WEBVTT - When Every Life Matters

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to all of you for being with us. Right

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<v Speaker 2>Cash Betel.

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<v Speaker 1>FBI authorities now have released videos and images and images

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<v Speaker 1>on videos that show a masked arm person at Nancy

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<v Speaker 1>Guthrie's doorstep the night she was abducted. This is now

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<v Speaker 1>what ten days in the first and real only significant

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<v Speaker 1>break in the search for the eighty four year old

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<v Speaker 1>mother of the Today's co host Today Show co hosts

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<v Speaker 1>Savannah Guthrie. Black and white images released by the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>depict a person wearing a ski mask, gloves, backpack what

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<v Speaker 1>appears to be a holstered handgun. Investigators say the person

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<v Speaker 1>sit in the images was armed. Authority said the images

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<v Speaker 1>showed the person tampering with the camera. It looks like

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<v Speaker 1>this person sees the camera, knows he's being videotaped, goes

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<v Speaker 1>and tries to, you know, pick flowers or something and

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<v Speaker 1>cover it up with that. He's wearing heavy gloves. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not they're not boxing gloves. Some people have said

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<v Speaker 1>to me that, and they're not. You can tell their

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<v Speaker 1>fingers on it. But the images now show the person

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<v Speaker 1>tampering with that camera next to the front door of

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<v Speaker 1>the house just north of Tucson. The strongest pieces of

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<v Speaker 1>evidence that in fact, she's been abducted, which has been

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<v Speaker 1>consistent with what everybody's believed from the beginning, especially the

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<v Speaker 1>blood on the front steps leading outside of that door,

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<v Speaker 1>and police have said that the doorbell camera was disconnected. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been talking at length about new investigative techniques that

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<v Speaker 1>they have, and I got to tell you got to

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<v Speaker 1>really handle the law enforcement because they've they've come so far.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it called celebrate and it is an ability

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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't even know existed, and that is, the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI is able to go in and even though somebody

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<v Speaker 1>might have erased text messages, even encrypted app messages, and

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<v Speaker 1>you think those things have gone forever, and let's say

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have a cloud on et cetera, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe it's a burner phone or whatever, they're able

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<v Speaker 1>to recover all of those messages because of this new technology.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, I got to give a shout out to a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of you people online, and I mean this with

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<v Speaker 1>all sincerity. Like, and I've said this before on the air,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you go online, if I want to

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<v Speaker 1>feel bad about myself, I'll just start reading about comments

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<v Speaker 1>about myself online.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, it goes with the territory.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can't believe that there are so many people

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<v Speaker 1>in this business that give opinions and they're shocked that

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<v Speaker 1>not everybody in the world agrees with them, and they

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<v Speaker 1>get offended that people take shots at them. I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of opening yourself up. It goes with the territory.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you can't handle the heat, get out of

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen. And Linda, we've joked about that quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are times I've said this many times that

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<v Speaker 1>I will see something, or Linda or Blair or Sweet

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<v Speaker 1>Baby James will see something and they'll send it to

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<v Speaker 1>me and it is wickedly funny, all at my expense,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it be a meme or a comment or something.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, the level of brilliance and creativity of

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<v Speaker 1>people online sometimes is beyond impressive. Linda, We've had many

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<v Speaker 1>times where we joked about and I laugh at like,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, if Colbert and Kimmel were actually funny and

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<v Speaker 1>when they go after conservatives, it would it'd be worth watching.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're just angry liberals. They're not funny, like I

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<v Speaker 1>think that Bill Mark funny. And he's also unpredictable, and

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<v Speaker 1>it'll take a position that maybe people wouldn't expect him

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<v Speaker 1>to take. He doesn't have a problem talking to people

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<v Speaker 1>that he disagrees with. Although if you go on a show,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's pretty much a stack deck that audience

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<v Speaker 1>hates conservatives and you're just dead on that show if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a conservative and you know who the heck needs

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<v Speaker 1>needs that abuse. But and the same with John Stewart.

