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Speaker 1: This is Girls Talk, Boys Talk, presented by Invisi Line,

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Speaker 1: trusted by over five hundred NFL players for their winning smiles,

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Speaker 1: and broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star.

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Speaker 1: Now your host, Nicole Hutchison.

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Speaker 3: Wake Up, Cowboys Nation, Welcome in a Girls Talk Boys

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Speaker 3: Talk presented by visil Line in the SWEC studio. I'm

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Speaker 3: Nicole Hutchinson alongside Christie Scales Aisha Morrison.

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Speaker 4: We are missing our girl Bree. She will be back

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Speaker 4: with us next week. But ladies, how y'a doing this morning?

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Speaker 2: We got.

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Speaker 4: Come on Chris, Oh yeah, he knows.

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Speaker 5: Good job Chrish. Yeah, he's he's been converted. She's influenced too.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I've influenced y'all too. You know. It's

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Speaker 4: it's great, it's fine. Well, you know what else is great?

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Speaker 3: The fact that Perry On Winfrey his twenty one day

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Speaker 3: practice window has been opened as of yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Thoughts on that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I actually did get a quick second with him.

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Speaker 3: He was rushing to get in the shower, but he

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Speaker 3: said that he was expecting to be back a little sooner,

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Speaker 3: but he told me that he's just happy to be back.

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Speaker 3: He's been kind of putting in some extra work with

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Speaker 3: that back, some extra core work, running a lot more.

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Speaker 3: So he fills one hundred percent right now. So glad

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Speaker 3: to have him back, ladies, which y'all.

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Speaker 6: Think, Oh, I thought he was one of the pleasant

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Speaker 6: stories of training camp. Absolutely, and to have him go

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Speaker 6: on ir at the beginning of the regular season, you know,

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Speaker 6: you look back and you say it was a blow,

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Speaker 6: and you look at the depth at defensive.

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Speaker 5: Tackle, and week to week it's.

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Speaker 6: Been a coach's decision as to whether or not it's

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Speaker 6: going to be Mozzie Smith or j Toya, right, And

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Speaker 6: so I think you put Winfrey in the mix there,

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Speaker 6: you know, and have him play there behind Osa and

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Speaker 6: Kenny Clark and along with Solomon Thomas, and it can

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Speaker 6: only help, that's for sure. I mean, just look at

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Speaker 6: the run defense what's been happening, and also the way

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Speaker 6: that he was creating some pressure in preseason and the limit.

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Speaker 6: Now I know, you're going against the backups along the

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Speaker 6: defensive line and you're not showing everything, certainly in regards

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Speaker 6: to pass rush in preseason but I say it can

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Speaker 6: only help.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's incredibly just naturally gifted. His length and his

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Speaker 7: size is something that stood out, like you said, Christy

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Speaker 7: during preseason, during training camp, and I mean there were

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Speaker 7: times like his length really to me gave some of

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Speaker 7: your interior you're better in tierior players issues and practices

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Speaker 7: and stuff. So definitely want to, you know, get to

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Speaker 7: see him get involved on the inside. And what is

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Speaker 7: interesting about Parryon is like, despite the fact that he's

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Speaker 7: not like this huge guy. He is a big guy,

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Speaker 7: but he's not a traditional nose to but because of

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Speaker 7: kind of beat guys off those their spots. His foot

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Speaker 7: quickness is a little bit faster than a lot of

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Speaker 7: interior players. So it'd be cool to see if he

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Speaker 7: can translate that into games, you know, into like you know,

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Speaker 7: in game and from what we saw in Frankman camp.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's one of the things that you see

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Speaker 6: over the years is as the game evolves is you know,

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Speaker 6: you used to be your your two defensive tackles if

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Speaker 6: were the human speed bumps, right, just big and and

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Speaker 6: the athleticism of these guys now and as you say,

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Speaker 6: just the length and so it could be interesting, but

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Speaker 6: it also just a reminder, Winfrey is the heartwarming story

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Speaker 6: who came from USFL and UFL excuse me, and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 6: broke down a little bit and make coach break down.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So so it's.

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Speaker 6: Really a great story, are they Why do they do

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Speaker 7: I would just stressed out, like because he thought he

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that would tress me out too.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you think it's going to be on the hard knocks.

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Speaker 4: I don't know something.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, yeah, he gotta do something.

