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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Naughty Venicia and the House Run Shooter.

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Speaker 1: And it's Thursday, which means our dear friend Mark Lupo

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Speaker 1: joins us. Hello, are you there?

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Speaker 2: Loopy lewis here?

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Speaker 1: You have a big smile, and I know why he's snarling.

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Speaker 1: Last night you jumped into a big, big, very handsome star.

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Speaker 1: Tell me everything.

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Speaker 2: I sure did so.

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Speaker 3: I was at a really swiaky party last night in

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Speaker 3: Hudson Yards, which is, you know, this big mall complex thing.

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Speaker 3: And I was leaving the party and I was heading

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Speaker 3: to the elevator and guess who I see?

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Speaker 2: Britney Spears is ex and Sam.

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Speaker 1: Sam was he because Hudson Yards is also the home

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Speaker 1: of CNN and HBO. Was he there for the party

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Speaker 1: or was he there doing something else?

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Speaker 3: I think he was there doing something else. He was

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Speaker 3: with a few guys. They were all dressed the same.

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Speaker 3: He was wearing a full of grace and it took

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Speaker 3: me a moment to recognize him because I only have

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Speaker 3: seen him in pictures and videos and it was so funny.

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Speaker 2: He's a really handsome man.

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Speaker 3: Once I made eye contact with him and he realized

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Speaker 3: that I recognized her, he started getting really weird. And

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Speaker 3: he was like trying to get his friends to leave,

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Speaker 3: because I don't think he wanted me to like point

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Speaker 3: it out, but I was like, oh my god, oh

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Speaker 3: my god, Sam, it's literally Sam, And I hate to

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Speaker 3: be this person, but I have to admit he's hot,

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Speaker 3: like in person, he's really and I can see the appeal.

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Speaker 2: His skin is glow glowing, his muscles like all of it.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing when you when you're lucky enough to get

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Speaker 1: to meet celebrities like we do, Mark, there's someone's on

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Speaker 1: that like literally you gasp. Literally when I worked with

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Speaker 1: j Lo, every time I saw her as Jlo, not

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Speaker 1: as Jennifer. As Jennifer, she's a very very pretty, very

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Speaker 1: beautiful person, but when she turns into j Loo and

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Speaker 1: it's the full hair and makeup, gasp. I literally used

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Speaker 1: to just like gasp. I bumped into Hugh Jackman yesterday

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Speaker 1: walking along the Hudson River, and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: start rumors, but he was with Laura Dern Yes, and

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Speaker 1: I know him a little bit, so he knows me

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Speaker 1: to say hello to and run away. He's very smart,

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Speaker 1: and so I was trying to like walk behind them

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Speaker 1: close enough that I could listen and see what they

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Speaker 1: want up to. But he smelled me out right away

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Speaker 1: and he's like, Hi, wrong, And then I pretended I

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Speaker 1: was going in a different direction. Sam's handsOn, I totally

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Speaker 1: totally get it. I wonder what's going to happen to

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Speaker 1: him now after Britney, because you texted me and it's

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Speaker 1: so telling what people say you were like, it's Britney

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Speaker 1: spears his ex. You didn't say his name, like. I

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Speaker 1: think he's famous now because of Brittany, And when that

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Speaker 1: book comes out very shortly, it's all going to be Britney,

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Speaker 1: Britney Brittany.

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Speaker 2: That was the thing is when I saw him.

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Speaker 3: That's why I text you, because he is that kind

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Speaker 3: of conversation piece. He's I don't think it's longevity there.

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Speaker 3: I don't think we're going to talk about him for many,

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Speaker 3: many more years, but he's very topical. As she releases

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Speaker 3: this memoir, we're all kind of of our eyes are

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Speaker 1: Don't want to know who he is the same happened

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Speaker 1: with Kevin Federline. Remember when the whole world was obsessed

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Speaker 1: with this backup dancer, who is the guy that stole

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Speaker 1: one Brittany's heart and for a couple of months, then

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Speaker 1: maybe even six months or a year. I was so

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Speaker 1: fascinated by Kevin Federline. That's where I am with Sam,

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Speaker 1: but it's not gonna last very long. Sam, if you're

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Speaker 1: listening alone, make a lot of money. I hope you

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Speaker 1: were doing business meetings at Hudson Yards. I hope you

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Speaker 1: were nice to my friend Mark Luper. Did your eyes meet.

