1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: Hassle back five minutes away two good Monday night football 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: games tonight. At game seven tonight for the Seattle Mariners, 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: we'll take on the country of Canada to see if 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: we get a Dodgers Mariners Paul five Jmac. You know, 12 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: over the course of a week, I have a lot 13 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: of opinions, many miss the mark. And this is the 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: moment where I stand in front of America and am 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of a dart board. It's called Colin right, 16 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: Colin wrong. And here we go on a Monday where 17 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: Colin was right. 18 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 3: Well. 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: I played blind resume with bow Knicks Friday. Remember that 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: We all thought that was kind of fun Blind Resume, 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: and I said, with bow Knicks, he's really good. 22 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: He's a franchise quarterback. 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: He's just inconsistent, but he just became the first player 24 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: ever to have two rushing touchdowns and two passing touchdowns 25 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: in a quarter. The last five possessions for bow knicks 26 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: against the great defense touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. 27 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: Field goal. 28 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: He's really athletic under fifteen yards, really accurate, can struggle 29 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: with the deep ball is not there yet. But he 30 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: is a franchise quarterback. And that's all I've said. Where 31 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: Colin was raw, last year's Washington Commander's magic has evaporated. 32 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: I thought they'd be a playoff team for a decade. 33 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: They feel a little old and a little slow. They're 34 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: now three and four and here comes the Chiefs, the Seahawks, 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: and the Lions. Nothing is The defense's mid run game 36 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: is okay. Jaden Daniels is banged up. But there wasn't 37 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes yesterday where I didn't think Dak was in 38 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: control of that game. I missed on the Commanders. I 39 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: did not think it was a one off. I thought 40 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: it was a new era, and maybe it will be, 41 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: but it's not now. Where Colin was right, I've said 42 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: Sean McVay is the second best coach in Pro football. 43 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: The Rams fly in Saturday. It's a twenty four hour business. 44 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: Trip with no Puka nakua and it was one of 45 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: the more crisp, efficient, detailed game plans. Ever, how many 46 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: tight ends did they throw too? They had two rookies 47 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: catching touchdown passes and Stafford, as we've said, is the 48 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: best pure pocket guy in the league. I mean, you 49 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: were watching a well oiled organization against the Jags, and 50 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: after the Jags beat Kansas City, I said, this is 51 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: not sustainable. This is not a well run, well oiled operation. 52 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: I thought, Stafford, if he doesn't make the Hall of Fame, 53 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,119 Speaker 1: he's the greatest player. 54 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: In this league. 55 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: Not in the Hall of Fame because he is magic, 56 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: missing his star throwing the seventh round wide receivers in 57 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: London and they were jet laged and got in Saturday 58 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: for a Sunday game where Colin was wrong. I was 59 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: wrong on Shoe a Otani. I just said he was 60 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: better than Babe Ruth. I didn't say he's the best 61 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: team sport athlete ever. He won MVP of that series 62 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: for one great game, six innings, two hit ball, ten strikeouts. 63 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: Does he have the best split finger in the sport? 64 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: He's throwing a hundred. He had more hits Friday against 65 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: Milwaukee than he surrendered, and one of those balls that 66 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: he hit appears to have left the stadium. 67 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: Here it is right hander Patrick dials aed ol Tani 68 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: towering wall his right field. He's done it again. 69 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: Show hal Tani to the top of the pavilion in 70 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 4: right field four hundred and sixty nine feet, the longest 71 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 4: home run at Dodgers Stadium this year. 72 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: Freddie Freeman's reaction, what did I just watch? Where Colin 73 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: was right said about three weeks ago, the Indianapolis Cults 74 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: are for real. They should be undefeated. They had the 75 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: Rams beat running back, wide receiver, tight end. They have 76 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: Pro bowlers. O line has to be top three in 77 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: the league. They ran over the Chargers, and I know 78 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: LA's beat up on the offensive line, but I've been 79 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: defending Chris Ballard for years. I'm like, folks, this roster's good. 80 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: There are stars in every unit. This is a really, 81 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: really good team. They just needed a quarterback. They've got one, 82 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: and they hammered Harvon Herbert. 83 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: Yesterday where Colin was wraw. 84 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's all his fault, but cam Ward 85 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: feels a little collogy right now. He's doing a little 86 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: hero ball a lot of mistakes. He's trying to force 87 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: plays I listen. I don't know who to blame. It 88 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: feels a little like Caleb last year in Chicago. It's 89 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 1: not a very good staff, but he's been sacked thirty times. 