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Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's still live on a reaction Monday edition

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Speaker 2: of Cleveland Brown's Daily. I am merely Bo.

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Speaker 3: He is the great Z.

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Speaker 2: I got a I gotta tell you one of Yeah,

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Speaker 2: put that hat on, will you all right? Or there's fine.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you that probably on a short

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Speaker 2: list of the best offensive game plans I've seen in

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Speaker 2: five to ten years, was orchestrated by the Naval Academy.

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Speaker 2: That's right on Saturday. That is a game that is

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Speaker 2: usually one. Oh they did. Turns out they played.

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Speaker 4: The twenty second ranked Army.

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Speaker 2: Team Brian Newberry and that Naval Academy operation Blake Corvath,

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Speaker 2: good Columbus kid at quarterback. Two hundred yards rushing in

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Speaker 2: that game. That game is usually pretty straightforward, right, it

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Speaker 2: really is. It's a yard, it's three yards. It's kind

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Speaker 2: of what it is. It was a bag of tricks

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Speaker 2: for Navy.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say, you not only offensive game plan,

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Speaker 5: but we'd have to include special teams all as well.

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Speaker 4: When you are running with that guy the defensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: I know, awesome, unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really great pageantry.

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Speaker 2: I love them both. Actually had Bryson daily the coach

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Speaker 2: or the quarterback at the Army. I had him third

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Speaker 2: on my heisman ballot. I had especially end up being

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Speaker 2: I went Hunter Hunter genty and then Bryson was third.

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Speaker 2: Pretty kind of a wash between Ward and Dylan Gabriel

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Speaker 2: and just a historic season at West Point and he

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Speaker 2: was awesome throughout the whole year. He'd not particularly play

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Speaker 2: well in this game as a quarterback for Navy did

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Speaker 2: but that was that was fun.

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Speaker 5: It was great weekend. We had our friend, my great friend,

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Speaker 5: Dabo was in town.

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Speaker 3: Dabo was here.

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Speaker 2: Was he did you in from Brisbane?

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Speaker 5: In from Australia with he's Brisbane right, yeah, with Amity

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Speaker 5: and and the twin boys. They have twenty month old

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Speaker 5: twins and they brought a nanny and then his niece

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Speaker 5: to obviously help with the whole operation. But they're all

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Speaker 5: in New York and he flew into Cleveland's Saturday to

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Speaker 5: come to the Chiefs game.

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Speaker 2: And we put on a show.

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Speaker 4: So the night before we watched some army Navy we had.

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Speaker 3: You had him over. Oh yeah, he stayed over. What Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: He stayed over. We had the Fools of Garth steakhouse experience.

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Speaker 5: We had some great wines, we had great, great night.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And then he came with me early in the morning

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Speaker 5: to the to the game, got him credentialed up and

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Speaker 5: he was walking around with me on the field pregame

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Speaker 5: watch maybe all my stuff. Came and checked out the Boossaws,

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Speaker 5: his mates Gibbey and Gibbe Clay and Tequila Felix because

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Speaker 5: he woud partied with.

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Speaker 3: Us in l a.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's right, I remember.

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Speaker 4: And then his boys.

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Speaker 5: He was with his three other with Fallon and Slater

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Speaker 5: and his Australian brothers. Yeah, we had some great expressions

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Speaker 5: last night. Not one word of a lie. That's a

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Speaker 5: great one. Now, if I'm gonna tell you this, not

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Speaker 5: one word of a lie, and then not one not

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Speaker 5: one word of a lie, and then you tell you

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Speaker 5: say what you're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Say, not one word of a word of a lie.

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Speaker 5: I like that A lot of I reckon, I reckon.

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Speaker 5: I wish mate took off more mates right here. Mate's

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Speaker 5: really good bloke bloke bloke.

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Speaker 2: Things tougher here. Yeah, if you miss hear it.

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Speaker 5: I guess yeah kind of yeah, yeah, uh yeah, I

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Speaker 5: like a lot. If somebody's like they're all grogged up on.

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Speaker 2: The not one not one word of a lie, that's

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Speaker 3: That's back.

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Speaker 2: There was a time when people would say, uh, can

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Speaker 2: I be honest with you? Yeah, and my comeback to

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Speaker 2: that would be, are there are you lying the rest

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Speaker 2: of the time?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Is this the first honest words you spoken? And became

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Speaker 5: This evokes the same keep lying there's not one word

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Speaker 5: of a lie. Then we have to be on alert

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Speaker 5: the other times all the rest. So he pre aim

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Speaker 5: which was great, and then I saw Kelsey and I'd

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Speaker 5: met Travis a few times before, and obviously he golfed

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Speaker 5: this year with the Miz at the celebrity event, the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah it was.

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Speaker 5: It was the threesome was miss Jason and Travis.

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Speaker 4: They had the best time together. So I went out there,

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 5: You know, he was like around the forty yard line

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Speaker 5: just kind of he was just chilling and I walked

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Speaker 5: oh yeah, goo to see you again and talk about

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Speaker 5: the miss blah blah blah blah. And then the next thing,

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Speaker 5: I know, not one word of a lie. Damo's like,

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Speaker 5: good a mate, I'm here from Australia. I'm a huge

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Speaker 5: fan of yours. I listened to the podcast and Kelsey's like,

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Speaker 5: Kelsey's like really and he's like yeah, and he's like

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Speaker 5: that's amazing. He goes, I love it down Under and

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Speaker 5: then Dabo was like over the moon, loved it.

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Speaker 4: So we're in the car, He's like calling everybody.

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Speaker 5: He's like, not one word of a lie, mate, I was.

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Speaker 5: I was shaking hands with Travis Kelsey on the field pregame.

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Speaker 5: I was like, Dabo, your legend that is it's pretty

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Speaker 5: good again, It's pretty gooz. He's like, it was like,

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Speaker 5: pinch me, pinch me, this is real.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, did is there a moment when you are

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Speaker 2: and you know, because of what you do, especially with now,

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Speaker 2: you know, every Sunday you're around the greatest players in

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Speaker 2: the world and my homes is out there, like you

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Speaker 2: get used to that. Is there a moment when you

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Speaker 2: walk up to Kelsey or even afterwards and he's going

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Speaker 2: to be a gold jacket He's a first ballot for

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Speaker 2: it's a great Shiaving tight end ever yeah period. He's

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Speaker 2: also dating the most famous woman on the planet. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so there's that dynamic too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, now he could have been nicer.

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Speaker 5: He recognized me, yeah, which was I was pleased with

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Speaker 5: and he was like super nice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've unk like.

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Speaker 2: He's always done, like the home run derbys and all

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Speaker 5: There was one night after a Calves playoff game that

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Speaker 5: I ended up in the back room at the Barley House.

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Speaker 5: Miz was in town with Miz sitting at a table

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Speaker 5: that was with the Mizz and Rick Flair, Kelsey and

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Speaker 5: then Shaq was also there that night walking around who

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Speaker 5: is still I just can't believe how big he is,

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Speaker 5: Like it's hard to get your head.

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Speaker 4: Around how just ginormous of a man is.

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Speaker 3: But I was just like this is this is not so? Yeah.

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Speaker 5: We had that one night where I actually got to

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Speaker 5: spend some actually talk to Kelsey for a little bit

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Speaker 5: but with it was any one of these does not

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm the one. Ms Rick Flair and Kelsey.

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Speaker 2: That was great, that's great, That's very good. Jade is

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Speaker 2: saying that we are top blokes. Not one word of

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Speaker 2: a lie. Mate.

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Speaker 4: Well, she would just ride his rain she would know

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Speaker 4: how to do it.

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Speaker 3: What are we doing here?

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Speaker 2: Do you want to do this? Hot Top is Day

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns twenty one to seven.

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Speaker 3: We dropped a three and eleven on the season.

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Speaker 4: Sir, not good, I mean not good.

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Speaker 5: We've we lead the league in turnovers over the last

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Speaker 5: seven games by a wide Marge. I'm pretty sure we

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Speaker 5: have nineteen turnovers in the last seven games. We had

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Speaker 5: eight in the first seven games.

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Speaker 2: I heard, I heard on the radio broadcast which I

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Speaker 2: was listening to post early games with Bootsy and pre

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Speaker 2: late game with Beamsy, that quarterback alone was nine in the.

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Speaker 5: Last three Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's you know, that's

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Speaker 5: not a way to win football games, unfortunately. I mean,

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Speaker 5: here's the crazy thing about it is the Kansas City

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Speaker 5: Chiefs came into this game and it was one of

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Speaker 5: my favorite stats. Before the game, there were five teams

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Speaker 5: in the NFL that had only ten takeaways ten or

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Speaker 5: fewer on the season.

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Speaker 4: The Chiefs were twelve and one.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 5: The other four teams on that list were a combined

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Speaker 5: ten and forty two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you can, so you don't win, you don't.

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Speaker 5: And they had a negative turnover differential, the only team

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Speaker 5: six Raiders, to have a negative turnover differential. And then

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Speaker 5: in one game they went from having ten in thirteen

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Speaker 4: Plus two in one game. And you know, it was

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Speaker 4: just hard, hard to watch.

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Speaker 5: I mean the Browns offense, and I'll say this if

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Speaker 5: you want to say, okay, find me some some positive

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Speaker 5: things to talk about. The Browns defense seven to three

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Speaker 5: first five possessions of the game for the Chiefs. Who

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Speaker 5: and then you know, obviously first three and out in

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Speaker 5: I mean, the second week in a row we've done

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Speaker 5: that that leads to a short field touchdown. But their

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Speaker 5: other four possessions were three for seven, three for nine,

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Speaker 5: just ridiculous. I guess there were six three and outs.

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Speaker 5: There was one four and out. So honestly, I didn't

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Speaker 5: think it was that bad. It turned the ball over

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Speaker 5: six times against the defending two extraordinary and to lose

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Speaker 5: twenty one to seven is now the defense was extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: And like I didn't expect to win this game. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Kansas City was twelve and one. I didn't anticipate that

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Speaker 2: being the case, and I thought the defense did more

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Speaker 2: than enough. Now I would say that.

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Speaker 4: They had one drive of over fifty yards in the

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Speaker 2: That's there is something off between Patrick Mahomes and his receivers.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen him miss deep balls the way he did,

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Speaker 2: especially in the first half of this game and the like.

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Speaker 2: There were guys that had a step and he just

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Speaker 2: missed him. There was the one he had the guy

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Speaker 2: on the crosser was that in the first half.

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Speaker 5: There were two that he threw deep that it like

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Speaker 5: one of them Kelsey was the one that he threw

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Speaker 5: in the end zone where he would just threw it wildly. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Kelsey was at R twenty and he would he might

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Speaker 5: have scored. I mean there was no nobody near him,

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Speaker 5: and he just stood there like this after the play.

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Speaker 3: It's open could have been.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird, Like I don't know what's going on

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Speaker 2: down the field. I don't know if he's frustrated that

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Speaker 4: And he obviously he lit us up. He was great

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Speaker 5: But I remember watching him, I'm like, every ball is perfect,

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Speaker 4: That's kind of the way, just.

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Speaker 5: The thing that I was disappointed from a fan standpoint,

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Speaker 5: all time the Chiefs all time leader in touchdown receptions. Okay,

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Speaker 5: and if he had done that, not only would he

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Speaker 3: And I think he.

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Speaker 5: Wanted to do that in Cleveland, and it felt like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we've listen the offensive side. Jamis has

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Speaker 5: I think he went this into this stretch that we had.

