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Speaker 1: Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast

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Speaker 1: day Impure normal podcast network. Now get ready for another

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Speaker 1: episode of Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. The

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Speaker 1: depending on the subject matter and your needs. Hi. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sandra Champlain. For almost twenty five years, I've been on

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Speaker 1: a journey to prove the existence of life after death.

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Speaker 1: On each episode will discuss the reasons we now know

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Speaker 1: that our loved ones have survived physical death and so

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Speaker 1: will we. Welcome to shape as of the Afterlife. Here's

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Speaker 1: something I know about people interested in the topic of

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Speaker 1: life after death. We don't just buy one book on

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Speaker 1: the subject, we buy many. We don't just watch one

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Speaker 1: video on YouTube, we watch many. And we don't just

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Speaker 1: follow one radio show or podcast, we follow many. At

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Speaker 1: the time of this recording, our afterlife explorer ROBERTA. Grimes,

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Speaker 1: has over three hundred episodes of Seek Reality. My first

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Speaker 1: show called We Don't Die Radio has over three hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty episodes. Victor and Wendy zam It's Friday Afterlife

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Speaker 1: report that they send out via email. They haven't missed

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Speaker 1: a week since two thousand and eleven. That's over five

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Speaker 1: hundred afterlife reports. Bob Olsen from Afterlife TV is just

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Speaker 1: as passionate. He too is a former skeptic, and as

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Speaker 1: a private investigator, he has been doing some massive research

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Speaker 1: into credible evidence of the afterlife since nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 1: He's the author of the book Answers about the Afterlife

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Speaker 1: and has hundreds of episodes of Afterlife TV and you

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Speaker 1: can find out more at afterlife tv dot com. I'd

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Speaker 1: love to share with you now some questions and answers

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Speaker 1: I had in a conversation with Bob. Bob, you asked

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Speaker 1: so many people, so many questions on your show, But

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Speaker 1: I want to find out about you. What makes a

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Speaker 1: private investigator gets so interested in the afterlife and then

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Speaker 1: want to share it with so many people? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: you know, was wasn't thinking about this subject matter at

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Speaker 1: now I'm starting to forget. I think it was thirty four,

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Speaker 1: me to wonder about life after death, you know, And

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Speaker 1: determine if there really is life after death, just look

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Speaker 1: for evidence. And and of course, you know, when you're

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Speaker 1: So what kind of evidence did you start discovering and

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Speaker 1: your show? Uh? Wow, I And that's a big question. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this decision. And mediums are a little easy because they're

431
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Speaker 1: connecting with people in spirit and and as long as

432
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Speaker 1: they were a stranger, they don't know anything about those people.

433
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: Easy when they give us stuff that couldn't possibly know, right,

434
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: But with psychic stuff, it's you know, some of it

435
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: can come through, and it sounds very generally. Tell me

436
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: if if you're a psychic, I want to I want

437
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: you to tell me a lot of things about myself

438
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: that there's no way you could possibly know. You can't

439
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: find it on the internet. You can't. Uh, you know,

440
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 1: there's just you don't. You don't know anything about me,

441
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: So tell me. And usually, like even today, I had

442
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: to stop telling people that I was testing them. First

443
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 1: of all, they could look things up on the internet,

444
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: but that I I used to put things on the

445
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 1: internet that was that was fake. So I so you're funny,

446
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: it was funny. Well you gotta do it, you know,

447
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: you gotta do it. These are in the early years

448
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: and then but also they then they just got very

449
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 1: nervous about the whole thing because, you know, even though

450
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: I was just testing them for myself. You know, people

451
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: think I'm testing for the public. I'm testing for myself,

452
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 1: and it's me. It's my I'm the one who wants

453
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 1: to decide whether someone's going to go on one of

454
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: my sites or not. But uh, they would get very nervous,

455
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: and then that nervousness got interfered with the readings. So

456
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: I now usually go on and get readings under a

457
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Speaker 1: different name. It's time now for a short break. You're

458
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Speaker 1: listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the I Heart

