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Speaker 6: You're gonna have to pack some patience on draft night

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Speaker 6: and that means Paully pre draft pencil neck, Paul Calvic

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Speaker 6: I don't know how he got the night off. Maybe

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Speaker 5: Oh, I am one hundred percent righty to meet the movement.

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Speaker 5: forty eight seventy two hours, only one running back on

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Speaker 6: What other takeaways, Zach, do you have from that?

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Speaker 5: Something that I love? Paul, you discussed how your prediction,

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Speaker 6: No doubt. Well, this is the second time this week

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Speaker 10: Patrick has been very, very special. It doesn't take long

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Speaker 10: And the funny thing about this is one of my

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Speaker 10: I said, he's going to be one of the greatest.

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Speaker 10: He said, what are you talking about? He's that good.

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Speaker 6: As a kid. Say, he always wanted all that smoke.

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Speaker 6: And Patrick Peterson went on to say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: And you know they've heard about him a long time ago.

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Speaker 6: He was there, I mean, there were so many different players,

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Speaker 8: Mister Roy Green. I appreciate you man like no other.

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Speaker 8: You gave me the name the standard, and that's still

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Speaker 6: a need or a want. They have Garrett Williams, who

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Speaker 6: just got better and better in his second season as

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Speaker 6: the season unfolded, one of the highest rated cover corners

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Speaker 6: by Pro Football Focus. I don't know if you saw him,

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Speaker 6: Oh yes, and what he looked like what were some

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Speaker 6: of your impressions watching Garrett Williams for example? Last season Roy.

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Speaker 10: Green confident, he wanted it. You sew his skills. I

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Speaker 10: mean his feet seems always making a play. You know

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Speaker 10: when he as each day came, you know, he started

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Speaker 10: in later on and you know was nicked a little bit,

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Speaker 10: but as he started then he started jumping back in.

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Speaker 10: I mean the first game he came in, I remember

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Speaker 10: everybody was like, who is that guy? You know, he

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Speaker 10: was very very special now said, his feet, his confidence,

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Speaker 10: his technician you know, which is a big big part

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Speaker 10: of for a defensive back is this technicians being a

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Speaker 10: great technical guy. And that is that and I think

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Speaker 10: that he's gonna be very very special.

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Speaker 1: Also.

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Speaker 6: Max Melton obviously high second round pick. Real quick, what

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Speaker 6: do you think is going to be his biggest leap

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Speaker 6: from year one to year two a rookie corner to

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Speaker 6: his second year? What do you think he learned first

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Speaker 6: and foremost last year as a rookie? Max Melton is

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Speaker 6: a corner, a rookie corner in this league. What do

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Speaker 6: you think he learned the most last year?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Well, first and foremost you learn about the league.

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Speaker 10: What it's about you know the things that how to work,

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Speaker 10: what will work, what.

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Speaker 1: Won't you know?

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Speaker 10: Knowing that as far as preparing preparation, they don't realize

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Speaker 10: just how much preparation you need, not just on the field,

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Speaker 10: but in studying.

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Speaker 1: That makes you different between other guys.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna talk two way player next with a great

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Speaker 6: Roy Green.

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Speaker 3: Fact the he was Roy Grant of the in zone

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Speaker 3: six yards nap, He's gonna run it out.

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Speaker 1: He's out to the tenth, turns it.

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Speaker 8: To the left side of the twenty twenty five thirty

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Speaker 8: thirty five morning.

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Speaker 10: He may go all the way.

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Speaker 5: He's at the morning, He's at the tunny, he's.

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Speaker 7: At the ten.

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Speaker 2: He is then for the touchdown Roy Gray around one

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Speaker 2: hundred and.

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Speaker 1: Half the six yards I was waiting for.

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Speaker 10: He called on a pay phone in my dorm and

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Speaker 10: the payphone was on the third floor. Wow, And I

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Speaker 10: was on the second floor. The basketball team was on

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Speaker 10: the third floor. I says, Hey, guys, listen for the

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Speaker 10: phone for me.