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<v Speaker 1>John Stewart can be very, very funny. I think one

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<v Speaker 1>of the funniest bits ever done about me was by

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<v Speaker 1>John Stewart. And you know, at times he will take

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<v Speaker 1>a shot. Sometimes it's actually warranted. Sometimes that make a

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<v Speaker 1>good point. I'm like, yeah, that's true. I'm pretty partisan. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I do support this or that, whatever it happens to be.

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<v Speaker 1>But I only bring this up for this reason is

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've Linda, if you're seeing what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing. Somehow people are able to use these images,

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<v Speaker 1>these pictures reverse the lighting on it. Yeah, AI, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now I don't know one hundred perc that it's accurate

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<v Speaker 1>and true.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming it probably is. Though.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty interesting to see what they can do by

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<v Speaker 3>doing the reverse lighting and giving you the ability to

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<v Speaker 3>see that in color, you know, or something close to it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost like when they technicolored all the old black

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<v Speaker 3>and white movies and you're like, oh, wow, that's so cool.

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<v Speaker 3>It just enhances your ability to see it a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit more clearly.

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<v Speaker 2>It definitely does. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I've saw other analysis. Somebody that knows the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that figured out the width of the bricks in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the doorway leading to the front door of Nancy

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<v Speaker 1>Guthrie's house, and somebody you know, knew that particular brick

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<v Speaker 1>and with and height, et cetera, and they just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>did their own measurements and they think that this person

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<v Speaker 1>is five ten or five eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there are just some really really smart people

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, put their genius to work. And I

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<v Speaker 1>got to tip my hat to these people line they

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<v Speaker 1>often get criticized. There are crazy people online, and that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are people that are just viciously vile and

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<v Speaker 1>mean and horrible and toxic, and you know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't pay attention. You have to pick and choose what

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<v Speaker 1>you what you read, and what you watch and what

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<v Speaker 1>you listen to. But I'm finding that aspect of this

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<v Speaker 1>very very interesting. The good news is this is the

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<v Speaker 1>first break we've had in this case.

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<v Speaker 2>This is it.

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<v Speaker 1>It has been frustrating, you know, And I will say this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and occasionally people will complain, well, why why

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<v Speaker 1>are you covering this? Well? Why did we cover Richard

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<v Speaker 1>Jewel the way we did? Why did we cover Ducal

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<v Speaker 1>Cross the way we did? Why did we cover Ferguson

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<v Speaker 1>Missouri the way we did? Why did we cover George

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<v Speaker 1>Zimmerman and treymont Martin the way we did? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there are certain cases that kind of capture the attention

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<v Speaker 1>of the country. I made a broader point, and I

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<v Speaker 1>did get criticized for this, and I it was I

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<v Speaker 1>was sincere when I said on TV that this is

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<v Speaker 1>not a political statement. I don't want it to be

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<v Speaker 1>infirm to be political, but it's just a fact.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why I often talk about lives mattering. You

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<v Speaker 1>can see in this one case how much one person's

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<v Speaker 1>life matters, not only to one individual, Savannah Guthrie, but

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<v Speaker 1>also to her entire family, and how devastating it is

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<v Speaker 1>to one family to lose a loved one. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why it is frustrating to me. And again I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>being political here that for two decades I have been

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<v Speaker 1>scrolling names that nobody ever heard of, nobody ever thinks about,

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<v Speaker 1>of people that have been shot, shot and killed. Happens

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<v Speaker 1>every weekend in New York City, Chicago, whatever it happens

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<v Speaker 1>to be. And I couldn't believe that when Barack Obama

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<v Speaker 1>was president, during you know, his time in office for

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<v Speaker 1>eight years, he mentioned his home city of Chicago and

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<v Speaker 1>the violence there maybe three times. And why did he

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<v Speaker 1>not make it a priority are to bring law and

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<v Speaker 1>order and safety and security because those names are just

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<v Speaker 1>as important to the families of their loved ones as

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<v Speaker 1>in this particular case. It's not a political statement, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a fact. Is that if human life does matter,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe everybody, every human being, all of you

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<v Speaker 1>listening to my voice, were created by a God, a creator.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you have your own individual fingerprint, and that

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<v Speaker 1>God put within you talent and ability. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>hear about people young people in particular, and they're killed

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<v Speaker 1>in the prime of their life. It is tragic and

