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Speaker 1: Live authentically and enjoy every single moment. Instead of striving

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Speaker 2: What is Shagan emilya Bodi Here? You are listening to

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Speaker 2: episode two hundred and forty two of Hurdle, a wellness

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Speaker 2: top experts and industry CEOs about their highest highs, toughest moments,

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Speaker 2: and everything in between. We all go through hurdles in life,

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Speaker 2: and my goal through these discussions is to empower you

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 2: through your head when you stepped on the stage for

439
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 2: your first audition.

440
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I didn't even want to go

441
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 1: to the audition. My mom dragged me there like practically

442
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: forced me. I was so angry with her because I

443
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: was like, Mom, this is so embarrassing. I'm not going

444
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 1: to make it, and then I'm gonna have to tell

445
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 1: all my friends I went to the audition and didn't

446
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 1: make it. But thank goodness that moms are just the

447
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: way they are, because she was like, Nope, you're doing it,

448
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 1: and we're going right now. And I remember, I think

449
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 1: I had very low expectations, but at the same time,

450
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: I was always a very very competitive person, so like

451
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: I went into it going like I'm probably not gonna

452
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: make it, but like in the back of my mind,

453
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm going to give this my all,

454
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: Like I'm going for it. So it's kind of this

455
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 1: like fifty to fifty mentality, but very nerve wracking. And

456
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: it was the first time I'd really done anything outside

457
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 1: of like my little dance competition world at my dance studio,

458
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 1: so it was a definite like shift and it was scary,

459
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: but gosh, I am very grateful that I went for

460
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: it because that was the catalyst to my entire dancing

461
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: career for sure.

462
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 2: Which like goes on to be mega impressive. I mean

463
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 2: starting off right after so you think you can dance.

464
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 3: Going on the thirty City Tour, yes, So what was

465
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 3: that like at I mean, you were so young to

466
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 3: jump into something like.

467
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: That, so that was crazy. I have done I think

468
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: five tours now since then, but that first one was

469
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: something else because first of all, I'm eighteen. I have

470
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: never lived not at my home with my parents, and

471
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: now I am on a bus with like thirteen other

472
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: teenagers mid twenties, like, and we're just traveling the country.

473
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: We're dancing every single night, We're doing our laundry and

474
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: different like theaters, were kind of fending for ourselves, and

475
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: it was a very interesting time but also so fun.

476
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: Like I think back in some of those memories are

477
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: like the best ever, but when you're in it, you're like,

478
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: this is so hard, this is so rough. But I

479
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: look back and I'm like, that was such a fun,

480
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: pivotal time in my life and just a really cool

481
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: way to like interact. And I think the craziest thing

482
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: for me was being on the TV show was very cool.

483
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: But you're in a studio and I mean there's a

484
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 1: couple of people in the audience, so you don't really

485
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 1: grasp like the magnitude of what you're doing, but then

486
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 1: you go on tour and you fill theaters with thousands

487
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: and thousands of people and their fans and they're excited

488
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: to see you. And that's where I feel like I

489
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: kind of was like whoa, Like, this is actually pretty

490
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: cool what I'm able to do, and I'm really grateful that,

491
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 1: like my talent has brought me to this platform that

492
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: I've only dreamed about doing for so long. So it

493
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: was a very cool experience.

494
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 3: You grew up in Utah and you live in Utah now,

495
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 3: So in that experience being able to literally travel all

496
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 3: over the country, what do you recall as something that

497
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 3: was perhaps the most overwhelming part of it all.

498
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: Oh, I think, so I grew up in Utah and

499
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: all of my family is here, like, and I'm a

500
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 1: very family oriented, like huge homebody. I think the most

501
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: overwhelming part for me was being away from family for

502
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: so long. It was very tough for me. I think

503
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: it was just like, I think it was a mixture

504
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: of things of like being with people that I liked,

505
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: but it's not like they were my family, and they

506
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: were also new friends. Like all of them were people

507
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: that I had just recently met, and now I'm living

508
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: with them in close quarters. They were all so awesome,

509
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: but it's just I think there was a lot of

510
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: like just new things going on, and it was something

511
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: that I had to really learn because then from there

512
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: it was like I wasn't then home back in Utah

513
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: for almost five years after that. So I think it

514
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: was a good like tease to get me ready for Okay, hey,

515
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: like this is your moment. You got you gotta make

516
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 1: that jump and you gotta put on your big girl

517
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 1: pants and do this thing.

518
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, ten years has passed since your first season of

519
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars.

520
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 3: Where were you when you got that call?

521
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: I will never forget this because it was actually pretty insane.

522
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 1: So I had just gotten back from this, so you

523
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: think you can dance store? Maybe a month prior I

524
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: was home and I had had maybe maybe like two

525
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 1: conversations with the producers from Dancing with the Stars. One

526
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: of them initially be and like, we're kind of interested

527
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 1: in you for the season, Like is that something you'd

528
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: want to do, And it was like, yes, I am,

529
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: but then not like a ton of follow up after that,

530
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: and then another call where they're like, hey, like we're

531
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: trying to We're just like checking availability, making sure you're

532
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: still interested. Yes, okay cool. Then I get a text.

