WEBVTT - Why Is It More Dangerous to Be a Park Ranger Than an FBI Agent? 

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what will?

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<v Speaker 2>What's that mango?

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<v Speaker 1>So I found this thread from Reddit on some of

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<v Speaker 1>the stupidest things that park rangers have had to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with every day, and I just had to share some

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<v Speaker 1>of these ridiculous stories. So there are people who try

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<v Speaker 1>to take selfies with bears.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I say that's pretty stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>There are people who try to take home baby gators

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<v Speaker 1>from the Everglades because they think they're so cute, which

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<v Speaker 1>is partially dumb because these things obviously grow up, but

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<v Speaker 1>also because baby gaters apparently cry and that puts all

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<v Speaker 1>the mamma gators in the area in attack mode. Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a family who thought that bear spray, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like a heavy duty pepper spray, was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be applied on their bodies like mosquito spray.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd say that takes the crown. That's pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, should have made for a rough day. But the

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<v Speaker 1>saddest and funniest thing to me is the complaints that

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<v Speaker 1>they get. So apparently one woman balled out this park

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<v Speaker 1>ranger because the tree she traveled to visit looked exactly

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<v Speaker 1>like the trees in her backyard.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that she was bawling out of park range, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of don't think that's the range Here's fault exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is an n ridiculous tourist. Are the least

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<v Speaker 1>of what these heroic park rangers have to deal with today.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about how they've foiled poachers, saved species, and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>help plenty of tourists along the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's dive in, Hey their podcast listeners, Welcome to Part

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<v Speaker 2>Time Genius. I'm Will Pearson and as always I'm joined

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<v Speaker 2>by my good friend Mangesha Ticketer and on the other

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<v Speaker 2>side of the soundproof glass, decked out in a Smoky

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<v Speaker 2>the Bear cosplay man. This is just going all out.

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<v Speaker 2>That's our friend, producer Tristan McNeil. He's even wearing this

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<v Speaker 2>fuzzy brown sweater. I guess is this is this because

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<v Speaker 2>smoke he always refuses to wear a shirt or what.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but dressing like a bear is a pretty sharp

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<v Speaker 1>look because trist And really pulls it off it really does,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I didn't have the heart to tell him

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<v Speaker 1>that Smokey's actually a symbol of the National Forest Service,

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<v Speaker 1>not the National Park Service.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think you have to be fair here because

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<v Speaker 2>the hat is part of the National Park Rangers' uniform. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>speaking of hats, park rangers wear a bunch of different

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<v Speaker 2>hats figuratively speaking. And that's because national parks, no matter

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<v Speaker 2>how safe they might feel to us, there's still wild

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<v Speaker 2>places and anything can happen there, and that means park

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<v Speaker 2>rangers have to be prepared to serve the public in

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<v Speaker 2>whatever way is needed, whether that's teachers, tour guides, EMTs,

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<v Speaker 2>search and rescue workers, even law enforcement officers, and sadly,

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<v Speaker 2>even as coroners you know, sometimes all in the same day.

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<v Speaker 2>So with all the rigors of the rangers job in mind,

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<v Speaker 2>we thought we'd show a little appreciation by devoting an

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<v Speaker 2>entire episode to them. We'll talk about how park rangers

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<v Speaker 2>got their start, how the job has changed over the

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<v Speaker 2>last one hundred years, and we'll also learn some of

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<v Speaker 2>the tricks rangers used to contend with whatever nature throws

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<v Speaker 2>their way. I mean, we're talking things like grizzly bears

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<v Speaker 2>and even these annoying tourists. So where do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to start, Mango, Well, believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>Or not, I actually want to stick with the hats

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<v Speaker 1>for a second, because the ranger hat we've been talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>which is I guess that flat hat with what's called

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<v Speaker 1>a lemon squeezer on top. It's actually a really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>holdover from the earliest days of the national parks. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is back when they were patrolled and protected by

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<v Speaker 1>military soldiers rather than park rangers.

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<v Speaker 2>Which isn't something most people know, I imagine, So clueus

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<v Speaker 2>in on this. How did the military wind up in

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<v Speaker 2>charge of the national parks?

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<v Speaker 1>So it was really out of necessity essentially. President Grant

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<v Speaker 1>designated Yellowstone as the world's first official national park, and

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<v Speaker 1>this was way back in eighteen seventy two, but the

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<v Speaker 1>National Park Service wasn't established until about forty years later,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the meantime, there was no specialized government agency

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<v Speaker 1>task with overseeing national parks. Instead, that responsibility fell to

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of the Interior, where you know, there were

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<v Speaker 1>administrative duties that were passed from one point to the next,

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<v Speaker 1>but no one was particularly skilled or even that interested

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<v Speaker 1>in managing Stone properly, and as a result, poachers just

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<v Speaker 1>reaked havoc on the parks, like they decimated the bison population,

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<v Speaker 1>the elk population, the deer population. And it wasn't just poachers,

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<v Speaker 1>like it was a total free for all timber companies

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<v Speaker 1>cut down forests there, vandals graffitied rock formations and the geysers,

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<v Speaker 1>and visiting ranchers even fed their herds there. And there

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<v Speaker 1>was also this problem of former settlers who were now

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<v Speaker 1>illegally squatting in a national park. So rather than leave quietly,

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<v Speaker 1>these furious locals would set fires and destroy hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>acres of parkland. And this all kept the administrators scrambling

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<v Speaker 1>to put it out. Like once word of all this

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<v Speaker 1>chaos reached Washington Congress, and the politicians were just so

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<v Speaker 1>mad that they refused to allocate any additional funding for Yellowstone,

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<v Speaker 1>And for a minute, it actually seemed like the dream

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<v Speaker 1>of a national park system might not make it to

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<v Speaker 1>the twentieth century.