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Speaker 5: You gotta do something.

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Speaker 6: And Chrispy may be able to help us on that.

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Speaker 6: Were they rolling as early as that at the end

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Speaker 6: of August. I don't know, but if he does do something,

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Speaker 6: they can certainly at least have the story told. If

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Speaker 6: they don't have the exact footage of him being in there.

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Speaker 5: Okay, they weren't rolling. They were not rolling it.

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Speaker 4: They don't show up until right around Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's going to be towards the end of

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Speaker 5: the season. Then, well that sucks. I know, it's kind

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Speaker 3: Kind how it works, well, we talked about it a

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Speaker 3: sticking with Cowboys offense Arizona defense. But while we're on

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Speaker 3: the topic of defensive tackles, I know we mentioned it

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Speaker 3: to know your thoughts, like what's what's kind of your

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Speaker 6: I think that Solomon Thomas has been a great addition,

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Speaker 6: and I would argue that he's been the most consistent.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if y'all were in agreement on that,

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Speaker 5: I mean week to week, and.

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Speaker 3: That's what do you think absolutely, I mean, even with

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Speaker 3: mean you've had some ups and downs a little bit.

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Speaker 3: He actually spoke yesterday in locker room and kind of

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Speaker 4: Practice, right, and he was like, I mean, speaking for.

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Speaker 3: Myself, I feel like I've been prepared, but it just comes.

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Speaker 3: It goes down to the way that everybody's preparing, of

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Speaker 6: But yeah, well I also think Nicole, when someone like

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Speaker 6: Osa when they hit their big payday, yeah, rightly or wrongly,

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Speaker 6: because they I think it's added pressure for most of them,

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Speaker 6: aren't just doing it for a paycheck, right, but doing

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Speaker 6: that's going to be a priority this week.

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Speaker 5: It is every week. That's such a truism.

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Speaker 6: Sorry to be so tried, but yeah, but you could

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Speaker 6: go across the whole line. I would say the ends

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Speaker 5: You know this.

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Speaker 6: I thought Sam Williams would really cash in this year.

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Speaker 6: I really did, and I think we talked about it

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Speaker 6: earlier in the week. That's not to say it's not

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Speaker 6: beginning with Monday Night in week nine, but we hadn't

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Speaker 6: seen it yet and they know it. That's you're to

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Speaker 6: your point. They were all talking about that yesterday.

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Speaker 7: No oh no, Christy, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: But not But but I do appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: You know, they're answering the questions.

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Speaker 5: I think honestly and thoughtfully.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, Yeah, there's a lot of I guess I wouldn't

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Speaker 7: say disappointment. Maybe it is disappointment is across this defensive line,

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Speaker 7: Like Christy said, like I personally expected a little bit

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Speaker 7: more from Dante Fowler absolutely turning back to Dallas after

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Speaker 7: having a big year with the Washington Commanders, Like it

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Speaker 7: just hasn't. Marshaw Kneelan is a gentleman that I was

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Speaker 7: looking to take a step this year. He's obviously dealt

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Speaker 7: of like his growth and development. It just to your point, Christy,

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Speaker 7: definitely the defensive tackles. Not playing well as a collective

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Speaker 7: wonder if we start seeing there's more certain gentlemen are

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Speaker 6: And I just like to add one more point to

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Speaker 6: Mauzie and Marshaw Neelan. The reason why I mentioned those

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Speaker 6: you have to have them pay off because ad nauseum

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Speaker 6: we have heard about the investment financially in the offensive

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Speaker 6: rightfully so, when you've got those star players, right, and

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Speaker 6: you want to be able to resign to George Pickens.

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Speaker 6: All of you are saying, trade them now so you

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Speaker 6: can get something. Have you lost your mind? Watch the games?

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Speaker 6: Look at what a difference he has made. But when

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Speaker 6: this year, investing in the offensive line, you have to

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Speaker 6: have those draft and developed players on the defensive side

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Speaker 6: of the ball pay off. And frankly it hasn't happened

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Speaker 6: over the last few years, and it is killing this team.

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Speaker 8: You know what.

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Speaker 3: I'm sacking tired of this trade talks with George Pickens.

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Speaker 4: It's because it's weird.

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Speaker 3: It's weird, Like well, I mean I don't like it.

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Speaker 3: Granted love everybody who's who was on the beat.