533
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: So all of this before was email, which email makes

534
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: it feel very like, you know, disconnected. You're just kind

535
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: of like, hey, they're probably sending this like a mass

536
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: email to a bunch of people. But then I remember

537
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: the day I get a text message from one of

538
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: the main producers and she was like, I need to

539
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: know this answer quick. How tall are you? I was like,

540
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: that's weird. Text back right away. Get a call two

541
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: minutes later. Hey, just wanted to let you know we

542
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: have a partner for you and we need you in

543
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: La tomorrow to start rehearsing with your partner. And I

544
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I was like playing it so cool, Like, okay,

545
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: that's great, I'll be there, thank you. I hang up.

546
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: My mom and dad are in the room. We're sitting

547
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: in their kitchen and we're just like, what am I

548
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: gonna freaking do. I'm in Utah, I don't have an

549
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: apartment and I have no like I didn't even like

550
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: have that on my radar. Thankfully, they followed up and

551
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: they're like, we know this is the last minute we're

552
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: going to get you an apartment, but we do need

553
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: you down here? So I packed up my car that night.

554
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: I remember all of my boyfriend who is now my

555
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: husband at the time, and like a couple of our

556
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: friends came over to my house helped me pack up

557
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: literally basically my entire room because I'd be going down

558
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: there for about four months. Packed up my car, and

559
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: the next morning I drove the ten hour drive to

560
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: LA by myself and started rehearsing with my partner. It

561
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: was absolutely insane but so fun.

562
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 3: Where what area did you first move to?

563
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: So? I lived in West Hollywood pretty much the only time. Like,

564
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 1: that's the only place I lived in in California while

565
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: doing the show because they film in West Hollywood, so

566
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: it just makes sense to be there. I will say

567
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: that's probably not ever going to be my first choice

568
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: of living, but it makes sense for what I had

569
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: to do.

570
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 3: Why do you see that?

571
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: I think it goes back to I don't know. I

572
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: think I'm from Utah. I like open spaces, I like neighborhoods,

573
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: I like family vibe. None of that. In West Hollywood.

574
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: You are very close together. There is no grass literally anywhere.

575
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: So I think it was just the kind of a

576
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: culture shock for me. And like this is completely different,

577
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: but it also has a lot of really fun perks,

578
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: Like the food is absolutely incredible. And then I mean

579
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 1: that's where I do what I do, Like for what

580
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: I can get done there, it is incredible. And I

581
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: always say that I'm like, for what I was able

582
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: to do in in that space, I'm so so grateful.

583
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: But if I had my choice to live somewhere in California,

584
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: I don't think it would be West Hollywood.

585
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: It would definitely be somewhere closer to the beach or

586
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 3: something sounds about right.

587
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: So you had experience being on television with So You

588
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 2: Think You Can Dance? When you start dancing on Dancing

589
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: with the Stars, is it very different for you?

590
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: So yes, very different, only because the workload was completely

591
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: different than what I was used to on Soay. You think,

592
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: I'm very grateful for So You Think you Can Dance

593
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: because it kind of got my like my virgin dancing,

594
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: like non professional dancing mode out, Like I no longer

595
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: was someone who had never danced on TV before or

596
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,479
Speaker 1: who had been interviewed on television. I feel like So

597
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: You Think You Can Dance was like my little mini

598
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: audition in preparation to do Dancing with the Stars because

599
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: the time. By the time that came around, I felt

600
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: way more confident, like talking on camera, dancing in front

601
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: of people watching on TV, like it was something that

602
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: didn't feel so foreign. But the workload was totally different.

603
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: And so you think you can dance. I was just

604
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: a dancer. I showed up, the choreographer told me what

605
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: to do, and I just went out and danced. And

606
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: I was also dancing with another dancer. So it was

607
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,239
Speaker 1: very much similar to what I'd done growing up, Like

608
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: somebody gives me a piece of choreography and I perform

609
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: it the best that I can. On Dancing with the Stars,

610
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: it's totally different. It's I'm the teacher and I'm also

611
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: the dancer, and I'm also the choreographer. So I walk

612
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: into a room with someone who's never done this before.

613
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: I have to teach them how to do it after

614
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: I choreographed what we're going to do, and then I

615
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: also have to dance it with them, and then we

616
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: have to get judged on it, and people are going

617
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: to tell me if they think my choreography sucked or

618
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,719
Speaker 1: if I'm a bad teacher. So it was a lot.

619
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: I would say a lot more pressure on Dancing with

620
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: the Stars because a lot of things fell on my shoulders,

621
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: and I mean, well pretty much everything fell on my shoulders.

622
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: So I would say it was very different in that way.

623
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 3: Very different in that way.

624
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: And then with this platform where you are on television

625
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: every week, you are also now at a point where

626
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: you're starting to open yourself up to criticism, something that

627
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 2: you know, you are very familiar with these days. What

628
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: have you learned over the years in handling unsolicited feedback, criticism,

629
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: so on and so forth.

