1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: We welcome and everybody to a Friday edition of Texans 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: All Access from Lawn Day, Texans Radio's studio. Joining me 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: to kick off the show, and I'm John Harris, your host, 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,079 Speaker 1: dpcitter DBI. How you doing. It's good? Have you in. 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm a fantastic Johnny. We're just a couple of days 6 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: away from leaving from Indianapolis, which this came around super 7 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: fast this time of year, I think with the Pro 8 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: Bowl and then you were right. Yeah, we took a 9 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: few extra trips this year, so I'm really looking forward 10 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: to it in next week. Especially having a first round 11 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: pick is a lot of fun. I forgot. I forgot 12 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: how fun that is. We have three picks before we 13 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: would have made a pick last year, because we've got fifty, 14 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: we got twenty three, and then we've got fifty four 15 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: and fifty five. I believe, I can't remember if they're 16 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: back the back of their two in between, but either way, 17 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: the Texas have three picks in the top sixty and 18 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: last year they picked till sixty eight. Now ended up 19 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: getting picked number sixty eight right with Justin Reid. Not 20 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: only right, they hit that one out of the park. 21 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: You get a third rounder like that, which I find 22 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: ironic because there have been so much talking and leading 23 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: into the draft about the failure of the third round 24 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: picks prior to and then all of a sudden, Justin Reid, 25 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: Martin's ranking and Jordan Nakins become contributors and Read becomes 26 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: one of the better young safeties in the league. Yeah, 27 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: it's shocking because you expect your first and second rounders 28 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: to be individual to be as starters by the end 29 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: of the first season. But Justin Reid, the fact that 30 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: he was still on the board in the third round 31 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: and so many teams passed on him, I mean, that's 32 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: a huge get for the Texans. Obviously, I can't wait 33 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: to see what happens next year with him, But now 34 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: seeing the success that Brian Gaine had in his first 35 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: year as GM, I'm really looking forward to seeing how 36 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: free agency shakes out, how this first and second round 37 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: shakes out, because I think the needs are pretty much set. 38 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: Everyone knows what we need. There are really going to 39 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: be no surprises, I think as far as a position 40 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: early on, Yeah, I with you. The thing to me, 41 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: as we've talked about throughout and will continue to as 42 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: we get through April is in what order? And I 43 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: think some of that order kind of has to do 44 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: with how your board is set and the player. You know, 45 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: is there a run on the tackles, Well, if there's 46 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: a running the tackles, then maybe there's not a run 47 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: in the corners. Maybe some of the corners are falling 48 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: into your lap at twenty three. Maybe there is a 49 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: run on the quarterbacks which pushes both the tackles in 50 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: corners down to you. And I'm assuming those are the 51 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: positions you would go. And then what are you able 52 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: to do in the first round? So are you able 53 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: to nab a tackle on the first round? So does 54 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: that open you up in the second round and start 55 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: looking at some corners or do you want to package 56 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: us to second round picks? Maybe move up in second 57 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: round and get up a better corner. Who knows. So 58 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of options available to 59 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: you because you do have some ammunition this year as 60 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: opposed to waiting all the way until a third round 61 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: to make pick. Now we know exactly why we had 62 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: to wait for picks last year. Totally okay with that, 63 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: because not going to complain about why we didn't have 64 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: the first or second round. Yeah about that, but it is. 65 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: But you know, I wonder if in free agency they 66 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: tried to fortify the roster a little bit more by 67 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: resigning either some of our guys or going out and 68 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: getting a free agent, so that if that situation happens 69 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: in the draft where you know there is a run 70 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: on tackles and you have to look for another position, 71 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: at least you feel like, all right, we've we've bolstered 72 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: a little bit, We've got some more depth through free 73 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: agency or bringing back some of our own guys. Yeah, 74 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: it's then you can really rely on the board and 75 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: say you're not really strapped for Okay, I have to 76 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: drop this position right away, I would think, and curious 77 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: your thoughts on this. I think at least one of 78 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: the two positions, and I'm gonna say this word, and 79 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: I know people are gonna freak out when they say it, 80 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: but I'll explain what I mean. I think at one 81 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: of the two positions, they'll overpay for a free agent. 82 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: And here's what I mean overpay. I know that sounds 83 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: like a bad word, but what I'm saying is I 84 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: think they'll probably pay a little bit more than what 85 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: that player's value might be to make sure that they 86 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 1: solidify one of the two positions with a free agent 87 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: coming from a different team. Maybe let's take for instance, tackle, 88 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: maybe Trent Brown with the New England Patriots, who had 89 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: a tremendous year. We saw him in Week one and 90 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: I just thought, going to the Patriots, like, well, he's 91 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: gonna struggle, and he was fantastic. He was really good 92 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: with the Niners. He's been really good with the Patriots. 93 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: I don't know that the Patriots are gonna have the 94 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: money to keep him. I don't know, but maybe you 95 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: have to overpay a little bit for Trent Brown to 96 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: make sure that you lock him up. You get him 97 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: locked up, then you're like, okay, I think Trent can 98 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: play our left tackle spot. Bring back Sean Treill. Okay, 99 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: maybe corner then becomes a little bit more interesting position. 100 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: I sat down yesterday during the breaks of our meeting, 101 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: and I was I literally went through and I made 102 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: a fifty three man roster. Yeah, I know, I knew 103 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: you were gonna say that, and I went through that. 104 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: I went through and I was with our new leaves 105 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: signed free agents in there too. Well, I put them 106 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: in as fa FA. But what I did was is. 107 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: I went through and I did my fifty three man 108 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: roster with the guys that I think will resign, and 109 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: then I put in the guy Okay, these are spots 110 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: where I think will sign free agents, and then these 111 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: are the spots I think will end up drafting rookies. 112 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: Now I didn't put around on the rookies, but as 113 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: I stepped back and I looked at I went, yeah, 114 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: this is probably about what I think. And at that 115 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: point I had I had basically two free agent signings 116 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: outside the team, like two kind of name free agents, 117 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: if you will. And once you get to the free 118 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: agent realm, maybe there are some names, especially because we're 119 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: looking at defensive line names and not a lot of 120 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: people who are gonna end up knowing right. But say 121 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: you signed Trent Brown as you're offensive tackle, and then 122 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,559 Speaker 1: you're able to find you a corner, a young corner. 