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast am Paranormal podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: Now let's get back to Shades of the Afterlife with

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Speaker 1: Sandra Champagne. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm

472
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Speaker 1: Sander Champlain. Before we go too much farther, I want

473
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: to give you some links for some of the things

474
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: Bob has been speaking about. The first one Induced after

475
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Speaker 1: Death Communication, which Dr Alan Botkin found it where you

476
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: can actually have a session with a trained therapist and

477
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Speaker 1: you can go to Induced dash a d C dot com. Also,

478
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Speaker 1: I'm a bit on the fence about past life and

479
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: life between life regressions, but there's some fascinating information out

480
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: there and this might be of interest to you, and

481
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: you can actually have a session with someone to do

482
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: one of these life between life regressions. And if you

483
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: want to find out more, you can go to Newton

484
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: Institute dot org. And my friend William Peters runs what's

485
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: called Shared Crossings and that's all about shared death experiences

486
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: and if you have a loved one who is close

487
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: to passing, you can be with them and he and

488
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: his counselors train how to be with a loved one

489
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: as they're passing and gives you more information about sharing

490
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: in the death experience and actually seeing and experiencing what

491
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: your loved one is experiencing. So you can find out

492
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Speaker 1: more about that at Shared Crossings dot com. As we

493
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Speaker 1: get back to our conversation with private investigator Bob Olsen

494
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: from Afterlife tv dot com, there's some people that don't

495
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: know what the differences between a psychic, a medium, and

496
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: a psychic medium. So just basically, a psychic is someone

497
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: that uses the power of their soul to read you.

498
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: They can tell what's happened in your past, in your presence.

499
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: They can share are their feelings about what's contained in

500
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Speaker 1: your aura, because all information about us is something that

501
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: a soul can tap into. Now, the future is uncertain,

502
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: so don't let any psychic tell you about the future

503
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: because it just can't happen. And they also don't know

504
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: about your health and cannot predict your health. So if

505
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: someone gets into that, just don't even go there. As

506
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: I say, a medium uses the same psychic power and

507
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: we all have it as a matter of fact, we

508
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: just need a little training to get there. But they

509
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: use that same power of the soul. Instead of tapping

510
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: into your aura, they will tap into the aura the

511
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Speaker 1: energy field of a loved one who is no longer

512
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Speaker 1: walking on earth. Now, loved ones, although they're not walking

513
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: on earth, they are still very real people living in

514
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: the unseen world. So a psychic taps into your soul.

515
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: A medium to apps into the soul of someone no

516
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: longer walking on the planet, and a psychic medium is

517
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: pretty much just a medium because all mediums need to

518
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: use that psychic faculty. So if you're interested in learning

519
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: this whole world, make sure you take a class in

520
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: a psychic first, because it is that power that will

521
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: allow you to move on into mediumship. I'm not going

522
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: to trust what a psychic tells me about which decision

523
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: they think is the best one to make. I'm only

524
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: gonna recognize if what they tell tell me resonates with

525
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: what I was feeling myself. It's kind of like that.

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00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: It's kind of like when you go to your friends.

527
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: You know, you go to your friends and you go,

528
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make this decision, what do you think?

529
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: And you know, you know you're only really going to

530
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: go with the advice that they give you that you

531
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: think you know makes sense to you, like like your

532
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: own gun instincts were telling you the same thing, um

533
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: and and so now they're just confirming it for you.

534
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: And to me, that's what psychics do, is they just

535
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: confirm it for you. Mediums, you know, a completely different thing.

536
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: As I said, getch in touch with your friends and

537
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: family in the spirit world. Ye yeah, Bob. In your

538
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: book Answers about the afterlife, what kind of different topics

539
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: do you cover in that? One of the most fascinating

540
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: to me is near death experience. Now I love near

541
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: death experiences because not because I think people who have

542
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: had near death experiences no everything. I actually talk in

543
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: the book about why I don't think they know everything.