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Speaker 4: They're great, great guys, but I do not like the talk.

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Speaker 3: You just went from trying to figure out your offense

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Speaker 3: last last year. I mean hell, even the year before.

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Speaker 3: Technically you figured out later in the year, but you

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Speaker 3: all these weapons, and you finally figured it out.

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Speaker 4: So don't don't what's they say? What it's they say, like,

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Speaker 4: don't If it ain't broke.

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Speaker 5: Don't fix it.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm looking for. If it ain't broke, don't

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Speaker 4: freaking fix it.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I would say, bird in the hand, right,

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Speaker 6: Pickens is a bird in the hand if you can shoot.

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Speaker 6: It may cost thirty million dollars on average per year

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Speaker 6: to resign him, but oh my gosh, what a been

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Speaker 6: and what a difference he's made with all the big plays.

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Speaker 6: And we'll talk more about that tomorrow. We're gonna focus

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Speaker 4: It's trying to break down.

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Speaker 4: He can play. I think he can play a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just saying, but no talking about him and

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Speaker 5: Let me just say that.

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Speaker 5: He was harassed all day. It's true. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You asked was are you encouraged?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hello you hear me?

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Speaker 7: They will move him across that defensive line and when

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Speaker 6: the dude's thirty seven years old. He's this is, excuse me,

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Speaker 6: thirty nine years old, and this is his eighteenth season.

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Speaker 5: So just to put it, just to put in perspective.

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Speaker 6: When he was drafted, the Cowboys had two first round

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Speaker 6: picks that year.

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Speaker 5: This how long ago?

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Speaker 6: This was when kalay Is Campbell entered the league. Felix

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Speaker 6: Jones and Mike Jenkins.

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Speaker 5: Does that feel like a long time ago?

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Speaker 6: It was, and this guy is still doing it and

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Speaker 6: at a high level as the starter, and you know,

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Speaker 6: not just a rotation piece coming in and working in

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Speaker 6: and just like in past rush situations, I mean the guy.

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Speaker 6: This will be his two hundred and fiftieth career start

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Speaker 6: in the NFL at that position where your body gets

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Speaker 6: beat to heck every week. And those two hundred and

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Speaker 6: fifty career starts are the most of all the active players.

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Speaker 6: And you say, oh, it hasn't been Aaron Rogers older

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Speaker 6: and hasn't he been in the league longer? Well, he

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Speaker 6: has one more start and he has been in the

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Speaker 6: league longer. But remember he sat for a few years

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Speaker 6: behind Brett Farr. So kalaiis Campbell. He is also seven

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Speaker 6: years older than his defensive coordinator. And I'm so glad

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Speaker 6: Aisha mentioned Nick Rawlss because this is a wonder kid

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Speaker 6: when it comes to NFL coaching. He was only twenty

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Speaker 6: seven years old as a position coach when he was

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Speaker 6: on Sirianni's staff and working under John at the Gannon

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Speaker 6: who was the defensive coordinator. So yeah, this is it's

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Speaker 6: Schottenheimer mentioned Rawless yesterday, and he was only twenty nine

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Speaker 6: when he was named defensive coordinator, as Ayisha said in

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty three. So yeah, I mean literally, Kalaias Campbell

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Speaker 6: is seven years older than his coordinator.

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Speaker 5: That's amazing, That's wow, that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Well, I remember, that's crazy.

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Speaker 5: Two extremes. A really old player and a really young coach.

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Speaker 7: That yeah, I think is in he's he's kind of

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Speaker 7: an anomalate. It's a testament to how he takes care

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Speaker 7: of his body. He takes care of himself. I would

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Speaker 7: not be just intent on trying to run the ball

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Speaker 7: over there at him. However, I would attack the other end.

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Speaker 7: And I think Dante Stills is a fine player, but

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Speaker 7: as far as getting stealed on the outside, that's something

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Speaker 7: that he struggled with and being able to set the

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Speaker 7: edge on that side. Also to I would hope that

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Speaker 7: Dallas forces their cornerbacks to come up and tackle. We

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Speaker 7: haven't talked about the secondary much, but this is a

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Speaker 7: pretty this is a pretty young secondary. There's some inexperience

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Speaker 7: in there too. Will Johnson, you know, the rookie, he's

485
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Speaker 7: playing really good football. I know a lot of people

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Speaker 7: get worried about taking a corner early like that. But

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Speaker 7: he's he's came out in his rookie season and really

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Speaker 7: translated a lot of what we saw on the college

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Speaker 7: tape to the NFL. Obviously, Buddha Baker's out there. These

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Speaker 7: two the two safeties for them, I think play some

491
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Speaker 7: pretty good football now. Buddha, because he is aggressive, he

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Speaker 7: will get caught peeking in the backfield. I think Dallas

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Speaker 7: will be able to take advantage of getting him to bite.

