WEBVTT - Trump’s Immigration Policy Hits Home (Part 1)

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting from the Hip Hop Weekly Studios. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>welcome you to another episode of Civic Cipher, where our

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<v Speaker 1>mission is to foster allyship empathy and understanding. I am

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<v Speaker 1>your host, ramses.

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<v Speaker 2>Job, he is Rams's jaw. I am q Ward. You

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<v Speaker 2>are tuned into Civic Cypher, Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>You are, and we are back like we never left,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think that we will this week. I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to stick around because we are going to well.

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<v Speaker 1>Q is going to share a story of something that

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<v Speaker 1>happened as of the day of this recording, so this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is kind of hot off the presses, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to share a little bit about the real

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<v Speaker 1>world implications of the anti immigrant sentiment and how it

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<v Speaker 1>has diffused throughout this country and how it has even

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<v Speaker 1>Q's household, and so stick around for that story. We're

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<v Speaker 1>also going to be talking about the fires in la

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<v Speaker 1>specifically the neighborhood of Altadena, California, and that's a historical

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<v Speaker 1>black neighborhood there, and we're also going to be discussing

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<v Speaker 1>ways that you can help, And of course it's important

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<v Speaker 1>to frame that conversation properly in the in the political arena,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the ways people are talking about a ways

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<v Speaker 1>people are, you know, trying to ensure that there's not

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<v Speaker 1>an outpouring of empathy and and there's there's no real

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<v Speaker 1>sense of community nationally, and we're going to do our

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<v Speaker 1>best to kind of inject a little bit of that

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<v Speaker 1>back into the narrative because there's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>that are being infected by the fires there, and we

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<v Speaker 1>are one of the shows that is able to reach

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<v Speaker 1>the country, and so we're going to do our best

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<v Speaker 1>to try to shed some light on some communities that

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<v Speaker 1>you may have overlooked. But before we get there, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to start off, as ever, with some Ebony excellence,

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<v Speaker 1>shall we I think we shall. Today's Ebny Excellence is

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<v Speaker 1>sponsored by Actively Black. There's greatness in our DNA, visit

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<v Speaker 1>actively black dot com and Q and I. We discussed

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<v Speaker 1>this before and we think this is such a great idea.

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to dedicate this week's Abney Excellence to

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<v Speaker 1>the great Michelle Obama. So I'll share a bit the

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<v Speaker 1>article that we have from you. This is from The Independent.

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<v Speaker 1>Former First Lady Michelle Obama is skipping Donald Trump's inauguration

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<v Speaker 1>because she doesn't want to plaster on a smile for

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<v Speaker 1>someone she fundamentally believes as a threat to American democracy,

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<v Speaker 1>according to a report, Now, of course, Donald Trump's already

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<v Speaker 1>been elected, and he's been president for some time now.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're just getting to this in the way our

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<v Speaker 1>recording schedule works, you know, we decided that we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to go back and retroactively share this in a couple

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<v Speaker 1>other things. I'll continue. It was confirmed last week that

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<v Speaker 1>she would not be attending the President of lex swearing in,

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<v Speaker 1>but her office did not give any further explanation in

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<v Speaker 1>its brief statement. The forty fourth president was introduced by

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<v Speaker 1>himself and took his seat beside sorry inside the Capitol rotunda,

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<v Speaker 1>next to his fellow former presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as their wives, Hillary Clinton and Laura Bush.

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<v Speaker 1>Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi also snubbed the event. Michelle

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<v Speaker 1>Obama also missed Jimmy Carter's state funeral last week due

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<v Speaker 1>to a scheduling conflict, although it subsequently emerged that she

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<v Speaker 1>had been on vacation in Hawaii. And it's that sentence

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<v Speaker 1>that I think kind of helped us decide on whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not to include this in our ebony excellence. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>black women in general have done enough fighting. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>just born to fight and die. You deserve to go

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<v Speaker 1>on vacation in Hawaii rather than sit next to someone

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<v Speaker 1>who would rather you didn't exist in his in his world.