123 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's take for example, Pierre to see 124 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: here for the Colts. I don't know if that'll happen, 125 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: but play pretty well for the Colts. But maybe those 126 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: are the two free agents from outside the building that 127 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: you end up signing and bringing to your team. You 128 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: also got to handle some of the resigning. Obviously, we've 129 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: talked about Jemion Clown and you talk about Tyreman Matthew, 130 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: but there are other players on this roster that are 131 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: gonna be really interesting to me about bringing them back, 132 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: the defensive line in particular. It's funny deep when I 133 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: was looking at there's a mock draft, a two round 134 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: mock draft I saw the other day, and they had 135 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: us taken a defensive lineman in the second the second 136 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: pick of the second round, And I thought about it. 137 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: I went, what this mock is dumb? And then I went, 138 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: wait a second. Brandon Duns a free agent, Christi coving 139 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: is a free agent. Angela Blackson's a free agent. Like, 140 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: wait a second, maybe they're maybe they're on to something now. 141 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: That would be a little bit of a shock if 142 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: we did it early. But those are the type players 143 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: that we're probably not thinking too much about. We're thinking 144 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: about we're thinking about time right about Korean But those 145 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: guys are hugely important. Yeah, I was gonna say, those 146 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: guys add a lot of depth, and you know, the 147 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: price tag won't be so high. Like Angela Blackson, he 148 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: did some great stuff last year, good stuff. Yeah, And 149 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: then same thing with you know, Dunny, I know they 150 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: really like brand done. Christian Covington has been here since 151 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: he was drafted, so he knows the system, he knows 152 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: the defense. They know exactly what they get in him. 153 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: I think sometimes a free agents it's a mixed bag, 154 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: right exactly. They may look great on film, but then 155 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how they're going to fit 156 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: in with other teammates, other players. As we can see, 157 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: the culture of locker rooms in the NFL is vastly different, 158 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: and now that Bill O'Brien and his staff's been here 159 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: for a number of years, we kind of get with 160 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: the sense of the locker room is. You and I 161 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: can both sort of tell when a guy is speaking 162 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: at the podium at a press conference, you know, you know, 163 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: at the combine for instance, like, oh, this is one 164 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: of our guys, right. I remember Leonard Fournette a few 165 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: years ago when he was talking about entering the NFL. 166 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: I I looked at you and I said, this does 167 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: not sound like something one of our players would say, 168 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: Like I think the question was and not to not 169 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: anything against Leonard Fournette. You know, he's very talented, obviously, 170 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: but I, you know, I just think that sometimes the 171 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: guys fits and fit in some locker rooms and with 172 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: coaching staffs, and other guys just don't. But someone asked 173 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: him who was a player that he looked up to 174 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: um watching football, and he said, well, I never really 175 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: watched football. Remember that, I never watched never really watched football. 176 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: So I don't really say there's anybody. And I thought, 177 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine a single guy in our locker 178 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: room not just loving football, even if they're not on 179 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: the active roster, even if they're a practice squad guy. 180 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: They all have that in common, that that passion, that 181 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: drive for football, and that seems to be really important 182 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: to this coaching staff here. You're exactly right. And I 183 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: remember when Leonard said that, and I was like, well, 184 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't think he was gonna get to 185 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: the Texans as it was, and I didn't think they 186 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: were going to draft the running back because they were 187 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: just they had, uh, they had snatched up Lamar Miller 188 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: and they were going that would have been going into 189 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: the second year, so oh it was his second year. 190 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: Would be his second year, so he didn't only been 191 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: here a year, So running back was not and he 192 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna get to us in the draft anyways. But 193 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: it makes me think, you imagine if Jacksonville had taken 194 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson at number four, Well, I mean last 195 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: year they could have taken Lamar Jackson. How much did 196 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: we hold our breath when all the quarterback I've told 197 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: you this story. You're sitting right in the seat that 198 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: I was sitting in. So Mark sitting here, and Andrea 199 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: was here, and so it's the three show. I was 200 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: in the corner because I was typing up stories. Yeah, 201 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: so's we're sitting in here, and you saw us, and 202 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: so Drey at one point like looked at me and 203 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: like slid his phone over. He had been texting Lamar 204 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: during the draft because he had gotten pretty close with 205 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: Lamar with the whole Heisman trophy. They had gotten to 206 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: know each other and he was the only media person 207 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: that had any sort of interview with Lamar. He was 208 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: the only the only one that his mom trusted, and 209 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: that was it. And so they were texting back and forth, 210 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: and it came up to Jacksonville, the three of us 211 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: when they said Taven Bryan to three of us, like 212 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: jumped out, yeah, yeah, yes, I was because I knew 213 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: where he wasn't going to get to the second round 214 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: of Jacksonville, and so I was like, anything to keep 215 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson out. Now there's a thought with Jacksonville number 216 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: seven take. But again to your point, when you heard 217 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,599 Speaker 1: that from Leonard Fournette, you thought there's no way that 218 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: guys could be a Texan. I think at Kyler Murray 219 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: knowing what's there, and Doug Morone and Tom Coughlin, and 220 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, there's no way they're drafted Kyler Murray. He's 221 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: just not a Jaguars kind of guy. I mean, it 222 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: just doesn't seem like he would fit. But yet, Kyler 223 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: Murray going too Jacksonville would give Duval County something they've 224 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: never right, never now they've had Mark Brunelle. And that 225 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: was really it was fun times I lived there. That 226 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: was fun times with Marcus point quarterback there, Kyler Murray 227 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: and Jacksonville with Fournette and give him another receiver, Oh 228 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: my god. But to your point, I don't think he's 229 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: a Jaguars kind of guy, just like Fournette was not 230 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: a Texans kind of guy. And they'll be guys when 231 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: you step up. And I remember listening to Seawn's press conference. 232 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: I didn't think there was any way we could draft 233 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: to Sean, but I remember thinking, that's our kind of guy. 234 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: That's just the way he answers it, the poise, the 235 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: calm that strikes me as our kind of guy. Well, 236 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's funny because I listened to Shawn's press 237 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: conference at the Combine too, just because there was so 238 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: much buzz rounding him in the National Championship. I thought 239 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: the same thing. But I didn't really pay too much attention, 240 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: you know, other than just out of my own interest, 241 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: because I thought there's no way he's going to be 242 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: around by the time the Texans draft. So I was 243 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: paying a little bit more attention to Patrick Mahomes. It 244 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: seemed like there was some rumblings about him, right, But 245 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: I remember you saying, I don't know if he's you know, 246 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: he's sort of colors outside the lines. I mean, he 247 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: was just from a play standpoint, from a play standpoint. 