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Speaker 3: Or our eyes met? And then he darted off into

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Speaker 3: the elevator with his friends.

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Speaker 1: It must be hard, though, because you're not as public

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Speaker 1: as I am. When people see you, they think, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's a very handsome guy. Some people might know you

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Speaker 1: from the podcast, but your Monday to Friday is much

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Speaker 1: more behind the scenes, right, So he didn't run away

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Speaker 1: from you because he was like, oh gosh, there's that dreadful,

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Speaker 1: gossipy goose over there. So it makes me almost think,

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Speaker 1: is he just running away from everybody? Maybe?

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Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was just one of those things where

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Speaker 3: he definitely saw that I recognized.

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Speaker 1: Oh you could see it that, Yeah, is he super tall?

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Speaker 3: He looks like a regular guy until you look like

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Speaker 3: you squint and you're like, wow, this guy is actually

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Speaker 3: beautiful like he because all his friends are just the

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Speaker 1: A bunch of just handsome people. Yeah, I bet you

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Speaker 1: thought you were flirting. If your boyfriend's listening Allo Kevin Jonas.

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Speaker 1: Once again you should point out it's not the Kevin

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Speaker 1: because people do get confused, and I don't want a

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Speaker 1: lawsuit if you're listening Kevin Jonas both of them. And

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Speaker 1: so yeah, sometimes people people I hate to see. It

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Speaker 1: makes me feel bad for celebrities or famous people that

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Speaker 1: they feel like they've always got to run away. What

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Speaker 1: sort of life is that?

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Speaker 3: That's funny because Kevin was there with me and I

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Speaker 3: was like, Kevin, Kevin, I'm like, it's Britty Spears's ex

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Speaker 3: and he goes, who hopeless.

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Speaker 1: You've got to listen to more episodes Kevin, this show,

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Speaker 1: I know to speed and all your celebrity gossip, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: because when I meet you, I've got a lot of questions.

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Speaker 1: What time is it, my friend? It is tea time

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Speaker 1: time bombshell story at the top of the show, nobody

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Speaker 1: saw this coming. John Stamus has a book out and

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Speaker 1: to People Magazine he's previewed some of the book and

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Speaker 1: he said he was shattered when he got divorced. He

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Speaker 1: was so upset when Hay broke up with Rebecca remained staymos.

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Speaker 1: Remember that then he thought she was the devil and

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Speaker 1: he hated her. He said, quote, I just hated her.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe how much I hated her. It ruined

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Speaker 1: my life. So the couple separated in two thousand and

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Speaker 1: four after five years of marriage. They finalized their divorce

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Speaker 1: just a few months later in two thousand and five.

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Speaker 1: He said the breakup was shattering for way too long.

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Speaker 1: It went on for years and years, although it really didn't.

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Speaker 1: years and years Brad and Angelina Joelene. It felt like

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Speaker 1: quite quick. But it doesn't matter what I think or

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Speaker 1: even what is the reality. To John, it felt like

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Speaker 1: it went on and on and on, and noting that

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Speaker 1: he did play a part in the split, so he's

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Speaker 1: omitting that, he said, there was an opinion out there,

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Speaker 1: but she dumped him because her prea was hot, hot, hot,

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Speaker 1: and he wasn't remember that when she almost became a

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Speaker 1: movie star, she did some Marvel movies. She exploded. She

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Speaker 1: quite powerful actress, and he said at the same time,

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Speaker 1: his career was going nowhere. And he said, I don't

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Speaker 1: blame afore it, but the perception was out there, and

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Speaker 1: he said, maybe it was wrong, but she was sort

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Speaker 1: of doing great and I wasn't. Johnny is now sober.

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Speaker 1: He said that after the divorce, after the split, he

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Speaker 1: drank a lot, and he since quote straightened up now.

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Speaker 1: He should point out too that Rebecca has gone on

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Speaker 1: to marry Jerry O'Connell, who I love, and they have

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Speaker 1: twin daughters together, Dolly and Charlie. So the end result

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Speaker 1: here is that everybody's happy. I love a happy ending,

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Speaker 1: but this.