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Speaker 5: last play of the second drive of the game, which

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Speaker 5: I won't count kneeling at the end of the half.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that's fair. Three six, ten, eleven twelve

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Speaker 2: The Holmes is inaccuracy in our defense were kind of

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the thing that like everything that Kevin's

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Speaker 2: this and the third this. We do a little wrinkle

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Speaker 2: All of those type of things, there's none of that. Now.

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Speaker 2: We are a wildly in disciplined team. We are incredibly

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Speaker 2: turnover prone. I don't even know what you hang your

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Speaker 2: we do jo feed him fourteen times. I mean, he's well,

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Speaker 3: Just think about this.

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Speaker 5: We threw thirty four We threw thirty four passes. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: completions for one hundred and eight yards. The other twenty

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So what do we do all on offense? Jerry Judy,

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Speaker 5: McDuffie knocked it away. Jerry Judy had won on a

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Speaker 3: Just throw it out there. It would have been a touchdown.

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Speaker 5: Obviously you missed, you know, David Njoku, and he missed

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Speaker 5: what he is. But you know, unfortunately, fortunately and unfortunately

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Speaker 5: Jamis has has unfortunately been basically what he's been for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it improved our offensive line play

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Speaker 2: to know that a quarterback was going to be where

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: No, And that's why I mean, I don't take back

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Speaker 2: Like he's fun, his teammates like him. He throws it,

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Speaker 2: he makes you defend every blade of grass. He gives

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Speaker 2: that's living. This wasn't that at all. And this was

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Speaker 2: you really would just like this done. That's where we're

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm curiousy again, some of the young guys

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Speaker 5: I thought Cam Mitchell played well. I thought Miles Harden

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Speaker 4: We get a pre snap procedure penalty. We lead the

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Speaker 2: See, that's not what stefancise teams have been, and that's

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Speaker 3: No, and it's it's that we lead the league.

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Speaker 5: It's the most that anybody's had, most pre snap procedural

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Speaker 5: that's a tough situation. They're not to excuse it was

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Speaker 4: They know you're throwing. You have to throw it in,

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Speaker 5: a couple of games, and if it's bad, then I'd

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Speaker 5: say give Bailey Zappi a look.

442
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,120
Speaker 2: I don't give him a game.

443
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 3: Give Zapi a game. They got three left, give him.

444
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 2: All a game. I mean, like, let him play.

445
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's yeah, no at this point, you know the

446
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 5: one you're looking for bright spots. We talked about the defense,

447
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 5: talked about the young guys. I think Isaiah McGuire and

448
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 5: Mike Hall are making cases, and I know it's limited

449
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 5: in the same size of my call, it's not as

450
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Speaker 5: limited with Isaiah McGuire anymore.

451
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Speaker 3: That like Isaiah McGuire, you.

452
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 5: Can, I think pencil him in as your starter oppos

453
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Speaker 5: at Miles Garrett next year.

454
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Speaker 4: Like I think he's playing unless the drugs he's that good.

455
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, but I.

456
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Speaker 5: Don't know that you maybe you have him, you've got

457
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Speaker 5: Alex Wright coming back, and you have oh Bo. That's

458
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 5: still not a bad ye a right that defense, that's

459
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Speaker 5: that would be one of the rooms with the least

460
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Speaker 5: amount of concerns had it into next year. Yeah, for

461
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 5: your for your team, but obviously if there's a stud

462
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Speaker 5: you go, you go get a superstar. But you know,

463
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:16,679
Speaker 5: your punter has been great. Borcaz has been awesome. You know,

464
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Speaker 5: I'll tell you something else and I could. I was

465
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 5: I was watching in between driving. I obviously had dv

466
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Speaker 5: art it and I watched it, you know, most of

467
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 5: the second all the way to the like midway through

468
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,719
Speaker 5: the fourth, I watched and from the and I understand

469
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Speaker 5: they're not giving you a full stadium, but it seemed

470
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Speaker 5: like the crowd was pretty good.

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Speaker 3: The crowd was for garbage Day.

472
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good.

473
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it did stop raining. There's a stretch, but then

474
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 2: it came back pretty good.

475
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

476
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, in the morning it was like Groppel and

477
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 2: then it turned to stop and then it rained from

478
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 2: there on out. But I mean that to go down

479
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 2: there and and do it, God bless you because it's tough.

480
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 2: It's tough, and that that was a that's a tough performance.

481
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: You mentioned the Nick foot injury. It's just God almighty

482
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: man like, and it seems like it's as good a

483
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: news as you can get on a broken foot. Might

484
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,479
Speaker 2: not have to have surgery, those type of things. But

485
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 2: it's it just sucks that that Nick's gonna have that

486
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 2: has to deal with anything from an injury standpoint after

487
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Speaker 2: what he went through last year.

488
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's frustrating. I think again, the the good news

489
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 5: is that it you know, allows him more time to

490
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Speaker 5: get everything right. It should not have any lingering effects,

491
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Speaker 5: and it will allow him to, you know, I think,

492
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Speaker 5: really come back in next year ready to roll, which

493
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 5: is which is good. And I think we always talked

494
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 5: about the twenty twenty five season with Nick Chubb is

495
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 5: going to be. That's what we're going to see where

496
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 5: he is relative to Nick Chubb, you know what I mean,

497
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 5: relative to the standard of incredible excellence that he set

498
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 5: for the Browns with the four straight thousand yard seasons,

499
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 5: five yards to carry every season, the four straight Pro Bowls,

500
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Speaker 5: all of it. Well, what percentage of that Nick Chubb

501
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 5: will we be able to get back? And hopefully it's

502
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Speaker 5: a high percentage and this won't deter that. I mean,

503
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 5: you know, I know the questions were asked today and

504
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,719
Speaker 5: we'll here's the Fancies press conference later on, but you know,

505
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 5: why would he.

506
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 4: Why didn't you shut him down?

507
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 5: Like the guy didn't rehab and work that hard to

508
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 5: get to come out and do what he wanted to

509
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 5: play football to just be like, yeah, we're.

510
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 3: Not gonna let you play football.

511
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 2: No, of course, not no.

512
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Speaker 4: And it seemed like a pretty freak thing, honestly.

513
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 6: Yeah.

514
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 2: And like when he get the foot injury.

515
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, if it's from the clip that everybody's

516
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 5: showing where he just is walking forward.

517
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, Well that's what I guess in my head.

518
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 2: And I'm not doctor brus won't pretend to be. But

519
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: when you work to rehab something as hard as he does,

520
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 2: you do wonder if other things become stressed. Yeah, And

521
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 2: that's just kind of a common sense thing, and that

522
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 2: that's what I thought when I heard the diagnosis of

523
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 2: it all.

524
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Speaker 3: So there you go.

525
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 2: It's you got three left, you're at Cincinnati this week,

526
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 2: and then you got the that's not going to be

527
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 2: Sunday night football, right, that'll be flexed out. I know

528
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 2: it's not official, but like that's going to be flexed

529
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 2: out US against the Dolphins here.

530
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 3: We should know.

531
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Speaker 7: Tomorrow, okay, Yeah, I mean it just commsates this moving Yeah,

532
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 7: that that game would be moved on Sunday night.

533
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: Football. By the way, we have the Ravens well to

534
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 2: close it all out in Baltimore.

535
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 5: We moved from Fox to CBS for this week. By

536
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 5: the way, I don't know if you saw that gimbe

537
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 5: for Cincinnati.

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00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: Uh huh, So we're to CBS.

539
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 4: So now we're a CBS game.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I can tell you we've had a

541
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Speaker 7: couple of luminaries on the TV side that have been

542
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 7: in the broadcast booth the last two weeks that are

543
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 7: none too pleased with how the league is handling TV assignments.

544
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 5: Let me tell you something right now, I'm looking at

545
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 5: this schedule. They made a mistake taking the Broncos Chargers

546
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 5: off of Sunday. Our game still would have gotten tons

547
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 5: of views on Thursday. Yeah, not have been a problem,

548
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 5: and it would have been probably a fun game.

549
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 4: Fun game.

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00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 5: Broncos Chargers is the best game on Sunday because Houston

551
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Speaker 5: Texans Chiefs, Steelers Ravens are Saturday.

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Speaker 2: That was goodel sticking it to college football.

553
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 4: Listen to your Sunday lineup.

554
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 7: By the way, that Steelers Ravens games on Fox, not

555
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 7: CBS Fox, and.

556
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: It is because if the other one's on NBCNBC If

557
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 2: the Steelers win, they win the division.

558
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 5: Sunday, December twenty second, Giants at Falcons, Cards at Panthers,

559
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 5: Lions at Bears.

560
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 2: That's probably your best.

561
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 5: Browns at Bengals, Titans at Colts, Rams at Jets, Eagles

562
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 5: at Commanders. That's the best game of the weekends.

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00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 8: Commies.

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00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's too playoff team, yeah for sure. And

565
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: that's at one, so that could go to Sunday Night

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Speaker 2: Commy's Eagles.

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Speaker 4: No that this is the This isn't all the weekend before. Oh,

568
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Speaker 4: this is this is this weekend, this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Nothing can move this week.

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Speaker 5: Oh, this is for this everything I thought you were

571
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Speaker 5: talking about following. No, okay, I'm saying this weekend, this weekend.

572
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 5: So the best game on and that's a Fox game

573
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 5: is Eagles Washington four oh five Viking Seahawks, which is

574
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 5: probably nextos, but that's a.

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Speaker 3: Four oh five.

576
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 5: Your four to twenty five options are Patriots, Bills, Oh

577
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 5: my gosh, Jags, Raiders, Niners, Dolphins, Wow, and Sunday Night

578
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 5: Football's Bucks, Cowboys, Monday Night Football Saints.

579
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 2: Packers, Oh my gosh, just take it off. So Goodell,

580
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: what Goodell did to stick it to college football is

581
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Speaker 2: he took two of his two of his three best

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Speaker 2: games from Sunday and played him Saturday to win head

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Speaker 2: to head against college football. That's what he did.

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Speaker 5: They Yeah, but they just should have kept Brown's Bengals

585
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 5: at eight fifteen on Thursday night.

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Speaker 4: You could have done.

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Speaker 5: You could have done Eagles commi's National Fox at one, yeah,

588
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 5: and then done Broncos Chargers as the national CBS at

589
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 5: four to twenty five.

590
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have done it too.

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Speaker 5: What are they gona play it four twenty five? I

592
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 5: mean Dolphins, they're both a littit.

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Speaker 2: Out of it.

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00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Patriots both yet what Dolphins?

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00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: Dolphins are technically still in But it's come on possible.

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Speaker 3: Come on, just throwing it out there, hey hey, come yeah,

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Speaker 3: come on.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a wild it's a wild slate.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. That's that's tough.

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Speaker 6: Okay, injury update or no real updates from yesterday. Like

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00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 6: I told you guys, obviously you know, disappointed for Nick,

618
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 6: but I know he'll bounce back and he'll attack his rehab.

619
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 6: So with the game. Obviously feel the same way as

620
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 6: I felt yesterday, really disappointed in turning the ball over

621
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,719
Speaker 6: six times. You are not going to beat anybody doing that.

622
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 6: So unfortunately, there's some good things that occurred during that game,

623
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 6: particularly our defense I thought played really really good football

624
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 6: for the majority of the game. But unfortunately we just

625
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 6: as a team didn't do all those things that you

626
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 6: need to do in order to beat a good team.

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Speaker 6: So that's where our focus will be. I'll take any

628
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Speaker 6: questions you guys.

