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Speaker 2: We weren't able to bring a studio audience in to
Speaker 2: watch the show, and a lot of people have asked
Speaker 2: about that. We're at a great place for pickleball, the
Speaker 2: Exchange in New Orleans and the Dan Nets. They decided
Speaker 2: that they wanted to have a match coming up and
Speaker 2: it's gonna be front row, back row. So it's it's
Speaker 2: Marvin and Paul versus Fritzy and Setan, and they're going
Speaker 2: to play later on today. And I had the odds
Speaker 2: to win the match here. So Seaton and Todd right
Speaker 2: now are favored. Seton and Todd are favored. H Todd
Speaker 2: yesterday banging around a little bit and you you had
Speaker 2: some had some skill, but they enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: You, of course played tennis in high school.
Speaker 4: I was back up to the second doubles.
Speaker 5: So if the last player on second doubles was hurt
Speaker 5: or sick or whatever, they might give me the chance
Speaker 5: to get up there.
Speaker 3: That would make you the third I don't think there
Speaker 3: was third doubles.
Speaker 5: It was like you sit there and we'll let you
Speaker 5: know if everybody else can't play, you know, and then
Speaker 5: they're actually, I'm not even joking. Some kid pulled up
Speaker 5: like in a wheelchair from one of the other high
Speaker 5: schools and he's like, you know, and they didn't even
Speaker 5: guarantee me I was gonna play in that match.
Speaker 4: I was like, we may go to you here. So
Speaker 4: one month you give fred Fred over there from Lafayette.
Speaker 3: High School in the wheelchair area.
Speaker 6: Is oh, that okay?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 6: Lit offend.
Speaker 7: You know what's funny is that, for like the last
Speaker 7: almost twenty years, we've done nothing but make fun of
Speaker 7: Todd's alleged tennis career until today where it's like, well, yeah,
Speaker 7: but Todd played tennis, so of course he's gonna be good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Wow, all of a sudden, Todd's a tennis player. Before that,
Speaker 7: he's a guy who never played sports.
Speaker 4: The last guy shared the story, it might be a
Speaker 4: pick him.
Speaker 7: Now, yeah, no, no, no, your favorite, Well Todd is
Speaker 7: a tennis you're.
Speaker 5: I was on the tennis team and I got a
Speaker 5: couple of trips base on what everyone else accomplished.
Speaker 2: I watched the athleticism of the other guys. I think
Speaker 2: you're ahead of the game.
Speaker 5: I'm battling some plantar fasciatas. I don't want to make excuses,
Speaker 5: but both my heels hurt a lot.
Speaker 3: What injury will be sustained?
Speaker 2: First, I got the odds are knee, achilles or ankle, hamstring, hip, arm, slash, elbow.
Speaker 3: I don't really care for this one. Gotta admit odds.
Speaker 2: To score first point, Seaton, You're the big winner there.
Speaker 2: I'll take that UH player to miss the ball or
Speaker 2: hit the ball out of play or into the net
Speaker 2: the most.
Speaker 3: Congratulations Paulie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't even call that one over under excuses
Speaker 2: complaints in the match four and a half.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm going over with that.
Speaker 2: But these are the odds. The back room guys came
Speaker 2: up with the odds.
Speaker 7: We've already had that in just this segment we're not playing.
Speaker 7: We're at at least five yes to their chair.
Speaker 4: Ump or rep. I didn't notice that.
Speaker 5: I was watching other people play that were very into
Speaker 5: their pickleball, and I guess it's just kind of gentlemen's
Speaker 5: rules as far as you know, if there's an argument
Speaker 5: about a call, Yeah, we just kind of work out
Speaker 5: against themselves.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be the headlinesman.
Speaker 7: Yes, Yes, there was a moment yesterday where we were
Speaker 7: practicing a little bit and it took like thirty seconds.
Speaker 7: So I was like, oh, we got this. This is easy,
Speaker 7: you know. And we're playing. And then the coach here,
Speaker 7: the pro was like, okay, but you're supposed to do
Speaker 7: it like ten feet apart from each other. We were
Speaker 7: playing the game like it was tennis, you know, like
Speaker 7: spread out all the way. Okay, but you're supposed to
Speaker 7: be like right up on the net doing it.
Speaker 5: Which I still plan to play exactly like I said,
Speaker 5: take my chances.
Speaker 4: And someone says, you were in the kitchen. You were
Speaker 4: in the bedroom. Why were you doing that in the den?
Speaker 3: No, it's all in the living room.
Speaker 4: You gotta let it bounce. You can't go into the
Speaker 4: dining room and hit.
Speaker 3: Us the kitchen. That's it, cool man.
Speaker 4: I think her name was Muriel.
Speaker 6: She came over to me.
Speaker 4: You've never played before.
Speaker 8: You were dinking in the laundry room.
Speaker 3: Oh, you guys.
Speaker 4: Don't understand the rules. Okay, Muriel, two bounces. Murial.
Speaker 3: I don't remember seeing Muriel, but.
Speaker 4: She was there with Gloria and they would Sadie. They
Speaker 4: were all there.
Speaker 5: They were looking and they're like they came in from
Speaker 5: Palm Beach to play a pickleball with us.
Speaker 6: I know what's going on.
Speaker 8: Yes, I like Todd's doing every old pick a ball stereotype.
Speaker 8: If that's the thing.
Speaker 9: Everyone here that we've seen playing is like twenty three
Speaker 9: years old, hit jack. Every guy looks like a Kwon
Speaker 9: Bold and there's some tough football player.
Speaker 2: Yeah, James Winston plays here. Uh, Cam Jordan plays here.
Speaker 4: Dunlevy came by the chat with you.
Speaker 6: How about that.
Speaker 2: Mike dun Levy Senior. Mike dunley Vy senior came in.
Speaker 2: He plays pickleball five days a week.
Speaker 8: A little bit of a social scene around here.
Speaker 3: It was yeah, like if I'm single, yeah, I'm picking
Speaker 3: up a rock.
Speaker 7: That's why I started to figure it out a little
Speaker 7: bit this. I was like, oh wait a minute, I
Speaker 7: think I know what's going on here. They got a
Speaker 7: bar here, yeah, they got two. Oh see, that's why
Speaker 7: this place is so cud ready. Yeah yeah, hun, I'm
Speaker 7: gonna go play pickleball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so be back one, let's just go grab a drink.
Speaker 5: Okay, yes, but they're right, boy, I got the stereotypes
Speaker 5: all wrong. I thought pickleball was one type of group where, like,
Speaker 5: you know, the seventy to ninety crowd or.
Speaker 4: Something like that. Oh my back, I give lest next
Speaker 4: point wins like hint, I got four o'clock dinner.
Speaker 6: It's not like that, who says oi?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah here?
Speaker 1: Oh so human?
Speaker 4: Maybe not here, but that's what I pictured pick a
Speaker 4: ball today, I can't, Hi.
Speaker 3: Do you think it's like, you know, shuffle board or something
Speaker 3: where it's.
Speaker 4: Activity you can do. It's the last thing you do
Speaker 4: before your bedridden. That's what I thought it was.
Speaker 2: But it's not that long, all right, So we'll have
Speaker 2: that for you a little bit later on today the
Speaker 2: match it's Todd and Seaton versus Marv and Paulie.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's is your point system about Laura?
Speaker 5: No, I'm curious, like, how do you were favored by?
Speaker 5: Is it two and a half points?
Speaker 6: Is it? What is the number?
Speaker 4: How does the how do they say pickleball's points?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we were about that later. All right, we
Speaker 3: got a show to do.
Speaker 2: You know him as the top NFL reporter for the
Speaker 2: Monday Morning Quarterback. He's borderline a member of this show
Speaker 2: at this point. He is the Monday Morning Quarterback. He's
Speaker 2: Albert Breer who joins us on the program. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 2: what like, are you going surfingers like you got you
Speaker 2: got camo shorts on, like you got stocks.
Speaker 6: It's my my casual look this morning.
Speaker 3: It's like you're you're.
