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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in our.

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Speaker 3: Number two Monday edition of the program. Appreciate all of

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Speaker 3: you hanging out with us. We'll continue to take some

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Speaker 3: of your calls reacting to Moron DeSantis dropping out. We're

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Speaker 3: on the eve of the New Hampshire primary and we

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Speaker 3: are joined by Ohio Senator JD Vance, who has been

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Speaker 3: in the news quite a lot lately, also been campaigning

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Speaker 3: all over New Hampshire. I have seen with President Trump

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Speaker 3: who was soon to lock up the Republican nomination and

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Speaker 3: jd I'm sure you have been asked about this all

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Speaker 3: over New Hampshire by voters. But Axios had a story

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Speaker 3: out that said there are three primary contenders for the VP.

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Speaker 3: They mentioned Nicki Haley, they mentioned Elise Stefanic, and they

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Speaker 3: mentioned Senator JD Vance of Ohio. So look, you're not

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Speaker 3: on the role necessarily that Southeast Michigan is. But given

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Speaker 3: the Lions or in the end NFC Championship in Michigan

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Speaker 3: won the championship, which I know you hate because you're

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Speaker 3: an Ohio state guy, but you got elected to the

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Speaker 3: Senate in November at twenty twenty two and now Axio

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Speaker 3: says you're one of the three finalists for the VP.

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Speaker 2: So are you going to be the next VP or not?

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Speaker 4: You have to ask Donald Trump. Look, I'm extremely skeptical

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Speaker 4: of these rumors at this early stage. I actually really

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Speaker 4: agree with Donald Trump that the VP actually doesn't matter

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Speaker 4: that much politically. Of course, it matters a lot in governance.

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Speaker 4: So I don't think anybody really votes for VP. They

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Speaker 4: vote for Joe Biden or Donald Trump, and hopefully they

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Speaker 4: vote for Donald Trump. I mean the question of like,

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Speaker 4: am I interested? As I've said to many people, including

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Speaker 4: I think you guys, I'll tell the President however I can,

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Speaker 4: because I think it's important that we re elect him.

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Speaker 4: I think one of the most important ways he needs

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Speaker 4: close allies is actually not just as a vice president,

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Speaker 4: but as a US Senator. And so I think it's

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Speaker 4: a really important role for me to play in the

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Speaker 4: United States Senate, for the people of Ohio and for

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Speaker 4: the agenda that we all care about. But look, when

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Speaker 4: the President makes that decision, if it's me, then I'll

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Speaker 4: certainly be extremely interested in it, will deal with it.

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Speaker 5: Then exactly what we would expect the next vice president

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Speaker 5: to say Clay, Yes, exactly so JD though you know

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Speaker 5: we have Nikky Haley still technically at Rohnda Santis out.

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Speaker 5: How do you think this is going to play out now?

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Speaker 5: I mean, we're we're getting you know, we're getting to

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Speaker 5: the point where the polls for Democrats are looking bleak.

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Speaker 5: Trump is clearly going to be the nominee.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Do you think that they just try the Donald Trump

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Speaker 5: inside it insurrection strategy with all the legal stuff and

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Speaker 5: they stay with Joe Biden? Do you think that there's

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Speaker 5: still some kind of a plan? I mean between now

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Speaker 4: Well, I think a big question. It's always hard to

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Speaker 4: of it. Obviously, I've been a big ally of the

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Speaker 4: I think that this thing is over. I think the

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Speaker 4: really the big question is whether we continue to fight

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Speaker 4: voters in New Hampshire put it away tomorrow. Because I

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Speaker 4: think that there's a small enough Trump victory and I

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Speaker 4: think Trump will win tomorrow. Then the media and the

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Speaker 4: put another one hundred million dollars behind this thing attacking

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump. That won't change whether he's the nominee. It

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Speaker 4: How do I think this thing plays out in the

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Speaker 4: general election? I mean, look, I think Trump definitely has

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Speaker 4: he's not and this is one of the huge advantages