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<v Speaker 2>And so is this where the military steps.

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<v Speaker 1>In or what that's right? So Congress basically reached a

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<v Speaker 1>compromise with the Department of the Interior, and it said

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<v Speaker 1>that Yellowstone would only continue to be funded as long

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<v Speaker 1>as the day to day management shifted to the military.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is in eighteen eighty six, which is fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>years after Yellowstone's founding, but a troop of sixty US

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<v Speaker 1>cavalrymen came to stand guard there over the park's two

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<v Speaker 1>point two million acres. And you know, if you think

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<v Speaker 1>about a sixty people covering two point two million acres

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<v Speaker 1>of land, isn't a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, But this was still a.

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<v Speaker 1>Major improvement over the park's civilian run days, when there

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<v Speaker 1>were only about ten people on patrol, and plus only

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<v Speaker 1>about five hundred people were visiting Yellowstone each year in

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<v Speaker 1>the eighteen eighties, so a small staff kind of worked

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<v Speaker 1>well for the most part. And as more people started visiting,

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<v Speaker 1>the military's presence increased too, and by nineteen ten there

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<v Speaker 1>were actually a total of four sixty man troops in

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<v Speaker 1>Yellowstone and the yearly park attendants had grown to nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, all right, but I don't want us to lose

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<v Speaker 2>track of the hats. We were talking about the hats earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>So so you're saying these cavalrymen, they were the first

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<v Speaker 2>to wear the flat hats that we associate with park rangers.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. But it wasn't just a fashion choice. So

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<v Speaker 1>the hats actually served a very practical purpose and it

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<v Speaker 1>has a history from eighteen ninety eight. This is when

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<v Speaker 1>American cavalry had been sent to fight in Cuba and

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<v Speaker 1>the Philippines, and this is during the Spanish American War,

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<v Speaker 1>and while they were there, they had to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>intense tropical rains, you know, like monsoons that would just

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<v Speaker 1>soak them to the bone. And the soldiers wore army

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<v Speaker 1>issue hats that were pretty similar to the modern ones

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<v Speaker 1>worn by rangers, but according to the regulations at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>they were only supposed to increase the hats in the

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<v Speaker 1>front and back. But the soldiers found that if they

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<v Speaker 1>pinched it in quadrants, it actually shed the rain water

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<v Speaker 1>off better.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's where you get what you call that lemon

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<v Speaker 2>squeezer pinch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right. So if you actually want to get technical,

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<v Speaker 1>that particular kind of hat pinch is known as the

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<v Speaker 1>Montana peak.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I definitely want to get technical. If it's called

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<v Speaker 2>the Montana peak, that's just the Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, veterans of the Spanish American War brought their hats

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<v Speaker 1>back and other soldiers realized it was worth doing the

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<v Speaker 1>same squeeze, and by nineteen eleven, the Montana peak was

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<v Speaker 1>officially added to the troopers uniform, and then a few

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<v Speaker 1>years later, when civilian park rangers took over the new

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<v Speaker 1>recruits adopted that same fashion.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's pretty cool, and I'm glad you directed as

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<v Speaker 2>to the military's early role in all of this, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not only did they set the bar for

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<v Speaker 2>the park ranger fashion, but they also pointed the way

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<v Speaker 2>forward in terms of the work that they did. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, pretty much from the moment troops arrived in Yellowstone,

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<v Speaker 2>they started waging war with the poachers there, and from

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<v Speaker 2>what I've read, this was no easy task, especially because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the military didn't really have legal authority to

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<v Speaker 2>punish these poachers, or at least not in any significant way.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. There weren't any national protections for wildlife at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>so soldiers basically had the authority to like confiscate gear,

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<v Speaker 1>or they could kick connors out of the park, but

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<v Speaker 1>really there wasn't that much more they could do beyond that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in most cases, that wasn't enough to dissuade these

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<v Speaker 2>people from coming back with new supplies the next week.

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<v Speaker 2>So I asked Gabe to pull the numbers, and a

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<v Speaker 2>fresh bison scalp could fetch you three hundred dollars back

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<v Speaker 2>in the eighteen nineties, and that was the equivalent of

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<v Speaker 2>about eight grand today, So for poachers, a shot at

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of money was well worth the stern talking

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<v Speaker 2>tos that they might get from the military. And of

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<v Speaker 2>course the soldiers at Yellowstone felt a little deflated about this,

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<v Speaker 2>so they decided to get creative and sort of stretch

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<v Speaker 2>the limits of the legal penalties that they could impose.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes they'd lock poachers in the guardhouse for a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks, or you know, they'd force them to scrub

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<v Speaker 2>graffiti off the rocks. But probably the most effective practice

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<v Speaker 2>I'd heard about was that soldiers would march a group

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<v Speaker 2>of poachers to the south entrance of the park and

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<v Speaker 2>then inform them that all of their guns and supplies

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<v Speaker 2>they were, you know, available for pickup at the park headquarters,

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<v Speaker 2>which was conveniently located about seventy five miles away at

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<v Speaker 2>the park's north enters.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean it serves them right in of course,

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<v Speaker 1>park rangers have upheld that zero tolerance stance on poaching

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<v Speaker 1>ever since, so this actually has nothing to do with poaching.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do have to mention it. Do you hear

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<v Speaker 1>about the park superintendent who kicked the KKK out of

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<v Speaker 1>the park?