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<v Speaker 1>So shout out to missus shall Obama for leading the

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<v Speaker 1>way even now, showing us what it means to prioritize yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, first up to I know a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>this story, but I stopped you in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the story because you know, every so often we end

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<v Speaker 1>up with something that kind of knocks on our own doorstep. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's I wanted to hear this along with the listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that I heard some of it. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know you had something happened to you earlier today,

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<v Speaker 1>the day we're recording, and you know it started all

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<v Speaker 1>the way up at the White House. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>share a bit about your day, and then I'll let

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<v Speaker 1>everyone know when the point where where I listened up to. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's part of this story.

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<v Speaker 2>Won't be new to listeners that have been with us

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<v Speaker 2>for some time. I'm very very vocal and very very

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<v Speaker 2>outward with my disdain for our newly elected president and

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<v Speaker 2>what I've learned over the last ten years is that

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<v Speaker 2>not all the people that I know, love, care about,

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<v Speaker 2>and commune with agree with me when it comes to him.

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<v Speaker 2>The interesting thing about the way that I learned that, though,

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<v Speaker 2>is that they reach out to me to apologize for, defend,

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<v Speaker 2>and make excuses for him. I don't go to them

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<v Speaker 2>to preach my disdain for him. They come to me

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<v Speaker 2>to tell me all the reasons why I shouldn't feel

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<v Speaker 2>how I feel about them. And it's always been very

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<v Speaker 2>confusing to me because it's always been very clear who

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<v Speaker 2>he is and who he aims to hurt. He's never

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<v Speaker 2>pretended to be an ally, and that's the thing that

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<v Speaker 2>bothers me the most about, not just him, but the

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<v Speaker 2>people I know who defend him. It's not like they're

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<v Speaker 2>being tricked. He's never pretended to be anyone other than

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<v Speaker 2>who he is. So you don't like it's not even

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<v Speaker 2>there's no veneer, there's nothing that you have to see through.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no cloak, there's no act, there's no costume. He

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<v Speaker 2>shows up as a sexist, racist, bigoted person, and that

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<v Speaker 2>should be enough, I think for most of the people

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<v Speaker 2>that we know and care about to agree that he's

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<v Speaker 2>not good, except he's somehow figured out a way to

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<v Speaker 2>have people still like give him bail. And I've always

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<v Speaker 2>argued I always start with my kids, you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>he ran for president the first time around, and Ramsen

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<v Speaker 2>and I live in Arizona for most of our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>This has been a Republican state post pandemic. I think

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the few times, if ever, that the

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<v Speaker 2>state didn't show up at the polls and help elect

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<v Speaker 2>a Republican leader. And I live downtown in the city

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<v Speaker 2>that I live in. The largest polling location is across

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<v Speaker 2>the street from my house, and I got to hear

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<v Speaker 2>people chant build that wall while holding my half Mexican baby.

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<v Speaker 2>And I always try to take the story there because

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<v Speaker 2>it should be the most easy thing for someone to understand,

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<v Speaker 2>even if you were gonna make it in your mind, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>for one person to not like that guy, the black

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<v Speaker 2>guy with half Mexican kids, you think would be the

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<v Speaker 2>one where you would like. Okay, I like him, but

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<v Speaker 2>I understand why he doesn't. And for people who are

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<v Speaker 2>in my life personally, and again, people who are listen

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<v Speaker 2>to our show, you got to hear me in almost

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<v Speaker 2>tears and ramses in a heidened level of frustration, talk

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<v Speaker 2>about my son being kicked and called the N word

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<v Speaker 2>at school. Yeah, emboldened by the Trump effect, for people

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<v Speaker 2>to stop being so polite, for people to wear their

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<v Speaker 2>racism like a jacket, like a cloak, like a cape,

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<v Speaker 2>and be super racist and be blatant racist and aggressive racist.

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<v Speaker 2>And again back then, I pushed back against people that

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<v Speaker 2>I know and care about, saying, yeah, I'm glad people

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<v Speaker 2>are finally admitting how they really feel and saying what

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<v Speaker 2>they really think in private.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, why.