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Speaker 1: If it rings, it might be for me.

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Speaker 10: So everybody was on alert. But I did have a distraction.

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Speaker 10: They say you need distractions on draft day. A tornado hit.

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Speaker 10: Are you see a tornado hit that morning, right before

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Speaker 10: the draft, And I'm like, oh God, I worked this hard.

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Speaker 10: I'm not gonna get a chance to go to don't

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Speaker 10: take me down.

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Speaker 6: I'm a tornado. Mann knocked out all the phone service

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Speaker 6: at that point. It's not like there's a cell phone

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Speaker 6: back in the nineteen seventy nine draft. I heard mel

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Speaker 6: Kiper say the other day his first draft, it was

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Speaker 6: nineteen eighty or eighty one. ESPN dumped out for a

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Speaker 6: truck poll, like they weren't even done with round one

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Speaker 6: and they had to go on a truck poll programming,

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Speaker 6: oh man, welcome into the big red range and welcome

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Speaker 6: back here down memory lane with a great Roy Green,

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Speaker 6: Paul Cowvi he ses Zach Gershman in for Ron Wolfley.

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Speaker 6: What else do you remember I mean about draft? I mean,

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Speaker 6: for example, did the Cardinals, the Saint Louis Cardinals at

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Speaker 6: the time, how extensively did they even scout you and

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Speaker 6: meet with you?

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Speaker 10: Well, no one did extensively. I mean, I had, you know,

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Speaker 10: the funny thing when I'm funny. But the only reason

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Speaker 10: people came to see me was my coach called all

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Speaker 10: the teams in the NFL and said, hey, I got

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Speaker 10: a guy you guys need to come and see. And

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Speaker 10: he said in how I believe he believed in me

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Speaker 10: and I love him to death. He said that if

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Speaker 10: this guy can't play, you never have to come back

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Speaker 10: here and watch us play or to scout in the player.

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Speaker 10: And that's may guys believed to come. So, you know,

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Speaker 10: the Cardinals and Cowboys, Jets and a few more teams

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Speaker 10: came and I worked out there, and at that time,

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Speaker 10: you know, there wasn't there combines. A lot of different

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Speaker 10: teams would go and they share what they were doing.

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Speaker 10: Everybody wanted to keep a secret, right right, So especially

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Speaker 10: when I ran at four to three, they were like

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Speaker 10: they didn't want nobody else to know. So, uh yeah,

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Speaker 10: it was It's very different time then. I really love

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Speaker 10: it for sure, But that that tornado was really things

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Speaker 10: shook me up a little bit.

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Speaker 5: So when that phone call did ring in between the

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Speaker 5: thunder and lightning, what was that moment like, because MANI

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Speaker 5: Austin for and Jonathan Gann and we're talking on Wednesday,

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Speaker 5: and they said, just how much that's one of their

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Speaker 5: favorite parts about is when they're able to deliver that call.

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Speaker 5: What was it like to be on the receiving of it?

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Speaker 10: Oh, man, I love the first ball guy goes hey, hey,

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Speaker 10: roy Man. Some guy up there. And he wasn't one

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Speaker 10: of the regular basketball players that was there, because you know,

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Speaker 10: in the basketball player sometimes there was a few of them.

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Speaker 10: The baseball players was up there too because there were

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Speaker 10: so many, I guess more base pro players, and so

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Speaker 10: they had a couple of.

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Speaker 1: Rooms over there.

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Speaker 10: He comes up and says, hey, Roy Green, there's some

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Speaker 10: guy here saying he wants to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: And he says it was some team or something.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, whoa man?

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Speaker 1: And I was going up there.

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Speaker 5: Four to three was put in the.

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Speaker 1: Star get up to that third level.