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<v Speaker 2>No, but I definitely want to hear the story, So

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<v Speaker 2>what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, to start with it, it helps me know that

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<v Speaker 1>the Klan was super active in Colorado during the mid

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenties. And not only that, but the group actually

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<v Speaker 1>received like open acceptance from a number of politicians, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say, the governor, the mayor of Denver,

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<v Speaker 1>even a US Senator named Rice Means, and Wow. In

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty six, Senator Means held his pr event in

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<v Speaker 1>Colorado's Mesa Verde National Park, and of course, like a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of clansmen came out to support their boy. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of them even tried to convince the park's superintendent, this

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<v Speaker 1>guy Jesse Nussbaum, to join up with them.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me guess he declined the offer, at least

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<v Speaker 2>I hope he did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he did. And once the Klan knew where he stood,

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<v Speaker 1>they started threatening to hold a torchlide parade through the

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<v Speaker 1>park like it was supposed to culminate with this giant

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<v Speaker 1>rally and burning crosses right in front of the ruins

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<v Speaker 1>of this famous Native American settlement. But Nussbaum wasn't having

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<v Speaker 1>any of it, so he told a clan they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>welcome in Mesa Verde, and just to make sure he

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<v Speaker 1>got his point across, he armed his small park staff

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<v Speaker 1>with these pickaxe handles and other makeshift weapons, and he

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<v Speaker 1>positioned them where the clansmen could see them. And for

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<v Speaker 1>whatever reason, this intimidation tactic worked because the klan left

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<v Speaker 1>without incident.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. That's pretty amazing though. It falls completely in line

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<v Speaker 2>with the ranger motto, which is to protect the park

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<v Speaker 2>from people, the people from the park, and the people

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<v Speaker 2>from the people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and well what Nusbaum did definitely take two of

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<v Speaker 1>those boxes. You know, Preserving natural spaces really takes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of nerve. I mean, I feel like sometimes park

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<v Speaker 1>rangers are almost viewed as being on the softer side

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to law enforcement officers, but their jobs

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<v Speaker 1>are really really hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh definitely, And actually I think you'll love this story

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<v Speaker 2>I read about from Glacier National Park and this happened

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<v Speaker 2>in the seventies when the park was apparently overrun with

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of snowmobilers who just kept illegally cutting through

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<v Speaker 2>a stretch of the park that runs along the Montana Highway.

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<v Speaker 2>This really ticked off one ranger in particular, a guy

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<v Speaker 2>named Art Sedlek, who he was just sick of issuing

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<v Speaker 2>these warnings over and over for this same stupid offense.

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<v Speaker 2>So one night in December, the ranger stopped yet another

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<v Speaker 2>group of snowmobilers and gave them the usual speech, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to stay out of the area so they wouldn't get

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<v Speaker 2>a ticket. And it was less than an hour later

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<v Speaker 2>he heard the sound of snowmobiles in the distance, so

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<v Speaker 2>of course he hops on his four x four to

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<v Speaker 2>go investigate, and when he caught up with them, he

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<v Speaker 2>realized it was the same four offenders from earlier. So

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<v Speaker 2>of course the guy was really mad and just about

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<v Speaker 2>to lose it, and so he pulls up alongside the

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<v Speaker 2>lead vehicle and he starts trying to pull out all

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<v Speaker 2>of its spark plugs and couldn't get a good enough grip,

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<v Speaker 2>and so he decided just like go all action movie

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<v Speaker 2>on them, and he used a slightly different approach. So

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<v Speaker 2>he pulls out his standard issue thirty eight caliber pistol

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<v Speaker 2>and fires it directly into the snowmobiles engine. That's insane, So,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I could identify with that sort of anger.

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<v Speaker 2>Though if that was happening over and over and over,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess but uh, what happened to the other perfs, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>did they just speed away?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what do you think? I mean, they pulled over

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<v Speaker 2>and once they were in custody, each trespasser was forced

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<v Speaker 2>to pay a whopping twenty five dollars in fines, So that.

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<v Speaker 1>Was totally worth it. But what about the ranger, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that kind of behavior either you get

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<v Speaker 1>a promotion or you get put in jail, like depending

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<v Speaker 1>on who your boss is. I guess well.

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<v Speaker 2>It was actually neither of those. I mean, he was

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<v Speaker 2>reprimanded for firing the pistol, but he kind of became

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<v Speaker 2>a hero among the other officers, which you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure took away some of this thing from that, but

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<v Speaker 2>he had the locals on his side for sure, and

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<v Speaker 2>for years after the incident, the Montana Wilderness Association gave

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<v Speaker 2>out this SEDLK Award for displays of creativity and defense

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<v Speaker 2>of public lands. That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well as exciting as arm standoffs and high speed snowmobile

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<v Speaker 1>chases are, we should probably talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>some of the more low key but still super vital

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<v Speaker 1>work that park rangers do, especially when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>repopulating in endangered species.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely But before we do that, why don't we take

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<v Speaker 2>a quick break. You're listening to part Time Genius, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about the highs and lows of being an

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<v Speaker 2>American park ranger. So, Meg, for as long as there

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<v Speaker 2>have been national parks, there have been poachers looking to

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<v Speaker 2>exploit the wildlife there. And you know, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>earliest species they targeted was, sadly, the American bison. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>a few centuries ago, tens of millions of bisons roam

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<v Speaker 2>freely across the plains of North America, but by the

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<v Speaker 2>late eighteen eighties, excessive hunting and poaching had drastically reduced

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<v Speaker 2>those numbers. In fact, by nineteen oh two, yellowstones, once