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Speaker 7: Sometimes that's just who he is. I don't think he's

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Speaker 7: gonna change. He's been this way for a while. He's

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Speaker 7: he's gonna he's a missile in the run game when

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Speaker 7: he comes down and helps and feels. But when you

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Speaker 7: play like that, sometimes from that position, guys can get

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Speaker 7: caught looking in the backfield every now and then.

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Speaker 4: What you got?

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Speaker 3: I was gonna ask, what do you Obviously we've talked

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Speaker 3: about the opportunities in the secondary. You mentioned that the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys can attack. But I have the opening drive for

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Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys against Denver last week.

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Speaker 4: Obviously they get the ball at the Dallas forty eight.

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Speaker 3: They mix in a little bit of Brevin span Ford.

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Speaker 3: He gets a nine yard pickup, Davonte Williams gets a

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Speaker 3: first down, tay back and forth, they get clamb of

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Speaker 3: course involved. They get down to the goal line and

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Speaker 3: of course only settle for a field goal. Of course

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Speaker 3: that was because of a penalty on Rock Kaufman. False

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Speaker 3: star pa there. But when you look at the opening

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Speaker 3: series for Dallas, how do you want them to I'd

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Speaker 3: say we can say.

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Speaker 7: Scripted, I would say, oh, best way, no, go ahead.

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Speaker 5: I I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I mean they were effective moving it as long as

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Speaker 6: you don't have the self inflicted wounds right.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, I know.

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Speaker 6: It was called on Hoffman, but unfair to Hoffman because

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Speaker 6: it was Geton who flinched.

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Speaker 7: She had to fix that. Also. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 7: while we were talking about penalties, I had to correct

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Speaker 7: myself from yesterday. The Airsona Cardinals are eighteenth and penalties

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Speaker 7: with fifty four.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and you mentioned Will Johnson. He had three of

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Speaker 6: them against the Packers, and one of them was a

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Speaker 6: you know, when you're in press covery, like right up

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Speaker 6: on the line, like press coverage and hands to the face,

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Speaker 6: So that I think that could be really interesting pickings.

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Speaker 5: No, I'm against him glad, but I'm sorry against him. Noah,

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Speaker 5: I didn't mean to get a track there.

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Speaker 7: No, no, no, that's that's that's on track. That was

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Speaker 7: something that I wanted to mention is that he is

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Speaker 7: a rookie. Yeah, he's still a nugget and there and

536
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 7: that's one of the again, that was one of the

537
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Speaker 7: elements of his game come out of college. This is

538
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Speaker 7: a press corner. He is not afraid to get up

539
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Speaker 7: in your face and try to redirect you and jam

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Speaker 7: at the line of scrimmish. But sometimes if you are

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Speaker 7: going up against another savvy veteran, then they can make

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Speaker 7: you pay. And I think that's something Pickings can do

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Speaker 7: against him. But what was we talking about?

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Speaker 4: Oh oh no, I just asked open.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Dalla's gotta run the ball better. Yeah, that's gotta

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Speaker 7: run the ball better. I understand, you know kind of

547
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Speaker 7: some of the things that that happened you talked about,

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00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 7: you know, the false starts and stuff like that. But

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Speaker 7: Dallas has to win the line of skirmish better in

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Speaker 7: this upcoming game. That's really one of the biggest differences

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Speaker 7: in the in their losses and their wins, or their

552
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Speaker 7: bad losses and their wins is their ability to run

553
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Speaker 7: the ball. It's just something that balance and them not

554
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Speaker 7: being one dimensional is gonna be pivotal in this game

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Speaker 7: for them to get better, for them to establish the

556
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Speaker 7: ground game early or try to at the released.

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Speaker 3: Do y'all see Brevin span Ford getting a lot of

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Speaker 3: action in this game.

