker 10: be an adjustment period there. But you're right, for whatever reason,
Speaker 10: four poor struggles have become a pattern. Who is two weeks.
Speaker 10: I think it was a pretty big wake up call.
Speaker 10: The seeing that this team had twenty nothing need at
Speaker 10: behalf and then watching that collapse of maybe a little
Speaker 10: bit of the confidence said Okay, we can do this,
Speaker 10: but we need to make sure that we're carrying this
Speaker 10: throughout an entire game.
Speaker 5: Danny Michael Wilson as a gentleman that you folks drafted
Speaker 5: this past year wide receiver number fourteen. He's a gentleman
Speaker 5: that in the draft I was very impressed with with
Speaker 5: his route running ability, especially given how tall he is,
Speaker 5: how has he performed, and what's the overall feeling of
Speaker 5: what he brings to the team. And just how he's
Speaker 5: progressed that he's gotten into the league.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Michael Wilson has a great training camp, great pre season.
Speaker 10: Really kills a void in terms of that size that
Speaker 10: you lost from DeAndre Hopkins. And we've heard from teammates
Speaker 10: whose coaches not just the physical ability but also the
Speaker 10: mental side of things and being able to pick up
Speaker 10: this team rather quickly. So I think that he has
Speaker 10: a unique skill set on the rest of the receivers
Speaker 10: in terms of you know, you've got Ronga Warriors, thought,
Speaker 10: he's got Hollywood Brown, They've got the steam cover, they
Speaker 10: can create that separation. Michael Wilson's going to give you
Speaker 10: that side for those contested balls. We just haven't seen
Speaker 10: enough of really a downfield presence. There wasn't one, and
Speaker 10: he's one. Given torback Josh Shams only has his practices
Speaker 10: with the team. The annoyance hardly the strongest defensive line
Speaker 10: in Washington, So the game plan kind of changes the
Speaker 10: team and the past as you're running. So tell a
Speaker 10: little bit more of that presence in Week two against
Speaker 10: the Giants. But that's something I'm keeping my eye on,
Speaker 10: is me to have more of that down to But
Speaker 10: you have to get players like Michael Wilson involved because
Speaker 10: he really hasn't been quite yet. The main receiver has
Speaker 10: really been tied in Yeah hurt. So I'm looking to
Speaker 10: see more of that connection now that Josh Doobbins entering
Speaker 10: the thirty weeks first time in his career, is beginning
Speaker 10: three straight starts. But that is a player ding to
Speaker 10: Michael Wilson that I think if this team can really
Speaker 10: start to rely on him, I think that he can
Speaker 10: bring a lot to this offense.
Speaker 2: Danny, with Budda Baker now being on IR obviously not
Speaker 2: being an aspect in this game, who's a locker room guy,
Speaker 2: locker room leader that has potentially stepped up that you've
Speaker 2: seen maybe this week or in practice to maybe keep
Speaker 2: an eye on, that might be considered an underdog in
Speaker 2: this matchup.
Speaker 10: You know, that's a good question. I mean this team,
Speaker 10: I mean you were talked about early aversity of the
Speaker 10: teams without their best player on offense and Kyler Murray
Speaker 10: and their best player in Ja and Buddah Baker and
Speaker 10: Dudah Baker. It's almost hard to describe because he brings
Speaker 10: what people see of how he brings what he brings
Speaker 10: on the field. It's also what he brings in that
Speaker 10: locker room. I mean our kinds of coordinator Nikolallas is
Speaker 10: off in the media this week and said, you need
Speaker 10: all of loving guys who even try to emulate all
Speaker 10: of books the Baker brings to this team. So that
Speaker 10: is something that you're going.
Speaker 11: To have to find someone. You're right, You're gonna have
Speaker 11: to find someone to step up as a leader. I
Speaker 11: think if you're looking on consent, when you're looking there
Speaker 11: isn't a ton of veteran presence. But I do think
Speaker 11: in that DV room, Jamie Thompson, who's normally look that
Speaker 11: duo of Buda Baker is experienced, also leaves by example.