248 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: But then I thought, I mean Deshaun Watson also, like 249 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: I just both of them to me seemed sort of 250 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: like that they're they're not gonna be around them. I 251 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: love both of them. What fun What a funny year. 252 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: That was I I love both of them. I just 253 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that we got one of them. 254 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: I just didn't think at twenty five there is any 255 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: possibility of getting one. But then when the Chiefs one 256 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: up and got Mahomes, I'm like, well, if we're gonna 257 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: get one, and then of course we go up and 258 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: get get number four. That was pretty fun. We're going 259 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: to the combine on Tuesday. Looking forward that. Now, for you, 260 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: it's a little extra special because you get to see samily, 261 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: see your family a little bit. But is there something 262 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: you look forward to most with the combine more than 263 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: anything else? I mean, obviously outside of senior family, But 264 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: is there one thing that you look forward to at 265 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: the combine more than anything else. I really enjoy talking 266 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: to the national media and seeing what they think about 267 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: the Texans, about the AC South. I do. I do 268 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: a segment every year where you know, what are they 269 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: saying about us? And I'll ask them a number of questions. 270 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: Last year, the big question was, you know, what is 271 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: this defense going to look like with wat and Clowney 272 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: healthy on the field, Where will the Texans finish? Who 273 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 1: was the best quarterback in the AFC South? I think 274 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: the questions will be a little bit different this year. Obviously, 275 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: last year I asked, do you think the AFC South 276 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: is one of the best divisions of the NFL? It 277 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: was too early for people to sort of commit to that. Yeah, 278 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: I wonder, I go right in. I think we're in 279 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: the thick of it there, We're in the thick of it. 280 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: So people on a national level, I mean, they just 281 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: get just the very you know, the fringes of our storylines. 282 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: They don't really get the trip. But now with Deshaun, 283 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, back healthy, with JJ back healthy, I think 284 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: that pushes us back up in the national spotlight. But 285 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think that's one of my favorites. I 286 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: love hearing seeing these players for the first time and 287 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: listening to their press conferences. I think not having a 288 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: first round pick was so of a bummer last year 289 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: because I thought most of these guys that are talking 290 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: I have you know, I have no idea when the 291 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: Texans draft in the third round, is that guy even here, 292 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: is he's speaking at a podium. Is he's sort of 293 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: one of these guys that the big guys are at 294 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: the podiums, and then there's guys that come to it 295 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: like a roundtable format and so you know, you talk 296 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: to those guys. But this year, I I like it 297 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: because if even if the Texans don't draft any of 298 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: those guys, they're gonna end up in our division. So 299 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: like Leonard Fournette or you know, even Baker Mayfield. I 300 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: got to hear him speak and we played him. You know, 301 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: he started a game against the Texans. I like to 302 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,119 Speaker 1: be able to have a frame of reference Teddy Bridgewater, 303 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: you know, he spoke and I remember that was your 304 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: way of the first round draft pick. So that was 305 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: another number one overall pick. That was a lot of 306 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: fun because it seemed like any of these guys could 307 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: be our guy, and then you sort of follow their 308 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: their path. And I remember the night before the draft, thinking, 309 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: we have followed these guys, We've studied these guys where 310 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: they gonna end up, Like what is their career going 311 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: to be like? And who's gonna be right and who's 312 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 1: gonna be wrong about them? So I think that's all 313 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: he's exciting to see. You know, where are these guys 314 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: who are projected so highly where they end up. Well, 315 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: I think one of the things for me is and 316 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: last year it was a lot easier because I knew 317 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: any of the names we were talking about, especially at 318 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: Thursday night. We're coming at us. But I look at 319 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: it as all the studying I've done, all these players, 320 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 1: and now they're going somewhere else. But then there's one 321 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: that's gonna end up with us, Yes, which is gonna 322 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: be really cool. And and like, I go back and 323 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: I've done this with I've done this with Whitney. I've 324 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: I've actually read Whitney my draft analysis of him. I 325 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: want to I want to do that. I want to 326 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: I want to bring the guys in here. At some point. 327 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: You should read them my draft analysis. Uh hey, this 328 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: is what I said about you. How close was I? 329 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: So I went back and I looked at what I 330 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: wrote about this Sean. I got pretty darn close. Pretty 331 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: I mean really really close. I wrote a number of 332 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: different things that year, um, because I would have to. 333 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: I wrote something different from the Washington posts. I would 334 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: for us in some sense, but I wrote some The 335 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: stuff I wrote about Patrick Mahomes is so dead on. 336 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: I mean it's so dead on. And now it's like 337 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: we got to see him, and we're gonna see him 338 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: this year twenty nine, hopefully, we'll see him again in 339 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: the playoffs at some point, which would be kind of nice. 340 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: What about Justin Reid? What was your take on Justin 341 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: Reid did it? He did him. I had him at 342 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: number forty five, and my Harris went, huh really yeah. 343 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: So when he got drafted, I went back, I was like, 344 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: where do I have him? I was like, I got 345 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: him forty five, So like, you know, I felt like, 346 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: you know, I had him. I had him as a 347 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, kind of second round or maybe early third, 348 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: but he just you know, fell to us in the 349 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: third round, which ended up being really cool. Which going 350 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: back to your point, if if you'd known it last 351 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: year's combine, I mean, you would have spent an hour 352 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: with Justin Reid. You would have because he's so awesome 353 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: to talk to. He would have been so much fun 354 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: to have a few minutes with at the podium last 355 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: year because you know, before you know, he comes here 356 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: and he's a rookie and he's probably a little bit 357 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: more reserved than he's gonna be. I mean the combine, 358 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: he's kind of letting it flow. And I remember we 359 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: talked to him when he got drafted and he was 360 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: just I mean, he was a buddle of joy. He's 361 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: always been a great, a great personality to talk to. 362 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that he's one of the media 363 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: darlings because you know, even as a rookie's just got 364 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: so much confidence, so much poise. I wonder how much 365 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: of that is his personality, how much is just watching 366 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: his older brother go through it. But I'll never forget 367 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: his um his his conference called to us as soon 368 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: as he was drafted. He talked about We asked about 369 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: Tyrn Matthew and what that's gonna be like playing alongside him, 370 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: and he said, Tyrn and his brother played against each other, 371 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: with each other each other. LU, that's right, and so 372 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: now they get to he gets to play with Tyrant 373 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: in the NFL. I thought that was cool. Yeah, he's 374 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: and he wears one hell of an elf hat. Daddy does. 375 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: Go check out ka Jack tre appreciate it. Thanks Johnny. 