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00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: You know. I compare that too. You know, when you

545
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: have a near death experience and then you know, of

546
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: course you come back, it's kind of like, you know,

547
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: somebody going to Boston, and so maybe they know a

548
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: little bit about Boston, but they only know their own

549
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: experience in Boston, and it doesn't mean they know all

550
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: about Massachusetts, or certainly don't know all about the United States,

551
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: all about the world. And so a lot of people,

552
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: you know, listen to what people who have had near

553
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: death ex speriences have. It's one experience in their life,

554
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: and it's a fascinating experience. And I absolutely love it,

555
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: and I'll continue to interview those people because we get

556
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: something new all the time because every person's experience is subjective,

557
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: you know, there in in other words, their interpretations that

558
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: they make when they come back are subjective. It's you know,

559
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: based on who they are and and even their own beliefs.

560
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: But it's a temporary experience. They actually didn't die permanently,

561
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: so they don't actually know what it's like to be

562
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: dead in the spirit world, um, unable to come back. Uh.

563
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: And so that's one experience, but there's so much that

564
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: we can learn from them. So near death experiences a

565
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: really big one for me. I Um, you know, a

566
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: d c s are great. I love a d c S.

567
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: I talk a lot about after death communications at least

568
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: these are the experiences that everybody has had. So um,

569
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: some people see spirits, some people just feel a presence

570
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: in the room, you know. Some people get those you know,

571
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: like that phone call. I've literally heard people who have

572
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: got phone calls uh that some say they they heard

573
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: their loved one's voice from spirit. You know. Others just

574
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: say they were thinking about their loved one and in

575
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: the phone ran. You know, we have all these kinds

576
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: of coincidences where um coincidences are huge, and it's that

577
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: can be an a d C in itself. You know.

578
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: I remember this story that hit me very early on

579
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: in my journey here of this woman who passed and

580
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: her husband and their daughter were fighting and uh, in

581
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: the middle of their fight, UH, this candle, which there

582
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 1: was nothing wrong with it, apparently, Um, the candle was

583
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: just broken half and just fell like the candles stick

584
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 1: and half and fell on the table. And they both

585
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: looked at it, and then they looked at each other

586
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: and it was like they both knew, you know. They

587
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, you know, she doesn't want us to fight.

588
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: And this is the thing after death. Communications are important

589
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: because of the meaning that we each give to them.

590
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter what other people think about if

591
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: something like that happens to you. If you feel like

592
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: there's a presence in the room, people always know who

593
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, and you go with that. There's a

594
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: reason you're picking. There's you have your own intuitive abilities

595
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 1: and everybody who has had that experience with any significant degree,

596
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: always has known who that person is that is there,

597
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: and then it's just a matter whether they trust it

598
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: or not. You know. Um same thing with dream visitations.

599
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: Dream visitations, a lot of people have had their loved

600
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: ones in spirit come to them in a dream, always

601
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: the same thing, and they're basically saying, Hi, you know,

602
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm okay, I just want you to know him in

603
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: a great place. I'm happy, and I love you, and

604
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm watching over you. Typically always those are always the

605
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: important messages that are coming through, and they're like a

606
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: dream that is very unlike any other dream. So it's

607
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: not one of these dreams where you know, you're like

608
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: riding a horse on the beach and flying, you know,

609
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: in the air, and the next thing you know, you're

610
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: eating chocolate somewhere. Uh. It's just this. You feel as

611
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: though you're really in the room with your loved one

612
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: from spirit and there's not much else going on other

613
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: than you're having this conversation between you and for the

614
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: most part, they're telling you these things. You might be

615
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: able to ask a couple of questions, sometimes people get answered,

616
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: but most people are just sort of listening and they're

617
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: getting this information and then the loved one goes and

618
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: that's the dream. But one of the ways that they

619
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: know it's a dream visitation versus any other dream is

620
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: not only the content of it, but also they remembered

621
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: that vividly many years later, as if it happened the

622
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: night before, the same thing with near death experiences. People

623
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: tell me they remember him like they just happened yesterday,

624
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: and it could have happened when they were seven years old,

625
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: as vivid and as real. So I love that, isn't it.