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Speaker 6: Well, for those who aren't familiar, you're Saint Louis Sports

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Speaker 6: Hall of Fame. The description says, quite simply, Roy Green

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Speaker 6: was the most versatile player of his time in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: For example, three times in nineteen eighty one, you both

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Speaker 6: caught and intercepted a pass in the same game that

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Speaker 6: that is just truly remarkable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: In fact, here's Bruce Arians, former Cardinals head coach, right,

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Speaker 6: and here's what he had to say to you about

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Speaker 6: you and your skill set.

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Speaker 11: Roy Green, Oh heck yeah, man, have fit in any offense.

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Speaker 11: You know, jet streams as good as it gets. Well,

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Speaker 11: he was so versatile. You know, he had that outside speed,

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Speaker 11: but he could play in the slot. He could do

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Speaker 11: a lot of things as tough as nails. I don't

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Speaker 11: know too many young players today that are like him,

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Speaker 11: that had everything, smart, tough, He hit all the things

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Speaker 11: you're looking for in a football player.

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Speaker 6: And as the story goes, Jim Hannafin had you running

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Speaker 6: with the receivers and pretty much you realized, wait a minute,

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Speaker 6: he might be our best receiver. And then boom, a

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Speaker 6: couple of years later, you were a full time receiver

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Speaker 6: and making Pro Bowls. So let me ask you, how

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Speaker 6: realistic is it that Travis Hunter possibly the number two

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Speaker 6: pick in this draft, the Heisman winner, who, according to

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Speaker 6: Travis Hunter, some teams had come in. He comes in

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Speaker 6: for these top thirty visits. They say, go meet with

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Speaker 6: the offensive coaches first. Other teams say, no, go meet

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Speaker 6: with the defensive coaches. First, I mean, how feasible is

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Speaker 6: it he could play both.

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Speaker 10: Spots, Kenny, Yes, no question he can, but for how long?

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Speaker 10: It's very taxing, taxing for sure, and it's tough. I

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Speaker 10: mean not just the physical part. I mean when you

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Speaker 10: look at the whole situation. You know, most players are

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Speaker 10: going to have about fifty five sixty plays, you know,

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Speaker 10: offensively or defensively. But when you go in, guys, you're

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Speaker 10: playing one hundred and some plays. Huh, it kind of

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Speaker 10: makes sense that Wait a minute, he's playing basically two

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Speaker 10: games every time you're playing one. So eventually it's gonna

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Speaker 10: wear you down. And when you're in a game, say

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Speaker 10: when you see guys at the offense, they're going to

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Speaker 10: have play comes back off the field and they're on

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Speaker 10: the sidelenes. Everybody's gathering together and they're talking about making

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Speaker 10: some adjustments and all this. But if you're playing a

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Speaker 10: defense at the time, you don't hear this, you don't

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Speaker 10: make the adjustments. It could be Okay, we're gonna change

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Speaker 10: this call or how we do this. You don't get

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Speaker 10: that when you're on the team, right.

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Speaker 6: It's great point.

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Speaker 10: So it's a very very difficult time, but it's no

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Speaker 10: question that if you come and say, first of all,

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Speaker 10: you got to depend what is he primarily going to be?

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Speaker 10: What is that going to be? I don't know because

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Speaker 10: I haven't seen enough of him whether he's a better

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Speaker 10: receiver or a better cornerback player. But if he's a

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Speaker 10: better cornerback player, I wouldn't even think about offense. It's

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Speaker 10: very very to get a shut down corner. How hard

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Speaker 10: is that to get one? If he is that? Okay,

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Speaker 10: I can find a lot of receivers, but you can't

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Speaker 10: find that that guy that can go all over the

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Speaker 10: field and cover everybody. So that's what I would do

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Speaker 10: and give him a little package of maybe ten twelve

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Speaker 10: plays doing the offensive game.