Speaker 2: Picking up the baton from Peter King the way he
Speaker 2: used to dress. Peter would wear the shortest of shorts.
Speaker 6: I'm constantly in his shadow.
Speaker 10: I guess yeah, I uh I, I messed up the
Speaker 10: time zone and so like that that that has that
Speaker 10: that contributed to my to the state I'm in.
Speaker 2: Right now, Okay, Central time you got stowed up a
Speaker 2: little bit, still adjusting.
Speaker 6: Oh so you would have had something like, well, no,
Speaker 6: I messed up.
Speaker 10: I messed up some of the timing as as Todd knows,
Speaker 10: and yeah, it was uh I'm here though, I'm here
Speaker 10: all right.
Speaker 2: So how surprised were you with the Miles Garrett trade request.
Speaker 10: I'm not shocked because these things like have happened over
Speaker 10: the last ten years.
Speaker 6: I think the dynamic in the NFL has changed.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 6: What's really interesting about it to me is like that
Speaker 6: he went public the way that he did.
Speaker 10: Which sort of tells you the truth, which the truth
Speaker 10: is that their request has been in and the idea
Speaker 10: of going public is that he's frustrated that they're not
Speaker 10: accommodating him, and so you know, I think what going
Speaker 10: public does for him now is it puts him in
Speaker 10: a position to put or puts the Browns in a
Speaker 10: position where they don't have to pick up the phone
Speaker 10: at all. They can say, we're not We're not changing
Speaker 10: our position. We are we are, but collegs are.
Speaker 6: Going to come in.
Speaker 10: You know, obviously he is what he is, which is probably,
Speaker 10: I don't know, one of the top five or so
Speaker 10: defensive players of the last decade.
Speaker 3: So what's he worth?
Speaker 10: I think the baselines that is two first round picks.
Speaker 10: So I think you go started that number and then
Speaker 10: go from there. It's what Jalen Ramsey got, It's what
Speaker 10: Laramie Tunsel got. Now, I think, you know, you got
Speaker 10: to do something to get the Browns attention. So maybe
Speaker 10: it winds up being more than that. The other thing
Speaker 10: you have to remember, I mean like, two first round
Speaker 10: picks sounds like this eye popping hall. The reality is
Speaker 10: the team, most of the teams that are gonna want
Speaker 10: Miles Garrett gonna be teams that are gonna win now
Speaker 10: spot and their picks are going to be down in
Speaker 10: the twenties or even the thirties, you know.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean I expect there to be a
Speaker 6: lot of interest. And you know, I mean the Browns
Speaker 6: position is what it.
Speaker 10: Should be right now, which is like we're not trading
Speaker 10: a generational player. Were in the playoffs two years ago,
Speaker 10: so you know, I think for another team coming in,
Speaker 10: it's like you really have to do something to get
Speaker 10: their attention.
Speaker 3: We've talked about this before.
Speaker 2: Dion Sanders impact on the draft with his son, and
Speaker 2: there was a report that Dion would not want his
Speaker 2: son to go to the Cleveland Browns if they were
Speaker 2: to take him. Would that scare off the Cleveland Browns
Speaker 2: in your opinion, I.
Speaker 10: Don't know he's going that high anyway, but I think
Speaker 10: it's something they'd have to consider.
Speaker 6: And you know, I think we saw it twenty years ago.
Speaker 10: When a guy has an NFL dad, generally those guys
Speaker 10: are more business minded. I think you can even see
Speaker 10: it with like the way like a Patrick Sirtan carries himself.
Speaker 10: You know, it's when when a guy's got a dad's
Speaker 10: who's been through it and went through it, they generally
Speaker 10: have like a they naturally have a really good feel
Speaker 10: for the way the business works. And you know, I
Speaker 10: don't blame Deon for looking at it and saying, I
Speaker 10: just want my kid in a good situation.
Speaker 6: I want my kid in a situation that's.
Speaker 10: Going to give them the best chance to have a
Speaker 10: ten to fifteen year career as a starter in the NFL.
Speaker 6: And I think Dion's smart enough to know that.
Speaker 10: Like you look at the best quarterbacks in the league,
Speaker 10: how many went into bad circumstances, Like we always talk
Speaker 10: about how they go to bad teams. Josh Allen was
Speaker 10: drafted by a playoff team. Lamar Jackson was drafted by
Speaker 10: a playoff team. Patrick Mahomes was drafted by a playoff team.
Speaker 10: Like all of those teams were in the playoffs the
Speaker 10: year before, so they weren't going to broken situations. Not
Speaker 10: to say they wouldn't have made it anyway, but like
Speaker 10: they went to situations that weren't just complete train wrecks.
Speaker 10: So you know, I think Dion obviously has been around
Speaker 10: long enough to know it and see it and see
Speaker 10: the difference between one thing and another, and obviously once
Speaker 10: what was best for his son.
Speaker 2: But you look at Cleveland, it's almost like that is
Speaker 2: the epicenter of the NFL because you got Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 2: they have the number two pick, and then you have
Speaker 2: the Miles Garrett situation. You play in a very competitive
Speaker 2: division as well.
Speaker 3: I don't know, are.
Speaker 2: They closer to being good or closer to being really bad?
Speaker 6: I so I think they're in an interesting spot in that.
Speaker 10: The core that they have only has so many more shots,
Speaker 10: you know what I mean. Like, so you got Miles
Speaker 10: Garrett going into year nine, you have Denzel Ward going
Speaker 10: into year eight.
Speaker 6: You've got some really good line that Joel.
Speaker 10: Batonio has been there forever, who are starting to age.
Speaker 6: So like, I think it's I still think it's a
Speaker 6: good operation. Like if you look at what.
Speaker 10: They've done, you know, over the last five years, which
Speaker 10: is where they were before that, they've made the playoffs twice,
Speaker 10: and the second time they made the playoffs that was
Speaker 10: amid the Deshaun Watson completely.
Speaker 6: Falling apart on them. So I think it's a good operation.
Speaker 10: That it made a really big mistake in trading for
Speaker 10: Deshaun Watson, you know, and they got to live.
Speaker 6: With that, and they got to were that. But I
Speaker 6: still think, how long.
Speaker 4: Do you live with it?
Speaker 6: Well, I think now is where you don't live with it.
Speaker 11: Now.
Speaker 10: Now this is where and I've said this since November, like,
Speaker 10: this plan is not new, is not directly related to
Speaker 10: the second Achilles tear. When Deshaun Watson went down, based
Speaker 10: on where they were, they had made the decision we
Speaker 10: are no longer going to coddle him or protect him
Speaker 10: because last year, one of the reasons they didn't bring
Speaker 10: Joe Flacco back was because that wouldn't that may not
Speaker 10: have been healthy for DeShawn because having the team could
Speaker 10: look at him and say, like Deshaun, the team could
Speaker 10: look and say, we've got a better option in the
Speaker 10: room with him, Joe Flacco, and that wouldn't have been
Speaker 10: wouldn't have been great for DeShawn coming off of that injury.
Speaker 10: After what they went through this year, they made the
Speaker 10: conscious decision and this was in season, they made the
Speaker 10: decision where at the very least going to add competition
Speaker 10: to the room. So rather than trying to build a
Speaker 10: quarterback room to support him, we're gonna we're gonna put
Speaker 10: somebody in there who could take his job.
Speaker 6: And so that was a baseline.
Speaker 10: Before he had the second Achilles tair and then he
Speaker 10: has the second Achilles Tair and.
Speaker 6: Now you know again like it's just like how to me.
Speaker 10: It's like when you're looking at guys like Garrett and
Speaker 10: you're looking at guys like Garrett and Ward on that roster,
Speaker 10: it's it's timelines. It's like, can we fix the quarterback
Speaker 10: position fast enough to get good enough to compete at
Speaker 10: a high enough level to contend for a championship.
Speaker 6: While Garrett and Ward and some of those other guys
Speaker 6: still have something left e ch.
Speaker 3: Albert Brier the Monday Morning quarterback.
Speaker 2: Uh, Cooper Cup on the market, what does hefferent?
