WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Rivalry Cranking Up 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:05.680 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:13.720 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is Mick 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:17.919 Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:23.160 official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:30.200 and Nicky Spagnola. You can put it in three inch 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:35.800 head lives. We will win the ball yo, baby. Get 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:40.080 Mickey Spagnol over there. He's shaking his head. He can't 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:43.720 believe that we're gonna start with that today here inside 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:48.120 the SWBC podcast studio at the Star in Frisco. Mickey 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:52.480 has just returned from Ford Center, where interviews are being 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:57.800 conducted as we speak. He's got some breaking news and yes, 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:01.120 the Cowboys will win the ball game aim on Sunday. 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:05.559 You want. You want Dak's response to it, Yes, yes, yes, 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:11.279 there you go. All right? Whoa my boy? Right? Yeah, 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:12.959 well we found out he wasn't a quiet boy when 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:16.680 we saw knock. That's right. Yeah, there are no acquire 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:19.800 boys on hard knocks. You don't make the cut if 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:23.080 you're acquired boy, don't put that video on. I tried so, Mickey, 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:30.760 I believe his uh, his exact words were, does it 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:37.440 put us in a bad spot. Um, he just voiced it, 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:40.759 and now we got to be accountable for his words. 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:42.720 So do you want to explain to the masses out 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:44.959 there who have not heard the breaking news of this 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.600 morning from Mike McCarthy's press conference, Now, that wasn't as 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:49.640 breaking as what I've got for I know you got 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:56.000 something else for me. Uh, Mike McCarthy basically, oh, well, 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:01.000 here you go. We know what people think of us. 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:03.800 We love that. We're comfortable who we are where we are. 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:06.240 But I'm excited about what's in front of us because 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:09.079 you know, we you know, we're gonna win this game. 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:11.960 I'm confident in that and just you know the prep 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:15.320 that's going into it. But more importantly, we're gonna you know, 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:17.800 we want to improve too along the way. So I 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:19.960 think that's all part about what the challenge of December 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:24.400 of football gidgeon. So bulletin board material, well, you know 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:27.040 that's what that is. I think I was gonna head 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:31.280 there bill material. I would think though that Ron Rivera 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.920 basically said the same thing. We're gonna win this game. 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:38.280 We're going we're gonna get four straight. So I like 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:41.000 the way you put it, though it was very honest 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.960 and direct. I know what people think of us, and 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:48.320 they think that we're soft, they think that we're inconsistent. Uh, 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:52.280 they think that we're front runners. And of course I 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:56.840 know that he's especially responding to what they think about 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:01.360 him personally, because he has been dogged out show in 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:06.000 and show out in regards to his attitude, his weight, 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:08.680 the way he looks on the sidelines. They have picked 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.800 up on everything and every mistake that he has made. 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.440 So that's that was a personal comeback to me from 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:17.560 him to the rest of the world. And when he 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:20.400 was asked if he was worried about bulletin board material, 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.240 he basically says, I don't spend any time on it. 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:27.720 I'm focused on the real stuff. And then he said, 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:32.000 or what am I supposed to say? Boy dude, if 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:33.920 this is like in the streets, you know, it would 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:35.560 be a lot of customer trash talking. You know that 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:38.000 right now, that's this is just street talk. But you 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:41.040 know in the property setting, because he's out there saying like, 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.280 bring it on, fold, you know what I'm saying, Let's 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:45.560 do this, right, I mean, that's basically what he's saying. 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.040 I love it. He's throwing the gauntlet down When the 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.920 last time heard the coach say something Jimmy Johnson before 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:55.440 the NFC Championship game in nineteen ninety three, three inch headline, 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:58.040 you can put it in three inch headline. Yeah, I 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:02.080 was thinking about that today. Did Jimmy know at that 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.440 time when he said that that he would be out 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:10.480 the door in a couple of months. Jimmy sitting there going, 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.480 you know, no matter what I say, I'm leaving anyway. 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:17.000 So yeah, no egg on my fast. I think he 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.920 walked out the door. Wasn't that he was kicked out? No? No, yeah, 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.680 no I tried, but he wanted out and Jerry gave 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.599 him this big hoop to jump through and two million dollars. 