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Speaker 5: Sir Roy, we talked about the confidence that a cornerback

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Speaker 5: needs to have. Wide receivers have equally as much confidence

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Speaker 5: in a lot of cases, especially when it's those monoy

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Speaker 5: mono matchups. For you being on both sides of it,

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Speaker 5: considering your career, was it what you expected being able

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Speaker 5: to play both sides of the ball, or what was

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Speaker 5: it about it? Maybe now when you reflect on the

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Speaker 5: challenges or the experiences from along the way, what kind

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Speaker 5: of stands out about the ability to play on both sides.

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Speaker 1: Of the ball. The ability of me or for you.

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Speaker 5: When you look back on your career, when you think

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Speaker 5: about those first handful of years when you do have

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Speaker 5: an interception into catching a game, what do you start

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Speaker 5: to think about?

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Speaker 1: I think about my advantage.

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Speaker 10: How did I do it and how did I jump

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Speaker 10: out to do it so quick and be successful? Was

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Speaker 10: the fact first and foremost. I loved it all the

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Speaker 10: way around football, Even before they even talked about me

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Speaker 10: playing on receiver. I would always listen to what the

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Speaker 10: receivers were talking to as we're doing one on one

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Speaker 10: drills or whatever. I listened to what the offensive coach

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Speaker 10: was saying to them. I heard about those things and

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Speaker 10: from when I moved to offense. The fact that I

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Speaker 10: was a defensive player first, because you have so many

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Speaker 10: adjustments to make with defense. The fact that you know

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Speaker 10: what they do on defense made it so so easier

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Speaker 10: for me to go to go to the receiver because

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Speaker 10: of about adjustments. You just go out there and play

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Speaker 10: receiver and had no idea even the rookie Saya receiver

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Speaker 10: comes in. Do you know how much things you got

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Speaker 10: to learn about? Sure, because of the adjustments to make,

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Speaker 10: But I had already knew about that, and I could

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Speaker 10: see how they line up exactly. I knew my adjustments

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Speaker 10: proudly before it. The funny thing is I would play

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Speaker 10: against the walls of the green and they'd be lining

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Speaker 10: up and up tighten all this, and I go just

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Speaker 10: go ahead and back up. Now I know you bailing, buddy.

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Speaker 10: I thought they just laugh, you know. So that's an

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Speaker 10: advantage for you. You know, you got to know as

657
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Speaker 10: much about you can about the about the other side

658
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Speaker 10: of the ball.

659
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Speaker 5: Were you a trash talker on the field.

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Speaker 10: Done?

661
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Speaker 5: Never so, even though you knew what was kind of

662
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 5: going through your opposition's head, that wasn't something that you

663
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Speaker 5: tried to take advantage of in some ways.

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Speaker 10: No, I would say couple things like that, but no,

665
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Speaker 10: it was ne a trash player. You know, it's very

666
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Speaker 10: different different time. You know, particularly for an offensive player.

667
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Speaker 10: You better not be talking trash because then they could

668
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Speaker 10: hit you in the head. I mean, they could punish you.

669
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Speaker 10: Now you see receivers now they do the you know,

670
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Speaker 10: all the things they can do because they know they're safe.

671
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Speaker 10: If you knew you weren't safe, I think it would

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Speaker 10: be a very different.

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Speaker 6: Day when you shank a golf shot. You still blame

674
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Speaker 6: Ronnie Lott, don't you.

675
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Speaker 1: Oh that's the sucker. Yeah, exactly.

676
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Speaker 6: You know what's amazing that seventy nine draft, By the way,

677
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 6: Cardinals took Otis Anderson, absolute freak factor right as the

678
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Speaker 6: running back in first round. Their final pick in round seven.

679
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Speaker 6: Just take a flyer and some guy named Kirk Gibson,

680
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 6: the two time Baseball MVP. Kirk Gibson, who was an

681
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Speaker 6: All American flanker at Michigan State and when he was

682
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Speaker 6: the manager of the d Backs. I remember him telling

683
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Speaker 6: the story. He would work summers while he's going to

684
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Speaker 6: Michigan State. He worked the auto plant. On paycheck Friday,

685
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Speaker 6: he would challenge guys to a race in the parking

686
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Speaker 6: lot because he.