376 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: Speaking of the combine, I'm gonna give you things I'm 377 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: looking forward to and the big stories that will happen 378 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: to Indie next week right here in Texas Access. Welcome 379 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: back to a Friday issue of Texas All Access from 380 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: Monday Texans Radio Studio. I am John Harris Football anals 381 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: Sylon reporter and the originator of the Hair one hundred. 382 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: You definitely want to check that out as I rank 383 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: the top one hundred draft prospects, not as it relates 384 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: to Texas. If it did, there will be positions I 385 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: don't even consider. This is just the prospects in the draft, 386 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: So keep that in mind. I did not sit down 387 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: with Brian Game, Bill O'Brien, any of the scouts, any 388 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: of the guys that I know pretty well and go 389 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: through it. This is all my assessment of where these 390 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: guys end up, and so you can go check that out, 391 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: and yeah, some of that will change. It pertains to 392 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: the combine, but hopefully not too too much. Over the years, 393 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: there's always been a guy or two that are just 394 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: like WHOA. That combine was just dreadful. The last year 395 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: everybody remembers, Zeus Brown from Oklahoma ended up starting I 396 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: think ten games for the Ravens, So that combine ended 397 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: up not meaning a whole lot. And what it ended 398 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: up doing was it pushed Zeus Brown down into the 399 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: third round where he's drafted by his dad's team, the 400 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, which is a very cool story. And by 401 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: the way, if you want to see a really cool video, 402 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: go check out NFL Films Presents on Zeus Brown. It 403 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: talks about his dad, the process of getting to Baltimore, 404 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: being in Baltimore, where and you know, the Ravens Colors. 405 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: I was so happy for him, And look, the Combine 406 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: was not an indication of what that guy can do 407 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: on a football field. And it's not perfect. He did 408 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: have struggles in the playoff game against the La Chargers, 409 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: but Zeus Brown's gonna be a really good player. And 410 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: he had arguably one of the worst combines for a 411 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: big name player that you could possibly have. And it's 412 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: funny because I think about going to the Combine last 413 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: year and I have on my computer. I just load 414 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: up my computer with a bunch of games and stuff 415 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: so I can watch on the way to the Combine. 416 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: At Combine, you know, when things slow down at night 417 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: we've gone out to come back home, I don't really 418 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: want to turn on TV see what's on. I flip 419 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: on a game usually, so I have all those on 420 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: my computer and so on. The flight to India last 421 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: year was really, really, really bumpy, and I just was like, 422 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: and I don't like to fly anyways, and so turbulence 423 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: does not make me happy. So I plowed up my computer. 424 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm just gonna just gonna watch. And 425 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: so my thought at the time was I was gonna 426 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: watch Zust thinking, hey, the Texans are probably gonna look 427 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: at tackle in the draft A third round is maybe, 428 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe there's not a chance to get 429 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: There's not a chance to get Zeus Brown. It turned 430 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: out that there was, but the Texans I think between 431 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: Justin Reid and drafting Martinez ranking, I don't believe. I 432 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: think Zeus Brown ended up being drafted either way. The 433 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: Texas did have a chance, but they want to Justin 434 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: read anyways. So Zeus goes to Baltimore. So I was 435 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: actually on the plane watching Brown and I'm watching Oklahoma, 436 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: and so this guy is sitting next to me. We're 437 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: in the last row. I'm on the window. He's on 438 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: the aisle. He's watching me, and he's watching and I 439 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: could kind of tell he's looking, but you know, he's 440 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: not intrusive, He's just looking. I got a decent sized computer, 441 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: so you could see it from all the way on 442 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: the other aisle. I guess. So he doesn't say anything 443 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: to me. But I'm watching the Oklahoma Rose Bowl against 444 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: George Baker Mayfield, a really good game. And so I'm 445 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: watching the game and the guy finally like literally is 446 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: we're about the land. He looks at me, he goes, 447 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: why are you watching? And I pointed at at Zeus Brown. 448 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: I just pointed at Y eight and he goes, oh, okay, good, 449 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: and then he pointed my computer. He goes, I don't 450 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: like him, and he pointed right at Mayfield and went, 451 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: oh okay. And the guy goes, I'm a huge Cleveland 452 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: Browns fan. I don't want him. I hope we don't 453 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: draft him. And I thought about that. It's like, you know, 454 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: as we head to the combine and the different storylines, 455 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: and I thought about that happening before we even got 456 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: before we even touched down in Indianapolis, that Browns fans 457 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: saying that I don't want him. I don't want him. 458 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: I wont how that guy feels now, because that guy, 459 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield's given the Browns not only a shot in 460 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: the arm, but he's given them a chance to do 461 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: something the Browns haven't done in a long long time, 462 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: and that's win and win consistently, so I always think 463 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: about that. But but Deuce Browns, guy, I was watching 464 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: this guy's watching Mayfield saying I don't want him. I 465 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: asked him, you know, I didn't get into you don't 466 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: want him? He goes no, and I didn't go like why. 467 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, I just left it. But that's one 468 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: of the fun things. We had a chance to see 469 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield last year. This year, it's gonna be Kyler Murray. 470 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: Kyler's gonna be one of the big storylines, There's no 471 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: question about that. At the NFL Combine. He's everybody's gonna 472 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: want to hang on every single thing he says. The 473 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks in this draft I think people want to 474 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: listen to, but they're not gonna be that guy. Kyler 475 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,479 Speaker 1: Murray is gonna be that guy. People are gonna want 476 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: to listen to Dwayne Haskins, maybe even Drew Locke, Daniel 477 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: Jones from Duke, but people are going there to listen 478 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: to Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray is going to be I 479 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: think one of the more fascinating stories of the combine. 480 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: Is he gonna throw? Is he not gonna throw? What's 481 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: he gonna do? How many tests he gonna do. That 482 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: obviously is gonna be a big storyline the Texans. That 483 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter to them. What matters to them, I 484 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: think the offensive tackles in particular, those guys will test 485 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: on Friday, the on field test. Now they the combine works. 