Speaker 11: And I think you're going to really have to continue
Speaker 11: to rely on David Collins, who's been here a few
Speaker 11: years now, first round picks for the Cardinals, who's made
Speaker 11: the move full time outside as an edge rusher and
Speaker 11: has really played well, and that transition that we've seen
Speaker 11: for the first two games, and I think that's somebody
Speaker 11: that you're going to have to look on and rely
Speaker 11: on to stop up in Buddha Baker's absence. So there's
Speaker 11: a lot of adversity that this team unfortune is already facing,
Speaker 11: but you know Cowboys is well now unfortunate and that
Speaker 11: boat to a certain degree.
Speaker 4: Hey, Danny, you mentioned Josh Dobbs earlier, who's playing quarterback
Speaker 4: in place of Murray and making his third straight start.
Speaker 4: I don't know how many interactions that you've had with him,
Speaker 4: because he's only been there a month, but I'd love
Speaker 4: to hear what he's like as a person, because there
Speaker 4: aren't too many aerospace engineers in the NFL, right who
Speaker 4: play who play quarterback, and but just he's a remarkable story. Obviously,
Speaker 4: a very bright young man and a great story, you know,
Speaker 4: a great spokesperson, and really an inspiration for folks with alopecia.
Speaker 4: He's done a lot of community things with that. And
Speaker 4: he can run now when he ran over the dB,
Speaker 4: you know on his long touchdown run. He's got some legs.
Speaker 4: It's not the skiddery fast necessarily like Kyler Murray. But
Speaker 4: he's gonna be a threat with his legs against this
Speaker 4: Cowboys defense.
Speaker 8: Isn't he.
Speaker 11: You hit the nail on the head with all things
Speaker 11: about Josh Dobbs from the interactions I've had with him
Speaker 11: so far, Christy just a really nice guy, very seems
Speaker 11: very honest and open with the media, and very smart.
Speaker 11: And that was the first adjectives we heard for at
Speaker 11: least a week from any coach or teammate we asked
Speaker 11: about Josh Dobbs after he was traded. There was intelligence
Speaker 11: and that was the first word. And Dobbs actually made
Speaker 11: a joke of look, it's not rocket science, right. Quarterback
Speaker 11: is a very cebibral position, so he knows he could
Speaker 11: handle that. I think the situation that he's founentslf in
Speaker 11: that he has handled himself really well in terms of
Speaker 11: quickly grasping this scheme. Week one a week two was
Speaker 11: a huge jump in confidence in his mobility and his
Speaker 11: quick releases, and you saw that throughout the entire offense.
Speaker 11: Josh Dobbs is actually a quarterback. This staff, this front
Speaker 11: office was interested in earlier in the off season. Just
Speaker 11: a matter of his contract and things like that kind
Speaker 11: of hells up getting him sooner than they did. But
Speaker 11: I think that all things considered, he has fit in
Speaker 11: pretty well.
Speaker 10: And Dobbs does have.
Speaker 11: Some experience with some coaches on the bass offensive Corney
Speaker 11: ter Drew Petsing, while our quarterbacks coach into a roll force.
Speaker 11: They all spent some time together in Cleveland. So Josh
Speaker 11: Dobbs has shown that he has the ability the accuracy
Speaker 11: for some of those longer throwers who finally saw some
Speaker 11: chunk plays last week that we did not see week
Speaker 11: one in Washington. So that mobility is really what this
Speaker 11: coaching bass and was looking for. That was part of
Speaker 11: the reason they walked away from veteran Colt McCoy, just
Speaker 11: because Josh Dobbs has that mobility. You're right, pass not
Speaker 11: to the Kyler Murray extent, but he is able to
Speaker 11: extend the plays, get out of the pocket.
Speaker 10: And we saw him use his legs.