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Speaker 4: he always had of Arona Santas and Hailey. I made

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Speaker 4: Trump has baggage, Well, everybody has baggage. The question is

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Speaker 4: I think Trump's ability to show resilience in the face

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Speaker 4: I don't know that it's really going to matter. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if you guys saw this. There was a

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Speaker 4: so they're pretty good pollster. They had Trump beating Biden

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Speaker 4: And again he was up fifty three forty seven against

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Speaker 4: a referendum on the failed policies of Joe Biden against

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Speaker 3: All right, let's dive into what's going on at our

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Speaker 3: southern border and also what's going on in Ukraine and

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Speaker 3: the attempt to connect the two, which we are not allowed.

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Speaker 3: Not big fans of obviously on this program, but you've

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Speaker 3: in Ukraine. Where are we headed there? And also what

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Speaker 4: So briefly on Ukraine, total quagmire. The Ukrainians at this

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Speaker 4: point are not making real advances. Another sixty one billion

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Speaker 4: one additional thing I've been talking about a lot the

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Speaker 4: Do you know that because the way that they count

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Speaker 4: illegal immigrants in the census, California has five congressional seats.

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Speaker 4: It wouldn't have if the illegal immigration numbers were zero

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Speaker 4: in this country. So we're actually talking about stealing the

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Speaker 4: democratic legitimacy away from American citizens when you bring into

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Speaker 4: American people. This is a huge, huge crisis of legitimacy

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Speaker 4: Washington is that leadership, and I say in both parties,

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Speaker 4: is trying to pair these packages where we're Republicans allegedly

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Speaker 4: get border security and Democrats get money for Ukraine. What

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Speaker 4: is a massive amount of amnesty, no realistic border security,

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Speaker 4: a horrendous deal for Republicans. And it's exactly why Donald Trump,

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Speaker 4: Why do we keep on making these terrible deals where

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Speaker 4: It's exactly because of what's going on in DC. Now,

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Speaker 4: final point I'll make on this. We have been told

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Speaker 4: or two. Immigration law is very complicated. It is Monday.

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Speaker 4: I still haven't seen text on this thing. And importantly,

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Speaker 4: if they really wanted to trade border for Ukraine, they

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Speaker 4: could say, we'll give you Ukraine money, Joe Biden, if

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Speaker 4: for Ukraine, JD.

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Speaker 5: When you're talking about Ukraine, you know, I saw Nikki

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Speaker 5: If Russia is having I mean, you were a military guy.

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Speaker 5: If Russia is having this much trouble in Ukraine, why

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Speaker 5: with more sophisticated defense systems. I don't get that argument.

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Speaker 4: Well, you don't get that argument because it's a terrible argument.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't make any sense. Russia can't, as you say,

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Speaker 4: handle Ukraine. They're certainly not going to invade a much

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Speaker 4: The other thing that this arg it really gets wrong

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Speaker 4: You know, the old foreign policy wisdom is that deterrence

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Speaker 4: You guys have heard me say this. Our number of

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Speaker 4: further we weaken our own capability. That weakness, that lack

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Speaker 4: So if we want to prevent a major world historical

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Speaker 3: How do you think Joe Biden would respond if China

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Speaker 4: It's a very good question. I thought about a lot.

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Speaker 4: I have no idea. I think that what he would

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Speaker 4: and it wouldn't deter the Chinese. That the reason I

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Speaker 4: now we should be giving the Taiwanese every single weapons

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Speaker 4: Biden is failing to do that in some cases because

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Speaker 4: the Chinese indade Taiwan. But I don't know, man, Your

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Speaker 4: guess is as good as mine. I think it's really

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Speaker 4: important that we deter the Chinese now rather than pick

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Speaker 3: You mentioned a little bit earlier, and I agree with

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Speaker 3: you that Trump is baked in. It's really hard to

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Speaker 3: or even really move people off what they think of

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Speaker 3: lot of Nicki Haley's past is not known very well.

