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Speaker 3: Here we go. It is a Wednesday. We are live.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be going to the Vikings training camp. Penn

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Speaker 1: State head coach James Franklin in the quarterback Drew Aller

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Speaker 1: for the Nitney Lyons joining us today.

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Speaker 3: We are in Chicago, jamc.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're having an AI revolution in this country,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's going to create life altering, life

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Speaker 1: saving medical advances. I tend to be an optimist, but

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Speaker 1: it'll save all of us time. There's two ways to

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Speaker 1: look at AI. You could be afraid of it.

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Speaker 3: I am not. I think it's going to be amazing.

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Speaker 1: Also, America remains the best place for global wealth to

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Speaker 1: park its money. A lot of good things happening in sports,

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Speaker 1: but sometimes I just don't want sports to become politics.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to start today's show with that. So

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Speaker 1: let's start with that. The Dodgers. Oh, everybody's afraid of

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers. They're in a total tail spin. Bullpen imploded

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Speaker 1: again last night. Nobody can hit. They've lost ten of thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Nothing going right for the Dodgers. And I mean last

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Speaker 1: night it's the Minnesota Twins that jump out to a lead.

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Speaker 3: You know, Tawny Knox went out. They can't do anything.

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Speaker 1: Right before the season started, the offseason, it was unfair.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe all the money they have, and I

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Speaker 1: just hope sports never becomes politics. Politics in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five is fear mongering both sides. The world is going

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Speaker 1: to end, and conspiracy theories a majority on one side.

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Speaker 1: In sports, you occasionally hear it, and we heard it

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Speaker 1: about the Dodgers as we went into the season. It's unfair.

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Speaker 1: The little guy can't compete in baseball.

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Speaker 3: This year.

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Speaker 1: The Milwaukee Brewers are tied for the best record small

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Speaker 1: market Milwaukee. They have swept the Dodgers twice. They have

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Speaker 1: a great manager, Pat Murphy, excellent well run organization, hottest

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Speaker 1: team in baseball, multiple great arms.

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Speaker 3: They are going nowhere.

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Speaker 1: Little market Milwaukee, hottest team in baseball, have beaten the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers this year six.

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Speaker 3: Times and have yet to lose to them.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the last NBA Finals, we just watched

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City in Indiana, two of the smallest ten markets

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Speaker 1: GM and Sam Presty, a star from Canada. Three great stars.

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Speaker 1: They have so many draft picks they have more than

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Speaker 1: multiple team draft picks combined. Over the next decade. They're

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Speaker 1: going nowhere could very well dominate the league. Or maybe

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Speaker 1: it's Indiana. Another small market team.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the Cleveland Cavaliers, the Orlando Magic, and

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Speaker 1: the Spurs have really bright futures, much brighter in my

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Speaker 1: has one semi dynasty in small market Kansas City. The

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Speaker 1: favorite to win the Super Bowl is the second smallest market, Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: And keep your eye on the Packers and the small

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Speaker 1: market Ravens. The top four quarterbacks you know it's all

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Speaker 1: rigged are in Cincinnati, Buffalo, Kansas City, and Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: By the way, last ten years, both New York teams

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Speaker 1: if sports in this country are rigged, whoever's rigging it,

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Speaker 1: it's doing a terrible job. As for the Dodgers, it's

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Speaker 1: a tail spin. It's injuries. Nobody can hit. The bullpens exploded.

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Speaker 1: They're zero and six against the Brewers. And here's Dave

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Speaker 5: how we've been pitching, how we've been playing defense, I

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Speaker 4: There's certainly more in there. We'll be more in there.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I think as far as quality of baseball,

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Speaker 4: It really has.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Now that doesn't mean all conspiracy theories are are wrong.

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Speaker 1: Years ago, there were concerns about the tobacco industry causing cancer.

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Speaker 1: It turned out they were right. Remember those executives that

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Speaker 3: We don't know what you're.

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Speaker 1: Talking about and people said, I don't know. I've got

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Speaker 1: people in my family who are big smokers, died early. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's just we actually did land on the moon.

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Speaker 3: That one I'd put away.

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Speaker 1: But here is a story that I started last week

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Speaker 1: that it's not a conspiracy theory. It is what I

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Speaker 1: would call a reality of relationships. So Tony Rizzo talking

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Haslam, and the Manning family and Arch Manning.