Speaker 11: And also that he's not afraid to truck and defend
Speaker 11: your getting into the end zone and also on that
Speaker 11: two point conversion. So because Dobbs has been here for
Speaker 11: such a short amount of time, it is realistic that
Speaker 11: he can make a big jump from one week to
Speaker 11: the next. So I am expecting to see some more
Speaker 11: growth from him now from week two to week three.
Speaker 6: Danny.
Speaker 5: There's been a lot of changes, as you've mentioned, as
Speaker 5: far as the trade, the training staff, the coaching staff,
Speaker 5: and obviously the head coach change and Ganning coming in
Speaker 5: there and everything. How do you think the team has
Speaker 5: responded to, you know, the coaching changes and do you
Speaker 5: think that plays a role and just kind of how
Speaker 5: how things have kind of unfolded this first couple of weeks.
Speaker 5: Them trying to gel them trying to get better communication,
Speaker 5: like you like you just talked about, you know, Dobbs
Speaker 5: is just coming in and this is his third full week.
Speaker 5: How do you think the team is responded to the
Speaker 5: changes that have been made in the off season.
Speaker 11: I think that the team, excuse me, has been responding well.
Speaker 11: I mean, this is the team's been doing in the
Speaker 11: off season. We were going to start the season without
Speaker 11: your franchise quarterbacks. You end up trading away one of
Speaker 11: your top receivers. Are not trading away, but releasing one
Speaker 11: of your top receivers can be on your hopkins. You
Speaker 11: trade away your former first round picking Isaiah Simmons. So
Speaker 11: there's been a lot of change, but has seemed like
Speaker 11: the culture that this new coaching staff under Jonathan Bannon
Speaker 11: and this new front office under money as important that
Speaker 11: the culture they're settying really has been panning out well
Speaker 11: for the team. We've seen that in the effort and
Speaker 11: the aggression that they've played with through two games. Actually
Speaker 11: asked Jonathan Gannon the question about the culture earlier this
Speaker 11: week when we were talking to the media. Obviously, winning
Speaker 11: culture means winning games, right, and that's not the case
Speaker 11: when you're own team like Arizona. But I asked him
Speaker 11: how much he has seen the culture work that they
Speaker 11: were putting in all off season for getting here, how
Speaker 11: we've seen that through the team through these first two
Speaker 11: weeks again, and told me that he has seen it
Speaker 11: and the work and not getting down on themselves and
Speaker 11: showing up Monday ready to learn and to get better,
Speaker 11: and that the culture they're trying to create is not
Speaker 11: necessarily results driven, but more process driven. And when you
Speaker 11: are process driven, that's how you're going to get those
Speaker 11: your goals.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but building a culture takes time. And there's been
Speaker 4: so much turnover with the roster, what like fifty seven
Speaker 4: percent of the players something like that. Yeah, and you
Speaker 4: also your offensive coordinator and your defensive coordinator is their
Speaker 4: first time to call play. So my point is, and
Speaker 4: your quarterback's been in the building less than a month,
Speaker 4: so this is something that takes time. The question is
Speaker 4: what about the Cardinals fan base? Are they showing some
Speaker 4: patients or is the are the Daggers already out?