630
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. I will say that I'm grateful to

631
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: have had the practice I had back in the day,

632
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: because I mean, I feel like, back in twenty thirteen,

633
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 1: like social media was there, but it wasn't what it

634
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: is now. And I feel like the practice I got

635
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: in all of those years leading up to what we're

636
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: currently in now, social media is just this entirely new thing,

637
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: and the amount of criticism I receive on a daily

638
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: basis now is absolutely insane. And I think because of

639
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: those years prior, where I kind of got used to it,

640
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: it's been easier to handle it. I've always tried to

641
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: attack criticism with a bit of humor, and I think

642
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: that's something that's just kind of my personality. I know

643
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: that that's not always the way that people can take it,

644
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: but I always try to just kind of, you know,

645
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: see maybe a funny side to it, look at kind

646
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: of like the humor in it, like oh wow, like

647
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: I can't believe they took that much time to think

648
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: about that, or I can't believe they came up with that,

649
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: and try to kind of play it in that way.

650
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: But the biggest thing that I think has helped me

651
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: is just understanding and focusing more on the fact that

652
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: these people don't even know me at all, and the

653
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: only opinions that matter are the people who genuinely know

654
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: me and that are in my life because they love

655
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: me and they know who I am as a person

656
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657
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658
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659
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661
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,080
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663
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666
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667
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668
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,480
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671
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734
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Speaker 2: so firm in knowing the best way for you to navigate.

735
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Speaker 2: And I'll use air quotes here like the haters. But

736
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: was there an instance for you where you didn't feel

737
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: so shiny and strong that really made you change the

738
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: way that you handle your approach.

739
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: Yes, so, actually this happened in my early years of

740
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars, so it was a mixture of

741
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: criticism from online and also from people in the industry.

742
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: But I so on Dancing with the Stars, there are

743
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: two different kind of jobs roles that you can have

744
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: as a dancer. So you can go on and be

745
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: a professional dancer that gets paired with a celebrity partner,

746
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: or you can be a dancer that is kind of

747
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: like a backup so you don't get a partner, but

748
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: you're dancing in the episodes and you're kind of like

749
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: maybe in some of the group numbers or maybe in

750
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: the background of some of the people's dances. It's basically

751
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 1: like you're a background dancer. So my very first season

752
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: of the show, I got paired with a celebrity partner,

753
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: which is like the top, like, that's what you want,

754
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: that's the job you want. And then for the next like,

755
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: oh what was it? Four seasons after that, I got demoted,

756
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: as one would say, to the true position, which is

757
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: the background dancer. And that was a really really tough

758
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: time for me. Tough because a lot of people would

759
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: comment on it and be like, Oh, it's because she

760
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: wasn't good enough, she didn't do a good enough job

761
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: at the being a pro, or if she would have

762
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: done this, then she probably wouldn't have done that, or

763
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: messaging me telling me what I should be doing so

764
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: that I could be a pro again, like lindsay do

765
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: this this season so that you could do that. And

766
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: the feedback I got from the industry and from the

767
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: people kind of around me was that I didn't really

768
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: have like enough. I wasn't showing enough of my personality.

769
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: And that was really weird for me because I'm like,

770
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: what do you mean, Like, I'm just being myself? Like

771
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: how does one sh their personality if they're just being themselves?

772
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: Like it kind of put me in this weird headspace

773
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: and made me feel like I needed to maybe be

774
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 1: more of something. And I feel like for a while

775
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: there I kind of chase this like personality that I

776
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: thought everybody wanted me to be, and finally I was like, well,

777
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: screw it, because it's not working and I'm not happy

778
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: at all, So I'm just going to be myself and

779
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: just be confident in that, be happy in that. And

780
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Speaker 1: that's when I realized that it wasn't a lack of

781
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: like me not having enough personality. It was just me

782
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: genuinely going, you know what, like be yourself and don't

783
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: worry or care about what other people think. Have confidence

784
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: in yourself. No, you're enough and crazy enough that next

785
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: season I got brought back up to being a pro. Now,

786
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that like that was a result of that,

787
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: and I don't and I'm also not saying that, like,

788
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: if you do everything right, you're going to get exactly

789
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: what you want out of your career. But for me,

790
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: it was such a good realization of understanding at that moment, like,

791
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: no matter what happens, I want to be happy. I

792
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: want to be content in who I am, and if

793
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: I if being me isn't enough, then this isn't the

794
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: right job for me. And that mentality I think changed

795
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: the game for me with my career, knowing that whatever

796
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: I step into, if I can be genuine to myself,

797
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: if it works out for me, then awesome. But if

798
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't, then that means that this wasn't the right

799
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: job for me.

800
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: We all at times struggle with being like, let's call

801
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 2: it truly happy, right with avoiding negative self talk and

802
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 2: trying not to beat down that inner critic.

803
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,479
Speaker 3: For you, what helped you.

804
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: Get more comfortable in your own skin and be your

805
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 2: authentic self?

806
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 1: I think it was a mixture of sort of being

807
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: fed up of trying so hard to be something I'm not.

808
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: I think I got to the like a breaking point

809
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: of just being like I am miserable, like I am

810
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 1: chasing something that isn't me, and then realizing like if

811
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: I change who I am to get something that I want,

812
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: am I even going to be happy once I get there?

