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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnol over there. He's shaking his head. He can't
Speaker 1: believe that we're gonna start with that today here inside
Speaker 1: the SWBC podcast studio at the Star in Frisco. Mickey
Speaker 1: has just returned from Ford Center, where interviews are being
Speaker 1: conducted as we speak. He's got some breaking news and yes,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys will win the ball game aim on Sunday.
Speaker 1: You want. You want Dak's response to it, Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: there you go. All right? Whoa my boy? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well we found out he wasn't a quiet boy when
Speaker 1: we saw knock. That's right. Yeah, there are no acquire
Speaker 1: boys on hard knocks. You don't make the cut if
Speaker 1: you're acquired boy, don't put that video on. I tried so, Mickey,
Speaker 1: I believe his uh, his exact words were, does it
Speaker 1: put us in a bad spot. Um, he just voiced it,
Speaker 1: and now we got to be accountable for his words.
Speaker 1: So do you want to explain to the masses out
Speaker 1: there who have not heard the breaking news of this
Speaker 1: morning from Mike McCarthy's press conference, Now, that wasn't as
Speaker 1: breaking as what I've got for I know you got
Speaker 1: something else for me. Uh, Mike McCarthy basically, oh, well,
Speaker 1: here you go. We know what people think of us.
Speaker 1: We love that. We're comfortable who we are where we are.
Speaker 1: But I'm excited about what's in front of us because
Speaker 1: you know, we you know, we're gonna win this game.
Speaker 1: I'm confident in that and just you know the prep
Speaker 1: that's going into it. But more importantly, we're gonna you know,
Speaker 1: we want to improve too along the way. So I
Speaker 1: think that's all part about what the challenge of December
Speaker 1: of football gidgeon. So bulletin board material, well, you know
Speaker 1: that's what that is. I think I was gonna head
Speaker 1: there bill material. I would think though that Ron Rivera
Speaker 1: basically said the same thing. We're gonna win this game.
Speaker 1: We're going we're gonna get four straight. So I like
Speaker 1: the way you put it, though it was very honest
Speaker 1: and direct. I know what people think of us, and
Speaker 1: they think that we're soft, they think that we're inconsistent. Uh,
Speaker 1: they think that we're front runners. And of course I
Speaker 1: know that he's especially responding to what they think about
Speaker 1: him personally, because he has been dogged out show in
Speaker 1: and show out in regards to his attitude, his weight,
Speaker 1: the way he looks on the sidelines. They have picked
Speaker 1: up on everything and every mistake that he has made.
Speaker 1: So that's that was a personal comeback to me from
Speaker 1: him to the rest of the world. And when he
Speaker 1: was asked if he was worried about bulletin board material,
Speaker 1: he basically says, I don't spend any time on it.
Speaker 1: I'm focused on the real stuff. And then he said,
Speaker 1: or what am I supposed to say? Boy dude, if
Speaker 1: this is like in the streets, you know, it would
Speaker 1: be a lot of customer trash talking. You know that
Speaker 1: right now, that's this is just street talk. But you
Speaker 1: know in the property setting, because he's out there saying like,
Speaker 1: bring it on, fold, you know what I'm saying, Let's
Speaker 1: do this, right, I mean, that's basically what he's saying.
Speaker 1: I love it. He's throwing the gauntlet down When the
Speaker 1: last time heard the coach say something Jimmy Johnson before
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game in nineteen ninety three, three inch headline,
Speaker 1: you can put it in three inch headline. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was thinking about that today. Did Jimmy know at that
Speaker 1: time when he said that that he would be out
Speaker 1: the door in a couple of months. Jimmy sitting there going,
Speaker 1: you know, no matter what I say, I'm leaving anyway.
Speaker 1: So yeah, no egg on my fast. I think he
Speaker 1: walked out the door. Wasn't that he was kicked out? No? No, yeah,
Speaker 1: no I tried, but he wanted out and Jerry gave
Speaker 1: him this big hoop to jump through and two million dollars.
Speaker 1: So it was so. Now my question is, was that
Speaker 1: on Jerry's Jimmy's mind before that NFC Championship game when
Speaker 1: he said you can put called into Randy Galloway's show
Speaker 1: on w BAP the Thursday night before the game, saying
Speaker 1: you can put it in three inch headlines? I mean,
Speaker 1: will win the ball game? How many hykens later? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And remember he had already flirted with Jacksonville and the Giants.