687
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Speaker 5: Could really run.

688
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Speaker 1: Yes he could.

689
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Speaker 6: He was a big dude and nobody could believe he

690
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Speaker 6: could really run. And he took a lot of paychecks

691
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Speaker 6: off a lot of guys on Fridays.

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Speaker 10: Especially a lot of black guys. You know where the

693
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Speaker 10: brother baking No way, Okay, give me my money.

694
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Speaker 6: But speed still kills in this game, doesn't it. Speed

695
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 6: still kills? And Travis Hunter has.

696
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Speaker 10: That it's always an advantage without course, so you man,

697
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 10: there's a defensive back. I don't care who you are,

698
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Speaker 10: how confident you are. The first thing you think about.

699
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Speaker 10: I can't give the big one, you know. And if

700
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Speaker 10: you know a guy can run four to two, four

701
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Speaker 10: to three, you know whoa you know, I better be

702
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 10: ready when this guy comes up. Yeah, it's a very

703
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 10: advantage for the speed. I mean it's great for a coordinator.

704
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 10: It's easy to call plays if you got a guy

705
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Speaker 10: that knows the defense is always worry about this guy

706
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Speaker 10: may get six. You kind of know where they're gonna

707
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 10: roll up. Who's gonna get to single, who's gonna get

708
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 10: to double? Those kinds of things. Yes, speed, as they say,

709
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Speaker 10: speed keells.

710
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Speaker 5: It's why a lot of Whye receivers right now are

711
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 5: mocked to the Cardinals because Matthew Golden of four three forty.

712
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 5: When you have somebody that's able to do I mean

713
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Speaker 5: we're staying in the room with one right now. Paulwin

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Speaker 5: y receiver is able to have that speed. It's attractive.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'll tell you what we're gonna get into this

716
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Speaker 6: next with Marvin Harrison Junior. Intrigued by your thoughts earlier

717
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Speaker 6: that you think he's gonna have a breakout second season.

718
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Speaker 6: I want to get your thoughts on that. And it's

719
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Speaker 6: a good reminder that you can get ready for this

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Speaker 6: year with the latest gear from the Cardinals team shop,

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Speaker 6: And when we come back, guess what we'll get into that.

725
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Speaker 6: What is your two gonna be all about? Roy Jetstring

726
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Speaker 6: Green on this addition to the Big Red Rage presented

727
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Speaker 6: by Santan Ford in Gilbert.

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Speaker 4: Shot Gun Snap Murray It throw a fade right side

729
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Speaker 4: of the end zone.

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Speaker 2: On the money to Marvin Harrison Junior. Touchdown. What a

731
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Speaker 2: throw by Murray.

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Speaker 4: That's his fourth touchdown pass, tying a career high.

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Speaker 7: You can see that coming a mile away, Marvin Harrison

734
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Speaker 7: Junior one on one against the corner, and he went

735
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Speaker 7: ahead and ran the fade and sure enough, Kyler Murray

736
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Speaker 7: put it out there and Marvin Harrison Junior went and

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Speaker 7: got it.

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Speaker 4: Tex Fitz and let him know that Marvin Harrison Junior

739
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Speaker 4: just tied his rookie record that's eight touchdown catches, tying

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Speaker 4: it with Ankwon, Bolden and Larry for most touchdown catches

741
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Speaker 4: by a rookie and team hisstery.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good company right there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt that's a double ding right there. Passion

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Speaker 6: Wolf on the call that was a season finale Marvin

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Speaker 6: Harrison Junior cap in a rookie campaign. Then, in terms

746
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Speaker 6: of the numbers, right up there among the all timers

747
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Speaker 6: in car Litt's history, as we name drop freyd Jetstream

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Speaker 6: Green on this edition of The Big Red Rage, speaking

749
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Speaker 6: all time receivers in Cardinals history. Paul Kelvey, c Zach

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Speaker 6: Gershman in for Wolf, And I mean, let's just let's

751
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Speaker 6: just go around the table here and just give me

752
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Speaker 6: your thoughts on the rookie campaign for Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 6: Because the numbers say one thing. I think the eyeball

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Speaker 6: test says another. And to me, it says there's still

755
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Speaker 6: plenty of upside and production that can be maximized. Would

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Speaker 6: you agree with that.