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Speaker 8: Got hey, Kevin, what are you gonna do quarterback against

630
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 8: the Mangles?

631
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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're still putting this game to bed, So anything

632
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 6: related to Bank Cincinnati, I'll update you guys as we

633
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 6: get into the week.

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Speaker 9: All right.

635
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 8: And then with Nick, do you know if he's in

636
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 8: any surgery.

637
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 6: I don't know that just yet.

638
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't believe.

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00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 8: So okay, in like recovery time, do you know how long?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not only it's a shorter term recovery time,

641
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 6: but obviously we're gonna lose him for the.

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Speaker 8: Season, right, And just with him, Ken, did you see

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Speaker 8: I know it's such a tough knee injury, but did

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Speaker 8: you see signs of him kind of rounding into the

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00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 8: form that we're so used to seeing? Is the season

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Speaker 8: went along?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think certainly if you saw Nick

648
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 6: get some really had some really big plays for us

649
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 6: this season. Think about some of the runs near the

650
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 6: goal line where he put his head down and powered through,

651
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 6: including in the games where he just got back out there.

652
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 6: So I can't say it enough how impressive it was

653
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 6: to watch him get back for this season, going all

654
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 6: the way back. I can. I still have the video

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Speaker 6: of him running the hills at the Greenbrier and just

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00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:22,239
Speaker 6: the guy is so determined, so very very disappointed for

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Speaker 6: how you know, with yesterday and him having that unfortunate injury,

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Speaker 6: but it can't take away from what he was able

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Speaker 6: to accomplish this season.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Kevin, when we talked to Jamis after the game,

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Speaker 10: we went over some of the interceptions and you know,

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Speaker 10: the one went off in Nick's hands and then he

663
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Speaker 10: described what happened with you know, the receiver thinking he

664
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Speaker 10: was throwing it to someone else on the third one.

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Speaker 10: The question is do some of those things factor into

666
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Speaker 10: your decision on what you're going to do. And then

667
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Speaker 10: also the fact that a guy like Jerry Judy has

668
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Speaker 10: absolutely flourished and thrived with Jamis, you know, would that

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Speaker 10: be another thing that you would take into consideration.

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Speaker 6: I think with any decision, Mary Kay, you take everything

671
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Speaker 6: into consideration. Certainly, so we need to work through all

672
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Speaker 6: those type of things, but ultimately we want to do

673
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Speaker 6: what's best for the team.

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Speaker 10: But with Jamis's interceptions, I mean, do you feel like,

675
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Speaker 10: I mean, does he have a point? I mean some

676
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Speaker 10: of them have gone to Elijah Moore, where Elijah really

677
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Speaker 10: hasn't done very well on the jump balls this year,

678
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Speaker 10: per se. I think he's way up there in terms

679
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Speaker 10: of passes intended for him. I mean, how do you

680
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Speaker 10: feel about Jamis's interceptions in total?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I would tell you Mary Kay, and we kind

682
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Speaker 6: of talked about this last week. You really treat each

683
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Speaker 6: play as its own entity, if you will, and you

684
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Speaker 6: make sure that you coach a player up on every

685
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Speaker 6: single play. So on plays where you have an interception

686
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Speaker 6: or a missed assignment or whatever it may be, you

687
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Speaker 6: just try to learn from every single one of those.

688
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Speaker 6: And they're all different. So that's what we're to do.

689
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Speaker 6: I think just sitting with the quarterbacks and going over

690
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Speaker 6: those plays, I think it's good for everybody to learn

691
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Speaker 6: from them, particularly when you feel like you can maybe

692
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Speaker 6: make a better decision, have better technique, whatever whatever it

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Speaker 6: may be.

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Speaker 11: I guess I was gonna ask you a similar question, Kevin,

695
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Speaker 11: as a coach who has been around quarterbacks basically your

696
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Speaker 11: whole career, what teaching points can you give a quarterback

697
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Speaker 11: to be more careful with the ball?

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Speaker 6: I think ultimately, Jeff, you certainly are playing in a

699
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Speaker 6: position where you're making decisions seventy times a game, and

700
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Speaker 6: you have to trust what you see, if to trust

701
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Speaker 6: in your technique. And certainly we know that a big

702
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Speaker 6: part of winning and losing in football is taking care

703
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Speaker 6: of the ball. We get that. We also know that

704
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Speaker 6: you have to play a style of football that gives

705
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Speaker 6: yourself a chance to make your art. So there are

706
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Speaker 6: times that you're aggressive, there's times that you're not based

707
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Speaker 6: on what the situation is, maybe based on what the

708
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Speaker 6: route concept is and those type of things. So I

709
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 6: think you coach all of that up constantly, Jeff, and

710
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 6: we're trying to play that game where we take care

711
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Speaker 6: of the ball and you find a way to win.

712
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Speaker 6: But it's always gonna be something that's important to winning

713
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Speaker 6: and losing in terms of taking care of the football.

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Speaker 12: Okay, Kevin, when you say you're ultimately you're going to

715
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Speaker 12: do what's best for the team, do you mean this

716
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Speaker 12: week or for the team in general? And I'm talking

717
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 12: about the quarterback situation. Isn't it time for you guys

718
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Speaker 12: to make some decisions about rebuilding this thing for next year?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I think my focus, Tony, whether it's the quarterback position,

720
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Speaker 6: it's really any position, constantly trying to do what I

721
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,479
Speaker 6: feel like is best for the team for right now,

722
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Speaker 6: for this week for Cincinnati, that's really where our focus is.

723
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Speaker 12: And another question on Chub. You know, we talked to

724
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Speaker 12: Chubb last week and he said he's not close to

725
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 12: shutting it down and all that. But was there any

726
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Speaker 12: conversation that he would have been shut down somewhere in

727
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Speaker 12: the next three games?

728
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Speaker 3: No?

729
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Speaker 6: Why not? Am I allowed to ask answer your question

730
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Speaker 6: with a question?

731
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Why?

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Speaker 12: I mean, he's been through so much. I wouldn't just

733
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Speaker 12: to refresh his knee as long as you could be

734
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Speaker 12: in the best interests of him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think and I understand what you're asking, Tony,

736
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Speaker 6: But I would tell you is our guys are competitors.

737
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Speaker 6: They're here to play, They're here to compete. Nick is

738
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Speaker 6: an ultimate competitor with how he carries himself in the building,

739
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Speaker 6: on the practice field, in the game field. That was

740
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Speaker 6: never under consideration.

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Speaker 13: Hey, Kevin, I know Dorian last night said that he

742
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Speaker 13: had a package of plays already kind of planned for him,

743
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Speaker 13: and it just kind of was an expanded role when

744
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Speaker 13: you guys put him out there when you guys are

745
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Speaker 13: determining who's going to be the starting quarterback this week.

746
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Speaker 13: Is there the possibility of, you know, kind of figuring

747
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Speaker 13: that out all along the way while still expanding Dorian's

748
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Speaker 13: I want to say, like practice the things that you're

749
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Speaker 13: expecting from him, so that way if he does go out,

750
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Speaker 13: if it is him, he is more prepared for that.

751
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Speaker 13: Is that something you can do?

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Speaker 6: I think we obviously need to work through all of it.

753
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Speaker 6: Cam certainly that there's plays that we have for a

754
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 6: lot of guys that sometimes you get to sometimes you don't.

755
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Speaker 6: But in the case of this, I think it's just

756
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Speaker 6: something that we just need to work through.

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Speaker 13: Have you guys been able to do that at any

758
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Speaker 13: point in Dorian's time here kind of think about how

759
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Speaker 13: you would use him in a long term role.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I think all of our guys are really all

761
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Speaker 6: of them are working towards that, whether you're getting reps

762
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Speaker 6: with the scout team, with the with the ones, with

763
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Speaker 6: the twos, whatever it may be. I think we're constantly

764
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Speaker 6: trying to think of our guys roles moving forward.

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Speaker 14: Hey, Kevin, again on the on the quarterback decision situation,

766
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Speaker 14: did you expect to have a decision time we talk

767
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Speaker 14: to you on Wednesday, or is it something where you'd

768
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Speaker 14: like to see both guys practice and get practice RUPs

769
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Speaker 14: throughout the week.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll update you guys. Went appropriate Again, It's as

771
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Speaker 6: you can imagine, mondays are really about putting this the

772
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Speaker 6: previous game to bed, So just have some more work

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Speaker 6: to do.

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Speaker 14: Understandable. And on a side separate question, are you at

775
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Speaker 14: this point you're willing? Are you willing and able to

776
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Speaker 14: rule out jailk for the rest of the season and

777
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Speaker 14: is there any update from you on him?

778
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Speaker 6: Yeah? I don't have an update just yet on Jeremiah,

779
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 6: but I will update you guys. Went appropriate, but not

780
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Speaker 6: expected to play this week. Obviously not expected play this week.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 15: You guys are talking Ton Kevin this year just about

783
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Speaker 15: like the pre snap penalties, and I know there's been

784
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Speaker 15: a point of emphasis for you guys. Just what has

785
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Speaker 15: prevented that I guess message from getting through or those

786
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 15: mistakes sort of still persisting you think even this deep

787
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Speaker 15: into the season.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, we need to avoid the avoidable penalties

789
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Speaker 6: and those pre snap ones we feel like are avoidable.

790
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Speaker 6: Are there some things that maybe I take issue with yes,

791
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Speaker 6: and we knew that going into this game that that

792
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Speaker 6: may happen with that crew, and we'll get answers to

793
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Speaker 6: those type of things, but it doesn't change the fact

794
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Speaker 6: that you don't want to put your team in a

795
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Speaker 6: any in any way unnecessarily behind the eight ball with

796
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Speaker 6: something pre snap. That's those are the easy ones that

797
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Speaker 6: we need to avoid.

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Speaker 15: And then I guess the silver lining from yesterday Jerry

799
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Speaker 15: get into a thousand yards obviously for the first time

800
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Speaker 15: in his career. I know I asked you a couple

801
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Speaker 15: of weeks ago just about what you envisioned with him

802
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Speaker 15: when you got him, if you kind of saw this potential,

803
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Speaker 15: but you know, as you as the season winds down,

804
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Speaker 15: you sort of look ahead to even like next year

805
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Speaker 15: and beyond with him. Just how excited are you guys

806
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Speaker 15: about the possibilities that he gives you guys as a

807
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Speaker 15: potentially a number one wide receiver and what he's kind

808
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Speaker 15: of proven this year for you guys.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he continues to make plays in a variety of ways.

810
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Speaker 6: He shows the ability to line up everywhere in the formation,

811
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Speaker 6: which I think, like we've spoken about before, speaks to

812
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Speaker 6: his intelligence and he's somebody that will continue to to

813
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Speaker 6: utilize because he's made a lot of plays with the

814
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Speaker 6: ball in his hand.

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Speaker 16: Hey, Kevin, just with Nick out, what do you guys

816
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Speaker 16: hope to see from Jerome over these last three weeks

817
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Speaker 16: and what's going to be important for him?

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Speaker 6: You know, just continue to build on yesterday. I thought

819
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Speaker 6: he was really good. Obviously, gave us a spark in

820
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 6: the kick return game, gave us a spark on offense,

821
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Speaker 6: so it's just building on that. I thought his past

822
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 6: protection was good as well. So another young player that

823
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 6: will get a few more opportunities.

824
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Speaker 16: And then just going back to the quarterbacks, I mean,

825
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Speaker 16: over the last year, you've seen Dorian obviously more than

826
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Speaker 16: we have, just in practices and stuff like, how have

827
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Speaker 16: you just kind of seen him grow in those moments

828
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Speaker 16: where we're not pretty to necessarily.