Speaker 1: Was it? There was? There was two teams that he
Speaker 1: had all already flirted with, so in his mind it
Speaker 1: was a win win situation for him. And now here
Speaker 1: we are talking about it three decades later. Still all right,
Speaker 1: you want to get to the real news of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard did not practice again today, and he said
Speaker 1: it would be a game time decision and basically said
Speaker 1: what he has is a case of plantar fasciitists, which
Speaker 1: is not good. And he even has been told or
Speaker 1: repeated it that you're almost better to tear it than
Speaker 1: to just suffer that. Did he did he not say
Speaker 1: that he tore it? He's that part I didn't hear. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: Michael g I'll just say that Michael Gilkin has tweeted
Speaker 1: that Tony Pollard says he tore his left planter fascia
Speaker 1: during the fifty eight yard touchdown run versus the same Okay,
Speaker 1: and it's really going to be a game time decision,
Speaker 1: is what Pollard is quoted is saying. He said he
Speaker 1: still feels pain from his planter fascia tear. They his
Speaker 1: quote was, they say once you tear it, it actually
Speaker 1: heals better and you don't feel it as much. I'm
Speaker 1: waiting until I get to that point. Okay, so can
Speaker 1: you play on the I hear if it's torn planter
Speaker 1: fashion and you're gonna be a game time pocision. That's better,
Speaker 1: but it's better to tear it. But can you tear
Speaker 1: it instill play? That's my We're gonna find out on
Speaker 1: game time. I wonder what the internet says about it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, I'm sure some doctor. I'll have the
Speaker 1: same doctor, football doctor, the same doctor to diagnosed shoulder.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you the pro football ducks getting tweeted at
Speaker 1: right now. Tell us about a torn planter fascia and
Speaker 1: how quickly Tony Pollard can be back. I did look
Speaker 1: up on some MD dot com. I bet, okay, do
Speaker 1: you want to hear what? Of course? Conspiracy. The injury
Speaker 1: is usually quite painful, and therefore initial treatment is generally
Speaker 1: united towards pain control with ice, crutches, and limited activity.
Speaker 1: As the symptoms begin to settle, often four to ten
Speaker 1: days after the original injury, and the original injury occurred
Speaker 1: seven days ago last Thursday, it may be possible to
Speaker 1: do more weight bearing, provided that stiff sold comfort shoes
Speaker 1: or protective walker boot is used. At this point, gentle
Speaker 1: planter stretching can be done all right fast forward. However,
Speaker 1: what says returned to reasonably normal standing or walking can
Speaker 1: occur relatively quickly in a few weeks. I ain't got
Speaker 1: a fews. However, returned to high levels sports requiring sudden
Speaker 1: change of direction or fifty eight yard touchdown runs explosive
Speaker 1: power through the planter fascio region can be quite prolonged
Speaker 1: in the order of months. Now, we're going to see
Speaker 1: what kind of treatment he can get to get there
Speaker 1: by Sunday, you know, um, I believe four days. I
Speaker 1: believe Russell Maryland was having problems with that one year,
Speaker 1: and they ended up putting a kind of metal uh right,
Speaker 1: shoot right under the ball underneath them too, because it
Speaker 1: is basically a collapse of the arch right right exactly.
Speaker 1: And I remember Pator Craton his rookie year, uh suffered
Speaker 1: the plantar fasciitis in rookie mini camp. And I remember
Speaker 1: he did it the first day. The second day he
Speaker 1: went out there and kind of limped through practice and
Speaker 1: we got done, and I found out what he had
Speaker 1: and I said, how are you doing that? And he goes,
Speaker 1: I'm I was a six seventh round and draft choice.
Speaker 1: He goes Northwest Oklahoma State and he said he and
Speaker 1: he said, and he said, uh, he just threw that
Speaker 1: in there, right there is a state. It was a
Speaker 1: double direction state and m even worse, Northwest Oklahoma State.
Speaker 1: M Oh my god. He said that. Hey, he goes
Speaker 1: Bill Parcels as the coach goes. Remember, I can't pull
Speaker 1: myself out. I think Bill was on this. But was
Speaker 1: that doing the hard knocks thing. I think I saw
Speaker 1: them the news where he was kind of on his case.
Speaker 1: Why are you limping around? You know? He could know.
Speaker 1: You could see that Patrick was was fighting through it,
Speaker 1: and Parcells he was testing him. I think he appreciated
Speaker 1: the effort, but he wasn't happy with the results. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was gonna he was gonna come down hard on absolutely. So.
Speaker 1: So we'll see game time. But Edo Smith probably better
Speaker 1: get ready because Corey Clement. Yeah, I mean he's on
Speaker 1: the roster. You probably need three of them, and so
Speaker 1: I would imagine he's probably a little bit more prepared
Speaker 1: to play in a game than a rookie free agent
Speaker 1: running back. So so these guys they're not practice squad players. Well,
Speaker 1: Edo is on the practice squad right now, but he is,
Speaker 1: as we talked about yesterday, he's played in the league.