486 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: They're gonna all the tackles, the running backs, and the specialist. 487 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: I believe all tests they test the same day. So 488 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: they're all flying it together basically, so they'll flying with us. 489 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: They'll fly on Tuesday, Then Wednesday they do the Wonder 490 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: Lake can have interviews. Third day they do all their 491 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: medical testing and do the media, and then Friday they 492 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: do their on field testing. And so obviously the onfield 493 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: testing we get a chance to see some of the 494 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: outfield testing before we leave. That's when you get a 495 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: really good idea of the athletes in this draft and 496 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: looking for the athleticism that you want to see, especially 497 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: at a position like tackle. And I remember last year 498 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: watching Zeus, I watched that that combine performance. I just 499 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: remember thinking, Wow, he's just not a great athlete. And 500 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: that's the hard one. That's the one. If you're a 501 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: personnel guy, you stand up on the table and go 502 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: but I don't care he's non athlete. This guy can play. 503 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: He can play. There are very there are very few 504 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: guys who banged the table for and I would imagine 505 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: in Baltimore they probably did say, look, we know his dad. 506 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: We knew his dad. Ozzy Knewsom was a GM there 507 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: in Baltimore when his dad was there with Baltimore, so 508 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: they at least had and there was a lot more 509 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: knowledge they had about Zeus Brown than any other team 510 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: was going to have, and so I think that helped 511 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: them in that situation. But I love watching the big 512 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: dudes run and the athletic basically, and some of the 513 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: fun guys over the years. I remember Brandon Sheriff was 514 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: there is now a pro bowler with the Washington Redskins 515 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: at guard. And you see these guys in the athleticism 516 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: they have and how they're built. And I'll be watching 517 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: the tackles very very closely and looking at the athleticism 518 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: and which guys are put together, and then I'll be 519 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: listening to them. Because DP sent in the first segment, 520 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: I think this is hugely important one of the main aspects, 521 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: and it's not just the Texans. I think that's the 522 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: one thing we all kind of get locked in. It's 523 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,719 Speaker 1: not just the Texans. I think I got the Philadelphia Eagles, 524 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, the Philadelphi Eagles when they won the championship 525 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. One of the major reasons was how 526 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: that locker room all came together. It was a bonded 527 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: locker room. It wasn't perfect, but they kind of exhibited 528 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: the same sort of spirit that the Texans had. I 529 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: thought last year, and I thought the nine game winning streak, 530 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: one of the biggest reasons for that was that locker room. 531 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: And look, no locker room is ever perfect. Not everybody 532 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: in there as a choir boy. Not everybody in there 533 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: is a wallflower. Not everybody in there is just gonna 534 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: love football and everything about what goes on. But the 535 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: guys you put in there have got to be a 536 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: good mix together. After last year was a very good mixing. 537 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: So you kind of get an idea when you listen 538 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: to the guy's talk, when you hear what they talk about, 539 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: you hear they respond the respect to half for interviewers, 540 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: just to respect to half of the process and what 541 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: they have to do, you start to get a pretty 542 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: good idea for Yeah, I think that guy can end 543 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: up being a Texan. Then there are guys that you 544 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: listen to. Just listening to them, you go, that's not happening. 545 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: When Deepe brought up a great point Lenon Fournet a 546 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, you just knew that's not it. 547 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: You listen to Sean, you listen to guy like Justin Reid, 548 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: you go, Okay, that could be our kind of guy. 549 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: And that's what the teams are looking for. They're looking 550 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: for our kind of guys. I think one of the 551 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: other major story lines is gonna end up being the 552 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: players that we've been talking about that a lot of 553 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: people have been talking about Odell Beckham Jr. On Bell 554 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: and Antonio Brown. Does anything happen at the combine? Before 555 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: the combine, but those three players on and obviously two 556 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: and being receivers and Levion being a running back, But 557 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 1: the two receivers in particular have made a lot of noise. 558 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: Now they've had a lot of production for the teams, 559 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: but they've also made a lot of noise and teams 560 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: are really it would be curious. I'll be curious to 561 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: see how the teams respond to that. Do we want 562 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: to bring in a guy that could upset our locker room. 563 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about the Texas, I'm talking 564 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: about you know, thirty one other teams as well. Do 565 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: I want to upset this locker room? Is a thirty 566 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: one year old wide receiver who has been at the 567 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: top of his game for so long, but now it 568 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: is thirty one now entering a different locker room. Is 569 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: that what we want for the long term, short term 570 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: and long term? Do we want that? And then the 571 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: Steelers obviously have been committed to trading, But where's the 572 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: best deal going to come from? What kind of deal 573 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: are they're gonna be able to get? Does that start 574 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: to kind of ferret itself out? At the combine, We're 575 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: gonna hear from all the gms. We're gonna hear from 576 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: all the coaches, probably minus one and you know who 577 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: that is. And they've got a lot more on their 578 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: plate as what you guys heard come down today in 579 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: New England. So they've got bigger, bigger fish to fry, 580 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: if you will. But you'll hear from everybody else and 581 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: you'll hear what they have to say with those three 582 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: particular players, And obviously for the Texans, Yo Brian Gain 583 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: and Bill O'Brien. I would imagine within the first couple 584 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: of questions, I'll be asking about your Devion Clowney Tower, 585 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: Matthew Kareem Jackson, a lot of team free agents, and 586 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: then draft needs. That'll all go on as well. All right, 587 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: coming up next, the Voice of the Texans has a 588 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: bone to pick, not with me, but with others to 589 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: that next right here in Texas Axis one, final segment 590 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: of Texas All Access from the Hunday Texans Radio studio. 591 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harrison. I am joined now by 592 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: the Voice of the Texans, Mark Vandimir Mark. Where were 593 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: you when you found out the news about Patriots owner 594 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: robber Craft. I was right in front of you looking 595 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: at my phone and had no idea. I had no 596 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: idea because I was in a meeting. Yeah, I was 597 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: in a meeting with the boss. Yeah. And then I 598 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: come down here and you say, have you looked at 599 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: your phone? I'm like, well, yeah, just to get a message. 600 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: He's like, no, no, no, have you looked at your phone? Everyone? 601 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: So I look at my phone and I did get 602 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: a Twitter notification. It said New England Patriots. I'm like, oh, 603 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: it has something to do with the Patriots. So I 604 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: click on it and I'm like, oh, oh my gosh. 605 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: I mean just that you see in here. Over time 606 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: You're like, I would never, would never have guessed that, right. 