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Speaker 4: Here you go.

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Speaker 6: I know it's nothing that they want to talk about,

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Speaker 6: but I'm telling you the first that Jimmy Haslam has

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Speaker 6: Manning family. I don't think it's a coincidence they acquired

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Speaker 2: It is not.

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Speaker 1: In fact, this is the worst kept secret in the South. Haslam, Jimmy,

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Speaker 1: owner of the Browns, huge sec Tennessee booster leans heavily

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Speaker 1: on the Manning family, very close to the Manning family. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's not make believe. Rsh Manning is part of the

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Speaker 1: Manning family. And this is where Nick Saban comes in.

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Speaker 1: Saban is incredibly close to not only Jimmy Haslam, but

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Speaker 1: Saban's close to the Manning family as well. And so

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Speaker 1: Saban if he could land, I'm told a top quarterback

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Speaker 1: like Harbag going to the charges for Herbert, he would

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Speaker 1: take a phone call for the NFL. And there are

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Speaker 1: two teams guaranteed to be awful this year in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: Cleveland and the Saints. Nick Saban has coached in Cleveland

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Speaker 3: And he coached at LSU. This is not a conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 1: Haslam's circle of trust, according to an article in The

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Speaker 1: Athletic last year, is the Manning family and Jimmy Sexton

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Speaker 1: Mannings are royalty in New Orleans. The children's hospital in

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Speaker 1: New Orleans is called the Mannings Children's Hospital, and the

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Speaker 1: Mannings are royalty to Jimmy Haslam. Jimmy has Them also

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Speaker 1: loves headlines. That's why he pushed the draft Johnny Manziel

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Speaker 1: It's why he signed a ridiculous guaranteed contract for Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 1: The circle of trust for Jimmy Haslam is the Manning

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Speaker 1: I've said, and there's two teams in this league that

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Speaker 1: Now that doesn't mean Saban if he doesn't take the job,

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Speaker 1: it's all lost for Cleveland. Kevin Stefanski Andrew Berry, the

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Speaker 1: poorly kept secret. The Mannings, Haslam, Jimmy Sexton, Nick Saban.

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Speaker 1: That's why I ran with that thing. Last week. Lane

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Speaker 1: Kiffen talked about it. Greg McElroy, Saban's not going to college.

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Speaker 1: He would take a call in the NFL. All right,

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Speaker 1: j Mack, You know, J Mack, you are not a

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Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist. We did land on the moon. But you

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Speaker 1: do hear this a lot. You do what you really do?

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Speaker 1: You heard it a lot about the Dodgers before the season.

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Speaker 1: There was all this fear mongering. Yankees haven't won a

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying necessarily today, though in many cases it is.

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Speaker 1: It's been Chicago teams, the White Sowks, Bulls haven't been good,

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Speaker 1: the Bears, the Giants, the Jets. So the truth is,

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Speaker 1: I think you do get more game day revenue in

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Speaker 1: big cities like New York, LA, Chicago, and Philadelphia. You

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Speaker 1: get great game day revenue. But really what runs sports

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Speaker 1: is passion, integrity, attention to detail, and sometimes in smaller

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Speaker 1: Gonzaga always told me this, this is why Gonzaga wins

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Speaker 1: more than Ucla. He said, at Gonzaga, I can sign

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Speaker 3: He goes.

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Speaker 1: If you take a Duke Caro Line of Arizona Ucla,

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Speaker 1: That is the pressure of USC What are the stars.

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Speaker 1: Who are men? Milwaukee's losing managers or the Cubs. They

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Speaker 1: go out and get another manager. Yes, sometimes you get

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Cavaliers disappointed us this year. Look at their roster

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Speaker 1: missed on many acquisitions. They'd hit on almost all of them.

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Speaker 8: I actually was at the Dodgers game last night. They

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Speaker 8: where Stefanski and the owner and the GM everybody got

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Speaker 8: on the same page saying, hey, guys, we can take

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Speaker 8: a gap year. Okay, I don't want to take a

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Speaker 8: quarterback first. Overall, let's just get the rest of the

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Speaker 8: roster ready, Let's resign Miles Garrett. Let's get some positivity

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Speaker 8: nobody's saying you're throwing a season. What there is a

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Speaker 8: high level discussion to be had about smarts and future.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they don't have to. The division has much

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Speaker 1: better rosters and much better quarterbacks. So Cleveland can try

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Speaker 1: to win, and I think in September, through good coaching,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to tank in the NFL. It'll all

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Speaker 1: take care of itself. Now, the Rams also have two

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Speaker 1: they'd give both up for a quarterback, but they're going

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Speaker 1: I think Atlanta, and Atlanta's probably going to be too

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Speaker 1: So Drew Aller's on the show later. He'll be the

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Speaker 1: and the Saints don't have to try.