Speaker 1: He's been in the league three So then we still
Speaker 1: have two spots. Uh. They there's two spots open because
Speaker 1: they they're gonna place Noah Brown on injured reserve. He's
Speaker 1: got a groin and I think Bill said Bill Mike
Speaker 1: said it was going to be two to three weeks.
Speaker 1: So now they have room to activate both Randy Gregory
Speaker 1: if they want, and Neville Gallum. There you go, and
Speaker 1: that would take up the two spots off the practice squad. Okay,
Speaker 1: as you have eight offensive lineman active, two guys you
Speaker 1: can promote each two guys, right, and Cedric will and
Speaker 1: you said he's ready. He practiced, Yes, he was out
Speaker 1: there practicing. Uh no, Noah Brown, Um no. Well the
Speaker 1: other guys that weren't practicing weren't out there. Um. So
Speaker 1: Wilson started on the chords, but he moved into practice.
Speaker 1: So that was a good sign. It sounds like Donovan
Speaker 1: Wilson is going to be out for a couple more weeks.
Speaker 1: Because somebody asked me today they noticed that Malie Hooker's
Speaker 1: snaps have improved. Is he getting better? And it's like, well,
Speaker 1: Dan Wilson has been out, so somebody had to absorb
Speaker 1: those snaps. Uh, at least powered. When he was doing
Speaker 1: his rehab, he was like dressed like he was going
Speaker 1: to practice. But yeah, I don't believe he did. I
Speaker 1: didn't see see that any indication that he was going
Speaker 1: to Uh. And Ezekiel Elliott was out there, fully dressed
Speaker 1: and ready to go through an entire practice after he
Speaker 1: did his little ride on the stationary bike during Special Team.
Speaker 1: So it is it the training camp Zeke Elliott? Or
Speaker 1: is it a busted knee and ankle? You know? When
Speaker 1: I see him running, he looks fine to me, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's it's a it's a ligament deal
Speaker 1: he's got going, you know. He finally said no, it's
Speaker 1: not a bone bruise. Um, so you know, and he
Speaker 1: keeps pointing out that, you know, and won't get better
Speaker 1: until you get an extended period of rest, but that
Speaker 1: as long as he can warm it up, he's he's
Speaker 1: good to go. So um, we're gonna find out, all right.
Speaker 1: So Mike McCarthy back today, Yes, And but Nishan Wright
Speaker 1: did what's the friday? I think is okay? So back
Speaker 1: in if he so I guess they would have a
Speaker 1: decision to make or on him. I mean, can't let
Speaker 1: me throw it out if he's on COVID reserve. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, what is the protocol on the return to
Speaker 1: the active raw um and how much does the league
Speaker 1: over oversee that? As far as all right, your ten
Speaker 1: is it the ten days and you have to have
Speaker 1: the two negative tests? Or is it just ten days
Speaker 1: and you're you have to be activated at that point?
Speaker 1: You don't have to be activated if you have, because
Speaker 1: you've got to be a symptomactic a symptomatic, right, And
Speaker 1: then what's to keep a team from stashing a guy
Speaker 1: for a weekend thing you test goes to the NFL? Well,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm so, that's what I'm asking. There's no stashing, Okay,
Speaker 1: So he's being tested every day. I would imagine a
Speaker 1: right to get him back on the active roster, right, okay?
Speaker 1: And so once he gets those two negative tests or
Speaker 1: the ten days is past, if he hasn't tested positive again,
Speaker 1: and if he feels well, and if he feels well,
Speaker 1: so there would be the area that would be okay.
Speaker 1: But but I was I was assured that you can't
Speaker 1: fudge putting a guy on COVID and serve right, he's
Speaker 1: not testing positive, right, And that's and that is why
Speaker 1: they have the rule that the practice squad guys can
Speaker 1: come up. Two of them can be activated each week,
Speaker 1: and you can have a COVID call up too. It's
Speaker 1: right free call up after the practice Okay, right, So
Speaker 1: there that's the that's an additional one. If Nshan right,
Speaker 1: I mean, we hope Nashan right is feeling fine and
Speaker 1: he's back tomorrow. And but if he wasn't, then that
Speaker 1: would be another roster spot to oxactly to bring up
Speaker 1: Edo Smith or whoever. Yeah, doesn't have to be the
Speaker 1: same position that the player. And by the way, the
Speaker 1: Wfts have some injury problems also with their thomases out.