813
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: Or am I just going to continue living inauthentically to

814
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: have this thing that I really want? And that was

815
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: a huge realization for me. Is just like understanding that

816
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: like feeling content and feeling authentic in your life is

817
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: more important than anything else. And yes, it might feel

818
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: good for a while for short term to get this

819
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: thing that you want and kind of maybe play a

820
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 1: role that you think is what you should be doing,

821
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, it's not long

822
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: term happiness and that's what we all need and what

823
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: we kind of strive for. So I think that was

824
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: a big I don't know, I feel like that was

825
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: a turning point. It's just kind of possibly just being

826
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: fed up with not being authentic. And also a huge

827
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: actor was my family, my then boyfriend but now husband

828
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: saying to me, like lindsay like, this is not you, like,

829
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: this is not you. Like even if this works out

830
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: for you the way that you want it to, like,

831
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: you're not happy. And I think that was something that

832
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: was really big. Is leaning on the people around you

833
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: who know you and listening to their advice and you know,

834
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: helping them keep you in check is something that's been

835
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: really beneficial for me in my life.

836
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: How did that stress manifest for you? How did it

837
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 2: play out or impact you.

838
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing was just my like literal

839
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: general overall well being and happiness, Like every day waking

840
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: up felt like kind of had like a cloud over me,

841
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: like I just was like a little like muted version

842
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: of who I truly was. And I also think it

843
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: affected my work, like I know it did. I know

844
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: it affected the way I was as a performer as

845
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: a dancer, because that confidence level wasn't necessarily there anymore.

846
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: I think it was like very shaded and just kind

847
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: of like trying to grasp whatever it could find, but

848
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't there. And I think that it really affected

849
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: the way that I approached my job every single day.

850
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: And a huge thing for me was just getting stuck

851
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: in negativity. I one of the biggest factors was knowing,

852
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 1: like and recognizing like how negative I was about everything.

853
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: And what's crazy I think was at the time I

854
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: was doing still what is considered one of the most

855
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: incredible jobs to do as a dancer, and I was not.

856
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: I was taking it for granted in a way in

857
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: the sense that I don't think I was being grateful

858
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: for where I was because I was reaching so hard

859
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: to get to something else. And I hate that I

860
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: took any time being ungrateful for the position that I

861
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: was in.

862
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 3: I recently had a woman on the show.

863
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: Her name's Mina b and she talked a lot about

864
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 2: the concept that if you're not honest with yourself, then

865
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: you are bound for self sabotage. Right, So, even if

866
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: you can articulate whatever it is that you think that

867
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: you want, that you think that your goals are, if

868
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: you're not honest with yourself about where you're at or

869
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 2: maybe the means that going after that goal will require,

870
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 2: then your only destiny is to not get exactly what

871
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: you want.

872
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: It's so true, It's so true.

873
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 3: This is all ten years ago.

874
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: So ce the music over a montage of your outstanding

875
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: at long, lengthy career on Dancing with the Stars. What

876
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 2: would you say has been one of the biggest lessons

877
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 2: that you take with you from that time on the show.

878
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, so many things. I feel like I

879
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: learned so much. It's like so many good life lessons

880
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: on Dancing with the Stars. This is going to sound silly,

881
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: but like, I am a firm believer that the patients

882
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: and kind of like the endurance that I had to

883
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: learn on Dancing with the Stars has helped me beyond

884
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: in motherhood. I know that's kind of a weird connection,

885
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: but the patience you have to learn on Dancing with

886
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: the Stars is huge. And I'm not even saying this

887
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: in a way of like because it's just awful. I'm

888
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: saying it because it requires so much patience to teach

889
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: somebody a new skill that they've never done before. It

890
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: requires a lot of guidance and reassurance and some empathy

891
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: to really take somebody through that process like that is tough.

892
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: I think over the years on Dancing with the Stars

893
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: really becoming very empathetic and like sympathizing for my partners,

894
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: not because they were doing something they didn't want to do,

895
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 1: but because it's very tough to put yourself out there

896
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: to try something new, to do it on national television,

897
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: to get judged for it, and it's a very strenuous process. So,

898
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: like the empathy and kind of the like the sensitivity

899
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: that I learned and gained and the patients was has

900
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: just been so beneficial because going into motherhood, I mean,

901
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: that's every single day is patience and being sensitive and

902
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: being understanding, and so that was really cool for me.

903
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: But then also I think like it's one of those

904
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 1: shows where it's live, so that show is coming around

905
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: no matter what, no matter if you're ready no matter

906
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: if you finish your dance, no matter if like everything

907
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 1: works out whether or not, like everything's fine, You're still

908
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: going to perform every Monday night. There's no redos, there's

909
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: no like, oh I'm not ready. It's like you've got

910
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: to make it happen. And I'm really grateful for that

911
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: because it gave me this sense of like, you can

912
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: do anything, Like I truly am very and I always

913
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: tell my partners that, or I would tell them that, like

914
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the week, like I know that

915
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: this seems impossible, but I promise you that we're going

916
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: to do this rough week and it will happen, Like

917
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: it is going to happen, and you will get through this.

918
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: And it's been it's been a really good like mentality

919
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: through all the other stressful things in my life of like,

920
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: it's going to happen, so we're going to do it,

921
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: and you can make it happen. So I think it

922
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: gave me a lot of confidence in knowing that, like,

923
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: even when things feel like they're absolutely not going to

924
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: work out, it's going to happen either way, and you're

925
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: going to make it happen. And that confidence has been

926
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: very beneficial for me.

927
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it sounds like perseverance, persistence, and really a

928
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 2: huge lesson and accepting the things that you can't change, right, Like,

929
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 2: you're going to have to step out and perform this

930
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 2: dance live on national television, so you might as well

931
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: make the best you can of the situation.