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<v Speaker 2>great herd, had decimated to just under two dozen animals.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that just feels absurd, especially when you consider

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<v Speaker 1>that Native Americans had hunted bison for centuries, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have guns and horses, so it made it

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a faerofight. Also, Native Americans had always

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<v Speaker 1>showed such a deep respect for buffalo and they were

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<v Speaker 1>careful to use every part of the animals they killed,

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<v Speaker 1>and this wasn't the case for American poachers, who were

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<v Speaker 1>only interested in the body parts that commanded the highest

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<v Speaker 1>prices on the market, and you know, you just had

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<v Speaker 1>these enormous carcasses that were left to rot in the

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<v Speaker 1>fields for some poor park rangers to stumble upon.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. I feel like that's an aspect of this we

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<v Speaker 2>don't think about much, like the people who find the

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<v Speaker 2>horror shows that the poachers leave in their wake. The

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<v Speaker 2>fact that it's usually people who have sworn to protect

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<v Speaker 2>these animals and the land that they live on it

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<v Speaker 2>actually makes it that much more tragic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but thankfully, the American bison story doesn't end in extinction,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least it hasn't yet, because once the park

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<v Speaker 1>officials realized the sorry state of Yellowstone's bison population, they

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<v Speaker 1>immediately set to work on fixing the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>And remember this was still.

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<v Speaker 1>A decade or so before the actual National Park system

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<v Speaker 1>was formed. At the time, Yellowstone was still under the

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<v Speaker 1>jurisdiction of the US Army, and it was actually these

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers who helped launch one of the world's first attempts

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<v Speaker 1>to preserve a wild species solely through protection and also stewardship.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's pretty cool, But what did they do exactly? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the first step was to try and rebuild the bison's numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>So to that end, Yellowstone bought twenty one bison from

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<v Speaker 2>private owners and think gradually started to mix them in

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<v Speaker 2>with the free range population. And when the NPS took

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<v Speaker 2>over the operation, the rangers kept up those husbandry methods

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<v Speaker 2>while continuing to crack down on poachers. And now they

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<v Speaker 2>also had the backing of new laws for a nature

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<v Speaker 2>species from Congress, and these efforts ultimately proved super effective.

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<v Speaker 2>By nineteen fifty four, the bison's numbers it skyrocketed to

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<v Speaker 2>about thirteen hundred animals, and today Yellowstone actually has about

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<v Speaker 2>five thousand American bison, which makes it both the largest

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<v Speaker 2>and the oldest free roaming bison herd in the whole country. Wow. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so bison are obviously on the larger end

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<v Speaker 2>of the spectrum of animals that the National Parks are

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<v Speaker 2>helping to preserve. But let's talk about a smaller animal

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<v Speaker 2>that could still use a lot of help, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>sea turtles. Because you know, at this point, just about

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<v Speaker 2>every species of sea turtle on the planet is classified

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<v Speaker 2>as endangered. We're talking all over the world. Adult sea

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<v Speaker 2>turtles are hunted for their eggs, or their skin, or

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<v Speaker 2>their meat and shells. I mean, all of this goes

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<v Speaker 2>for big bucks on the black market, and things aren't

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<v Speaker 2>any easier for their offspring. I mean, they have to

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<v Speaker 2>run the gauntlet of these crabs and raccoons and seagulls

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<v Speaker 2>just to get to the water after hatching.

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<v Speaker 1>And even if they do make it to that like water, like,

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<v Speaker 1>the babies still have to dodge like nets and pollution

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<v Speaker 1>and predators like sharks. It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in fact, less than one percent of sea turtle

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<v Speaker 2>eggs wind up producing a turtle that survives to adulthood.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that crazy? Less than one percent?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean such grim numbers. But what are the

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<v Speaker 1>National Parks actually doing to help these little guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, anything they can really. I mean, for instance, at

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<v Speaker 2>the Canaveral National Seashore in Florida, you've got specialists there

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<v Speaker 2>who are helping the green turtle population recover, and they

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<v Speaker 2>do this by keeping local predators from chowing down on

0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:50.680
<v Speaker 2>the unhatched eggs. Beyond that, the National Parks work to

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<v Speaker 2>keep the coastline as clean and safe as possible for

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<v Speaker 2>the sea turtles that are nesting there. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you noticed or not, but most of the

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<v Speaker 2>threats to sea turtle survival we listed from humans. So

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<v Speaker 2>being able to preserve a pristine stretch of beach that's

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<v Speaker 2>safe from developers and free of artificial noise and light pollution,

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<v Speaker 2>it goes a long way toward getting baby sea turtles

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<v Speaker 2>into the water. And actually I've noticed, you know, several

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<v Speaker 2>times when we go on trips down to the shore,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if it's in more remote areas, you'll see these,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, signs on the you know, on the buildings

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<v Speaker 2>that you stay in or on the houses that you

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<v Speaker 2>stay in that will remind you to turn your outdoor

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<v Speaker 2>lights off at night for that very reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I mean, even with those protective measures, like

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<v Speaker 1>those odds still seem really slim. And you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>rangers have to be a little despondent about this, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like they're fighting this losing battle to some degree, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when I guess, like one hungry shark or a careless

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<v Speaker 1>fisherman could you know, destroy the effort of the little

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<v Speaker 1>hatchling that finally makes it to the water.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. And it's certainly stressful, but there's some encouraging signs

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<v Speaker 2>so staff members that Canaveral counted fewer than one hundred

0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:58.200
<v Speaker 2>nests each year back in the mid to late eighties,