Speaker 1: Um right, Chase Young is already out of their safety
Speaker 1: logan No, not logan um Collins, Collins, Landon Collins, I
Speaker 1: think he and someone else are like in concussion Protocoliss
Speaker 1: was in concussion protocol. I think maybe both of them were.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they've got some injury problems. Also, Collins had
Speaker 1: a foot Macy well he did not practice yesterday. Okay,
Speaker 1: hmm okay, So um where one that was very significant. Uh,
Speaker 1: you got sweat out, You've got that's pretty significant when
Speaker 1: you think about how this team lives and breathes. They
Speaker 1: live by defense and toughn Well, the thing is Chase
Speaker 1: Young has been out for three weeks. He tore his
Speaker 1: ACL and they've won every game that he's out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but now you got sweat is out. Yeah, so that
Speaker 1: that kind of just Oh. The other guy didn't need
Speaker 1: concussion protocol was Jamon Davis, good player, a rookie linebacker
Speaker 1: out of Kentucky. He's he's in concussion protocol. He DNPE
Speaker 1: and guard. Yes, guard Wes Schweitzer ankle did not practice
Speaker 1: yesterday either Jam and Davis. Uh. He's he's a very
Speaker 1: explosive player. Loved him in the draft. Uh, he you know,
Speaker 1: he's really he's only been playing about twenty five to
Speaker 1: thirty snaps a game though for him, so um, but
Speaker 1: he's a guy he makes plays all over the field.
Speaker 1: I was just looking the first round. He was nineteenth
Speaker 1: nineteenth overall pick, first round draft pick this year. How
Speaker 1: he for much of the season, he's been playing only
Speaker 1: twenty seven thirty snaps a game, but the last couple
Speaker 1: of games against Seattle and Las Vegas. He was up
Speaker 1: in the mid fifties on his snap can be. They've
Speaker 1: been using him more lately, and it's one of those
Speaker 1: things where he's a rookie probably and they're you know,
Speaker 1: it's a tough thing making that transition. They have four
Speaker 1: defensive linemen first round draft picks. Come, they've got. That's
Speaker 1: what they were known for, their four defensive linemen, I
Speaker 1: believe last year. And Chase Young is out and Montes
Speaker 1: Sweat is out two of those first round I think
Speaker 1: my point is so now the linebacker also was a
Speaker 1: first round pick, right, that's pretty I think they let
Speaker 1: you know where they're going. Yeah, you know with this
Speaker 1: team of this team like the little defense, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they like defense. Yeah. Well here's a here's a
Speaker 1: good one that you'll be interested in. Um. I saw
Speaker 1: in the Washington Times that the wfts are that's what
Speaker 1: you're calling them now, the w Now I call them
Speaker 1: the Washington's. Okay, I'm tired of the w football team. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So they beat the Cowboys both games last year, so
Speaker 1: they're trying to win three straight. The last time they
Speaker 1: beat the Cowboys three consecutive games, Everson Remembers was last
Speaker 1: game in eighty six, both games in eighty seven, though
Speaker 1: one was the strike game that count that counts, and
Speaker 1: then the first game in eighty eight, so they actually
Speaker 1: won four straight, but actually an asterisk, they actually won three. Yeah, three,
Speaker 1: so we could always say I won in fifteen season
Speaker 1: the one win, oh yeah against the datum against was
Speaker 1: so they broke you guys broke the only interception that season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you broke the losing streak the final game or the
Speaker 1: final uh. Yeah, it was the final game in eighty
Speaker 1: eight when Michael Irvin had his kind of coming out
Speaker 1: party game, right, and then you lost the next one,
Speaker 1: and then you beat him in eighty nine from ten,
Speaker 1: uh to end the losing streak at what was it?
Speaker 1: It was it eleven? No, it was nine. I think
Speaker 1: one two, three, four, five six seven. It was eight
Speaker 1: that season. And then the last game of the eighty
Speaker 1: eight season, right nine, yeah, overall yep so and then
Speaker 1: there was one two three, Oh, I can count seven
Speaker 1: straight losses to end the season. That gets so anyway,
Speaker 1: the percentages that told you that we're looking about that
Speaker 1: for I'm the guy. I'm the guy. You're looking at
Speaker 1: pages maybe reality right here, maybe McCarthy was looking reinforced it.
Speaker 1: McCarthy was looking at the percentages and said, well, they're
Speaker 1: not going to beat us three times in a row.
Speaker 1: That didn't happened in forty years. All right, we continue
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Speaker 1: very good, Mickey. In that book that you wrote on
Speaker 1: the rivalry between Dallas and Washington, did you have a
Speaker 1: chapter on that nineteen eighty seven replacement game during the
Speaker 1: strike in eighty seven? No, because we wrote the book
Speaker 1: in the spring of eighty seven. Is that old? Yes man,
Speaker 1: he missed all the good stuff. Yeah, I'll bring it
Speaker 1: down tomorrow. Yeah, you need to copy. What's it called? Uh, Cowboys?
Speaker 1: He wrote the book. Hey, it's a long time I
Speaker 1: got it was the Cowboy Rail to the Red Skin.