607 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: I guess maybe I've gotten old enough now that I'm 608 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: just like, there's nothing on the face of this earth 609 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: ever shocks me anymore, Nothing should ever surprise you, never never, 610 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: I think, you know what, I think this all happen 611 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: kids is the nineties. I think with Clinton and Monica 612 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: Lewinsky that and I know that was a different kind 613 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: of thing than this, but it taught me to never 614 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: be surprised about stuff like this. And then, as far 615 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: as you know, this is a different category. But then 616 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: when we got into the ohs and all the performance 617 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: enhancing drugs stories started to come out about baseball, Remember 618 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: it was unthinkable, you know, when you had the Conseco 619 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: take that I don't know he gave some kind of percentage. 620 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: And then you had Ken Kevin Eddie while the late 621 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: Ken Kevin Eddie saying, I think there's an article in 622 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated. It's saying fifty to ninety percent of the 623 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: players in baseball use performance enhancers, and it was what 624 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: that many And I remember thinking at the time, well, 625 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: now everybody could be accused. And then Lance Armstrong so 626 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: to me, Robert Kraft accused of this solicitation and um, 627 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: I guess a massage parlor or whatever in Palm Beach County, Florida. Uh, 628 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I'm not saying it's no big deal, 629 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: but it shouldn't be a surprise that somebody, anybody, really 630 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: gets caught doing something in this world. I guess you 631 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: know what's changed for me? O J. Yeah, because OJ. 632 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: I mean I knew even in the in the nineties 633 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: that OJ wasn't always a saint. Yeah, but this this 634 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: OJ was beloved. He was beloved. He was he was 635 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: the Hurtz rental car, he was naking gun. He was beloved. 636 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: I mean he did and he did uh NBC sidelines. 637 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: I remember he did in January ninety four. He did 638 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: Florida State in Nebraska in the Orange Bowl. He was 639 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: doing sidelines for that game, which was a tremendous game. 640 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: It is when Bobby Bobbin got his first national championship. 641 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: And I remember him doing the sidelines for that game. 642 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: He was in the booth for Monday Night Football wasn't 643 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: he at some point? Yeah? Yeah, yeah and just o 644 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: G Yeah really yeah, you're right. I mean that's the 645 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: ultimate right there. How do you I mean just not 646 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: comparing Craft to oj people. We're just saying the shock 647 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: prominence sports figures involved in the stories that are less 648 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: than flattering. Let's just put it that way. No doubt 649 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: you were on this morning with the guys that were 650 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: at six ten? How'd that go? Uh? That went? You 651 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: know what? It went weird because they're asking me about 652 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: Clowney and you know, what do you what do you think? 653 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: And what did they do? And look, we all want 654 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: Clowney on the football team, you know, but it's not 655 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: just like plug and play and you just press a 656 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: button and it's done. You know, you don't just break 657 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: the bank for anybody. He's a tremendous player. You know, 658 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: they probably want him back. They just want to do 659 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: it the right way for them and the right way 660 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: for him. And I don't know if they come to 661 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: an agreement. These are two parties that might have different 662 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: ideas about how compensation should work. And then you have 663 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: the franchise tag availability, but the tag doesn't automatically mean 664 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: he shows up opening day either, as we've seen with 665 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: Levion Bell and others. So I just think, you know, 666 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: it's just kind of tough to talk about because I 667 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: love Cloudy and I know you do too. I mean, 668 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: he is such a larger than life literally and figuratively person, 669 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: and you know, I know it didn't start out that great, 670 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: but he's such a wonderful player. You know, he's got 671 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: a smile bigger than the Mississippi River. I mean, he 672 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: walks around the hallway and he always makes me smile 673 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: when I see him. He's one of those guys. So 674 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: I hope they find a way to keep him on 675 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: the football team. I don't know why, well, I don't 676 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: know why. It was yesterday, but yesterday, and I've already 677 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: seen this game twice. I don't know why I decided 678 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: to watch it, but I went back and I was 679 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: watching the coach's film of the Eagles game and started 680 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: at the beginning and just was going through play by play. 681 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: And I don't know if I was really looking for 682 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: anything in particular, but one of the things that did 683 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: stand out that I wanted to watch is I wanted 684 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: to see how Martinez played at guard. How did how 685 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: did he play that day at guard, and I really 686 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: I didn't even get all the way through the game, 687 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: but I did see and there were some there were 688 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: some mistakes. He had a false start at one point, 689 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: but there were times he held up the Fletcher Cox 690 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: just one on one, just held up, held alone and 691 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: playing guard, which is not a position he was familiar with. 692 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: But I watched that, and I was watched at that 693 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: point of the side. I'm just watch everything. You could 694 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: not take your eyes off of him that day, Clowney. 695 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: You could not take your eyes off one of those 696 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: it was, and I'll never forget it because going off 697 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: the going off the field, and the Texans were on 698 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: the far side of the field and so they all 699 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: had to kind of congregate and then moved down our 700 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: sideline to get into the tunnel for our locker room. 701 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: And so I was standing right there and I remember 702 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: seeing him kind of go by and he kind of 703 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: grabbed Anthony Weaver kind of going off the field. He 704 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: kind of grabbed him by his shoulder, and it's like, yeah, 705 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good day. I remember him saying 706 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: something along those lines, and I've kind of stored that 707 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: away and went all right, let's see Mark, he was unbelievable. Yeah, 708 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: I mean he was absolutely unbelievable in that game. The 709 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: things that he was doing, kind of like the way 710 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: he was against Jacksonville on the road earlier in the season, 711 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: like he was against Indianapolis up in Indianapolis. I mean, 712 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: he huge. It was just I can't even I can't 713 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: eve put into words. We've seen him do that throughout 714 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: his career, the three years obviously, you know, the two 715 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: first two years when he was heard I think there 716 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: were a lot of questions of oh, but I said, 717 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: you know, the guys a triple to ask me the 718 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: other day, they asked me about clowning, and I said, look, 719 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: guy came back from microfracture surgery. Yep, he came back 720 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: from micro fracture surgery and on time. Yeah. The fact 721 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 1: that he even got back in twenty fifteen. Yeah, and 722 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: then he had some nagging stuff in twenty fifteen, and 723 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: then he stood in the locker room after on clean 724 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: out day, after the loss of the chiefs of playoff games. 