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<v Speaker 2>but since launching their program, those numbers have risen sharply.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, twenty fifteen was a banner year for green

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<v Speaker 2>sea turtles, with more than thirty five hundred nests found

0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:10.960
<v Speaker 2>along the shore there at Canaveral. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>park rangers aren't blind to what they're up against. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they know they can't save all or even most of

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<v Speaker 2>these animals, but it never stops them from doing what

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<v Speaker 2>they can. For instance, I read this account from a

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<v Speaker 2>former park ranger. Her name is Andrea Lankford, and she

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<v Speaker 2>spent some time working at Cape Patteras at the National

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<v Speaker 2>Seashore there in North Carolina, and she routinely prowled the

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<v Speaker 2>beaches in search of sea turtle nest and then documented

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<v Speaker 2>the location so she could check back in from time

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<v Speaker 2>to time. One day, she comes across this tiny baby

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<v Speaker 2>loggerhead turtle in the dunes, and the experience, which was

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<v Speaker 2>early in her career, it really made her reflect on

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not her work was truly worthwhile. So this

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<v Speaker 2>is from an article in backpacker dot Com and Andrea

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<v Speaker 2>writes this. She says, holding this single turtle in my

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<v Speaker 2>hands brought my decision about being a park ranger into

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<v Speaker 2>sharp focus. How could I not fight to keep this

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<v Speaker 2>in danger? It's she's from becoming extinct. How could I

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<v Speaker 2>not risk my life jumping from helicopters or fording rivers

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<v Speaker 2>so this baby turtle could someday return and lay its

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<v Speaker 2>own eggs, retirement benefits, health insurance, decent housing. On my

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<v Speaker 2>knees in the sand with a baby turtle struggling for

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<v Speaker 2>its life in the palm of my hand, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I had found the best and most important job in

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<v Speaker 2>the world.

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<v Speaker 1>That's such a beautiful thought. And you know that danger

0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:28.760
<v Speaker 1>she mentions, like jumping out of helicopters and fording rivers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a part of the park rangers' jobs that we

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<v Speaker 1>don't even see often or think about, but it's so present.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I read some statistics from the Department of Justice,

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<v Speaker 1>and apparently National Park rangers are more likely to be

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<v Speaker 1>assaulted while on the job than any other federal officer,

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<v Speaker 1>and in terms of fatal accidents involving plane crashes and

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<v Speaker 1>natural disasters, park rangers are up to twelve times more

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<v Speaker 1>likely to die in the line of duty than FBI agents.

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<v Speaker 2>That is unbelievable. Well, we really don't give them enough credit,

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<v Speaker 2>and their search and rescue work alone should have us

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<v Speaker 2>singing their praises. According to the NPS, park rangers came

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<v Speaker 2>to the aid of over forty five thousand people between

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and four and twenty fourteen, and only about

0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:15.119
<v Speaker 2>fifteen hundred of those incidents resulted in fatalities. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty amazing track record.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely, And since we're giving credit where it's due, I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to make sure we're not overlooking one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most unique heroes to serve on the frontlines of

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<v Speaker 1>our parks, and that's the bark Ranger, which the Montana

0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Glacier National Park added to its team in twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, sir, are we letting dogs be park rangers?

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<v Speaker 1>Now bark rangers? And it's not just any dog. This

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<v Speaker 1>one is a border calling named Gracie, and it's her

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<v Speaker 1>job to help keep wildlife at a safe distance from

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<v Speaker 1>park visitors. So apparently there's this particular parking lot where

0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:49.040
<v Speaker 1>mountain goats and bighorn sheep like to gather, and this

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<v Speaker 1>led to all kinds of problems, like sometimes the animals

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<v Speaker 1>would lick the poisonous anti freeze that leaked out of

0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:56.760
<v Speaker 1>people's cars. And of course they're the tourists who try

0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:59.040
<v Speaker 1>to spook the animals or get too close while trying

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<v Speaker 1>to snap selfies.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, but couldn't a good old fashioned human ranger

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<v Speaker 2>drive away the hers just as easily as a dog.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why I was wondering too, But apparently not.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they tried this for a while, but the

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<v Speaker 1>animals always came right back after being driven away by humans,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is partially because they were getting so many

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<v Speaker 1>mixed signals. I mean, you've got tourists trying to feed

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<v Speaker 1>the animals and coax them closer for better pictures, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you've got these park rangers who are like simultaneously

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<v Speaker 1>like shouting and waving their arms to scare the animals off,

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<v Speaker 1>and it probably seemed almost like a game to the

0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:32.160
<v Speaker 1>sheep and goats. But Gracie has changed all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the herds could tell when she barked, she met business,

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<v Speaker 1>and now she and her handler visit the parking lot

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<v Speaker 1>to scare off animals a couple times a week, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's with the hopes that eventually the wild sheep and

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<v Speaker 1>goats will just deer clear of the parking lot altogether.

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<v Speaker 2>Has some pretty good interspecies teamwork there. That's pretty interesting. Well,

0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I want to steer us back to the human side

0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:52.920
<v Speaker 2>of things because there are a few more notable park

0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:54.919
<v Speaker 2>rangers I want to make sure we get to. But

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<v Speaker 2>before we do that, let's take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, so before we run down the list of

0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:14.040
<v Speaker 1>park Ranger All Stars, I do want to just take

0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:15.920
<v Speaker 1>a minute to talk about some of the colorful lingo

0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:18.600
<v Speaker 1>you might hear in a national park. So we've already

0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:21.920
<v Speaker 1>mentioned flat hats and lemon squeezers, which are actual nicknames

0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:24.439
<v Speaker 1>that rangers use to talk about their headgear. But have

0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you ever heard of code W?