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Speaker 1: The Saints are in a weaker division, so they can

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland's losing twice to the Ravens, probably losing twice

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Speaker 1: to Burrow and the Steelers roster, especially on the defensive side,

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Speaker 1: Anybody I would keep Stefanski unless I could get Saban.

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Speaker 1: The goat twenty years together, He's like, no pre snap penalties.

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Speaker 3: That is quarterbacking.

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Speaker 1: Well, I have him in the National Championship Michigan Ohio

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Speaker 13: Well, I think the reality is we're part of that

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Speaker 1: Tell me what you saw in his improvement. I'm watching TV,

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Speaker 1: It's his athleticism and movements. He's six foot five. He

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Speaker 1: games again and people start yelling and screaming. And my

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Speaker 1: take is the NIL helps coaches because you're asking boosters

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Speaker 1: to raise fifteen million dollars a year for players, They're

437
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Speaker 1: not getting rid of coaches and writing another fifty million

438
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Speaker 1: dollar buyout and then another fifty million for the next coach.

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Speaker 1: Is that coaches? Initially some blanch at the NIL. And

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Speaker 1: my take is, well, these athletic departments have to raise

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Speaker 1: so much money to retain players, they can't buy out

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Speaker 1: coaches left and right. Did you initially look at NIL

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Speaker 1: when it first arrived years ago? Were you concerned about it?

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Speaker 1: And if so, where are you now with it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: I think everybody initially was concerned. I think in theory

447
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Speaker 13: nobody had a problem with it. I think, you know,

448
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Speaker 13: when you talk about the money that college football brings in,

449
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Speaker 13: not only for the conferences but for these campuses, the

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Speaker 13: players deserve a portion of that.

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Speaker 4: I don't think anybody ever had an issue with it.

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Speaker 13: The challenge, as you know, is some programs have more

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Speaker 13: money than others, so that creates some issues. I think

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Speaker 13: some of the things that have happened in terms of

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Speaker 13: leveling the field is there's been programs that have had

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Speaker 13: a culture of giving for a long time and they

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Speaker 13: were able to transition in this world a little bit

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Speaker 13: faster than others.

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Speaker 4: But I actually would say the transfer portal.

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Speaker 13: Has got as much of an impact on that as anything,

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Speaker 13: because if you let.

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Speaker 7: Your coach go, and that coach is connected and height

463
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Speaker 7: with the team in a way should be, those guys

464
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Speaker 7: can all go into the transferport You could lose fifty

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Speaker 7: guys to go into the transfer portal by making a

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Speaker 7: coaching change, So I think that's impacted as much as anything.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I've been to Penn State's campus twice, the Nitney Lion

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Speaker 1: in which by the way, has great free popcorn just

470
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Speaker 1: in case you ever go there coach. It's a great

471
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Speaker 1: place to stay. And when I went there both times,

472
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Speaker 1: I was taken by the fact that for about an

473
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Speaker 1: hour until you drive there, there's nothing there and then

474
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Speaker 1: this beautiful stadium arrives and the campus is gorgeous. It's

475
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Speaker 1: got great architecture. But if you're looking for a city environment,

476
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Speaker 1: so now you have to recruit against maybe a usc

477
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Speaker 1: or an Ann Arbor, and I look at Penn State

478
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, when I went there, I was like, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of remote, but it's fascinating. It is such

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Speaker 1: a unique community. Did you what sold you on Penn

481
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Speaker 1: State because you had a lot of people coming after

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Speaker 1: you at success at Vanderbilt. What separates Penn State because

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Speaker 1: you're recruiting has been phenomenal since you've been there.

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Speaker 13: Well, I think a couple things. I think it depends

485
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Speaker 13: on what you're looking for. If you're looking for a

486
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Speaker 13: city school, then obviously we're not that. But you're looking

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Speaker 13: for a college town, we're kind of like the postcard

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Speaker 13: for college town.