932
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: That is such a good way of putting it, because

933
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: that's the truth. It's like, I can't change it no

934
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: matter what. And there was a lot of things I

935
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: couldn't change. I couldn't change if I got a partner

936
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 1: that season that had a little dance experience, I couldn't

937
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: or maybe they had nothing at all. I couldn't change

938
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: if they were really good at dancing or really bad

939
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: at dancing. All all I could do was just do

940
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: what needed to be done and swerve and make adjustments

941
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: and change things as we go to make it work.

942
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: And I think that has been really helpful for me,

943
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: because life is never going to go the way you

944
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: want it to, So being able to like adjust instead

945
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: of shut down is a really good thing that I

946
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: feel like I've been able to do from that.

947
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, And just to make sure that we clarify this,

948
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: you have no insight as to who your partner is

949
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: going to be until very shortly before meeting them, right.

950
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: Literally no insight. The earliest I've ever been told who

951
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: my partner was was like the night before a morning

952
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: rehearsal where I met them. But typically you show up

953
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: to the meeting and they tell you like ten minutes

954
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: before your partner walks in the door, like, Okay, this

955
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: is your partner. You have no insight, you have no

956
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: like I want this person. It's just that out of

957
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: your hands. And I'm very grateful. Though I always say this,

958
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: and I feel like people don't believe me to think

959
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this because I have to, but I'm like,

960
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: I really don't have to say this. I have been

961
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: blessed with some of the most awesome partners, not because

962
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: they were all good dancers, because in fact, a lot

963
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: of them were terrible dancers, and I'd say that to

964
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: their face, so I'm not even being rude here. A

965
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: lot of them were not good dancers, but the most genuine, kind,

966
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: good people, and that has been a lifesaver because to me,

967
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: that matters more than anything. I'm like, I can teach

968
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: you how to dance, but I can't teach you how

969
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: to be a nice person. So if you have that,

970
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: then we are going to have a great season.

971
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 2: How would you say that the lessons of perseverance and

972
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: persistence and persistence showed up for you during the pandemic.

973
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: I think the persistence was just the biggest thing because

974
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: understanding that we've got to press forward and finding ways

975
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: getting creative, keeping myself busy, and that was a huge

976
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: part of what pushed me into creating my program, the

977
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: Movement Club. Was being in my home, pregnant for the

978
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: first time, not able to go to a gym, not

979
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 1: having any dance opportunities at the time, and really just

980
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: feeling like, well, what am I going to do. I

981
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: need to make sure I move in my body. I

982
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: need to stay sane, I need to find things for

983
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: myself that I can do. And I would say that

984
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: was one of the most pivotal years for me in

985
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: my career. It's where I started my workout program. I

986
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 1: completely evolved and kind of changed and shift my mentality

987
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: around fitness. I really dove into a lot of different

988
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: aspects of my career on social media and sharing on

989
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: different platforms because I understood like, hey, we've got to

990
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: we can't shut down. We've got to adapt, we've got

991
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: to change, and we've got to find what we can

992
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: do to make this work and to push through this time.

993
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: And I'm really grateful for that, because I think a

994
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: lot of people did that, and I think it was

995
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: a really pivotal time for a lot of people, as

996
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: well as being the most difficult time for a lot

997
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: of people. But for me, I'm grateful for the changes

998
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: I made during that time.

999
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 2: What was it like for you to film Dancing with

1000
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: the Stars during the pandemic?

1001
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: So that was very interesting, very very different. That was

1002
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: so I missed the first season that they filmed during

1003
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 1: the pandemic because I was pregnant, But then the next

1004
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: season was still during the pandemic. Things had definitely slowed

1005
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: down a bit, so I know that the protocols were

1006
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: even a little bit less intense as they were that

1007
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: time where I missed while I was pregnant. But it

1008
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: completely changed. It was a very different show, different experience,

1009
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: mostly in the sense that we couldn't interact with any

1010
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: of the other dancers or celebrities, which is so weird

1011
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: because that is something about the show that is like

1012
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: so much what the show is about is everybody just

1013
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: being together, being a family, hanging out, like doing rehearsals together,

1014
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: sitting on the couch, eating snacks after rehearsal together. So

1015
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: that was definitely a different thing. But then it was

1016
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: also very interesting because I feel like then me and

1017
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: my partner relied on each other even more because it

1018
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: was just us and I had the best partner that season,

1019
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: Matt James. He's actually him and Rachel are actually staying

1020
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: at our house right now visiting. So it's like really

1021
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: cool because he became a lifelong friend and it's cool.

1022
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: So it shifted in some ways, but it was also

1023
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: really special in other ways.

1024
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt and I are friendly, so tell him. Emily

1025
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 2: from Hurdle says, what's up. Well, for sure, we heard

1026
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 2: so much about your time during the pandemic and what

1027
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 2: it was like to be doing the same thing. I'll

1028
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 2: bite quite differently. You also mentioned pivoting and getting more

1029
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: into different types of content creation. Can you talk to

1030
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 2: us a little bit about what that's been like for

1031
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 2: you and maybe some of the challenges that have come

1032
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: hand in hand with that shift.