0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:30.080
<v Speaker 2>I can't say that I have is just guessing. Is

0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:32.000
<v Speaker 2>W for water? Is this like when a hiker gets

0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:33.119
<v Speaker 2>dehydrated or something?

0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:35.800
<v Speaker 1>So, I mean, code water is a pretty good guest,

0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:40.480
<v Speaker 1>but the W actually stands for wimpy, and really code

0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:42.880
<v Speaker 1>W is just a playful put down that some park

0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:46.240
<v Speaker 1>rangers developed to describe these melodramatic tourists who call in

0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:48.439
<v Speaker 1>for a rescue when there's no actual emergency.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty great.

0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Rangers actually waste a lot of time fielding calls about

0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:54.800
<v Speaker 1>fake emergencies, you know, and it's mostly from hikers who

0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:56.320
<v Speaker 1>just bit off more than they could chew.

0:22:58.000 --> 0:22:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I do feel for the park rangers and the said

0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:02.359
<v Speaker 2>sUAS because partially because they have to put up with

0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:05.359
<v Speaker 2>so many silly requests and all these weird questions that

0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:08.680
<v Speaker 2>come from visitors. Actually read this one anonymous account from

0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:11.080
<v Speaker 2>a park ranger at the Grand Canyon, and he listed

0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:13.000
<v Speaker 2>out some of the ridiculous questions he's had to feel

0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:16.639
<v Speaker 2>out from adult tourists, like is the Grand Canyon human made?

0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:19.200
<v Speaker 2>And what time do you feed the animals? And when

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:22.280
<v Speaker 2>do you turn on the waterfalls. One time, this poor

0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:24.840
<v Speaker 2>guy even caught a confused tourist who had rolled his

0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:28.440
<v Speaker 2>suitcase several miles into the Grand Canyon because he thought

0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:29.840
<v Speaker 2>his hotel was down there.

0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, well, I mean they also try to take

0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:35.840
<v Speaker 1>measures to prevent that sort of thing. I read about

0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:39.679
<v Speaker 1>this effort called PRS, which is, uh, it's preventive search

0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:42.000
<v Speaker 1>and rescue, and it's basically a way to make sure

0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:44.359
<v Speaker 1>our visitors are prepared before they go out on hikes.

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's mainly so rangers won't have to save

0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:50.080
<v Speaker 1>them later on. But the program trains rangers to look

0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:52.760
<v Speaker 1>out for all these telltale signs of novice hikers, like

0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:55.600
<v Speaker 1>someone shows up in flip flops or is heading into

0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:58.400
<v Speaker 1>the wilderness without a backpack. You know, when they see

0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:01.360
<v Speaker 1>someone like that, the rangers make suggestions like wear shoes,

0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:04.480
<v Speaker 1>or a stock up on water, or try a shorter trail.

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:07.479
<v Speaker 1>And you know, they can't force tourists to take this advice.

0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:10.159
<v Speaker 1>But the program does seem to be working. Since it

0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:12.560
<v Speaker 1>was institute at the Grand Canyon in nineteen ninety seven,

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:14.959
<v Speaker 1>the park has actually seen this dramatic drop in its

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:16.320
<v Speaker 1>search and rescue efforts.

0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:19.720
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty cool. And speaking of saving people from their

0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 2>own dumb choices, you remember that ranger I mentioned that

0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:25.760
<v Speaker 2>that really sweet moment with the turtles, Andrea Langford.

0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget her.

0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, she also worked a stretch at Yosemite, and there

0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:31.879
<v Speaker 2>was this one time she actually wound up foiling a

0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 2>bank heist. I mean, this woman has done everything. Apparently

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:37.560
<v Speaker 2>these robbers were just hiding out in the park after

0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 2>pulling a job, but they got lost in the middle

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:41.959
<v Speaker 2>of the night and they got so scared that they

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:44.200
<v Speaker 2>ended up calling the police to come get them.

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. I feel like I want to hear all

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 1>of Langford's stories because she sounds like a park legend.

0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:52.760
<v Speaker 1>But perhaps the ranger who's had the roughest GOVID all

0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:55.320
<v Speaker 1>in the line of duty is Roy Sullivan, who has

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:57.479
<v Speaker 1>to be the most put upon render in history.

0:24:58.160 --> 0:24:59.160
<v Speaker 2>So what makes you say that?

0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 1>So during his tenure at Gendoah, he was actually struck

0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:05.040
<v Speaker 1>by lightning seven different times.

0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:08.320
<v Speaker 2>It's just crazy. It's hard not to laugh at that.

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:09.920
<v Speaker 2>I know we shouldn't laugh at something. I mean, the

0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 2>guy's been struck by lightning seven times when we're laughing

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:14.879
<v Speaker 2>about it, but that just is crazy. And I have

0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 2>heard of this guy. I'm pretty sure he actually holds

0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:19.879
<v Speaker 2>the Guinness record for being struck by lightning more than

0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 2>anyone else. At least I hope nobody's been struck more

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 2>than that.

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I hope it's the record. No one's

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:26.720
<v Speaker 1>trying to break. And if they did try, though, the

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:29.679
<v Speaker 1>odds wouldn't be easy. So the odds being struck by

0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 1>lightning are actually one in two hundred and eighty million,

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:35.680
<v Speaker 1>but seven times like according to a George Washington University

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 1>staff's professor. The odds at that are actually four in.