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Speaker 7: In the run obviously, yeah, heck yeah girl, But in

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Speaker 7: you know, as a receiver. I just don't know. How

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Speaker 7: do you feel I want them to. I feel like

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Speaker 7: he's capable, But what is it that is keeping them

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Speaker 7: from from well?

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Speaker 6: Okay, C d Lamb, George Pickens, by Jake Ferguson, Cavante

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Speaker 6: Turpin and Javonte Williams running the ballas No, I'm no really,

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Speaker 6: although one thing that I just he he's so tall,

567
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Speaker 6: He's such a physical mismatch.

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Speaker 5: How long have we been saying, ooh in the red zone,

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Speaker 5: I beg of thee.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but at the same time, you're not gonna throw

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Speaker 6: it to Pickens or CD down there, No, I mean

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Speaker 6: really or Jake Ferguson, who by the way, leads NFL

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Speaker 6: tight ends and touchdowns catch people off.

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Speaker 7: Surprise, because if you're trying to do some trickery though,

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Speaker 7: you know, yeah, he yeah, but.

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Speaker 6: But any any incompletion to brevn Span four down there,

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Speaker 6: and everybody will be why no, I no, I really

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Speaker 6: I really want It's kind of funny because Princeton fant,

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Speaker 6: who's practice squad tight end, We kind of have a

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Speaker 6: little pregame joke now down on the sideline before warm ups,

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Speaker 6: and it's like it's like, who's gonna get the touchdowns today.

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Speaker 5: You know, at at tight end?

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Speaker 6: And and I always keep saying it's gonna be Brevin's day,

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be Brevin's stay. And then Jake takes all

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Speaker 6: of them, you know, so, but maybe could be Monday

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Speaker 6: night have his have his breakout game on Monday night

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Speaker 4: Let me think about it when.

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Speaker 6: We do tomorrow, think about it. Yeah, yeah, Well we'll

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Speaker 6: have our farmer's dog dog at the game.

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Speaker 7: I can't.

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Speaker 3: You need to fix it now, Cowboys Arizona and Monday

659
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Speaker 3: Night Football Primes.

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Speaker 4: You better be having some energy. Geez, Welcome back in a.

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Speaker 3: Girls so Boys Talk presented by visitl Line, Nicole Hutcherson,

662
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Speaker 3: Christy Scales, Aiha Morrison and I need biggest key of

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Speaker 3: the game for.

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Speaker 4: The Dallas Cowboys. What you got, Aysha?

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Speaker 7: Well, there's a couple of things that I was being

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Speaker 7: ely because I was looking and there's a couple of

667
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 7: things that stand out about this Cardinals defense. Amazing stuff

668
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Speaker 7: came out the other week from uh, the Phoenix Cardinals. Yeah,

669
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Speaker 7: there's that people. I'm there's that people. And this just

670
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 7: talks about the the Arizona Cardinals and defensively and how

671
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Speaker 7: poorly they've played in the fourth quarter. First three quarters

672
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Speaker 7: of play there their fourth in the NFL up until

673
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Speaker 7: last week, their fourth in the NFL with seventy eight

674
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Speaker 7: points scored, and then you get into the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 7: their last in the NFL with seventy six points scored

676
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Speaker 7: in the fourth quarter. Got to hear little bit from

677
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Speaker 7: defensive coordinator Nick Rollis yesterday about this, and he just said, like,

678
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 7: that's something we're really looking at, trying to close games better.

679
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Speaker 7: So you when we were talking about you know, Dallas

680
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 7: starting better and making sure that they're cashing in in

681
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 7: these red zone trips, you got a Arizona team that

682
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Speaker 7: is looking to try to figure out how to finish games.

683
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Speaker 7: And that's and that's something that's really cool, Christy, because

684
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Speaker 7: I feel like in my time as being an analyst,

685
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Speaker 7: and I know we've talked about is that's a skill.

686
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Speaker 7: Finishing games is a skill like closing out games is

687
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Speaker 7: something that teams have to sometimes learn. And when you

688
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 7: look at the Cardinals, they have literally lost so many

689
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 7: games close because they can't close out games. And so

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Speaker 7: is that going to show its head in this game,

691
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Speaker 7: we'll see you know.