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<v Speaker 2>What they think and doing private has no impact on

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<v Speaker 2>your life at all? What they do in because society,

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<v Speaker 2>for a large amount of time required them to pretend,

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<v Speaker 2>even if just pretend, to be decent people in public,

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<v Speaker 2>to be polite, to be respectaful, and to be less

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<v Speaker 2>dangerous to you and your people. And we saw something

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<v Speaker 2>coming back then. And then he got voted out, and

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly thought, briefly, Okay, that's done, that's over. But

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<v Speaker 2>he never really went away. And then he started being

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<v Speaker 2>in the news all the time for being in court,

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<v Speaker 2>for having all these criminal and civil charges against him

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<v Speaker 2>and losing all these criminal and civil cases and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>teflon Don showed that nothing can stop him. He all

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<v Speaker 2>the way up on his remy Ma and Fat Joe

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<v Speaker 2>back in the election cycle, won the presidency again, and

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<v Speaker 2>as I spoke up against him while he was running

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<v Speaker 2>and after he won, kind of just venting my frustration

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<v Speaker 2>and my disappointment with my fellow Americans and US as

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<v Speaker 2>a nation just bending the knee to this criminal, this crook,

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<v Speaker 2>this con man. Once again, people in my dms preaching

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<v Speaker 2>the word of Donald J. Trump and telling me all

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<v Speaker 2>the reasons why I shouldn't be upset and how it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to help the economy and all this nonsense. And

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<v Speaker 2>my plea months ago when we learned he was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the president again, was what happens when he

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<v Speaker 2>keeps his word. When he decidedly puts a cross hair

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<v Speaker 2>on all brown people. I won't say black and brown,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just say brown, because all of us are brown.

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<v Speaker 2>When he puts the target on us, then what because

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<v Speaker 2>my kid, just like Rams's kid, just like most of

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<v Speaker 2>my friend's children. If in a group of black people

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<v Speaker 2>look like black people, but in a group of every

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<v Speaker 2>race racially andguous, if you put my son in a

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<v Speaker 2>room full of Cuban children. He'll look like a Cuban kid, Mexican, Haitian, Colombian, Dominican, Nigerian, Ethiopian, Eritrean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, only serrenemies.

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<v Speaker 2>I could go on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, only seven percent of the world is white, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I could go on, And we are somehow, so we're

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<v Speaker 2>so pure and we're so us that we've separated ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>from Haitians when they said they were eating pets, from Africans,

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<v Speaker 2>when they told them to go back to their s

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<v Speaker 2>whole countries, from Mexicans when they called them criminals infiltrating

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<v Speaker 2>our borders to commit crimes and rape our women and

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<v Speaker 2>sell drugs. From all these marginalized groups us, we had

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<v Speaker 2>the nerve to sit this one out as if it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't eventually land back on our doorsteps. And I wake

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<v Speaker 2>up today, and because I work in news and around

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<v Speaker 2>just works and news, we get more news alerts than

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<v Speaker 2>you could possibly imagine. It's part of the gig. When

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<v Speaker 2>we got this job, we signed up for a service,

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<v Speaker 2>and we get thousands of updates and headlines. That's part

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<v Speaker 2>of how we decide what we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>when we crack these microphones for you, and of course

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<v Speaker 2>the one that stood out to me the most. At

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<v Speaker 2>about seven o'clock this morning, Trump authorizes ICE to target courthouses, schools,

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<v Speaker 2>and churches. Once upon a time, those locations, those places,

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<v Speaker 2>those buildings had some sovereignty, they had some sacred nature

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<v Speaker 2>to them. Law enforcement wouldn't violate people praying to their God,

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<v Speaker 2>children learning, and people doing their jobs in our judicial system.