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:41.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't really know how to say this number, but

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:44.400
<v Speaker 1>it's one with thirty two zeros after it, so it's

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 1>a pretty big number. Wow.

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 2>And so did all seven of those strikes happen while

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:48.880
<v Speaker 2>he was.

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:52.359
<v Speaker 1>A park ranger, so not exactly. The last one actually

0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:55.439
<v Speaker 1>happened after his retirement, when Roy was trout fishing at

0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 1>a lake near his house. Poor cock, talk about bad luck,

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I know. So on the way back to his car,

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:03.479
<v Speaker 1>a black bear actually stole the fish he had hooked,

0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:07.480
<v Speaker 1>but I think just survived this like lightning attack and

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 1>his seventh lightning attack on top of that. Roy was

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 1>in no mood to be messed with by a bear,

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 1>so instead he just took a stick and he hit

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:18.199
<v Speaker 1>the bear and stole his fish back, and then he

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>ran He high tailed it out of there, kind of

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 1>dazed but triumphant. Anyway, Roy Sullivan's kind of a legend,

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:26.639
<v Speaker 1>and people call him the spark Ranger.

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh that makes sense, all right. Well, we've talked a

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 2>lot today about the courage and the empathy that park

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:34.880
<v Speaker 2>rangers bring to their preservation efforts, but there's one more

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:37.679
<v Speaker 2>rather unique preservation campaign that I want to mention, and

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 2>that's the one headed up by Ranger Doug Lean. So,

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 2>first of all, you've probably seen those classic travel posters

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:46.120
<v Speaker 2>from you know, several of the national parks, and they're

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 2>those colorful silkscreen posters that were used as promotional tools,

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 2>and this was all to boost tourism back in the

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 2>nineteen thirties and forties.

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love this so much. It's kind of that

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 1>like art deco style you see on those old Disneyland

0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 1>detraction posters, and it's got such beautiful like light and

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 1>shadows and muted colors. They're great.

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those are the ones, and the original posters were

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 2>made by the WPA or the Works Progress Administration, and

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:11.879
<v Speaker 2>you know, if you remember, that was all part of

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:14.639
<v Speaker 2>Roosevelt's wide scale effort to get America up and running

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:17.920
<v Speaker 2>following the Depression. And to this end, a nice chunk

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:21.200
<v Speaker 2>of the WPA's budget went to arts projects, including these

0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:24.920
<v Speaker 2>four thousand public murals and over two million posters intended

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 2>to promote art and education, health and travel. And you know,

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 2>on the travel side, a team of Berkeley artists they

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 2>were hired to produce more than fifty poster designs and

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:37.200
<v Speaker 2>they were all under this banner see America. And among

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 2>these were a handful of designs representing the fourteen national parks.

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 1>So were they sold as like souvenirs or just hung

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 1>around town or what was the deal there?

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:49.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, the silk screens used to make the posters, they

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:51.919
<v Speaker 2>were pretty fragile, so only between fifty and one hundred

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:54.439
<v Speaker 2>of these posters were made for each park, and of

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:56.199
<v Speaker 2>course that's way too few to be sold to the

0:27:56.240 --> 0:28:00.040
<v Speaker 2>general public. So instead the posters were distributed to places like,

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, chambers of commerce or other local government buildings,

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:06.399
<v Speaker 2>and then they were put in these communities surrounding each park.

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:09.719
<v Speaker 2>And so for a few years, the posters did their jobs.

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 2>They started getting new people, new visitors into the parks

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 2>and really helping America get back on its feet. But

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 2>then once their usefulness had kind of ended, the posters

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 2>started disappearing, and once they were gone, nobody could find them,

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 2>at least for several decades.

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. So now, obviously you can buy prints and

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:29.440
<v Speaker 1>postcards of all that old WPA art at the park,

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 1>so obviously it must have resurfaced at.

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:34.719
<v Speaker 2>Some point, right well, and that's where Ranger Doug comes in.

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:37.119
<v Speaker 2>This was back in nineteen seventy one. He was working

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 2>as a seasonal ranger at Grand Teton National Park in Wyoming,

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 2>and one day in the fall, the rangers were doing

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 2>a general cleanup of the park and this was after

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 2>a pretty busy summer season, so Doug was working on

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 2>clearing out an old horse stall when he came across

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 2>this tattered WPA poster for this park. It was the

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 2>very first design produced in the series. Now, the poster

0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 2>would have just ended up on the park burn pile

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 2>if not for Doug, and he really took a liking

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 2>to it and actually got permission to keep it for himself.

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 2>But this was just the start for him. He actually

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 2>figured that if Grand Teton Park had a poster like this,

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 2>maybe others did too. So over the next couple of decades,

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Doug started piecing together this forgotten story of these now

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 2>iconic posters, and his biggest breakthrough came in nineteen ninety three.

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:23.719
<v Speaker 2>So that's the year Doug got in touch with the

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:27.480
<v Speaker 2>NPS archives in Harper's Ferry, West Virginia, and he actually

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 2>uncovered thirteen black and white poster negatives. They'd just been

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 2>tucked away in a file drawer for safe keeping.

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 2>And using those Doug was able to reproduce the whole series.

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 2>And that's why you can find all these postcards and

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 2>prints you mentioned in the National park gift shops today.

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 1>That's really incredible. And I think you said though that

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>the WPA only made like posters for fourteen parks, but

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've seen so many of those, and especially

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>for parks that didn't exist in the thirties.

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 2>How's that come about? Well, that's the other really cool

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 2>thing about this. So once Doug started reproducing the original

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 2>post other parks began commissioning new posters in that same

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 2>style as the WPA ones. So today they're over fifty

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 2>national parks and monuments represented in this collection, with more coming.