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Speaker 3: Front page story on the New York Times that I

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Speaker 3: Nicki Haley really had no money at all, and then

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Speaker 3: a lot of money. You know, that's a story as

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Speaker 3: Have they really Democrats opened up the antie Nikki Haley

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Speaker 4: You can't really knock the guy down at this point.

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Speaker 5: JD vans everybody. JD Senator Vance, appreciate you being with us.

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Speaker 2: From the front Lines of Truth.

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Speaker 5: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 2: So you know Clay.

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Speaker 5: Over the weekend, I was watching The Crown with Carrie.

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Speaker 5: We were watching The Crown together.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, a.

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Speaker 5: Letter to the luncheon club about boys being boys.

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Speaker 2: But it might blow back on the Royal family.

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Speaker 5: I think the Royal Family's absurd, but it is pretty

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Speaker 3: Don't know, she's amazing. I can't believe that we're both

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Speaker 5: told her, no, we have to earn our Diannasys and

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Speaker 5: but there's a scene where where Elizabeth says, and I

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Speaker 5: is nothing. And she said that, and I was like,

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Speaker 5: you know who doesn't get enough credit for making a

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Speaker 7: Didn't decide to just run into the bus, didn't want

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Speaker 2: Remember at one point, at one point he.

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Speaker 5: Was the you know, the the sort of super secret

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Speaker 5: cycle when there won't be a Trump phenomenon. Glenn Youngkin's

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Speaker 5: Definitely the right move.

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Speaker 3: Great call, great call. He hasn't wounded himself in any way.

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Speaker 3: It's a little bit like coming back for your senior year.

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Speaker 3: Although there's people out there already saying, well, if Trump

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Speaker 3: And then he would be whatever, he's eighty one or

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Speaker 3: Twenty four, it'll be clear, both decks will be clear,

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Speaker 2: And I think you're right.

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Speaker 3: Glynn Youngn'll be in that mix, Uh, gad Ron DeSantis

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Speaker 3: What's part of the rest of this show tomorrow and

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Speaker 3: then Wednesday we'll be talking about the actual results as always,

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Speaker 3: But Mike wrote in and said, if the left truly

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Speaker 3: to election in twenty twenty four. That is the political

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Speaker 3: gamble that they are making, and Republicans are making the

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Speaker 3: choice to put Trump in Now, we'll never know, maybe

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Speaker 3: there's a multiverse out there, what the impact of the

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Speaker 3: Republican primary would have been if Democrats had never charged

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Speaker 3: Trump with any crime. I actually think it would have

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Speaker 3: been far more competitive and we may have ended up

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Speaker 3: with a different nominee if Trump were not charged with

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Speaker 3: the crime at all. Now, having said all that, Georgia,

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Speaker 3: it appears the state charges in Georgia are basically collapsing

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Speaker 3: in real time, as we told you, based on allegations

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Speaker 3: which now seem quite clear that Fawnie Willis decided to

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Speaker 3: hire her mister, her paramour, her lover, and paid him

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Speaker 3: six hundred and fifty thousand dollars in taxpayer funds. There

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Speaker 3: now has been evidence that comes out that shows all

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Speaker 3: of the money that was spent, the taxpayer dollars going

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Speaker 3: on vacations again, taxpayer dollars he was paid Twohortly. After

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Speaker 3: she was elected as the Fulton County DA, she said,

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Speaker 3: there's not going to be any inappropriate relationships in this

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Speaker 3: office while she's in charge.

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Speaker 8: So listen, supervisors under my leadership that are not encouraging

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Speaker 8: and building up my staff will not be supervisors long

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Speaker 8: in my administration, and I certainly will not be choosing

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Speaker 8: people to date that work under me. Let me just

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Speaker 8: say that I think that what citizens are really really

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Speaker 8: concerned about is if you chose to have inappropriate contact

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Speaker 8: with employees. I mean, there's nothing that I can say

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Speaker 8: on it other than it is distracting, and it is

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Speaker 8: certainly inappropriate for the number one law enforcement officer in

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Speaker 8: the state, and it just it really really saddens me,

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Speaker 8: and it will be very unfortunate if the taxpayers of

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Speaker 8: this community have to pay for any of those lawsuits.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, fuck that is she has done exactly what

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Speaker 3: she said would never happen.