90 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: Doesn't have a great feel for the pocket. More picks 91 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: than touchdowns, one in six record. I didn't think it 92 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: would look like this. I for a long time until 93 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: the last week before the season. I said they could 94 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 1: be a playoff team. Then I bailed on it. It's 95 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: ugly where Colin was right. Well, we predicted I did. 96 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: I said Notre Name in cold Weather would beat USC 97 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: by ten, and they would beat them soundly because they 98 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: would run all over USC. And that's exactly what they 99 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: did for the record. Jeremiah Love is going to be 100 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: a first round running back. He may not be Bjean Robinson, 101 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: but he's close. Nine and a half yards of carry. 102 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: The kid's great. USC had some weird play calling. They 103 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: were okay on offense, but this was a bad matchup 104 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: off that Michigan game, the Irish had three hundred and 105 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: six yards rushing and Lincoln Riley has not proven the 106 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: ability to be tough good running teams on the road. 107 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: He hasn't done it in four years at USC where 108 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: Colin was right, Tua is toast. I did not get 109 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: at any level the extension. I don't get how they 110 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: built the team. If you have Tua, you have to 111 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: have a good offensive line, you have to build it 112 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: around the running game, and he can throw on play action. 113 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: I thought he looked frightened yesterday. 114 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 3: That you know. 115 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: We all know he's not a cold weather quarterback. But 116 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: four times this year he's been under two hundred yards. 117 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: I'm not blaming it all on him, but I am 118 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: blaming the Dolphins on extending him when he had concussion concerns. 119 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: Quarterback need help, cam Ward and two. I haven't had 120 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: a lot of it, but it's got to look better 121 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: than what I've seen this year with Tua. 122 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 123 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: and noon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 124 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. Hey it's me Rob Parker. 125 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 5: Check out my weekly MLB podcast, Inside the Parker for 126 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 5: twenty two minutes of piping hot baseball talk, featuring the 127 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 5: biggest names of newsmakers in the sport. Whether you believe 128 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 5: in analytics, or the Ie Test. We've got all the 129 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 5: bases covered. New episodes drop every Thursday, so do your 130 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 5: sofa favor and listen to Inside the Parker with Rob 131 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 5: Parker on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. 132 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: Heard Hierarchy Tim. Now go the top ten NFL teams 133 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: according to College Number ten. I put them in this morning. 134 00:07:55,360 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: I bounced the Seahawks out because after those four giveaways, 135 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: I just can't trust Seattle. Seattle's eleven. I put New 136 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: England in at ten. They don't beat themselves. Four straight wins, 137 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: top ten offense, top five scoring defense. Mike Vrabel this 138 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: was our prediction, the team that would double their win total. 139 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: We said it before the season. We had him as 140 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: a playoff team. Their remaining schedule is the easiest in 141 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: the league, six straight games with one hundred plus passer rating. 142 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: I like Drake may I didn't think he would be 143 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: this good this quick. They feel like a one and 144 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: done playoff team that's winning a lot on energy and 145 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: focus and enthusiasm and youth. But I put them at 146 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,359 Speaker 1: ten and bounce Seattle out. 147 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: Number nine, the Niners. 148 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: I think Kyle Shanahan's in the running for coach of 149 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: the Year. No brock Perty Brandon I, Ricky Piersoll, George Kittle, 150 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: Fred Warner, Nick Bosa. But Robert Sala has been a 151 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: monster as a defensive coordinator. They have the number seven 152 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: scoring defense. They are very Christian McCaffrey dependent. Thirty touches 153 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: or thirty one touches. Don't love that, but they're kind 154 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: of trapped. Six of their next seven games against very 155 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: weak opponents. They should be favored in most of them. 156 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: But I think Mac Jones and brought thirty feels a 157 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: little bit like a wash to me. One's expensive ones 158 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: kind of free. But I think you got to put 159 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: him in the list. Nobody's been as resourceful as Kyle 160 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: Shanahan and the Niners. 161 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: I put him at nine, number eight Green Bay. 162 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: They keep leaving me wanting more, but they are undefeated 163 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: when scoring more than ten points this season. I just 164 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: feel like I want more, but they've been a little 165 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: banged up at wide receiver Josh Jacobs three straight games 166 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: with multiple touchdowns Jordan Love this year. 167 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: And nobody likes Jordan Love. 168 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: And he's completing sixty nine percent of his throws and 169 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: one hundred eight passer rating. You can't find anybody that 170 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: likes it. Their run defense is excellent. Micah is the 171 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: perfect close for a team that often leads in the fourth. 