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<v Speaker 1>it needs to be paid attention to. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>had these ridiculous, absurd hearings on Capitol Hill today attacking

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<v Speaker 1>Ice and we'll get into the issue later in the program.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sitting there listening to people, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>Rodney Scott with the CBP, he's their commissioner, touting all

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<v Speaker 1>the accomplishments they have captured, hundreds of thousands of unvetted

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<v Speaker 1>Biden Harris illegals, unvetted alout in this country, and among

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<v Speaker 1>them known terrorists and murderers and rapists and child molesters

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<v Speaker 1>and drug dealers, cartel members, and they never get any

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<v Speaker 1>credit for it. And you know they have, they have

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<v Speaker 1>all these coordinated, well funded insurgencies trying to prevent legal

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement and laws of this country from being enforced.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Basheer wants to put his hat in the ring

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<v Speaker 1>and potentially be a Democratic presidential candidate for twenty twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>So he goes on the view. He knows his constituency,

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<v Speaker 1>he knows if he wants to get the nomination, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got to go hard, hard left, and he's not. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't sound at all like the conservative that he's always

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<v Speaker 1>tried to, you know, portray himself as.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just sad.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, even at one point, believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 1>you have this Congresswoman Lamonica mcgiver asking todd Lyons if

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<v Speaker 1>he thinks he's going to hell. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 1>how absurd this whole thing got, you know, or mister

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<v Speaker 1>feng Fang, Eric Swalwell, you know, asking if if todd

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<v Speaker 1>Lyons is going to apologize to the families of Renee

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<v Speaker 1>Good and Alex Pretty. In the Renee Good case, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's pretty cut and dry. She did accelerate her

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<v Speaker 1>car was in the direction of an ice agent. That

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<v Speaker 1>ice agent, by every objective measure, was hit and that

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<v Speaker 1>resulted in internal bleeding and injuries. And you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at that point when do people have become responsible? We

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<v Speaker 1>saw the tape ten days earlier, and I'll concede the

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<v Speaker 1>point to Alex Pretty's attorney that what happened ten days ago,

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<v Speaker 1>when when this guy was attacking and calling out and

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<v Speaker 1>cursing out and spitting out and kicking the tail light

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<v Speaker 1>off that car of law enforcement, I mean, it does

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<v Speaker 1>give you a glimpse into his mindset. It's separate and

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<v Speaker 1>apart from what happened that day, but he did go

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<v Speaker 1>to that protest. He was up close and personal to

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<v Speaker 1>those agents. Probably by that point he'd been at so

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<v Speaker 1>many of those things. I might guess, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he went to the ten days prior. He

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<v Speaker 1>might have even been known. But he was armed. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you, if you're a responsible gun owner,

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<v Speaker 1>I would advise you never to do that. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>again an untold story. But the bigger picture here is

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<v Speaker 1>you can see in this case why life matters. And

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes maybe it takes one case to remind us that

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<v Speaker 1>every life matters. And then you ask us, well, why

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<v Speaker 1>do some people why do we only hear about the

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<v Speaker 1>George Floyds. You know, Gianno Colwell's a friend of ours

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<v Speaker 1>on this program, and his brother was one of those

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<v Speaker 1>many names of a young man who nothing wrong, just

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<v Speaker 1>just hanging out and got shot and killed in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>And Giano's now is pretty much to change the trajectory

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<v Speaker 1>of his life, and he's dedicated his life to helping

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<v Speaker 1>to end crime in Chicago and stop it and bring

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<v Speaker 1>attention to it.

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<v Speaker 2>But all these people never pay attention to it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if it's not happening to you, what it's

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<v Speaker 1>not happening, it is happening, and it just does raise awareness.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm I'm all I am saying in this is

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<v Speaker 1>that every life does matter. And you know, I never

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<v Speaker 1>understood why Democrats wouldn't stand for the family of Lake

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<v Speaker 1>and Riley. I couldn't understand why they wouldn't stand for

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<v Speaker 1>the family of Joscelyn Nungary. I mean Lake and Riley,

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<v Speaker 1>nursing student brutally murdered on a jog. Poor Joscelyn Hungary,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve years old, brutally raped, and then you know, murdered

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<v Speaker 1>and thrown in a river. And you know, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think those families are ever going to be the same again?