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Speaker 2: I think it's it's clear that.

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Speaker 5: The Georgia trial of Donald Trump, the whole Rico thing,

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Speaker 5: it was a stretch to begin with. We always agreed

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Speaker 5: that that was one that you know, as soon as

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Speaker 5: it became clear they were nineteen defendants or eighteen defendants

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Speaker 5: or whatever it was going to be, they weren't going

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Speaker 5: to be able to get this done in time. Now,

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Speaker 5: I think part of the calculation there was always it

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Speaker 5: was politically advantageous for Fani Willis, regardless of the timeline.

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Speaker 5: And also they because it's state charges not federal charges,

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Speaker 5: theoretically they could wait until even after the election to

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Speaker 5: bring it all and they could still get Trump right.

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Speaker 5: I mean, and I know there's been some back and

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Speaker 5: forth on whether President could get rid of state charges

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Speaker 5: as well as federal charges. But anyway, what we have

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Speaker 5: now is the complete collapse of this whole thing, and

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Speaker 5: one of the problems with prosecutorial misconduct, and the reason

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Speaker 5: it has to be taken so seriously is that, especially

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Speaker 5: in a situation like this, you have multiple cases being

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Speaker 5: brought against an individual, the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Just looks bad.

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Speaker 5: It's like, this is the kind of prosecutor that brings

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Speaker 5: a case against Donald Trump, somebody with this level of disconnect,

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Speaker 5: this kind of a compromise ethics on display. So to me,

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Speaker 5: this whole thing is falling apart. But it also is

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Speaker 5: a reminder that this was all a political hit. And

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Speaker 5: so I think that the the optics of this are

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Speaker 5: really bad for all of the Trump trials. Right, It's

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Speaker 5: more than just even the Fannie Willis trial, because, as

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Speaker 5: I've been saying all along, you just look at some

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Speaker 5: of these things without even knowing some of the details

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Speaker 5: of the case, Clay, all the charges are brought in

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Speaker 5: the election year. Really, they're They're gonna wait, so all

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Speaker 5: the trials happened the election year. Donald Trump is gonna

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Speaker 5: be you know, eighty before long, never charged with a

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Speaker 5: crime before in his life, all of a sudden, four

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Speaker 5: felony indictments. I mean, you just look at the percentages

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Speaker 5: of the numbers, and now you have really one of

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Speaker 5: the prosecutors bringing this is a clear partisan hack who

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Speaker 5: probably should lose their law.

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Speaker 2: License, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: I think that people look at this, normal people look

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Speaker 5: at this stuff, and they come away with the conclusions

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Speaker 5: that they should, which is that the whole thing is

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Speaker 5: a farce.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And again, even the New York Times, which tries to

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Speaker 3: ignore a lot of these stories, on the Sunday New

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Speaker 3: York Times had a front page story about Fawnie Willis.

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Speaker 2: And this relationship with Nathan Wade.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know when it's going to be officially

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Speaker 3: kicked to the curb. The story that would really open

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Speaker 3: a hornet's nest here Buck is now not the Atlantic case,

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Speaker 3: because I think Fawnie Willis, I think all that's falling apart,

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Speaker 3: she's going to have to step down. She may be

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Speaker 3: if she got charged with crimes, which I don't think.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy that she could be charged with crimes based

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Speaker 3: on hiring her lover paying him this much money, and

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Speaker 3: if he were charged as well. Again, and the argument

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Speaker 3: you could make is that she was profiting off of

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Speaker 3: taxpayer dollars by hiring him. I don't know what the

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Speaker 3: protocol is but I'm quite clear and certain that there

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Speaker 3: had to be some sort of protocol where you would