Speaker 1: It was cowboboy Skins rivalry twenty Grady twenty gradiest Games,
Speaker 1: Greatest games in history. Oh my god, I looked at
Speaker 1: that little bit. So it was the twenty greatest games
Speaker 1: in history up until nineteen eighty seven, right, and we
Speaker 1: picked ten victories for each team. Okay, it was a
Speaker 1: Washington writer as well, three of Washington than me. You're outnumbered.
Speaker 1: I was you were like, you were like Tom Landry
Speaker 1: and that American Express commercial. All the Redskins were around
Speaker 1: up that one. Do you really have an h swinging doors?
Speaker 1: And do you really think two other writers could agree
Speaker 1: with me? Well? I had to set straight that's right, right?
Speaker 1: And who do you think had to right? Right? The
Speaker 1: opening chapter right, because the Cowboys had the better team
Speaker 1: and the rivalry overall, it wanted to sell books, That's right.
Speaker 1: They wanted to sell books. I like that. What do
Speaker 1: you mean so we're saying that we didn't write the
Speaker 1: first game was a Cowboy victory. It was an overall
Speaker 1: about the rivalry and explaining how it started and the
Speaker 1: best games, but the best and then the next chapters
Speaker 1: the best games I remember from the rivalry though the
Speaker 1: Cowboys won all of them. Yeah right, Yeah, that's true though,
Speaker 1: But you know What's fun games were the one that
Speaker 1: we won't remember any When we interviewed guys, they remembered
Speaker 1: every play during of the victories, and then when you
Speaker 1: asked him about a loss, yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: It was pretty funny. Although although it's pretty consistent too.
Speaker 1: Although Everson seems to remember this replacement game, reason he
Speaker 1: got the details on who the quarterback was for Washington
Speaker 1: was a Union rep. So of course I was extremely upset.
Speaker 1: Such a leader that I am. I got eight nine
Speaker 1: of my guys superstars all crossed over for that game.
Speaker 1: So they were all scared players and who were talking
Speaker 1: about the quarterback Tony Robinson out of tennessee them sca
Speaker 1: it's about that, hey man, That's what they were guys.
Speaker 1: That's not the history that we gotta go for it.
Speaker 1: Tony Robinson's the one that came out of jail to
Speaker 1: lead Washington the victory. It was arrested in Knoxville on
Speaker 1: charges of distributing cocaine, critically damaging his prospects in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Went undrafted in nineteen eighty six, and in the eighty
Speaker 1: seven strike, he played in one game after starting. Replacement
Speaker 1: quarterback ed Rubbert was injured, he led Washington to an
Speaker 1: improbable thirteen to seven win over a Cowboys team that
Speaker 1: featured a number of players who had crossing strike Dandy
Speaker 1: White his role. His role was loosely portrayed by both
Speaker 1: Keanu Reeves and Michael Jason in the two thousand film
Speaker 1: The Replacements. Once again, because the Cowboys were the opponent,
Speaker 1: they were able to make a movie See forget the books. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm right here, my year. I can tell you what
Speaker 1: you want to know in regards to that, Well, you
Speaker 1: asked me, so I just said what I knew off
Speaker 1: of Wikipedia. All right, Mickey, what's on your legal pad today?
Speaker 1: UMFA could be a segment right there that is something
Speaker 1: that did you know? Since we're talking about Everson Walls.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are tied for the NFL lead in receptions
Speaker 1: with I mean interceptions with New England at nineteen. New
Speaker 1: England always seems to have a bunch of and the
Speaker 1: last time seven what's the kid's name, he's amazing. The
Speaker 1: last time the Cowboys had nineteen picks through the first
Speaker 1: twelve games of the year was nineteen ninety nine. If
Speaker 1: you can believe this, they had twenty and they finished
Speaker 1: with twenty four interceptions, and so yeah, the last last
Speaker 1: four games didn't turn out. But but get this, um,
Speaker 1: they had where's my note? That they had eleven guys
Speaker 1: with interceptions that year and and Dexter Cokeley led with four,
Speaker 1: and then there was one, two, three, four guys with
Speaker 1: three when you name them, by the way, four guys
Speaker 1: with three? What year was it ninety nine? No, I
Speaker 1: can't name them, George Tiague, Isael Reese. I thought you
Speaker 1: were gonna say, Dion Sanders and Dwayne Hawthorne. Wow, who
Speaker 1: are these people? Right? So they had Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: a amazing man. But that's let's let you know how
Speaker 1: fleeting your fame is. I mean when I say fame,
Speaker 1: this guy had three interceptions for the Cowboys. No one, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't. I have no idea who two of those
Speaker 1: people are. And they had they done? They dinned the star.