626
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's fascinating and and fun. And

627
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: because everybody's experience is a little bit different than you know,

628
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: that's what keeps people like you and I going. But

629
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: you know I listed the beginning so many of the

630
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: things that I investigated, Uh, past life regressions, of course,

631
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: near death experiences, out of body experiences, past life recall.

632
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: This is just you know, especially kids. Remember new book

633
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: out right now, what's what's the name of it? I'm

634
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: sure you know about the that your audience is gonna

635
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: know this, um the little boy who believes he was

636
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: lou Garrick. Uh do you know I don't know that. Oh,

637
00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to check that out. Okay, okay, uh,

638
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: I have the book upstairs, but I don't have it.

639
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: Don't know it's past life. Recall a lot of people

640
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: who um, they hear their kids talking about that basically

641
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: that there they believe they're somebody else, or they believe that,

642
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: you know, there are a World War two pilots. Yes,

643
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: Soul Survivor was an old, older book that was the

644
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Speaker 1: same thing. And then the parents at first thought the

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647
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Speaker 1: child is is saying, is his name actually belonged to

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Speaker 1: a World War two pilot? And all the details that

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Speaker 1: the sun gave them, uh turned out to be true.

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Speaker 1: Death bed visions they talked about. You know, some people

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Speaker 1: call those pre death visions, which is a nicer way

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Speaker 1: of saying shared death experiences. Share death experiences, kind of

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Speaker 1: what I talked about earlier. You're sitting there and your

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Speaker 1: loved one passes, and then they share their their experience

656
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Speaker 1: going into the spirit world with you, and that's something

657
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: that's called shared death experience. Dream visitations, UM non medium

658
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Speaker 1: spirit visions. A lot of people who have had visions

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Speaker 1: of spirit like literally they can see them. They might

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Speaker 1: not even be able to hear them or talk to them,

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Speaker 1: but they can at least see them, and then sometimes

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Speaker 1: they can talk to them. Uh. And these are people

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Speaker 1: who are not mediums, everyday people and usually um, I

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Speaker 1: have found that these kinds of things happen right after

665
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Speaker 1: someone passes and that's who they see, you know, so

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Speaker 1: usually at the funeral or at the cemetery or wherever.

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00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: You know, this is even in their bedroom. Quite often

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Speaker 1: that happens in the bedroom. They'll they'll see their loved

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Speaker 1: one and their loved one is just trying to let

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Speaker 1: them know that they're okay. Channeling is a whole nother level. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, we have mediums who communicate with spirits people,

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Speaker 1: you know, to sort of help us with their grief

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Speaker 1: and dealing with laws. Then you have channels to b

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Speaker 1: um spirits. The book Bob couldn't think of the title

676
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Speaker 1: is The Boy Who Knew Too Much. And the other

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Speaker 1: back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain and

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Speaker 1: with our final segment today, I want you to hear

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Speaker 1: a story from Brian Phelannagan. Now, he has been a

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Speaker 1: police officer and a detective, and he's also taken classes

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Speaker 1: and mediumship and he has just an extraordinary story that

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Speaker 1: I think we'll just cap this episode off perfectly. Let's listen.

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Speaker 1: I was kind of raised by my grandmother, very dispelled Catholic.

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00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: You know, I could you couldn't do anything. I used

710
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 1: to do anything with my left hand, and she would

711
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 1: force me to my right hand because when she grew

712
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: when she grew up, apparently it was bad to do

713
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 1: anything with your left hand. You know. I always follow

714
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: her lead, and it's always you know, the little altar

715
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: boy in church, because my grandmother wanted me to be that.

716
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: We're always trying to make my grandmother proud, you know.

717
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: Growing up, I went to College for Accounting, and for

718
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Speaker 1: whatever reason, when I was at Yukon, I said, I

719
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: don't want to do this, and all of a sudden,

720
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Speaker 1: I just became a cop and it was weird. I

721
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Speaker 1: took a couple of tests, and when I graduated from Yukon,

722
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: like three months later, I got hired in in the

723
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Speaker 1: police department that I worked for. I don't know how

724
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Speaker 1: I got here, why I got here, but twenty years later,

725
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: here I am. And how about the life after death part?