Speaker 11: No, I will say, thankfully, they are showing patients, which
Speaker 11: is good. I think. I think there's hope right, which
Speaker 11: is what if you're a Cardinal fan after having a
Speaker 11: rough year and a half the way that two years
Speaker 11: ago the wheels fall off and last year, that's what
Speaker 11: you want. I think that all started when maniof Support
Speaker 11: brought in Jonathan Gannon and you saw the staff being
Speaker 11: put together, when you saw the draft, what maniof Support
Speaker 11: was able to do, making trades to get more picks,
Speaker 11: planning ahead for the future, the picks he made and
Speaker 11: getting Paris jauntson Junior, an offensive lineman that you're planning
Speaker 11: on having here for a very long time. Let's plays
Speaker 11: very well. Might I add to his first two games,
Speaker 11: the decisions that have been made in terms of cap space,
Speaker 11: bringing in types of players that are the right fit
Speaker 11: on and off the field. I think that that is
Speaker 11: what the Cardinals fans are having hope about. Is you
Speaker 11: can see that things are moving in the right direction,
Speaker 11: and that goes back to the culture that even though
Speaker 11: this team is zero and two, I think it's safe
Speaker 11: to say that they have exceeded the expectations before the
Speaker 11: season started on what people were expecting from them. And
Speaker 11: that doesn't just come from the personnel and the skills
Speaker 11: that they have on the field, but that goes back
Speaker 11: to the effort and the type of you know, the
Speaker 11: passion that they are playing with. This team has had
Speaker 11: a very difficult time though, winning at home at State
Speaker 11: Folm Stadium. The only home win last season was Thursday
Speaker 11: night against the Saint So fans are understandably desperate to
Speaker 11: get that home win, right if you're going to the
Speaker 11: game and you want to be able to see your
Speaker 11: home team win in person. But I don't realize there
Speaker 11: are daggers with this stand base. Right now, it feels
Speaker 11: like you can tell that this team is really working
Speaker 11: on correcting things and creating long term success on the field.
Speaker 3: In the locker room, well, Danny, I guess the final
Speaker 3: question is what color is your family going to wear
Speaker 3: this weekend.
Speaker 11: That's a good question. I think I know which part
Speaker 11: of my family. All my family lives in Dallas, but
Speaker 11: I know some of my family's gonna be rocking Cardinals gear,
Speaker 11: like my little Teal nephew, who when I was talking
Speaker 11: to him on the phone other day a picture day
Speaker 11: this week at pre school and told me he was
Speaker 11: gonna wart his bird Gen jersey, which is his Kyler
Speaker 11: Murray jersey. So I think that part of my family
Speaker 11: will be in Cardinals gear. My dad for sure is
Speaker 11: going to be split. I know him well enough to
Speaker 11: know he's going to be wearing a Cowboy shirt and
Speaker 11: a Cardinal pad or maybe vice versa. But he will
Speaker 11: definitely still be rocking some of that Cowboy's blue, but
Speaker 11: still some of that Cardinals red, which I appreciate.
Speaker 10: It's going to be.
Speaker 11: It's gonna be pretty split. I think most of my family.
Speaker 11: At the end of the day, it's a win win.
Speaker 11: If the Cowboys win, that's great, and if the Cardinals win,
Speaker 11: that's great because I'm happy.
Speaker 3: That's a good way to put it. Well, Danny, thank
Speaker 3: you so much for joining us on here. It's so
Speaker 3: great to hear from you again. And I'm sure everybody
Speaker 3: listening miss hearing you on here as well, so we
Speaker 3: appreciate you keep absolutely killing it in Arizona, and we
Speaker 3: are big Danny Surrek fans here on Girls Talk, Boys Talk.
Speaker 11: I appreciate you also much. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 11: I'm gonna tell you, guys, I I told them earlier
Speaker 11: on Mick Shots, which is, with the exception of this
Speaker 11: week's game, I hope you guys have a great rest
Speaker 11: of your season.
Speaker 4: Back at you, Back at you after this weekend. See
Speaker 4: you on the field, See you on the field Sunday.
Speaker 4: Ah waits all.
Speaker 3: Right, thanks so much, Danny. We're going to take our
Speaker 3: next break here on the podcast. When we come back,
Speaker 3: we're going to get a little bit more into matchups
Speaker 3: and what news we officially just got from the team.
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Speaker 3: All right, Well, the Dallas Cowboys making it official about
Speaker 3: Trayvon Diggs saying that cornerback Trayvon Digg suffered a left
Speaker 3: knee injury during today's practice. An MRI was performed that
Speaker 3: confirmed the torn ACL. A timetable for Diggs's return to
Speaker 3: play has not been established, but he is currently projected
Speaker 3: to miss the remainder of the current season. Officially official,
Speaker 3: everybody again, it's it's gutting. I usual have found a
Speaker 3: tweet from Micah that he just tweeted out. If we
Speaker 3: want to talk about that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he just tweeted out, I am my brother's keeper.