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Speaker 6: I think part of that is you need in the

693
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Speaker 6: fourth quarter your stud pass rusher to step up and

694
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 6: look at what Mica did in that fourth quarter, and

695
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 6: when you know Arizona's most recent life boss, you know,

696
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 6: the stud players step up and make the plays.

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Speaker 5: And as good and as solid as Arizona is, they're kind.

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Speaker 6: Of meat and potatoes. I agree with what Ayisha said earlier.

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Speaker 6: You know, they're very solid, but they're not flashy, and

700
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Speaker 6: they don't they haven't really made the big plays. And

701
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Speaker 6: they also have just been middle of the pack when

702
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,479
Speaker 6: it comes to takeaways. You know, they only have seven

703
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 6: takeaways for the entire season, so a catalytic player or

704
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 6: a catalytic play hasn't really happened for them in the

705
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Speaker 6: fourth quarter, and it's really hurt them.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes that can be beneficial though, like when you're so simple,

707
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Speaker 3: you know, but like I usually I made a good

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Speaker 3: point earlier.

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Speaker 4: Still sets them up for success. Or Christy, when we're.

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Speaker 6: Talking sure offline, Yeah, that's not an insult to say

711
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Speaker 6: meat and potatoes.

712
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Speaker 5: Believe me, I will take meat and I will be

713
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Speaker 5: salad right now.

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Speaker 7: Okay, come on, Christy is tire y'all hurt my Christie,

715
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Speaker 7: he is sick.

716
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Speaker 5: And she said, I would take them salad salad with

717
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 5: like some chicken on like Asian bat dressing.

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Speaker 4: But no, it's fact. And granted we can't, you know,

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Speaker 4: blame the offense for you know, of course their struggles.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I just think that I take the

721
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Speaker 3: lack of big plays and the highlight real worthy plays

722
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Speaker 3: in a win.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, and I think we saw it.

724
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Speaker 4: It's basically Shotty said that.

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Speaker 7: He said he said it in a very animated way,

726
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Speaker 7: but he said, I don't care about none of them

727
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Speaker 7: stats if we're not winning games. Pickens has said that

728
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Speaker 7: as well. Sure they teams players want to win games.

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Speaker 5: Well, but here's the thing.

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Speaker 6: Arizona's defense has set the up. They've had the ball

731
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Speaker 6: on off Jacobi Prissette has had opportunities on the final

732
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 6: passes of the game the past.

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Speaker 5: Two games for them to win.

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Speaker 6: So the defense for Arizona, it did do enough to

735
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Speaker 6: set up their offense to have a chance and you

736
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Speaker 6: know passes incomplete in the in the end zone.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so they got some key. I mean, I know

738
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Speaker 7: we're gonna get more information on, but they do have

739
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Speaker 7: some key like pass rusher guys and stuff like Darius

740
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Speaker 7: Robin Robinson comes to mind that you know, is dealing

741
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 7: with a pectorial when you talk about the catalytic player,

742
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Speaker 7: that's what they drafted him to be. So they some

743
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Speaker 7: of those guys that I think that they were looking

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Speaker 7: at to come in and be those guys like you know,

745
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Speaker 7: Joshua misses his roadie. Yeah, it happens like that.

746
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Speaker 4: I feel it. Well, what's something that has to happen

747
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Speaker 4: for Dallas offense to have success?

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Speaker 7: It is going for me, ladies, It's gonna be them

749
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Speaker 7: being able to run the ball against some of these

750
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Speaker 7: stacked boxes. When you look at the Carolina game, when

751
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 7: you look at the Bears game, you look at some

752
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 7: of these games where Dallas has struggled to stop the

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Speaker 7: run this past I mean to run the ball last week. Also,

754
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Speaker 7: you're talking about there being five or more defensive linemen

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Speaker 7: at the line of scrimmage, and I think that that's

756
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 7: partially because of the you got guys kind of being inserted,

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00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 7: you know, through the season as guys getting healthier or

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00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 7: you know, guys being taken away, but also too that's

759
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 7: just something Dallas has struggled against and we talk about

760
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Speaker 7: the Arizona Cardinals. They are fifth and having fifth in

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Speaker 7: the NFL and having five or more defensive linemen at

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Speaker 7: the line of scrimmage in the rang game, and so

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Speaker 7: for Dallas and with them a lot of the time

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Speaker 7: that could be a linebacker. You'll see Browning come from depth,

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Speaker 7: You'll see him knife through and be able to do

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Speaker 7: somethings stopping to run. Also too, we talked about Wilson

767
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 7: as well. Like Mac Wilson, he is someone that can

768
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Speaker 7: get to the other hash like these guys have some

769
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Speaker 7: sidelines to sideline speed when it comes to stopping the run.