1033
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 1: Yes, I think the biggest shift was before the pandemic,

1034
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: which was Cohen's Literally I found out I was pregnant

1035
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: two days before the world shut down, Like I was

1036
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: on Dancing with the Stars tour. I remember taking the test.

1037
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: The next day, we got our tour manager kind of

1038
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: gathered us and was like, just say, you know, this

1039
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: is happening, and we were probably gonna have to pause

1040
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: the tour for two weeks, because remember it was just

1041
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: going to be two weeks. But he's like, we're gonna

1042
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: probably have to send you guys home for two weeks

1043
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: and then we'll get you back out. And we were

1044
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: like okay. Then the next day completely evolved, You're going

1045
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: home tomorrow, We're done with the tour, go home, then

1046
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: we go home. We kind of were waiting and like

1047
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: waiting to hear if we were going back out. Eventually

1048
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: obviously got completely canceled. But it's crazy how my pregnancy

1049
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: and the pandemic were like completely in sync at the

1050
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: same time. Before the pandemic, it's like anything I'd share

1051
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: on social media was I would say ninety percent about dance.

1052
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: It was about Dancing with the Stars. It was just

1053
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: about that, because I figured that's the only reason people

1054
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: followed me was to hear about that. Kind of stuff.

1055
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: Then going home getting pregnant, knowing I'm like, well, I'm

1056
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: not going to be doing Dancing with the Stars next season,

1057
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: so are people even going to care to like see

1058
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: what I have to say? But then I'm like, yeah,

1059
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: like we're going to go for this. And it was

1060
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: a complete shift of like opening up a whole new

1061
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: world to my followers into on all my platforms. Around

1062
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: the same time, my sisters and I started a YouTube channel,

1063
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: which was really special because I feel like that started

1064
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: to bring a new element of who I was into

1065
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: kind of the space. But then during the pandemic, it

1066
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: was huge. It shifted from talking about Dance with the

1067
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: Stars and dance dance and sants to guys, I'm pregnant,

1068
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: Like this is my pregnance, my pregnant self that I'm

1069
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: going to share my journey. And that's kind of where

1070
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 1: it all started was I just decided, I'm like, maybe

1071
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: people won't care, but I'm going to really just like

1072
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: go for it. I'm going to share my whole pregnancy journey.

1073
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: I want to let people in on my life and

1074
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: start to help them get to know me a little

1075
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 1: bit more on a personal level, which was scary because

1076
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: that definitely opened up a lot more can of worms

1077
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 1: than I was ready for the amount of hate I've

1078
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: gotten since sharing about pregnancy is way more than anything

1079
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: else I ever dealt with in my life. Like pregnancy

1080
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: shamers is a thing, mom shaming is a thing. Kid

1081
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: shaming is a thing, which I'm like, no, it should

1082
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: not be a thing. But I think the biggest, like

1083
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: the hurdle for me was just going, Okay, do people

1084
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: even care about other parts of my life or do

1085
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: they only follow me because I am this dancer from

1086
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars. And I'm really grateful that I

1087
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: went for it because I have come to discover that

1088
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: it's actually been even better since I've started to open

1089
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 1: up and share my life and go into new channels

1090
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,720
Speaker 1: and kind of expand the way that I share my life.

1091
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 1: That was a huge shift for me. I would say

1092
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: it mostly started on Instagram because that was just the thing,

1093
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: but then really work to grow a YouTube channel. My

1094
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: sister and I did a podcast for a little bit

1095
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: starting on TikTok. Even though I tried so hard to

1096
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: fight it, I really did. I was like, I hate

1097
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: this app. I can't And then finally I'm like I

1098
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: like this app, We're totally going for it. But I

1099
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: think just understanding and recognizing like people want to see authentic, genuine,

1100
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: real people. They don't want to see perfectly curated things.

1101
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: And it was comforting for me because I think for

1102
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: a while there it was like, do people care about

1103
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: anything about me other than dancing? And also do I

1104
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: have to make everything look perfect in order for it

1105
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: to be like instagram worthy? And I'm really grateful that

1106
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 1: I didn't, because my life is not perfect. It's messy,

1107
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: And I think that's been the biggest that's been the

1108
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: biggest positive in my social media career is just understanding

1109
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: that I can be fully authentic with my followers, and

1110
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,919
Speaker 1: it's pushed me to levels that I think I didn't

1111
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: know I could even get to, So that's been great.

1112
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: It's really interesting to hear you share your hesitation in

1113
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 2: that because at the top of this we are talking

1114
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 2: about you owning all of these pivots and really stepping

1115
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 2: into with excitement this chapter of motherhood and content and

1116
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 2: like all of the different business ventures and the movement club,

1117
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 2: like there was so much excitement there, But then to

1118
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: hear you express this hesitancy about sharing all of that

1119
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 2: with people online. It's refreshing and it's beautiful, and I

1120
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: would be curious to know what advice you would offer

1121
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 2: to others who are trying to embrace being their fully

1122
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 2: authentic self.

1123
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: It is so true. I'm glad you brought that up

1124
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: because I think, like, right now, I'm just so grateful

1125
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: for all the things that have going on. I love

1126
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: them all. But it's kind of interesting to go back

1127
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: to those times of like, I almost didn't do this,

1128
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: I almost just let my doubts kind of take over.