Speaker 1: You don't remember day, especially I don't remember Isael Reese,
Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, was a corner that they turned
Speaker 1: to safety or vice versa. And I'm sure they were
Speaker 1: great players. And Dwayne Hawthorne was kind of a guy,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't bad. You know, the low round draft
Speaker 1: choice or free agent. So this year the nineteen twelve
Speaker 1: of them are by two guys, Digs and Anthony Brown. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: And you mentioned twenty seven for New England. That's J. C. Jackson.
Speaker 1: He's got seven picks for New England. So he's two
Speaker 1: behind Trayvon. I can click and find out for you
Speaker 1: you would like to know, all right? He is from
Speaker 1: uh Florida as well as Riverside Community College and Maryland.
Speaker 1: There you go, well, very good, all right, So yes,
Speaker 1: nine picks for Trayvon. Right now, we got five games
Speaker 1: left in this season? Are we willing to project how
Speaker 1: many Trayvon's gonna wind up with? Eleven? You got eleven,
Speaker 1: he's gonna tie twelve, thirteen. I really want to say
Speaker 1: thirteen when you're looking at what we got five games left,
Speaker 1: five games left. We need these games, so one and
Speaker 1: every time we play well, he has something to do
Speaker 1: with it, you know. His his interception seemed to steady
Speaker 1: us or spark us or save us, you know. So
Speaker 1: one more he ties mel Renfro's yeah, one for ten, ten,
Speaker 1: which famer mel Renfro was the record until Everson came
Speaker 1: around with eleven yea and nine is the most since
Speaker 1: eighty five five? Right, so who did it in eighty five?
Speaker 1: Just ask him some dude, some dude should be Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer. That's right. Just give me ring. We're gonna
Speaker 1: keep working on this, but we're gonna have our weekly Everson.
Speaker 1: We need to sign right here, you know something like
Speaker 1: you know, so, what is more um amazing? Is it
Speaker 1: the or is it the ten sacks by a rookie
Speaker 1: linebacker slash defensive end or is it nine picks by
Speaker 1: a second year cornerback. That's a very good question. It's
Speaker 1: like saying it wasn't more impressive Harvey Martin's twenty plus
Speaker 1: sacks in the season or eleven interceptions in the season.
Speaker 1: I guess I like them. I like that. I kind
Speaker 1: of like that. I like the strength of it all men.
Speaker 1: He looks at me first, of course, eversince again that's
Speaker 1: not me. My snooze is off. But I'm here. I
Speaker 1: thought maybe that was the first drop, the interception, that
Speaker 1: was an add on the football reference that stuff. Man,
Speaker 1: it was a profence. I think I think the picks.
Speaker 1: Are you saying that just because ever since no, no,
Speaker 1: think about it, the picks. No one's had more than
Speaker 1: ten interceptions since he had eleven and that's forty years ago.
Speaker 1: So Sacks, how long did it take d were to
Speaker 1: break hobbies record or the part of it? It's the
Speaker 1: rookie part of it on the sacks, Yeah, but just
Speaker 1: sacks overall, I mean, I mean the interception's overall. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Sacks is a rookie. So DeMarcus ware had eight.
Speaker 1: That was the rookie record from eighty two one. So um,
Speaker 1: I think it's harder to get picks than it is interception.
Speaker 1: I mean, harder to get picks than sacks. I think
Speaker 1: I just love Sacks so much because it helps me
Speaker 1: get picked. Yeah, it's you know, just the release sometimes
Speaker 1: of just like you know, we're done, it's over, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. He got the sack with the
Speaker 1: let's get off the field, you know. And I think
Speaker 1: the violence of it all, the suddenness of it all,
Speaker 1: you know, and the conclusion of it all is just
Speaker 1: to me so violent, you know. That's what I like
Speaker 1: about it. Just Harvey coming around the corn. You you
Speaker 1: remember how fast he used to come to get the
Speaker 1: man because he was in Chicago. Remember how fast he
Speaker 1: used to come around in the corner. I mean, I
Speaker 1: didn't even know much about how they used to dip
Speaker 1: the shoulder. Bob Ward came in with the Asian guy
Speaker 1: who taught us, taught them how they use the sticks
Speaker 1: in the wood and just watching with their hands, and
Speaker 1: I just thought it was amazing watching someone that big
Speaker 1: beat someone even bigger than him, and to get to
Speaker 1: the quarterback like that, that whole sequence, it's pretty exciting,
Speaker 1: it really is. So take like the last interception he
Speaker 1: got in the Saints game. They're playing basically a cover two.
Speaker 1: He's trailing underneath. He's got help over the top, so
Speaker 1: now you can you can take a chance, right, And
Speaker 1: he was right there. Johnny and most guys that's he
Speaker 1: played the cover too. I did the same thing in Buffalo,
Speaker 1: U my rookie year. You gotta get somebody at the top.