Speaker 5: You know, I you know, there's nothing more that needs
Speaker 5: to be said. And honestly, I feel like, one I
Speaker 5: believe him. He said, I am my brother's keeper. I
Speaker 5: got you seven No more needs.
Speaker 6: To be said.
Speaker 5: And one thing about Micah and also this defense is,
Speaker 5: even though this is this is gut wrenching and it hurts,
Speaker 5: I feel like they have the guys to to you know,
Speaker 5: to take the step up and to rally together. They
Speaker 5: have that that chemistry and that culture on that side
Speaker 5: of the ball to protect each other and to you know,
Speaker 5: figure things out.
Speaker 6: So I believe Micah when he says I'm my brother's keeper.
Speaker 6: I believe that.
Speaker 3: And the thing about Trayvon is uh, he is a
Speaker 3: locker room leader. He's very quiet and how he does it,
Speaker 3: but he leads by example and he talked about that earlier,
Speaker 3: I believe, right before the season had started. He he
Speaker 3: talked about lead by example and he doesn't necessarily have
Speaker 3: to be the most vocal guy in the room to
Speaker 3: be a leader. And I think, you know, even though
Speaker 3: he's not the most vocal guy, and you know, when
Speaker 3: he talks, he's very self spoken and he's not you know,
Speaker 3: going to be loud with with what he's saying, his
Speaker 3: actions are very loud. And he's the kind of guy
Speaker 3: that's very intentional with his actions, very intentional with how
Speaker 3: he works, and he's very methodical in that way. And
Speaker 3: so yeah, a big blow is as far as there
Speaker 3: are the defense's brother, a teammate, somebody that they really
Speaker 3: look up to and look, you know, look to as
Speaker 3: as that leader. So yeah, wishing Trayvon all the best.
Speaker 3: We can't we can't say it enough here, We really,
Speaker 3: uh we hate to see any injury happen, but when
Speaker 3: it's somebody like Trayvon, who is just a man absolutely
Speaker 3: projected to have such a good season, it stings. And
Speaker 3: so wishing him the best. But now we kind of
Speaker 3: have to look at how does this impact this weekend? Christy,
Speaker 3: we were just talking about that, going into a little
Speaker 3: bit more of those options, how it could impact the matchup,
Speaker 3: the matchups potentially Josh Stobbs going a little bit more
Speaker 3: downfield with his passes, trying to bully the weaker side.
Speaker 6: If you will, the weaker man with.
Speaker 3: Whoever they decide to put out there. But Christy, what
Speaker 3: is the most viable option at this point when you
Speaker 3: look at.
Speaker 4: The Yeah, take Deron Bland and move him from nickel
Speaker 4: to outside. He stepped in for Anthony Brown last year
Speaker 4: and hey Dern Bland helps save this backfield the defensive
Speaker 4: backfield through the last half of last season led the
Speaker 4: team in interceptions with five, already has a pick six
Speaker 4: this year. The only thing is he, you know, has
Speaker 4: done his work in the nicol and so but like
Speaker 4: I said earlier, I think that there are enough versatile players,
Speaker 4: there are enough chess pieces that that Dan Quinn can
Speaker 4: can move around that it's really going to be more
Speaker 4: matchup driven week to win, whether you're going with the
Speaker 4: big nickel and things like that. But yeah, it's just
Speaker 4: the thing is it's the playmaking part of it, and
Speaker 4: we know that Deron Bland is one of those. But
Speaker 4: having Donovan Wilson come back this week, and I know
Speaker 4: it's a different position, he plays safety, but what has
Speaker 4: been the strength of the defense through the first two
Speaker 4: weeks of these this season. It's the same as it
Speaker 4: was last year. It's the ability to take the ball
Speaker 4: away and to get a good pass rush. And so
Speaker 4: Donovan Wilson coming back is one of those catalytic players,
Speaker 4: one of the guys that, like Trayvon Diggs, makes plays
Speaker 4: on the ball. And as the coaches always say, you know,
Speaker 4: you look at the last few seasons, if there was
Speaker 4: a takeaway, Donna was usually involved. So again, there's never
Speaker 4: good timing for a serious injury like a torn acl
Speaker 4: to one of your superstar players. But at least it's
Speaker 4: fortuitous that Wilson has been a full participant this week
Speaker 4: and looks to make his season debut on Sunday against Arizona.