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.080 So it was so. Now my question is, was that 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:35.080 on Jerry's Jimmy's mind before that NFC Championship game when 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:37.560 he said you can put called into Randy Galloway's show 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:41.279 on w BAP the Thursday night before the game, saying 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:44.479 you can put it in three inch headlines? I mean, 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:47.680 will win the ball game? How many hykens later? Yeah? 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:57.440 And remember he had already flirted with Jacksonville and the Giants. 0:04:57.600 --> 0:04:59.640 Was it? There was? There was two teams that he 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.080 had all already flirted with, so in his mind it 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.600 was a win win situation for him. And now here 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:09.920 we are talking about it three decades later. Still all right, 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:11.960 you want to get to the real news of it. Yeah, 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:17.560 Tony Pollard did not practice again today, and he said 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:21.000 it would be a game time decision and basically said 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:25.080 what he has is a case of plantar fasciitists, which 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:29.480 is not good. And he even has been told or 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:33.040 repeated it that you're almost better to tear it than 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.480 to just suffer that. Did he did he not say 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:40.880 that he tore it? He's that part I didn't hear. Okay, Well, 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.440 Michael g I'll just say that Michael Gilkin has tweeted 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:47.840 that Tony Pollard says he tore his left planter fascia 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:51.599 during the fifty eight yard touchdown run versus the same Okay, 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:56.320 and it's really going to be a game time decision, 0:05:56.520 --> 0:06:00.120 is what Pollard is quoted is saying. He said he 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:04.720 still feels pain from his planter fascia tear. They his 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.520 quote was, they say once you tear it, it actually 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.440 heals better and you don't feel it as much. I'm 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.040 waiting until I get to that point. Okay, so can 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:17.400 you play on the I hear if it's torn planter 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.840 fashion and you're gonna be a game time pocision. That's better, 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.800 but it's better to tear it. But can you tear 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.560 it instill play? That's my We're gonna find out on 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:30.560 game time. I wonder what the internet says about it. 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.480 Oh yeah, well, I'm sure some doctor. I'll have the 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:38.880 same doctor, football doctor, the same doctor to diagnosed shoulder. 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.560 I guarantee you the pro football ducks getting tweeted at 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.840 right now. Tell us about a torn planter fascia and 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:48.120 how quickly Tony Pollard can be back. I did look 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:52.160 up on some MD dot com. I bet, okay, do 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:54.920 you want to hear what? Of course? Conspiracy. The injury 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:59.680 is usually quite painful, and therefore initial treatment is generally 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:04.200 united towards pain control with ice, crutches, and limited activity. 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:07.520 As the symptoms begin to settle, often four to ten 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:11.080 days after the original injury, and the original injury occurred 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:15.400 seven days ago last Thursday, it may be possible to 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:20.480 do more weight bearing, provided that stiff sold comfort shoes 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:24.400 or protective walker boot is used. At this point, gentle 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:29.480 planter stretching can be done all right fast forward. However, 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:34.400 what says returned to reasonably normal standing or walking can 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:39.320 occur relatively quickly in a few weeks. I ain't got 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:43.960 a fews. However, returned to high levels sports requiring sudden 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:51.080 change of direction or fifty eight yard touchdown runs explosive 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:55.320 power through the planter fascio region can be quite prolonged 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.320 in the order of months. Now, we're going to see 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:02.440 what kind of treatment he can get to get there 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:10.720 by Sunday, you know, um, I believe four days. I 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:14.200 believe Russell Maryland was having problems with that one year, 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:19.240 and they ended up putting a kind of metal uh right, 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:23.480 shoot right under the ball underneath them too, because it 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.560 is basically a collapse of the arch right right exactly. 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:30.640 And I remember Pator Craton his rookie year, uh suffered 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:36.559 the plantar fasciitis in rookie mini camp. And I remember 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:39.400 he did it the first day. The second day he 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:42.319 went out there and kind of limped through practice and 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.320 we got done, and I found out what he had 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:49.240 and I said, how are you doing that? And he goes, 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:53.800 I'm I was a six seventh round and draft choice. 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:58.520 He goes Northwest Oklahoma State and he said he and 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:03.839 he said, and he said, uh, he just threw that 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:09.559 in there, right there is a state. It was a 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:18.120 double direction state and m even worse, Northwest Oklahoma State. 