Speaker 10: I mean, it's a different kettle of fish and Garrett.
Speaker 10: You know, we talked about the two of them.
Speaker 3: Because this is a playoff team.
Speaker 2: But I know there's a big number with Cooper Cup's salary.
Speaker 3: Is that what they're doing?
Speaker 6: I think it's just sort of run its course.
Speaker 10: They also have a big Like no one's talking about
Speaker 10: the Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 6: I don't understand it, Like I.
Speaker 10: Don't understand why nobody's talking about the idea that Stafford
Speaker 10: could be available. And then if you're another team, you're
Speaker 10: probably calling the Rams. That contract negotiation last year was tough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're seven points away from the NFC title game.
Speaker 6: I know, I know. But here's the thing. Like, so
Speaker 6: they went through i mean like a legitimate.
Speaker 10: Like four or five month negotiation, they wind up ban
Speaker 10: dating it right like in the summer.
Speaker 6: So you get to July and they do they push
Speaker 6: five million dollars forward.
Speaker 10: From twenty five and twenty six into twenty four, guarantee
Speaker 10: all of it, and then remove all of his guarantees
Speaker 10: like post twenty four. So now we're into a part
Speaker 10: of his contract where there's no guaranteed money left. He's
Speaker 10: making less money than he was on the books to
Speaker 10: make this year because they borrowed from that to give
Speaker 10: him the money this past year. And they had had
Speaker 10: an agreement when they when they when they did the
Speaker 10: reworked deal, we're going to revisit it at the end
Speaker 10: of the year. Well now we're at the point where
Speaker 10: they're going to revisit it.
Speaker 11: So what if.
Speaker 10: Matthew Stafford wants a market correction and said, what is it,
Speaker 10: seven or eight guys are making over fifty million, I
Speaker 10: want fifty million. There's just a lot of stuff there
Speaker 10: where Okay, but if I'm another team, I make that call.
Speaker 3: You know, but there's only a couple of teams that
Speaker 3: are going to make that call.
Speaker 6: Steelers.
Speaker 3: Okay, does his wife want to move out of Los Angeles?
Speaker 10: I mean, and that's a fair question. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 10: that's a fair question. But I do think I mean,
Speaker 10: Matthew said he wants to keep playing, you know, so
Speaker 10: I think the coaches would love to have him back
Speaker 10: in Los Angeles. I think there's just there's a lot
Speaker 10: there that they've got to work through over the.
Speaker 6: Next few weeks, and maybe it winds up being fine.
Speaker 6: But I know this, like.
Speaker 10: If I'm one of those teams that if I feel
Speaker 10: like I'm a quarterback away and I look at the
Speaker 10: market and I see Sam Donald, Russell Wilson, justin feels
Speaker 10: that Stafford's the guy who can put you over the top.
Speaker 6: I mean we saw it.
Speaker 10: We saw it four years ago, you know, when he
Speaker 10: was available in the Rams.
Speaker 6: You know, we put the Rams over the top.
Speaker 10: And the Steelers is another one where I'm thinking of
Speaker 10: those timelines, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: TJ. Watt turns thirty one. I believe this year thirty two.
Speaker 10: Nika Fitzpatrick, I believe it's turning twenty nine this year
Speaker 10: So the Steelers are like in that same position I
Speaker 10: talked about with Cleveland where it's like they they don't
Speaker 10: have their answer at quarterback. They don't have a quarterback
Speaker 10: we can put them in a position to compete with Mahomes,
Speaker 10: Alan Burrow Lamar in the AFC right now, So like
Speaker 10: they're sort of in this no man's land with those
Speaker 10: star players where it's like, can we fix this position
Speaker 10: fast enough so we can compete with TJ and Minka
Speaker 10: still at the height of their powers, or do we
Speaker 10: have to look at resetting completely? You know, I think
Speaker 10: that the Steelers are the one where I look at them.
Speaker 10: It's like if there's a team that could take a
Speaker 10: swing at.
Speaker 6: Quarterback, they would be them.
Speaker 10: And I'd say, like, just looking at where they're at,
Speaker 10: Like if I'm them, I'm on the phone with the Rams,
Speaker 10: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Look like you, then I would say, we want Cooper
Speaker 2: cup and Matthew Stafford if you're the Steelers, and.
Speaker 10: They would the Rams would probably do that, you know,
Speaker 10: Like if I'm not, they wouldn't. I'm not saying that
Speaker 10: they dude Stafford now, but if they had gotten to
Speaker 10: the point where we're trading Stafford I think that.
Speaker 6: You know, you could do some sort of package deal.
Speaker 3: There, Sam Darnold.
Speaker 10: Yeah, So like the vikings are in, the vikings are,
Speaker 10: I would say comfortable with the idea now of going
Speaker 10: to JJ McCarthy in twenty twenty.
Speaker 6: Five if that's the way things shake out.
Speaker 10: You know, he lost four months of development time that
Speaker 10: he would have gotten had he not gotten hurt. But
Speaker 10: the second surgery was just a cleanup, and he was
Speaker 10: very engaged. And if you want to go back to August,
Speaker 10: like he had done enough to at least create some
Speaker 10: intrigue in that building, like is he a better option
Speaker 10: than and Sam had a great year, but it got
Speaker 10: them to kind of look at their plan and say,
Speaker 10: is there going to come a point when we want
Speaker 10: to put JJ out there this year? So he had
Speaker 10: made that much progress even though they planned in red
Speaker 10: shirting him. Then he gets hurt and he stayed engaged.
Speaker 10: Like my understanding is like when the team was out
Speaker 10: on the practice field, he would go and do his rehab,
Speaker 10: but other than that he was involved in the quarterback
Speaker 10: room and all the meetings and all of that.
Speaker 6: And then he started traveling with them in October so.
Speaker 10: He could be part of the game day operation, so
Speaker 10: he could be on the headsets all that different stuff.
Speaker 10: They feel really good about where JJ is and I think.
Speaker 6: What it does.
Speaker 10: It doesn't mean Sam's gone, but it does give them
Speaker 10: some flexibility.
Speaker 6: Where they can draw lines now.
Speaker 10: And maybe the answer is to franchise if that's forty
Speaker 10: million dollars is a lot of money, or maybe they
Speaker 10: can let him go to the market and say come
Speaker 10: back to us, and like, you know, we don't want
Speaker 10: to We don't we may not want to reset the market.
Speaker 10: We understands the risk we lose you if you do this,
Speaker 10: but we love you. Go to the market and see
Speaker 10: what's up. You know it's and it's interesting too because
Speaker 10: to me, you won fourteen games. You want to give
Speaker 10: the veterans on your team, you know, guys like if
Speaker 10: Harrison Smith's back, you know Jonathan Grenard, you know obviously
Speaker 10: Justin Jefferson, Christian Derris saw these guys who are part
Speaker 10: of this fourteen win team, Like you want to give
Speaker 10: them the best chance at the most important position.
Speaker 6: So you do want to be stopped there. But I
Speaker 6: do think they feel comfortable if the guys.
Speaker 2: JJ all right, final thirty seconds, we're gonna play the
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett game.
Speaker 3: Okay, later on where will he go? I'll let you
Speaker 3: have your.
Speaker 6: My favorite destination will be Detroit.
Speaker 10: Oh, I Like, I just think about that, Like, I'm like,
Speaker 10: they're in a spot now where they don't need their
Speaker 10: first round pick there, they don't really need to keep
Speaker 10: stalking like they like, they may be in a position where,
Speaker 10: if you're them, you can almost say, like, we may
Speaker 10: only have five or six rookies make our team, you
Speaker 10: know what I mean? Like, so are they in a
Speaker 10: position now where it's like we can spend, we can
Speaker 10: start to flip picks. If you're them and you lost
Speaker 10: all of these coaches and you want to flip the
Speaker 10: momentum and kind of keep things.
Speaker 6: Going in the right direction.
Speaker 10: I mean, God, the idea of Miles Garrett opposite Aiden Hutch,
Speaker 10: I mean, like that.
Speaker 6: To me is really intriguing.