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Speaker 3: Was messy, messy. I mean, I don't know john Steam

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Speaker 3: was to speak like this. I was pretty shocked to

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Speaker 3: hear that he called her the devil. And also I'm

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Speaker 3: still curious to know what exactly happened, like what caused

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Speaker 3: this split. But you know, Rob, I'm sure you've seen

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Speaker 3: this many celebrity couples. When one is doing great and

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Speaker 3: gets envious. They want that the same attention, they want

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Speaker 3: that same power, and you know, it causes an interesting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew by was working for Jessica Simpson. I

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Speaker 1: knew that she was done with Nick Lachet when we

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Speaker 1: and every photographer screamed Jessica, Jessica solo shots jess Nick

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Speaker 1: out of the way Nick and Nick ended up standing

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Speaker 1: on the side holding her coat and bag, and you

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Speaker 1: could see it in his eyes. I mean it's quite like,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't sort of talk down Nick of

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Speaker 1: this because I was like, gosh, how would that feel like?

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Speaker 1: Remember before they got married, he was the biggest star

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Speaker 1: she people really didn't know. She was sort of like

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Speaker 1: a ballist Britney Spears. But when that reality show came out,

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Speaker 1: Jessica became a superstar. So I do sort of get this.

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Speaker 1: Now I've got the more gossip. I was an assistant,

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Speaker 1: a receptionist, really low down on the level at a

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Speaker 1: PR company that repped Rebecca remains Staymoss and one of

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Speaker 1: my very first gigs. One of my very first really

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Speaker 1: assignments as a publicist was to cover a photo shoot

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Speaker 1: that Rebecca was doing. I think it was for GQ,

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Speaker 1: and I remember turning and put the shoots and there

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Speaker 1: there because everybody else is doing all the work. And

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Speaker 1: she wasn't very nice to me. No, And to this

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Speaker 1: day I've sort of like held onto it. So I'm

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Speaker 1: so young, you know, when people hurt you and you're

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Speaker 1: vulnerable at the beginning. Give your career. Now, if someone's

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Speaker 1: turned a put this photo shoot. My eyes were huge.

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Speaker 1: It was like in The Devil Wears Prada. In the beginning,

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Speaker 1: my eyes were so big. I had like a bad

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Speaker 1: sweater on, I had like the notepad I was taking

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Speaker 1: and I went over to Rebecca to say, I'm your visist.

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Speaker 1: I worked for blah blah blah. And she was really

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Speaker 1: not nice. That she could have just been having a

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Speaker 1: bad day. So you never know if people don't you.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give her the benefit of the doubt

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Speaker 1: and say it was just a bad day. Although John

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Speaker 1: now has has peaked my interest. Maybe before she hurt Drud,

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Speaker 1: she hurt Rob Shute.

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Speaker 2: Oh my God, I love you. Hold on to this

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Speaker 2: for so long?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I talk. I preach on this show in

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Speaker 1: the moment of Rob to like, don't hold a grudge,

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Speaker 1: move on, And I thought I had until I started

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Speaker 1: reading this story. Until I started reading this book, and

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Speaker 1: it picked a bit of a scab for me. Rebecca,

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Speaker 1: if you're listening, you owe me some flowmers. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: want to know what you have to think about this.

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Speaker 1: Shattered John Stamos. So it's so dramatic. That's such a

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Speaker 1: table word. I love it. Shattered. John tap Stamos hated

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Speaker 1: Rebecca remain during the divorce. Oh should she tell her

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Speaker 1: side of the story, because, as he admits in the book,

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Speaker 1: he was partly to blame too. I sort of like

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Speaker 1: love and hate this at the same time. When friends

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Speaker 1: of mine break up and they tell me all their stories,

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Speaker 1: I love it. I'll scooby doo and then I get

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Speaker 1: to speak to the other person and it's a completely

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Speaker 1: different story.

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Speaker 2: It always is, yes.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I just love it the swiftest. There's

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Speaker 3: Really intimate details and Rob. So I'm wondering, as someone

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Speaker 1: We talked about Britney Spears revealing that she had in

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Speaker 1: You know, it all comes full circle on the Naughty

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