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<v Speaker 2>They're not.

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<v Speaker 1>And at that point I just made a determination that

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<v Speaker 1>politics Trump's everything. Unfortunately for this modern Democratic Party, and

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<v Speaker 1>their hatred of Donald Trump guides that have their every

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<v Speaker 1>move because if you can't stand and honor those families

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<v Speaker 1>that lost everything, I mean, think about it, if you

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<v Speaker 1>lost a twelve year old daughter, if you lost a

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<v Speaker 1>nursing student daughter, you know, do you think you'd ever

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<v Speaker 1>be the same again? When we had Nancy Grace on

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<v Speaker 1>this program, and I part of me regrets asking her

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<v Speaker 1>how she got so engaged in crime and what she

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<v Speaker 1>had lived through and that was the murder of her

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<v Speaker 1>fiance and how it impacted her life, that also changed

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<v Speaker 1>the trajectory of her life and how to this day

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<v Speaker 1>she's not the same person she was before that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what families across this country. That's why restoring

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<v Speaker 1>law and order and bringing safety and security and getting

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<v Speaker 1>rid of criminals in this country and not defunding, dismantling

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<v Speaker 1>police and reimagining police and keeping people in jail. That

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<v Speaker 1>means you need bail laws. You know, that's why you

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<v Speaker 1>do need voter ID what Linda, you know, it matters.

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<v Speaker 1>And my prayer, my hope is is that they find

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy Guthrie. It just becomes the breakthrough that we've been

0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.560
<v Speaker 1>hoping for. In this case, it's ten days later. I

0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.800
<v Speaker 1>know she needs her medication badly. I am working under

0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:48.200
<v Speaker 1>the assumption she's alive and I'm going to stay there unless,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, God forbid we get bad news. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want bad news. We have enough violence and death in

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<v Speaker 1>this country will continue. Ay you're ready to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of the media spin room.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you've come to the right place.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the Sean Hannity Show.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you gotta sometimes just stop and pause and think.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I've been friends with Cash Patel and

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<v Speaker 1>Dam Bongino and Pam Bondy, and you know, I observe everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I try not to get into the intramural squabbles that

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<v Speaker 1>go on among conservatives because I think they've all lost

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<v Speaker 1>the plot by you know, shooting at each other instead

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<v Speaker 1>of focusing on the bigger picture, which is the left

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<v Speaker 1>in this country and their policies, I mean, the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want voter id really, they want to defund ice. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>they want to defund this mental no bail all of

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<v Speaker 1>this nonsense. And then of course they vote for the

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<v Speaker 1>largest tax increase in history. They don't stand up for

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<v Speaker 1>working men and women getting rid of taxes on tips

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<v Speaker 1>and overtime. They don't stand up for the elderly, no

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<v Speaker 1>tax on social security. You know, they think paying higher

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<v Speaker 1>gas prices is the price of democracy. And I just

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<v Speaker 1>think of this, and this is what I know has

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<v Speaker 1>frustrated Dan Bongino and Cash and Pam and they just

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<v Speaker 1>is this, you know, Republicans and conservatives and even people click,

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<v Speaker 1>I would argue, are conveniently maga, because if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at their history and the things that they've said in

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<v Speaker 1>every single case, they've been, you know, only conveniently maga.

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<v Speaker 1>But putting that aside, and I'm like, you guys lost

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<v Speaker 1>the plot because the left in the country, if they're

0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:08.960
<v Speaker 1>back in power, they will destroy the country. And while

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<v Speaker 1>we might have some differences, is more that should unite us.