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:22.320 M Oh my god. He said that. Hey, he goes 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.080 Bill Parcels as the coach goes. Remember, I can't pull 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:27.480 myself out. I think Bill was on this. But was 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:29.280 that doing the hard knocks thing. I think I saw 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.800 them the news where he was kind of on his case. 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.120 Why are you limping around? You know? He could know. 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:37.800 You could see that Patrick was was fighting through it, 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:42.160 and Parcells he was testing him. I think he appreciated 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:45.280 the effort, but he wasn't happy with the results. Yeah, 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:49.319 he was gonna he was gonna come down hard on absolutely. So. 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:54.440 So we'll see game time. But Edo Smith probably better 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:58.839 get ready because Corey Clement. Yeah, I mean he's on 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:03.079 the roster. You probably need three of them, and so 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:07.400 I would imagine he's probably a little bit more prepared 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:09.839 to play in a game than a rookie free agent 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:14.559 running back. So so these guys they're not practice squad players. Well, 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.360 Edo is on the practice squad right now, but he is, 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.360 as we talked about yesterday, he's played in the league. 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:22.080 He's been in the league three So then we still 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:26.880 have two spots. Uh. They there's two spots open because 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:32.080 they they're gonna place Noah Brown on injured reserve. He's 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.000 got a groin and I think Bill said Bill Mike 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:36.880 said it was going to be two to three weeks. 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:44.280 So now they have room to activate both Randy Gregory 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:46.719 if they want, and Neville Gallum. There you go, and 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:53.120 that would take up the two spots off the practice squad. Okay, 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:57.319 as you have eight offensive lineman active, two guys you 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.040 can promote each two guys, right, and Cedric will and 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:03.000 you said he's ready. He practiced, Yes, he was out 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:09.280 there practicing. Uh no, Noah Brown, Um no. Well the 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:14.640 other guys that weren't practicing weren't out there. Um. So 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:18.439 Wilson started on the chords, but he moved into practice. 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.120 So that was a good sign. It sounds like Donovan 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:24.120 Wilson is going to be out for a couple more weeks. 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.720 Because somebody asked me today they noticed that Malie Hooker's 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.720 snaps have improved. Is he getting better? And it's like, well, 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:35.439 Dan Wilson has been out, so somebody had to absorb 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:40.640 those snaps. Uh, at least powered. When he was doing 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.000 his rehab, he was like dressed like he was going 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.400 to practice. But yeah, I don't believe he did. I 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:49.360 didn't see see that any indication that he was going 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:53.880 to Uh. And Ezekiel Elliott was out there, fully dressed 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.640 and ready to go through an entire practice after he 0:11:56.760 --> 0:12:00.680 did his little ride on the stationary bike during Special Team. 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:03.959 So it is it the training camp Zeke Elliott? Or 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.240 is it a busted knee and ankle? You know? When 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:10.559 I see him running, he looks fine to me, uh, 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.400 you know, and it's it's a it's a ligament deal 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:16.760 he's got going, you know. He finally said no, it's 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:20.480 not a bone bruise. Um, so you know, and he 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.240 keeps pointing out that, you know, and won't get better 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:26.400 until you get an extended period of rest, but that 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:28.960 as long as he can warm it up, he's he's 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:33.280 good to go. So um, we're gonna find out, all right. 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:38.040 So Mike McCarthy back today, Yes, And but Nishan Wright 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:42.520 did what's the friday? I think is okay? So back 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:46.400 in if he so I guess they would have a 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:52.200 decision to make or on him. I mean, can't let 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:55.200 me throw it out if he's on COVID reserve. Yeah, 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:59.079 all right, what is the protocol on the return to 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:04.520 the active raw um and how much does the league 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:07.839 over oversee that? As far as all right, your ten 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.800 is it the ten days and you have to have 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.640 the two negative tests? Or is it just ten days 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.800 and you're you have to be activated at that point? 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.960 You don't have to be activated if you have, because 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:24.040 you've got to be a symptomactic a symptomatic, right, And 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:27.560 then what's to keep a team from stashing a guy 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:31.640 for a weekend thing you test goes to the NFL? Well, 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:35.000 that's what I'm so, that's what I'm asking. There's no stashing, Okay, 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:39.360 So he's being tested every day. I would imagine a 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:45.360 right to get him back on the active roster, right, okay? 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:49.760 And so once he gets those two negative tests or 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.880 the ten days is past, if he hasn't tested positive again, 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:55.680 and if he feels well, and if he feels well, 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:59.160 so there would be the area that would be okay. 