725 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna dominate the league and he has. He's 726 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: just been dominating. And to see against Philadelphia, Mark, I 727 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: can't tell you the number of times that he inside 728 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: move power move, shucked the guy here used his hands, 729 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: drew a holding, a big holding call on the I 730 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: think it was on the It was on the drive. 731 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: It was on the drive right before the half where 732 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: Zach Cuttingham and the attackle on Zach ert right the sideline. 733 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: They had completed a pass down the field and was like, oh, 734 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna kick a field goal. Clowny drew a holding penalty. 735 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: And then this morning it hit me again because we 736 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: posted on our social media channels, we posted our top 737 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: five Texans defensive plays of the year. Yeah, number five, 738 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: Demion Clowney snow Angel sack. Number four is Zach Cuttingham 739 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: his pick six against the Cleveland Browns. But as I'm 740 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: watching that play, I'm realizing Clowney forced it because he 741 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: goes inside Greg Robinson. Robinson has to hold him. Yeah, 742 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: they threw a holding penalty on it. But Baker got 743 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: rid of the ball because he could feel Clowney and 744 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: Zach makes the play and goes for touching him like 745 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: the first you know, two to five, that's one of 746 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: those pressure is better than sacks moments. Yeah, absolutely absolutely, 747 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: And then the other ones were, you know, pick six 748 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: is J Joes and and justin reason of course she 749 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: hadn't put um Kareem Jackson's hit. But it's it really 750 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: is kind of hard to talk about because you go, man, 751 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: there's a mechanism to keep him here with the franchise tag. 752 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: But I want him to come back so badly because 753 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: and I texted a friend of mine, I just said, 754 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: go watch the Philadelphia game. If you ever have any 755 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: questions about Clowney, just go watch it, because he is 756 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: so completely dominating in that game and all the different 757 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: places he's coming from. But he just locked up over 758 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: on the right side against Hullo Pelt and just he 759 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: just went nuts. I'm just impressed. You could say the 760 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: name he did. He did have the penalty on the third. 761 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: Now the ball was the ball, Yeah, I know, the offside. 762 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: He does get those from time to time, sometimes at 763 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 1: inopportune moments, like against the Colts here late in the game. Look, 764 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: you're willing to live with all of that. And I 765 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: think defensively against the Eagles, you know, falls through for 766 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty yards or whatever it was, And 767 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 1: that's not the fault of the pressure or lack thereof. 768 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: I mean, they were getting the ball out fast. They 769 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 1: knew that there was heat in the form of wat 770 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: Clowney and friends getting into the backfield. So they had 771 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: a good game plan going and the Texans didn't deal 772 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 1: with it very well defensively. Had they made that final stop, 773 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: as we said many times, the universe would have changed, 774 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: but significantly. But I just yeah, you're right. I mean, 775 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: you're so good upfront with him. They just need to 776 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: get better on the back end. Get healthy. We talked 777 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 1: about that affiliate game. I don't want to lay all 778 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: that on, you know, the defense. Look, they had three 779 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: corners exit the game because of injuries. That's a lot. 780 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: That was one heck of an afternoon. As I was 781 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: watching that game, I was thinking back to that day. 782 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: It's like forty degrees, the sun was out. It was 783 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,240 Speaker 1: just perfect. They were just teams going back and forth, 784 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: just bobbing haymakers at one another fun afternoon. That game 785 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: was like the loss of the Patriots and the Seahawks, 786 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: the losses in twenty seventeen, although this one was more 787 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: devastating because of what was on the line, and less 788 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,919 Speaker 1: devastating because Watson stays healthy and you know you're gonna 789 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,919 Speaker 1: go to the playoffs eventually anyway, but it was tough 790 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: because of what was on the line or the way 791 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: you lost it. But it was one of those it 792 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: felt like that where you couldn't make the big stop 793 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: at the end. Seattle, New England, Philly Gotta finish. Kyle 794 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: mentioned that to you the Houston Sports Awards. I thought 795 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 1: that was interesting about finishing, and I would imagine that's 796 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: something of Bill O'Brian Brian Gane talking about they did 797 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: it eleven times. They did it eleven times, they were 798 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: able to finish, but they know that everything heightens when 799 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: you get into December and January. The stakes are higher, 800 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: and you know, we look bringing the a game to 801 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: the postseason is something we could talk about for six months, 802 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: So let's just get to that later. But you'll have 803 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: a better postseason situation if you're able to close out 804 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: a game like the Philadelphia Eagles. The other thing we 805 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: talked about was I mentioned position groups, like I've talked 806 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: about it with you, position groups that are attributed as 807 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: position groups of need by national pundits because I knew 808 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: you had you had a bone to pick with some 809 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: national Well, the tight end position, to me is not 810 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 1: a position of need. I'm not saying you can't get 811 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: better at any position, really, but come on, I mean, 812 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: you have a long list of areas where you need 813 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: improvement before you get to tight end. I mean, we 814 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: all want to see what happens in year two with 815 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: Jordan Aikins and Jordan Thomas. They should get better. They 816 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: seem like really good pros. You know, Aikins played professional baseball. 817 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: You know I've seen Thomas around here already. You know 818 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: he's committed to getting better. So let's just go. Let's 819 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: see what you can get out of these guys. And 820 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: I think Ryan Griffin is solid at the very least. Yeah, 821 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you've got I think the one 822 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: thing about those three guys that you didn't have the 823 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: year before was the All State healthy. I mean all 824 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 1: three of them, if I remember correct, we played all 825 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,399 Speaker 1: sixteen games. Wow that now that I'm trying to think, 826 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: I think that's the case. But I mean I could 827 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: be wrong and all that. But you know, again, going 828 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: back to that Philadelphia healthy enough, Jordan Nakens made some 829 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: plays in that game. I mean, obviously makes the big 830 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: catch on third and eleven, but he made some plays 831 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: in that game. I'm really curious to see how he 832 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: Progresses didn't have the two touchdown catches in the preseason 833 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: opener against the Chiefs, and we thought, whoa, Now you 834 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: can get carried away with preseason performances. But that was 835 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: certainly an eye opener. It served notice that he's gonna 836 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 1: be one to watch. But in the end, though, would 837 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 1: you say, and I know he didn't have he didn't 838 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: have a ton of receptions, but in the end, you 839 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: drafted Jordan Nakens and you ended up drafting Jordan Thomas. 