726
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: What happened to you that even got you interested in

727
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: being somewhere where i'd meet you at a course of

728
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: mediumship like that? Yeah, So here's what happened, um, And

729
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you what happened, and

730
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go into the past somewhere because there's more

731
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: stories come out. So what happened was? I think the

732
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: trigger for me was I was working one evening, UM,

733
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: and I was literally one straight away from a house

734
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Speaker 1: fire call. And most of the time when we're out

735
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: on the road, we usually beat the fire department there

736
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: just because we're already out and we have a volunteer

737
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: fire department and a lot of these people on the

738
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: amount of women they come from the houses. Um. When

739
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: I got to this house, it literally was like a movie.

740
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: And the house was fully engulfed. There was electrical wires

741
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: zipping around the front yard. Um. And I saw a

742
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: mail on the ladder on the side of the house

743
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 1: and he was reaching in trying to get his child

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Speaker 1: out of the house. UM. So I ended up getting

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Speaker 1: him off the ladder. I mean it was black, billowing

746
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: smoke coming out of this house. I am getting him

747
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: at the ladder and I went around the back and

748
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: kicked I kicked the door him And it was always

749
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: like surreal. It is almost like I was in a

750
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: movie there with things on fire in the house. And

751
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: I got to the to the stairs and I didn't

752
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Speaker 1: know how to get up to I didn't know how

753
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Speaker 1: to get up the stairs because they're all the whole

754
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: stair was was on fire. And you know, there's a

755
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: there's a little boy in the house. And then and

756
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: then at this point in time, I heard this, you

757
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: know the sound of when you feel when when you

758
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: try to let a gas grill, you try to let

759
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: you try to light and try to light it won't

760
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: like and also just this big wash Noyes I heard

761
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: that clear as day, and I'm like, make a decision,

762
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, and I didn't, and I just there's no

763
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Speaker 1: way I was going to get up that stairs. It

764
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: was just fully in golf. There's no way I could

765
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Speaker 1: have gone up the stairs. And I got out of house,

766
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: and UM, a five year old boy passed. And you know,

767
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: although the doctor, UM, you know, the physicians that were

768
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: down there, and all the medical people were down there,

769
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: they said that UM, and a little boy was deceased,

770
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 1: proud of even me being there. You know, it's something

771
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: not only is a police officer, but it's something as

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00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: a human being you don't want to accept. You're like,

773
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: you don't you don't want to accept a failure of

774
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Speaker 1: not saving a life, especially you know, especially a young boy.

775
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Speaker 1: And then I have kids that are my My youngest

776
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: is nine now, so it's tough. It's it's really difficult.

777
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: And so that I foot that wasn't the crux of

778
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: what happened. Several years later, UM, I was involved in

779
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: an incident where a domestic where a woman UM was

780
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 1: physically hurt and we had to go to the house

781
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: to get UM arrest them. Now, I mean he he

782
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: physically tuned her up a little bit, and um, you know,

783
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: something told me and I and I found us out

784
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: later on at this batcher said it. Something told me

785
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: that there was going to be some kind of a

786
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: gun call this night. And so we go down there

787
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: and a gentleman I went down there with my partner.

788
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: He you know, twenty years military, was running a platoon

789
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: in Iraq. Broad star recipient, very sharp guy. And we talked.

790
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 1: We talked about how approach to the house, the whole

791
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,479
Speaker 1: nine yards. Well, we end up going to the house.

792
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: We went up, clearing room by room. He's in there somewhere. Um.

793
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: We finally get to his bedroom. What my buddy didn't

794
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,479
Speaker 1: tell me was was the door was blocked with a chair.

795
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: He kicked the door in. This guy is in tox Candida,

796
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: lying on his bed, and what happened was front of

797
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: mine went into the room. Um, and this is our mistake.