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Speaker 3: acknowledge if you were in a relationship with someone, especially

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Speaker 3: if you're in a supervisory role over that individual, that

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Speaker 3: is a big no no. And pretty much any company

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Speaker 3: in America you have to go. I mean some of

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Speaker 3: you out there listening may have been in this situation

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Speaker 3: before where you have to go to HR and say, hey,

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Speaker 3: we are dating. This is a situation that's going on,

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Speaker 3: so the company's aware of it. If there were criminal

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Speaker 3: charges brought against her, and I think there very well

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Speaker 3: could be. This could be a situation where all of

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Speaker 3: the behind the scenes, covert relationship between the Biden administration,

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Speaker 3: Department of Justice, and the way all these charges were

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Speaker 3: brought could go up and smoke in a big way.

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Speaker 3: And you and I have been saying to everybody out there,

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Speaker 3: commentators who dreamed of Trump going away to prison, looked

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Speaker 3: at the Alvin Bragg charges and said, this is the

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Speaker 3: biggest garbage that could possibly exist. So I think you

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Speaker 3: tossed that on the scrappy. The South Florida charges are

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Speaker 3: the most significant because there's almost a strict liability of

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Speaker 3: fens associated with these classified documents. Now Biden has his

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Speaker 3: own classified documents scandal, and the jury pool is way better,

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Speaker 3: so that to me is also kind of shunt it

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Speaker 3: off to the side. Plus it's not going to happen.

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Speaker 3: I don't think based on the timing before the actual election,

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Speaker 3: the Jack Smith case now becomes even more integral and

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Speaker 3: central to everything that the Biden administration is trying to do.

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Speaker 3: And so remember that case right now is scheduled for

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Speaker 3: March fifth. There's no way it's going to start on

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Speaker 3: March fifth. I don't think it could start until the summer.

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Speaker 3: But I wonder whether they're going to start the Alvin

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Speaker 3: Bragg case buck because that one seems to be potentially

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Speaker 3: the easiest to get going and then they take them

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Speaker 3: out of order that we're expecting right now. That's one

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Speaker 3: I think the schedule now may shift to Alvin Bragg

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Speaker 3: bringing his super weak charges in New York State first,

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Speaker 3: and if that happens, we'll see how that impacts things.

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Speaker 5: wrong button. Jake in North Carolinas. Some thoughts on DeSantis,

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Speaker 4: Hey, how are we doing today? Well?

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Speaker 6: Good as a as a solid Trump supporter right from

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Speaker 6: the very start. This is I wished Ron de Santas

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Speaker 6: eight months ago would have said he was going to

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Speaker 6: twenty eight. Ron Desandas would have walked right into the

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Speaker 6: presidency after four years with Trump, and he could have

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Speaker 6: been quite an ally and they could work together rather

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Speaker 6: than against each other.

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Speaker 2: The child, thank you for the call.

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Speaker 3: And we had a lot of people arguing that for

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Speaker 3: With that, again, you get into some Eleventh Amendment issues

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Speaker 3: which involve both Trump and DeSantis being Florida residents when

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Speaker 3: Trump was still living in New York. This would not

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Speaker 3: have been an issue. DeSantis obviously is a Florida resident

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Speaker 3: because he's the governor. Having two people from the same

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Speaker 3: state potentially creates constitutional issues. Never happened before, and historically

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Speaker 3: you can think of why that was buck because in

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Speaker 3: that if the president and vice president both ended up

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Speaker 3: from the same state, it would be hard to manage

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Speaker 3: all of that. So that is what is going on

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Speaker 3: as it pertains to the idea of a DeSantis Trump VP.

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Speaker 5: There's Ron's not going to be Trump's VP. I think

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Speaker 5: there's I would be absolutely shocked beyond words. And I look,

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Speaker 5: I know some people that are pretty close in on

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Speaker 5: uh on DeSantis world as well as frump world, and uh,

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Speaker 2: Uh. David in Brainerd, Minnesota, what's going on? David?