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<v Speaker 2>But Donald Trump's a pig, and he doesn't care about

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<v Speaker 2>decorum or anything that was in place before he got there,

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<v Speaker 2>if he didn't create it. It's bad, especially things that

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<v Speaker 2>protect anyone, because if a law was created to protect someone,

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<v Speaker 2>that means that people weren't being kind to those people

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<v Speaker 2>in the first place, so we had to create a

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<v Speaker 2>law to protect him. Trump wants to make sure they're

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<v Speaker 2>no longer protected. Whoever they are, whoever we are, as

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<v Speaker 2>how we should feel. But we've done a great job

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<v Speaker 2>of othering other cultures, other religions, people with different sexual orientation,

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<v Speaker 2>people with different hairstyles and different skin colors, people who

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<v Speaker 2>subscribe to a different way of dressing themselves. So when

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<v Speaker 2>I saw schools on the list, my greatest fear started

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<v Speaker 2>to bear fruit that followed up by a message that

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<v Speaker 2>said the Arizona GOP signs a bill stating that they

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<v Speaker 2>will cooperate with Donald Trump's federal immigration practices. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I got a text message that said MESA Public Schools

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't even read the rest of the message.

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<v Speaker 2>I grabbed my jacket, I grabbed my car keys, I

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<v Speaker 2>got in my car. I went to my kids school,

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<v Speaker 2>and when the principal saw me there, her face had

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<v Speaker 2>the exact like we didn't even have to speak. She

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<v Speaker 2>looked at me, I looked at her, and both of

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<v Speaker 2>our faces said, Yeah, they've come home to roost. This

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<v Speaker 2>is now something that we have to deal with with

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<v Speaker 2>our children today, not months from now, not further down

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<v Speaker 2>the mine, right now. And I had to sit and

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<v Speaker 2>come up with a plan for my five and seven

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<v Speaker 2>year old to not have to fall victims to a

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<v Speaker 2>law enforcement raid at their school, because those people are

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<v Speaker 2>so disgusting that not even our children are sacred. But

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<v Speaker 2>we knew that already when mass school shootings didn't lead

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<v Speaker 2>to any type of actual gun reform. We knew that

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<v Speaker 2>already when even white kids getting shot up at school

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<v Speaker 2>didn't lead to even a serious conversation about gun reform.

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<v Speaker 2>We knew that already, so make the targets of our

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<v Speaker 2>hate and our lack of care, and our lack of

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<v Speaker 2>empathy and our lack of humanity are lack of humanity.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, Brown people, and we absolutely don't care. So

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<v Speaker 2>to my black people who may have frowned when they

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<v Speaker 2>heard that my children are half Mexican, you think your

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<v Speaker 2>brown baby sitting next to my brown baby is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the one they decide not to mess with,

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<v Speaker 2>not to check for documentation, not to check to see

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<v Speaker 2>if mammy and daddy are Haitian or Cuban or Puerto

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<v Speaker 2>Rican or Mexican or Colombian or Brazilian or Nigerian or

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<v Speaker 2>from Ghana. You think that's where they'll stop. Because of course,

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<v Speaker 2>all racist people who would dare enforce this type of

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<v Speaker 2>law and raid an elementary school, of course they know

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<v Speaker 2>how to look at your kid and tell what country

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<v Speaker 2>their great grandparents are from. Right, every fear I had.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as he took his oath, he put into

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<v Speaker 2>action the president they elected. Because I won't even say you,

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<v Speaker 2>if you listen into this show, you likely didn't put

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<v Speaker 2>a target on my family's back. As soon as he

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<v Speaker 2>was back in office, and now maybe you understand why

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<v Speaker 2>you'll never see a flattering or even what you consider

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<v Speaker 2>to be a fair post about him on my page.

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<v Speaker 2>I consider it very fair because it's true. But you

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<v Speaker 2>think I should give them the benefit of the doubt,

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<v Speaker 2>and I never will.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think it makes sense if, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>if now you live in a world as of today

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<v Speaker 1>where ice agents can raid your children's schools and take

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<v Speaker 1>them and I mean we've seen this movie before. You

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<v Speaker 1>know they end up in cages somewhere near the border

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<v Speaker 1>because of.