Speaker 5: You make a very good point about the safety room
Speaker 5: and the safety room being strong kind of levels this
Speaker 5: out a little bit more in my opinion, just the
Speaker 5: way that they're able to be used, like you're talking
Speaker 5: about in a nickel, but also to just depend on
Speaker 5: what coverages and some of these these safeties are hybrids
Speaker 5: and that's helpful too.
Speaker 6: So I agree with you.
Speaker 5: I'm very curious to see how dan Quinn goes forward
Speaker 5: and how he rolls these.
Speaker 6: Guys out there.
Speaker 5: But when you talk about Donovan Wilson coming back, I
Speaker 5: think that's huge two for this next game. When you
Speaker 5: talk about I heard Michael McCarthy mention today rush lane discipline.
Speaker 6: Yes, especially with a guy like Josh Dobbs.
Speaker 5: You guys talked very heavily about you and Danny talked
Speaker 5: about his running ability. And so I was able to
Speaker 5: catch up with Demon Clark about this earlier, I mean
Speaker 5: earlier in the locker room, and he just was explaining
Speaker 5: what rush lane discipline is because I wanted to know.
Speaker 5: And he basically said that when when a defense like
Speaker 5: the Cowboys can rush four, it's four on five. So
Speaker 5: the offense does have the advantage with the running back
Speaker 5: being able to well the running back, the quarterback being
Speaker 5: able to run the.
Speaker 6: Ball and escape if necessary.
Speaker 5: And he really spoke about how much they emphasized in
Speaker 5: this offseason because that's what gashed them a lot last year.
Speaker 6: Josh Dobbs gashed in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Tennessee, Yes, Tennessee.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 5: When the rush lane discipline and where that comes from.
Speaker 6: Is the A and B gap.
Speaker 5: So the defensive line, the interior has to be disciplined
Speaker 5: and making sure that they do enough.
Speaker 6: To clog up that area.
Speaker 5: So that's not an option for him, but incomes Donovan.
Speaker 6: Wilson and those guys.
Speaker 5: When you talk about him escaping possibly to the edges,
Speaker 5: you it's either a linebacker or however they decide.
Speaker 6: To do it. So I just thought that was really.
Speaker 5: Important, especially moving forward with this team, because that was
Speaker 5: a kryptonite for this defense last year, where mobile quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: And and sorry he's but yeah.
Speaker 5: So that was just something for the matchup that I
Speaker 5: thought was important as rustling discipline in my custom.
Speaker 4: One of the things with matchup though, because Josh Dobbs
Speaker 4: spoke to the media in Arizona today and so he
Speaker 4: was asking that most of the questions were about him
Speaker 4: trucking running over the defender into the end zone on
Speaker 4: that I think it was a twenty seven yard touchdown run.