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:03.079 But but I was I was assured that you can't 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:07.840 fudge putting a guy on COVID and serve right, he's 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:11.160 not testing positive, right, And that's and that is why 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.880 they have the rule that the practice squad guys can 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:18.520 come up. Two of them can be activated each week, 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:22.000 and you can have a COVID call up too. It's 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:26.360 right free call up after the practice Okay, right, So 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.080 there that's the that's an additional one. If Nshan right, 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:31.480 I mean, we hope Nashan right is feeling fine and 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:35.160 he's back tomorrow. And but if he wasn't, then that 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.800 would be another roster spot to oxactly to bring up 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.600 Edo Smith or whoever. Yeah, doesn't have to be the 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.600 same position that the player. And by the way, the 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:51.240 Wfts have some injury problems also with their thomases out. 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:58.880 Um right, Chase Young is already out of their safety 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:05.760 logan No, not logan um Collins, Collins, Landon Collins, I 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:09.440 think he and someone else are like in concussion Protocoliss 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:14.200 was in concussion protocol. I think maybe both of them were. 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.320 So yeah, they've got some injury problems. Also, Collins had 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:23.280 a foot Macy well he did not practice yesterday. Okay, 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:33.040 hmm okay, So um where one that was very significant. Uh, 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.480 you got sweat out, You've got that's pretty significant when 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.520 you think about how this team lives and breathes. They 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.080 live by defense and toughn Well, the thing is Chase 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.680 Young has been out for three weeks. He tore his 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.920 ACL and they've won every game that he's out. Yeah, 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:52.360 but now you got sweat is out. Yeah, so that 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:54.560 that kind of just Oh. The other guy didn't need 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:59.960 concussion protocol was Jamon Davis, good player, a rookie linebacker 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:04.600 out of Kentucky. He's he's in concussion protocol. He DNPE 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:12.440 and guard. Yes, guard Wes Schweitzer ankle did not practice 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:16.880 yesterday either Jam and Davis. Uh. He's he's a very 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:22.240 explosive player. Loved him in the draft. Uh, he you know, 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:26.680 he's really he's only been playing about twenty five to 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:31.720 thirty snaps a game though for him, so um, but 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:34.600 he's a guy he makes plays all over the field. 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:37.800 I was just looking the first round. He was nineteenth 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:41.800 nineteenth overall pick, first round draft pick this year. How 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.760 he for much of the season, he's been playing only 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.720 twenty seven thirty snaps a game, but the last couple 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:50.840 of games against Seattle and Las Vegas. He was up 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.200 in the mid fifties on his snap can be. They've 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.760 been using him more lately, and it's one of those 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:58.080 things where he's a rookie probably and they're you know, 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.520 it's a tough thing making that transition. They have four 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:05.280 defensive linemen first round draft picks. Come, they've got. That's 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:07.879 what they were known for, their four defensive linemen, I 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:10.679 believe last year. And Chase Young is out and Montes 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:13.399 Sweat is out two of those first round I think 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.119 my point is so now the linebacker also was a 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:19.119 first round pick, right, that's pretty I think they let 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:20.840 you know where they're going. Yeah, you know with this 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.119 team of this team like the little defense, Yeah, I 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:27.040 think they like defense. Yeah. Well here's a here's a 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:31.280 good one that you'll be interested in. Um. I saw 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:38.840 in the Washington Times that the wfts are that's what 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:40.879 you're calling them now, the w Now I call them 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:46.560 the Washington's. Okay, I'm tired of the w football team. Yeah. 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:51.800 So they beat the Cowboys both games last year, so 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:55.760 they're trying to win three straight. The last time they 0:17:55.880 --> 0:18:02.080 beat the Cowboys three consecutive games, Everson Remembers was last 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:05.960 game in eighty six, both games in eighty seven, though 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:10.879 one was the strike game that count that counts, and 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.520 then the first game in eighty eight, so they actually 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:19.720 won four straight, but actually an asterisk, they actually won three. Yeah, three, 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:23.320 so we could always say I won in fifteen season 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:27.159 the one win, oh yeah against the datum against was 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:31.840 so they broke you guys broke the only interception that season. Yeah, 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.520 you broke the losing streak the final game or the 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:37.480 final uh. Yeah, it was the final game in eighty 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:39.920 eight when Michael Irvin had his kind of coming out 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:43.440 party game, right, and then you lost the next one, 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:46.480 and then you beat him in eighty nine from ten, 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:50.080 uh to end the losing streak at what was it? 