172 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: I have Green Bay eight. I think they will get better. 173 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: They're still really young. Number seven. I still like the 174 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: Bucks a lot. I mean, they were playing, you know, 175 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: living dangerously coming from behind, and that was a buzz saw. 176 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: They ran into last night for their five wins one 177 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: score games, but their defense multiple games with takeaways. I 178 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: just think they got playmakers, and again, like the Niners, 179 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: they've been incredibly resourceful. I've always thought Todd Bowles is 180 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: underrated because he didn't really have a profile. Probably the 181 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: best blitzing coach in the NFL Baker Igbuca. I think 182 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: they're going to be fine when they get cleaned up 183 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 1: and healthier, but I wouldn't drop him too far. 184 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 2: I have Tampa seven. Number six. I love Denver's roster. 185 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: I don't think their defense has been as good as 186 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: I thought, but they lead the NFL and sack differential. 187 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: They have the number one third down defense and the 188 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: number one red zone defense, and yet I feel like 189 00:10:54,880 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: they should be better. Bonicks when trailing this season a 190 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: very Mahomes like stat eleven touchdowns, no pick and a 191 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: one h two passer rating and obviously a great head coach. 192 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: Denver at six, number five Detroit. Detroit's run game jumps 193 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: off the TV set. They're five and one over their 194 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: last six games, and they got rocked by the best 195 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: team easily in the league, Kansas City. Their defense takes 196 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: the ball away, gets to the quarterback. What I like 197 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: about Detroit is they get leads and then they get sacks, 198 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: and that's the way to win in the postseason. They're 199 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: much better obviously at home. But I have Detroit Tampa 200 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: last night at five, number four, Colt type it into 201 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: the Colts for a month, they should have beaten the Rams. 202 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: Best outright record in the league at six and one. 203 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: They're only lost in the Rams, and they outplayed them. 204 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: Great offensive line playmakers at running back, tight end, wide receiver, 205 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: excellent head coach, most efficient offense in the NFL, most 206 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: for the most touchdowns. I mean Daniel Jones. I mean 207 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: it's like Dak We can say, well, he's not elite 208 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: while I'm watching, and it looks elite to me. They've 209 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: scored on sixty three percent of their drives, and I 210 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: think they're absolutely for real. I've always said my final 211 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: four teams are teams I think that can get to 212 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. 213 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: I have the Colts at four, number three. Rams. 214 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: It's not really just Stafford and McVeigh. That defense is suffocating. 215 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 3: Now. 216 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: It may not be suffocating if they faced them all 217 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: homes or you know again, it may not be suffocating 218 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: against the great quarterbacks. But men Trevor Lawrence, good luck. 219 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: They lead the NFL in big plays, no Puka, no problem, 220 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: number two scoring defense, number two in sacks. And remember 221 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: their defense is young. These guys, a lot of them 222 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: haven't even hit their prime. Rams at three, number two, 223 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: I don't even know if I liked Philadelphia. I honestly, 224 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: they can't run the ball anymore. They don't get to 225 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: the quarterback. But they have I mean, let's be honest. 226 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts wins a lot. Davonte Smith and AJ Brown 227 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: when they can't run, can take the top off. They're 228 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: a hard team to defend, and they're a hard team 229 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: to figure out. They don't get to the quarterback. They've 230 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: been out gained in every game. There's a French term 231 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: for beautiful yet ugly. I think whatever that term is 232 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: that's the Eagles. But I love their roster, and I 233 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: keep just saying they'll figure it out. But I have 234 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: them at two, number one, and I think they get 235 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: smoked if they played Kansas City. I said it a 236 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: month ago. This is as good as Kansas City's been. 237 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown, Juju Worthy Rise, Travis Kelcey. I mean, keep 238 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: your eye on Burschard Smith. The offensive line hasn't been 239 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: totally healthy. I think Mahomes is playing at an absurd level. 240 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: I think this is good. I'm serious here. I think 241 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: this team. I do wonder at the trade deadline if 242 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: they would go find like a situational pass rusher maybe. 243 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: And they're not a great run team. They are so 244 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: deep now at wide receiver. Here you go my top 245 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: ten Seattle eleven. I had him in last night when 246 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: I texted Kyle on our staff, and this morning, I'm like, no, 247 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm disgusted. That was awful. Take them out, Seahawks eleven bills. 248 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: Twelve one more. 249 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 6: Heard. 