Speaker 10: And so I mean I think Detroit is just Detroit's
Speaker 10: in this championship window.
Speaker 6: And like after I mean, they had so.
Speaker 10: Much momentum and then they the ugly loss to Washington
Speaker 10: and it was six or seven coaches and it's like,
Speaker 10: looks like, oh God, are they missing their window? What's
Speaker 10: the easiest way to flip that.
Speaker 3: That's interesting.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 2: Albert Breer, the Monday Morning Quarterback senior NFL reporter, Thanks you.
Speaker 10: By the way, they did call at the trade deadline
Speaker 10: on Miles Okay, he was not available, but they at
Speaker 10: least inquired when they traded for Zadarius Smith.
Speaker 3: So thanks again. You got it all season long.
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Speaker 3: Charles Barkley will stop by.
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Speaker 2: was an interesting stat and I had not heard this
Speaker 2: stat before. No team has ever won a Super Bowl
Speaker 2: while not having any takeaways during the postseason. The Chiefs
Speaker 2: do not have a takeaway yet this postseason. I don't
Speaker 2: know how many times we've had teams that have gone
Speaker 2: into the Super Bowl with that stat but no takeaways here. Also,
Speaker 2: no players ever scored a touchdown or rushed for one
Speaker 2: hundred yards or more in the Super Bowl on their birthday.
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley's birthday, it's February ninth.
Speaker 3: No, well, but I don't know how many running.
Speaker 2: Backs have celebrated their birthday on the day of the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. So it's a weird stat where you go, oh,
Speaker 2: my gosh, I don't know how many of those running
Speaker 2: backs you know had their birthday on Super Bowl Sunday.
Speaker 3: Yes, Marvin Van Morris, his birthday was on Super Bowl thirty.
Speaker 3: Oh look at you Blue Blue.
Speaker 6: No, No, absolutely not. Do you know what Wore's birthday was?
Speaker 7: I know?
Speaker 3: On Why are you doing stuff like that? Yes, PAULI,
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going.
Speaker 9: To be like to be a New York Giants fan
Speaker 9: watching that game on Sunday. That is brutal because you
Speaker 9: you don't want to root against Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 8: But if he wins MVP, it's double the pain.
Speaker 3: The countdown is on.
Speaker 2: Celebrate One Night, fifty years in the making, The Saturday
Speaker 2: Night Live fiftieth Anniversary special premiere Sunday, February sixteenth, on
Speaker 2: NBC and Peacock. From Saquon Barkley to Charles Barkley, no
Speaker 2: relation that I know of. Turn your sports inside the NBA,
Speaker 2: and you're not related to Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 6: Are you.
Speaker 14: Claiming? And I don't care if we are or not.
Speaker 14: I don't think we are, but I'm playing them. I'm claiming. Ay,
Speaker 14: I've been claiming them all year. He's my cousin. I
Speaker 14: don't care what anybody says.
Speaker 3: Did you play football in high school?
Speaker 11: I played one day.
Speaker 3: What happened?
Speaker 14: I realized they were really hitting people out there, you know, Dad,
Speaker 14: That's the reason football is my favorite sport. It takes
Speaker 14: trendous courage to go out there. You know, football and
Speaker 14: boxing and my two favorite sports. I played football for
Speaker 14: one day. I realized they were they're tougher than me,
Speaker 14: and I quit.
Speaker 3: And you're not much of a boxer either.
Speaker 11: I can fight a little bit. I can hold my own.
Speaker 14: The good thing about fighting boxing is different box boxing.
Speaker 14: Y'all got gloves on, trying to hit each other, fighting
Speaker 14: whatever you can get your hands on to hit somebody,
Speaker 14: that's what goes. That's a big difference, Dan.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, also, when you fought in the NBA, somebody was
Speaker 2: usually gonna grab you, so it didn't escalate too much.
Speaker 3: Further, Well, first of.
Speaker 14: All, if you're out there fight any way, you're punk.
Speaker 14: You know, Kevin McHale, the best player I ever played against,
Speaker 14: always said, he said the thing I know, he says,
Speaker 14: I never worried about the pistols. He says, they're out
Speaker 14: there beating up people. At some point, you got to
Speaker 14: play basketball, and only two of the guys can play,
Speaker 14: Isaiah Thomas and Joe Dumars, and we were gonna win eventually.
Speaker 6: He said.
Speaker 14: The rest of those guys out there just beating up people,
Speaker 14: he said, but it's chief a charge. At some point
Speaker 14: we realized they had to play basketball, and only two
Speaker 14: guys they had. We were worried about Isaiah and Joe
Speaker 14: Thomas Dumars.
Speaker 11: My bad.
Speaker 3: All right, who you betting on Super Bowl Sunday?
Speaker 14: My Philadelphia Eagles. Then I'm a big Eagles fan. We're
Speaker 14: putting the end of this renal terror in Kansas City.
Speaker 14: You know what's really crazy. I love Pat Mahons and
Speaker 14: Travis Kelsey, but I bet against them every game in
Speaker 14: the last two years because I actually thought they.
Speaker 11: Were going to lose.
Speaker 14: The only game I actually won in the last two
Speaker 14: years is when, for some reason and de Reed ran
Speaker 14: out of the end zone and I covered with the
Speaker 14: safety by half a point.
Speaker 11: I have lost.
Speaker 14: I think it's I think it's six straight games. I
Speaker 14: bet against the Chiefs. I thought they would lose. You know,
Speaker 14: two years ago the law of times, they're gonna lose
Speaker 14: at Buffalo. Then I thought they would lose to the Ravens.
Speaker 14: Then I had San Francisco in the Super Bowl. I
Speaker 14: didn't think they were going to lose to the Texans,
Speaker 14: but I thought the Texans would cover. Then I had
Speaker 14: the Bills. I'm rooting for the Bills and they didn't.
Speaker 14: But hey, I haven't learned my lesson I'm taking and
Speaker 14: it's just ironic. I'm really an Eagle fan. But the
Speaker 14: rain of terror is over Sunday night.
Speaker 3: Why don't you just give your money to charity and
Speaker 3: not bet on the game.
Speaker 14: I'm an be at a casino. Why would I go
Speaker 14: to a casino and not bet on the game.
Speaker 3: I know, but you tend to lose a lot.
Speaker 4: I got a lot.
Speaker 2: And this doesn't even incorporate your new deal that you're
Speaker 2: gonna have with your TV partner, your next one.
Speaker 14: Hey, listen, I'm trying to figure out all that stuff
Speaker 14: out Dan, it's been very fascinated behind the scenes. There's
Speaker 14: been a lot of shit, canay going on behind the
Speaker 14: scenes that I haven't been happy with, and I'm hoping
Speaker 14: everything works out, but I'm it's been fascinating to dealing
Speaker 14: with all the tntbs this entire time.
Speaker 3: Okay, why haven't you reached down to me privately?
Speaker 14: Well, Dan, I'm just trying to figure out. Like I say,
Speaker 14: I don't have to make a decision asap.
Speaker 3: But I can help you.
Speaker 2: I've been at a couple of places that you're probably
Speaker 2: negotiating with if you had questions, so I would give
Speaker 2: you honest answers.
Speaker 3: I've done that for other athletes.
Speaker 14: Yeah, my listen, my it was really fascinating people talking
Speaker 14: about money and all this other stuff. I dude, I
Speaker 14: ain't worried about no money. My decision was gonna come
Speaker 14: down strictly to one thing. My workload. I've been to
Speaker 14: TNT for twenty five years. Then I'm really good at
Speaker 14: working one day a week. I am great at.
Speaker 11: It, you know.
Speaker 14: So you know, I was like, yo, man, I'm not
Speaker 14: going work. I'm gonna be older. I'll be six to
Speaker 14: two in a couple of weeks. I'm not going to
Speaker 14: work more as I get older. That was my only concern.
Speaker 14: And NBC was great, you know, Mark Lass and Greg
Speaker 14: Hughes were great to me, but I turned their offer
Speaker 14: down because they had too much stuff in there for
Speaker 14: me to do. And then I counseled all the stuff
Speaker 14: all the other means with Amazon. They were greeted at Amazon,
Speaker 14: but after meeting with ESPN, they made me feel better.