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Speaker 4: It's it's exactly what you're looking for.

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Speaker 13: I grew up in the state of Pennsylvania, grew up

491
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Speaker 13: just outside of Philadelphia, so this is home for me.

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Speaker 4: It made sense. I understood the place.

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Speaker 13: But yeah, if you're looking to be in whether it's

494
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Speaker 13: Miami or whether it's Philadelphia or whether it's Atlanta, we're

495
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Speaker 13: not that. But if you're looking for a college town

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Speaker 13: where everything revolves around the university and it's not just

497
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Speaker 13: the football program, we sell out one hundred and seven

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Speaker 13: thousand fans in every single game. We have over seventy

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Speaker 13: thousand season tickets sold out every single year. But it's

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Speaker 13: also in our women's volleyball program, they're sold out on

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Speaker 13: a Wednesday night, they just won the national championship. It's

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Speaker 13: it's our soccer programs playing on two Tuesday night it's

503
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Speaker 13: sold out. Obviously what Kale's been able to do in wrestling.

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Speaker 13: So this is a place where football matters, the athletic

505
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Speaker 13: department matters, the university matters, and everything revolves around some

506
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Speaker 13: of these schools that are in cities.

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Speaker 4: They got a lot to compete with.

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Speaker 13: In state college, it's it's football, it's the university, it's

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Speaker 13: the athletic department.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 1: So you guys were I think eighth in the country

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Speaker 1: and defense last year and then you go get and

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Speaker 1: now you're bringing in Ohio State Jim Knowles defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 3: What is the balance between retaining what.

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Speaker 1: You did that was highly successful last year of one

516
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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty Division one programs, you were eight, and

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Speaker 1: now you bring in a different guy who has maybe

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Speaker 1: a different vision. What is the balance between doing a

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Speaker 1: lot of what you did that worked and his system.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's that's a great point.

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Speaker 13: You know, last year obviously the game before the National

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Speaker 13: Championship game, and I had three new coordinators last year,

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Speaker 13: offensive coordinator, DEFENSEI coordinator, specials car We're all new. Retain

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Speaker 13: the special teams coordinator, retaining the offensive coordinator, and then

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Speaker 13: and then went out and was able to get Jim

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Speaker 13: Knowles all these discussions. We're not in a point where

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Speaker 13: we can afford to start over, right like, Jim, you're

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Speaker 13: coming here.

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Speaker 4: We already got a really good foundation.

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Speaker 13: I've been fortunate every defensive coordinator that's worked for me

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Speaker 13: has had a top ten defense. I think that obviously

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Speaker 13: is a lot of credit to those coaches, but it's

533
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Speaker 13: also culturally kind of who we are and how we operate.

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Speaker 4: So Jim, you know, we're not asking you to come

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Speaker 4: in and change what we do.

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Speaker 13: And philosophically, we do a lot of things saying with

537
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Speaker 13: both our four down fronts, we've been a tax style.

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Speaker 13: We play man and zone. So it fit for him

539
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Speaker 13: as well. So you know, what can stay the same,

540
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Speaker 13: what needs to change, and let's get rolling. And he's

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Speaker 13: done a really good job. You know, obviously been a

542
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Speaker 13: defensive coordinator for a long time. He's been a head coach.

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Speaker 13: He's been great.

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Speaker 1: Any good questions I should ask him. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: be a real journalist here, probing journalist. Well, what do

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Speaker 1: I ask Drew? Well, anything I should ask him?

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Speaker 13: Well, what I will say is you're just gonna love him.

548
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Speaker 13: He's just he's a great person. He's obviously gotten better

549
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 13: each year. You look at kind of his recruiting journey,

550
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Speaker 13: it's different.

551
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Speaker 4: It's old school. He was not a high profile recruit.

552
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Speaker 13: I think it was a three star recruit when we

553
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Speaker 13: first started recruiting him. Ends up being based on what

554
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Speaker 13: rankings you look at, the number one recruit in the country.

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Speaker 13: It's gotten better every single year he's been on campus.