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Speaker 10: Roy, Yes, I mean I can't even think of or no,

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Speaker 10: but I would probably think that his name his numbers

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Speaker 10: are probably the same.

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Speaker 6: As fits were very close, yes, pretty close, very close.

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Speaker 5: Ye, nearly identical to his father's.

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Speaker 10: Yes, Hall of Fame for Yeah, so l that tells

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Speaker 10: you, you know, but you know he's a rookie. The other

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Speaker 10: thing I think that he should have preseason. You know

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Speaker 10: that two years of play makes a huge difference of

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Speaker 10: your first year. You know, an opportunity. I know, you

767
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Speaker 10: quarterbacks not gonna be there, but that's okay. You don't

768
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Speaker 10: have to really catch balls. But the fact that goal

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Speaker 10: again kind of understanding, you know, going against other guys,

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Speaker 10: you know, your adjustments, all this kind of thing is

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Speaker 10: gonna make you ahead when the first regular season came,

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Speaker 10: So you're always gonna be ahead of what you've done. Secondly, separation,

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Speaker 10: he's got to do a little more about separating his separation,

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Speaker 10: not about his routes. I think he's very impatient on

775
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Speaker 10: some of his routes because you know, when you're young,

776
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Speaker 10: you want to a young guy, Hey, I gotta get open.

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Speaker 10: I gotta get open. But you know you gotta be

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Speaker 10: patient to do that. And like I said, first and foremost,

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Speaker 10: I give him an eighth for this season for sure,

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Speaker 10: but because of the expectations of his ability, but he's

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Speaker 10: capable of doing. He's gonna always go his whole series

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Speaker 10: and say he should have been better, because that's what

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Speaker 10: they do the great.

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Speaker 5: Great And that's exactly what Marvin Harrison Junior said at

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Speaker 5: the end of his rookie season. He said that it

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Speaker 5: wasn't what he expected for it to be. When you

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Speaker 5: have a guy coming in with the standards and the

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Speaker 5: weight of a franchise as a wide receiver, one as

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Speaker 5: you're on your shoulders and you not only have to

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Speaker 5: go up with the legacy of Larry Fitzgerald, the best

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Speaker 5: wide receiver that the Cardinals have had in history, but

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Speaker 5: you also have to go with your Hall of Fame father,

793
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Speaker 5: who you share a name with. There's a lot of pressure.

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Speaker 5: So Marvin could have had one thousand plus yards and

795
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Speaker 5: I'm surest people still would have said it wasn't what

796
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Speaker 5: they would expected for it to be the case. But

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Speaker 5: Marvin is the type of guy. We've heard from many

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Speaker 5: that he's been in the facility nearly every single day.

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Speaker 5: He's hungry and Roy you talked about how that first

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Speaker 5: season for a rookie, they're learning what it's like to

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Speaker 5: be in the league, and then that year two jump Paul,

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Speaker 5: It's interesting what that's actually gonna be like come next year.