Speaker 14: But I just want to get between TNT and ESPN.
Speaker 14: I said, I just want to figure out which my workload.
Speaker 14: They haven't given me in a definitive answer, because I
Speaker 14: don't think they know their definitive answer, to be honest
Speaker 14: with you.
Speaker 3: So you could stay at TNT.
Speaker 11: I could.
Speaker 14: I could always have stayed at TNT, but I put
Speaker 14: in my contract I could get out of there if
Speaker 14: they lost the NBA. You know, it was really funny
Speaker 14: the TNT people, they're stupid. They tried to say to
Speaker 14: me that I was. They wrote a c said dessist
Speaker 14: letter to Amazon and NBC, and it really pissed me
Speaker 14: off because wait a minute, but they're trying to say
Speaker 14: that they traded my show to esp and that's the
Speaker 14: same as them keeping it I'm like, I don't think
Speaker 14: that's the way it works. That's what they We were
Speaker 14: having some heated discussions behind scenes down in Atlanta.
Speaker 11: I was like, wait a minute, Yeah.
Speaker 14: They sent a C centerss letter to NBC and Amazon
Speaker 14: saying I wasn't available. I said, that's not the way
Speaker 14: my contract reads. Y'all lost the NBA. If I wanted
Speaker 14: to leave, I could leave. That was the ball of contention.
Speaker 14: I says, They're like, no, you on the contract. I said, well,
Speaker 14: I'll take my chances in court. And I felt really
Speaker 14: good about my chances in court because, regardless of what
Speaker 14: they say, Dan, them trading us to ESP and ain't
Speaker 14: the same as us being on the contract to T
Speaker 14: and T.
Speaker 2: It's Charles Barkley, Hall of Famer, Turner Sports for the
Speaker 2: moment inside the NBA analyst who won the Luca ad trade.
Speaker 3: Right now, let's look at it as of today.
Speaker 14: Oh, the Dallas Mavericks the contender right away.
Speaker 11: They got a really good team.
Speaker 14: People forgetting about Max Christian Mats Christy gonna help the MAVs.
Speaker 11: But listen, Ad was a d You know, he's played.
Speaker 14: Great the last couple of years, and if he plays
Speaker 14: like he's played to Guay was just coming off a
Speaker 14: forty twenty game and.
Speaker 11: If he plays like that.
Speaker 14: Because what's interesting about the NBA, Dan, I'm not sure
Speaker 14: who the favorite is right now.
Speaker 11: We can say, okay, see they're.
Speaker 14: The favorite in the West, but the MAVs are the
Speaker 14: second best team in the West right this day. And
Speaker 14: I'm not sure what's going on with the Celtics. So, man,
Speaker 14: we can talk all the noise we want to. The
Speaker 14: championship is up for grabs right now. The Celtics have
Speaker 14: not looked good all year in my opinion, But in
Speaker 14: the West, OKC is the prohibit the favorite. But man,
Speaker 14: they've never been in the fire before day and that's
Speaker 14: the favorite going in so that's gonna be a shock
Speaker 14: to their system with everybody gunning for him. But right now,
Speaker 14: the MAVs one is for the next two or three years.
Speaker 11: The mav won the trade.
Speaker 2: Now that Lebron has Luca, Lebron more likely to stay
Speaker 2: an extra year or two or maybe leave or retired.
Speaker 14: You know, that's a fascinating question, like is he what
Speaker 14: is he hanging around for? I personally think if I
Speaker 14: was him, the Lakers are not contenders right now. I
Speaker 14: would wave my note trade I do with Tom Brady
Speaker 14: and go put myself in a perfect situation where I
Speaker 14: can have two more bites of the apple like and
Speaker 14: I don't know the perfect situation. But he's he's holding
Speaker 14: all the cards. He can go to the lager and say, hey,
Speaker 14: let's have our cake and eat it too.
Speaker 11: I can get you.
Speaker 14: All a couple of players, maybe a couple of dress picks.
Speaker 14: Let's pick out a perfect scenario. That's what Tom Brady did,
Speaker 14: took the perfect situation in Tampa. If I'm Lebron, like
Speaker 14: I say, we're not gonna win the championship this year
Speaker 14: or next year, let's trade to a perfect scenario.
Speaker 11: But they could, like I say, the.
Speaker 14: Only problem they got right now they got to make
Speaker 14: a decision about Thursday at four o'clock. But you know
Speaker 14: that's a lot of time in NBA years. That's what
Speaker 14: I was I would do if I was him.
Speaker 2: When you hear the criticism or critiques of Luca's you know,
Speaker 2: physical shape, how do you react to them?
Speaker 14: Well, Dan, if everybody's saying it, it's probably fair. You
Speaker 14: know everybody's been I find it fascinating that all of
Speaker 14: us have been talking about Luca's conditioning for three years now,
Speaker 14: all of a sudden, it's an insult.
Speaker 11: Like I don't think people were hiding it.
Speaker 14: I think everybody's heard the same criticism for three years now.
Speaker 14: All of a sudden, I saw its dad like they're
Speaker 14: saying these things about my son. I'm like, well, mister
Speaker 14: dunchik and fairness, I watched TV. I got a TV.
Speaker 14: They've been saying the same thing for three years. They're
Speaker 14: not saying it like out of the blue, but I
Speaker 14: will say this, he's a great, great player. But then
Speaker 14: the Dallas Maverige know him better than anybody. I know
Speaker 14: he's a great player from a distance. But the Dallas
Speaker 14: Mavericks had to make a decision do we get this
Speaker 14: guy five years through hundred and fifty million dollars.
Speaker 11: I give them credit. They made a decision.
Speaker 14: It might come back to bite them in the ass,
Speaker 14: but that's your job.
Speaker 11: Hey.
Speaker 14: Listen, a year ago, we were all pat Niko on
Speaker 14: the back because he went out and got gafferd PJ
Speaker 14: and all these other guys and got the Mayor to
Speaker 14: the finals. Everybody act like it was only Luca and
Speaker 14: Kyrie that got them to the finals. No, Nico did
Speaker 14: a tremendous job last year. He made like three or
Speaker 14: four trades that got the Mails to the finals. If
Speaker 14: they just had to had Luke and Kyrie, they wouldn't
Speaker 14: have made it to the.
Speaker 11: Finals last year.
Speaker 14: But they picked up three pieces during the during the
Speaker 14: trade deadline and made them a contender to get to
Speaker 14: the finals. But like I say, hey, that's the job
Speaker 14: man Nico, and I gave him credit.
Speaker 11: He went out there and answered all the questions.
Speaker 14: He didn't run, he didn't hide a lot of times
Speaker 14: that these general managers make bad trades.
Speaker 11: They put out statement and things like that.
Speaker 14: I give Nico credit. He sit down, he took all
Speaker 14: the questions. Now I will say this, this is a
Speaker 14: job trade. This is this is a job trade. If
Speaker 14: the trade doesn't work, you're gonna lose your job. There's shit,
Speaker 14: there's there's a that's very there's very few jobs in
Speaker 14: sports as a general manager or president whoever running things
Speaker 14: that I call them trade jobs. If the trade doesn't work,
Speaker 14: you're gonna lose your job. Playing and simple, and it
Speaker 14: shouldn't be like that because I've been saying for years
Speaker 14: I think the easiest job and the best job in
Speaker 14: the NBA is running the NBA team because you get
Speaker 14: to blame three coaches before people realize you're the problem.
Speaker 14: Because think about that, Dan, very few coaches maybe Popovich.
Speaker 11: There's only how many coaches actually have.
Speaker 14: Power to make great Papa Vison is probably the last
Speaker 14: guy who gets complete power of an NBA team. But
Speaker 14: the rest of these general manager they get to fire
Speaker 14: like they get to make ten bad deals and fire
Speaker 14: three coaches and then people says, well, what's the consistent
Speaker 14: thing here the general manager? So hey, but that goes
Speaker 14: with the job.