Speaker 4: But Josh pointed out that they were playing a lot
Speaker 4: of man last week and what that means is once
Speaker 4: from Dobbs's standpoint, once he broke through, once he came
Speaker 4: out of the pocket and started running up field. Yeah,
Speaker 4: the backs are turned because the defenders they're following their
Speaker 4: man in coverage as opposed to a zone where your
Speaker 4: eyes are always on the quarterback. So I'm not predicting
Speaker 4: that it's going to be all man this week, or
Speaker 4: that it's going to be all zone. But that's one
Speaker 4: of the things where you when you see a quarterback
Speaker 4: get a lot of yards downfield. It's often when there's
Speaker 4: a lack of the discipline, as Ayisha's talking about in
Speaker 4: terms of maintaining the gaps the discipline, but also it's
Speaker 4: often man defense with the defensive backs their backs are
Speaker 4: turned and so by the time that they see that,
Speaker 4: you know the guy's taken off their way downfield, or
Speaker 4: you know they're not reacting as quickly as if they
Speaker 4: were in his own.
Speaker 3: Something I wanted to ask you guys, was Jordan Lewis
Speaker 3: only getting ten snaps. It's not really a lot to
Speaker 3: base how he looks so far, but from what you saw,
Speaker 3: what are some things you can gather from Jordan Lewis
Speaker 3: coming off of the Liz Frank injury. That was horrific,
Speaker 3: But credit to him for coming back, rehabing back. Some
Speaker 3: things you saw that Jaylu looked like Jaylu once again.
Speaker 6: Maybe were the goal.
Speaker 4: I was told before the game on the sideline that
Speaker 4: the goal was to get him ten to fifteen snaps.
Speaker 4: He got ten. But then keep in mind, there were
Speaker 4: only what forty three or forty seven offensive snaps in
Speaker 4: the whole game, just because they couldn't keep a drive
Speaker 4: going and the Cowboys had the huge edge in time
Speaker 4: of possession, so there weren't that many defensive plays. But
Speaker 4: you know, to go from a ten to fifteen pitch
Speaker 4: count to thirty plus, you know, that's that's quite a change.
Speaker 4: So I'll be interested to see how they try and
Speaker 4: manage his amount of snaps this weekend.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, to answer your question, he came in and had
Speaker 5: to pass break up.
Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 5: In college, they call him Velcrow just because of how sticky.
Speaker 6: He can be in coverage.
Speaker 5: And one thing that I was looking for looking for
Speaker 5: from him and I will continue to look for from him,
Speaker 5: but his.
Speaker 6: The Lis Frank injury.
Speaker 5: Without Christy, I really did not understand the severity of
Speaker 5: this injury until you explained it to us and just
Speaker 5: kind of explain that how the recovery is and how
Speaker 5: it can kick guys out of like this game. It's
Speaker 5: something that if your recovery does not go well.
Speaker 6: Can stick with you for a long time.
Speaker 5: So with it being a foot injury, I've been really
Speaker 5: looking at how he plants, like how comfortable is he
Speaker 5: is he confident in planting on that foot and seeing
Speaker 5: him break on that ball, take off stride for stride,
Speaker 5: let me know that his confidence is there. Again, We've
Speaker 5: talked about it on this team plenty of times that
Speaker 5: the mental part of this is important, and so that'll
Speaker 5: just be a continuous thing that I'm looking for from him.
Speaker 5: Is that because it might get sore, it might you know,
Speaker 5: that's something that might happen. How does he continue to
Speaker 5: seem mentally and confident with his ability because the natural
Speaker 5: ability is there with him, it's just him being confident
Speaker 5: and what he's still able to do.
Speaker 3: I also think too, along with that confidence is you
Speaker 3: don't want him to lose it because Duron Bland is
Speaker 3: playing like Doron blind too, So for him to take
Speaker 3: the step back and be like Okay, this is your
Speaker 3: pony and horse show. And now I'm here and I'm
Speaker 3: still gonna be me, and I'm not gonna let kind
Speaker 3: of what happened while I was gone dictate how I
Speaker 3: feel now, because that's easy to do as a human,
Speaker 3: especially on such a competitive environment. With that, it's easy
Speaker 3: to just be like, uh, well, But the way Jordan
Speaker 3: Lewis is is he's kind of just he has a fire.