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Speaker 6: And look, he was very honest with the media. You know,

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Speaker 6: he said, in hindsight, he would have liked to have

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Speaker 6: played some more preseason reps. He got one series, he

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Speaker 6: got three snaps, didn't get a target. Kyler said recently

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Speaker 6: that Marvin told him, Yeah, that Week one game of Buffalo,

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Speaker 6: that was moving quick. I mean, things definitely slowed down

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Speaker 6: for him over the course of the year. Eight in

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Speaker 6: the season, last two games. He had a pretty good

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Speaker 6: finish to the year. And you know, he told the me,

812
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Speaker 6: I was running some different routes. So I think his

813
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 6: route tree became more polished, became more extensive, and then

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Speaker 6: of course, you know, your chemistry grows with your quarterback

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Speaker 6: and manti Asa for with our Danny Sirek at the

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Speaker 6: combine was talking about that, you know, I mean, look,

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Speaker 6: one plus one asked equal three. When you talk about

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Speaker 6: Kyler and Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think with Kyler and Marv, as with everybody

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Speaker 9: in our you know, our roster as a whole, like

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Speaker 9: everybody's competitive and the goal is to perform at a

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Speaker 9: high level, and those guys they want to do it

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Speaker 9: at a high level all the time, and so you know,

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Speaker 9: I know those guys are working hard. Those guys hooked

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Speaker 9: up on a lot of big plays, a lot of

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Speaker 9: explosive plays, scoring plays, and I know there's more to comment.

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Speaker 9: So I know those two are going to do what

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Speaker 9: it takes, along with the rest of our offense to

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Speaker 9: you know, make us more explosive, make us more multiple,

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Speaker 9: and continue to put our offense in a position.

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Speaker 1: To score points.

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Speaker 6: You know, there's a stat we have cited that when

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Speaker 6: it comes to chunk runs explosive run plays, the Cardinals

834
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Speaker 6: were top five in the league both ten plus and

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Speaker 6: twenty yard runs, but in terms of explosive pass plays,

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Speaker 6: the Cardinals are bottom third roy So there's definitely room

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Speaker 6: for improvement in that category, right the chunk throw.

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Speaker 10: Of course, And you know it should be because you

839
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Speaker 10: just talked about how successful you are running your play

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Speaker 10: actions gotta be yep, way better because of that. Well,

841
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Speaker 10: not have to be, but I would like for it

842
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Speaker 10: to be. And you know, I think things that they're

843
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Speaker 10: gonna you know, because now they take a look at

844
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Speaker 10: what they've done this past season, every play and look

845
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Speaker 10: at it, and they're gonna get some opportunity. No, we're

846
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Speaker 10: gonna get more opportunities. Because of this.

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Speaker 6: There's a there's a popular narrative the Cardinals should add

848
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Speaker 6: a speed receiver to this offense. To everybody, now take

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Speaker 6: the top off, what do you say about that?

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Speaker 10: It's always a plus, baby, It's always a plus. And

851
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Speaker 10: it's very, very easier for the entire offense. You know,

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Speaker 10: my first two years at receiver, everybody had better number

853
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Speaker 10: because you know, they knew that as an opportunity that

854
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 10: you know, I might be over the top. So yeah,

855
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 10: you know, tight ends had more room. Other receivers got

856
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 10: more opportunities. So and you know, with doing that, it

857
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 10: makes tougher for the defenses to defend you also because

858
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Speaker 10: they're thinking about, hey, this guy any place, it might

859
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Speaker 10: be that time he's going. So let's really be very

860
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Speaker 10: careful on what we do defensively.

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Speaker 5: Do I think the Cardinals need to take that speedy

862
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Speaker 5: wide receiver with their sixteenth overall pick, as I kind

863
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Speaker 5: of stated earlier, not to be the case, but just

864
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Speaker 5: to imagine what a speed wide receiver would do for

865
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Speaker 5: this offense. Because you already have Trey McBride, the highest

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Speaker 5: paid tight end in the NFL's history, you know what

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Speaker 5: you're gonna be expecting from Marvin Harrison Junior. In year

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Speaker 5: number two, Michael Wilson showed some flashes in that wide

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Speaker 5: receiver two spot. What is your number three going to

870
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Speaker 5: look like? For him? But if you have a speed