Speaker 1: They try to hit that little soft spot. I was
Speaker 1: able enough to face side and get mine. That's the
Speaker 1: tougher move to turn over the other shoulder and get
Speaker 1: it the way he got it. His back, My back
Speaker 1: was to the sideline. He was facing the sideline as
Speaker 1: a receiver. I thought that was very impressive. Of course
Speaker 1: it was a bad pass, but that's We live off
Speaker 1: of bad passes. You just don't want bad passes to
Speaker 1: become completions. I guess I think about how many interceptions
Speaker 1: he would have if if Parsons didn't have ten sacks.
Speaker 1: Jones and knockdown like five of mine. In the second
Speaker 1: he leads the team and knockdown. But I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's cutting into let that pass go. Next time it
Speaker 1: was like get toasted? What were you man? So yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, we continue with more mix shots than just
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Speaker 1: All right, the Cowboys offensive line, is this the first
Speaker 1: time since the season began that all hands are on
Speaker 1: deck for this game? Is that right? Am? I right
Speaker 1: with that? No? Because the first game, Zach Martin, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, since since before the season started, the
Speaker 1: first time all year that they've had they have all
Speaker 1: hands on deck this week. I believe that is crrect.
Speaker 1: Could you say that about the defense too? Uh? If
Speaker 1: indeed Gallimore and Gregory are ready to go. Yes, Brent Urban,
Speaker 1: he's out for the season, right right, so he don't
Speaker 1: He really wasn't a starter though, But what do you
Speaker 1: say about here? It's still that's not all hands on
Speaker 1: deck from the well, I mean from the but but
Speaker 1: my point on the all starting four. But my point
Speaker 1: on the offensive line is that the guys and I'm
Speaker 1: talking the top seven guys that you had to start
Speaker 1: the year, that you were expected to use at some
Speaker 1: point during the season. You got him healthy this week
Speaker 1: for the first time all year. Yes, yeah, because now
Speaker 1: you can you can start if you want to, Marcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence left, Randy Gregory White. You can put uh Neville
Speaker 1: Gallimore at one tackle and I would imagine Watkins or
Speaker 1: Diggi Zoos as the other tackle, and I would imagine
Speaker 1: Watkins is more of a nose tackle, Gallimore is more
Speaker 1: of a three technique. So yeah, And if you think
Speaker 1: about it, even in the season opener, Lawrence hadn't played
Speaker 1: you know, I mean he I mean, he played one game,
Speaker 1: but that opener he hadn't had any contact in training camp. Um.
Speaker 1: I think he got in like maybe forty three snaps
Speaker 1: something like that. That's why he looks yeah, fresh, legs
Speaker 1: and Randy Gregory, if you can believe this or not,
Speaker 1: was starting the first season opener of his career. Think
Speaker 1: about that. Think about Brandy Granny was in the race
Speaker 1: for Za lead well at five before got hurt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so here we are, got these guys back. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: The potential of what we can do with these guys
Speaker 1: is amazing having them on the field at the same time,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping it adds up to what we think it
Speaker 1: adds up to. And then use Micah Parsons however you
Speaker 1: want to use them, right, you can move to Marcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence inside on the nickel and have Parsons be an
Speaker 1: edge rusher. Now you can't, You can't at some point, No, no,
Speaker 1: he's the line. Yeah, and I can have him stand
Speaker 1: up in the middle the way they were doing at
Speaker 1: points with he and Randy. Yeah, what would you do
Speaker 1: with him? What would you put him on the end?
Speaker 1: I would you put him on the end because you
Speaker 1: still have Gregory and and d law Like, man, that's
Speaker 1: that's a good problem. That's a good luxury to have.
Speaker 1: And what kind of problem would that be for you
Speaker 1: if you were the quarterback. I'm looking at like where's
Speaker 1: one one right in front of it? Is he in
Speaker 1: front of me? Is he out to the side. So
Speaker 1: if you coverage, I just I think if we're full strength,
Speaker 1: then I want my two ends being who they are,
Speaker 1: d law and go for for most every day. Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and having him in the middle. You know, but how
Speaker 1: many how many you know, Gregory's been out a month,
Speaker 1: so how many snaps can he get? But you know
Speaker 1: now that you mix in bash him, you're mixing. Chauncey
Speaker 1: gholston Us quote was, uh, you know, he liked being
Speaker 1: at the end, but now he sees it cutting down
Speaker 1: to about you know, ten to to twelve plays and
Speaker 1: maybe maybe a defensive And then because Gregory quite bread
Speaker 1: And then when they asked him where he's playing, he
Speaker 1: goes noon Sunday. He's great, He is absolutely great. How
Speaker 1: about this? Also, you talked about full strength. This dawned
Speaker 1: on me and I asked McCarthy and he had to
Speaker 1: think about it. First. Today was the first padded practice
Speaker 1: they've had in a month. The last padded practice they
Speaker 1: had was heading into the Atlanta game, because he I
Speaker 1: thought it was heading into the Kansas City game. But
Speaker 1: he remembered that they cut back because the next week
Speaker 1: was going to be short, so he lightened up the
Speaker 1: practice that week going into Kansas City, so they didn't
Speaker 1: have one before Thanksgiving, and because of COVID they certainly
Speaker 1: didn't have one before after the Raiders game Atlanta game
Speaker 1: turned out pretty well. Yeah, so maybe practice is important.