250 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: The Herd streams twenty four hours a day, seven days 251 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search Herd to listen 252 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: live or on demand whenever you like. 253 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: Let's take a deep breath talk about something much more positive, 254 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: a World Series, which I think is going to be 255 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: really competitive. 256 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 2: Everybody thinks the Dodgers. 257 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: Oh, the Toronto Vlad Springer starting pitching, home field advantage 258 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: Toronto is a handful. 259 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: Roberts, manager of. 260 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: The Dodgers, is joining us live the You know, it's interesting. 261 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: We all know in baseball. Good to see you again, Skip, 262 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: Great to see you, Davis. 263 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: Always thank you. 264 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: We all know in baseball that you know, momentum is 265 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: the next day's pitcher. But there are little bits of 266 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: wisdom you can take. Even though every postseason run is different. 267 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: Last year, you guys were up against it. I mean, 268 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: I can remember bullpen games against the Podres and I'm like, 269 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm not sure the Dodgers are getting out of this series. 270 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: You've been more dominant this year. Is there anything, though, Dave, 271 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: you can take from last year's playoff run little notes 272 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: or bits of wisdom and say, guys, remember that from 273 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: last year to this year. 274 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 7: You know what, I think what it comes down to, 275 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 7: and I think a lot of people talk about I 276 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 7: absolutely agree with your momentumus next day starting pitcher, and 277 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 7: certainly the Blue Jays have got some momentum. 278 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 3: I feel we've got momentum. 279 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 7: I think what I've taken away is the urgency piece 280 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 7: of it. How do you get to the urgency piece? 281 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 7: And I think the way I frame it to our 282 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 7: guys is we're in a street fight. And I think 283 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 7: that when you have that street fight mentality that lends 284 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 7: itself to urgency and every pitch, every play. 285 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 3: And you, you know. 286 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 7: Kind of take the momentum, embrace it and don't let 287 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 7: off the gas. And I think right now, if you 288 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 7: see our ball club play, we're playing with that street 289 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 7: fighterality versus that kind of season boxing mentality. 290 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's funny. The blake Snell Yoshi. So 291 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: I went on the air full disclosure. I said, I 292 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: love Dave Roberts. I would to let Snell go because 293 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: I just want to win the first game of the series. 294 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: I don't care Yoshi. I said, okay, we got one 295 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: in the bag. 296 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 2: I go to the pen. 297 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 3: On that. 298 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: I thought it was really cool for you to come 299 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: out and say some of this is gut feeling. 300 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: Guys. 301 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there on the steps, So let's talk a 302 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: little bit about that. Because baseball manager, it doesn't it 303 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: could be you or Aaron Boone, it could be anybody. 304 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 1: You guys get criticized for those moments. It's the seventh 305 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: that's when all of us think we should be manager. 306 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: What is that guy doing for you? You mentioned that 307 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: you were watching Snell or you watch Yosi. Do you 308 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: talk to him during a game or do you want 309 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,239 Speaker 1: to stay away from that? Is it kind of a 310 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: body language sense on I'm gonna let him go or 311 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull him. 312 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 7: It's it's knowing the player. It's knowing, it's knowing the player. 313 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 7: I mean, that's my job essentially. And I think the 314 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 7: thing is is that you know my job is to 315 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 7: know my players. I definitely don't get it right all 316 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 7: the time, but I feel like my process and kind 317 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 7: of how I know how to manage guys for the 318 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 7: short the long term is pretty sound. I think the 319 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 7: great thing Colin about baseball is because if you look 320 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 7: at you know, basketball is so quick. You can't coach 321 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 7: basketball in real time. You can't change defense as a 322 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 7: fan right football you could probably do it a little bit, 323 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 7: but baseball is something where every fan has that opportunity 324 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 7: to essentially manage. But I do feel like trusting my players, 325 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 7: knowing my players, knowing my coaches. I've got a sound process. 326 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 7: But I was right there with you, and then that 327 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 7: Blake Smell thing was fifty to fifty. And you know, 328 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 7: right now we're watching Roki and to put him in 329 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 7: the pen, that's a gut feeling that I feel like 330 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 7: I can trust him in big spots where that wasn't easy. 331 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 7: And right now, you know, I trust my players, I 332 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 7: love my players, and I think again, we're playing good baseball. 