0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, Reagan said, if we're eighty percent in agreement,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not my enemy, you're my friend, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes we need to remember that. All Right, we'll have

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<v Speaker 1>more on these new developments, images, videos of Nancy Guthrie's

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<v Speaker 1>abductor straight ahead, let me give you a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of background of foxnews dot com reporting federal agents arrived

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<v Speaker 1>in Tucson last week. And I've known this is going on,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've kind of stayed quiet about it. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>you can put together why I know. But the federal

0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:51.880
<v Speaker 1>agents did not exactly receive a warm welcome, and by

0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:55.080
<v Speaker 1>that I mean the FBI in this howering, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>search for Nancy Guthrie and he's abducted from this house

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<v Speaker 1>by force. They have no leads at all. It's from

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<v Speaker 1>her home and Catalina in the foothills in northern Tucson

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<v Speaker 1>around two thirty am and according to the Pima County Sheriff,

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement sources described a delay in local cooperation with

0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:22.920
<v Speaker 1>federal investigators. Now jurisdiction lies with local law enforcement. They

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<v Speaker 1>have to ask for help. President Trump very early on

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<v Speaker 1>said he's making available all federal resources, meaning law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 1>in the search for Nancy Guthrie. And so they were there,

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<v Speaker 1>willing able to help. And you know, it's sad because

0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:47.840
<v Speaker 1>it delayed the cooperation. Now, if you look at some

0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:53.679
<v Speaker 1>of the the techniques and the equipment that the FBI has,

0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:57.120
<v Speaker 1>it is you know, for example, like Celebrate, which has

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to take even messages that were erased not

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<v Speaker 1>on the cloud.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, and they're able to recover them.

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<v Speaker 1>This is probably how they were able to recover this

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<v Speaker 1>this video.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, what do you call it?

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<v Speaker 4>Ring?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you call it ring? Ring?

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<v Speaker 3>She has ring and she has nest.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it sounds to me and I'm guessing here, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I haven't seen an exact report on it,

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<v Speaker 1>that that's probably how they recovered all of this and

0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:33.679
<v Speaker 1>it probably happened to Quantico, would probably happened because of

0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:38.920
<v Speaker 1>FBI participation in this. And I don't understand. This happens

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<v Speaker 1>too often with law enforcement, and when it does happen,

0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:45.320
<v Speaker 1>it frustrates me to no end because you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>goal should be not who gets the credit, but just

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<v Speaker 1>get the job done. And you know, people should, you know,

0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:58.040
<v Speaker 1>want to cooperate with each other. There's a lot happening

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<v Speaker 1>too that I want to just tell you about. And

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<v Speaker 1>the first person that brought this up was last night.

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<v Speaker 1>This was Nancy Gray said, it's time and she's like

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<v Speaker 1>everybody in that family, everybody that knew Nancy Guthrie ought

0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:15.119
<v Speaker 1>to get you know, they ought to sit for a

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<v Speaker 1>light detector test.

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<v Speaker 2>She wasn't wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we have a report today that Nancy Guthrie's landscaper,

0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:26.000
<v Speaker 1>pool cleaner, other hired helper submitting swabs. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>now more than a week after the suspected abduction from

0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:31.800
<v Speaker 1>her home in Tucson. According to law enforcement sources, the

0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:35.520
<v Speaker 1>move likely means that DNA results have finally come back

0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:38.960
<v Speaker 1>from inside of the house. Last week, the Pima County

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff said at a news conference, DNA testing on evidence

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<v Speaker 1>outside the home, including the blood drops outside the front door,

0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:50.040
<v Speaker 1>came back to Guthrie. If you know, it's significant because

0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:52.760
<v Speaker 1>it reveals that maybe they did get some DNA from

0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:55.800
<v Speaker 1>inside the home, although if it's people that worked in

0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:58.919
<v Speaker 1>the home, that might not be unusual. But it's something

0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:02.119
<v Speaker 1>to go on looking, you know, at this point, the

0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:06.200
<v Speaker 1>look of everything they could possibly find. You know, the

0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:12.640
<v Speaker 1>latest is, you know that this ransom deadline number two

0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:17.160
<v Speaker 1>came and went, and we don't know for sure. They've

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<v Speaker 1>not said whether or not there was another bitcoin address. Now,

0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Harvey Levin of TMZ in the original note, he did

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<v Speaker 1>not get the other two notes that went to a

0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:29.120
<v Speaker 1>local news station in Tucson, but he does make it

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<v Speaker 1>he does have a good theory regarding that that he

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<v Speaker 1>thinks that in the original note they said that the