1129
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: And I think that's the advice that I would give

1130
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 1: is if there is something that you think you might

1131
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: want to try, you cannot not try it, Like what

1132
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: is the worst thing that could happen? See, I am

1133
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: the kind of person that I would rather try something

1134
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: and understand it's not for me than never try it

1135
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: and always wonder if it would have worked out. And

1136
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: so that I think is like something that I really

1137
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: harp on people is just try, like, just give it

1138
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: a shot. You never know where it's going to take you.

1139
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: And when I started this and when I said, oh

1140
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to try, it's not like I foresaw exactly

1141
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: the way that this went. I never would have guessed it.

1142
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: I never would have said this is where I'm going

1143
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: to really like succeed, this is where I'm going to

1144
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: start diving into. This is going to be the shifts

1145
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: I make. But all I did was attacked it genuinely

1146
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: and gave it my best shot, and it kind of

1147
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: naturally will fall into place for you. So I think

1148
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: advice is to go for it, but then also understand

1149
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: that things might shift in ways you didn't understand, and

1150
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: to just ride the wave and to see where it

1151
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: takes you and not get so set or specific on

1152
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: like it has to be like this, because it might

1153
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: not be, but it might be even better than you imagined.

1154
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 2: What is the most surprising thing that's come with this

1155
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 2: shift for you?

1156
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is that I am able

1157
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: to create a career for myself, provide for myself and

1158
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: my family while living in my home, living in Utah,

1159
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: finding things that allow me to still be a full

1160
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: time mom and still work and get all the things

1161
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: and all my passions in. I think there's this There

1162
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: used to be this huge mentality and kind of like

1163
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: scary factor of me of like, once I'm a mom,

1164
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: I can't do anything like I'm done and I've done more.

1165
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: I would say my career is busier since becoming a

1166
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: mom than it ever was before. And I'm talking with

1167
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: Dancing the Stars too, Like my days are filled. I

1168
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: have things going on all the time, and yeah, a

1169
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: lot of that is being a mom. But it's like,

1170
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: you can do it all. And I think that's been

1171
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: really good for me to understand, because I think it

1172
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: can be scary and you can think like, oh, well,

1173
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: once you have a mom, once you're a mom, you're

1174
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: either done or there's that if you're a working mom,

1175
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 1: then you're a terrible mom. And I hate that because

1176
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: you can do both. You can absolutely be killing in

1177
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 1: your career and attack it and go after your dreams

1178
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: and pursue your passions and be a great mother at

1179
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: the same time. And it's really cool that I've been

1180
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 1: able to do it. But I think it is shocking

1181
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: because I kind of always thought, like, well, crap, if

1182
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: I want to provide, if I want to work, I've

1183
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: got to be doing Dancing with the Stars for the

1184
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: rest of my life, moving out to LA four months

1185
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: out of the year and leaving my family. But I'm

1186
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: really grateful that my career has been able to shift

1187
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: and I can still do that, but I can also

1188
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: do other things for the times where it doesn't work

1189
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: for me to be doing that.

1190
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we've talked a lot about identity in

1191
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 2: our conversation today. If someone goes to your social media page,

1192
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 2: they see dancing with the Stars, pro you're a mom.

1193
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 2: You also now have this workout program with the Movement Club.

1194
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 2: When you look in the.

1195
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 3: Mirror, though, what is it that you see looking back

1196
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 3: at you?

1197
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. That is a very good question and

1198
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: something I don't really think about very often, but I

1199
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: would say right now, I am very proud of myself

1200
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: as a mother who is pursuing her passions, who was

1201
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: finding ways to do what she loves, because that, I

1202
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: think is just the scariest thing about motherhood and something

1203
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: I was very scared of. Is just worrying like, am

1204
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: I going to lose who I am through all of this?

1205
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: Am I going to then just become somebody's caretaker and

1206
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: forget to take care of myself and forget to do

1207
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: things for myself? And that has not happened at all.

1208
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: I am very grateful that I've found ways to stay

1209
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: true to who I am, to give back to me

1210
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: while also giving to the little creature that I created

1211
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: that I love more than anything in this whole entire world.

1212
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: And so I think that's what I see is someone

1213
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: who is just like striving every day. I'm not trying

1214
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: to say in any way that I am mailing it

1215
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: all the time, because I am definitely not. But I

1216
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: think I just see someone who literally wakes up every

1217
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: day and just strives to do her best, strives to

1218
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: get it all done and show up where she can

1219
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: and be the best version of herself and what it

1220
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: is that's coming for that day.

1221
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: When you think about a year from now, what does

1222
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 2: happiness look like for you?

1223
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. I just hope that I can continue

1224
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: because thinking about a year from now, I'm not gonna lie.

1225
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: Like the big shift of knowing that we're going to

1226
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: two kids very soon is is a bit daunting, and

1227
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: I know it's going to completely shake up everything I've

1228
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: got going right now, Like what I have figured out

1229
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: for my life right now is about to get a

1230
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: huge shift. And I just hope that in a year

1231
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: I still have this mentality of just like taking everything

1232
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: a day at a time and showing up where I can.

1233
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: I kind of went through this a little bit about

1234
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: six months ago, just this constant feeling of like feeling

1235
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: like I wasn't enough and I wasn't getting enough done

1236
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: and always thinking about what I wasn't doing instead of

1237
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: just doing what I could and being proud of that.