333 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,239 Speaker 1: It's interesting, I said before the playoffs, I said, in 334 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: my lifetime, I've seen teams with great bullpens win the 335 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: World Series. I think the Royals years ago had it, 336 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: and they didn't have necessarily great roster, but if they 337 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: led in the six, they won the game. I said, 338 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: I've never seen a team with a shaky bullpen win 339 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: a World Series. I said, I don't think the Dodgers can. 340 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: And then suddenly the bullpen gets solved. Roki moves to 341 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: the bullpen. Take me to the partner the season. It 342 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: could have been you and Andrew Friedman. It could have 343 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: been you and your pitching coaches and talking that you 344 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: just decided, listen, we got to make some alterations we've 345 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: got to pivot here. He's young, he's got great stuff. 346 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna We're gonna move him. Like, what were those 347 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: ongoing or was there an epiphany or a moment that 348 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: you just said, we can't win a pennant with this 349 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: current bullpen. How did that process work? 350 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 3: You know what? 351 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 7: I think that Okay, there's two parts of this. 352 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 3: I think with Roki. 353 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 7: If you look back at April, where you see there 354 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 7: were visuals photographs of him, you know, teary eyed in 355 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 7: the pen, you know, just distraught, disappointed, scared, word all 356 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 7: that stuff, right, and then so just trying to get 357 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 7: him back to health, trying to nurse his mindset. His 358 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 7: physical being back was number one. And then as he 359 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 7: kind of made his way back and trying to build 360 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 7: him appreciate the fact that we've already had enough starters, 361 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 7: so we weren't going to use him in that starter role. 362 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 7: And then going to him with me and Andrew and 363 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 7: the pitching guys and said, hey man, you have an 364 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 7: opportunity if you want to take on a bullpen roll 365 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 7: don't know what the role is going to look like, 366 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 7: this is an opportunity for you to impact twenty twenty 367 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 7: five and basically right your twenty twenty five season, he 368 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 7: was like, I'm in. 369 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 3: And then so we look at the calendar. 370 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 7: We had literally two opportunities in the regular season to 371 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 7: give him an opportunity to pitch out of the pen 372 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 7: for us. It showed really well. And then I think 373 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 7: in the Cincinnati Wildcard Series there is a spot that 374 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 7: I was like, you know what, we're either going to 375 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 7: sink or swim. We got to see what it looks like, 376 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 7: and I ran him out there. He performed, and then 377 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 7: from then it's just like the rest is history. He 378 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 7: started getting some momentum, and even in that Philly no, 379 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 7: I think it was the I don't know if there 380 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 7: was a Brewer outing where it didn't look good or 381 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 7: the Philly outing, and you know, I was determined to 382 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 7: run him back out there, not run from him, so 383 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 7: we can kind of keep that confidence. And so I 384 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 7: give the organization Realkie a looted credit for kind of 385 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 7: riding the ship. And then the other part of it 386 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 7: is like when you're looking at the postseason, you're trying 387 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 7: to get the best arms you can for the postseason, 388 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 7: So you know, using gloss now out of the pen, 389 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 7: using Emmett Sheen out of the pen. So it wasn't 390 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 7: really kind of what girl brought us to the dance 391 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 7: as far as the pen is who we're going to 392 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 7: go with. But at the end of the day, though Colin, 393 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 7: I've said it, we're going to go with our best arms. 394 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 7: And if you can get your best arms, and right now, 395 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 7: our best arms are the starting pitchers. If those guys 396 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 7: can take down the most outs, we're going to be 397 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 7: in a good spot. 398 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny about analytics. The term I always use 399 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: is analytics because I think in baseball, when the postseason comes, 400 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: the numbers are the numbers. But there are moments when 401 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: you're like I may used to have I may have 402 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: to use a starter in the pen, guys all hands 403 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: on deck. So do you find yourself with analytics? They're 404 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: still important. But like I say this about the NBA, 405 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: the referees stop calling fouls in the postseason, so the 406 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: analytics get all screwed up. They just let them wrestle 407 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you don't get to the 408 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: free throw line. In baseball, you manage differently in the postseason. 409 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you want Snell going, I mean to me, 410 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: I watch you, and I'm like, you wouldn't have let 411 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: Yoshi go? You would have gone to the pen if 412 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: that game's in June, would you not? 413 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 414 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 7: It's funny is that word analytics And I somehow got 415 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 7: tied to analytics. And I don't use my eyes or 416 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 7: my gut, but I think that I managed it. I 417 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 7: watched the game, and so I think in the postseason. 