829
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Speaker 6: I tell you, Dorian, like a lot of young players,

830
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Speaker 6: Ashley continues to use all his reps that he gets

831
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Speaker 6: to make himself better. I mean, I think when you're

832
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 6: running the scout team cards, those are great opportunities to

833
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 6: get better. You're not running your plays per se, but

834
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 6: these plays are so similar, so you can take your

835
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 6: self through a rep or a concept that you can

836
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Speaker 6: get better at and then in terms of just individual

837
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Speaker 6: just seeing a guy that takes coaching takes the individual

838
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Speaker 6: period into what he's doing in practice. So I see

839
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Speaker 6: a lot of growth from from Dorian and from all

840
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Speaker 6: of our young players.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, Kevin, I wanted to ask you about the Special teams.

842
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Speaker 17: You've had so many issues with that unit this year,

843
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Speaker 17: not not just from a kicking standpoint, but the return game.

844
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Speaker 17: You know what has led to the drop off there

845
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Speaker 17: and how disappointing has that been for you week to

846
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Speaker 17: week to continue to have those struggles.

847
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Speaker 6: Well, obviously, Darrelier, you're trying to affect the game in

848
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 6: a positive way on teams, and certainly our return phases

849
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 6: are setting up our offense with a good field position.

850
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Speaker 6: That's the thing with special teams is you're talking about

851
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 6: points in field position, two things that are obviously very

852
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 6: important to winning and losing. So disappointed with some of

853
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 6: our the plays that have happened in our punt return

854
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 6: in particular, we need to be better there. Obviously, turning

855
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 6: over the ball is really disappointing and not something that

856
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 6: we can do when you're trying to again set the

857
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 6: offense up.

858
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Speaker 17: And I know you want these players to take it

859
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 17: one week at a time, just how you know, big

860
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Speaker 17: picture wise for them though, How critical are these final

861
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 17: three games? As before, you and Andrew have to get

862
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 17: in the room and really have an honest conversation about

863
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 17: the state of the roster and who fits this team

864
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Speaker 17: going forward.

865
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Speaker 6: I think every game is important, Daryl, whether it was

866
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Speaker 6: game one, game seventeen. We look at every game as

867
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 6: an opportunity for our players, for our coaches, and it's

868
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 6: your tape is your resume, So these are really important

869
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 6: games for all of us.

870
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Speaker 10: Kevin, how how are David Nijoku and Cedric Tillman coming along?

871
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 10: Are you optimistic they'll be able to play in Cincinnati?

872
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 6: I'm hopeful, Mary Kay. They're both getting better, but we'll

873
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 6: have to see how this week plays out.

874
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Speaker 10: And if they can't play. Obviously, you guys struggled with

875
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 10: getting any production out of most of your receivers except

876
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Speaker 10: for Jerry Judy yesterday. Do you have other thoughts, plans,

877
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 10: or ideas on what you can do to generate some

878
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 10: more production from some of the other players.

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00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 6: Certainly we have to, Mary Kay. Obviously, Jerry's has been

880
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 6: very productive, like we talked about, but the best. That

881
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Speaker 6: we're at our best when the ball is being spread

882
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 6: around and multiple guys are making plays, and we trust

883
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 6: all of our guys who have the ability to catch it.

884
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 6: So it's our job just to put them in position

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Speaker 6: to go make this place.

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Speaker 8: Kevin Miles said he was going to see I think

887
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Speaker 8: the eye doctor today. Do you know what the result was.

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00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 6: I think he's still there. So I don't have an

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Speaker 6: update just yet.

890
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 8: Okay, so you don't know if it's going to be

891
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Speaker 8: it could affect him this week or anything.

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Speaker 6: I don't know just yet.

893
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Speaker 10: Yeah, Okay, thanks, all right, Thanks coach, appreciating Thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: We got a couple of minutes. Drew Aller returned to

916
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Speaker 2: quarterback at Penn State, so uh, that gets into the

917
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 2: quarterback conversation. He was viewed by most as the third,

918
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: so kind of the consensus right now and it is

919
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Speaker 2: cam Warden Scheder first rounders, and then Aler was kind

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Speaker 2: of the third if there If the draft was held today,

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00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,959
Speaker 2: Jaylen Milroe could be that guy.

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00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 3: Now.

923
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 2: I think both mill both Milroe and Aler Aller especially

924
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Speaker 2: will benefit from returning to Pennall.

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Speaker 4: Who's going back school? Aler's going back that neuss Meyer.

926
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: Yeah he's he's at l s U.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, is yours going back?

928
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: But he says no, He says no. He says he's

929
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Speaker 2: staying in the draft, which might be smart because next

930
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Speaker 2: year's draft will be a lot better than this year's draft,

931
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,919
Speaker 2: and you only need one. So he says he's staying

932
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: in the draft. So Milroe wers Beck was considered a

933
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: lot of people loved him, but he had a disastrous

934
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: year at Georgia and then he had elbow surgery so

935
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Speaker 2: in the SEC title game, so I don't know what's

936
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Speaker 2: going to happen.

937
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Speaker 3: And Dyllan Gabriel.

938
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Speaker 2: Gabriel is not going to have any measurable that anyone likes.

939
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Speaker 2: But he's really smart and really apt. Yeah he's a

940
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Speaker 2: little dude, he's probably five to eleven, but he can

941
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: see it and he anticipates and he throws very accurate

942
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: b So he's not going to drive it down the field,

943
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Speaker 2: but he could. Guys are open, he'll see it and

944
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Speaker 2: get it out on time. So the Aller News hits

945
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 2: that a little bit The other thing is kind of

946
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: crazy about that their backup quarterback jumped into the portal

947
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: and then left Penn State. Bo Pribylla. He left Penn State.

948
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Speaker 2: So they play Frat, they play Saturday at noon against SMU,

949
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: and their backup quarterback is gone off the team left.

950
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 2: So that's crazy. Like Ohio State's backup quarterback entered the portal,

951
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 2: but he's sticking around.

952
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 4: Aren't you surprised?

953
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 3: Aler?

954
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Speaker 5: Like, would he be the third best quarterback in next

955
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 5: year's class?

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00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: Hard to say because at this time last year we

957
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 2: would have said you Weers and Beck would go one two,

958
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Speaker 2: and now neither one going to be. But I understand

959
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Speaker 2: why he's going back. And the other thing is is

960
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: like financially, I mean, he might make two and a

961
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: half million dollars quarterback in Penn State next year.

962
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is pretty great. You know.

963
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: There was talk of like last Friday of quinne Ewers.

964
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Speaker 2: If he goes in the portal and goes to highest bidder,

965
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: he can make three and a half or four million

966
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: dollars quarterback in college football next year. So if you're

967
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: a second or third round pick, why wouldn't he do that? Well,

968
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: that's what they're saying so, but he he would need

969
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: to go to like he is getting expertly coached at Texas,

970
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: he would have to go to a place like Ole

971
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 2: Miss where he would get expertly coached at the quarterback

972
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Speaker 2: position to get better, to improve his pro chances. So

973
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: that's that's the other thing with college football right now

974
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: is you can do that.

975
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt.

976
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 5: So that's very that's very Can we can we talk

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Speaker 5: about I know this is it's not it's I think

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Speaker 3: Maybe a two forty what maybe a two forty.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we got to get.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I enjoyed watching the end of the Saints game.

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00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 9: I thought that was pretty exciting, thrilling with Spencer Rattler

1005
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 9: going down the field. I know is sort of a

1006
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 9: meaningless game, but seeing them go down and having them

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00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 9: come back from their big deficit and have a chance

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Speaker 9: to win the game. And I always love when coaches

1009
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 9: believe in their players and they decide to go for

1010
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 9: two in that situation on the clock, you can kick

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00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 9: the extra point, go to overtime, or you go for

1012
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 9: two for the win. And it didn't work out for them,

1013
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 9: But I think trusting your players and going for two.

1014
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 9: I always love it when coach just make that decision

1015
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 9: and they try to win it in regulation.

1016
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Speaker 5: Wasn't there some funky clockwork that even allowed the last

1017
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 5: play that ended in a touchdown? Were they talking about

1018
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 5: that while you were watching it, huff a Fact?

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00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I heard people talking.

1020
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 4: About have gotten the last playoff?

1021
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 2: Right and the Saint shouldn't.

1022
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 9: Fortunately for me, you know, I usually watch a game

1024
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 9: and I'll have like the red zone on, and so

1025
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 9: the red zone went to it, and you don't always

1026
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 9: get the commentary from the uh the announcers of that time.

1027
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 9: So I heard it this morning. But apparently like the

1028
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 9: sideline reff thought it was college because he kind of

1029
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 9: like stopped the clock and gave him that opportunity when

1030
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 9: maybe the clock should have expired.

1031
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 3: That's pretty it was a big deal.

1032
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 5: They shouldn't even gott accounce I have that touchdown. That

1033
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 5: wouldn't have mattered for Vegas, I don't.

1034
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 3: Think because it was like it was nine and a half.

1035
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 5: Was it was eight and then I think it ended

1036
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 5: at seven and a half, so it still would have

1037
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 5: been seven, so it was still been.

1038
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Speaker 2: On the saint.

1039
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Speaker 5: I don't know if it could have affected a total,

1040
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 5: though that's possible, yeah, could.

1041
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 3: Have affected it.

1042
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 5: To worry about those and do what you do in

1043
00:50:54,840 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 5: today's day age for for sure, haf that was off yesterday,

1044
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 5: the turnovers, the pre snap penalties. You're at you were

1045
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 5: the best tackle when you know now we're getting the

1046
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 5: lining up too far back. What did you just kind

1047
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 5: of make of the overall sloppiness and the fact that

1048
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 5: here we are in game fourteen and it's still self

1049
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 5: inflicted wounds that are just derailing this team and taking

1050
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 5: away any chance it has to be consistently competitive.

1051
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 9: Well, it was disappointing and it was a shame, especially

1052
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 9: because when you look at at least maybe the last

1053
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 9: half of the season, we played pretty well against the

1054
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 9: better teams on our schedule, obviously beating the Steelers and

1055
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 9: beating the Ravens, and you know, I think, especially with

1056
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 9: the Chiefs not blowing anybody out, there was a lot

1057
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 9: of hope in my mind that it was going to

1058
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 9: be a good, close game. At least it would be

1059
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 9: fun to watch. You know, we were going to have

1060
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 9: Jameis Winston keeping both teams in the game the way

1061
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 9: he usually does, but it was going to come down

1062
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 9: to the wire and maybe be a fun game. But

1063
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 9: it turned out to be more like a Thanksgiving after

1064
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 9: noon app type game where you kind of fell asleep

1065
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 9: in the second half because the Browns were never in

1066
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 9: it from the start, and when you are minus six

1067
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 9: in the turnover margin, I think it doesn't take a

1068
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 9: genius to look at the turnover chart and say it's

1069
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 9: pretty much impossible to win in that situation. And then

1070
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 9: when you compile that with the number of pre snap

1071
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 9: errors and the sloppiness that we had not seen when

1072
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 9: the Browns have played some of the better teams on

1073
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 9: their schedule, and certainly Kansas City qualifies as one of

1074
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 9: the better teams on the Brown schedule, it was just

1075
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 9: a disappointing outing. And it didn't seem like from top

1076
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 9: to bottom that the players and the coaches were ready

1077
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 9: and inspired to play the way that they had been

1078
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 9: in weeks past when they played some of the better

1079
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 9: teams in some of the bigger moments.