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 2>And you know, none of that would have ever happened

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 2>if not for Doug lem you know, the self proclaimed

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 2>ranger of the lost art.

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I love that. You know. We actually drove through Shendo

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 1>on the way back from Thanksgiving this year and I

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>was just so floored by the beauty there. And every

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 1>time I look at those little postcards that we bought,

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>which are just these tiny replicas of that art, like

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>it really makes me very happy.

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 2>No, I completely agree. And the parks really are incredible.

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, not only do they offer the chance to

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 2>have these breathtaking or kind of life affirming experiences in

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 2>our nation's most precious places, but they really offer that

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 2>chance an equal measure to everybody. So to quote Dayton Duncan,

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 2>a former director of the National Park Foundation, quote, national

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 2>parks are the declaration of independence expressed on the landscape.

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 2>We were the first nation in the history of mankind

0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 2>to say that the most special place should be set aside,

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:03.760
<v Speaker 2>not for royalty, not for the rich, not for the

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 2>well connected, but for everyone and for all time.

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean that sounds so America to me. But before

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:12.959
<v Speaker 1>we make a beeline for the closest park, let's salute

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 1>a few more of our favorite rangers and today's backed off.

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Did you know that before he went to law school,

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 1>Gerald Ford briefly worked as a park ranger. Apparently he

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 1>was a seasonal ranger at Yellowstone, where he was assigned

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>to work as an armed guard on a bear feeding truck,

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.479
<v Speaker 1>and in years later he referred to it as one

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 1>of the greatest summers of his life. Huh.

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 2>So, the country's oldest park ranger is ninety six years old.

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Her name is Betty Reed Soskin and she works at

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 2>the Rosie the Riveter World War Two home Front National

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 2>Historical Park in California. Though she only got into her

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 2>career a little over a decade ago. She's also been

0:31:56.920 --> 0:32:00.240
<v Speaker 2>a tremendous activist, from her civil rights work earlier to

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 2>denouncing the defunding of parks, and she's won a presidential

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 2>medal for her efforts.

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 1>So while the least visited national parks might be in

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Alaska or American Samoa within the contiguous US, the least

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 1>visited park is actually in the middle of Lake Superior,

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 1>and it's known as Isled Royal National Park. The problem

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 1>is mainly accessibility, so you can actually only get there

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>via a seaplane or boat, and that actually shows in

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 1>the numbers. The number of people who come there over

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 1>a year is about sixteen thousand people, and that's equal

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>to the number of people that might visit Yosemite on

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 1>a single day in June.

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<v Speaker 2>I've actually never heard of that park, but now I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of want to go visit this. So did you

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<v Speaker 2>know that for a while, Yellowstone was actually referred to

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<v Speaker 2>as Wonderland like we said in the beginning of the show,

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<v Speaker 2>only a few thousand visitors used to go to Yellowstone

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<v Speaker 2>every year at first, but when the North Pacific Railroad

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<v Speaker 2>was completed in eighteen eighty three, suddenly the accessibility of

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<v Speaker 2>the park changed, and so to boost train travel, the

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<v Speaker 2>railroad decided to launch this ad campaign for Yellowstone, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of building off the popularity of the Allison One Underland books.

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<v Speaker 2>So they talked about Yellowstone as Wonderland. They even handed

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<v Speaker 2>out pamphlets using Alice as a fictional tour guide to

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<v Speaker 2>the parks and pointing out places you should visit it.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, one of the quotes from the brochure that

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<v Speaker 2>I saw has her gushing and saying, tell me, is

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<v Speaker 2>this not wonderland?

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to tell you about the bear lunch counter.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess Yellowstone used to have an open air

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<v Speaker 1>garbage jump at the park, which were definitely not the

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<v Speaker 1>prettiest thing at the parks, but it was an easy

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<v Speaker 1>place to gin up a wild animal show if you

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<v Speaker 1>ever wanted to see scavenging animals, and of course this

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<v Speaker 1>meant big birds, but it also included black bears and grizzlies,

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<v Speaker 1>which is how the dump got called the bear lunch counter.

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<v Speaker 1>But the weirdest part of it is that in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenties and thirties, the park operators decided to take

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of this, and they put bleachers around the trash

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<v Speaker 1>pits so visitors could sit and watch, And they also

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<v Speaker 1>put up signs that said lunch counter for bears only,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, I'm not sure why they had to

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<v Speaker 1>clarify it.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, since we're on a Yellowstone tear, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>throw one more here, So did you know that park?

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<v Speaker 2>Part of the reason we've got Yellowstone as a national

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<v Speaker 2>park is thanks to an artist. His name is Thomas Moran,

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<v Speaker 2>and in eighteen seventy one, Moran was part of a

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<v Speaker 2>federally funded expedition to document the area along with geologists, botanists,

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<v Speaker 2>and zoologists. His sketches in watercolors gave America its first

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<v Speaker 2>view of Yellowstone. But the real story is that his

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<v Speaker 2>work was exhibited in Congress later that year, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>where the sheer beauty of the depicted cliffs and geysers

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<v Speaker 2>and rivers. This convinced politicians to protect the land and

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<v Speaker 2>turn it into what they called a national playground.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I like that well. I want to do another

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<v Speaker 1>show later on, specifically on the parks because there's just

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<v Speaker 1>so much wonder and beauty there. But why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>take home today's trophy?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it kind of sounds like you're just giving

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<v Speaker 2>it to me, like I didn't really earn it, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take it either way. And listeners, I'm sure we

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