418 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 7: I'm not saying put analytics aside, but you have got 419 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 7: to bet on players. 420 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 3: You've got to bet on people, and you've. 421 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 7: Got to bet on heartbeat, and in that moment, I 422 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 7: do think that analytics. The place for analytics for me 423 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 7: is the long haul one sixty two. Yes, yeah, at 424 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 7: the end of the day, it plays out. But when 425 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 7: you're talking about one moment in time, is that picture 426 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 7: going to get that hitter out? Is that hitter going 427 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 7: to get a hit or take a bit at that 428 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 7: against that pitcher? Or are there nine guys that I'm 429 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 7: running out there do I feel has the best chance 430 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 7: to score runs against that particular pitcher? That is that 431 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 7: That's a coin flip, that's heads or tails, and that's. 432 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 3: What I bet on. You know, That's how I manage 433 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 3: the postseason. 434 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: Well, we've seen this also. I thought it was interesting 435 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: the Mariners had Julio Rodriguez and Cal Rawley at the 436 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: top of their order and sho hey o Tani obviously 437 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: leading off. And I've said this, I zone in on 438 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: baseball during the postseason. In the regular season, it's almost 439 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: like the radio sound of my summer. I have the 440 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: games on. I'm in and out of stuff. There does 441 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: it in my when I grew up? I mean, you 442 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: had Johnny Bench was bat and cleanup, Pudges bat and 443 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: cleanup right like you have your big gut Barry Bonds 444 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: three or four. Now, oh you got power guys hitting 445 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: toward the top of the lineup, which I would would 446 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: imagine is they get more at bats. But it is 447 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: interesting how I mean, that's my take is I want 448 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: to Tani up as much as I can get him. 449 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: Do you love that? Or is just that the reality 450 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: of the way the game is played? Because I kind 451 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: of love my big bombs, you know, I don't want 452 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: you know, I like him in the three four five spot. 453 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: How do you land on that? 454 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 7: I love the way and I think for me, it's 455 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 7: like anything where you want to continue to evolve and grow, 456 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 7: where when I was growing up as you were, same 457 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 7: time period, Showhead would be hitting you know, three or four. 458 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 7: But I think that the way that understated that you 459 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 7: want to get your best hitters as many at bats 460 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 7: as possible. That's how you win baseball games. And I 461 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 7: can tell you know, Bruce Bochie right now or Jim 462 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 7: Tracy right now, he should have hit me leadoff versus 463 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 7: Randy Johnson. You know, if I'm put to play center field, 464 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 7: I should have hit ninth and the those are things 465 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 7: that you've got to evolve. And Johnny bench facing Nolan Ryan. 466 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 7: Maybe Johnny could have hit fifth or six and maybe 467 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 7: you know, but that's the way the game has evolved. 468 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 7: And I do think that you got to kind of 469 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 7: appreciate that. And so I just don't want to be 470 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 7: beholden to one lineup. I think our guys have evolved. 471 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 7: But I do feel that, you know, having show at 472 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 7: the top Mookie two, I flipped flip Freddie and will 473 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,479 Speaker 7: Smith Tao and things like that, because it's kind of 474 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 7: you know, the little we can go deeper calling, you know, 475 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 7: where it's like you get a tough lefty to give 476 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 7: attacks to get to Freddy a third time. Those are 477 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 7: little nuances of setting the lineup, but I do think 478 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 7: that having your best hitters take the most of that's 479 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 7: makes sense. 480 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 481 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: And by the way, it does help that MOOKI and 482 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: show Hey also have wheels so they can move. That 483 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: helps as well. By the way, my favorite Dave Roberts moment. 484 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: You're a very humble guy, but this piece of audio 485 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: made me laugh. 486 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: Let's play it. 487 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 8: Oh, this is a uh one team one dream operation. 488 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 8: And I'll tell you, before this season started, they said 489 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 8: the Dodgers are ruining baseball. Let's get four more wins 490 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 8: and really ruin baseball. 491 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 2: Let's go. Come on, Dave, that's funny. I like that, Dave. 492 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 3: It's okay. 493 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: You know. 494 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 7: Here's the thing is that everyone trolls me, and so 495 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 7: I figured, you know what, I'm gonna flip it on 496 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 7: its head and troll some people that are trying to 497 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 7: create this crazy narrative that the Dodgers are ruining baseball. 498 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 7: I will tell you this, call it. And you know this, 499 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 7: Baseball viewership is at an all time high. Baseball players 500 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 7: are better than they've ever been. We are going to 501 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 7: have more eyeballs watching this World Series than ever because 502 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 7: of the country of Canada, US and Japan and beyond right. 