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00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the thing that was tricky is I mean,

1081
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: like I think everybody. Most people probably expected this result.

1082
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: I mean, Kansasity was twelve and one of the two

1083
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 2: times Super Bowl champions. Like we are what our record

1084
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 2: says we are, but Kansasity was a particularly sharp off

1085
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 2: and our defense played really well. Mahomes missed a lot

1086
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 2: of stuff in this game and wasn't on point the

1087
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 2: way we're used to seeing it.

1088
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 3: So I think that leads.

1089
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: That adds to it, right, because this one was there

1090
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: for it to be competitive, and I understand that it

1091
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 2: was only twenty one to seven, but to me, it

1092
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: felt like thirty five to seven.

1093
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's full a lot worse because your offense couldn't

1094
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 9: fiss the drop most of the game, and at the

1095
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 9: beginning of the game, especially the first half, your defense

1096
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 9: was playing well. I mean you were stopping them. And

1097
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 9: if you looked at Okay, what are the two advantages

1098
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 9: we have going into this game, it's going to be Okay,

1099
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 9: Miles Garrett rushing against their left tackle, who is, by

1100
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 9: the way, a guard. He was not a tackle up

1101
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 9: until this moment, Joe Toney. They slid him out there

1102
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 9: to play left tackle because they knew that the guy

1103
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 9: they had out there at left tackle had no chance

1104
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 9: of blocking Miles Garrett, and you said, Okay, we feel

1105
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 9: pretty good. We can keep it close where it's not

1106
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 9: a situation where they can just double and triple team Miles,

1107
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,280
Speaker 9: which I saw a few times, which is surprising because

1108
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 9: triple teams almost never happened in the NFL. But they

1109
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 9: were doing that down throw the ball and they had

1110
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 9: to get more receivers out on their route, and so

1111
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 9: you were disappointed, thinking, hey, if it was close, Miles

1112
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 9: has a chance to impact the game. You know, he

1113
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 9: was motivated to get to his hundred sack. We knew

1114
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 9: that on defense, Chris Jones, he's sort of their difference

1115
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 9: maker up front. He's their defensive tackle, one of the

1116
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 9: best in the NFL over the last decade. But we

1117
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 9: have a couple of the best guards in the NFL

1118
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 9: over the last decade. So we felt like, at least

1119
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 9: I did, going into this game, that we had an

1120
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 9: opportunity because of matchups if it was a close game

1121
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 9: to maybe win win one, like sneak one out or

1122
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 9: at least make it fun down the stretch. And it

1123
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 9: was none of that, especially because your offense just couldn't

1124
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 9: do anything, and when they almost tried to start doing

1125
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 9: something that seemed like they turned the ball over, and

1126
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 9: so it was. It was another one of those where

1127
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 9: it was just not a fun game. Rather throw yourself

1128
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 9: down a flight of stairs or poke some the needles

1129
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 9: in your eyeballs. Then to watch what happened there on Sunday, Yeah.

1130
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 3: What did you think of?

1131
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 5: Speaking of getting poked in the eye, I still am

1132
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 5: not I still don't really understand what happened with Miles.

1133
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: I know they showed it a bunch, I couldn't tell

1134
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 2: I have no clue.

1135
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 5: What did you kind of just make of that whole thing.

1136
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 5: I will tell you this, and I'm not downplaying the

1137
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 5: pain of being poked in the eye.

1138
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 4: It is excruciating.

1139
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 5: Or whatever ended up happening to his eye, I'm still

1140
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 5: not one hundred percent clear. But from the booth, all

1141
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 5: of a sudden you just look down and he was

1142
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 5: on his stomach, had thrown his helmet, and you're thinking,

1143
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 5: oh no, and Mahomes is there waving over and I

1144
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 5: was just thinking, like, oh God, Achilles acl anything away

1145
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 5: from the play, But these other replays, I still don't.

1146
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 4: Really know what happened. What did you kind of think happen?

1147
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 5: There and then obviously, you know, how would that affect

1148
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 5: he said he had some blurry vision. How would that

1149
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 5: affect somebody? Now he played, he had twelve pressures in

1150
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 5: this game, Hof twelve, which is unbelievable. He was so

1151
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 5: close to getting that hundred sack a dozen times.

1152
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, it's a shame that it wasn't a

1153
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 9: close game, because pressures become sacks when it's close, because

1154
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 9: the quarterback's not just getting rid of it because he

1155
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 9: can't write, he's got to hold onto it. He's got

1156
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 9: to go to his second and third reads, he's got

1157
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 9: to try to convert that third down. And so that's

1158
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 9: when you're playing in the close game, you get those sacks.

1159
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 9: Unfortunately it wasn't. So Mahomes is just like, I'm gonna

1160
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 9: throw it away rather than take a sack, and so

1161
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 9: you get a pressure, which feels great, but it's not

1162
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 9: the one hundredth sack that I think we all wanted

1163
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 9: to see. But from the benefit of being able to

1164
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 9: watch it at home, we got to replay fairly quickly,

1165
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 9: and you know, it was a touchdown in the back

1166
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 9: of the end zone if I'm remembering exactly correctly. And

1167
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 9: then they went right over to Miles and you saw it,

1168
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 9: and you got to see the replay right away, and

1169
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 9: so it was fairly clear for me that, even though

1170
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 9: you couldn't see what happened, Tuney had thrown his right

1171
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 9: hand up into the face mask area. It was not intentional,

1172
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 9: and he wasn't trying to throw like a high punch.

1173
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 9: But when you have that hand fighting, a lot of

1174
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 9: times you're trying to aim for that check plate or

1175
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 9: the shoulder pad bicep area, and when the defensive lineman

1176
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 9: gets his hands in there, he's trying to knock your

1177
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 9: hands on. Sometimes the hands do go high and then

1178
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 9: you try to refit. But it looked like to me

1179
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 9: his right from the left tackle Tuney got in the

1180
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 9: miles of his face mask and may have poked him

1181
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 9: like sort of in the side of the eye. But

1182
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 9: you couldn't see because they kept giving you the camera

1183
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 9: angle from behind. And Charles Davis was trying to make

1184
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 9: sense of it too. He's like, I can't really see

1185
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 9: exactly what happened, but I think by his reaction you

1186
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 9: could tell it was his eye. But I mean, I

1187
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 9: thought his eye was going to be like hanging out

1188
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 9: at the socket. I mean, it was the way he

1189
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 9: was rising around in pain, and the only thing I

1190
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 9: can kind of compare it to certainly was not the

1191
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 9: same level of pain. But I had not lasiks in

1192
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 9: the offseason in my left eye, but I had like

1193
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 9: a PRK where they go in and they like scratch

1194
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 9: your corny air or whatever, and then it heals and

1195
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 9: your vision's better. I'm not obviously an optimologist, so I

1196
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 9: don't understand all of it, but I just I kept

1197
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 9: going back to my visits with my doctor, and I'm like,

1198
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 9: is everything okay? Like I'm having the most extreme pain

1199
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 9: I've ever had, and I feel like I'm a guy

1200
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 9: that can tolerate pain, but I'm like, this is just excruciating.

1201
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 9: And he said, you know what, sometimes with feel's eyes,

1202
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 9: there's so many nerve endings, especially with like what he

1203
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 9: said was like bigger guys that have really high pain

1204
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 9: talentes for whatever reason, there's all these nerve endings and

1205
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 9: it causes a pain that's almost untolerable, beyond what you

1206
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 9: could even expect. And he kept looking at his eyes, said,

1207
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 9: you know, everything's healing, well, it looks fine. It's just

1208
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 9: going to take some time, And that was the first

1209
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 9: thing I thought of when I saw Miles get poked

1210
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 9: in the eye, that he probably had some type of

1211
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 9: scratch there or something. But the pain is just something

1212
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 9: that you're not used to because it feels like it's

1213
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 9: not like in your body like you used to having

1214
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 9: knee pain, ankle pain and hit back whatever, muscle pain,

1215
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 9: but in your eyeball, like it's just so much more sensitive.

1216
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 9: And thankfully he was able to come back and play

1217
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 9: and seemingly probably no permanent damage from the looks of it.

1218
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 9: But man, you were so concerned when he was laying

1219
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 9: there and the trainers came over, he still wouldn't slip over. Boy, Yeah,

1220
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 9: it would just look terrible. And you wonder if he's

1221
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 9: going to be wearing a visor from now on to

1222
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 9: hopefully try to prevent something like that because off, Yeah,

1223
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 9: he had it off.

1224
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 3: They put it on after Yeah, exactly.

1225
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 5: It's weird on the replay that we were able to

1226
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 5: see the one that they like it was on, it

1227
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 5: looked like he had his visor on.

1228
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 2: No, really they put it, I mean because I think so.

1229
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 5: Like I'm watching the ones they have online right now,

1230
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 5: but give me. When we watched in the booth. It

1231
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 5: sure looked like because you could see a reflection off

1232
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 5: of it.

1233
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm not sure was that the visor

1234
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 3: after the facts.

1235
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 2: No, definitely showed it after, and there was a visor

1236
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 2: on it after, but the way they presented it on

1237
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 2: television was that they put a visor on it.

1238
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 5: I thought he always plays an advisor, because they even

1239
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 5: were showing his helmet.

1240
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 2: Jamis normally does, and then he didn't because the rain.

1241
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 3: Jordan said he had just taken it off.

1242
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 2: Because of the rain right before. Yeah, because of the drops. Yeah,

1243
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 2: like you can't see through him when it rains. Yeah,

1244
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 2: it's because Jamis didn't have one either, and he always

1245
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 2: has one.

1246
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, like he had taken it off like the series before.

1247
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 2: Series before because of the Yeah, it makes sense, the

1248
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 2: drips and stuff. Yeah, I'm with you.

1249
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 3: Hoff.

1250
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 2: There's an incredible HBO series called Deadwood, and in I

1251
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 2: want to say the second about Deadwood, South Dakota and

1252
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: the gold rush and all this, I want to say

1253
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 2: it's either in the second or third season of it.

1254
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 2: There is a man on man fight that leads with

1255
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 2: one man pulling another's eyeball out, And that's what I

1256
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 2: feared when you were. When I saw him with the

1257
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 2: I thought, oh my god, like it's his eye is

1258
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 2: his eyeball out? Like what the hell happened here? And

1259
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 2: that's what I I was with you. I thought that's

1260
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 2: that's what was my fear. When I saw the fact

1261
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: that he wouldn't move, I'm like, this is this is

1262
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 2: going to be horrific. So thank goodness that didn't turn

1263
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 2: out that way. Ye Off, Look, this is just such

1264
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 2: a it's such a brutal stretch right now, and the

1265
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 2: way that we're playing offensive football is pretty brutal. He

1266
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 2: got three games. All of the teams that you currently

1267
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 2: still have on the schedule will be playing for something

1268
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 2: likely when you play them, including Cincinnati this week. If

1269
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 2: you are a leader on this team, if you are

1270
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski, if you are someone of power and authority,

1271
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 2: what's the message? What are you trying to accomplish in

1272
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 2: the last three Well.

1273
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 9: I think the message is a bit similar to what

1274
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 9: you've been selling before and preaching, like you're going to

1275
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 9: try to play spoiler, which you know, especially for the

1276
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 9: younger guys, I think they get excited about that, but

1277
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 9: for the veterans, it's like, hey, we're trying to figure

1278
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 9: out who's going to be part of this thing next year.

