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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Yeah, welcome back to the Drive.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson and Matt. We

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Speaker 1: had four count of four walk off wins in the

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Speaker 1: Content Division around this weekend and I wanted to focus

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Speaker 1: on one game specifically. Um that is the blueprint for

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Speaker 1: the Steelers moving forward. I'm interested what you say here

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Speaker 1: San Francisco. Forty Niners go into green Bay. There's no

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Speaker 1: worse throughout the game. Yeah, you know, no way fans

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Speaker 1: or butts about it, but you can still green Bay's

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Speaker 1: first time playing in You can playing defense and running

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Speaker 1: the football in the NFL special team and special teams

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Speaker 1: special tea. That was a difference in the game. Scored

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Speaker 1: on special teams. But their defense was awesome too. Not

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Speaker 1: taking any away from the Packers, I thought the Packers

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Speaker 1: played a really good defensive game plan as well. We

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Speaker 1: could be looking at the but second time in three

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Speaker 1: years that Jimmy Garoppolo goes to the Super Bowl. You know,

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Speaker 1: I mean he was eleven of nineteen for a hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty one yards in an interception in that game.

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Speaker 1: It could have had two more easily could have had

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Speaker 1: two more. When people say that you can't compete, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think that's where we're going with it

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Speaker 1: with with it being averaged even below average at quarterback. Well,

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Speaker 1: yes you can if you play good defense, you're good

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Speaker 1: on special games, and you can run the football, and

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Speaker 1: you can run football, right, And the Niners had struggles

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Speaker 1: with the third portion of that yesterday because it was

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Speaker 1: a low scoring, very good defensive game. Footing was not great. No,

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Speaker 1: footing wasn't great. Um, a lot of schemes stuff there

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Speaker 1: with their run game, but a lot of big explosive

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Speaker 1: weapons on offense. Their defense has really come along. Well,

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Speaker 1: they had one offensive play in that game over twenty yards.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't surprise me one. Yeah, and they won the

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Speaker 1: football game against the package Aaron Rodgers on the road. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: first off, everyone's gonna kill Rogers. He can't win playoff games.

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Speaker 1: He's overrated. I don't really see it that way. I

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Speaker 1: didn't think he played poorly. Um was he a dominant player?

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Speaker 1: It's ten points enough, you know, just on the quarterback. No,

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Speaker 1: But and the Niners had their number. I mean you

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Speaker 1: can kind of look at that and say, well, if

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Speaker 1: Aaron Jones just runs straight down the field. He probably

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Speaker 1: then the field goal doesn't get blocked. You know, you

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Speaker 1: know this stuff all matters to absolutely no. I do

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Speaker 1: think the Niners are a good example of you know,

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Speaker 1: what the what the Steelers should strive to be next year,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean I also said, I wrote something

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Speaker 1: over the weekend and said, if you look at the

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Speaker 1: Titans are almost the same team, and their quarterback killed

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Speaker 1: him in my opinion, but they had nine sacks, real quick,

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Speaker 1: nine Niners. Bengals. You sack the opponent nine times and

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Speaker 1: pretty much every time he dropped back he got hit.

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Speaker 1: It felt like you got pretty good day running the ball,

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Speaker 1: even though Henry didn't really look like Henry, but the

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Speaker 1: combination of him and Foreman created like thirty yards on

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Speaker 1: a big, big number you should win. That game was

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Speaker 1: fifteen two yards, one touchdown at three interceptions. The bad

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Speaker 1: decisions killed the team. Now, I'm not getting anyway away

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Speaker 1: from the Bengals. I thought they were the better team

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Speaker 1: and they're impressive. I mean, I didn't think that the

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Speaker 1: last interset was necessarily on Tanny Hill. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: a ball that could have been caught. It wasn't caught.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you could look at this. He threw to a

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Speaker 1: guy that was you know, covered pretty well, and the

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Speaker 1: made you know, he wasn't great in that game. But

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Speaker 1: they were in for a hundred forty yards and they

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Speaker 1: very much dominated up front with a four man pass rush. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think we've heard that here before too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's a great recipe. It's a great starting point for

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Speaker 1: keeping games close and playing the way you want. And

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Speaker 1: you know, hiding is a strong and too strong a word,

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Speaker 1: making life a little easier on them, not relying on them.

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Speaker 1: Rarely are you going to have a situation where it's okay.

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Speaker 1: Last night it felt like it was Spiderman verse Superman

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Speaker 1: or four versu the Hall. Yeah, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: there was a different, different animal this was. This was

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Speaker 1: the conversation is can a Niners like or Titans like

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Speaker 1: I would rather have my homes. Yeah, I mean that's

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Speaker 1: obviously everybody would rather have that Trump card. But there's

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Speaker 1: four of them in the world. That's the problem. Right,

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Speaker 1: And then I'm a hundred then certain that every Super

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think there will be some like the Broncos,

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Speaker 1: Niners getting there two years or whatever getting there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: these are these are situations where those are not great

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Speaker 1: super Bowl. We saw We've seen the steel Landing was

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Speaker 1: a bad quarterback. We've seen it. Yeah, we've seen it

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Speaker 1: with the Steelers with Neil o'donnald getting to a super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers were knocking on the door a number of

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Speaker 1: those years getting to a a f C Championship games

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Speaker 1: so you can get there without having outstanding quarterback play, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the other things need to be button up.