503 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 7: So obviously the Dodgers are not ruining baseball. It is 504 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 7: in a great state. And I was just kind of 505 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 7: taking a dig at these crazy people that say that 506 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 7: what we do, and I think we do it really well. 507 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 3: We're running baseball. So that was my little dig. 508 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way I said this, Tommy Edmund was 509 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: hitting two sixty five for the Cardinals. You got him. 510 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: He becomes the NLCS MVP. Max Munsey was cut by 511 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: the A's. Now he leaves the Dodgers in all time 512 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: home runs. This idea that it's not just it's just money, 513 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: it's research, it's development, it's scouting, it's managing. I've always 514 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: said that the most. I said this earlier today. There's 515 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: an anti Californian sentiment in this country. Sometimes everybody picks 516 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: on California. The weather's great, the mountains, the beaches. The 517 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: truth is it's a very likable team. I believe the 518 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: reason Rokie will take a bullpen roll. I truly believe 519 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: this is because he knows there's no ego, and he 520 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: knows you could go to showhand and say. 521 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: I'm betting you third to night. 522 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: I'm bet I think you've created I've said this the 523 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: Yankees or the Astros. 524 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 2: You can hate those guys. This is not a hateable team. 525 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: And I think to some degree, I think Roki says, yeah, 526 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: I'll do it. And part of it is that's the 527 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: culture that you've created, is it not? 528 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 7: It is called And that's the biggest compliment I can get. 529 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 7: Because we have great players, we have a great organization. 530 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 7: But I feel that in the long season, to be 531 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 7: really good every year, to have guys buy in is 532 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 7: what a lot of head coaches and managers talk about. 533 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 7: To get superstars to buy into whatever you ask of 534 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 7: them and to be selfless. That's that's the secret sauce. 535 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 7: And for me as a manager, that's something I'm really 536 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 7: proud of. So I appreciate you bringing that to life. 537 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: Finally, just one I'm only going to ask. It's not 538 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: a favor, but just consider if you've got an open base, 539 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: the game is tied, and George Springer's coming up, just 540 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: consider walking you. Just consider that you don't have to 541 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: pitch to him. I'm not pointing fingers at anybody, but 542 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: Toronto is really good. I mean, I know you've watched, 543 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: you've watched them. I think this matchup. You've got what 544 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: concerns you about the Jays. 545 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 7: You know what, they're really athletic. I think that you 546 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 7: mentioned Springer, who's a big game player. He's on a 547 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 7: heater right now, had a great, you know, last couple 548 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 7: of months. That guy right there, Vladimir scares the heck 549 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 7: out of me. And they're just a gritty group. They're 550 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 7: very similar to our club, and they're tough. I think 551 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 7: Ross Atkins, I think Marsha Power. They've done a great 552 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 7: job with this club. And you know, you Savage. We 553 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 7: don't know him, so there's some unfamiliarity there. But like 554 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 7: you said, it's going to be a great series. Joe 555 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 7: Davis I talked to the other day, said he's never 556 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 7: heard a louder stadium than he heard here at the 557 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 7: Rogers Center. 558 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: So it's going to be a lot of fun. It's 559 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 3: going to be great. 560 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 7: I think the city has been waiting a long time 561 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 7: for this, and you know, I'm looking forward to It's 562 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 7: gonna be. 563 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 3: A lot of fun. 564 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: Thanks for giving us fifteen minutes. Dave Roberts always so 565 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: great to our show, and I appreciate it. 566 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 6: Skip all right, thank you, appreciate you com be sure 567 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 6: to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays at noon 568 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 6: Easter nine am, Lacipik on Fox Sports Radio FS one 569 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 6: and the iHeartRadio app. 570 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: Here's our Blazing five. Let's blaze it up, Fire it up. 571 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 2: It's Collins Blazon Fox, Bears and Ravens. 572 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: My favorite pick, Ravens. Lamar is backed minus six. Lamar returns. 573 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: Ravens average thirty three a game and six and a 574 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: half yards per play in the four games this year 575 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,719 Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson, and it's a must win game total 576 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: urgency for the franchise. Lamar has eaten the NFC for 577 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: lunch twenty four and three in his career. Even better 578 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: at home, the Bears on the road defense isn't a 579 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: good Caleb Williams by the way, last three games, completion 580 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: percentage has dipped to fifty eight point seven percent, and 581 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: right now the Bears defense can make splash plays and takeaways, 582 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: but it's allowing six point two yards per. 583 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: Play against Lamar. 