Speaker 3: When I think of Jordan Lewis, I think of fire,
Speaker 3: and he has this fire to him that just never
Speaker 3: dimmed through any of the time that we saw him
Speaker 3: sitting out, whether it was in the locker room, just
Speaker 3: in passing. He has a fire that does not go
Speaker 3: out at any point. And I think it's so important
Speaker 3: to note that about Jay Lou today. But real quick,
Speaker 3: before we run out of time, ladies, who do you
Speaker 3: expect to have a very big game going into this
Speaker 3: matchup based on what you've seen from the Cardinals, which
Speaker 3: you've seen from the Cowboys this week? Who has a big.
Speaker 6: Game for you game prediction wise? What are we predicting?
Speaker 4: I think, as Danny was talking about all of the
Speaker 4: problems along the Cardinals defensive line with their injuries that
Speaker 4: this even though the Cowboys are dealing with some injuries
Speaker 4: along the offensive line. I think that the Cowboys run
Speaker 4: the ball and keep running until Arizona stops them and
Speaker 4: be another big time of possession advantage this week and
Speaker 4: more plays because I say, just big, big game for
Speaker 4: Tony Poler.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she took mine. I was about to say, anybody
Speaker 6: that is a running back, all right, take a new one, oh,
Speaker 6: Tater tots. Uh, that's cheating.
Speaker 3: You can't just take other people.
Speaker 6: Okay, take a new one. Okay, Okay.
Speaker 3: We're trying to end on a positive note. It's a
Speaker 3: little somber trying to end on a little bit of
Speaker 3: a positive note.
Speaker 5: I just wonder if we see I mean, I don't
Speaker 5: know if they're going to just try to run the ball,
Speaker 5: but if they are, well they'll take their shots too,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 4: And on's the thing. Once they have to commit more
Speaker 4: people to stop the run, then you ride over them
Speaker 4: in the passing game or play action them. How about
Speaker 4: to run bland stepping up and shining.
Speaker 6: That's fair.
Speaker 5: I do think the linebackers will have some opportunity, maybe
Speaker 5: a little bit more opportunity than they did even last week.
Speaker 5: Because if you look at their snap count, the true
Speaker 5: light linebackers played limited snaps last week just because of
Speaker 5: how things unfolded.
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna go with three to three. I'm gonna
Speaker 6: go with the mont Clarks. He has a good day,
Speaker 6: all right, cool.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Jake Ferguson. And maybe it doesn't
Speaker 3: come up in the passing game, but I think this
Speaker 3: tight end room has a little bit of a fire
Speaker 3: under them right now because of just how things have
Speaker 3: played out these last couple of weeks. You start, you
Speaker 3: started to see the fire a night last week, You're
Speaker 3: really going to see the best of Jake Ferguson. I
Speaker 3: think this game, whether it be blocking or being that
Speaker 3: yack monster that we know he can be. So I'm
Speaker 3: going Fergie. But ladies, that is all the time we
Speaker 3: have today here on the podcast. This is our Friday,
Speaker 3: as you all know, so we won't be back here
Speaker 3: until Monday, four o'clock Central time here on Dallascowboys dot Com.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have plenty to talk about post Cowboys and
Speaker 3: Cardinals matchup. Christy be safe on the road, have all
Speaker 3: of the best time getting us all of those little
Speaker 3: nuggets that you can bring back to us here on
Speaker 3: the podcast next week.
Speaker 4: And you went the cookies from the team plane.
Speaker 9: That's what you want.
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, okay.
Speaker 6: Christy brings us cookies.
Speaker 4: So yeah, they believe it or not, they literally have
Speaker 4: milk and cookies on the Cowboys team charter f.
Speaker 3: There you go, and we're trying to get some of
Speaker 3: those cookies. So Christy, thank you so much. I U
Speaker 3: should thank you so much. We will be back here,
Speaker 3: same time, at same place next week, starting on Monday
Speaker 3: once again, so have a great.
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