1279
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 9: And you know, we didn't live up to our own

1280
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 9: expectations this year, but we feel like we've got an

1281
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 9: opportunity next year to reload, to gather ourselves and come

1282
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 9: back and make a run at a championship. And we

1283
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 9: want to find out who's going to be here, who's

1284
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 9: going to fit with offensive and defensive schemes, who are

1285
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 9: going to be the guys that want to be Cleveland Browns,

1286
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 9: and who are the guys that we're going to have

1287
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 9: to replace. And I think that's going to be the

1288
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 9: core of the message. And then as far as within

1289
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 9: the upper level management, it's like, all right, you know,

1290
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 9: who are the guys that we want to really take

1291
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 9: a good look at. And I think with dtr finishing

1292
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 9: the game, there's a good chance that they're probably going

1293
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 9: to be playing him the rest of the way to

1294
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 9: try to figure out what you have with him, because

1295
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 9: I think as much fun as the Jamis Winston experiment

1296
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 9: has been, he's not being delivered from it picks. You know,

1297
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 9: he's being delivered from pick sixes, but certainly not the

1298
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 9: other types of interceptions. Maybe some more prayers there around

1299
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 9: the holiday season here, but unfortunately you're not seeing any

1300
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 9: progress really with the interceptions. And I don't know if

1301
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 9: that's really a quarterback that you can live with. Yeah,

1302
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 9: he's fun in a season that has become meaningless from

1303
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 9: a playoff standpoint, but it's tough to put the hopes

1304
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 9: and dreams of your franchise and a guy that's going

1305
01:02:59,920 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 9: to throw three picks in every single game.

1306
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 3: Oh, you're right.

1307
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 5: And some of the young guys though that I did

1308
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 5: think looked pretty good in this one. Isaiah McGuire, who

1309
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 5: I know you've gotten to see you get after the

1310
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 5: quarterback on the end opposite Miles last week was Pro

1311
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 5: Football folks, is number one graded player in the NFL.

1312
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 5: And then I thought Mike Hall, the young defensive tackle,

1313
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 5: was around the homes all day.

1314
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 4: I thought those two were some nice bride spots.

1315
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 5: Andrew, my broadcast partner, and Sillano just texted me, he said,

1316
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 5: Miles said after him that was literally the first play

1317
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 5: that he had taken his visor off. It really looked

1318
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 5: like there was a reflection on the TV at the time.

1319
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 5: But that is very bad. Look, you guys are right.

1320
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 5: There was an incident at a ladder match with Joey

1321
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 5: Mercury when he was teaming with the great John Morrison

1322
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 5: where he got hit by the ladder and he literally

1323
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 5: thought his eyeball was gonzo and so yes, you were

1324
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 5: certainly fearful for that, and we're glad that Miles is okay.

1325
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 5: But back those young guys, McGuire, Mike Hall, it looks

1326
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 5: like you found some nice pieces there on that defensive line.

1327
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I think that's what you're looking for here

1328
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 9: down the stretch. It was fun watching Isaiah McGuire because

1329
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 9: obviously the game was a bit out of hand and

1330
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 9: I was just kind of peeking through the roster and

1331
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 9: trying to see, you know, who are the guys that

1332
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 9: I want to focus on. And there was a couple

1333
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 9: times actually I saw maguire getting some good pressure and

1334
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 9: I thought for a second it was Miles Garrett because

1335
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 9: he seems to have picked up some of the rushes

1336
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 9: that Miles likes to do, and I mean he was

1337
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 9: steamrolling the right tackle a couple of times where it

1338
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 9: looked like it was Miles getting that type of pressure.

1339
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 9: And I think, if you are going to be able

1340
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 9: to find a pass rusher to bookend with Miles. That

1341
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 9: would be so huge for the coverage and for the

1342
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 9: guys in the secondary, and for Miles as well, because

1343
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 9: now you can't just always single up the guy opposite

1344
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 9: him and put chips and slides towards Miles direction. So

1345
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 9: I think he was a huge fine and continues to

1346
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 9: make that improvement and letting these young guys play in

1347
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 9: these big games. Right, it's not big from a playoff standpoint,

1348
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 9: but when you're playing against these other teams that do

1349
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:53,919
Speaker 9: have championship aspirations and they got the playoffs on the line,

1350
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 9: it feels like a huge game when you're a young

1351
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 9: guy and they're fun to play in it, and you

1352
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 9: get yourself up and when you find you're a way

1353
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 9: to play at a higher level with greater focus because

1354
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 9: you're just there's more intensity, like you then become a

1355
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 9: player that can operate at a higher level. That's taking

1356
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 9: the next step right, and then from that point you

1357
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 9: can hopefully take that next step in the offseason. So

1358
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 9: it is fun seeing those young guys start to scratch

1359
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 9: their potential and start taking those next steps, and you

1360
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 9: start thinking about, okay, all right, who can we build

1361
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 9: around now this offseason? And what are the spots that

1362
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 9: we don't maybe necessarily need to address in free agency

1363
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 9: or the draft.

1364
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 5: I mean, Shelby Harris said in that d line room,

1365
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 5: he said, this is you have to say their two

1366
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 5: buckets are going to fall in. I was a part

1367
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 5: of the problem, or I can be a part of

1368
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 5: the solution.

1369
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 4: And you know, you have to be.

1370
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 2: He said that last week though, and this is what

1371
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:44,919
Speaker 2: we got.

1372
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

1373
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 4: Well in his room, his room, yes, yeah, and they

1374
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 4: played quite well.

1375
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, It's just that's tough. His room played, Ques

1376
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 2: his room did, Yeah, his room did.

1377
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 5: Jerry Judy played quite well. Drome Ford played well, Nick

1378
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 5: Chubbles running well. Before that, the Lion offensive line I

1379
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 5: thought played well. Defensively, I thought overall was good to

1380
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 5: We turned them ball over six times, we gave them

1381
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 5: we gave them seven points off of a punt. You

1382
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 5: hold them, force them to get a three and out,

1383
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 5: and instead it's that it's seven points for them. Yeah,

1384
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 5: you know, I mean, that's that's the other.

1385
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 2: I think the thing that's hardest for me, guys is

1386
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 2: I just don't know what we're trying to do offensively.

1387
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 2: I think in the first the early part of Stefanski

1388
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 2: his entire run up until this year. I knew what

1389
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 2: we were trying to be. I knew who we I

1390
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 2: guess I knew what our identity was. I don't know

1391
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 2: what other than and Zi said this earlier, he is

1392
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 2: exactly right, like, well, we have Jerry Judy and that's

1393
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 2: kind of it right now in terms of what we

1394
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 2: are offensively. And I so I think, like when you

1395
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 2: go into off season, you go to these last three games,

1396
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 2: and the defense played great, they played great.

1397
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 3: Mahomes is particularly sharp.

1398
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 2: The defense played great, though, and some of that's on them,

1399
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 2: but like we got to figure out what the Cleveland.

1400
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 2: So much of what Stefanski's this reign, his run here

1401
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 2: has been built on who he is offensively, and it's

1402
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 2: everything you see, Like you watch the forty nine ers play.

1403
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,439
Speaker 2: They're not getting results, but they are who they are.

1404
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 3: Yep.

1405
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 2: And I don't know what That's the thing that's hard

1406
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 2: right now, I think for me is like, what are

1407
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 2: we trying to do offensively?

1408
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 3: Haff Yeah, I.

1409
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 9: Think that's one of the biggest priorities this offseason. Obviously,

1410
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 9: we know the quarterback is going to be a question mark.

1411
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 9: Who's playing at that position? And most important position in sports.

1412
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 9: Kind of a big deal. But I think it's like,

1413
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 9: all right, what are the things that we can have

1414
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 9: the biggest impact on this offseason, And it's going to

1415
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 9: be all right, let's make sure we're a team that

1416
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 9: can run the ball consistently week in and week out.

1417
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 9: Don't know what type of play you're going to get

1418
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 9: from your quarterback, don't know what type of passing game

1419
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 9: you're going to be. But if you look back and

1420
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 9: you look at under Stefanski's reign, like when have we

1421
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 9: been really good on offense? We were able to run

1422
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 9: the football against anybody, and sometimes you had good quarterback plays,

1423
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 9: sometimes you didn't. But if you can run the ball,

1424
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 9: you can keep it close and you can win some

1425
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 9: of those games, especially when you have a defense that

1426
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 9: at times can beat You know this game obviously, but

1427
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 9: it doesn't take long to look back to last season.

1428
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 9: They were the best defense in the NFL and pretty

1429
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 9: much all the same guys. So if you expect, okay,

1430
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 9: there's a chance we can sort of revert to who

1431
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 9: we were the mean of last season as one of

1432
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 9: the best, if not the best defense in the NFL. Hey,

1433
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 9: if we can run the ball, and we can just say, Okay,

1434
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 9: we're gonna find a way in free agency, in the draft,

1435
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 9: and what we emphasize in the offseason, in the week

1436
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 9: of preparation, and what we commit ourselves to, and we're

1437
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 9: going to always be able to run the ball. Maybe

1438
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 9: it's with the under center, inside outside zone, pinpoll stuff,

1439
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 9: that's the fancy's been doing. Whatever it is, like, we're

1440
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 9: going to commit to that. We're gonna do it a lot.

1441
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 9: We're gonna spend a lot of time on it in practice,

1442
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 9: and that's gonna be our identity of who we're going

1443
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 9: to be. And then if we can take some shots, great,

1444
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 9: if we get some good play from quarterback, we can

1445
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 9: maybe emphasize that a little bit more. But you just

1446
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,560
Speaker 9: kind of say, hey, this is who we're gonna be.

1447
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 9: We're gonna run the ball. We're gonna find about who

1448
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 9: can be our running backs, who are going to be

1449
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 9: the dudes on the offensive line that can block for us,

1450
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 9: and these are the concepts that we run really well

1451
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 9: and we're just going to get really really good at it.

1452
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 9: I think that gives you the best opportunity to make

1453
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 9: a big improvement and find an identity on offense that

1454
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 9: we just don't have right now?

1455
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 3: Is that hard?

1456
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 5: When you know it seems like now with kind of

1457
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 5: the shift away from the Stefanski to more of the

1458
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 5: Dorsey offense, that is that a hard thing to do

1459
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 5: when you're in the shotgun as much as we are.

1460
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, it is, And that's why I think they're going

1461
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 9: to have to take a really hard, long look this

1462
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 9: offseason about who we want to be, right especially if

1463
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 9: you don't necessarily know that Deshaun's going to be your quarterback,

1464
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 9: or you're going to have a quarterback that wants to

1465
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 9: always be in the gun, you're going to say maybe

1466
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 9: that we need to skew more towards what we've done

1467
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 9: in the past that we've been really good at, which

1468
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 9: is those under center runs. And of course you can

1469
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 9: still sprinkle in some of the shotguns stuff. But I

1470
01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 9: think from the sample that we got this year, and

1471
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 9: then when Deshan has been a quarterback in the past,

1472
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 9: when we're running exclusively our run plays out of the gun,

1473
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 9: we're just not good enough. Right You're going to have

1474
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 9: a couple good runs here and there, but your under

1475
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 9: center is going to be the most consistent productive run scheme.

1476
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 9: Over time, unless you have a quarterback like you know,

1477
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 9: let's say a Josh Allen or one of these guys

1478
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 9: that can just hurt you with the ball in their

1479
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 9: hand running the football alone. Unless you have that, I

1480
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 9: think under center may be where they want to skew

1481
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,759
Speaker 9: because it just gives you more flexibility, and it doesn't

1482
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 9: give the defense as many pre snap reads about what

1483
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 9: you're going to do based on your alignment and your

1484
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 9: formations and your shifts. It makes them read after the

1485
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 9: ball is snapped where the play is going and to

1486
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 9: diagnose and dissect the run game, and I think that

1487
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 9: gives you a big advantage that allows you to be

1488
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 9: more consistent.