Speaker 3: Brother, would what Jimmy Butler as a teammate.
Speaker 14: I would want Jimmy Butler as a teammate. I think
Speaker 14: it's a hell of a teammate. But I think Jimmy
Speaker 14: is misguided because you know, Dan, I've said this before.
Speaker 14: I'm not just saying for some reason, these players think
Speaker 14: you They owed you a lifetime contract. Dude, we paid
Speaker 14: you fifty million dollars last year, this year and next year,
Speaker 14: and you're gonna be older and you're starting and you're
Speaker 14: there decline anyway, and I see foods on TV time.
Speaker 14: But Jimmy Butler's right, Jimmy Butler is one hundred percent wrong.
Speaker 14: They don't you think I don't want to still be
Speaker 14: playing for the Sixers of the Sons. They like, you
Speaker 14: get old and they're not gonna pay you. They paid
Speaker 14: you very Listen. I love Klay Thompson. I love Klay Thompson.
Speaker 14: He won fourth championship with the Warriors. The Warriors made
Speaker 14: a business decision, Clay, you're getting older. You had an achilles,
Speaker 14: you had an acl We're not going to pay you.
Speaker 14: I had No that's business man, it's nothing personal.
Speaker 3: Where are you gonna be watching the Super Bowl?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 5: Dan?
Speaker 14: I take the same twelve guys to Vegas for twenty
Speaker 14: this'll be our twenty.
Speaker 11: Eighth straight year.
Speaker 14: We play golf all day Saturday, we get up Sunday morning,
Speaker 14: play golf, then we go to the casino with ten
Speaker 14: thousand people, basically and washing the Super Bowl in Vegas.
Speaker 11: I've done it.
Speaker 14: I take the same twelve to fifteen guys every year.
Speaker 14: It's like it's on the highlights of my year.
Speaker 3: But do you pick up the tab for these freeloaders?
Speaker 14: Well, I got to see how the gambling goes. Because
Speaker 14: you know how to Vegas works. You get everything free
Speaker 14: until you total up at the end of the weekend. Hey,
Speaker 14: all I have to do is provide the private jet,
Speaker 14: which that comes with the casino, and all the rooms
Speaker 14: are free, all the drinks and stuff are free until
Speaker 14: Monday morning when you're checking out. It depends on how
Speaker 14: the table's been to you.
Speaker 2: So you're paying for the private jet with you lose
Speaker 2: no trip. That's why they send the private jet because
Speaker 2: the previous trips when you've lost, you don't lose.
Speaker 11: All the time, Dan, Sometimes you win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they send the private jet because they know you're
Speaker 2: probably they.
Speaker 11: Send the private jet. They send the private jet.
Speaker 3: To get you there because they know what happens when
Speaker 3: you get there.
Speaker 14: Then you win, sometimes you can't. You know, first of all,
Speaker 14: I hate when people say, hey, you go.
Speaker 11: One thing I know about gambling. You're gonna win.
Speaker 14: Sometimes you're gonna lose. Sometimes that's what gambling is. It's
Speaker 14: not like I know they send a private jet for
Speaker 14: a reason. Their job is to get me there. But
Speaker 14: you know, when I win, the jet is free and
Speaker 14: all my friends we have a great weekend. All the
Speaker 14: meals are free. But when I lose, like I've had,
Speaker 14: I've had my friends joke with me like they're like, man,
Speaker 14: and those steaks and those rooms and they wasn't worth
Speaker 14: a million dollars. But hey sometime, hey sometimes.
Speaker 11: Hey, but that's the deal man, I know when you.
Speaker 14: Go to the Yeah, hey hey, I've been there twenty
Speaker 14: eight straight years after this year, so I'm still I'm
Speaker 14: all right.
Speaker 2: Have fun, have fun this weekend. Good to talk to you,
Speaker 2: all right, brother, go birds. That's Charles Barkley. All right,
Speaker 2: Brady Quinn will join us. We'll talk some football with him.
Speaker 2: We'll take a break, we'll come back after this Dan
Speaker 2: Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2: All of our studio guests receive a fantastic gift bag
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Speaker 2: If you're watching on Peacock, we just showed pretty much
Speaker 2: an introductory instructional video as the Danis are going to
Speaker 2: play pickleball after the show, and it's front rowe acro
Speaker 2: which means Todd and Seatan versus Marvin and Pauli. And
Speaker 2: they banged it around a little bit yesterday we have
Speaker 2: uniforms for you guys to wear. You got special Miller Lites,
Speaker 2: Sketchers pickleball shoes, so you guys are ready to go
Speaker 2: solid arch support in those. By the way, we do
Speaker 2: have we have odds that the back room guys came
Speaker 2: up with of like, you know, first injury, who's gonna
Speaker 2: probably hit it into the net most often? So we'll
Speaker 2: have those prompt bits available online if you would like
Speaker 2: to bet.
Speaker 9: Yes, Paul, I haven't seen the uniforms yet. Are they
Speaker 9: like the movie Dodgeball? Average Joe so silky red and
Speaker 9: silver whatever?
Speaker 2: Seatan went out and got him yesterday? So I do
Speaker 2: you trust Seatans always comedically?
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, I'm not disappointed that.
Speaker 2: It's content sprits to be wearing a half shirt. By
Speaker 2: the way, Marvin had this for me. He said, Hey,
Speaker 2: have you heard Klay Thompson the Mavericks card talk about
Speaker 2: when Kobe came out to see Luca. This is when
Speaker 2: Clay knew that Luca was real. And Klay Thompson had
Speaker 2: this to say about that moment.
Speaker 15: That's actually funny because that's the first thing I told
Speaker 15: Luca when we met.
Speaker 11: I was like, man, I knew you.
Speaker 15: Were going to be special because he brought Kobe out
Speaker 15: of the house to go watch and play. And Kobe
Speaker 15: doesn't just give that love to those who don't earn it.
Speaker 15: So that's a cool moment.
Speaker 2: And it is when you think about it, Kobe leaving
Speaker 2: his house to go out and watch Luca play like
Speaker 2: that was the ultimate compliment. And now Luca a Laker, Yes, Mark.
Speaker 4: Because he sure wasn't watching the Lakers at that point.
Speaker 2: Okay Bloop. Our next guest played quarterback for Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: He played quarterback in the NFL. We hung out with
Speaker 2: him in Dublin a few years back, and he was
Speaker 2: the best looking guy in the country. Here's Brady Quinn,
Speaker 2: very crisp handshake there. We were just talking about this
Speaker 2: that like DAP Like I'm I'm a DAP guy. I
Speaker 2: don't need a handshake, you know. Do you think the
Speaker 2: commissioner had a tutorial prior to his first draft to
Speaker 2: understand how to shake hands with draft picks.
Speaker 16: So I actually was Roger Goodell's first draft, So I
Speaker 16: can go back and recount the fact that being how
Speaker 16: long I was in the green room, and I think
Speaker 16: his excitement to get me and my family out of
Speaker 16: his green room.
Speaker 4: Probably was part of the reason why we like hugged,
Speaker 4: but it was more.
Speaker 16: Than adapt But I really I don't think anyone gave
Speaker 16: a toutoral. I think he just got it in him.
Speaker 3: But he gets a little too into it.
Speaker 16: Well, it's a big moment for a lot of people there,
Speaker 16: you know, again, for our family and for me. I mean,
Speaker 16: it was a long time building up to that moment.
Speaker 16: But I got drafted by the team that I root
Speaker 16: before growing up, and all that Chipotte that we had
Speaker 16: ordered during that five and a half hour stint or
Speaker 16: whatever it was, was magically whisked out of his green room.
Speaker 2: Okay, but when you're sitting there, if a draft, a
Speaker 2: guy who's going to be drafted in the first round says,
Speaker 2: I want to bring my girlfriend.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what would you say as the commissioner?
Speaker 11: Or no?
Speaker 3: You from experience?