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Speaker 5: wide receiver that could really rounded out while you also

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Speaker 5: have a bull horse running back like James Connor Man Paul,

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Speaker 5: the opportunity and the options for Kyler Murray are truly

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Speaker 5: potentially could be endless. Come twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 6: You know there was a guy, and you remember Roy

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Speaker 6: round three, John Brown, who came in about ten years

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Speaker 6: ago for Bruce Arians and really made an impact. Came

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Speaker 6: in and you know he's sort of an unknown, but

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Speaker 6: he ran a legit four three to one, and you're right,

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Speaker 6: he really did create a lot of opportunity for a

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Speaker 6: lot of other receivers.

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Speaker 5: Correct.

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Speaker 10: Yes, yes, I'm saying it makes a huge difference. It

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Speaker 10: makes it easier for everyone offensively with that question, I

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Speaker 10: wouldn't be upset if they did. But you know, as

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Speaker 10: an offensive player, yeah, get a receiver, get a fast

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Speaker 10: receiving doesn't make easier for me. But as a team player,

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Speaker 10: I think there might be some other places that can

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Speaker 10: help us.

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Speaker 6: From the team here's the other thing of Marvin Harrison Junior,

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Speaker 6: the contested catch, which is so critical in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: Let's face it, Ohio State as an All American I mean,

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Speaker 6: he was so dominant. How often did he have to

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Speaker 6: make a contested catch when he's just schooling guys in college.

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Speaker 6: So I think, you know, how do you how do

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Speaker 6: you learn that in practice? You really don't. You can't

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Speaker 6: practice that way, not in today's NFL. So really, the

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Speaker 6: contested catch you have to learn on the job. And

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Speaker 6: I expect him to be a lot better in that

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Speaker 6: in year two. What's your expectation in that regard?

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Speaker 10: Well, you always get better at what you do. You

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Speaker 10: know at the time, you always do. And because of that,

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Speaker 10: you know, is everyone around him understands and they see

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Speaker 10: him and they hear him that he works, he wants

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Speaker 10: to be better, and because of everything he has and

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Speaker 10: wanting to be better, it's going to be okay.

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Speaker 1: I promise you it's going to be okay.

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Speaker 5: The one thing I hope for with Marvin Harrison Junior

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Speaker 5: when it comes to those contested catches is he had

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Speaker 5: a tendency to try to catch with his body, catch

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Speaker 5: with his chest, and that made it tough because defenders

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Speaker 5: had no problem swatting the ball away because they were

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Speaker 5: waiting for it to get into the into his chest.

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Speaker 5: Marvin's a lanky kid, and if he has the ability

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Speaker 5: to go out and pick the football and ring it

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Speaker 5: in like that way, Roy, how much of a as

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Speaker 5: a wide receiver? The instincts and when you know you

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Speaker 5: have a defensive back on your back right there and

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Speaker 5: that fifty to fifty balls coming your way, is the

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Speaker 5: instincts to just let it go with the body or

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Speaker 5: go out and pick it.

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Speaker 10: You know, the toughest catch there is people may not

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Speaker 10: believe is the one right in the middle, because as

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Speaker 10: a receiver, you know, when it's above your waist, your

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Speaker 10: hands are gonna be up. When it's below there, your

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Speaker 10: hands is gonna be under. But when it's right there,

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Speaker 10: guys started to think, oh is it over under? That's

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Speaker 10: where the mistake comes.

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Speaker 6: Makes a lot of sense. That's a guy who's been

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Speaker 6: there and done that in a glorious career. His name

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Speaker 6: is up on the stadium for a reason. In the

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Speaker 6: Ring of honor. Roy, we really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, hey, thank you guys. We really appreciate it.

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Speaker 10: But make sure that Marvin better give my granddaughter Mariah

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Speaker 10: a jersey because been one one full of rock.

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Speaker 1: That's good. That's right.

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Speaker 6: And go to the Cardinals team shop because they are

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