798
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: We were told there was no weapons. You know, we're

799
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: both seventeen year vets of policing. We should know that

800
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: there's always going to be a weapon. It's just it's

801
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: it's just stupid on our part. Um. The guy was

802
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 1: faking all the time. So when my friend went into

803
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: the room and I went and stepped over the threshold

804
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: of the bedroom. He pulled a handgunt on me, and

805
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,479
Speaker 1: I just saw all my life literally flashed before my eyes,

806
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: diving to the ground. My partner hit him with a taser,

807
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: and then when I went to grab the guy, I gotta,

808
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: I gotta executed up to my elbow. Um. And then

809
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: he turned the taser off, and when when he did,

810
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: the guy dropped it. But then when he got tazed,

811
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: he dropped the gun. But then when he turned the

812
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: taser off, he grabbed the gun with his finger on

813
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: the triggered a gun. And so now it is all

814
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: about restaurant match with a guy in the room with

815
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: a gun. Um. After that whole thing happened, things that

816
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: were kind of easy to me became hard, and so

817
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: I made the decision um, which you know, being a

818
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 1: police officer, you know he's supposed to be these these

819
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: um you know, we see so much. And coming from

820
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 1: a small town with twelve years of my career, you'd

821
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: work alone. You literally would have no backup. You used

822
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: to getting back in the car and you suck it

823
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: up and you move on, and all that stuff gets

824
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 1: stuffed down inside you. But you know, like there's something

825
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: inside of me that said I needed to take a

826
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: step away from policing. And that's when all and I

827
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: took about about a month off, in a month and

828
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 1: a half off of policing, and all this stuff started

829
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: coming out, all of it to the point where it

830
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: was just so weird. Sandra, I I felt like, um,

831
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: I was like my having nervous breakdown. It was just

832
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: it was weird. Like I knew that we were here

833
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: for love and that if people didn't get that, they're

834
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: gonna come back here over and over and over again.

835
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: I had to get a healing. I had to had

836
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: to had to get a healing. And you know, I'm

837
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: not wild by TV and all that that stuff, but

838
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: um Pat Longo in Long Island, who at the time

839
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: Teresa ca Puto. This was Teresa Puto's healer mentor. So

840
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: I drove down with my sister, bawling all the way

841
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: down there to get a healing from Pat Longo, and

842
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: she explained to me what was going on. You know,

843
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: you're you're empathic all this stuff. So then it all

844
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: starts getting interesting. I come back to Connecticut and there's

845
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: a mediumship shout out how what you were? The Mediumship

846
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: show Mediumship group and it was Joanne Gerber at a

847
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: place called East con in Connecticut. And I'm like, huh.

848
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: I almost felt compelled like I wanted to go there.

849
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: So my wife and I go there. I sit in

850
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 1: the very back of the room, and what happened next

851
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: blew my mind. Joanne is an amazing medium. Um I

852
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: owe everything to her. Um with I mean, most of

853
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: these people, they get rushed away. You never have a

854
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: chance to even talk to these people. You know, a

855
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: lot of the very um letter of mediums are very

856
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Speaker 1: any any influential person seems like they just get. But

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Speaker 1: what I love about a lot of the true mediums

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Speaker 1: are just so down to earth and they're just so

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Speaker 1: grounded and approachable. And so she did like an hour

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Speaker 1: reading for people, and then she took questions and answers.

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Speaker 1: She started to walk back to the front and then

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Speaker 1: she said okay, okay, and she turned around and she said,

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Speaker 1: he will not leave me alone. He has been persistent

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Speaker 1: all day long to me, who who lost? I see

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Speaker 1: an awful lot of smoke. Who lost a young boy? Uh?

866
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Speaker 1: Who can connect to this? So myself and a woman

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Speaker 1: in front of me. Um. We were both raised our

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Speaker 1: hands and she came back to us and she said,

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Speaker 1: I mean a five year old boy, and I kept

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Speaker 1: my hand up, and she had mentioned his name, which

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Speaker 1: I don't want to mention, you know, how to respect

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Speaker 1: for the family here, but she had mentioned his name

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Speaker 1: um and mentioned police saying before once she was doing

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Speaker 1: other readings, but she didn't know if she was cross linking.