1489
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 2: Let's go around the league here, two really highly anticipated

1490
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 2: afternoon games going head to head with the Eagles hosting

1491
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 2: the Steelers and then the Bills at the Lions. Buffalo

1492
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 2: goes into Detroit. Those seem seems like the same team

1493
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 2: to me, I think, but Detroit's more talented.

1494
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 4: But they're both now they're so banged up.

1495
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 2: They are really in the Montgomery injury today that could

1496
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 2: spell the end of his season. So they're really banged

1497
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 2: up defensively, we know about their injuries, and then Philly

1498
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 2: handling business against Pittsburgh as well. Hof and we're waiting

1499
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 2: on a TJ. Watt injury. I haven't seen anything today

1500
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 2: in terms of an update on that, but we haven't

1501
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 2: seen anything in terms of severity of it.

1502
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 6: Enough.

1503
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 2: Of those two games, which one, to you felt mattered

1504
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 2: more in terms of what's coming.

1505
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 9: To me, it was it was Lions Bills because I

1506
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 9: think most people were saying, hey, these are probably the

1507
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,600
Speaker 9: two best teams in the NFL, And it was the

1508
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 9: most exciting because Josh Allen, he's right now the front

1509
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 9: runner for MVP. And for me personally as a Browns guy, always,

1510
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 9: if I'm not cheering for the Browns, I'm kind of

1511
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 9: cheering for the Lions. I feel like we're brethren a

1512
01:11:55,360 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 9: little bit, both long suffering, loyal franchise, loyal fan bases,

1513
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 9: and so that was a little bit more exciting to me,

1514
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 9: especially because I think there's a lot of love for

1515
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 9: Dan Campbell, but also it's fun watching Josh Allen. So

1516
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 9: that was really the game that I had on and

1517
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 9: I was watching the other game on the backup the

1518
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 9: bat TV over there to the right, and so to me,

1519
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 9: that was that was kind of the more interesting game,

1520
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 9: even though obviously I love watching the Steelers lose. To

1521
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 9: me that the Eagles the Steelers, they feel like they're

1522
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 9: good teams, but I just don't feel like they have

1523
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:34,480
Speaker 9: enough balance and consistency to go and win a championship,

1524
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 9: Whereas to me, it feels like Bills are Lions at

1525
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 9: least going into this game, we're going to be one

1526
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 9: of your teams that was going to be hosting the

1527
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 9: Lombardi Trophy after the season was over. Now with all

1528
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,560
Speaker 9: the injuries and the Lions have hard to argue that

1529
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 9: they're going to still win it all. But I would

1530
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 9: never count a Dan Campbell team out, and maybe that's

1531
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 9: when they're actually probably at their best when people count

1532
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 9: them out.

1533
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 2: They lost and Goff went five touchdowns, no picks. They

1534
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 2: won when he threw five picks.

1535
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 5: Yes, oh they did an on side kick. He went

1536
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 5: for it on fourth I think in their own and.

1537
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me ask you to this. Did Alan just wrap.

1538
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 3: Up the MVP?

1539
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, unless something crazy happens where he's just awful down

1540
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 9: the stretch and one of these other guys like Lamar

1541
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 9: Jackson or Patrick Mahomes just goes off.

1542
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I.

1543
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 3: Think he's got it.

1544
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's done two Allen Hoff just I'm pretty sure

1545
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 2: he plays Jets twice and Pat's one. They're gonna win.

1546
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 2: So they're gonna win out.

1547
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 4: Yes, he's gonna get it. I think so.

1548
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 5: They're gonna have a tough run though, because he's gonna

1549
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 5: Their team is flawed in so many ways.

1550
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 3: He has to be.

1551
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 5: Superior every single time, like he can't if he has

1552
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 5: an average game.

1553
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 2: That's why I think he even a stronger kick case.

1554
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think absolutely, one man, I think absolutely. Real quick,

1555
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 5: I went and looked this up. We were talking about

1556
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 5: under center shotgun. Twenty twenty, Browns were under in shotgun

1557
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 5: forty three percent of the time, twenty ninth in the

1558
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 5: NFL twenty twenty one to fifty percent twenty ninth in

1559
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 5: the NFL. Then you get Watson in twenty two fifty

1560
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 5: seven percent, twenty second in the NFL, sixty three percent

1561
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,839
Speaker 5: in twenty three, twentieth in the NFL this year seventy

1562
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 5: five percent shotgun, fifth most in the NFL.

1563
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 2: That's what it feels like.

1564
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's we went in forty years.

1565
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 5: That's my point. I guess what the forty three percent

1566
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 5: to seventy five percent shotgun.

1567
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 3: That it was.

1568
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 2: That was the point of the question I was asking Hoff, Yeah,

1569
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 2: is what are we doing?

1570
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 5: I don't know, how have you made a comment right there?

1571
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 5: You'd never counted Dan Campbell team out. And I think

1572
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 5: a lot of people who are watching Hard Knocks are

1573
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:42,600
Speaker 5: seeing the greatness that is obviously manifested itself. And I

1574
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 5: believe it's seventeen straight winning seasons for Mike Tomlin. But

1575
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 5: in Mike Tomlin, you know, is that what you think

1576
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 5: is going to be the new wave of coaching in

1577
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 5: the NFL? Because we've had this discussion a bunch of

1578
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 5: times because some of the most successful coaches in the

1579
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 5: league I don't think are quite those kind of guys.

1580
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 5: When you think about like an Andy Reid, you think

1581
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 5: about a Kyle Shanhan, although Kyle has definitely some gangster McVeigh,

1582
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 5: but they're just supreme scheme guys. Is do you think

1583
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 5: we're gonna see kind of the next wave of hires

1584
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 5: where people are trying to find like culture leaders in

1585
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,839
Speaker 5: the way that you know a Campbell or a Tomlin,

1586
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 5: how they are just absolute forces of nature in terms

1587
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 5: of what they bring to an organization and you think

1588
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:25,759
Speaker 5: of the available candidate's like a guy like Rabel, certainly,

1589
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna have his pick of jobs because

1590
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 5: I think he'll be viewed in that light.

1591
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 9: Yeah, whoever the hot coach is. That's what everybody chases

1592
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 9: with the open in the vacancies. I mean when Balichick

1593
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 9: had his run, I mean his assistants were getting hired

1594
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 9: every year even though they always you know, failed. Really,

1595
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 9: I can't think of a single one of them other

1596
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 9: than Rabel who had success. But even Rabel had gone

1597
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 9: a bunch of different places, and so you always chase that.

1598
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 9: And the thing I would say, I would caution a

1599
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,560
Speaker 9: little bit like how many Dan Campbells are walking in

1600
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 9: the face of the earth. Like it's great to think, like,

1601
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 9: oh yeah, let's go for the culture guy, but it's

1602
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 9: not really necessarily the scheme or philosophy that Campbell has.

1603
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 9: I think it's the personality of the individual, right, It's

1604
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 9: not necessarily like you're chasing the culture guy necessarily, because

1605
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 9: if you just chase that, then you end up with

1606
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 9: a flawed candidate a lot of times, Whereas I think

1607
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 9: there's a lot of ways to be a great head coach.

1608
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 9: You just named a bunch of them, right, the guys

1609
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 9: that are very very different. Look at John Harbaugh, right,

1610
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 9: he's a culture guy, but came from the special team's side. Right.

1611
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 9: His brother, you know, out with the Chargers right now,

1612
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 9: Jim Harball, Like he was a culture guy. They wanted

1613
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 9: to bring him in. But then you talk about like

1614
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 9: a Tomlin, he's a defensive guy, culture guy, Andy Reid,

1615
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 9: Kyle Shannan. Yeah, they're culture guys, right. It's not like

1616
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 9: they have a bad culture. I think they have great cultures,

1617
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 9: but they're much more dialed in on scheme and so

1618
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 9: I don't necessarily think you have to have one or

1619
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 9: the other. I think you need to find the right

1620
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 9: candidate and the personality and the human being more than

1621
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 9: chasing like something to try to pigeonhole into what you

1622
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 9: think this team needs or the fit that they need.

1623
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,600
Speaker 9: The only caveat I would say is that I do

1624
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 9: think like if you have a younger quarterback, or you're

1625
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 9: gonna get a young quarterback in the draft or whatever,

1626
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 9: I think you need to have an offensive minded coach

1627
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 9: who's going to be able to be there with him

1628
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 9: at least the first five, seven, ten years of his career.

1629
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 9: In that meeting room with him every day, because the

1630
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 9: two most important positions on any football team are the

1631
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 9: quarterback and the offensive coordinator slash head coach, and usually

1632
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 9: you want those to be the same guy. And even

1633
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 9: though Dan Campbell, you know, we say he's a culture guy,

1634
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 9: he did come from the offensive side, and I think

1635
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 9: he has a lot of impact and sway on the

1636
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,799
Speaker 9: offensive side of the football. And he's got a quarterback

1637
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 9: goff that have been around a long time. So I

1638
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 9: just think that if you hire a guy that made

1639
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 9: his money on defense and then you try to pair

1640
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 9: him with a young quarterback, to me, that's something that

1641
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 9: really ever works out.

1642
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 2: Authenticity. If you're gonna follow me might follow me to

1643
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 2: freedom guy, then you got to be authentic with that.

1644
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 2: And it's got to be who you are. You got

1645
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 2: to live that life. If you're going to be scheme guy,

1646
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 2: then you got to be authentic to that. And when

1647
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 2: you cross over and you become something you're not, that's

1648
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 2: when you get into trouble. And and that can be

1649
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,759
Speaker 2: I mean, that's life. Yes, you know, let alone coaching football.

1650
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 2: I want we got a run. I know you're gonna

1651
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 2: be in studio with his Wednesday, which we're excited about.

1652
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:34,959
Speaker 2: But I did I'm curious to your thoughts on Belichick

1653
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 2: coaching at North Carolina.

1654
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,640
Speaker 9: I think it's crazy. I mean, it doesn't make it

1655
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 9: doesn't make any sense to me. I haven't I haven't

1656
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 9: heard anybody that's like, oh, yeah, this makes total sense

1657
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 9: other than well, has Dad coach that you and see

1658
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 9: way back when? And you know, he feels like some

1659
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 9: type of uh nostalgia about it and stuff. But and

1660
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 9: I know Bill is a super smart guy, but I

1661
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 9: think some of the problems that he had later on

1662
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:02,480
Speaker 9: in New England is I think the ego and the success,

1663
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 9: not that it went to his head, but I think

1664
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 9: it clouded decision making a little bit, and that's why

1665
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 9: he drafted and signed guys that didn't work out. And

1666
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 9: I know he's good friends with Nick Saban, and he's

1667
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 9: talked to plenty of guys that have been in the

1668
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 9: college game and guys that have left, like Saban because

1669
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 9: they don't want any more part of it. But I

1670
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 9: think he's just not realizing that college football is all

1671
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 9: the bad of the NFL right now and none of

1672
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 9: the good, and like he's not getting any the purity

1673
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 9: of college football that his dad had when he was

1674
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 9: there in the fifties or even what it was like

1675
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 9: five or ten years ago. Like, I just don't understand

1676
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 9: why he would want to go there and have to

1677
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 9: be in charge of bake sales and booster fundraisers, and like,

1678
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 9: I don't know if he fully I know people have

1679
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 9: told him and he's like in his mind as like yay,

1680
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 9: I get it. I don't think he fully understands how

1681
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 9: much non football you have to do as a head

1682
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 9: football coach of a college team, Like he's gonna do

1683
01:19:56,600 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 9: twenty percent football and eighty percent fundraising and nil and recruiting,

1684
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 9: and like that's all the stuff he hates. He didn't

1685
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 9: even want to have to deal with one owner in

1686
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,719
Speaker 9: New England, him and Robert Kraft could barely get along.