840 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 1: To me, they're a net positive, They're in net positive. Yeah. 841 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: I mean, look, Jordan Thomas was learning how to play 842 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: an in line why tight end position, first time really 843 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: in his life. He's doing that, so he's having to 844 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: do that. And there were times, as you would expect, 845 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: there were times it looked pretty good and run. There 846 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 1: were times when we went, Okay, that's got that's got 847 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: to improve. But those two guys, those two rookies, I thought, 848 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: a net positive for sure, right. I mean, the path, 849 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: the blocking aspect of the game is going to be 850 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: huge for Thomas if he could get that together and 851 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,399 Speaker 1: the assignments and just be who they want them or 852 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: who they want him to be in the run block game. 853 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: That is gonna be huge for him because then all 854 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, you're in certain sets where 855 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: it's like the defense thinks, oh yeah, run's coming, and 856 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: he leaked Thomas out and he makes a big play 857 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: for you. Yeah. I mean that's to me, that's that's 858 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,720 Speaker 1: really where you want to go. Receiving wise, Let's see, 859 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 1: I'm my numbers right here. Uh yeah. Ryan Griffin had 860 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: twenty four catches on the season. On the season, Jordan 861 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: had twenty, Jordan Thomas had twenty, and Jordan Nakins had seventeen. 862 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 1: They combined for four touchdowns. Those were all Jordan Thomas's 863 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: my math correct, So twenty four, twenty and seventeen you'd 864 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: like to think now. And I thought about this too, Mark, 865 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: I gotta get that number, Johnny, that group number to eighty. Yeah. 866 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think you're right. Now. This 867 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: is something I thought about the other day. Texas gave 868 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: up sixty two sacks. Right, Yeah, let's say that they 869 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: just cut that number in half, right, just cut the 870 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 1: number in half. Yeah, you've got thirty one more opportunities. 871 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 1: And if Deshaud's at say sixty five to sixty seven 872 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: percent somewhere in that range. You're talking about twenty plus 873 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: more receptions. Now, they're maybe not all going to tight ends, 874 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 1: but maybe that's an Maybe that's an opportunity for the 875 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: tight ends to pick up a little bit more. I 876 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: don't think we're ever gonna see a year again where 877 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna have two tight ends, as long as DeAndre 878 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: Hopkins and Will Fuller and Kick QT are all relatively healthy. 879 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 1: I don't think we'll ever see the two tight ends 880 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: combined for one hundred and one hundred eleven catches or whatever. 881 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: They have wilder year with with CJ and with Ryan. 882 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: I don't think we're ever gonna see that again, because 883 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna have those three guys. So I do agree 884 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: with you. I think you're gonna get to eighty. But 885 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: I thought about that the other day. If you the 886 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: sacks in half, that's thirty one more targets. That's probably 887 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: twenty to twenty five completions somewhere in that realm. Maybe 888 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: about twenty completions. Yeah, spread those out amongst and you 889 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: probably tight ends are probably gonna get eight to ten 890 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: of those, right, So I think that's probably where that's 891 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: gonna come from. So yeah, I'm with you. I think 892 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people just look at it and see, oh, 893 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,240 Speaker 1: the tight ends aren't catching the ball or their numbers 894 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: are down, and Bill O'Brian likes tight ends, and that's 895 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: the math they're doing. They're not looking at it as 896 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: They just devoted draft resources to that position twice last 897 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: year and they still got Ryan griff Well. With CJ retiring, 898 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: they had to start over. The organization had to start 899 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: over at tight end, and that's kind of painful because 900 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen, you were starting over coming off a 901 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: two and fourteen season and you drafted Fedorowitz and you 902 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: had Griffin on the team and you felt like you 903 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: felt pretty good about where they could go in that 904 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: position group, and they did go good places in twenty sixteen. 905 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, they have to continue to get better, obviously improve. 906 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: I love what you just did with the math. If 907 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: you were used the sacks, you have more attempts, You're 908 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: gonna get some completions out of those attempts. I do 909 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: like that methodology. Yeah, I mean that's one that's one 910 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: or two more receptions a game. Yeah, I mean, think 911 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 1: about that. If you're one or two more receptions? How many? 912 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: How many touchdowns to Sean have? If twenty of those completions, 913 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 1: is he gonna get to the magic number of twenty nine? Yes, 914 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: it does, it does. I think next year that's another one. 915 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 1: We haven't done those shows yet. You know, are they 916 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: gonna get to this number? That number? They gotta do it. 917 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: I thought there were a lock. I said, if Watson 918 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: is healthy sixteen games, they are a lock to eclipse 919 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: thirty touchdown passes. And they didn't do it. Well. He 920 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,879 Speaker 1: counted for more touchdowns though, than any Texans quarterback ever 921 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: because he ran, because he ran, and I'm okay with that. 922 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: But I'm okay too as long as it's kind of 923 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: running where you don't get hit along the way badly. 924 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: That was the nice thing to go back to the 925 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: Philly game. Those two touchdowns. Yeah, he cain't get touched, right, 926 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 1: He can get touched on either one, So I'm all 927 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: for that. Obviously, a little larist. So exciting, Johnny. It's 928 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: like doing the play by play, you know, Watson back 929 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: to pass. Just it's exciting. Even in completions can be exciting. 930 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,879 Speaker 1: Remember the Jets game, right that first drive they drive 931 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 1: in a little bit against the third down and I 932 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: can't remember who the official was that night. He blew this. 933 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: He blewed to Shaun down he said he was he 934 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,760 Speaker 1: blew the whistle and said he was stopped. His forward 935 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: progress was stopped. And I just remember thinking, you don't 936 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: know our guy. Yeah, you don't know him, but you 937 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: can get out of Who are you, Scott Foster? Oh, 938 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 1: just kidding, bad name to bring up today, Yeah, after 939 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: what happened on the West coast last night, But I 940 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: believe that you know, when you look at receivers pass 941 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: catchers really, and you brought this up earlier, you know 942 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: they're not getting the balling up. Look, you've got to 943 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: get the ball in order to get your numbers up. 944 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: Like DeAndre Hopkins in twenty sixteen with Oswaller wasn't getting 945 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: the ball enough. Period. You know, his production was down. 946 00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: His productions not down, the connection between quarterback and receiver 947 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: is down. That's what you have to ratchet up in 948 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: order to get those numbers up for DeAndre Hopkins, and 949 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: you did the following year and obviously this past year. 950 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: So for the peeps out there, you're saying, if you 951 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: if you're seeing people mocked tight ends to the Texans. 952 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 1: Forget about to tight end now watch it. I mean 953 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: it could happen, you know when it comes. As we 954 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,800 Speaker 1: found out earlier today what happened Jupiter, Florida, the Draft. 955 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 1: You never say never to anything, anything, anything in this world, 956 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: anything in this world. Mark appreciate it. Thanks Johnny, and 957 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: there it is. The shows in the books. Thanks to Mark, 958 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: Thanks to DP. Thanks to you guys for listening to 959 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: my guys back in the studios at Sports Radio six ten. 960 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: Thank you so much of a great weekend. And we'll 961 00:43:42,920 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: see how Monday. And it's always go Texans.