0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:39.760
<v Speaker 1>mother would be returned within nine hours, and if they

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<v Speaker 1>did pay the money, that period of time is long

0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:47.480
<v Speaker 1>since coming gone. And if you if you make a

0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:51.320
<v Speaker 1>radius of a nine hour drive that would also include

0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:54.760
<v Speaker 1>parts of Mexico. That's got to concern people too. I'm

0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:59.520
<v Speaker 1>sure law enforcement is thinking about that as well. The

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<v Speaker 1>reward is still in place, by the way, with the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI fifty thousand dollars and I'm not sure. I am

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<v Speaker 1>thinking based on the brilliant people in this country that

0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:18.120
<v Speaker 1>go online and we're able to use artificial intelligence reverse

0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:21.200
<v Speaker 1>the lighting, assuming that's real, and I think it is real, Linda,

0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure that's real. And you get a much

0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:27.560
<v Speaker 1>clearer picture of the guy. No, granted he has this

0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:30.320
<v Speaker 1>this full face ski mask on, but you do see

0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:35.040
<v Speaker 1>certain facial features. You get a much cleaner view of

0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:40.800
<v Speaker 1>the individual, a much cleaner view. So, now that we

0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:44.120
<v Speaker 1>have the video, and obviously this person was self conscious,

0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:46.159
<v Speaker 1>noticed that the camera was there, or knew that the

0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:49.280
<v Speaker 1>camera was there, I don't know. And then you know,

0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:52.399
<v Speaker 1>went and seemed to pick up, you know, dirt and

0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:56.480
<v Speaker 1>flowers and wanted to cover that camera pretty pretty desperately.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, security experts are saying the FBI is

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<v Speaker 1>best suited to handle this, and that's why it's frustrating

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<v Speaker 1>that and I knew this from the beginning that they

0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:07.359
<v Speaker 1>were kind of being pushed off to the side, and

0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:11.320
<v Speaker 1>the chief defended the investigation, say, critics haven't got a clue.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that the same guy that was at the basketball game? Linda,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'd be at a basketball game.

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<v Speaker 1>If I was in charge of a case like this,

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<v Speaker 1>would you be at a basketball game? I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I would be.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's a lot of things about this case

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<v Speaker 3>that are super weird. But you know, in looking at

0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:29.399
<v Speaker 3>the comments online, you know, one of the things that

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<v Speaker 3>I was talking about with the team, and that's really troubling,

0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 3>is there's a lot of people missing right now. A

0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:37.399
<v Speaker 3>lot of them are kids. And obviously this is a celebrity,

0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:40.600
<v Speaker 3>so it gets celebrity attention, it gets federal reinforcement. We

0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 3>got senators involved, we got the President involved. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>girl in the same area in Tucson. She's like, I

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:49.359
<v Speaker 3>think she's seventeen or eighteen years old. She's been missing

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 3>since the middle of January. Nobody's doing anything for her,

0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:55.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, just a little kid. Haven't seen her in

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a month. And I think that's the thing

0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:00.560
<v Speaker 3>that average Americans are struggling with. Well, my heart goes

0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:06.119
<v Speaker 3>out to the Guthrie family and any family whose mother's son, uncle, cousin, brother, aunt,

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 3>friend has been kidnapped and is missing. It's heartbreaking. But

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:13.600
<v Speaker 3>the amount of coverage that we are seeing on this.

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 3>It's heartbreaking that we can't do this kind of investigation

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:21.120
<v Speaker 3>for everybody. It's really sad. But I will say it's

0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:23.359
<v Speaker 3>awesome to see what you said. These people coming out

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:26.680
<v Speaker 3>online doing what they're doing. It's their ability to pick

0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:29.439
<v Speaker 3>up little things and things you don't see, and I

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<v Speaker 3>love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I love their genius and if they make fun of

0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:36.920
<v Speaker 1>me sometimes. I love when they're really funny. I really do.

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:39.560
<v Speaker 1>And I love what their ability to do all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you've seen all the AI generated videos of

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<v Speaker 1>a wedding of mind that never took place.

0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's hilarious. I find that it.

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<v Speaker 3>Tux was great though, you looked fantastic.