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Speaker 9: Hey, guys, you know that that kid in high school

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Speaker 9: choir that stood next to you that was tone deaf,

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Speaker 9: choir director, does that kid a disservice that he tells

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Speaker 9: him or her that they're great and they're they're destined

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Speaker 9: for greatnesses of vocalist.

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Speaker 2: Did can I pause you here for a second?

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Speaker 3: I thought you were specifically calling me out because I

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Speaker 3: was in I'm tone deaf. I cannot sing my chorus

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Speaker 3: instructor when I was in high school. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if I told this on the show. Buck, you know

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Speaker 3: what the chorus instructor did. He walking around I was

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Speaker 3: a base. He told me you mouth the words now,

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Speaker 3: you would announce the song. You have a good voice.

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Speaker 3: You announced the songs that we are going to sing.

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Speaker 3: But I don't want you actually singing because you throw

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Speaker 3: off the rest of the basis. So when you just

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Speaker 3: called in James Skandrick, by the way, Rest in Peace

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Speaker 3: was my chorus instructor. When you just what he just

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Speaker 3: called in, Buck, I was like, wow, does he know

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Speaker 3: my entire singing career? So sorry to cut you off,

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Speaker 3: but you're literally talking about something that happened to me.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't sing. I have un toone death.

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Speaker 9: So that instructor would have done you at the service

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Speaker 9: play if he would have told you you were bound

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Speaker 9: for good things as a vocalist. Well, that's the thing

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Speaker 9: with Nicki Haley. She's been surrounded by people who have

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Speaker 9: lied to her, overinflated her abilities, and told her that

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Speaker 9: she's bound for greatness. So my prediction with her is

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Speaker 9: that after New Hampshire she's going to drop out. She

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Speaker 9: doesn't want to be embarrassed in South Carolina. But in

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Speaker 9: addition to dropping out, I really think she's going to

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Speaker 9: pull a Chris Christy and she's not going to give

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Speaker 9: Donald Trump her endorsement.

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Speaker 5: So I don't see that she's gonna want them all

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Speaker 5: thank you. I mean, look, the gentleman could be right,

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Speaker 5: but I don't. I think he's almost certainly wrong on

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Speaker 5: this one. She's gonna fall on line. She's not gonna

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Speaker 5: want to. She's not looking to be She wants to

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Speaker 5: be in the good graces of the GOP power establishment.

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Speaker 5: She's not trying to show up on Morning Joe on

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Speaker 5: MSNBC at the cool Kids Table and become a Democrat.

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Speaker 2: Like I don't think.

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Speaker 5: I don't think Nikkiy Haley's going Liz Cheney.

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Speaker 2: Do you.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 3: I think she wants to win in twenty eight and

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Speaker 3: I think it's some What I agree with our caller

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Speaker 3: about is it's not just Nicki Haley. Everybody who gets

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Speaker 3: involved in politics eventually ends up surrounded by SINCA fans

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Speaker 3: who all tell them you are the greatest because those

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Speaker 3: those associates, the people who work for you, owe their

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Speaker 3: power to your success, which is why they often don't

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Speaker 3: want you to drop out all those things. But I'm

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Speaker 3: with you, Buck, I think Nikki Haley wants to run

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Speaker 3: in twenty eight when she loses New Hampshire, as we

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Speaker 3: think she will, but everybody go vote tomorrow, then I

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Speaker 3: think she will have the same decision to make that

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Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis made, And I don't think there's gonna be

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Speaker 3: any polling that suggests that she's gonna win a one

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Speaker 3: on one battle coming off a loss in New Hampshire.

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Speaker 5: Speaking about polling, friends, there's some interesting data to suggest

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Speaker 5: where this whole election could be going depending on how

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Speaker 5: these indictments end up with, whether with guilty verdicts or not,

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Speaker 5: we shall make sense of that. Plus more on the border.

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Speaker 5: New York City is considering something insane. On the crime front,

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Speaker 5: Biden is still technically the nominee.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot to talk about