Speaker 16: Oh, I mean again, we all knew what we signed
Speaker 16: up for, whether it was my girlfriend or my parents
Speaker 16: and everyone else. I think what I would do is
Speaker 16: I would ask them, does that individual believe their girlfriends
Speaker 16: strong enough or their family strong enough to be able
Speaker 16: to handle the camera, the pressure, lights, everything else, Because
Speaker 16: up until that moment, really they have only experienced things
Speaker 16: through you.
Speaker 4: They haven't been there right with you in the spotlight.
Speaker 16: And I think that's one of the things that I
Speaker 16: wasn't really thinking about. When you're thinking about going to
Speaker 16: the NFL Draft, you're just thinking about like your dream
Speaker 16: coming true and getting to play in the NFL, and
Speaker 16: you're not thinking you're going to be sitting there for
Speaker 16: five and a half hours or whatever it was. And
Speaker 16: you're not also not thinking about how your family's going
Speaker 16: to handle that pressure. I mean, you're prepared for it.
Speaker 16: You've handled a lot of other things your life up
Speaker 16: to that point, but that's a very different set of
Speaker 16: circumstances for your family to deal with.
Speaker 2: And trying to figure out who's telling you the truth. Yeah,
Speaker 2: during the draft process, well, and.
Speaker 16: That was part of my reaction, I think to a
Speaker 16: number of the picks based on what I was told.
Speaker 16: You know, we were told something that by Phil Savage
Speaker 16: that was completely truthful. He's like, hey, if you enjoy
Speaker 16: there at number three, like we're going to take Joe Thomas,
Speaker 16: and my agent, Tom conn at the time told.
Speaker 4: Me the night before he goes. I've never had a
Speaker 4: general manager tell me that before draft.
Speaker 6: He goes.
Speaker 4: Most times they say things like that as a smoke screen,
Speaker 4: he goes. In this case, they were truthful.
Speaker 16: And so when that pick came through, I already had
Speaker 16: an idea in my head, and to Phil's credit, Phil
Speaker 16: said that because he knew how much it meant to
Speaker 16: me to be drafted by the Browns, and so I
Speaker 16: was kind of prepared for it. But some of the
Speaker 16: other picks I had an idea, but the Miami one
Speaker 16: was that was the most surprising. So that was probably
Speaker 16: more why I would reacted in the way I did,
Speaker 16: because I was really curious to see who they're going
Speaker 16: to go with instead.
Speaker 3: What happened with Miami.
Speaker 16: They had sent again this is coming from what I
Speaker 16: had heard from Charlie Weisse. You have to ask him,
Speaker 16: but they had sent him a package and all the
Speaker 16: stuff that supposedly said, we know you haven't been a
Speaker 16: big fan in the past, given that they were division rivals,
Speaker 16: but hope you will after the draft the next day,
Speaker 16: which I don't think he was a fan at all
Speaker 16: after what happened the next day. So yeah, that was
Speaker 16: that led us to believe that I was going to
Speaker 16: be Miami. Terry Sha, their quarterbacks coach. He had actually
Speaker 16: been with me in Arizona training and preparing for my
Speaker 16: pro day for the draft and all of that. He
Speaker 16: left to go take the quarterback coach job. So I'm
Speaker 16: thinking like, okay, like if he has any say like
Speaker 16: he'll he's seen my work ethic, you see me, Like
Speaker 16: he'll be on my side on all this. And they
Speaker 16: decided to go in a different direction. And that was
Speaker 16: you know, in the end, you know, I think they
Speaker 16: were one and fifteen or whatever that season, but it.
Speaker 4: Was what it was.
Speaker 3: Take that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 16: I meant to mention this before I come on because
Speaker 16: it's Super Bowl week. You know, I just came from
Speaker 16: Radio row and you know how this goes, I'm gonna
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Speaker 11: Len.
Speaker 2: A quarterback has less attempts like Jalen Hurts, Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2: We've seen quarterbacks who were you know, paid a lot
Speaker 2: of money, but I don't know how you process that.
Speaker 2: Like Justin Herbert was able to throw the ball prior
Speaker 2: to Jim Harball getting there and they got to the playoffs, right,
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts is in a Super Bowl, sa Quon comes in.
Speaker 2: He's really the focal point of the offense. You know,
Speaker 2: in this past happy league, is it still a pass
Speaker 2: happy league?
Speaker 16: I think it is, although I think you know, the
Speaker 16: league's always going to go through its ebbs and flows
Speaker 16: and adjusting. And I think one of the things that
Speaker 16: you've seen a lot of defensive coordinators do is like
Speaker 16: the in vogue defensive covers, like the shell coverage. You
Speaker 16: hear about this all the time, and reason why is
Speaker 16: because you're essentially playing with a lighter box. You're almost
Speaker 16: enticing or forcing teams to see if they'll run the football, right.
Speaker 16: I mean, we look at the salary cap, we look
Speaker 16: how the roster now the money's allocator are spent, and
Speaker 16: oftentimes it hasn't been on the running back position. And
Speaker 16: it's important because the game has become so much more
Speaker 16: of a passing game. And don't get me wrong, it
Speaker 16: is and always will be because of the rules, the
Speaker 16: protections quarterbacks are given receivers for that matter too. But
Speaker 16: I think you're seeing a swing at least in the
Speaker 16: momentum of saying like you got to be more balanced,
Speaker 16: and in part because your best player might be the
Speaker 16: guy who's behind the quarterback in Saquon Barkley, or it
Speaker 16: could be Dereck Henry. In that case, the more had
Speaker 16: an unbelievable season. I think Derek Henry helped out a
Speaker 16: little bit too. But by and large, I think you're
Speaker 16: starting to see that too many defenses are trying to
Speaker 16: adjust to this game now where there's so many big plays,
Speaker 16: there's so many things that are happening in the passing
Speaker 16: game that they're trying to keep it all in front
Speaker 16: of them, trying to disguise what they're doing pre snap,
Speaker 16: make it muddy for the quarterback.
Speaker 4: When you drop back, you're saying, is that quarters is
Speaker 4: a quarter quarter half?
Speaker 16: What variation are they doing a lot of times they
Speaker 16: can do a nice little disguise and how they play
Speaker 16: a match zone or even man out of it. So
Speaker 16: there's so many things that happened post snap. It's making
Speaker 16: it harder on the quarterback. And so again it goes
Speaker 16: back to what are you Your ultimate task is trying
Speaker 16: to win? And if that's the case, how can you
Speaker 16: figure out a way of getting that quarterback to make
Speaker 16: mistakes turnovers and.
Speaker 4: Get them off the field.
Speaker 16: And oftentimes it's a lot of what these defenses are
Speaker 16: doing so undoing that now offenses have to realize they've
Speaker 16: got to adjust. You got to start working the ball
Speaker 16: to Oftentimes, with the best players out there.
Speaker 3: Can Jalen Hurts win in a shootout against Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 16: I mean the last time these two teams played, I
Speaker 16: thought he was arguably the best player in the field.
Speaker 16: You know, that was kind of his coming to age
Speaker 16: moment where we all want wow, I mean, he might
Speaker 16: have been the best player out there, But.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we believe that that's who he
Speaker 2: truly is. He did have an unbelievable game.
Speaker 16: You have to understand, I've watched this young man all
Speaker 16: his time in Bama, then to Oklahoma, then to the NFL,
Speaker 16: and he's like machine learning man, Like the more.
Speaker 4: Reps he gets, the better he gets, the better he gets.
Speaker 16: I think sometimes we take for granted that they've been
Speaker 16: going through some staff changes too in regards to that,
Speaker 16: you know, the play caller, that's a relationship that it
Speaker 16: takes time to iron out that the personality of your
Speaker 16: play caller, the chemistry that you have with that play caller,
Speaker 16: and how they're going to react.
Speaker 4: To when you make a mistake.
Speaker 2: But why say he took he took the straight jacket
Speaker 2: off of me talking about his coach. If if you're
Speaker 2: the best reason, or you know, you play like that,
Speaker 2: we can win, why would the you know, the perception
Speaker 2: be the coach has a straight jacket or Jalen Hurts
Speaker 2: thinks there's a straight jacket on him from his coach.