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:52.760 It was it eleven? No, it was nine. I think 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:56.800 one two, three, four, five six seven. It was eight 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:59.040 that season. And then the last game of the eighty 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:03.119 eight season, right nine, yeah, overall yep so and then 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:06.399 there was one two three, Oh, I can count seven 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:09.280 straight losses to end the season. That gets so anyway, 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:11.840 the percentages that told you that we're looking about that 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.359 for I'm the guy. I'm the guy. You're looking at 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:18.960 pages maybe reality right here, maybe McCarthy was looking reinforced it. 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.600 McCarthy was looking at the percentages and said, well, they're 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:24.119 not going to beat us three times in a row. 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:28.800 That didn't happened in forty years. All right, we continue 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:31.960 with more mix Oh. I can't wait to see what 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:34.520 Mickey's got on his legal pad when we come back 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:38.080 on mix shots in just a moment. Hey cowboys fans, 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:41.200 ready to spice up your next watch party, Bring Yokiro 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.280 guacamole and be the game day hero. 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In that book that you wrote on 0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:13.200 the rivalry between Dallas and Washington, did you have a 0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:16.639 chapter on that nineteen eighty seven replacement game during the 0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:19.800 strike in eighty seven? No, because we wrote the book 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:23.760 in the spring of eighty seven. Is that old? Yes man, 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:27.280 he missed all the good stuff. Yeah, I'll bring it 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:33.480 down tomorrow. Yeah, you need to copy. What's it called? Uh, Cowboys? 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:36.480 He wrote the book. Hey, it's a long time I 0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:41.280 got it was the Cowboy Rail to the Red Skin. 0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:46.840 It was cowboboy Skins rivalry twenty Grady twenty gradiest Games, 0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:52.080 Greatest games in history. Oh my god, I looked at 0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:55.879 that little bit. So it was the twenty greatest games 0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:58.680 in history up until nineteen eighty seven, right, and we 0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:02.720 picked ten victories for each team. Okay, it was a 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:08.080 Washington writer as well, three of Washington than me. You're outnumbered. 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:10.600 I was you were like, you were like Tom Landry 0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:16.359 and that American Express commercial. All the Redskins were around 0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:26.479 up that one. Do you really have an h swinging doors? 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:31.119 And do you really think two other writers could agree 0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:38.280 with me? Well? I had to set straight that's right, right? 0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:40.520 And who do you think had to right? Right? The 0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:45.359 opening chapter right, because the Cowboys had the better team 0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:52.280 and the rivalry overall, it wanted to sell books, That's right. 0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:55.159 They wanted to sell books. I like that. What do 0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:58.879 you mean so we're saying that we didn't write the 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:01.920 first game was a Cowboy victory. It was an overall 0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:05.920 about the rivalry and explaining how it started and the 0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:08.800 best games, but the best and then the next chapters 0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:11.680 the best games I remember from the rivalry though the 0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:15.000 Cowboys won all of them. Yeah right, Yeah, that's true though, 0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:17.000 But you know What's fun games were the one that 0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:24.200 we won't remember any When we interviewed guys, they remembered 0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:27.920 every play during of the victories, and then when you 0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:32.880 asked him about a loss, yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:36.560 It was pretty funny. Although although it's pretty consistent too. 0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:40.399 Although Everson seems to remember this replacement game, reason he 0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:43.240 got the details on who the quarterback was for Washington 0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:45.760 was a Union rep. So of course I was extremely upset. 0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:49.360 Such a leader that I am. I got eight nine 0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:52.960 of my guys superstars all crossed over for that game. 0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:56.040 So they were all scared players and who were talking 0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:59.840 about the quarterback Tony Robinson out of tennessee them sca 0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:02.680 it's about that, hey man, That's what they were guys. 0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:05.119 That's not the history that we gotta go for it. 0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:07.680 Tony Robinson's the one that came out of jail to 0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:12.040 lead Washington the victory. It was arrested in Knoxville on 0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:16.840 charges of distributing cocaine, critically damaging his prospects in the NFL. 0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:19.960 Went undrafted in nineteen eighty six, and in the eighty 0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:25.080 seven strike, he played in one game after starting. Replacement 0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:30.320