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Speaker 13: He's never looked to leave. He's never leveraged anybody. He's

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Speaker 13: what you want if you got the organization, whether it's

558
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Speaker 13: the NFL or college, He's the type of guy you

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Speaker 13: want leading organization. It's about the team, it's about you know,

560
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Speaker 13: the community. Uh, he's the best. So so you're gonna

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Speaker 13: love him. I think you're gonna be a big fan

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Speaker 13: when you get to spend some time. And that's the

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Speaker 13: other thing I want to I want to invite you. Yeah,

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Speaker 13: if you haven't been the Happy Valley in a while.

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Speaker 13: You talk about the ninty Lion in we redid it.

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Speaker 13: It's been gutted, it's brand new. You need to come.

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Speaker 13: You need to come for a game this year.

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Speaker 4: Check it out. It's a special place. We'd love to

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Speaker 4: have you do your show from Happy Valley. We'd love

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Speaker 4: to have you.

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Speaker 3: That's truly. You know, Ryan Day didn't offer me that yesterday.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 1: James Franklin's recruiting me, baby. That's how he gets all

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Speaker 1: those good players. It's great seeing you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, really appreciate the opportunity be on

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Speaker 4: the show.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noon Easter not a em Pacific.

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Speaker 1: I thought James Franklin had a very interesting comment if

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Speaker 1: you listen very closely, when he talked about Drew Aller

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Speaker 1: and he said he never tried to leave us, and

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Speaker 1: he never tried to leverage us. You know who else

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Speaker 1: could have done that and didn't Arch Manning. The one

584
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Speaker 1: quarterback whose dad stepped in and did that. Niko Iamaliava

585
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Speaker 1: went from Stack Tennessee to probably the ninth best team

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Speaker 1: in the Big ten uc doing his son an injustice Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's amazing. We've talked about this before. Dads are squeezing

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Speaker 1: so hard. Their intentions are good. Drew our No could

589
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Speaker 1: have made more money elsewhere. Arch Manning was playing backup.

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Speaker 1: He's more talented than Quin Yours easily. Quen Yours got

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Speaker 1: drafted in the seventh round. Arch is going in the first.

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Speaker 1: Dads didn't step in and leverage it. It's like I

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Speaker 1: always say about the G League. Do you watch the

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Speaker 1: NBA finals this year? How many great G leaguers were

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Speaker 1: in it? Really that one year of money is not

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Speaker 1: worth going to duke where all your games are on

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Speaker 1: television and you can leverage it into a much.

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Speaker 3: Better shoe deal. It's just amazing.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying Dad's intentions are bad, but the top

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Speaker 1: two quarterbacks in my opinion, in this draft could have

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Speaker 1: leveraged the school didn't. Don't think nflgms don't see that.

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Speaker 3: I've said it.

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Speaker 1: Quarterback Dad has become pageant mom. Intentions are good, outcomes

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Speaker 1: often aren't all right, Jay Mac, you know you always

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Speaker 1: do Tomorrow's Headlines Today on Friday.

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Speaker 3: Where you predict the future.

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Speaker 1: You're not the only guy on this show that can

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Speaker 1: predict outcomes and sports and entertainment go hand in hand.

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Speaker 1: So the recent NBA off season got me thinking about

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Speaker 1: sports and entertainment, and I have some upcoming attractions in

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Speaker 1: the NBA. First up, we have a new movie about

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Speaker 1: the Clippers, adding some seasoned veterans. The movie for the

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Speaker 1: Clippers is The bucket List. The league's oldest team has

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Speaker 1: one more thing to check off. The oldest team in

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Speaker 1: the NBA last year just got older. If they start

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul Harden, Kawhi Batouman Lopez, their starting lineup would

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Speaker 1: be thirty six and a half years old The bucket List.

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Speaker 1: Up next, the Nuggets new film could be a blockbuster.

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Speaker 3: We're calling it here you Go, Winners.

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Speaker 1: Better supporting cast allows Jokis to go from Joker to Jordans,

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Speaker 1: Bruce Brown, Cam Johnson, Tim Hardaway Junior.

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Speaker 3: Looks pretty good to me. Never played with an.

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Speaker 1: All Star, but this is a cast of depth and talent.

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Speaker 1: The Nuggets now have the third best championship title odds.

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Speaker 3: Next up, we have the Houston Rockets. They've gotten more star.

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Speaker 1: Power in their film and the movie in Houston will

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Speaker 1: be called Training Day. Hard Nos veterans brought in to

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Speaker 1: carry a younger cast. It's Kad Dorian Finney Smith one

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Speaker 1: of the league's best three and d guys Clint Capella.