584 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's gonna eat favorite pick of the weekend, Ravens 585 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: minus six. They win twenty eight to twenty one, and 586 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: it won't feel that close. Browns hit Patriots another big favorite. 587 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: I like New England at home minus seven. Why because 588 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: four straight wins and they're averaging thirty a game during 589 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: those wins, and their defense is great against the run, 590 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: meaning Dylan Gabriel will have to pass to beat Drake 591 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: May and the Patriots in Brabel. I don't see it happening. 592 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: Cleveland's defense not as good on the road. In fact, 593 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: the Browns are zero and three on the road and 594 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: they have the twenty eight ranked rush offense. So Dylan 595 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: Gabriel is going to have to be really good to 596 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: keep up and beat Drake May, who has been outstanding 597 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: since Week two. I don't think it's happening. I like 598 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: the Patriots to win by ten, twenty eight to seventeen. 599 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: That's eleven. Dolphins at Felkons. I like the over forty 600 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: four and a half points. I've been hot on overs. 601 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: Falcons are averaging twenty six a game and Michael Pennix 602 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: at home has a one zero three passer rating. But 603 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: they also have a terrible red zone defense. If Miami threatens, 604 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: Miami should do well and eat in the red zone. 605 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 2: But I like. 606 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: Atlanta at home to score points. Jamak talked about this 607 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: fast track. They're very good. The Dolphins opponents have combined. 608 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: Dolphins and their opponents have combined for forty five plus 609 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: points in five of the last six games. On the 610 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: over under here is forty five and a half. Their 611 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: defense allows big, big plays in Atlanta at home delivers 612 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: big plays. The Dolphins defense not good. Atlanta's offense at 613 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: home very good. Take the over forty four and a 614 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: half points. Twenty eight, twenty one thirty twenty four. My 615 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: bad of Falcons win forty nine ers at Texans. 616 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: This is a late add. 617 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: There are concerns about the Texans health at wide receiver, 618 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: but this offense for the Texans, it's the number three 619 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,239 Speaker 1: scoring offense since Week four, and their defense has been 620 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: great all season. Sam Darnold and Seattle at home last 621 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: week really struggled with this defense. So their defense is 622 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: especially good at clamping down on running backs and their 623 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: receiving yards. And the Niners right now are living off 624 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: McCaffrey running and McCaffrey receiving. And the Niners are three 625 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: and seven after a win the last two seasons. So 626 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: the Texans defense is great. The Niners are still beat up. 627 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: I think it's a Choppie game. I'm gonna take the 628 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: Texans twenty seven to twenty three. Cowboys and Broncos. Finally, 629 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: Denver minus three at home, I like it take the 630 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: Broncos three and zero at home. 631 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 2: Won eight straight home. 632 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: Games dating back to last year, and seven of those 633 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 1: eight have been by eight plus points. Bo Nicks won 634 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: eight straight games at home. He's a better home quarterback. 635 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: The Cowboys. Listen, they beat the Jets, the Giants and 636 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: the Commanders, and Jayden Daniels wasn't healthy. They've been one 637 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,479 Speaker 1: in three on the road. They're not a great road team. 638 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 1: And they have an atrocious third down defense that will 639 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: keep the ball away from Dak And they have an 640 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: atrocious big play defense, So the Broncos are gonna win 641 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: time of possession. The Broncos, who really need to hit 642 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: on big plays, have finally found a defense that surrenders 643 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 1: big plays. So I like Denver to win, and I 644 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 1: like Denver to cover the spread. 645 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 2: Twenty eight twenty four Broncos win. 646 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: So in a review, I like favorites this week, I 647 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: gener don't love them favorite bet Ravens minus six at home, 648 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: Lamar Returns Patriots minus seven at home Cleveland Dylan Gabriel 649 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: will have to throw to win, and I don't see it. 650 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: Take the over Atlanta at home scores and the Dolphins 651 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,399 Speaker 1: defense is a mess. Take the over. I'm gonna take 652 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: the Texans at home minus one and a half. It's 653 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: my least favorite pick, but their defense is great and 654 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: the Niners have limitations offensively. And Denver at home to 655 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: win and cover. I think that's a fun game. I 656 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: think it's a great watch. But Denver, they are really 657 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: really seeking the big play, and this is the defense 658 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: that does allow the big play. The Cowboys couldn't say 659 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: the last time I took three favors. 660 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 2: Generally don't like doing that. It's a wonky week for numbers.