1238
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: And since shifting that mindset, I've found that I've been

1239
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: able to show up in ways that I didn't think

1240
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: I could ever do. And so I hope I can

1241
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: keep that mentality. I'm sure it's gonna wait, and I'm

1242
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: sure there's gonna be a lot of shifts and resets,

1243
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: gonna have to check myself every once in a while,

1244
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: but I hope that I can just be very proud

1245
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: of wherever I'm at in a year from now and

1246
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: know that I've definitely done the best that I could.

1247
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 3: How do you squash that I'm not doing enough? I'm

1248
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 3: not good enough? Gremlin?

1249
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: Truthfully, I feel like I have to attack it in

1250
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: different ways depending on the day, And like I said,

1251
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: like I'm not for your data. It's like some weeks

1252
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: I go through the whole week and I'm like I

1253
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: am a rock star and I can do everything, and

1254
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: then the next week, I'm like, I can't get anything done.

1255
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: I failed. This whole week was a bust. I think

1256
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: it really goes back to, like for me at least,

1257
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: is taking it day by day, not looking at the

1258
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: week as a whole, not looking at what I didn't

1259
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: finish that like comparing it to what I've done in

1260
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,439
Speaker 1: the past, is really just taking it by that day,

1261
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: wake up, look in the mirror, say let's do this.

1262
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: Let's crush it. Whatever comes our way. Let's just try

1263
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: to make it and get through and show up the

1264
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: best that we can. And that's been a huge help

1265
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: for me. Some people are really good at maybe planning

1266
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: out the whole weeks, but for me that's something that

1267
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: kind of overwhelms me and makes me feel like I've

1268
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: failed before I've even had the chance to do it.

1269
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: So taking things a day at a time and really

1270
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: just showing up where I can has been very good

1271
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: for me.

1272
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 2: Being able to articulate that though right like knowing that

1273
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 2: the ladder the I'm going to plan a week in

1274
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 2: advance gives you anxiety, is what we were talking about before.

1275
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 2: It's being honest with yourself so that you can make

1276
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 2: the progress that you desire.

1277
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, it's setting like realistic expectations. And I think

1278
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: like social media can be so tough because truthfully, like

1279
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: there are so many times where being on social media

1280
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: seeing other people is what triggers my insecurity. Seeing these

1281
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: people post tiktoks about how they plan out and map

1282
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: out their whole week and then they absolutely nail their

1283
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: whole week, it makes me feel inadequate. But then that's

1284
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: what works for them, and that's okay, and that's great.

1285
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: But don't give myself expectations that I know I'm not

1286
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: going to meet because then why why why would I

1287
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: do set myself up to be discouraged instead of just saying, okay,

1288
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: what will inspire me and encourage me today rather than

1289
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: make me feel stressed out or anxious. So I think

1290
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: it's that fine balance of understanding that just because someone's

1291
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: doing it some way doesn't mean it's the only way,

1292
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: and it also doesn't mean that they're doing it wrong.

1293
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: It's just that's what works for them. Find what works

1294
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: for you.

1295
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 3: Find what works for you.

1296
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 2: All Right, we're winding down here, lindsay, right now, you

1297
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 2: have an opportunity to offer yourself a piece of advice.

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Speaker 2: Looking back at, let's call it those first couple years

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Speaker 2: on Dancing with the Stars, navigating a lot of feedback

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Speaker 2: and stepping in to your authentic self, you have an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to offer that, Lindsay, a piece of advice.

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Speaker 3: In that hurle moment. Knowing what you know, now, what

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Speaker 3: do you tell her?

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Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness, I think I think I would tell

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Speaker 1: her to understand that there is so much coming for you,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of it is going to be stuff

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Speaker 1: that you don't have on your wish list, and that

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Speaker 1: is perfectly okay. And I think just telling her to

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Speaker 1: ride each wave as it comes, see where it takes you,

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Speaker 1: live authentically and enjoy every single moment instead of striving

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Speaker 1: to get somewhere that you're not live in the moment,

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Speaker 1: be present and understand that where you are is exactly

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Speaker 1: where you need to be. I think that would have

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Speaker 1: been really helpful and would have helped me enjoy a

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Speaker 1: lot of maybe tough moments of my life instead of

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Speaker 1: looking at them like they were just miserable trials that

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Speaker 1: I would never get out of.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, every hurdle happens to teach us something, Lindsay, I'm

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Speaker 2: so happy that we were able.

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Speaker 3: To connect today. How did the hurdlers keep up with you?

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Speaker 3: How do they follow along with you? Give us all

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Speaker 3: of your details?

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, So you can follow me on Instagram and

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Speaker 1: TikTok at at Linz Arnold. You can follow my workout

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Speaker 1: program on Instagram and on TikTok. I share a bunch

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Speaker 1: of like daily workout tips, some quick workouts that you

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Speaker 1: can do from home at the movement Club and then

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Speaker 1: you can sign up for my program at movementclub dot com.

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Speaker 1: Very excited hopefully you guys will come join the program.

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Speaker 1: You can do a seven day free trial so you

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Speaker 1: can just see if it's something that is right for

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Speaker 1: you and test it out.

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Speaker 2: Love that I'm over at Emily Body and at Hurdle

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Speaker 2: Podcast Another Hurdle Conquered.

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Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.