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Speaker 7: So for me, it's gonna be Dallas picking up Arizona's

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Speaker 7: rum blitzes and also dak navigating when they do bring

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Speaker 7: five or more linemen, you know who's dropped being who's

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Speaker 7: actually blitzing the offensive lines. Communication is going to have

774
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Speaker 7: to be better. They struggled this past week. Are they

775
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 7: going to be better at home? But this is a

776
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 7: hump that this Dallas run game needs to get over,

777
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Speaker 7: because this is a little bit of a trend. Is

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Speaker 7: when they see teams that load the.

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Speaker 5: Box a little bit more that they're struggling to move

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Speaker 5: the ball.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Shoddy said, you know, they do play a

782
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Speaker 6: lot of multiple fronts, and sometimes they'll even bring in

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Speaker 6: three safeties.

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Speaker 5: But here's the thing.

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Speaker 6: If they load the box, boy, you can pop some

786
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Speaker 6: big plays. You get your blockers to this second level.

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Speaker 6: So this is actually a potential game where you get

788
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Speaker 6: the long runs as your big plays. If you can

789
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Speaker 6: just handle that those guys up front and get to

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Speaker 6: the second level, then.

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Speaker 5: Boom your crew.

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Speaker 6: And I would just add one more thing, Nicole, and

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Speaker 6: that is you know, traditionally in football you say, oh,

794
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 6: the run sets up the pass.

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Speaker 5: But I love Ayosha's point on this.

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Speaker 6: This could be a game where the pass, you know,

797
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 6: going over, you know, making them you know, Ben sets

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Speaker 6: up the run because okay, we can't stat the box.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, I like it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh sorry, no, girl.

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Speaker 4: Well, I was looking at.

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Speaker 3: Javonte Williams's numbers with defenders in the box, and he

803
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Speaker 3: has a with six or few guys fewer guys in

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Speaker 3: the box, he has a success rate of twenty three

805
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Speaker 3: percent one touchdown. When there's seven defenders in the box,

806
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Speaker 3: he has a nineteen percent success rate one touchdown, but

807
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Speaker 3: also two hundred yards and then a stack box eight plus.

808
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Speaker 3: In the box he has a fifteen percent, six touchdowns

809
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Speaker 3: and seventy five yards, which is.

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Speaker 4: Kind of nuts.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, to your point, No, no, that's a fantastic

812
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Speaker 7: thank you for that. Thank you for the additional stats

813
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Speaker 7: to kind of verify that it does make it tougher

814
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Speaker 7: to run. But oh, if you if he can time, yeah.

815
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Speaker 5: Just get the second level and get passed.

816
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's jacks. If Dak had some time last week,

817
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 7: there were some opportunities to attack down the field and

818
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 7: also to at that second level too. But I love

819
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Speaker 7: your point that you may Christie about some of the

820
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 7: big runs that you think will be there. We got

821
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 7: to see Jaydon Blue get after it a little bit

822
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 7: last week. I feel like his explosiveness could be helpful

823
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 7: in this game. Again, we know the fumble and all

824
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 7: this stuff, you know, you know, but I think that

825
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 7: his speed could be helpful in attacking again the perimeter

826
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 7: of this Cardinals defense and having those corners. Making those corners. Now,

827
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Speaker 7: Will Johnson will come.

828
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Speaker 5: Up and tap.

829
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Speaker 7: I ain't talking about him. I'm talking about talking about

830
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Speaker 7: the other guys, having them come up and have it

831
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 7: to help out in the run.

832
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Speaker 4: Who on this offensive line has the biggest task.

833
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Speaker 5: You know, Cooper BB gonna be back this week. I

834
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Speaker 5: I mean that's very well, could happen.

835
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Speaker 7: Happy that will be a boost for this Dallas, this

836
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 7: Dallas offensive line. I think Hoffman has played some fantastic football,

837
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 7: but I think you get a little bit more power,

838
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 7: a little bit more anchor from that center position with

839
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 7: a Cooper BB. He is gonna have to acclimate like

840
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 7: he has to have. He has to trust that that ankle,

841
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 7: he has to you know. But I would say, to

842
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 7: answer your question, Nicole, to me, it's gonna be I

843
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 7: really think, well, everybody gonna get some with na Ground.