Speaker 4: Look, he may have said that for a number of reasons.
Speaker 16: It could be like maybe they're protecting him for injury
Speaker 16: related related issues. It could be, you know, they don't
Speaker 16: want to show too many things if they feel like
Speaker 16: they can win with doing less. And obviously that doesn't
Speaker 16: happen to the playoffs very often, but in the regular
Speaker 16: season at times, you'll try to hide some stuff sometimes
Speaker 16: if you can.
Speaker 3: But you know, it's just a weird comment.
Speaker 16: Well, there's been a lot of weird helmets that have
Speaker 16: come out for the Philadelphia Eagles this year. I mean,
Speaker 16: you had guys reading books on the sidelines, Yeah, or
Speaker 16: at least looking at a book.
Speaker 4: I don't know how much you can read.
Speaker 16: You don't get a ton of time sometimes in between
Speaker 16: series and talking to your teammates and your coach.
Speaker 6: But at least A. J.
Speaker 16: Brown had had a book that apparently the book sales
Speaker 16: are doing great, they're skyrocketing.
Speaker 2: Let's say your quarterback, you know you're watching a movie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, you're not watching plays, You're not you know,
Speaker 2: you're just watching a movie. But it's a movie that
Speaker 2: really gets you, you know, in the in a moment,
Speaker 2: and I you know like, uh, whatever taken Shaw Shank
Speaker 2: redemn sh he.
Speaker 4: Can take a the movie he likes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because yes, yes.
Speaker 5: Really Todd give give your le I will hunt you down,
Speaker 5: I will find you, and I will hear you.
Speaker 4: That was actually kind of scary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. You could be the voice.
Speaker 4: Though not like not seeing you say.
Speaker 2: But what would happen if you were watching a movie
Speaker 2: on the sidelines as opposed to reading a book?
Speaker 4: I think we were.
Speaker 16: I mean, first off, it's wild because I've never seen
Speaker 16: a player read a book in sidelines before. Again, for
Speaker 16: a lot of different reasons, I've always wondered, like, have
Speaker 16: we got to the point where we allow players like
Speaker 16: listen to music or something to help a little bit too.
Speaker 16: I mean, you see guys doing pregame all the time
Speaker 16: to help them kind of get in that mindset, Like
Speaker 16: maybe that's more of a softer way of your visually
Speaker 16: not necessarily distracted by a book.
Speaker 2: Or would you have a problem if your teammates reading
Speaker 2: a book on the sidelines.
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I don't think that'd be a good thing. I'd
Speaker 16: probably go talk to him and say, hey, man, what's up.
Speaker 16: If it's if it's part of his routine, then you
Speaker 16: got to let some guys do what they do. I
Speaker 16: mean that that's there's a lot of guys who I've
Speaker 16: seen during my time when I played, who had some
Speaker 16: interesting routines and give me.
Speaker 4: Weirdest.
Speaker 3: You don't have to do a name.
Speaker 16: I yeah, there was there's one player who like he
Speaker 16: used to do this tapping sequence to get his like
Speaker 16: mind right, but literally would tap different spots his head
Speaker 16: and supposing that helped him like lock in.
Speaker 4: You know, everyone's got their different thing and the guys
Speaker 4: throw up.
Speaker 16: Yeah, there's there's a little bit of that. But that
Speaker 16: then never stroke struck me as odd. You know, I
Speaker 16: understand the anxiousness or the nerves or excitement, and then
Speaker 16: sometimes you get like a bad play deposter or something
Speaker 16: at the Marriott Hotel where you're staying at.
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Speaker 2: If didn't win the m v P this year, I
Speaker 2: can't see a year where running back.
Speaker 4: Back if you well, you have to have a historical
Speaker 4: season right.
Speaker 3: Only if he broke the record.
Speaker 16: I would actually make more of an argument for like,
Speaker 16: why are we anointing the m v P before the
Speaker 16: season finale? And the only reason I bring that up,
Speaker 16: and I know every is gonna.
Speaker 4: Make the case. Well, you know, hey, this has always
Speaker 4: been a regular season award. I get that.
Speaker 16: But the truth is is we most often times awarded
Speaker 16: to teams were in the playoff hunt. It's the best
Speaker 16: teams are. Like we looked at Joe Burrow this year.
Speaker 16: Joe Burrow statistically should have been a lot more talked
Speaker 16: about in regards to the MVP race. He had a
Speaker 16: phenomenal season. He was carrying that team. Defensively, they struggled,
Speaker 16: obviously they've moved on from lou and yet it was like, well,
Speaker 16: they're not a playoff team, so we can't get him
Speaker 16: the award. It's like, well, all right, well what are
Speaker 16: you doing here? I don't always wait till the end
Speaker 16: of the season, see who wins the super Bowl and
Speaker 16: say like that was the best player. Then sa Quon
Speaker 16: Barkley if they end up winning and he's on that team.
Speaker 2: Well, how many MVPs do you think would have gone
Speaker 2: to different people if we used that concept?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'd have to go back and look through.
Speaker 16: I mean, I guess the easier question prior to research
Speaker 16: is how many went to players that didn't make the playoffs?
Speaker 4: Is there a handful of guys?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 4: Boy?
Speaker 2: Not in the modern era, and I don't think, but
Speaker 2: I remember when Andre Dawson won the MVP for the Cubs.
Speaker 3: They finished last.
Speaker 4: They baseball did it right.
Speaker 2: They could have finished last without him. So it's not
Speaker 2: like wow, there's.
Speaker 4: An element to like, how much did he help his team?
Speaker 4: Excep And I get that. Yeah, but doesn't that make
Speaker 4: an argument for the Super Bowl?
Speaker 9: I have two MVPs and NFL history, that's not qualify
Speaker 9: for the playoffs. Now, it's a long time ago and
Speaker 9: there were fewer playoff teams. Who wants a shot at this?
Speaker 9: Really old school? Before nineteen seventy five, running back one
Speaker 9: running back, one quarterback, you were a fan of both
Speaker 9: of them, Dan.
Speaker 3: Yes, mar oh J.
Speaker 4: Simpsons, Oh J.
Speaker 8: Simpsons. I was going to say, oh, nineteen.
Speaker 9: Seventy three, but he broke the record without making the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Okay wow? And then quarterback.
Speaker 8: Johnny United nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 3: Okay, dang yeah.
Speaker 2: But back then you had two teams that made the
Speaker 2: playoff or again made the playoffs and they played each
Speaker 2: other in the Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah, yeah, or there'd
Speaker 2: be like the NFL and the AFL, you know, back then.
Speaker 16: But I think you get my point, you know, when
Speaker 16: we're looking at at how we're going about qualifying, like
Speaker 16: what is the MVP, it's like and and honestly, this
Speaker 16: conversation kind of was drawn up by Cam and talking
Speaker 16: about like would you trade your MVP for a Super Bowl?
Speaker 16: And his response was probably surprising the most. I mean,
Speaker 16: that's his perspective, that's how he feels. But it led
Speaker 16: me to think, well, all right, let's just look again
Speaker 16: how we're determining who the MVP of the league is.
Speaker 4: Should we wait and make it after the season's all?
Speaker 2: So he could have lost that Super Bowl the way
Speaker 2: he played, or lost the MVP by the way he
Speaker 2: played in the Super.
Speaker 4: Bowl potentially, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Richie Gannon was an MVP and he that.
Speaker 2: Was the year they lost to right or No, was
Speaker 2: it Tampa when he was MVP Mark when they Tampa? Yep,
Speaker 2: so he might have lost it there as well. Yeah,
Speaker 2: how's the shoulder by the way.
Speaker 16: Well, I was gonna say, my attorney will be reaching
Speaker 16: out at some point. I know this is a few
Speaker 16: years better. Are you still He's probably tried to say
Speaker 16: there's a statue of limitation, but I don't think so.
Speaker 4: We've got a we've got a workman's copy issue that's
Speaker 4: going on here.
Speaker 3: Did you hurt your shoulder throwing the ball in Arizona?
Speaker 16: I cannot confirm that. My attorney's told to not say
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