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Speaker 1: You can't. Like the Packers are a good example. I

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Speaker 1: mean players this year, I mean in but I didn't

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Speaker 1: study their special teams tape this year, but they were

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Speaker 1: You know, like I've showed up. I do believe that

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, probably in all sports, but certainly in football,

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Speaker 1: there's no football better. If there's something you're bad at,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna show up. That doesn't mean it's gonna eliminate you,

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Speaker 1: but it's gonna show up. You're not gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to say we're crappy on special teams. I hope no

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Speaker 1: one notices, you know what I mean. And the Niners

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Speaker 1: weren't special. After they've got seventeen games to to look

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Speaker 1: at you, it's gonna show up. A good coach, a

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Speaker 1: good team is gonna find it throughout your playoff run

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Speaker 1: all respect to all the winners yesterday, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of lucky the game. You know, some of It's is simple.

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Speaker 1: Is who wins a coin flip in Kansas City? You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? You know, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: we think the Bills are a lesser team. Neither one

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks had both figured you you shot all your bullets

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Speaker 1: on defense, we know everything, and the pass rushers aren't

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Speaker 1: They're too tired. I even told my son, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: of course this coin flip is gonna determine the game.

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Speaker 1: But to take it a step further, whoever wins this

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Speaker 1: coin flip, I promise you, if it's fourth and twenty

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Speaker 1: on the six yard line, they're not even gonna kick

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be no more kicks in this game whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: Whoever's gonna win it is going to either score or die.

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Speaker 1: Try and be because they're not handing it. The other

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Speaker 1: you know what, Right, that's just you know, they know

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Speaker 1: dominant on the other right. And that's that's the reality

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Speaker 1: But at some point you give them eight first half possessions,

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Speaker 1: He's gonna start figuring things out, right. And I still

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Speaker 1: think that's true for the non dominant quarterbacks as well.

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean, if you allow the Niners or

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Speaker 1: and run the football, by the end, you're just gashed

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Speaker 1: in a different way. You know, you're losing to Derrick

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Speaker 1: the beauty of playing that way is you you give

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Speaker 1: them ma Homes and reads and Allan's and day balls,

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Speaker 1: fewer bites at the apple to learn, you know, to

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Speaker 1: find your weaknesses, you know what I mean. Because the

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Speaker 1: defense is I've been saying all year, I think fourth

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Speaker 1: Defense is dead. You can't do it in today's NFL.

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Speaker 1: It just it's imposed Aaron Donald, Watt Garrett. It's dead

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Speaker 1: offense screws up. Yeah, that's just the reality of the

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Speaker 1: and that matters too, because if you can't you can't

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Speaker 1: a long way towards fixing the run defense. The history

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Speaker 1: rush the passer like they rushed the password, that is

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Speaker 1: the dawnatime, and as much now as ever, especially with

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Speaker 1: the pass rush. Yeah, you know, the pass rush isn't

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Speaker 1: going away. And if they can start to run the

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Speaker 1: football and control the clock a little bit better, sure

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Speaker 1: we're gonna make the next quarterbacks life a lot easier.

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Speaker 1: And I don't care who the quarterback is all right

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Speaker 1: on as much. Jimmy Garoppolo is is average is a

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Speaker 1: plate of grits playing grits sitting in front of me.

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Speaker 1: I know your thoughts on them and mine aren't much different,

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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. And I've soured on him more

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Speaker 1: and more as I watch them, And frankly, I'm watching

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Speaker 1: that game, going well, I hope he's not. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: wins a ton of game. Is he any different? And

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Speaker 1: I know there's he's got more experience. Mason Rudolph and

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Speaker 1: Jimmy dude, right, they're all probably on the same, They're

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Speaker 1: the same, dude. I mean, when Jimmy's hot, he's way better.

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Speaker 1: But he's there's always going to be a stretch where

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Speaker 1: his low points are probably lower than what Mason's will

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Speaker 1: It's not even closed, right. A playoff win does not

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Speaker 1: It's the Steelers by like fifteen years. It's been an

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of there's the stats are in stats

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Speaker 1: are lies or damn lies or whatever? That's damn lies

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Speaker 1: and statistics right, right, I mean you can make them

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Speaker 1: You can tweak them. Yeah. Um, but I just look

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Speaker 1: a It's the team that I've covered for the last

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Speaker 1: twenty eight years. I've seen this work. I'm gonna trust

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Speaker 1: majority of Again, you know, i just finished my season

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Speaker 1: covering the NFL, and I've seen three losses. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that there are three losing seasons. Yeah right,

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Speaker 1: that's not been a long time since you've seen one period.

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Speaker 1: Could there be a lean year here, absolutely, I've covered

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Speaker 1: those two, right, But they stocked with the process. You know,

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Speaker 1: Fanica's and the you know when they were bad, and

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Speaker 1: you know, those drafts yielded some pretty good prospects. People wonderful,

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Speaker 1: how did the Bengals look at the Bengals they got

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and Jumar Chase. Yeah, because they stunk. That's

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Speaker 1: what's amazing to me about the again, totally flipping the

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Speaker 1: gonna pick in the top five every year, and some

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Speaker 1: to show some progress here, come on, something's gonna change.

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Speaker 1: The league is handing you gifts after gifts, and these

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Speaker 1: guys aren't even expensive, you know, and you're doing nothing

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Speaker 1: with it. That was the Browns for years. That was

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guarantee if you gave he gave Kevin

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Speaker 1: next two years, I don't even know who's coming out,

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Speaker 1: there'll be the team to beat in two thousand twenty

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Speaker 1: six or whatever. They won't miss on those guys, right,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna capitalize around them, and they'll build a

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Speaker 1: team perfectly for him, you know, right, yeah, and he

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Speaker 1: was gonna take a break. He is Matt Williams and

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lally. You're listening to the drive here

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right

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Speaker 1: after this