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<v Speaker 2>Their displaced and unable to find their families, Like imagine

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<v Speaker 2>your five year old, Imagine your five year old daughter

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<v Speaker 2>in a cage.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say something here. There's because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the status of your children is different than the status

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<v Speaker 1>of my children. You know my children are half Mexican

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<v Speaker 1>as well. But there's there's a reality to Donald Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>promises and now his actions that affect people and affect

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<v Speaker 1>community in a way, especially in these border states where

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<v Speaker 1>we live, that people nationally may not consider because the

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<v Speaker 1>worry that you have doesn't just stop at your house,

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<v Speaker 1>It extends to your community. And then that worry overlaps

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<v Speaker 1>with the worry of other people in our collective community.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are people that we know that have been

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<v Speaker 1>on this show, that that have paid taxes, that have

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<v Speaker 1>they love this country, They've done they've done everything right.

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<v Speaker 1>And because you know, paperwork takes too long, or the

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<v Speaker 1>process is too expensive, or whatever the reasons are, not

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<v Speaker 1>everybody has the mobility and the access that you might think.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I've moved here when I was two

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<v Speaker 1>years old. I literally know no one in the country

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<v Speaker 1>I came from. This is my home, this is everything

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<v Speaker 1>that I've ever known. And you know, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>had to work too. You know, I've been afraid of

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<v Speaker 1>this my whole life. And now he's tripling down. Instead

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<v Speaker 1>of making a path way that's easier for me to

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<v Speaker 1>instead of streamlining the process so I can get everything

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<v Speaker 1>I need to not have to live in the margins

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<v Speaker 1>of society, He's going to send me to a place

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<v Speaker 1>I never I don't have any memory of, and I

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<v Speaker 1>lose my life here and all my friends and everything

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever known. And for a lot of people, the

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<v Speaker 1>humanity of that is lost on them because they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump said, these are all criminals, and he's only

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<v Speaker 1>going after the bad ones and so forth. Nope, there's

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<v Speaker 1>ICE agents now empowered. Not Donald Trump. Donald Trump's not

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<v Speaker 1>knocking on our doors. But there are people who get

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<v Speaker 1>to flex their racist muscles now.

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<v Speaker 2>There are people who are ICE agents just because they

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<v Speaker 2>get to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and if you don't live in a border state,

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<v Speaker 1>you might not know about that.

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<v Speaker 2>And the idea that only the undocumented or only the

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<v Speaker 2>illegals are only the bad ones. Like, tell me the

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<v Speaker 2>last time you saw a child with a shirt that

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<v Speaker 2>set illegal on it. Tell me the last time you

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<v Speaker 2>saw a child with their permanent resident card or their

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<v Speaker 2>birth certificate or they're whatever on a medallion around there.

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<v Speaker 2>They intentionally don't do that type of They don't go

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<v Speaker 2>to that level of scrutiny when they show up. Who

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<v Speaker 2>do I think doesn't belong here?

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<v Speaker 1>That's how it works. Remember SB ten seventy here in Arizona,

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<v Speaker 1>where they just could pull people over and stop people

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<v Speaker 1>because they looked like they might be illegal. And we

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<v Speaker 1>push back on that out those of us that are

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of of an activist tradition. But Arizona has

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<v Speaker 1>long been plagued by racist border patrol agents and policies

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<v Speaker 1>and The truth is is that even if none of

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<v Speaker 1>the bad stuff, the worst stuff that could happen, even

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<v Speaker 1>if none of it ever happens, you do understand now,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully a little bit more, why having a person like

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<v Speaker 1>that in the highest office of the land makes your

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<v Speaker 1>day to day life, if wildly uncomfortable, because you now

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<v Speaker 1>have to live under that threat because you were born

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<v Speaker 1>here versus there. You know, I was born in California

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<v Speaker 1>and Q was born in Michigan. But circumstances of our

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<v Speaker 1>birth do not determine the caliber of men that we are,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you were born here.

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<v Speaker 2>Though, to put an end to birthright citizenship something else

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<v Speaker 2>he said on day one, like this is how he

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<v Speaker 2>came out of the gate. Let me harm and remove

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<v Speaker 2>protections for as many people as possible that are not

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<v Speaker 2>just like me. And it's pretty disgusting, man, And this

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<v Speaker 2>is my reality. Now I have to stress about what

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<v Speaker 2>could happen every day as long as he's president.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I thank you for sharing that. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>that makes you a little bit more vulnerable, butppreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>telling the whole story.