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Speaker 1: Very young team bringing veterans in second best title. I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to watch Houston play by the Way.

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Speaker 8: Trading Days amazing, one of my favorite Denzel movies ever.

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Speaker 1: Now from the Warriors, a sequel that nobody asked for,

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Speaker 1: taken three.

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Speaker 3: We get it.

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Speaker 1: You took all his friends and now Steph has to

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Speaker 1: take all the threes. The only team that did not

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Speaker 1: make any moves in the offseason. Steph is thirty seven,

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Speaker 1: Draymond's thirty five, Buddy Healed is thirty two, Jimmy Butler

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Speaker 1: is thirty five. They have not advanced past the second

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Speaker 1: round since winning the top in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 3: And finally, the new movie coming out for your.

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Lakers, Lebron realizes in horror this team is

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Speaker 1: not his timeline get out. Marcus Smart and DeAndre Aiden

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Speaker 1: are the additions Lebron expected to retire after the season.

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Speaker 1: It's not even calling new Lakers get out coming to

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Speaker 1: an NBA season in Los Angeles near.

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Speaker 3: You, Jamon, That is excellent. Shout out major props for

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Speaker 3: that one.

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Speaker 8: By the way, get Out, great movie, and I mean,

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Speaker 8: you know, listen, Lebron get Out.

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 8: Well done, excellent five stars on that bad book.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: By the way, we have Drew Aller coming up last hour.

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Speaker 1: You know, it is funny though, when James Franklin came

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Speaker 1: on and it was just subtle about Drew Aller. Nobody

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Speaker 1: tried to leave, Nobody tried to use leverage. I tell

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Speaker 1: my kids this all the time.

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Speaker 3: Stop don't chase money, chase management, chase situations, chase environment.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. This is why I say quarterback dads become

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Speaker 1: pageant mom. All these quarterbacks bouncing around to get the

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Speaker 1: best deal. Now, in some instance there's like a coach

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Speaker 1: gets fired, or there's a new coach that doesn't want you,

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Speaker 1: like I understood, Like like bo Nick's going to Oregon,

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Speaker 1: Like the thing at Auburn felt like it ran out.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of changes in chaos. He goes to Oregon.

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Speaker 1: That's different. I'm not saying you can't change. I listen,

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Speaker 1: I've moved all over the country for jobs.

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Speaker 3: I get it. But Drew Aller and Arched.

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Speaker 1: Manning would have gotten more money leaving I mean, I

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Speaker 1: mean again, Texas has a lot of money, but they're

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Speaker 1: paying a lot of players.

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Speaker 4: But it's like.

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Speaker 1: I understood Caleb Williams going from Oklahoma to USC because

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Speaker 1: he was following an offensive coach.

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Speaker 3: It's like, I get that, that move. I get Lincoln

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Speaker 3: Riley is.

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Speaker 1: The best offensive coach at that time in college football arguably,

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Speaker 1: Like I get that when James Allen, James Franklin said

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Speaker 1: that it was very interesting, he didn't leverage. It's like

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Speaker 1: a cautionary tale. Nick Iamliava when he was at Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: A great program.

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Speaker 3: Nico is it? Nico? Yeah, he's very I like him.

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Speaker 3: He very draftable player. I like him a lot.

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Speaker 1: He's got a whip, he's a very good player. I'm

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Speaker 1: not against the kid at all. I hope he does well.

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Speaker 1: But Tennessee's got better offensive linemen, better receivers. It's just

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Speaker 1: a better football environment. You play against better athletes in

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Speaker 1: the SEC. I think in that schedule you have a

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Speaker 1: better home environment.

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Speaker 8: I mean, here's my only thing with with Drew. Where

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Speaker 8: was he gonna go? They got to the semifinals. It

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Speaker 8: was a super close game. They easily could have been

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Speaker 8: in a championship.

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Speaker 4: He had a bad game.

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Speaker 8: But if he actually took a second and looked at

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Speaker 8: his improvement colin completion percentage fifty nine percent two years ago,

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Speaker 8: sixty six last year, and he went from a dink

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Speaker 8: and dunk guy. Yards per attempt went from six point

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Speaker 8: eight to eight point four. So he is showing all

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Speaker 8: the signs. I just I mean, I like to dig

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Speaker 8: from Franklin. Clearly I shot at the SEC. I just

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Speaker 8: don't know where he could have gone, because you're right,

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Speaker 8: the arrow is really pointing up for this kid. I

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Speaker 8: don't know that there was a better landing spot for

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Speaker 8: I mean.