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Speaker 1: And and she told me things about the house fire

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Speaker 1: when it was where he was found that there's just

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Speaker 1: there's no way, there's no way that she would because

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Speaker 1: this is not only these juvenile records, not only that

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00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: they're there's sealed stuff. There's nothing, there's no way that

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Speaker 1: she knew this stuff. Absolutely no way that she knew

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Speaker 1: this stuff. And he wanted me to tell his parents

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Speaker 1: that he was fine, he was okay, he was still

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Speaker 1: here right right. And I went up to Joanne afterwards,

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Speaker 1: and I remember a woman coming up in line and

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Speaker 1: she was hysterically crying and she said, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: Joey Anne. When I when she asked what my connection

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Speaker 1: to what? She asked me if this was my child?

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Speaker 1: And I said no more, I'm a police officer, says

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Speaker 1: I don't want to know. Don't please don't tell me

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Speaker 1: anything because that won't validate uh me if I if

891
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Speaker 1: I tell you things. Um. So this woman came up

892
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Speaker 1: in line and she was just hysterically crying at what

893
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Speaker 1: It just uh like mind blowing, mind blowing. And so

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Speaker 1: I was at a crossroad where, um, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: a police officer. Do you just show up at somebody's

896
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Speaker 1: house and say, Hi, I was here fifteen years earlier.

897
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Speaker 1: You know, how are people going to take that I

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Speaker 1: represent a professional organization? You know, how do you how

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Speaker 1: do you word these things? Um? It got Sandra, it

900
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 1: got so weirder from here. Um, So, Joanne, I asked

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Speaker 1: your question. I said, you know, I think things are

902
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: starting to happen and I can't understand what's going on

903
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Speaker 1: with me. So she said, why don't you call me

904
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Speaker 1: for reading? I'm doing readings coming up? Um. I looked

905
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Speaker 1: at I called. I looked at the prices and they're

906
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Speaker 1: actually were pretty reasonable. But you know, money was tight

907
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Speaker 1: with me at the time. So, um, I emailed the

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Speaker 1: office and I stally appreciate. I can't you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna have to not schedule it. Um, because I had

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Speaker 1: a reasonally rode and asked about the pricing, and next

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Speaker 1: thing I know, Joanne Gerber emails me and says, when

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Speaker 1: can I call you? And I at Alice just kind

913
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Speaker 1: blown away, and so she called me and she said, listen,

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Speaker 1: this is for everything you do for everybody else and

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Speaker 1: and in all of the times, I'm just saying, I'm

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Speaker 1: just an everything person. I'm a nobody, I'm I'm in

917
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Speaker 1: a I'm in a profession of service to other people.

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Speaker 1: And it irritates me to no end to see those

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Speaker 1: There are so many good police officers, men and women

920
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Speaker 1: that put the right foot forward every single day, and

921
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Speaker 1: then you have that out there to use that that

922
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Speaker 1: authority for for the power, and it's just it's so

923
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Speaker 1: disheartened to me for everything that how it was raised

924
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Speaker 1: and what I stand for. But Joanne wanted to give

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Speaker 1: back to me. I'm sorry to cut this time short

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Speaker 1: with Brian flann again, but if you want to hear

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Speaker 1: the full interview, you can go to my website Sandra

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Speaker 1: Champlain dot com and it is episode number one oh one. Also,

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Speaker 1: the way he's talking about Joanne, when you find yourself

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Speaker 1: a psychic or medium, make sure they're down to Earth.

931
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Speaker 1: Make sure they have no big ego, make sure they

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Speaker 1: are about service. I want to thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining us today. I'm Sandra Champlain, and you've been

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Speaker 1: listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio and Coast Coast, a M paranormal podcast network. And

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Speaker 1: if you like this episode of Shades of the Afterlife,

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Speaker 1: wait until you hear the next one. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: listening to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast,

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Speaker 1: a M paranormal podcast network,