1687
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 9: He would didn't like his GM, he didn't like anybody.

1688
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 9: He just wanted to be the dude making all the

1689
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 9: decisions and telling everybody what to do. And in a

1690
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 9: college world, like he's got like eight owners that are

1691
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 9: all the boosters that are keeping the program alive, that

1692
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 9: he's going to have to beg him for money to

1693
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 9: go pay all these guys with nil money and he's

1694
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 9: going to have to continue to recruit and treat his

1695
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 9: players with velvet gloves that are in the program. I mean,

1696
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 9: I just I just don't see how he's going to

1697
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 9: enjoy himself and stick around more than a couple of years.

1698
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 2: It's the same. Yeah, the idea that after every practice

1699
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 2: he's gonna have to go press the flesh with eight

1700
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 2: to twelve boosters who paid money to be there and

1701
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 2: want their opinion heard by him. That's every practice. And

1702
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 2: he's done with practice, and you have at luncheon and

1703
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 2: he's have to press the flesh for those boosters there,

1704
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 2: and then he's got to make sure he doesn't coach

1705
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 2: a kid hard or else the kid'll get in the

1706
01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 2: portal at any time.

1707
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 3: No chance, isn't.

1708
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 5: I think it's every bit is likely that he doesn't

1709
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 5: coach a game at North Carolina as it is that

1710
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 5: he does.

1711
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen a lot of that with the buyout,

1712
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 2: like a million million dollar one NFL team, if the

1713
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 2: Cowboys say, hey, no, come on, let's do this.

1714
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1715
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 2: I saw Diana Rasini, reporter of the Weekend, that he

1716
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 2: reached out to the Jets, and Schreger did too, that

1717
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 2: they reach out and he hates the Jets, So I

1718
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 2: don't know, you'll go ahead.

1719
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, I was gonna say, ye, why would he take

1720
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,679
Speaker 9: the job though, if he's still angling for an NFL gig?

1721
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 9: I mean, the only thing I can think of is

1722
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 9: he's hoping to maybe get his girlfriend into school and

1723
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 9: find a way, you know, that he can avoid the

1724
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:41,520
Speaker 9: admissions program.

1725
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 3: For his h instate. Perhaps, But also.

1726
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:49,600
Speaker 2: Caroline's a great schoolhoff beautiful camp when you're tough to

1727
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 2: get into it.

1728
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 5: He's also now he's like a taken commodity, right, So

1729
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 5: like it's it's one thing when he's just out there

1730
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 5: and nobody. Now somebody wants him to set up his son.

1731
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 5: But I still think he could. I still think he.

1732
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 3: Could be out of there.

1733
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, haf you'll be You'll be here Wednesday, buddy,

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Speaker 2: look forward to that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, looking forward to see you boys in person on Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: of the game, Great Clips, It's gonna be great. Tier's

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01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 2: Jerome Ford sixty two yards to the barn.

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01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:18,679
Speaker 7: Three point thirty clock moving, third quarter, twenty one nothing,

1755
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 7: it's second and twenty three.

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01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 2: Browns want to draw.

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01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 3: Ford has it. He's in the forty.

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01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 5: He's at the forty five to fifty Jerome Ford down

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01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 5: the sideline case forty thirty foot race ten touchdown.

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01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 2: Jerome Forard.

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01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 7: Sixty two yards and the Browns are on the board.

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01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 18: Jerome Ford then an instant changes this game and I'll

1763
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 18: tell you what, shad o'shay in the wide receiver meeting

1764
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 18: room is gonna be going nuts.

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01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 4: He's gonna love what he sees.

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01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 3: He get a nice block.

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01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 18: From Mike Woods, who maybe gets away with a hold,

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01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 18: and then you get a great block from Jerry Judy.

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01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 3: That's what creates the lane.

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01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 18: And then Jerome Ford just outruns the angle to the

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01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 18: house for the touchdown.

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01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 5: Oh baby, no baby, there that some nice wide receiver blocks.

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01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 5: You got to shout them out, Jerry Judy, Mike Woods.

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01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 2: What I liked about that was that the great call

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01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 2: by Andrew and then I like the context that I

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01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 2: got after bringing mine the wide receiver blocking downfield.

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01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 7: I really also trying to steal the joy. Maybe got

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01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 7: away with the hold. Maybe there was a wide receiver

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01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 7: that got away with a hole coming in with a

1780
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 7: fine tooth. Yeah, there's the analysis that I'm looking for.

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01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 7: Perfect trying to steal joy in a joyous moment. By

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01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 7: the way, I don't know. I don't know that that's

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01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 7: stealing joy at all, first of all. Second of all,

1784
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 7: if anything, it's like adding to the joy. Hey, we

1785
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 7: had a great play and we may have gotten away

1786
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 7: with one nobody's ever gotten mad about that.

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01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 3: We'll take it.

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01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 5: Eddie Guerrero, when he played offensive line down in El Paso,

1789
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 5: used to say, if you ain't holding, you ain't trying.

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Speaker 3: So there you go.

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01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 4: What do you think about that?

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01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 3: Are we sure that that's what happened?

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01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:04,679
Speaker 2: What you wrote something down earlier?

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01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 3: I did?

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01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 2: Do you remember what it was?

1796
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 3: I do?

1797
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 4: Were you watching Indie denvert All?

1798
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 5: I had it on. It was a red zone. Indy

1799
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 5: had the chance to win that game. They're up thirteen

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01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 5: to six.

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01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:20,679
Speaker 3: YEA, three picks.

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01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 5: Yes, Jonathan Taylor takes a six yard run to the

1803
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 5: house and drops the ball before he's.

1804
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:28,760
Speaker 4: In the end zone.

1805
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 2: Why these guys do this?

1806
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 4: I don't understand it now.

1807
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 5: Afterwards he felt very, very badly and then the game

1808
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 5: completely turned after that.

1809
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 3: They end up blown out.

1810
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 5: Nick Benito, by the way, has two receiving touchdowns this year.

1811
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:41,600
Speaker 5: He got a second pick six in this one. He

1812
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 5: had won against us as well. That guy's having an

1813
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 5: unbelievable year. They scored twice defensively. Did the Denver Broncos.

1814
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 5: We saw it wasn't it like early this year? And

1815
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 5: a Jets. The Jets did it on in primetime on

1816
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 5: Monday night, Like Xavier Gibson, I think so yeah, on

1817
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 5: an end around, I always think that they I think

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01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 5: that they're going so fast that they think they're further

1819
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 5: along in the field than they are.

1820
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:09,799
Speaker 2: Dude, you just run do bo Jackson.

1821
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 3: But all the way through, at.

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01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 5: Least you know there's a line and then there's green

1823
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:18,600
Speaker 5: and then there's another line. Yeah, at least get like

1824
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 5: in between the two lines before you even think about

1825
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 5: dropping the ball. What's the ex I don't think what's

1826
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 5: so cool about dropping it the second you get right there?

1827
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 3: Why is that cool?

1828
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.

1829
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 5: It's crazy that basically they're done now. I'm not saying

1830
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 5: they would have won the game, but it's a different

1831
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 5: game if they're up all of a sudden oh yeah,

1832
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 5: seven six.

1833
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 3: Or whatever it was.

1834
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 5: He apologized to a team. I give him credit for that.

1835
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 5: He said it will never happen again. I give them

1836
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 5: credit for all of those things. But at the same time,

1837
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 5: that is just a it's just wild to me. It's

1838
01:26:58,400 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 5: that it it that.

1839
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 2: It keeps happening after you've seen it one hundred times.

1840
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it feels like that's something that would be

1841
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 5: said don't ever let this happen again. Don't ever do this.

1842
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 5: It's shown in every team room around the NFL. Don't

1843
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 5: do And that's the thing. I don't get it. Nobody's

1844
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 5: ever been like, dude, did you see how close to

1845
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 5: the goal line he dropped it?

1846
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 4: That was awesome?

1847
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 5: Like I've never even heard that as a statement made

1848
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 5: by anybody. No, That's why I don't get I don't

1849
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 5: even get I don't get it. The other thing is

1850
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 5: they have the ability in most NFL stadiums to look

1851
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 5: up at the board and know a if they're being

1852
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 5: chased or b am I in the end zone.

1853
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 4: Let me see myself. By the way, Trent McDuffie.

1854
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 5: Said after the game that he only knew Jamis threw

1855
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 5: the ball on his interception because he saw it that

1856
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:45,599
Speaker 5: the ball.

1857
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:47,520
Speaker 4: Was thrown then turned around.

1858
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 2: Unreal pick Yeah. In that game, Anthony Richardson failed to

1859
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 2: complete fifty percent of his passes. How many times this

1860
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:03,799
Speaker 2: season has Anthony Richardson completed over fifty percent of his passes?

1861
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 4: How many games did he started.

1862
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 2: Playing one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,

1863
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 2: ten games?

1864
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 5: How many times he completed over fifty in ten? I'm

1865
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 5: gonna say four once over.

1866
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:19,799
Speaker 2: He had one game he went twenty to thirty twice

1867
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 2: he completed exactly fifty, not three times exactly fifty.

1868
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 3: So fifty or over, you got it. He was twelve of.

1869
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 2: Twenty four, ten of twenty seventeen to thirty four, and

1870
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 2: one twenty of thirty. Everything else is below. That's not tenable, brother,

1871
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 2: that's not good.

1872
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 3: No, no, all right, we got scores for you. So

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Speaker 3: much more to come.

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Speaker 7: ABC kicks off tonight's festivities the Chicago Bears in Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: It is a winter white out. The all white unis

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Speaker 3: Tonight for the pretty darn good bikes, Bears Zigura.

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Speaker 5: Go by the way, looking at Green Bay last night.

1888
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 5: If they just put that yellow, that's all I have

1889
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:39,839
Speaker 5: to do, so perfect.

1890
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Speaker 2: I'm almost to the point where I think I think

1891
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Speaker 2: all white is as much of a cheat coat as

1892
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Speaker 2: all black.

1893
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Speaker 3: Well, it's pretty good.

1894
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Speaker 5: It's so yeah, same ram It Vike's fifty Bears zero.

1895
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 4: And then the other one Atlanta.

1896
01:29:56,880 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 3: It's Falcons at raiders from Bay Point.

1897
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 2: Atlanta has to pay gutless Falcon.

1898
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 4: They gotta do this one.

1899
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, they got to falcons, gutless Falcons seventy eight Vegas

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Speaker 5: negative one.

1901
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I see these, the same one.

1902
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:11,640
Speaker 7: That one starts at eight thirty, and these are you

1903
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 7: couldn't flex these out.

1904
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,680
Speaker 2: You couldn't flex no manning on these, right, I don't

1905
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Speaker 2: think o nothing.

1906
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 4: They're done until, oh they're out until the wild card.

1907
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 3: I know. Yeah I have yet.

1908
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:26,719
Speaker 4: But did you watch the season finale?

1909
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 2: I did. We'll discuss tomorrow. Yeah, you'll have time, all right.

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