0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 2>I'd look fantastic.

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:57.119
<v Speaker 3>Your AI version of you was looking very sharp on

0:24:57.160 --> 0:24:59.000
<v Speaker 3>your fake wedding day, So kudos.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I just think it's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Me crying though, that one pissed me off because I

0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:07.240
<v Speaker 1>don't cry.

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:10.119
<v Speaker 3>But the twins, the twins looked very healthy at birth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the twins.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't believe what you read online, guys, especially with AI

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<v Speaker 3>is scary.

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<v Speaker 1>The worst part is is some of my closest friends

0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:20.960
<v Speaker 1>see it, like on Facebook.

0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:22.920
<v Speaker 2>I got so social media messages.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, well, you didn't have to invite me, but

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:28.520
<v Speaker 1>you could have at least told me, oh my, oh

0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:31.680
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, what's wrong with you. We've been friends forever,

0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 1>You've read every horrible thing about me in the world.

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I do think that there are things that we should

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:42.480
<v Speaker 1>pay attention to. There's a former SWAT team captain. His

0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:46.600
<v Speaker 1>name is Josh Schirard. He was interviewed by the Daily

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Mail and you know, again, this gets very complicated in

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 1>terms of what's the right thing to do or the

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 1>wrong thing to do, in terms of if if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not able to communicate with the people that you believe

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:05.960
<v Speaker 1>have your loved one and they don't show proof of life,

0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 1>then it becomes, you know, a little more dicey. The

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:11.239
<v Speaker 1>fact that this was a kind of suff Look what

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing in this video is somebody that this is

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 1>a premeditated crime and with a lot of thought and

0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:22.359
<v Speaker 1>sophistication behind the bitcoin ploy Because as soon as you

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 1>have a bitcoin address, if that money was ever sent,

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:28.280
<v Speaker 1>now we know it wasn't sent to the original address,

0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 1>but another address could be set up, another account could

0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:33.160
<v Speaker 1>be set up. In ten minutes, It's not that hard

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:39.159
<v Speaker 1>to do anybody that has had any cryptocurrency, But with

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 1>no direct line established between the Guthrie family, it's a

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:50.440
<v Speaker 1>much harder call. Veteran FBI special agent Lands Lessing of

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona suggested that the fact that the notes were sent

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<v Speaker 1>to media outlets rather than negotiators or family members, that

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<v Speaker 1>that's a red flag to him, and his analysis was,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a legitimate if it's in a legitimate ransom case.

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<v Speaker 1>Kidnappers move fast, They established leverage quickly, communication begins within hours,

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<v Speaker 1>not days, of an abduction. Proof of life is produced

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<v Speaker 1>early and often, and this case has not followed the

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<v Speaker 1>history of a typical kidnapping at all. Now, another thing

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<v Speaker 1>is ninety percent of the time these are just the odds.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not casting aspersions and we don't rush to judgment,

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<v Speaker 1>but ninety percent of abductions do involve someone that the

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<v Speaker 1>abducted person knows, and a lot of times, unfortunately that's

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<v Speaker 1>family or someone very very close to the family, or

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<v Speaker 1>in the case of Elizabeth Smart, somebody that worked at

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<v Speaker 1>the family home that the father was doing a favor

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<v Speaker 1>for so And another thing, we don't know everything that

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement knows, and that's why I.

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<v Speaker 3>Signed to that point. Josh Cherart is actually a friend

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<v Speaker 3>of our show. He's the director of law enforcement for Berner,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's a thirty year SWAT officer, and the one

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<v Speaker 3>thing that he's been talking a lot about is how

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<v Speaker 3>the elderly are easy prey and Berne is doing a

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<v Speaker 3>whole thing on helping the elderly and getting them armed

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<v Speaker 3>and teaching them self defense, because it's not just like

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<v Speaker 3>women or children, it's there's a whole other class of

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<v Speaker 3>people that are being preyed upon. Hence this case.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I hope people see to your point earlier that

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<v Speaker 1>you you ask a very legitimate question. Young girl's been

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<v Speaker 1>missing for a long time in the same area and

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<v Speaker 1>nobody knows their name. That's a problem. That all the