Speaker 1: How many more do they have left? How many more?
Speaker 1: They're getting pretty close to the end because you can't
Speaker 1: save like a whole bunch for the last two or
Speaker 1: three Yeah, yeah, vacations. So yeah, and how about this,
Speaker 1: So if you we were talking about history, we went
Speaker 1: back to eighty seven today, thirty years ago was the
Speaker 1: last edition of the Dallas Times Herald really says last
Speaker 1: job you had last Yeah, right, last time you were
Speaker 1: a full time then I had many jobs after that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: November December eighth was the Sunday game against the Saints.
Speaker 1: Congratulations when we found out, Yeah, we found out we
Speaker 1: were without jobs and are after during the game. We
Speaker 1: found out before it started. Is that man Sunday? That's
Speaker 1: pretty cool. And our our little bit of levity was, well,
Speaker 1: if you need another good clip to get a job,
Speaker 1: you better make it today. Ain't gonna be no more.
Speaker 1: The best story today, So you were able to write
Speaker 1: a story that day. There was a there was a
Speaker 1: paper on paper they put the paper. Last edition was
Speaker 1: December ninth. Yeah, okay, yeah, and you still have it.
Speaker 1: I do. I've got several copies. So what would happen
Speaker 1: if you say, you know what, I'm not doing a story.
Speaker 1: I guess it had been okay, right, you just fout
Speaker 1: to pry. But was there any separance? H or? How
Speaker 1: much do were most of the guys paid for? Like
Speaker 1: you know, back then, you didn't get over time, so
Speaker 1: you got days off. You had days, so it paid
Speaker 1: for you. I got to use your vacation, right, that's
Speaker 1: why you say the vacation days. And we did get
Speaker 1: our vacation pay That's why people do this. Man, employee, easy,
Speaker 1: don't come on. Weren't not screwing any value, but nobody
Speaker 1: was celebrating, let me tell you. And I think the
Speaker 1: next day, so that Tuesday we met, I mean we
Speaker 1: had come in. We had to clear out, right. They
Speaker 1: frisked us down the way out too, by the way,
Speaker 1: stealing anything. Lack of computer. Yeah, and the computers we
Speaker 1: had back then were some bulky goofy things, right, They frisked,
Speaker 1: and I remember we all went the pocket calculators. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we all went to the West End for lunch that
Speaker 1: day and it was like one o'clock or two o'clock,
Speaker 1: and the lady goes, you want something to drink and
Speaker 1: everybody's like, yeah, give us Yeah. I think for all
Speaker 1: the years I worked there, I never had a beer
Speaker 1: at during lunch or anything. Right, And it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe you give us two Yeah, absolutely, thirty years ago. Wow,
Speaker 1: time flies, and here I am. When did you start
Speaker 1: working for the Cowboy two thousand? The summer? Yeah, the
Speaker 1: summer of two thousand, Okay, yeah, I was freelancing before that.
Speaker 1: No job was too big or paid too little, and
Speaker 1: he just did it. That's right. And here you are
Speaker 1: digging from the bottom with the rest of us. That's right.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. All right. Well, tomorrow will be a fabulous
Speaker 1: football Friday, as the Cowboys will win. Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go ahead and say it, say it, yep. My pick
Speaker 1: is going to be the Cowboys will gain. That will
Speaker 1: be the only question tomorrow, the answers tomorrow, And by
Speaker 1: the way, hold down one more that from the press
Speaker 1: conference that got buried. McCarthy did put a historical video
Speaker 1: before the team practice this morning. During the team practice
Speaker 1: this morning on the Cowboy Redskins rivalry, she said, he
Speaker 1: thought that was important for them to understand and how
Speaker 1: that how big that game is for the fans up
Speaker 1: there too. Good. Yeah, very good. So he thought that
Speaker 1: was very good. Good lesson. Yeah, that's what happened. You
Speaker 1: have a bunch of young kids on the team, that's right.
Speaker 1: So we'll bring the book down tomorrow, okay, and see
Speaker 1: you tomorrow, Go Cowboys. This has been a production of
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