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Speaker 2: Could he have made three million more?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well, the Nico iam Maliova situation, I should take back

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Speaker 1: to be played against better teams. But Tennessee has better players,

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Speaker 1: So Nico Iamaliava at practice would play against Tennessee players.

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Speaker 1: I always said this, if you play at Georgia or

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Speaker 1: LSU or Ohio State, you go against those players in practice.

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Speaker 1: Like if you're sitting there and you're the quarterback for

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, dude, you're going against NFL first round corners.

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Speaker 1: That's the advantage of a quarterback going to play at

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Speaker 1: these big schools.

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Speaker 3: Practice.

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Speaker 1: You're getting the best coordinators, and like Tennessee program, they

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Speaker 1: pay their coaches double what they pay UCLA. They've got

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Speaker 1: twice as many NFL bodies now the SEC and depending

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Speaker 1: on your schedule, who plays against better players. But I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't if I was a quarterback, I would go to

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Speaker 1: Tennessee over UCLA. I would go to a big school

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Speaker 1: if I was offered, because just if nothing else, the

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Speaker 1: facilities and who I face in practice, I'm throwing two

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Speaker 1: more NFL level tight ends. So it feels more like

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Speaker 1: the NFL at Tennessee than it does ucl Let me

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Speaker 1: ask you.

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Speaker 8: So a year ago, at this time, everybody was talking

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Speaker 8: about Carson Beck, the quarterback at Georgia. Oh, he's gonna

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Speaker 8: be the Heisman, front runner, potential number one. Everybody loved him.

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Speaker 8: He clearly regressed, obviously losing Lad McConkie and brought the powers.

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Speaker 3: Went he went for money, well he did, but I.

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Speaker 8: Don't think he was gonna be the starter of Georgia.

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Speaker 8: He did, he got so much worse Colin maybe he

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Speaker 8: went to his head or whatever.

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Speaker 1: You could argue Carson Beck. So I I wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: gone from Georgia to Miami. But Ruiz the big booster

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Speaker 1: down in Miami paid him a fortune and maybe his takeaway,

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Speaker 1: I mean my takeaway as Carson Beck was overvalued, so

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Speaker 1: he may be in the right taking the money and

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Speaker 1: he Manning and Drew Aller are bigger, stronger, better quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: than Carson Beck. Carson Beck may just be one of

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Speaker 1: the and you see this a lot shandor Sanders. They're

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Speaker 1: just going to be really good at one level and

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Speaker 1: they're not really a top prof spect, like Carson Beck

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Speaker 1: is not a first or a second round NFL.

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Speaker 8: But well, like a year ago, at this time, everybody

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Speaker 8: was saying he was because he looks the part.

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Speaker 4: He's like a Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 8: He's like six', four, strapping big, dude huge.

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Speaker 4: Arm he's the prototypical.

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Speaker 8: Quarterback so everybody, thought, oh he's the next. Guy and

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Speaker 8: then he starts playing and it's like he ain't the.

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Speaker 8: DUDE i, think you, Know drew kind of falls into

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Speaker 8: that bucket At Penn.

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Speaker 3: State i'm telling you this is this quarterback draft. Class

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Speaker 3: if you need.

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Speaker 1: One cleveland's got two first round, Picks rams have two

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Speaker 1: first round. Picks New orleans is going to find out very.

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Speaker 1: Quickly you, know Spent rattler's not the. Answer i'm telling

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Speaker 1: you keep your eye Because ala And archmanning are going

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Speaker 1: to be. GOOD i think the kid At clemson really.

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Speaker 3: Good, yeah he is crazy. Productive now it is THE,

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Speaker 3: acc but that kid is.

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Speaker 1: Crazy he doesn't make any. Mistakes he's highly. Productive keep

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Speaker 1: your eye on Nuts meyer AT. LSU i need to see.

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Speaker 1: More i'm SORRY i do, too but but there's something.

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Speaker 1: There he's definitely AN nfl. Quarterback what, round but if

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Speaker 1: he moves into a first round, quarterback it is a

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Speaker 1: STACKED nfl quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Draft