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:41.479
<v Speaker 1>people shot shot and killed every weekend in Chicago. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been talking about it for decades. I've scrolled their names

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<v Speaker 1>for decades. That's a problem. You know all these you

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<v Speaker 1>know Lake and Riley's family, Rachel Morin's family, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all those lives matter. And maybe as a result of this,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe people will take you know the fact that we

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<v Speaker 1>need law and order and not defund dismantle NOBIL, and

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<v Speaker 1>we need to fund the ice not defund ice, and

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<v Speaker 1>that we need voter ID and things like that. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>people's perspectives will change a little bit. And again I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not really trying to be political here, it's just common sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Doug in Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 2>Doug, how are you.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing good, Sean. I just wanted to tell you

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<v Speaker 5>thank you for all you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Without thank you, sir.

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<v Speaker 5>We wouldn't get a lot of the information we do.

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<v Speaker 5>But I want to be the bad guy for you.

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<v Speaker 5>I know you don't want to, and I completely understand.

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<v Speaker 5>And let me say that I hope and I pray

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<v Speaker 5>that this idea that I am thinking on is completely wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>But let's look at it from the eyes of the

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<v Speaker 5>kidnapper himself. And I don't think anybody has really done

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<v Speaker 5>that if you were the kidnapper now, and let's go

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<v Speaker 5>on the presumption that the the brandom was a ransom

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<v Speaker 5>was not paid yesterday, Being that as it would look

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<v Speaker 5>to the kidnapper, they don't know who you are. They

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<v Speaker 5>haven't been able to trace your email. It almost seems

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<v Speaker 5>like you wouldn't want to be making any more contact

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<v Speaker 5>than you had to because you're exposing yourself. What is

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<v Speaker 5>the chances there that they have already taken her life,

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<v Speaker 5>gotten rid of her body, and we're never going to

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<v Speaker 5>hear from the kidnapper or see her mother's or you know,

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<v Speaker 5>retrieve the remains. I pray to God that doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 5>But if you look at it through the eyes of

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<v Speaker 5>the kidnapper, that would seem to be a viable option

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<v Speaker 5>for them. And I pray that I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I pray you're wrong too. It's certainly something that is real.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to sit here and put my head

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<v Speaker 1>in a send. Doug, appreciate it. I know where you're

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<v Speaker 1>coming from. Americans have a heart. Americans are good people,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, quickly, Susan Arizona. Hey, Susan John.

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<v Speaker 4>I just wanted to comment on the sheriff who went

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<v Speaker 4>to the University of Arizona game basketball game instead of

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<v Speaker 4>being at work or whatever. And my husband and I

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<v Speaker 4>are both former law enforcements. I was a federal agent,

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<v Speaker 4>he's a Phoenix cop, and we we're total opposites on that.

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<v Speaker 4>He thinks he's kind of like, oh, give him a break.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody needs a rest. And I said, I said, the

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<v Speaker 4>reason that I think it's terrible is because when something

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<v Speaker 4>like that happens, whether you're FBI or cops or whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>sheriff's deputies, it's all hands on deck. And if I,

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<v Speaker 4>as just a regular agent, had tickets to a game

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<v Speaker 4>and said, hey, I really need to go to this game.

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<v Speaker 4>I have the tickets, they were just tough, just tough,

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<v Speaker 4>and so as a leader, I think you have to

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<v Speaker 4>lead by example. So I just thought it was interesting

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<v Speaker 4>that the both of us buried so deep.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it gets me, Matt, like, if my kids

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<v Speaker 1>take off a day from work, they better give me

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<v Speaker 1>a good reason or I get pissed. I'm like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like one day last week, I got a tooth pulled on

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<v Speaker 1>a root canal. On the same day, I still did

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<v Speaker 1>radio and TV. I like to show up for work,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean, Linda takes off all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's infuriating.

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<v Speaker 3>That's me footloose and fancy free.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's teasing. Eight hundred and nine point one, Sean.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to be a part of the program,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we'll continue.

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<v Speaker 5>By the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Nicole Parker on the other side, also will check in

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<v Speaker 1>with Jason Pack, retired FBI Supervisory Special Agent