844
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 7: But if he is predominantly lined up against Booker, that

845
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 7: is a heck of a matchup for your rookie to see.

846
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 7: Because Kalais Campbell got a tool bag and so this

847
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 7: is this, This is gonna be a matchup that's gonna

848
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 7: test Tyler.

849
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 5: Booker a lot.

850
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Speaker 3: Tyler Booker's played some of his best ball this season.

851
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 3: Of course, fresh off one of his better games against

852
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 3: Denver allowed to I think I believe to pressures on

853
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: forty six pass blocking snaps. So uh, certainly loving what

854
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 3: we're seeing from t book But Christy what you got.

855
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 6: I mean, now, if I were along the offensive line, yeah,

856
00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 6: I mean if BB comes back, that that's huge. Yeah,

857
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 6: I agree, that is going to be a fun matchup

858
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 6: the old school new school Campbell and Booker.

859
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 5: But I'd like to like to see Terrence Steele rebound

860
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 5: this week.

861
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 9: Yeah.

862
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 5: The tackles.

863
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 7: I think the tackles with how you brought up the

864
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 7: safeties and how they like to blitz the safeties and

865
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Speaker 7: some of the stuff they like to do. The tackles

866
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 7: and the running backs and whoeverre gonna have their hands full,

867
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Speaker 7: because like.

868
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, this is one and this is one where

869
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 6: when we talk about this is including the backs. You know,

870
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 6: Javonte Williams or of Jade and Blue is out there.

871
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 6: Identification is super important. When Buddha bakers, you know which

872
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 6: gap he's coming in, if and when they send him. So,

873
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 6: so let's talk about this collectively and not just the

874
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:49,479
Speaker 6: five guys up front.

875
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Speaker 4: Well about in the passing game, probably nobody, but.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I just uh the way that Craft and

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Speaker 6: Uh exposed him in the fourth quarter. I just I

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00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 6: also was with Jake Ferguson in an event on Tuesday.

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Speaker 6: By the way, Uh, congratulations to Jake for being nominated

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Speaker 6: for leaguewide for Salute to Service, and we're outed Medal

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Speaker 6: of Honor Museum on Tuesday and great to see him

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00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 6: interact with all those junior high kids in our Medal

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Speaker 6: of Honor winner on Tuesday. So maybe I'm being a

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Speaker 6: little sentimental, but I'm gonna go with Jake.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, in.

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Speaker 7: The passing, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say Sea Lamb

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Speaker 7: and Pickens, I'm gonna say, you get one.

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Speaker 4: And I'm just kidding, Okay, Well, I'm just.

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Speaker 5: Well, she can take one, and I have a feeling

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Speaker 5: you're gonna take the other. Well really, and if you don't,

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Speaker 5: I will along with Jake.

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Speaker 7: Dallas has been better as an offense. I think the

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Speaker 7: communication is better. I think all those things, like guys

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00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 7: just settle in better, and I think Dak will be

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Speaker 7: able to see things better this game and diagnose with

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00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 7: a line of scrimmage and take advantage when they decide

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00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 7: to blitz when they decide to, because if they're not

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00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 7: getting pressure the way they want to, they're going to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna go George Pickens. I'm tired,

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Speaker 4: that's fine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, seventeen of his third down or fourth down conversions catches,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry have been for first downs.

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Speaker 4: He leads the NFL in that, so yeah, keep targeting GP.

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Speaker 4: Let him eat. You see what I do say?

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Speaker 5: I love that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he let him eat.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Great, hope of the Cowboys offense can eat against Arizona

909
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Speaker 3: because we need a win. We need to win heading

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Speaker 3: into the bye I need to have them to have

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Speaker 3: all the momentum they can get coming back out of

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Speaker 3: the buy.

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Speaker 5: And I'm tired of salad, that too, Christy sick.

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Speaker 4: It's all good, all right, that's a wrapper they show.

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Speaker 4: We'll be back here tomorrow at eight am for.

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Speaker 3: Chrissy Scales, Icehan Wars and I'm the caud just said

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Speaker 3: we'll see y'all.

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Speaker 4: Back here tomorrow.

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